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Wouldn’t AO be on Jeopardy (baby)?

"I didn't mind a diminished role because we were winning so much and we're such a great team and had a chance to do something in the playoffs...I would have taken any role on this team to do that.

by Bald Pollack on Dec 31, 2009 6:56 AM EST reply actions  

Oooo! Ooh! Oooooowoooo!

Let's go Caps!

by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 31, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

At some point sort of late last night, Mike Green was leading The Globe and Mail’s poll (although it’s a significantly smaller sample size). Now, it’s Bouwmeester 27% and Green 24%.

by letsgocaps on Dec 31, 2009 7:01 AM EST reply actions  

He was leading TSN’s and NHL.com’s as well when I saw last. That was relatively early yesterday, though. So it may have changed, too.

by beta on Dec 31, 2009 8:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Happy New Year!

"In the depths of winter, I learned there was in me an invincible summer" ~Albert Camus

by Madelle on Dec 31, 2009 7:38 AM EST reply actions  

Happy New Year to all the Rink Rats! I’m flying to LA later today (given the weather and added security measures, that should be interesting) and will be at the game on Saturday, and hopefully tomorrow’s practice as well (3:15pm PST). Hoping the boys come back with a huge win on Sat. The captain-less Caps are 0-2 — enough respect for Clark, give Ovie the “C” already!

Everybody be safe and have fun with your New Year’s celebration!

by Caps_Chick on Dec 31, 2009 8:12 AM EST reply actions  

I recall the Capitals being undefeated with one Mr. Matt Bradley wearing the C.

My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.

by jordanDC on Dec 31, 2009 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d be fine with that!

by Caps_Chick on Dec 31, 2009 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Have fun here in LA. Let me know if you want any restaurant/bar recs.

by Ginga on Dec 31, 2009 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Captaincy #needsmoreBradley!
Speaking of the Professor, does anyone know if any new Red Line Mondays will air this season?

"My face is my mask."

by Jake Shapiro on Dec 31, 2009 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Will be at the game on Saturday

but will probably get a ticket out front before the game.

Obstreperously Avatarless

by Edanger6 on Dec 31, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Happy New Year!

Be safe.
Call a cab.
Don’t beat the cabbie up.

by letsgocaps on Dec 31, 2009 9:15 AM EST reply actions   3 recs

signed, Patrick Kane

by renhoak on Dec 31, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

aka “Twenty Cent”

Let's go Caps!

by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 31, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m curious to know how you guys feel about Nabokow being the #1 goalie for Team Russia. I’ve watched a few of the Sharks games this season and I’m not that impressed with him. The Caps offence wasn’t very good last night and they still managed to score 2 goals. Maybe he is not to blame for those but still. Meanwhile, Brodeur is getting like a shutout every week. I haven’t watched any of the Phoenix’s games yet but Bryzgalov is leading the league in shutouts and has a better save % and GAA than Brodeur. Should he be the #1 goalie for Team Russia?

Also, I liked Chimera with BMo and Knubble. Nicky definitely needs to stay with Ovi. Semin needs to pick it up. He’s been awful lately. I don’t like Laich at center. I wouldn’t mind seeing MP reunited with Fehr and Flash and Laich back with Steckel and Bradley. I feel that’s where he is headed anyway. I’m not sure where Gordon fits with the Caps anymore. Finally, I wonder if Erskine and SMo have completely lost their focus because they know their days with the Caps are numbered. If that’s the case, I going to be holding my breath everytime they are on the ice from now on.

Lobbies: Green, Carlson

by CapsFan2020 on Dec 31, 2009 9:24 AM EST reply actions  

I think the Russians tend to go by seniority a lot in these situations, so Nabokov has to play his way out of the crease, I guess.

Can’t agree enough about Laich/Gordon/Perreault.

My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.

by jordanDC on Dec 31, 2009 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

At this point the Russians can’t go wrong going with either Nabby or Bryz. Both are playing outstanding. I give the Russians the edge in goaltending in the Olympics. They have the number 4,5, &6 guys in NHL save percentage wise right now. Their problem is that the team in front of them won’t be as good defensively as Team Canada.

A man gotta have a code

by Carl Putnam on Dec 31, 2009 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Sharks playing againts Phoenix tonight. I’m watching that one for the goaltending matchup. Also, the Devils playing againts Chicago should be a good one too. Wow, I just looked at the rest of the Caps’ schedule this year and we don’t play Chicago at all, what a shame.

Lobbies: Green, Carlson

by CapsFan2020 on Dec 31, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Ah, Caps don’t have any more games this year (2009), but they do play @Chicago March 14, 2010.

by renhoak on Dec 31, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

That old gag.

My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.

by jordanDC on Dec 31, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Ok, I see that. I missed it the first time. Thanks.

Lobbies: Green, Carlson

by CapsFan2020 on Dec 31, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

If I didn’t already have other plans I’d be at that game tonight. Should be a great one if its anything like Monday’s tilt between the two teams.

A man gotta have a code

by Carl Putnam on Dec 31, 2009 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Nabokov had some big saves last night when the Caps looked like they might want to crawl back into the game, notably on Semin.

And you should always hold your breath when SMo and Erskine are on the ice.

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Shark Sandwich. S—t Sandwich.

That sums up the Caps game last night. Time to move on to LA!

by Ed F - WNST on Dec 31, 2009 9:27 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

Heh. Say that to David St. Hubbins or Derek Smalls….

Let's go Caps!

by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 31, 2009 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

It looks like AO is doing everything he can to get Mike Green on Canada’s Olympic team. Last night he goes after Boyle and Saturday he’ll probably take some runs at Doughty.

by b.orr4 on Dec 31, 2009 9:36 AM EST reply actions  

Now that’s friendship.

by DrinkingPartner on Dec 31, 2009 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Until they get to Vancouver…

Then he takes runs at Green…

Ted Leonsis Used to Recommend: http://capsnut.blogspot.com/

Everybody Wang Chung......

Please load brain before shooting off mouth.™

by Caps Nut on Dec 31, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you kidding?

Nieds, Pronger, Boyle, etc. are all way up higher on the totem pole before Green.

He’ll leave Green for the bitter end.

by DrinkingPartner on Dec 31, 2009 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, the elipses (that’s the three periods, ….) denote sarcasm because even if Green should find his way onto the Olympic team, I seriously doubt that the coaches would skate Green against A.O.

Ted Leonsis Used to Recommend: http://capsnut.blogspot.com/

Everybody Wang Chung......

Please load brain before shooting off mouth.™

by Caps Nut on Dec 31, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I was hoping my comment was snarky enough to convey it on its own, but I guess not.

And I don’t see why not. Green’s got the most experience playing against AO of anyone on Team Canada.

by DrinkingPartner on Dec 31, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, I’m very used to my written comments not conveying the message I hopeed…

Yes, Green does have a lot of experience playing against A.O. but that is practice time, not international stage or even NHL stage time. There’s a bit of a difference there.

And as a guy who likes Green, he’s not the type of player that gives A.O. fits. But Green is the type of player A.O. likes to step up on and rattle behind the cage. It would be disasterous for Canada to use Green against A.O. IMHO.

Ted Leonsis Used to Recommend: http://capsnut.blogspot.com/

Everybody Wang Chung......

Please load brain before shooting off mouth.™

by Caps Nut on Dec 31, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

The difference between seeing AO practice his moves and watching him undress players in games is slim-to-none. He’s an invaluable AO resource that CAN ignored.

by DrinkingPartner on Dec 31, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Whatever….

Simple fact of the matter is, there are different speeds players use. Therre’s a reason why a guy can look like a world beater in the pre-season but completely lost once the games start to count. There’s a reason why they call it “playoff intensity.”

Hades, I remember various clowns insisting that Nick Backstrom would be an NHL bust based on his performance in the one developmental camp he attended.

There’s also a difference between sitting on the bench or standing 20 feet away watching a guy do something and having that same guy come at you and do it to you.

Finally there’s the miles of videotape on A.O. that exists.

And the bottom line is that we really won’t know whether or not Canada made a mistake with their roster until the Gold Medal is handed out on February 28th. And if Canada doesn’t win the Gold Medal that day (or worse isn’t even playing for it) the debate with rage without conculsion for ages.

But Green as a valuable resource on A.O.? Nope, not buying that one.

Ted Leonsis Used to Recommend: http://capsnut.blogspot.com/

Everybody Wang Chung......

Please load brain before shooting off mouth.™

by Caps Nut on Dec 31, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Here’s to starting the new year off right!

Cheers, everyone!

by DrinkingPartner on Dec 31, 2009 9:36 AM EST reply actions  

Here are some fun Semin stats for you (from me on Twitter):

  • Alex Semin is in the midst of his 2nd 1-goal-in-8-games stretch of 2009-10. It’s also how he ended the playoffs last yr.
  • In other words, in the Caps’ last 48 games (incl. playoffs), Semin has been in a 1-goal-in-8-games stretch in 24 games and missed another 9.
  • Semin has only scored a goal in nine of the Caps’ last 48 games (including playoffs) and 6 of the last 36. Awesome.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 10:09 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

You on twitter is a major downer.

Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.

Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.

Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.

by Whiter Mage on Dec 31, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

You on twitter Reality is a major downer.

Fixed that for you.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Александр Инконсистент Семин =/

Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.

Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.

Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.

by Whiter Mage on Dec 31, 2009 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I knew when I saw him whiff on his very first attempt of the game last night that it was going to be a bad night.

by DrinkingPartner on Dec 31, 2009 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

He ended with a +1 at least? That’s positive, right? Right?

My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.

by jordanDC on Dec 31, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m sorry, Semin played last night? I must have missed that.

by b.orr4 on Dec 31, 2009 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I knew he was going to shrivel up and disappear after the shift in which Murray dropped him three different times within the span of about 20 seconds.

My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.

by jordanDC on Dec 31, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Which I remember to be bullshit, as 2 of the 3 were interference from behind.

by DrinkingPartner on Dec 31, 2009 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Most definitely. Shit like that goes uncalled and you get it in your head that you’re not going to get a break in the game.

My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.

by jordanDC on Dec 31, 2009 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Which is also bullshit, as the Caps wasted all of their PPs :-). That was just a poor game.

by DrinkingPartner on Dec 31, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Letting it get in your head is bullshit. Now, obviously everyone knows about the vast difference between our Russian stars, but they both got the same treatment from Doug Murray, and I can’t help but think that one handled it better than the other.

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

No question.

My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.

by jordanDC on Dec 31, 2009 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, he did draw a penalty...

…By taking a stick to the nose and acting like he’d been shot in the process. Yeah it hurts to get a stick to the schnozz, but just suck it up and get to the bench.

I probably would be less critical of his performance, but he returned to the game about 3 minutes later…

Let's go Caps!

by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 31, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Less, he was out for that PP.

by DrinkingPartner on Dec 31, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

He was back for the next PP when Steckel drew a penalty…

Let's go Caps!

by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 31, 2009 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, was that the 2-in-a-row part?

by DrinkingPartner on Dec 31, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Sort of. The first penalties ended, and then the Caps got another one almost right away after that.

Let's go Caps!

by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 31, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure I’m going to bookmark this and pull it out the next time someone tells me Semin isn’t inconsistent.

by David Getz on Dec 31, 2009 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Inconsistant is Semin’s middle name.

Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.

Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.

Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.

by Whiter Mage on Dec 31, 2009 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s the nail in the coffin. I knew he was inconsistent, but had no clue it was that bad.

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Hater. I’m surprised nobody’s mom smaked you with a porcupine for posting all this hateful hate.
In a related story, happy new year to rats and rabbits, all. This place truly adds value to my Caps fandom, and I am grateful for it.

by redlineblue on Dec 31, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

  • Matt Bradley has scored at least one goal in more games since Oct. 8 than Alex Semin has.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Bad comparison because Brads is a scoring dynamo. Can’t compare others to him and all his greatness. Just not fair.

A man gotta have a code

by Carl Putnam on Dec 31, 2009 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

#needsmoreBradley

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Dec 31, 2009 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

JP, you can choose your stats to support any statement you happen to WANT to make about a player. It’s clear where your bias lies. I can do that, too, as well as mention other things. It would add to credibility if a balanced view is presented. But, since you have just presented the negatives, I don’t need to do that now.

In this season so far, Semin is 3rd behind Ovi & Backs in P/GP, 3rd behind Ovi & Flash in G/GP.

Last night he was one of only 2 players with a plus. He drew a penalty, blocked a shot, and had 3 shots on goal, as did Ovi & Knuble; Backs had 4.

Giveaways/takeaways? I did not count them last night, but clearly not a stellar night for anyone in that regard. But, just to note because it’s not mentioned much, I saw Ovi make several bad passes and giveaways. He frequently loses the puck after crossing the blue line. We’re frequently yelling at him in our house for that.

BB clearly was not happy with the game; none of us was. However, he did mention something that also is missed: Semin may not have had a goal or assist, but he sets up Ovi/Backs. Also, a goal off of a face-off only results in a primary assist, but says nothing about the role played by other players in properly running the play to allow the goal to happen.

I agree that Semin seems to be in a scoring slump, but that does not mean he is not making things happen for other people or contributing in other ways. Yes, part of his package is that we expect him to score, a lot; he should. But, he does get singled out more than any other player when not meeting our expectations. It’s incumbent upon a Caps blog moderator to present the complete picture, not just pick the stats that conveniently support your personal bias. Thanks.

by Seminrocks on Dec 31, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

i’m a Jizz supporter down to my very core, but he has not been playing up to snuff lately, and that can be seen both in his numbers and in his play. If you’re 3rd in G/P on the team, but you’re in the middle of your second 1G in 8GP stretch, that means you’re scoring in bunches, and are, in fact, not very consistent, except in your inconsistency.

I love him, but he’s way inconsistent.

by DrinkingPartner on Dec 31, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Semin is definitely due for one of his sporadic excellent games. I hope is against LA on Saturday.

Lobbies: Green, Carlson

by CapsFan2020 on Dec 31, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey, maybe we’ll get to hear from CarlosLA from the Kings game with some unique on-the-scene observations on Semin’s performance.

I don’t think this season is normal Semin terrain, I am betting he will be an improved hockey player when he’s ready to snap out of this visible melancholia.

by Icebat on Dec 31, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Maybe making his best buddy Captain will improve his mood?

Lobbies: Green, Carlson

by CapsFan2020 on Dec 31, 2009 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

He just got a friggin’ one year $6 million extension and was all smiles about it afterwards. What melencholia?

by renhoak on Dec 31, 2009 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t get hi-def so I can’t see him smiling about his $6 million extension during games…

by Icebat on Dec 31, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s incumbent upon a Caps blog moderator to present the complete picture, not just pick the stats that conveniently support your personal bias. Thanks.

As somebody who runs their own blog, I’ll step up on the soapbox here and say that unless a blog has their own personal biases and style, it is very hard to distinguish yourself from the rest of the crowd. You have to distinguish yourself with your style and biases, or else you become another voice in the crowd and hardly anybody will read what you write.

If you asked me, the trick is in finding a happy medium where you don’t go overboard one way or another unless of course the whole idea behind the blog is to go overboard (for instance, a blog devoted to the worshipping or trashing of a certain player, team, coach, town).

But as many in the blogging community have stated, they are not journalists so they shouldn’t be held to the same standards of accuracy and neutrality as journalists are.

Ted Leonsis Used to Recommend: http://capsnut.blogspot.com/

Everybody Wang Chung......

Please load brain before shooting off mouth.™

by Caps Nut on Dec 31, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

JP, you can choose your stats to support any statement you happen to WANT to make about a player.

Maybe (though I don’t fully agree). But it’s up to the reader to evaluate and value the strength of those stats. I think these are pretty significant. You tell me why they’re not. That’s how adults have discussions, not by slinging around defamatory and baseless claims. Questioning my credibility and my ability to present both sides is a joke.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 11:37 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Then present both sides or the joke is on you.

by Seminrocks on Dec 31, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

But he doesn’t have to. He wrote a blog with a very specific goal in mind, and achieved that goal. The comments are where you take issue and dispute it. He doesn’t have to do it for you.

by DrinkingPartner on Dec 31, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree if you have an alternate view, stats, even referencing specific plays other than stats, that’s what makes for good discussion.

I like shorter names, can I just call you ‘balls’ for short? :)

by Icebat on Dec 31, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

seminrocks.blogspot.com is probably available.

It only takes a few minutes to set up.

ALEX, FЯEE

by EmilyB on Dec 31, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

or, to Icebat’s desire for brevity, perhaps jballs.blogspot.com?

by renhoak on Dec 31, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s so cute, you must be joining the OBS line.

by Seminrocks on Dec 31, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh … not following you there. I’m not a hockey player, so “joining” the Ovechkin-Backstrom-Semin line is not an option. I am a big fan of that line, though.

by renhoak on Dec 31, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Both sides have been presented on this blog ad nauseum. Check the archives and you’ll find plenty of discussions about Semin, including one round table discussion that most certainly was represented by Semin-supporters.

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone who has conducted an experiment, performed a statistical analysis, shoot, even consulted a map to plan a trip knows that results are often a product of assumptions and the tools you use. I don’t think many people select a suite of tools or statistics to bias a result. Sometimes (and I find it happens often), it is the product of using the tools you have readily at hand coupled with the need (or want) to get a result quickly (there are a lot of us who publish daily, and that doesn’t argue in favor of much in terms of multivariate statistical analysis). That argues for using the simplest tools (or the ones most readily available). It isn’t a matter of bias, either in intent or result, merely a product of selection.

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Dec 31, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

More like selection bias. Buuuuuuuuuurned.

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s incumbent upon a Caps blog moderator to present the complete picture, not just pick the stats that conveniently support your personal bias. Thanks.

Bull. He has an opinion, and he’s entitled to express it on his blog. You can disagree with it, and might even be able to present a stronger argument on your side. But he has no “responsibility” to withhold his opinion, especially when he supports it with facts.

by Ginga on Dec 31, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Is this actually HIS personal blog? I was under the impression, perhaps mistaken, that it’s part of the SB Nation blogs.

by Seminrocks on Dec 31, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, his blog. He blogged at blogspot for years, then was invited to migrate onto the SBNation portal.

ALEX, FЯEE

by EmilyB on Dec 31, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

JP, you can choose your stats to support any statement you happen to WANT to make about a player. It’s clear where your bias lies. I can do that, too, as well as mention other things.

OK, bring it. JP has brought out some stats that show pretty convincingly that Semin is inconsistent. Bring us some stats that show that he is consistent.

The rest of the post cites P/GP and G/GP, which has nothing to do with consistency. And then the rest of the post was about last night’s game.

Put up or shut up. Prove to us that Semin is consistent on offense, or quit whining every time someone points out his inconsistency.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Dec 31, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions   4 recs

You’re a nice one, aren’t you? I did not say Semin is consistent; he is somewhat inconsistent. I did not even use that word. A number of players are inconsistent. My point is that in pointing out that negative, it would be fair to point out the positives, but that rarely happens here. And there are positives, more than negatives on balance. No one would ever guess that reading this blog on a regular basis.

Your “put up or shut up” is rude and disparaging, right JP? As is “quit whining.” So, if someone has a different opinion, it’s whining? I guess you think you win every argument you have, then.

by Seminrocks on Dec 31, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude, unless you, yourself, are Sasha Semin and are upset at what’s being said about you, your comment to JP was just as “rude and disparaging” as anything GoD said. If you’re going to start the game, don’t get upset when it’s thrown back.

And I’m pretty sure you’re not Sasha Semin.

(If you are, can I have an autograph?)

by DrinkingPartner on Dec 31, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I disagree, dude. I did not call him any names. I simply said credibility is increased; that’s not saying he does not have it, but it could be enhanced. I also do not think that saying someone has a personal bias is disparaging. I have a personal bias.

by Seminrocks on Dec 31, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

The insinuation that his credibility is questionable is what we all chaff at.

by DrinkingPartner on Dec 31, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Does JP need an enforcer? Whenever I see a one-sided presentation when I believe the person presenting it should also show the other side, I have questions. I don’t expect all of the posters to do that, but I guess I do (or did) expect the blog moderator(s) to.

I do not understand this to be JP’s personal blog. If it is JP, tell me and I will know better what to expect and realize the futility on a Caps blog to have another opinion, whether you think it’s backed up or not. It’s funny, instead of really trying to talk about Semin’s up- and downsides, all you do is throw disparaging characterizations at me. That is not martyrdom (I could say the same thing about your response). I simply find it puzzling that the things he’s doing right cannot be discussed in the same context as to what he’s doing wrong. And that’s it. Have to go herd kids now.

by Seminrocks on Dec 31, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s funny, instead of really trying to talk about Semin’s up- and downsides, all you do is throw disparaging characterizations at me.

This is what professionals call “projection.”

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

You literally have not addressed the statistics that J.P. originally posted; and you are one of the worst offenders here when it comes to throwing disparaging characterizations. This is hysterical.

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Calling out JP’s credibility is most certainly disparaging. Just because you didn’t call him names (no one called you names either, from what I’ve seen) doesn’t make it any less so. Sure, you may have been polite, but your characterization of JP was definitely not nice. It’s like saying to someone “no offense, but you are a giant, no good assbag”. Just saying no offense doesn’t make it not disparaging.

Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst

by Killer_Carlson on Dec 31, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

The comment totals on this page tell me he has no issue with credibility, or creating interesting Capitals discussions.

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

The comment totals on this page tell me that the discussion has veered away from the clips.

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Dec 31, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s what the clips posts are for! The clips are a starting point, not an end point.

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Wasn’t clear. Sure, we go off on tangents all the time. Based on what’s in the clips on any particular day, you wonder how there can be so many comments, and then see they devolve into comedic genius, or recipies, what have you. Not to be expected is when something turns to the heated “discussion” that’s occurring.

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Dec 31, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

The clips serve as an overflow OT thread, from what I understand. Just strap in and roll with it.

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

THAT’S what she said!

"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"

by fat_daddyo on Dec 31, 2009 4:44 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Seminrocks, you bore me. Predictable, reflexive defensiveness is no way way to go through life, son.

JP said Semin is inconsistent. He put up stats to support it.

You tore him a new one for pointing out said inconsistency. But now you admit that he’s right. So what’s the problem dude? If Semin is inconsistent, what’s wrong with saying he’s inconsistent? Are you against folks pointing out the truth? I don’t get it. What was wrong with pointing out something about a player that you acknowledge is true?

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Dec 31, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Offtopic…but great use of “son”.

by Yoshietree on Dec 31, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Dean Wormer agrees with you.

by mechanicsville on Dec 31, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

(Not sure seminrocks is of the gender you’re ascribing to him/her.)

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

the Rabbits don’t want him to be one of us.

Fun fact: A popular opinion can still be stupid.

by RedBirdie on Dec 31, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Couldn’t ruin the quote/paraphrase from Animal House

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Dec 31, 2009 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re a nice one, aren’t you?

He did coin “go eat a fucking porcupine.”

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

As to my alleged biases and credibility regarding your namesake, where were they here? Or here? Where’s the lack of balance here? And so on.

Look, you’re relatively new around here and I don’t expect you to have read everything I’ve ever written. But if you haven’t, don’t make ridiculous (and, more importantly, untrue) blanket statements that are nothing more than smears.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

And I believe that is what’s known as “JP for the win”…game over.

by Yoshietree on Dec 31, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Tap, tap, tap… this thing on? Reply button busted? Or should I take the lack of response to be an indication of the ongoing consumption of a porcupine?

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Nom nom nom … porcupine’s good eatin’!

ALEX, FЯEE

by EmilyB on Dec 31, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yep, right up there muskrat and ’possum…

Let's go Caps!

by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 31, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

just in case he runs out, I’ve got another ready

Fun fact: A popular opinion can still be stupid.

by RedBirdie on Dec 31, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Again, clearly not a fucking porcupine.

My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.

by jordanDC on Dec 31, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

and I told you, I’m not venturing into the world of porcu-porn!

Fun fact: A popular opinion can still be stupid.

by RedBirdie on Jan 1, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

You think I’m new here, but you do not know how long or how much I have read. I have read just about everything you have written. Yes, I have been somewhat surprised in some past articles that you seemed almost positive, yet there’s often a snipe. After reading so much of what’s written, the fact is that Semin does not get much margin for error. Period.

Some folks who post here would not give him an unqualified compliment even IF he scored 6 unassisted goals in a game and we won 6-0.

Criticism is fine when warranted and backed up by some facts. In my book and experience on the Hill and in lobbying is that you gain MORE credibility when you can show that you are able to also note positives/benefits without qualifying unwarrantedly.

There does seem to be an intolerance here for people who support someone, specifically Semin, instead there’s trashing someone and the people who have positive things to say about them. I call that a personal attack and I don’t see you telling those regulars who must be your buddies to can the personal attacks and namecalling.

by Seminrocks on Dec 31, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you even read the posts? I was ready to stick up for you above…until reading JPs comment…now, not so much.

by Yoshietree on Dec 31, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

There you are: intolerance for a different view and questioning of the presentation.

by Seminrocks on Dec 31, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

No…it’s not intolerance to a different view. It’s intolerance to you being unable to do anything but complain. You’ve brought absolutely nothing to the table other than “JP is biased” and “Semin is teh rox”. If you feel like Semin is being slighted or that the presented perception is incorrect, spend a little time in doing some research and presenting a counter-argument.

by Yoshietree on Dec 31, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

And just by chance….are you the self proclaimed captain of the god-awful section 400? Your tone and opinions are eerily close.

by Yoshietree on Dec 31, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

A guy making $6 million shouldn’t have much margin of error. That’s the point.

And stop the martyr routine. It’s as old as the generalizations, double-standards and lack of evidence to back up nearly every single assertion you’ve made.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

So it’s a martyr routine if I support someone? I don’t see you throwing that at people who support other players. Oh wait, those often are the people who like to only point out the negatives about Semin.

by Seminrocks on Dec 31, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

No. Stop with the straw-man, too (should’ve thrown that one in). It’s a martyr routine to play “woe is me” and taking valid criticism of a player you like as a personal affront.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Boring.

Someone presented a handful of stats that [keyword alert] prove Semin has not been terribly productive. What on earth compels you to take these [here comes another] facts personally? If the facts of 28’s performance aren’t to your liking, why not write to Semin about it instead of waving your bloody hairshirt around in here?
This place works in a certain, [last one, I swear] consistent, even rigorous way. Engage in it, accept it, or help yourself to a nice hot cup of Cled.
Cripes.

by redlineblue on Dec 31, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

This place works in a certain, [last one, I swear] consistent, even rigorous way. Engage in it, accept it, or help yourself to a nice hot cup of Cled.

This.

Either bring something to support your P.O.V. or don’t go away mad, just go away.

A man gotta have a code

by Carl Putnam on Dec 31, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Mötley Rëc’d

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

You are all about the old school rock today, sir.

Just remember, this place is like a rose – and we all know that every rose has its thorn.

Poison’d. (Shut up, I’m a girl.)

by Becca H on Dec 31, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

So were they, so it’s cool.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Oooh Oooh Can I be the thorn?

/raising hand as high as I can

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

You will always be the thorn in the flowerbed, F&B.

by Becca H on Dec 31, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Give a damn example!
I don’t see you throwing that at people who support other players. Oh wait, those often are the people who like to only point out the negatives about Semin.

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

on hawaii time and late to the party, but i’ve been thinking “give a damn example” after just about every sentence seminrocks has typed.

by Natty Bumppo on Dec 31, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Even on HI time you aren’t far behind me.

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Jschon?

"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"

by fat_daddyo on Dec 31, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

instead there’s trashing someone and the people who have positive things to say about them

OK, now you are going a bit to the biased end of the spectrum yourself. No one is “trashing” Semin. Plenty of us here like Sasha. We just don’t like his inconsistency. Heck I’m less concerned about his goal scoring than his tendency to overpass and take penalties in the offensive zone.

I don’t know of anyone in the Rink, bloggers or commenters, who don’t think highly of Semin’s talent. I’d argue he has the 2nd most dangerous shot in the league when he uses it. If he wasn’t so talented the frustration level would be slightly reduced, however it would still be there. Given his pay and cap hit you better believe I’ve got high expectations for him.

I might also add J.P. , along with myself, have been banging the drum to play Semin more on the PK for awhile now. It’s a big compliment if you want someone being on the ice a man down. If I was “trashing” a guy I don’t think I’d be requesting for him to be on the ice more in critical situations.

A man gotta have a code

by Carl Putnam on Dec 31, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I read that article and thought it was good. My initial post was about presenting a balanced picture of his game right now. I do not believe it was balanced. I also said he is in a slump and we expect more. I am biased, and I have said that. Others are biased against and have said as much. I think he’s worth it. Others do not. That’s a bias.

by Seminrocks on Dec 31, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Perhaps the finest response ever in the history of blogdom. And I do not say that lightly.

"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"

by fat_daddyo on Dec 31, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

…that was rather succint, wasn’t it?

by mechanicsville on Dec 31, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he’s worth it. Others do not. That’s a bias disagreement.

That may be the word you’re looking for.

Honestly, coming on here with 90% of your posts talking about bias, rather than tackling the arguments at hand in a rational way is pretty weak.

"I didn't mind a diminished role because we were winning so much and we're such a great team and had a chance to do something in the playoffs...I would have taken any role on this team to do that.

by Bald Pollack on Dec 31, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Further, where in my indisputable statement of facts was there any judgment made regarding Alex Semin’s value?

When facts are biased against your position, it’s time to re-evaluate your position, friend.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Most facts are liberal. Stephen Colbert has proven it.

"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"

by fat_daddyo on Dec 31, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I prefer to delve into the realm of truthiness, myself.

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Dec 31, 2009 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

As someone who has always supported John Erskine and Alex Semin, there’s ways to defend your argument that you seem to be neglecting to do.

Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.

Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.

Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.

by Whiter Mage on Dec 31, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

You mean by using stuff like “stats” and “anecdotal evidence”?

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure, lawyer-man.

Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.

Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.

Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.

by Whiter Mage on Dec 31, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

In the words of the great Steve Colbert:

“Facts? I’m not a fan of facts. See, facts can change, whereas my opinion – my opinion will never change.”

ALEX, FЯEE

by EmilyB on Dec 31, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

And what was the anecdotal evidence? Stats never tell the whole story, we all know that, and stats can be packaged, presented and used to support almost anything you want to say.

by Seminrocks on Dec 31, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

So do it! Package. Present. Use to support.

Show us some stinking analysis, dude! Add some value. Any value. Give us some reason to read your comments. Or, (and I’ll say it again), quit whining and get lost.

And no, I’m not a very nice person.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Dec 31, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions   4 recs

Aw, Gouldie, you’re being too hard on yourself.

I think you’re spiffing, actually. Anecdotally (sp?), you have stuck up for blog regulars when under unjustified fire. You’ve shared cooking tips (tried the cauliflower one last night, very nice). You crushed the snot out of the Penguin troll.

You’re aces, man.

"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"

by fat_daddyo on Dec 31, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Fact.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Aw shucks

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Dec 31, 2009 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Aye, you even made me feel welcome :)

"In the depths of winter, I learned there was in me an invincible summer" ~Albert Camus

by Madelle on Jan 1, 2010 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, and you said “hard on.” Heh.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah, you’re just grumpy from making the trek to SJ to see a miserable game.

by Ginga on Dec 31, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

So flipping do it!

Package a bunch of stats that prove Semin has been tearing it up these last 50 games, adding value all over the ice and grilling porcupines for all us alleged haters.

by redlineblue on Dec 31, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

It sounds like you’re asking for a positive piece on Semin. Like the one we see on Mike Green (who I don’t think needs to be on Team Canada as much as I like/root for him).

I guarantee if you write one as a FanPost and it makes any kind of sense it will get read/rec’d by people, possibly even be a recommended post.

We know Semin is very good, which is why we expect more from him.
And it’s not all about stats I agree:

I believe it was Vancouver, the game announcers there expressed biting displeasure that Semin spoke little publicly and used an interpreter, saying (paraphrased_:

“That’s disappointing, I guarantee you he understands and speaks a lot more English than that.”
“That’s his right, his option to do so”

by Icebat on Dec 31, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

At least two of the writers on this site have written glowingly of Semin in the recent past, btw.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup. I glow with love for Semin.

…but even I can admit his inconsistencies.

by Becca H on Dec 31, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

admit his inconsistencies

Always with the hate.

"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"

by fat_daddyo on Dec 31, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m a hater, not a lover. Duh.

by Becca H on Dec 31, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, right.

I’ve heard you’ve got outstanding judgemental bitch cred, so I guess it all follows.

"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"

by fat_daddyo on Dec 31, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I need to put that on a nametag for Saturday’s meetup. Or just get a badge to wear that says “judgmental bitch”.

by Becca H on Dec 31, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t forget you’re the “Grinchiest of Grinches” too. That was my personal favorite.

by terpgrrl on Dec 31, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, right! Crap. I’m going to need to just make a damn t-shirt – or start introducing myself as follows:

“I’m Becca, the hateful, judgementally bitchy, grinchiest of the grinches. Nice to meet you.”

…and watch as the other person runs away in fear.

by Becca H on Dec 31, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe if we put the bad first and then the good, we’ll be tempering our bad statements with some annoying positive slant at the end.

“I must admit Semin has inconsistencies. Yet I glow with love for him”

by Icebat on Dec 31, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

The guy’s lightning in a cracked crystal bottle, with flavored vodka sloshing around the bottom. He drives me NUTS. I’m a fan.

by redlineblue on Dec 31, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Like so?

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I…think that might be the best description of young Mr. Semin ever.

And honestly, I think those of us who get driven completely nuts by him usually are fans – because we know what he’s capable of when he’s on. The people who turn a blind eye to it now as “same old, same old” are more likely the people who are just not fans of his. That’s okay, too.

by Becca H on Dec 31, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

So Semin is like a really really hot chick that is bat shit crazy. I get it now.

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

The question for future contract negotiations is whether or not he is above the Mendoza Line.

Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst

by Killer_Carlson on Dec 31, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

He is dangerously close to the Shelly Gillespie zone.

"Inglewood Jack! Inglewood Jack!" - Coach Jules

by Alz Well That Ends Well on Dec 31, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

But can I vote that we remove the “trending Sasha” from the Weekly Ups and Downs?
That’s been on my mind to some small degree.

The guy’s got a crappy nickname, his game’s a little off, and he has his own stat that doesn’t indicate improvement or backsliding

by Icebat on Dec 31, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I used it, what, once for comedic effect? I’ve been judicious on its use, no? But duly noted.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, it did linger a bit echoing through the Japersphere, not gaining amplification like the nickname though

Maybe the guy needs a bone (besides a new contract). Typically us heartless fans need something to cheer about first.

My opinion (probably wrong like everybody else’s) stands that he seems melancholy for whatever reason.

by Icebat on Dec 31, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe he needs to find true love. Or a decent bowl of borscht.

Note: Neither of those things should be difficult to find for someone making $5 million a year.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey now, you can’t buy love JP ;)

If he wants to settle down with a local girl however……

(as an semi-aside, agree on the “best description of young semin” above).

by Vinn on Dec 31, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

or a local boy…Not that there is anything wrong with that.

Lobbies: Green, Carlson

by CapsFan2020 on Dec 31, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Money can’t buy you love.

But it can buy you someone who will enthusiastically simulate the condition of being in love.

"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"

by fat_daddyo on Dec 31, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

True. And money sure as hell can rent love.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

My father’s best advice to me in my life:

“If it flies, floats, or f**ks, you’re better of renting it.”

"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"

by fat_daddyo on Dec 31, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Your dad should be on Twitter.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Thankfully (for the rest of us), he regards the internet with great suspicion.

"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"

by fat_daddyo on Dec 31, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

That is fricking hilarious.

This one was weirdly reminiscent of the old man:

“I’m having a Makers Mark, you want one? What? 7up? I ain’t mixing fucking makers with 7up. Might as well put a lil’ fucking umbrella in it”

One of my own father’s gems:

“Take your coffee black, steaks rare, whiskey neat and p**sy by the hour, and you won’t go too far wrong.”

‘Course, he’d had a few pops when he uncorked that one, so I didn’t pay it too much attention.

"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"

by fat_daddyo on Dec 31, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice. I love:

“Everybody’s broke, so here’s the rule for Christmas this year; if you still shit your pants, you get a present. Otherwise tough shit.”

and

“That woman was sexy…Out of your league? Son. Let women figure out why they won’t screw you, don’t do it for them.”

and

“The dog is not bored, it’s a fucking dog. It’s not like he’s waiting for me to give him a fucking rubix cube. He’s a god damned dog.”

I could go on all day.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Gems, all of them.

I could have been equipment manager, but nooooo!

by boutros23 on Dec 31, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

“Fine, let’s take a vote. Who wants fish for dinner?…Yeah, democracy ain’t so fun when it fucks you, huh?

“It’s never the right time to have kids, but it’s always the right time for screwing. God’s not a dumbshit. He knows how it works.”

Jeez, it’s frigging perfect.

"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"

by fat_daddyo on Dec 31, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

teary good laughter

by renhoak on Dec 31, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone else trying to Z scroll through these?

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Between keeping track of Z here, J/K for Google Reader, and F6 for my actual work, my keyboard thinks I have split personalities.

Of course, most of them don’t care about the keyboard’s opinion.

"Inglewood Jack! Inglewood Jack!" - Coach Jules

by Alz Well That Ends Well on Dec 31, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

And if Semin didn’t make Team Russia you can guarantee people here would be in even more of an outrage than Green’s snub. Semin is clearly more deserving of an Olympic spot (because of the relative competition). Even I, as the founder of the 85 Cent club, would freak out if he wasn’t on Team RUS.

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel like plenty of people would be somwehat ok, pointing to his lower productivity of late (relative to Green and relative to the competition of team RUS)
Semin has done things that may lose his spot, while Green has only done things to earn a spot.

Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .

by kingzman264 on Dec 31, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Team Canada has a D corps that is all NHL All-Star caliber. Team Russia has KHL players on their roster. Leaving Semin off Team Russia is infinitely more egregious than leaving Green off of Team Canada.

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess so, I have never been so sure as to how much better the top of the KHL is relative to theNHL

Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .

by kingzman264 on Dec 31, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

KHL is just not as good as the NHL. It’s not really that close. There are guys in the KHL that can play in the NHL, but Semin would immediately be hands down the best player in the KHL. Everything I’ve read makes me believe that the KHL is somewhere in the same ballpark as the AHL. Kevin Dallman won the freaking best-D award in the KHL.

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly, I had to look up Kevin Dallman. If that man won best-D then. . .yeah KHL a bit below AHL.

Learn something new bout hockey everyday. . .

Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .

by kingzman264 on Dec 31, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Schultz for Norrischt!

by redlineblue on Dec 31, 2009 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I would have to disagree with you there, when it comes to offensive talent, but let’s not start that again :P

"In the depths of winter, I learned there was in me an invincible summer" ~Albert Camus

by Madelle on Jan 1, 2010 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Offensive output is related to defensive opposition. Guys that light it up in a league that has Kevin Dallman as the best D are inherently less impressive than the guys that do it in the NHL. The guys that are studs in the KHL would be 3/4 liners in the NHL. Compared to AO/Semin/Datsyuk/Malkin/Kovalchuk, they are hacks.

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by Rob Parker on Jan 1, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, I have been somewhat surprised in some past articles that you seemed almost positive

I don’t think that’s fair. Consider:

But as to the question of whether Alex Semin is capable of playing great, even stellar defense, there really isn’t much of a question at all – he is… and he does.
following the acquisition of Sergei Fedorov and was arguably the Caps best forward in the playoffs with three goals, five assists, and a plus-two rating while playing probably the most inspired hockey of his career.

That’s not really “almost positive”. That’s just plain positive.

There does seem to be an intolerance here for people who support someone, specifically Semin

Nope, the intolerance is for accusations without a ton of evidence. If you want to write a Fan Post on why we’re being unfair to Semin and have evidence to back it up, it’d be well received. But to claim bias or unfairness without examples.

Criticism is fine when warranted and backed up by some facts.

Like what started this whole discussion, that Semin is inconsistent? Honestly, are there examples of J.P. hating on Semin without providing evidence?

by David Getz on Dec 31, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Some folks who post here would not give him an unqualified compliment even IF he scored 6 unassisted goals in a game and we won 6-0.

But where was he in the 3-2 Loss!

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by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

In my book and experience on the Hill and in lobbying

Well, that explains that.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

So you say you want both sides of the story told, but then get mad when JP writes an overwhelmingly positive post on Semin but includes a negative or two in there. Clearly it looks like you don’t want both sides told, you just want the positives sung from up on high, with no negatives at all included (Psst, take your own advice and be willing to accept criticisms of Semin. It will help your credibility).

Know what else helps credibility? Providing facts or evidence for your argument (funny, you say criticism is fine when backed up with facts, and that is exactly what JP did) and providing counterarguments to criticisms instead of lobbing baseless accusations of JP and his readers being big old meanies towards Semin.

People don’t get on you because you defend Semin. People get on you because you bring no facts or analysis to the table, you disparage the credibility and parents of others, and you constantly make assertions that posters are being crude and overly personal about Semin without ever backing that up with examples when challenged. If you really did read everything here you would see that you can defend any position you want and have a good conversation about it if you make a coherent argument and support it with some evidence. So get off your freedom of speech high horse.

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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 31, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

Thanks for having my back, all. Team toughness rocks…

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

god damn that was beautiful.

by Natty Bumppo on Dec 31, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

JP’s stats clearly highlight how inconsistent Semin is, and the fact that, as you mentioned, Semin has such a good scoring average combined with prolonged slumps only strengthens the argument that he is inconsistent. What stats do you want him to use to show that Semin is a consistent player?

I will say this, while Semin has been invisible lately, at least he isn’t actively hurting the team like his slump earlier in the year. He’s just doing very little to help the team.

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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 31, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually had that same thought watching the game last night. He wasn’t doing much, but he didn’t take any PIMs or make egregious turnovers (although the SOB line in general was a turnover machine).

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by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Bias!

So first you get in trouble for pointing out all the bad things Semin does, so now you change course and point out all the good things he does, but in a bad light. When will your hatred for Semin end?

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by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

And I know this horse is dead and beaten and all, but I want to just hammer one more nail into the carcass. A playoff series is 7 games, tops. The whole concern with consistency is that you might not get anything from a guy over the course of a playoff series. One goal in 8 games is precisely the kind of disappearing act that can sink a team, and would make Semin a poor allocation of the cap hit that he seeks. That’s why I place such a premium on knowing what you are getting from a player on a game-to-game basis.

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

1 goal from Semin (or Green, or anyone but AO and Steckel) could have won the Caps the series against the Pens before they even got to Game 7.

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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 31, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Especially if combined with 1 non-goal by Poti or Shamo!

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by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

“You can’t dust for vomit”

by thebigfoist on Dec 31, 2009 10:17 AM EST reply actions   3 recs

Nice

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

What’s with the team holding a poll for choosing the next captain? That’s our job.

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by gfcaps fan on Dec 31, 2009 10:21 AM EST reply actions  

Stretch strikes again.

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by Whiter Mage on Dec 31, 2009 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Nice.

A man gotta have a code

by Carl Putnam on Dec 31, 2009 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Great game last night (because the Sharks won), but..........

I was hoping it would be more of a nail biter, but Washington didn’t seem to show up except for brief moments. I’m a little disappointed, because I wanted a typical back and forth Wash-SJ game. Pity. Why do you guys think Washington didn’t seem into it. Was it because Murray, Pavelski, and several others were injured last time we played each other, are players still getting used to the new team mate and lines? Or something else?

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by Diamondback15 on Dec 31, 2009 10:38 AM EST reply actions  

Two penalty shot goals can be pretty demoralizing.

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by jordanDC on Dec 31, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Particularly when one of them is total b.s.

by b.orr4 on Dec 31, 2009 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Like either of those lost the Caps the game. Caps looked overmatched on both ends of the ice most of the night. Nothing new against the Sharks.

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by Carl Putnam on Dec 31, 2009 10:47 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

But you didn’t see the patented late-game Caps rally that you might have seen had Thornton not been granted his penalty shot attempt.

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by jordanDC on Dec 31, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Caps shitty, force-it-to-Ovie power play didn’t help matters much, though.

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by jordanDC on Dec 31, 2009 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

1 shot in a 5 on 3 and 4 shots total on the PP. If it were a baseball game, I’d look for a huge drop on a win probability chart after coming up empty on a 5 on 3.

by miseenjeu on Dec 31, 2009 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

The penalty shots definetily had an impact. Without those two is a 3-2 game and I like the Caps chances in those situations even when they are not playing well.

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by CapsFan2020 on Dec 31, 2009 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

If a couple of shots don’t ring off either goalies post things change as well. Point is they looked like crap and didn’t deserve to win. Hell they are lucky they only lost 5-2. Their inability to clear the zone at times cost them less than it should have.

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by Carl Putnam on Dec 31, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That very first PP was ridiculous, but it was tough to blame them; that puck was bouncing somethin’ fierce and none of ’em could corral it long enough to dump it.

by DrinkingPartner on Dec 31, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

They should be used to crappy ice given where they play their home games.

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by Carl Putnam on Dec 31, 2009 11:08 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Not to mention that the Sharks managed to walk all over them on the same ice.

But I can’t remember seeing ice that I thought was that bad in a long time, just judging from the bouncing on TV.

by DrinkingPartner on Dec 31, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Our ice isn't that bad, I mean, its not good, but its not terrible

The ice might have had a bad night, it usually doesn’t bounce a lot, or at least from what I’ve seen.

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by Diamondback15 on Dec 31, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Two specific moments stand out in my mind from last night’s game as to the bounciness: the very first PK when they couldn’t settle the puck down for anything, and the AO-Semin 2-on-1 where AO put a crisp pass onto Semin’s stick and it immediately jumped on edge before he could shoot.

by DrinkingPartner on Dec 31, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Only one problem with this: unpredictability.

I mean, sure, there’s the basic “force = mass * acceleration”, and “angle of deflection = angle of return,” and “an object in motion,” but you also have unpredictability when an object bounces off another object that is not flat. And I’m trying to present this in a way that makes sense, and failing, due to tired.

Basically, it’s like what happens to a wireless signal when presented with a bumpy, reflective surface: it can bounce any which way it will, willyou-nillyou, and there’s no way in hell to control it.

Home ice is not great, no, but the puck doesn’t always bounce like a mad thing. It’s usually more thud-splat on home ice.

I only watched the first frame, due to basic tired (same reason this post isn’t making much sense), so I can’t speak to the rest of the game, but I did hear Erskine’s interview about the “throwing the stikck” debacle that led to one of the penalty shots.

The basic truth is that I can’t blame Neuvirth for either of those. A veteran player will outshine a rookie goaltender in a penalty shot situation more often than not, because the rookie just isn’t expecting all that a veteran can throw at him, and the veteran has more tricks up his sleeve. Like that penalty shot last (2008) pre-season where the goalie had Ovechkin lined up against him, and you could just hear the “mommy, he’s gonna get meeeee!” in the goalie’s head… and, predictably, the shot went in. Those just happen.

Without the pair of penalty shots, it’s 3-2, and a whole different game. The Caps can come back from 3-2 and at least throw the game into overtime, most of the time.

by IRockTheRed on Dec 31, 2009 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, penalty shots are rare and to see one team get two in one night is kind of odd.

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by CapsFan2020 on Dec 31, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Per the AP story: It hadn’t happened since Feb. 11, 1982, when Thomas Gradin and Ivan Hlinka converted for Vancouver in Detroit.

by patred48 on Dec 31, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

The last time it happened to the Caps was in October 1974, in their inaugural season. Michel Belhumeur stopped both in a 3-2 loss to Chicago.

The guy couldn’t win a game, but he could stop penalty shots. Go figure.

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by ThePeerless on Dec 31, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

To be fair, one-on-one was probably the best odds he had in those days. I’m guessing there were quite a few three/four-on-ones in that first season.

by Becca H on Dec 31, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you reffering to the last one, to Thornton.

I was watching the Caps feed and your announcers initially agreed with you, but then they figured it was because he threw his stick, which is a big no-no I think.

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by Diamondback15 on Dec 31, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Throwing a stick or pushing a stick on the ice to impede another player = Penalty Shot.

Rule 53 covers throwning of equipment, and section 53.6 describes the circumstances for awarding a Penalty Shot:

53.6 Penalty Shot – When any member of the defending team, including the Coach or any non-playing person, throws or shoots any part of a stick or any other object or piece of equipment at the puck or puck carrier in his defending zone, preventing a reasonable shot or pass,the Referee shall allow the play to be completed and if a goal is not scored, a penalty shot shall be awarded to the non-offending team. This shot shall be taken by the player designated by the Referee as the player fouled.

The call against Erskine for throwing the stick was correct. The Green call was borderline…

Let's go Caps!

by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 31, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Thought the Green call was also the correct call, in the end. He came close to hitting the puck first, but he wiped out Thornton before he got to the puck, and it was a breakaway.

Neuvy looked bad on those penalty shots. His biggest flaw, imo, was exposed there; when you make him move, he tends to move too much. He’s generally so quiet and positional, but when he has to move laterally, he often overdoes it. His last game (NJD?) I thought he had several instances where he got himself out of position, but it didn’t bite him.

At the end of the day, you’re not as bad as you look when you lose and not as good as you look when you win. Just one of those games where they played bad and the results were worse. I do believe that the two goals in the third are a good sign for the next game.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 31, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Neuvy did look like he’d never seen a breakaway in his life on those. I felt bad for him.

by DrinkingPartner on Dec 31, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I just posted this to the recap thread:

Neuvy – probably really could have used Coach Irbe there behind the bench, but the Caps chose to assign Arturs to Hershey with Varly. I understand ‘why’ they did, but a rookie is still a rookie and Irbe is a big part of both rookies’ success this year.

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by EmilyB on Dec 31, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

You can make a case either way for the Green call being a penalty shot. While I don’t want a penalty shot called against my team, part of me was ok with it because instead of having to kill off 2 minutes (thereby reducing the time to come from being down 2-0), it’s over with no time lost. A penalty shot is about a 30-35% success rate depending on the shooter (in this case Clowe) and goalie (Neuvy). Typically, the Caps only give up a goal about 20% of the time on the PK, but they would also give up 2 minutes of comeback time.

Turns out it was a moot point…

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 31, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree generally with the points you make. One minor quibble: leaving aside the PS that got scored last night, the league is shooting 28% on penalty shots

The league is shooting 32% in the shootout, however..

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 31, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I disagree, I don’t think Erskine threw his stick. I just watched the replay several times and it looks like he just lost it when it hit Thornton’s leg but he definitely did not throw it.

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by CapsFan2020 on Dec 31, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Erskine himself said in a post-game interview that he had not thrown the stick.

But if the referee sees it that way, there’s not a damnthing he can do about it.

by IRockTheRed on Dec 31, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t have the NHL Suggestion Book at work but if what you quoted above is correct, then the call was doubly wrong.

#1. Erskine didn’t throw the stick and it is a tough case to make that he did because the replays show that he lost the stick after making contact with the player.

#2. Thornton wasn’t denied a reasonable shot. Neuvirth actually made a pretty nice glove save on Thornton who didn’t miss a beat on the play despite getting whacked.

It should have been a no-call but there’s a reason why I call it the NHL Suggestion Book and not Rule Book.

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by Caps Nut on Dec 31, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think the “denied a reasonable shot” part comes into effect when a stick or a piece of equipment is thrown at a player on a breakaway. Remember last year’s Scott Hartnell glove-throwing incident? Ryan Malone still got off a good shot, but was awarded a penalty shot anyways because a piece of equipment was thrown.

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by mymclife on Dec 31, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly. It’s probably a rule as a safety issue more than anything else – can’t have guys hurling sticks at other guys. At first glance that penalty shot looked a bit soft, but if you’re following the letter of the law, that has to be called.

That was a nice shot by Clowie, too, not going to lie…why do the ones I like always hurt me? [sigh]

by Becca H on Dec 31, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha, yeah, Clowe’s shot was pretty nice, but it’s the same shot he uses every single time in the shootout. Honestly, I don’t think he’s ever done anything but forehand backhand, lol.

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by mymclife on Dec 31, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Good thing it was a very inexperienced rookie in net.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, good for us. Not so good for you guys.

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by mymclife on Dec 31, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotta get experience somehow right? I’m not all that torn up about the game. Caps didn’t come to play and dropped a regular season game on the road to an elite opponent. Life goes on, and we’ll still win the division.

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Very true. And now whenever he faces Clowe again, whether in penalty shot or shootout, he will know his move.

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by mymclife on Dec 31, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly! Now we have Clowe right where we want him…

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by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course, he isn’t used in the shootout anymore because pretty much ever starting goalie (and most backups) knows his move, but for any penalty shots or epically long shootouts, you do.

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by mymclife on Dec 31, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not all that torn up about the game

Agree on this. The regular season is about beating the bad teams, splitting with the good teams, getting a decent playoff seed, and then seeing how the draw plays out.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 31, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly his reasoning:

"I went back to the well (with the backhander)," said Clowe. "They had a young goalie in his fifth game and he probably didn’t know my move." -SJ Sharks

by idunno723 on Dec 31, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

It cracks me up that he used move, singular. I don’t know why, but it does.

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by mymclife on Dec 31, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Because normally NHL players like to pretend they have more than one move. I love the honesty.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s pretty hilarious, I have to say.

Of course, for some reason it also brings back bad memories of a shootout we had against the Red Wings where all three Detroit shooters pulled the same move on Olie…and all three scored. Ugh.

by Becca H on Dec 31, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s like he doesn’t even want to learn a new move.

by idunno723 on Dec 31, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Where is he in the SJS shoot out lineup.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Last year, he was one of the top three because goalies didn’t know his move and he’d score around 60% of the time. Now, he’s used only if it goes to extra rounds.

Our regular shootout guys are Pavelski, Boyle, and Marleau/whoever is hot.

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by mymclife on Dec 31, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Right, but CN’s point is that Erskine didn’t throw the stick. CN seems to think it was more of a slash, which would implicate the “reasonable shot” standard. If you think it was a thrown stick, then it’s a PS; if you don’t think it was a thrown stick, then no PS.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

True, but I’m just saying that if the refs did think that it was a thrown stick, then the second point would be moot. I’m a bit iffy about whether or not that was a penalty shot myself – I don’t think Erskine set out to have the stick come out of his hand like that, but the way that it did does look a little like a thrown stick. The ref doesn’t have the ability to check things out on a slow-mo replay, so I can see why he called it as such.

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by mymclife on Dec 31, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. I can quibble about some of the calls last night but the bottom line is that the Caps didn’t bring it and the Sharks did so the Sharks deserved to win, however it played out.

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly, just like how last time you guys totally dominated us.

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by mymclife on Dec 31, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

No, that time was because we’re better.

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Watching the play during the game, it didn’t look like Erskine threw his stick and watching a replay on the news from a different angle only looked like he lost control of it and it went flying out of his hand as he lost his balance. It seemed like a bogus call to me, but I haven’t heard what Erskine said about it.

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by oldemystix on Jan 1, 2010 5:41 AM EST up reply actions  

On the slow-mo replay of Thornton’s shot, I still can’t see the puck. It’s like the puck is on his stick one second, then .00000000000001 seconds later it’s in the net.

by patred48 on Dec 31, 2009 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Basically everyone I’ve ever heard wants him to shoot more. It’s a lot like Backstrom, both are such accurate passers they always look to do that first but they can shoot damn near as accurately as they can pass.

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

What was wrong with the Caps? Long version of my take in the recap thread, short version is that they could not make or receive a pass. Caps game depends very heavily on sharp, crisp passing and for some reason they were incapable last night. We’ve seen this from them before. It’s just an ordinary slump, and this is how it manifests with this team.

I did think the ice was bad, which surprised me because I’ve been to the Tank many times before and the ice is always good. But Thornton/Marleau/Heatley weren’t really doing their thing last night either. It was odd.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Dec 31, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

For the record

I really missed Corey yesterday. Both during the day, when Caps Insider was barely updated, and last night during the game. Really really really missed his twitters, and WaPo coverage immediately seemed less responsive.

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by EmilyB on Dec 31, 2009 10:50 AM EST reply actions  

Agree with you completely. Maybe the Caps could continue to honor his press pass and allow him in the box for the rest of the season? Paying his expenses to bring him along on road trips would be nice, too, but I’ll try not to be too greedy. Besides, he needs to look for a job, too.

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by gfcaps fan on Dec 31, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

If the Caps gave me a credential, they ain’t yankin’ his. Query how much he wants to keep covering the team “just for fun,” though.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, he does a lot of free time now…

by b.orr4 on Dec 31, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd...

…For the Spinal Tap reference in the title! David, Nigel and Derek would be proud…

Let's go Caps!

by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 31, 2009 11:05 AM EST reply actions  

I nearly went with “Shit Sandwich”

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, you and the critics…

Well we can always kick Artie Fufkin’s ass…

Let's go Caps!

by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 31, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d have voted for Giant Douche.

by DrinkingPartner on Dec 31, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

things I think I saw

Watched a chunk of the rebroadcast last night.

Nabokov was positioned properly and everything on Knuble’s goal. The rear angle seemed to show his stick was positioned to make the save. So I was wondering how the puck squeezed through his legs.

The overhead replay of the goal showed the d-man had his stick out to block the pass, but the blade went between Nabokov’s pads. In that moment of he created a gap under the goalie stick that allowed the shot to slide in.

All Caps goals are fluffy beautiful unique snowflakes. Like Mike Knuble.

by Icebat on Dec 31, 2009 12:00 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I was wondering the same thing. Sometimes you just have to give credit to the shooter.

Mike Knuble found a tiny hole and lasered it right through. It was just a great shot.

I'm warning you! I have ADHD and I know how to use it!!!

by Diamondback15 on Dec 31, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Mike Knuble = fluffy beautiful unique snowflake.

Yeah, he like Lady Gaga, but come on…. ;-)

Oh what the hell,.. Rec’d

Let's go Caps!

by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 31, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

SouthLeast article

Can someone explain to me what the author is talking about. My brain in stupid today and I know I’m missing something.

/gratzie.

by Yoshietree on Dec 31, 2009 12:25 PM EST reply actions  

Great Coverage, Great Blog

Feel like I am calling a radio talk show…long time reader, first time poster.

Just wanted to say that I have really enjoyed keeping up with the Caps on Jasper’s Rink. Always a lot of good info, good discussions, and a few good laughs. I stopped reading CI comments because of the b.s. that has taken over. I think we can all agree that we enjoy the game of hockey, and for a blog and a community I really feel that everyone is open to a discussion and seeing all sides of an argument. Just my observation.

Thanks from a girl from KY who grew up on basketball on horse racing. Happy New Year to all!

by abfarley on Dec 31, 2009 1:32 PM EST reply actions  

Horse basketball?

"I didn't mind a diminished role because we were winning so much and we're such a great team and had a chance to do something in the playoffs...I would have taken any role on this team to do that.

by Bald Pollack on Dec 31, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks, and welcome! Hope to see you jumpin’ into the fray a lot more in the new year!

Oh… and Japers’, not Jasper’s. But don’t worry – you’re not the first nor will you be the last to make that mistake.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it time to go home yet? Some noteworthy typos in my post, eh. BTW – that picture looks like my 10th birthday party.

by abfarley on Dec 31, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Not even close to what I normally type out and then fail to edit. Welcome aboard.

A man gotta have a code

by Carl Putnam on Dec 31, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

And you have your avatar in order, so kudos.

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Sweet avatar, Farley. One of my favorite moments.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Dec 31, 2009 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Just turned in two applications for Capitals license plates!

I am easily satisfied with the very best

by Ovechwin on Dec 31, 2009 1:42 PM EST reply actions  

i turned mine in at the game on monday :) excitingness!

"No Brooks Laich, no win. Know Brooks Laich, know win."

by kellobellow on Dec 31, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Stupid Virginia and their 350 applicants required, I hope they got enough!

I am easily satisfied with the very best

by Ovechwin on Dec 31, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

the girl i turned mine into said she’s pretty sure it’s all good :)

"No Brooks Laich, no win. Know Brooks Laich, know win."

by kellobellow on Dec 31, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I was told by a semi-reliable source last Wednesday that they were 20 applications away from the 350 mark.

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Everybody Wang Chung......

Please load brain before shooting off mouth.™

by Caps Nut on Dec 31, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I sort of like my “state seal” license plate. So I asked Santa for a Caps license plate frame. Looks pretty sporty!

by mechanicsville on Dec 31, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I have Maryland plates and I’m 494 and I’ve never seen anything higher. I’ve seen 493. I was at my local Best Buy a week before Christmas and saw 39 and wanted to switch plates. I’d love a Steckel plate. I have double Hot Pockets. :’(

by terpgrrl on Dec 31, 2009 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

so… per @VogsCaps
  

Caps lines at Thu. Practice near LA: 8-19-28, 14-9-10, 25-21-22 and 53-39-16/15.

quite interesting… the one that made me do a double-take the most is 14-9-10.

"No Brooks Laich, no win. Know Brooks Laich, know win."

by kellobellow on Dec 31, 2009 2:05 PM EST reply actions  

Those lines are bizarre. Except the first one, of course, which is above criticism.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

or at least not surprising

"No Brooks Laich, no win. Know Brooks Laich, know win."

by kellobellow on Dec 31, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Always? If they’re not perfect 100% of the time, there’s room for criticism. Not much, but some.

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Dec 31, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

They’re always perfect, though. So no room for criticism.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

The superlative play of #28 makes up for the enormous flaws in the games of his linemates.

Always, without exception.

They should extend their shifts, stop being so selfless about getting off the ice.

"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"

by fat_daddyo on Dec 31, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Indeed. And they should stop trying to avoid opponents’ bodies and sticks when passing the puck and just try to jam the damn thing through solid objects. I’m sure it’d work better.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

The laws of physics are for lesser beings, certainly.

ALEX, FЯEE

by EmilyB on Dec 31, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

“In this house, we obey the Laws of Thermodynamics!”

"Ah, dinner. The perfect break between work and drunk." - Homer Simpson

by apk3000 on Dec 31, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

One of the oft-neglected (and you’re a major culprit here, sir, if I might be so bold) but invaluable abilities of #28 is an ability to suspend the laws of physics. However, he can only perform this trick with the minor aid of the other team members, which they spitefully withhold on most occasions.

"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"

by fat_daddyo on Dec 31, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Because they’re biased.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Not to mention crass.

"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"

by fat_daddyo on Dec 31, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

The residual inside jokes almost make dealing with infuriating situations worth it. Almost.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of, someone should do a Top 10 list of Rink inside jokes (with background/origin), including:

  • Eat a fucking porcupine
  • The embarrassment of having Chris Clark handed the Cup
  • Deleting a FanPost
  • Schultz for Norris! (That is a joke, right guys?)
  • Care Bears
  • The Rabbit

And so on.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Other candidates

*Cled

*Mustaches

*Princess

*Go Flyers

There’s a couple on your list that I wasn’t around for, so we might have to go with a group effort?

"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"

by fat_daddyo on Dec 31, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Let’s just put it on Natty’s to do list.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

(and actually, might fit right in with his glossary project)

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

i’m starting to feel bad for withholding….but yes, all the inside jokes i can possibly remember will go in there. the goal is to have a reference to catch newbies up to speed so we don’t have to keep repeating everything (and so i don’t have to keep linking old conversations).

by Natty Bumppo on Dec 31, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

And for the ladies…

- bubbles
- beefcakes w/ icing
- Brooks Laich

…k, that last one’s not so much an inside joke as it is just fact, because Brooks Laich is always a bullet point.

by Becca H on Dec 31, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but that’s not ours – that’s theirs.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

If one of the guys ever inadvertently calls Brooks “bubbles” in an interview, I will never stop laughing. True story.

…partly because it would mean they read the Rink. More specifically, they read THAT comment thread.

by Becca H on Dec 31, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

oh dear. if that happened, I’m gonna just die laughing.

But you know…. if a Caps marketing person ever read that thread…

by Vinn on Dec 31, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

…We’d have our calendar?

by terpgrrl on Dec 31, 2009 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, that was freaky… ;)

by Becca H on Dec 31, 2009 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Indeed – psst, marketing people, we want calendars!

(With bubbles and icing.)

by Becca H on Dec 31, 2009 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes. Imagine how much money could be made off of them/go to charity :D

and I wonder if anyone wondered why anyone would even send in a “Go Bubbles” message (but whoa. that’s interesting.)

by Vinn on Dec 31, 2009 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Before the game against the Sabres, there was a message scrolling on the bottom ticker on the big screen that said, “Go Bubbles” I really want to know who it was.

by terpgrrl on Dec 31, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

IT WAS ME!!!!!!! I was hoping someone would see it!

I am easily satisfied with the very best

by Ovechwin on Dec 31, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I was convinced no one would :P

I am easily satisfied with the very best

by Ovechwin on Dec 31, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I said something at the meet-up about it. I guess you hadn’t gotten there yet. haha We were all wondering. Oh bubbles

by terpgrrl on Dec 31, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, it was probably while I was contemplating joining :P

I am easily satisfied with the very best

by Ovechwin on Dec 31, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Someone called Neuvy “Jizz Stool” last night. Good one.

by bigeugene on Dec 31, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

But Semin never spent any time in Hershey.

"Inglewood Jack! Inglewood Jack!" - Coach Jules

by Alz Well That Ends Well on Dec 31, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

You’ve missed the photo that refers to. Someone took it at practice several days ago.

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Dec 31, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t miss it, I was making a bad joke on the second half of that nickname. Apologies.

"Inglewood Jack! Inglewood Jack!" - Coach Jules

by Alz Well That Ends Well on Dec 31, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, I missed the snark. My bad.

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Dec 31, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

No worries. My M.O. is yell first, determine the truth later. Then keep yelling anyway. I learned from Grapes.

"Inglewood Jack! Inglewood Jack!" - Coach Jules

by Alz Well That Ends Well on Dec 31, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Better than “Jizz’s Tool”

"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"

by fat_daddyo on Dec 31, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

It was definitely JizzChair

by terpgrrl on Dec 31, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

i was going to say, the rabbits could definitely add a few of our own – nicely done :)

"No Brooks Laich, no win. Know Brooks Laich, know win."

by kellobellow on Dec 31, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

  • My Little Power Play

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Chris Clark apparently still being available for the warmup Monday was a recent favorite.

"I didn't mind a diminished role because we were winning so much and we're such a great team and had a chance to do something in the playoffs...I would have taken any role on this team to do that.

by Bald Pollack on Dec 31, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh. But that was retracted.

  • Anti-Seminism

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

this thread just made my job a lot easier.

by Natty Bumppo on Dec 31, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Help me… help you.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I need this thing to come together ASAP because, as embarrassing as this is, I don’t even know what a lot of those are. Oops.

by Becca H on Dec 31, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Most of the pertain to the regulars making fun of this other blog, you may have heard of it…

"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"

by fat_daddyo on Dec 31, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

and don’t forget all those “mute points”

by mechanicsville on Dec 31, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

hello, how can we forget

smakedown

Fun fact: A popular opinion can still be stupid.

by RedBirdie on Dec 31, 2009 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

also need to define “Wingah” and all of its various other spellings. wingahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Fun fact: A popular opinion can still be stupid.

by RedBirdie on Dec 31, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Wingar

I am easily satisfied with the very best

by Ovechwin on Dec 31, 2009 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

And ill-bred.

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, I’m pretty sure Semin hasn’t scored much recently only because he is finishing up his cure for cancer.

Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst

by Killer_Carlson on Dec 31, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

What a waste of time...

when a few words from Brooks Laich has the same effect.

by redlineblue on Dec 31, 2009 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I won’t speak to Brooks Laich for fear of getting pregnant.

I could have been equipment manager, but nooooo!

by boutros23 on Dec 31, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

But if it was with Brooks’ baby? I’d have a conversation with him.

by terpgrrl on Dec 31, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Brooksie’s baby would be a rough one to carry.

I could have been equipment manager, but nooooo!

by boutros23 on Dec 31, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Things didn’t go very well for Io, Semele, or Callisto, or Leto.

Then again, Laich is not married to Hera (that we know of)

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Dec 31, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m willing to take the risk.

by terpgrrl on Dec 31, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

At least 1/3 of it is.

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Looks like BB wants an energy line (3rd line).

A man gotta have a code

by Carl Putnam on Dec 31, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

From what we saw last night (plus 25-22 looked pretty good chemistry-wise)… that line seems more than just energy.

but uh……..14-9-10!??!!

by Vinn on Dec 31, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, i dub it the “wtf?!” line – it’ll just confuse the hell out of the opposition.

"No Brooks Laich, no win. Know Brooks Laich, know win."

by kellobellow on Dec 31, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, if that doesn’t light a fire under some of them, I can’t imagine what would.

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Dec 31, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Might I suggest “lighting a fire under some of them”?

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Ouch. In the literal sense.

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Dec 31, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

So the team should be set for Saturday night, right? We have Ovie dropping his gloves last night, Green not making the Olympic team, and Boudreau making some line changes (nothing new, but saying that is nothing new, either). Enough fire for the boys to get back to form?

by abfarley on Dec 31, 2009 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

14-9-10.

Ten is, in fact, Matt Bradley…right? Or am I having an encroaching dementia moment?

I guess the coach is not pleased and trying to let them know that. 25-21-22 I can get behind

"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"

by fat_daddyo on Dec 31, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

That line will be great at crashing the net and all… but who’s the puck carrier? I envision three guys on top of the crease waiting for a puck that never arrives.

And yeah… maybe Bruce saw my “Bradley > Semin” stat and took it the wrong way.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

That is my concern as well. I’d rather have 25-9-22 myself.

A man gotta have a code

by Carl Putnam on Dec 31, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m gonna say that this line is going to have to dump it in and then forecheck. As you say, there is no puck carrying forward on the line.

This, by the way, may all be salutary in intent: demoting Knuble to the third line might just be intended to give him a little wake up call, in other words.

"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"

by fat_daddyo on Dec 31, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate – HATE – 21 and 22 on the same line. To further JP’s point, and it’s something I’ve said before, having Laich and Knuble on the same line leads to a kind of Three Stooges act in front of the opponent’s net. They not only both go there, they go there and run into each other and get in each other’s way.

Now if the puck finds it’s way past the goalie in all that confusion, great. It rarely seems to, though.

by Becca H on Dec 31, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

But that line did score a goal last night after a nice prolonged cycle.

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Bubbles, Knuckles and Beast on one line is bizarro. All three would be crashing the net…at the same time!

by terpgrrl on Dec 31, 2009 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

… but who’s the puck carrier?

Mike Green, the almost-Olympic wingah?

by mercurialwinger on Dec 31, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

To my knowledge, 10 is Brads. Er… But 14-9-10!? Right.

by Vinn on Dec 31, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Fehr dropping to l4 isn’t surprising….he’s been invisible for a while.

by Ginga on Dec 31, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you see him literally hurl hisself at the play a few times last night? I’ve no idea what he was trying to do—be noticed?—but he was trying it with real um fehrvor.

by redlineblue on Dec 31, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I would rather put Fehr back on the 2nd line myself. He has produced well with Mo and Flash, in the past. In my humble opinion, Fehr produces better on the second line than any where else. That’s where he was when he had his goal scoring streak last year and this year. Consider me a member of the Fehr as 2nd line right wing lobby.

Rocking the Red since 1975

by CapsFan75 on Dec 31, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Welcome back to the dog house, Eric Fehr.

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s been a while, but you remember where everything is, right?

by mechanicsville on Dec 31, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s like going back to mom and dad’s at this point.

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 31, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

8:00 a game, here we come.

by mechanicsville on Jan 1, 2010 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Unless he racks up some takeaways, and creates scoring chances. In which case you’re looking a 6:15/gm.

by redlineblue on Jan 1, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

A bit off-topic. . .

I am going to the Kings game on Sunday,
Yay or Nay to my friend and I wearing astronaut suits?
I think we need to energize the Caps, Major Tom style.

Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .

by kingzman264 on Dec 31, 2009 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

Sunday? You may be a little late for the game.

A man gotta have a code

by Carl Putnam on Dec 31, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah that was a calender fail. . . meant Saturday

Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .

by kingzman264 on Dec 31, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

well that’s that. I am going to rent 2 astronaut costumes.. .

Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .

by kingzman264 on Dec 31, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

New Year’s Eve in L.A., no game tomorrow…..dare I say, check TMZ tomorrow for some Ovi sightings out on the town?

IS SUNSET STЯIP NOW

by Cluster on Dec 31, 2009 4:13 PM EST reply actions  

hah good look. Roam the streets in search of #8

Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .

by kingzman264 on Dec 31, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s rare that I feel qualified to give Alex Ovechkin advice on, well, anything, but allow me to this one time. Dude – steer clear of the Seventh Veil.

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by J.P. on Dec 31, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

OT

RedBirdie, iirc you may have had tickets available for the 1/5 or 1/7 game (mentioned in a thread somewhere a week or so ago). I put a thingy on the ticket exchange if they are still available. If i’m mistaken, this message will self destruct in never seconds

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