Recap: Sharks 5, Capitals 3
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After tough losses players often talk about wanting to get right back out on the ice. The day after a tough loss to the conference-leading New York Rangers, the Washington Capitals got such a chance, and in the friendly confines of Verizon Center, no less. Yesterday the Caps got no luck with the bounces (although they've generally been pretty lucky of late), but they also didn't do themselves any favor with the execution. Coming in to tonight, everyone knew they'd have to play better to beat a good (but merely division leading) San Jose Sharks team. The Caps played well to start, but the PDO regression finally came calling and the next thing you knew it was another blowout.
Ten more notes on the game:
- When news broke an hour before the game that Braden Holtby and Joel Rechlicz were called up, I think most assumed they'd total about 2:52 minutes of ice time combined. Then we found out that Holtby was starting. Two straight games goalies had short notice. Eight combined goals against.
- Holtby was in a tough spot from the start, but early on it looked like he was going to make a nice story out of it. He had some huge saves in the first period to keep the game close. But then a once-in-a-lifetime, twice-in-a-week, kind of shot got past him. From there things snowballed but you can't completely blame the goalie for any of them.
- On a night when both teams (theoretically) scored enough goals to win, it's no shock the offensive came out to play. Every Shark you've ever heard of had a point, and the Caps got goals from throughout their high powered. Dmitri Orlov kicked it up with a blast of a point shot. Then Roman Hamrlik channeled another time and jumped into the play, beating Greiss to make the score... close to respectable. And no offensive explosion is complete without Jeff Schultz having his say. Double Nickel does what he does best and hammered the puck so hard Shea Weber would cower. Respectability, achieved.
- Coin flip games don't leave a lot of margin for error. One way to improve your margin for error is to win the special teams battle. Tonight the Caps lost both special teams battles, going 50% on the PK and 0% on the PP. The Caps also lost the battle of the bounces. The result was predictably ugly.
- Advanced Stat Watch: On the first power play the Sharks deflected a puck high in the slot. The puck bounced off the ice and into Holtby's pad. The PDO smiled on the Capitals.
- Advanced Stat Watch II: Then the first goal happened. San Jose dumped the puck on net from center ice. This time, instead of deflecting off a Caps defender, Joe Pavelski made a great play and slapped the puck off the ice. After a double-skip the puck bounced up and beat Holtby's glove. The PDO giveth and the PDO taketh away.
- After a rough game yesterday, Orlov was one of the better Caps tonight, and provided the first goal in the dying second of the second period. Good to see him bounce back and give the team some hope going into the third period.
- Real tough night for Karl Alzner and John Carlson. They were both on for the first five goals against. Even with bad bounces, that stings.
- Every once in a while you a stat line that stands out. Six shots on goal, 5 shots blocked, 4 hits, 3 takeaways, 2 faceoffs won, 1 block, 0 faceoffs lost. Seven goals would have rounded out the Alex Ovechkin's night nicely. I guess it wasn't meant to be.
- So Rechlicz didn't even step on the ice to get his 10 PIM. Now that's some enforcin'.
And with that, the Caps get a three day rest before they jump back into division play with a chance to close the gap on the Florida Panthers. Nothing has changed since yesterday, or the day before, save for the opportunity cost for 2 points. This team isn't too far out to make the playoffs, but things need to change drastically if they're going to harbor the dreams we all had back in training camp.
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We’re still complaining about bad bounces.
Dammit, Jagr! Burn in Philly!
by Penguin Hunter on Feb 13, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
Except when they cost you goals.
Dammit, Jagr! Burn in Philly!
by Penguin Hunter on Feb 13, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
Good news: either we play the Sharks again this season or we don’t.
by wickedwitch on Feb 13, 2012 10:30 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Hopefully we do.
Dammit, Jagr! Burn in Philly!
by Penguin Hunter on Feb 13, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
The acrostic sums it up pretty nicely. Caps have gotten themselves into a tough spot, and I don’t think they have what it will take to get out of it.
Failure is always an option.
We needed 3 or 4 guys to have career years to make up for no Nicky or Green. Instead we have one (Chimmer), and a bunch (OvI, Semin, Knuble, Ward) with subpar years.
by ShootTheBullets on Feb 13, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
I was wondering whether it was directed to the team or their fans at this point.
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by ExPatCapFan on Feb 14, 2012 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
Well I’ve snarked on that chant many times, so that’s obviously part of it. But that was also the overwhelming sentiment I had watching this entire game. As per my tweet publicizing this post, blase was my attitude for the night.
Please, call me F&B.
But hey, Kuznetsov!
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Not sure how this relates to discussion about the game.
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 13, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
Just trying to be positive.
"I'd have to say Russian girls over American girls. They have much better fashion sense, I think." -Semyon Varlamov
by KillerTestudo on Feb 13, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That and Orlov are some of the bright spots we can take from this game.
Orlov is a good young D. I’m liking him more and more. He is still very raw, but he has that skills to be a future stud. Fast skater and great with the puck. I know skating isn’t everything (Sloan shout-out!) but watching him rush back to cut off a Forward is pretty. Almost like Green used to do.
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What will the trade deadline bring. I almost dread.
Dammit, Jagr! Burn in Philly!
by Penguin Hunter on Feb 13, 2012 10:33 PM EST reply actions
3 C’s and 2 Dmen?
"I'd have to say Russian girls over American girls. They have much better fashion sense, I think." -Semyon Varlamov
by KillerTestudo on Feb 13, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
And a partridge in a pear tree: Yeah, I know how this goes.
Dammit, Jagr! Burn in Philly!
by Penguin Hunter on Feb 13, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I still care. I do. I can’t help it.
This sucks.
Anyway, yeah, the PDO chickens are coming home to roost for this squad, and this game was ugly.
If I can find a positive, they continue to play hard, which hasn’t always been the case for this team. Badly, but hard. That’s better than lazy and bad, so at least there’s something happening that’s positive.
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by fat_daddyo on Feb 13, 2012 10:34 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
42 shots! Amazing how the ones that did have traffic seemed to find the net too.
Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.
by Davethecapsfan on Feb 13, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
Score effects, but yeah.
SJS have a depth of quality offensive talent that the Caps just can’t match.
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We outshot them in the 1st and 2nd, 12-12 in the 3rd. Can’t completely buy score effects tonight.
Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.
by Davethecapsfan on Feb 13, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
Hope it takes into account the very early PP chance that they built their early shots lead on. Just not buying we got dominated in the first 40 minutes.
Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.
by Davethecapsfan on Feb 13, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
+1
What doesnt kill you makes you stronger.
by BetterOffWith28 on Feb 13, 2012 10:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well, at least they’re not Columbus.
Dammit, Jagr! Burn in Philly!
by Penguin Hunter on Feb 13, 2012 10:36 PM EST reply actions
If we’re going to miss the playoffs, I wish we were Columbus. If you’re going to miss the playoffs, get the number 1 pick!
by Dirk Dangler on Feb 13, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
That’s crazy talk
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by BetterOffWith28 on Feb 13, 2012 10:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yeah, we don’t have Jeff Carter. Yet.
"I'd have to say Russian girls over American girls. They have much better fashion sense, I think." -Semyon Varlamov
With him he will bring Dry Island.
Dammit, Jagr! Burn in Philly!
by Penguin Hunter on Feb 13, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
I think AO’s antifreeze is what is scoring him goals.
Dammit, Jagr! Burn in Philly!
by Penguin Hunter on Feb 13, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
Stephen Whyno @SWhyno
Hunter said Rechlicz was in lineup because Winchester ran over Semin during game in San Jose.
And having Rechlicz in for 1:30 helps how?
Failure is always an option.
If you need firepower, go with proven guys, eh, Dale? We’re waiting for Erskine.
Dammit, Jagr! Burn in Philly!
by Penguin Hunter on Feb 13, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
Some of the decisions defy logic…healthy scratching Knuble to give Rechliz 1:30 b/c, oh my god, another hockey player hit one of yours weeks ago?
That alone is enough to question someone’s sanity.
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My opinion exactly.
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Lunacy
All three Bears sent back today…senseless roster moves which did NOTHING more than sow distrust and discord in an already tenuous locker room.
Is that based on your exposure to the room?
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 14, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
and if it wasn’t puzzling enough – this is the second game of a back-to-back and to voluntarily shorten your bench?
also, with a 5-1 lead, why not just roll the lines and get Rechlicz on the ice to give the guys a break – oh, and start a fight. What are you protecting at 5-1 down in the third?
makes no sense to me at all. Knuble must have been tearing his hair out. His team desperately needed a physical presence in front of the net and they got someone to open the door on the bench and butt-slap players coming through the door… GMGM must think his world (and job) is ending. dreadful coaches decision.
OH GOD - that referee sucks!
"Actually, his name is pronounced Auger!"
by Goody2shoes on Feb 14, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
Yea that guy must know nothing about hockey. You Japers guys are way smarter than any Dale Hunter.
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by sickleandhammer on Feb 14, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
Trolling is unnecessary, discouraged and verboten against the community guidelines, as an FYI.
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 14, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
Oh so sorry I didn’t mean to offend anyone’s delicate sensitivities.
Let’s try this again.
“It is possible Hunter know what he is doing, and the posters here on Japer’s rink might not know what that is.”
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by sickleandhammer on Feb 14, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
Rather than engage the first half of the comment, I’ll link to said guidelines and move along.
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 14, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
thank you for noticing. on this issue? yes… we are!
OH GOD - that referee sucks!
"Actually, his name is pronounced Auger!"
by Goody2shoes on Feb 14, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
Moronic, considering he didn’t even fight. He got a sweater over Knuble.
It’s irrationality at this point.
If the caps don’t make the playoff, I’ll be very surprised if Hunter is not fired
What doesnt kill you makes you stronger.
by BetterOffWith28 on Feb 13, 2012 11:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He may resign before he gets fired.
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We can only hope.
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by KillerTestudo on Feb 14, 2012 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
I wasn’t watching until the third period. How did Rechlicz get a misconduct from the bench?
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I think it was “Hey Ref, just go ahead and give me a misconduct so I can get on the scoresheet. I can stand here and call you a cocksucking douche bag and assorted other names, but that’s just wasting time and might hurt your feelings. So just give it to me, ok”?
by Dirk Dangler on Feb 13, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
My first time attending a caps loss! And what a stinker of a performance by the home team!
I feel like I can officially be a caps fan now.
Welcome to the club.
Dammit, Jagr! Burn in Philly!
by Penguin Hunter on Feb 13, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Let’s just say that I’m not surprised by this one.
by JMurphyCSC on Feb 13, 2012 10:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Is it messed up that the only thing I was rooting for after the second period was for Marleau to score because he’s on my fantasy team?
This team is toast. I hope they finally confirm as much over this next road trip so that GMGM doesn’t get all delusional and trade a bunch of future assets and draft picks for another kick at the can. If they trade their first(s) and/or Kuznetsov for magic beans, I’m going to be pissed.
Unleash the Apathy.
Yeah, hopefully they can get at least something for Semin or Vokoun at this stage, though like I’ve said I’m convinced they’ll keep both in an effort to put asses in the seats.
This is a poorly run team.
I don’t know what you guys expect from a team without a top center or top defensemen. The Caps are straight babytown frolics down the middle compared to a large majority of this league. Look at tonight, it was something like
Thornton-Couture-Handzus vs. Johansson-Laich-Perrault. . . that’s laughable.
At this point, the Capitals need to fight tooth and nail to extend their season long enough for Backstrom and Green to get back.
Soon the Championship with be ours, all ours!
by kingzman264 on Feb 13, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
The Caps will play long enough to get Green back. I think he’ll be back for most of March if a source I talked to can believed. As for Backstrom, I doubt we see him this season. The Calgary game will have been our last look at Backstrom in action. (I don’t feel too optimistic on Nicky for this year, frankly.) I figure as soon as Green’s ready, Backstrom will be put on LTIR.
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Well, heading into the season, we thought the Caps had great depth at all positions save C, and should have been good enough to withstand losing 19 for a bit. Relative to where they were even with 19, I think they’ve done pretty well. But relative to early-season expectations, not even close. I think most people here still think the roster is pretty solid, save for C, myself included (every team has roster holes, though). Until they can perform within the ballpark of expectations, it’ll always be disappointment.
If they can repeat tonight’s performance (with better goaltending) in the future, I think the team will do decently well for itself. I’m not sure how the Sharks was playing tonight relative to how they normally play, but they’re 55% in scoring chances and close to 60%, IIRC, score-tied, which is fantastic. Playing them even, even with score effects (per Neil’s tweets outchancing them when the game wasn’t yet out of reach), is solid.
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by red army line on Feb 14, 2012 1:21 AM EST up reply actions
I really doubt GMGM would get all delusional come trade deadline day. In it’s current state, this is a 6-10 seed team; which is actually impressive considering they don’t have a true 1D or a true 1C.
When/If the Capitals make the play-offs, I’m willing to bet they’ll have Mike Green and Nick Backstrom back for a series or two. IF the team can stay healthy, they’ve got a fantastic shot at upsetting a clipped Rangers squad or a seriously bumped up B’s team.
Soon the Championship with be ours, all ours!
by kingzman264 on Feb 13, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
At least, a 6-10 team is what it should be on paper. If you had gone on the ROW stats, the team SHOULD be better than the Panthers, Ottawa, Toronto, and NJ. But we can’t get our act together.
Rocking the Red for teams on the banks of the Potomac and at the Gateway Arch and Singing the Blues about Hockey.
G’night, Florida onwards.
Dammit, Jagr! Burn in Philly!
by Penguin Hunter on Feb 13, 2012 10:57 PM EST reply actions
Well, say this loss swings gmgm into sale mode. What do you all think of these trades
Vokoun and Schultz to Chicago for a 1st and a prospect
Semin and Knuble to the kings for a 1st
That gives us 4 1st round picks, which gets you some nice prospects or some nice trade bait.
MOAR SEVERINO!
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by jeff550 on Feb 13, 2012 11:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I highly doubt you’d get a 1st for Semin and a 39 year old.
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by KillerTestudo on Feb 13, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
if a washed up jason arnott cost the caps a 2nd round pick, I hope GMGM can do better than this.
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by cainoo7x on Feb 13, 2012 11:10 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Plus, the Caps had to cough up David Steckel as well as the 2nd rounder.
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I wonder what Arnott would have to say about the Caps locker room now?
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by KillerTestudo on Feb 13, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
Picks are great, but at some point this team is going to have to get a 2C. One that will be useful in the next couple of years, not developing for the future.
Warning: I started watching hockey in 2007. So, yeah.
by Laich Button on Feb 13, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
agree completely with this.
I don't want to work, I want to hang on the blog all day.
by cainoo7x on Feb 13, 2012 11:11 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
That’s what I had in mind when I mentioned trade bait. Right now we cant really afford to overpay for a 2c, which is what it would take, but with 4 1st round picks you can afford to overpay for what you need
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by jeff550 on Feb 13, 2012 11:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ah, I see. I definitely agree that this trade deadline is not going to be the time to get a 2C. It would be interesting to see what we could garner in the offseason with that many picks.
Warning: I started watching hockey in 2007. So, yeah.
by Laich Button on Feb 13, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
The first trade depends on the quality of the prospect.
The starting point for Semin has to be a first. Adding Knuble should up it, even if slightly.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 14, 2012 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
Probably the 40th time I have said so, so please forgive, but I still maintain that 28 gives more than he takes—esp if you can’t get an immediate asset (2C) for him…plus, unless a potential trade partner has a Russian or two (Colorado?) on their roster, I can’t see Semin wrapping his head around playing well enough for said partner to take a chance.
Only caught a small part of the game, but reading this recap, Twitter, and other recaps/comments around the internet, am I right in saying the Caps’ skaters played decently well for most of the game, only losing it when they went down three?
I really really hope the last couple of weeks signal a miraculous, drastic turnaround. I guess someone had to teach the team the value of hard work at some point.
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I’d say that’s correct, we did well on possession and SOG, just don’t have anyone who can finish. It’s obvious over the last week and half that the Caps just don’t have the offensive guns to hang, even when they do the little things right.
What a difference a year makes.
I don’t buy that this team doesn’t have anyone who can finish. Anyway, three goals seems like a decent enough total, even if two or three of them were kind of soft. The five GA seems more like the issue here.
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by red army line on Feb 13, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
It’s not enough though, there have to be some nights where they can exceed three goals. The power play needed to do more. Specifically, Ovechkin and Semin needed to convert some of their chances on said power plays.
And not just them. Laich had a great short handed chance that he failed to convert. (Or is my memory off as to who it was that failed to convert.)
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Laich had a SH breakaway. Got caught by the dman, so he didn’t get off the best shot.
Failure is always an option.
He still had an angle to put it home. Look like he flubbed the shot.
Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.
by Davethecapsfan on Feb 14, 2012 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
OK, Mojo, Semin, Ovechkin, Laich, Brouwer, Hendricks can’t finish.
FIFY
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Ovi was on a bit of a tear of late. Semin has also potted a few. Brouwer was hooked in the crease last game Laich is probably not 100%. And who really expects Hendricks to score?
MoJo has had some empty net chances tap ins that he has shanked.
by Gin and Tonic on Feb 14, 2012 12:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
My eyes tell me the Caps are leaps and bounds better now than even a few weeks ago. I actually feel more optimistic now than I did when they were winning 1-0 and 2-1 while being outshot, outchanced, and dominated.
So their luck is evening out. But when it does, if they still play like this, they’ll win more than they’ll lose.
Green back soon. Florida sucks. I’m still optimistic.
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by breed16 on Feb 13, 2012 11:09 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I’m here too. There’s very little margin for error, but the Caps are still within one point of a playoff spot.
I’m not panicking just yet, but we’ll see what Florida brings.
I guess the most difficult thing is seeing a team that should be winning more games than they are, depending on other teams to do their dirty work for them. TOR is a point ahead of WAS but play CGY and EDM in Alberta the next two nights. The Leafs could be five points on the WAS come Friday when the Caps play next.
OTT is three points up on the Caps and only have two games between now and next Monday. They play TBL tomorrow. A loss would be nice. But then Wednesday night, they play the Panthers. Logically a Senators win in regulation over the Panthers would be nice to keep the division lead within four. But that means they would be five up on the Caps come Friday night.
When you don’t do your own work and depend on others to do it for you, you are liable to get screwed with all the complications.
by Rather Bengt on Feb 13, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
+1 I’m not panicking yet either, but I’m cautiously freaking out.
What doesnt kill you makes you stronger.
by BetterOffWith28 on Feb 13, 2012 11:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
ehhh, Both yesterday and tonight, the scorelines flattered us. The gulf b/w the Rangers/Sharks and our team is immense.
by DonnieKnutts on Feb 14, 2012 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
Thoughts From 405 Tonight
The crowd was pretty dejected midway through the second. The PA noticed and played the “Unleash The Fury” video then to get things going. Orlov’s goal helped the mood a lot. MP85 was working really hard and pestering Sharks all night. The Captain wasn’t moving his feet as much as I’d like and staying out long during the PP, but he did drive the team well, consistently. I thought the PP looked good, just unable to convert, still passing a bit much, but more meticulously than aimlessly. That said, generally, there were a lot of passes to nobody. I liked how Ward looked tonight, and Schultz too (even if he is only out there to up his trade value).
Holtby looked awful skittish. He made a few impressive saves, and his skate-out to prevent a 1-on-0 breakaway was smart, but overall he was just brutally bad. He needed to make saves on at least 3 of those goals. This was also my first live game since DH32 became coach … (pause) … I don’t think it was Boudreau’s fault … (pause) … but I don’t know what Hunter is thinking yet.
The upside I see, the team didn’t quit out there tonight. Now if those scoring chances would just convert.
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
Holtby really wasn’t that bad. Maybe 1 or 2 of the goals could have been stopped, but that’s about it. 1st goal was a fluke that was bouncing like crazy – practically impossible to stop without a lot of luck. He maybe could have gotten his body behind it, but there wasn’t much else he could do about it. 2nd goal deflected off Alzner right to Pavelski in front – nothing Holtby could do about it. 3rd goal was tipped so it bounced over him – he was in position to defend the original shot, but wasn’t much else he could do. 4th goal, he was completely screened – he never saw the shot. He probably could have gotten the pads in place to stop the 5th goal, but that is as much on the dmen who left Marleau all alone.
Failure is always an option.
The first shot, Holtby should definitely have tried to get his body in front of, but instead tried to make the glove snatch and missed. He could have blocked that with his chest. The others may have been difficult, but I think when the goalie has a chance to make the save, he should make most of them. Two of the other four were bad. I discount the Pavelski tap-in and the screened goal, but the other two, he should have had at least one of, especially the one that crawled over him and was tapped in by Marleau. So I think I could have expected a goalie to have given up three goals facing what Holtby faced this evening, not five. Discounting game effects a moment, that would have given the team a shot at taking it to OT. Holtby played a game that was below what I expectfrom a Capitals goaltender. If that’s a bad game, and I think it is, he played a bad game. However, as a minor league goaltender called up on short notice, given the start on short notice, the night after having played with his AHL team, I don’t hold it against Holtby. He was far from the only one to make mistakes. It’s just that most of the time, other’s mistakes don’t directly result in goals. When a goalie makes mistakes, bad things happen.
The team played sloppy and made mistakes, including the goaltender. And the coach. I think the decision to play Rechlicz and sit Knuble was silly. But, while Knuble has been… diplomatic about the situation with the media, consummate professional but honest, I don’t know what has gone on or been said behind the scenes between Knuble and the coaching staff. But, they looked better than they have in some wins where they were badly outworked, outpossessed, outshot, and had their asses saved by Vokoun. And if Neuvirth was healthy, the decision to play Holtby is strange. I know Neuvy just played last night, but so did Holtby, so that rationale doesn’t work.
So, they made mistakes, but over the last few games, I have liked the way they looked better than some stretches earlier in Hunter’s regime, and Boudreau’s too for that matter. What I find strange is that a lot of the talk of the Caps not having the weapons seems to be based on production this year. But based on track record, even from last year which was a regression offensively from previous years, they do have weapons. They have just either misfired or, more often, left the gun on their shoulder. These last few games, they have been firing, though the PDO regression is to be expected, I don’t think a plummet is necessarily expected. I think it will rise from the last two games and if they continue to work like this, they will compete and stay in contention (and relevant). The big problem is that right now they are missing their most important weapon, and a second significant weapon. Backstrom makes this team go at 5-on-5, and Green makes it go on the PP. With both out, both units are misfiring. If this team can get Backstrom back with any season left, it should make the playoffs and could surprise some teams. If it can get both back, and continue to work like they have the last few games, they can still contend. Without either, they may struggle to make the playoffs, but I don’t see them winning a round. Even with a healthy Green back, I don’t see them as a contender without a healthy Backstrom.
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The Marleau tap in is the one I’m most upset about. That first goal was coming in hot and skipped twice. It’s easy to say “get your chest in front of it” from the couch, but that’s a nightmare of a play to make. Bouncing pucks are completely unpredictable. If he slides left to “get his chest in front of it” the puck could easily skip right and go into the open side, in which case he looks just as bad, or worse. It’s just a tough play.
Please, call me F&B.
I totally agree – even if he “rises up with the shot” as DH said a more experienced Goalie would do (way to throw your guy under the bus by the way) – it could just have easily NOT bounced up in a weird way and gone through his legs. then he looks like a complete dolt!
It’s the classic 100-year event that happens 3 time in a couple of weeks.
I think the key here is what is DH32 thinking. I don’t understand why you play Holtby and Rechlicz in the line up was a joke. I was there tonight too and was surprised when Unleash the Fury came on so early. I left when it was 5-1 I just couldn’t take the crowd anymore. I’m sorry I missed the other 2 goals we scored. I hope our upcoming road trip will be better.
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by caps_shutterbug on Feb 13, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
It made sense for a number of reasons save one.
1. Hershey-watchers can presume that French had gotten the word to get Holts more starts. He’s been working 2 out of all the three-in-threes for a while now.
2. The Caps would prolly have brought him up earlier, except their goalie corps has actually been healthy.
3. Tomas caught a fairly ugly flu, and Imma guess they want to keep him as far away from the rest of the team as possible.
4. Word at Verizon was Neuvy was also under the weather.
5. The Hershey and Caps schedules seemed to work in favor of this callup. Holtby could stay up with the Caps for a couple days to practice with the team. Both teams are headed out at the end of the week on long roadies. If TV29 or MN30 remained ill, they could keep Holtby and let Grubauer get some time with the Bears.
6. The miscalculation was the quick turnanround from the Bears’ game last night – a big emotional win over the Baby Pens and a 30+ save near-shutout. Oh, and they had the jersey auction after, and Holtby is always in demand at those things. In hindsight, they maybe should have called up Sabourin.
7. The crowd was REALLY happy to see Braden. Huge cheers for him.
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I just re read my post and I did not mean that Holtby being called up was a joke, I understand his call up. If Neuvy was under the weather then by all means play Holtby but if he is not I think we should have given him a shot. I love watching Holtby play but tonight it was hard.
The joke comment was meant for the Rechlicz call up.
And I agree with all your points above thanks
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by caps_shutterbug on Feb 13, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
I figured as much. My jaw hit the floor when I heard Wrecker was back up and I ran for the Sharks roster, looking hard for the pest/agitator/enforcer that Joel was s’posed to match up with. And I laughed, bitterly, when he tried to get something going with … Douglas Murray. Right, Recker.
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I was watching him on the bench jawing with one of the SJ players and then the ref. I was not surprised when he was called for the 10 minute misconduct. At least we didn’t miss him when he was off.
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by caps_shutterbug on Feb 13, 2012 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
My fiance was watching the game with me for a few minutes and she’s starting to pick up more and more on caps hockey and she goes “Who is that guy? I haven’t heard you talk about him before.” I told her he was there to fight someone, but if it was going to be McGinn or Murray, he’d just get his ass beat.
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by KillerTestudo on Feb 13, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
He could have probably taken on Clowe, the Sharks’ version of a Lucic type
by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 13, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
Winchester was taking liberties against Semin and Ovi during the first game in SJ. I don’t have Vs so I couldn’t watch the game today. How did Winchester behave today? Teams take so many liberties against the Caps that to be honest I don’t mind having Rechlicz in the lineup for certain games. Is not like Hunter gives a ton of ice time to his fourth line guys anyway so I don’t see the harm in this decision and I rather have Rechlicz fighting or jumping guys and spending time in the penalty box than Ovi.
Just over seven minutes into the third period, San Jose winger Brad Winchester was looking to make an impact as his team — up 3-2 at the time — looked to put the visiting Capitals away. Within a matter of seconds, he laid out a hit on Alex Ovechkin then stepped up against Alexander Semin.
The latter drew a charging penalty, but before play halted Ovechkin confronted Winchester and knocked the Sharks’ forward to the ice.
"He almost got me before that, a couple seconds [before]. Then he got Semin. I was trying to protect my teammate, so I tried," said Ovechkin, who was asked if he thought Winchester’s hit on Semin was dirty. "No, it was I think good hit, but I think he makes a couple more extra steps. It’s kind of situation when you have step up for the other guys."
For his retribution against Winchester, Ovechkin received a roughing minor and during the 4-on-4 play that followed Marc-Edouard Vlasic scored to put the Sharks ahead 4-2, 8:51 into the third.
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by CapsFan2020 on Feb 14, 2012 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
While bringing up Holtby wasn’t a joke, IMHO, he was not really as rested as we would ideally want. But as for bringing up Rechlisz, that was a joke. I wondered what on Earth DH was thinking that he was really a better option to use in our lineup than either Knuble or Aucoin. I know that if I were in Knuble’s shoes tonight, I would be ready to throw something against the wall. Seriously.
Like you, I decided to leave when the score was 5-1. It was getting late and I figured there was no way on Earth the Caps would come back & win.
And now we can officially declare me a glutton for punishment since I’m attending the next two games on the road for a long weekend trip (and couple of extra days) to Florida for the road trip.
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When I was in the Metro station a young boy asked his dad “What if they come back and win and we aren’t there” Dad “well then we will have missed the most awsome game ever”
When I saw the score was 5-3 I started to regret my leaving.
Enjoy the road games, maybe you being there will bring them luck.
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by caps_shutterbug on Feb 13, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
Me, bring the Caps luck. Me? I’m the kid who’s #1 favorite hockey team and #2 favorite hockey team have never won the Cup, even in Presidents’ Trophy years.
(Well, would be nice if that could turn around. Or does my luck only apply occasionally for baseball teams and swim teams?)
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Well here’s to turning things around :)
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by caps_shutterbug on Feb 13, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
In my worst moments, I wonder if I were an obnoxious fan of a dynasty team in my last life, such as the Roman Hammerlicks back in Ancient Rome and I’m paying for it now. Or, before I came to Earth for this life, I was asked to choose which sport I would root for successful teams in and chose baseball.
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Well I am not sure how old you are, but you could be like my dad who bought season tickets in 1974 when the Caps started and went to almost every game until the moved to VC. Now he watches and waits for the Caps to get that elusive cup. I hope he will see it in his life time. He is 84 and a true fan.
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by caps_shutterbug on Feb 13, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
I started following the Caps their 2nd year of their existence, after graduation from college, although I’ve only had season tickets the last 3 years or so. Nope, not as old as your dad. Actually, your dad is pretty close to my dad’s age as my dad turned 87 last month. You’re probably slightly younger than me, I would guess.
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I wish I had been more into hockey in the early days but my dad and brother went to most of the games. My husband and I had season tickets in the late 80’s. Watched them off and on and it wasn’t until we went to a game for my birthday in Jan of 2009 that I rekindled my love of the game. Well actually my older daughter fell in love with the game and has pulled me right in. She was the one who got me to this site. I love the game and this site has made it more enjoyable. As far as baseball, my dad and I went to Senators games, so I guess we are in the same boat with teams who don’t get to big show.
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by caps_shutterbug on Feb 14, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
I had gone to Senators games as well, before they left town. I started off as a Cardinals fan since that’s where I got hooked on sports in general and baseball in particular. Then moved to the DC area in 1966 and started following the Senators as well.
I followed the Blues, from afar, when they started out as there was no hockey team in the DC area. Went off to college, came back in 1975 and one day, my then boyfriend suggested going to the Caps game back in Nov 1975. They lost 2-0. Back then, the Caps were about my age. Now, they’re the age of my kids (and, of course, I’m most attached to the one’s the same age as my first born, which is why their problems hit me so hard.)
How old’s your elder daughter?
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22 she graduates from college this spring. I have 20 year old daughter also.
The older daughter is Hockeydragon, on this site.
Mostly I have been in Montgomery county since Kindergarten. so Washington Sports teams have been my favs. However I am no longer a bit FB fan and I hate basketball, pros anyway, will watch college ball.
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by caps_shutterbug on Feb 14, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
Of my girls, the eldest turns 27 next week. While my younger one is 20 and will turn 21 in April.
I’m less interested in football than before. While basketball is fun to watch at times, I’ve been less interested it in before. I used to go to many more basketball games during the late 70’s and early 80s. We probably did about an equal number of Caps and Bullets games then, but only on the weekends
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Are your kids big hockey fans?
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by caps_shutterbug on Feb 14, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
My elder one loved the Mighty Ducks movies even if she never followed the game closely. My younger one claims to dislike the game but once had some people over to the house when we were at a playoff game and guess what they did.
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My younger daughter was supposed to go with me tonight but couldn’t because of a class. The older one is in Lancaster so she doesn’t get to come down often for games.
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by caps_shutterbug on Feb 14, 2012 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
I brought my firstborn (and her boyfriend) to the Nashville game this year. They live in Ireland (as he’s Irish) so they can’t get to games often, obviously.
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Very cool. My younger daughters boyfriend is a Buffalo fan. I give him some slack since his family is from there. Well I have a physical at 0800 so it is off to bed I go. It has been great chating and I look forward to doing it again. Good night
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by caps_shutterbug on Feb 14, 2012 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
CF75, these types of extracurricular discussions which you seem to initiate need to stay out of recaps and Clips threads.
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 14, 2012 6:59 AM EST up reply actions
JP can relax. One Caps player makes beautiful tape-to-tape passes.
Too bad it’s the call-up goalie. Could watch Braden pass the puck all night.
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I would rather see him stop pucks
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by caps_shutterbug on Feb 13, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
@SkyKerstein: #Caps Hunter “Neuvy played the night before there and so we figured he hasn’t played much of a back-to-back, Holtby’s ready to go”
And
@bmcnally14: Holtby on recall/start: “They could tell me 10 minutes bf the game and I’d take it, try + be as prepared as I could. That’s not the factor”
It’s up to the coach to know whether a player is truly ready to go. Of course Holtby is going say whatever it takes to get playing time. And Holtby played yesterday as well, and much later. And he drove down today. And didn’t get to practice. But he’s not going to say those were factors and I don’t blame him. The loss was not completely his fault. But I doubt he was as rested or prepared as he could have been. He wasn’t in the best position to help the team, IMO.
by jopierce on Feb 13, 2012 11:30 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
On the goalie situation, no matter whether we used Holtby or Neuvirth, it was a no win situation. We had a choice between two goalies who were essentially doing back to backs. Neuvy had gone against the Rangers yesterday just after noon. While Holtby had gone against Hershey at 5:00 pm. So, we were going with a goalie on short rest no matter what. Vokes was obviously too sick to go.
That was my main concern with Holtby today vis a vis Neuvirth — the fact that he had even less rest than Neuvy. While Holtby had done very well in Hershey yesterday, still no rest. We don’t have a goalie like Lundqvist who’s effective in back to backs.
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No offense … but Sharks fans suck
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by TheFuryUnleashed on Feb 13, 2012 11:53 PM EST reply actions
They were pretty offensive, that’s for sure.
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What happened?
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 14, 2012 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
I can think of many worse fan bases than Sharks fans. But, is it my imagination or does Washington attract more fans of the opposite team? I hear Cowboys stadium doesn’t attract opposing fans. I swear, if they created an expansion team called the Mississippi Mudhens, people would show up to Caps games wearing a Mudhens jersey since they had grown up in Mississippi even if they had left it 10 or more years ago. (Felt like that at the Jets game last week.)
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its so much less enjoyable watching a Dale Hunter coached Caps team. most of the time they are just bad, but even when they win its not fun.
they made the mistake of firing a coach midseason already, They need to fire Hunter now and salvage the season
It’s not worth it to fire Hunter unless there’s a better replacement out there. Firing the coach just to fire the coach is not a smart strategy.
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I know it doesnt make sense to fire a coach midseason, the boudreau firing was a huge mistake on timing alone.
but bring in a coach who will let them loose. our defense is WORSE with this trap, and its making the game much less enjoyable to watch.
the only time they score is on the rush or when they break away from the cycle/dump and chase. its bad when the offense is more productive when the deviate from the gameplan.
Well if the Hawks axe Coach Q
Then I would wholeheartedly encourage the Caps to scoop him up ASAP.
But yeah, I agree with you, removing the head coach at this point in the season would be waving a huge white flag unless GMGM now really believes in Mark French’s skills.
Has anyone noted we got all our o-ffense from our de-fense tonight? And that for all the grief we give to the Caps for giving up guys’ 1st and 2nd goals, Thomas Greiss gave up a season’s first goal to Schultz, and the season’s second to both Dima and Roman.
In other news, Roman scored his :: second :: goal of the year tonight.
Le sigh.
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well when you only play 5 games in a season ….
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by TheFuryUnleashed on Feb 14, 2012 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
GMGM is delusional
Yeah that doesn’t look good.
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by KillerTestudo on Feb 14, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
Of course that article was written and published on line before tonight’s game. I saw it on the Internet on my phone just prior to the game.
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Even still, if GMGM thinks this team is just a healthy Backstrom and Green away from a Stanley Cup before the game, its a safe bet he still thinks it now.
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by KillerTestudo on Feb 14, 2012 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly…unless there’s a 2C coming from somewhere we don’t know about, what the heck is he talking about? We’re barely a playoff contender, let alone a SC contender…
by OvechkinGR8 on Feb 14, 2012 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
Crazy talk , we’re definitely SC caliber based on tonight’s game.
I’m quite sure that crazy 1st goal will be on SC if it hasn’t been already
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by Icebat on Feb 14, 2012 12:32 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Seems a bit harsh
Looking through the article, it seems to be what one would expect from front office officials to the media. I mean, since when has GMGM actually slammed the team in public. Besides I can’t imagine a worse strategy for the deadline than coming in, telling Feinstein something along the lines of “this team stinks and I have no one to sell”.
All that said, I have to think that if the Caps don’t make the playoffs, a serious change in direction needs to be considered, namely one that involves begging/bribing Scotty Bowman to lend his magic winning powers here.
by LoungeAct09 on Feb 14, 2012 12:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It’s so mind boggling to me how our relatively young core (Ovi, Semin & company) just seemed to fall apart so fast. While the Sharks and Red Wings continue to contend year after year with an older core group. Is the problem with our team that people associated with freak out so quickly, as my husband suggested tonight? (People meaning the Caps management and players, as opposed to the fan base.)
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by KillerTestudo on Feb 14, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
You should throw in an “enigmatic” just for good measure
by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 14, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
so holtby played like a promising prospect.
I only saw the first 4 goals before I turned off my feed, but there were 3 rookie mistakes among them. I think Holtby is the goaltender of the future, but the future is not yet here.
It probably didn’t help that he was playing back to backs and was pressed into service at the last minute. He was even less rested than Neuvy.
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He played Friday in Syracuse, backed up Saturday in HER, played Sunday in HER, and Monday in DC with almost no notice.
I would have liked a better outing tonight, but some of that was on his, y’know, teammates. Convert a couple of those early chances and he would have been a hero.
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…and the local newscast does a Sports Highlight of the Night. And tonight their highlight was the 110 foot goal by the Sharks.
Oy.
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When we had Varly, Neuvy, and Holtby was I the only one who thought Holtby had the highest ceiling?
Because I still do… Obviously last night wasn’t great but it was mostly unlucky. To be honest I’m surprised he hasn’t been brought up earlier this year and hope he sticks around for awhile.
After typing that I realize I probably missed something and maybe he’s gone back down already…
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