Sunday Caps Clips: Milestone Night
by EmilyB on Dec 4, 2011 11:02 AM EST
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Your savory breakfast links:
- Recaps and other assorted musings on last night's overtime win from us, Caps365 video (Hunter, players), Vogs, Capitals Voice (audio), NHL.com, WaPo (gamer, blog, blog), WashTimes (gamer, blog, blog), CSN Washington (gamer, blog, highlights (video), Beninati), DCEx (blog), 106.7 The Fan, Peerless, Frankovic, KOL, OFB, RtR, RLS, Caps Degenerate, RMNB and clydeorama (pics), Caps by Puck (pics), and from the Sens' side of the ledger, Montreal Gazette, Silver Seven, ProSportsBlogging.
- Five hundred games apiece for Alex Ovechkin and Brooks Laich. Congratulations! [Caps365 (video), @NHL.com, Caps Overtime, Caps Outsider, Alex Ovetjkin, Brooks Laich's webblog]
- Four milestones, four pucks. [Caps Overtime]
- Oh hai there Nats OF Jayson Werth, chillaxing at Sens-Caps. [Nats Enquirer via @GlennGiangrande]
- Notes and assorted whatnot from yesterday out at Kettler:
- In general. [Caps365 video (Kettler Report, Hunter, Beagle), 106.7 The Fan (audio), sk84fun_dc (pics)]
- Wait. Jay Beagle spoke? Yes, and he skated too. Huzzah! [WashTimes, DCEx]
- So why was Alexander Semin doing the scratches skate? Hint: It wasn't the healthy scratches skate. [WashTimes, WaPo, CSNW]
- And in further injury news, Coach Hunter says it is unlikely that Mike Green will join the team on their roadie... [@ChuckGormleyCSN]
- ... while Roman Hamrlik continues day-to-day with LBI. [WashTimes]
- Buckle Your Seatbelts Alert: Borderline defamatory speculation as to what's wrong with The Cap'n. [Oberver-Reporter.com]
- NHL realignment is on the horizon. Here's the latest on what it might look like for the Caps. [Puck Daddy, WashTimes]
- The Hershey Bears had a rollicking 7-1 win over Portland yesterday on Teddy Bear Toss night ... [SHoE (gamer, pics), Caps Outsider]
- ... although centerman Keith Aucoin reports he may have sustained a UBI in the game. [@coiner11]
- Finally, happy 28th birthday to Patrick Wellar.
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I feel extremely dirty for giving the Observer-Reporter a page view. I didn’t realize they had tabloid publications in Western PA.
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by Carl Putnam on Dec 4, 2011 11:09 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
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by EmilyB on Dec 4, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Did John Steigerwald write such an unsubstantiated and unethical smear job of an article because he’s on methamphetamine withdrawal?
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 4, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Not his best piece of yard abandonment.
"My favorite fan base in D.C. Is United's. Period. The end." - Steinberg
Keep United in DC. A Fair Deal at RFK, and a Pathway to a Stadium for a team loyal to the city.
by Bald Pollack on Dec 4, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
I find that offensive. Ron Burgandy is awesome on all levels.
Please, call me F&B.
by Rob Parker on Dec 4, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Hey, cause it's you ;)
No, I don't think I'll ever get over Macho Grande
by Icebat on Dec 4, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sick pull hahaha
Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.
by Davethecapsfan on Dec 4, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, me too. Shame on us for adding to their page views.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
I disagree with the sentiment and expected some of it. We shouldn’t pretend that “journalism” like that doesn’t exist, or it’ll just increase in prevalence. I think it’s important to read that crap and tear the shit out of it and its purveyors.
I wholeheartedly approve of Em including it in today’s Clips.
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I meant it a little bit in the “I feel shame” way. But honestly, I don’t know if it’s worse to link to it and attempt to show it for the garbage it is, or if eveyone could ignore it to not give the guy the satisfaction. The “shock jock” effect.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
This is the internet. Someone was going to find it.
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See, the thing is that it’s been torn apart before. In his world we shouldn’t wear our teams’ jerseys to opposing team arenas because it’ll be our fault if we get curb stomped.
In between Errey’s comment last week and this, I’m glad* we willingly devour red meat like this to get unnecessarily worked up. And by glad I mean whatever the opposite of what glad is.
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by Bald Pollack on Dec 4, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure how unnecessary it is to be made aware that explosive allegations lobbed at the franchise player for the team we all follow exist in semi-credible (and perhaps wholly credible) forums. I take it you’d have left it out of Clips altogether?
Moreover, not every reaction is a “worked up” one – saying Errey’s a douche for his actions in a press scrum doesn’t mean anyone’s blood pressure is raised.
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I think considering how much of a fool he’s made out of himself nationally in the last 8 months on his own, it would have been better to omit it from Clips and keep him (and this vitriol you’re calling allegations) within Washington and Greene counties.
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by Bald Pollack on Dec 4, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
I guess that’s fair (though I had no idea about the Stow stuff until after we ran this). It certainly wasn’t a slam-dunk decision to run it and definitely not one that we were thrilled to see come up.
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John Steigerwald is a bomb thrower whose heretofore biggest claim to fame might have been blaming Bryan Stow for his own beating after a Giants-Dodgers baseball game (he misspelled Stow’s name in the piece, no longer available from the O-R Web site). The only “fact” in which he ever seems interested in his “reporting” is that his name be spelled right by those who would refer to him. The only “whispers and maybe even some out-loud conversations around the hockey world” he hears are those in his own head.
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sk84fun says brothers.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Get out. That is awesome. Really.
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Not really. They’re both awful at their jobs.
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by The Moose on Dec 4, 2011 1:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You know, he’s got a point:
2006-07 – 85 points
2007-08 – 106 points
2008-09 – 113 points
2009-10 – 77 points, and an appearance at the winter olympics
2010-11 – 37 points
Granted, he’s had injury problems that caused some point declines, but we all know that one of the biggest benefits of steroids is to help you recover from injuries faster. Yup, that olympic appearance seems to have been the turning point when this player quit juicing.
Wait, Ovechkin you say? No, this isn’t Alex Ovechkin. It’s Evgeni Malkin…
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 4, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 9 recs
More Circumstantial Evidence for You to Consider
Circumstantial evidence, your honor. Doctors, chiropractors, George Laracque (sic). The case against Ovechkin is clear. But, if that’s not enough. I give you more.
Thierry Henry. Roger Federer. Tiger Woods. Derek Jeter. Kaka. Alex Ovechkin. That is all you need to know.
All these athletes saw a drop off in performance after becoming pitchmen for Gillette:
- After the infamous non-handball call against Ireland, Henry is now relegated to MLS, a huge drop off for a World Cup hero.
- Federer is now ranked 3rd after years at number 1.
- Woods, nuff said.
- Jeter suffered through injuries and one of his worst pro seasons ever in 2011.
- Kaka got ejected from a game vs. Ivory Coast in the 2010 World Cup, and Brazil flamed out against the Netherlands.
- Alex Ovechkin.
Your honor. If the PEDs circumstantial evidence isn’t sufficient, I offer the Gillette evidence as an alternative. The athletes I listed all suffered a career downturn when associated with Gillette. You can’t ignore it.
I am sure Steigerwald will write about this shortly and am, quite frankly, shocked he’s ignored it thus far.
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by STLSpidey on Dec 4, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions 9 recs
Visualizing Realignment
If you ask me, I dig it. There’s one obvious problem — the Western Conference has 16 teams and the Eastern Conference has 14. But that can be easily solved by shifting Detroit or Columbus on over — assuming Phoenix doesn’t move to Hamilton.
Sure beats the lazy realignment, anyway.
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There is no perfect answer to realignment but I understand why the Florida teams may have an issue with this proposal. Sure Detroit and Dallas, for two examples, have had to deal with geographic issues with the current alignment, but sure not favorable for the Florida teams (other than not a time zone issue.)
I think the Panthers ownership will love it actually. They will draw extremely well with those division opponents.
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Donny from LBC probably could add to this, but I would think based on snowbird population the Habs, Leafs, Sabres, and Bruins would all draw well.
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It makes it hard for the Florida teams to build natural rivalries if they’re that far away. To me, it looks like the Florida teams were added as an afterthought.
by jopierce on Dec 4, 2011 11:19 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
not added as an afterthought, imo. “sacrificed” to win the support of the old Patrick teams. The existing Atlantic has been very vocal that they will block any proposal to split them up. This configuration also buys Washington’s support.
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That division with Florida and Tampa Bay makes some sense, looks ridiculous. The only more ridiculous divisions I’ve seen are a handful of congressional districts.
Of course, you could move Columbus to the east, and then have a northeastern division with BOS, MTL, OTT, TOR, BUF, NYR, NYI, and NJD, with a southern division of WSH, PHI, PIT, CBJ, CAR, TBL, FLA. That avoids splitting any traditional rivalries (as much as NBC might be trying to sell the world on a NYR-PHI rivalry, and as much as Devils fans might think they have a rivalry with the Flyers), while also evening up the conferences and the divisions.
Reporter: "What’s your Mom’s birthday?"
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Well they are also getting away from “Eastern” and “Western” and the first two rounds of the playoffs are in the division, then the 4 winners are re-seeded 1-4. So the only real issue would be that some divisions are 7 and some are 8, it’s a bit unfair for those that have 8 (I’m not personally all that concerned with that.)
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Yeah, I just don’t know how you get around that. If that extra team in the division makes the difference, then you aren’t a contender anyway, IMO. Obviously it’s not that simple, some owners would love to just have an inside chance to get 1 playoff round and the revenue, even if they aren’t contenders.
I just don’t want to let the perfect get in the way of the good here. This is by far the best alignment proposal I’ve seen. And if they want to expand to 32 for 4 divisions of 8, they can do that in the future. Now is obviously not the time for it.
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Up to 32 or down to 28 …
Agree there is a lot of good in the 4 division proposals, several versions of which we have seen discussed the last few months.
I don’t think down to 28 is ever going to happen. The owners and the union will fight that tooth and nail.
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And I have a hard time believing that two more teams will happen, either. That means Phoenix stays and you have to build two new teams during a down economy and hope there are fans to support them. There are only a handful of cities where it could be stable. To even out the divisions they would have to both be in the East, which would make Quebec City proponents happy. But the Florida teams just don’t make sense where they are, so even though the realignment for Caps fans is great, it’s more balanced if the Floridas moved back to be in the same division as the Caps, just because of geography. The Florida GMs will never go for a realignment that puts nearly an entire coast between them and their division opponents.
by jopierce on Dec 4, 2011 12:15 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Well I said now is obviously not the right time. I also don’t see why it has to mean that PHX stays where they are. And in terms of building new teams, Kansas City already has an arena and is looking for a team. That means you’d just need one more ownership group to bring a team somewhere. I don’t think that’s unrealistic when the economy rebounds.
I also think it’s presumptive to assume what the FL owners will accept. If the ticket sales increase because of the snowbird populations then I think they might be ok with it.
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The GM’s may not like it, but their owners, one of whom is from Boston I would add, may. Even with a slight increase in travel costs they would likely wind up making more money with this alignment from ticket sales.
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I like the division realigment proposal, hate the proposed playoff change. Are the Stanley Cup Playoffs not good enough now? What am I missing?
Divisional playoffs create rivalries? I thought that was the preferred format, since creating new rivalries now is tough.
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by red army line on Dec 4, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
I love, love, love having teams have to play out of the Division (or Conference or whatever they want to call it) in the playoffs.
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There is a better chance the Caps meet the Rangers in the first round, I’d think, as well.
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by red army line on Dec 4, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wait, how do you do 4 conferences and no divisions? What’s the playoff format they’re considering?
Who plays who for the Cup?
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 4, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
They do two rounds “in conference(which is really division)” and then they re-seed the four conference winners 1-4 and have them do a final-four playoffs.
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Wow.
And I guess you play something like 30ish games against your own Divonference and 15ish against each other Confvision each year (and yes, I know that adds up to 75).
In other words, two home and away series within your own Condivonference each year is 24-28 games. One home and away series against everyone in the other Divonfvisions: 44-46 games per year. Spread the remaining 10 or so in whatever way makes sense.
I think I like it. But I’m not sure.
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 4, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
Pulling from my post in the Recap last night, I was guessing about how they would allocate the remaining 24 games after the 58 home-and-home games. It would be either 2 or 3 in-conference games (in addition to the 2 from the home-and-home), with a hypothetical schedule as follows:
Two Additional In-Conf. Game Sched.
7T-Conf Team
2g vs ea in-conf team = 12g
1g vs ea team of an 8T-conf = 8g
4g vs the other 7T-conf = 4g
8T-Conf Team
2g vs ea in-conf team = 14g
1g vs ea team of an 7T-conf = 7g
3g vs the other 8T-conf = 3g
Three Additional In-Conf. Game Sched.
7T-Conf Team
3g vs ea in-conf team = 18g
6g vs the other 7T-conf = 6g
8T-Conf Team
3g vs ea in-conf team = 21g
3g vs the other 8T-conf = 3g
Our it could just be the rest of the games in your own conference, but that would be a little too repetitive for me. I’d like the Caps to play the Bruins more than twice a year, and maybe get to see the Red Wings or the Sharks for an extra engagement every other year.
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With two rounds of in-conference playoffs, I think you really need to make a heavy in-conference schedule. That playoff format makes conference play much more important so I think you need to reward that. Trying to do a balanced schedule with imbalanced conferences exacerbates the unfair nature of 7 v. 8 team conferences. In a conference-heavy schedule where the top 4 teams in the conference make the playoffs I think it’s ok to have imbalanced conferences. Of course, there will be a lot of repetition, and some serious hatred, which is cool.
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I get that point. To keep the 7T and 8T Conferences equal in each team’s opportunity to get to the playoffs, I’d advocate the “3 additional games vs each in-conference team” approach, so that you don’t have the 8T Conf teams complaining that it takes more games to secure a playoff spot than in the 7T Conf. And 6 or 3 extra out-of-conference games would give the NHL some marketing flexibility too.
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The schedule plan I’ve heard is that all teams play a home-and-home with everyone not in conference and the rest are in conference:
7 team conference: 2 vs. non-conf opponents: 46, 6 vs conf opponents: 36, Total is 82
8 team conference: 2 vs. non-conf opponents: 44, 5 vs. conf opponents: 35 for 79, then 3 additional games in the half of the conference from the prev. year’s finish, meaning the first through fourth place teams would play an additional game against each other, ditto for the fifth through eighth place. That way each team gets an additional 3 games, bringing the total to 82.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 4, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
Wouldn’t it make more sense to swap Winnipeg and Nashville? That won’t happen though, as the league is so in love with Detroit…
by David C. Rothman on Dec 4, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Great as this is an all… what happens if/when PHX moves to QBC?
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There is no Eastern and Western Conference in this alignment. All four divisions are conferences in their own right. The imbalance means that in an 8 team division, 4 teams miss the playoffs and in a 7 team division, only 3 do.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 4, 2011 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
I would be inclined to stick Detroit with the Northeast teams and Columbus with the old Patrick Division teams. But then the Central would need another team to join them. I would choose Colorado but they might not be happy to be away from the other teams in the Mountain Standard time zone.
I would have also been inclined to have broken out the East differently but, given that they want to keep the old Atlantic and Northeast divisions intact, that won’t happen.
Of course, realignment would be a lot simpler if two teams in the West were added but the current economic climate with a recession and NHL franchises currently in trouble makes that option unfeasible.
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Here’s all you need to read to get a sense for the quality of that Ovi article:
Ovechkin hasn’t been the same since the Russians’ early exit in the 2008 Winter Olympics.
2008? Was Ovi in Beijing? Must be slumping after getting his ass liked by Michael Phelps.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
Err. Kicked.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 4, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think the warning was strong enough! That article is infuriating! Retraction, apology, face wash, many responses come to mind.
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by can't skate on Dec 4, 2011 11:18 AM EST via mobile reply actions
wait, so did Bakersfield have a Teddy Bear toss last night too, or did TWWL just screw up?
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No, I believe they had theirs last month.
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Found the date. Last Saturday night – 11/26.
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SC showed video of it this morning, and said it was the Condors :(
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I’ll add this to today’s conversation:
adater 17 hours ago
Capitals might still get that lottery pick next year – their own choice
Dater is up there with Milbury in his evident Cap-hatred. I tune him out.
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My comment wasn’t aimed at you. He irritates me more than most I dislike because of his arrogance. Of course given the publication he works for its no surprise. They seem to breed arrogance there.
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This from a guy whose team is 24th in the league and with the two teams just behind it holding games in hand? Guess he’s feeling all fat and happy because the Avs won two in a row for the first time in almost two months. “Adrian Dater” is an anagram for “dead air rant”
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by ThePeerless on Dec 4, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions 9 recs
The Hershey Bears play this afternoon at Bridgeport. Nice to see Potulny healthy and contributing…I have seen some questions/discussion about possible recalls from Hershey and if Potulny is healthy and playing well, I’d put his name on the list.
Hope they have something left after their beat down of the Baby Yotes last night.
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Definitely sounded like a fun game for the home fans last night. A bus trip and 3pm road game as the end to a 3 in 3 isn’t a recipe for a good game today, but hopefully they still find a way to win. Brdigeport is also playing 3 in 3, but the schedule was more favorable to getting a little rest. Friday away at Albany, Saturday home, Sunday home. Hershey played Friday at Syracuse, Saturday at home.
Holtby played well on Friday and didn’t face too many shots, then backed up last night so he should be fresh.
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Yup. Sounds like the Teddy Bear toss was crazy as well. They didn’t even finish the period.
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Kuznetsov – (thanks to poster Langway posting this on other boards) I liked reading Murray’s comments, but there’s so much wrong with the rest of this piece in terms of how the contract process works, ugh.
So Kutznetsov could come over after the new year/juniors tournament?
Interesting…..if so I could see him being interested in that as long as the Capitals kept him up in the NHL. That way he could burn off one year of his entry level deal this year instead of next and be on his way to his big contracts….interesting.
I assume he can’t come over after the WJC and if the article says so that’s probably one of the inaccuracies sk8 referred to.
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Yup, he has played in the KHL since the NHL season started. The NHL CBA states that a player has to clear waivers if they played overseas after the NHL regular season starts…no exception for ELC players exists as far as my understanding. There’s also the issue that he has a KHL contract and the NHL and KHL do have an understanding/agreement about players with contracts.
If anyone is curious about the AHL waiver rule for players playing in Europe (used for Orlov and others in the past, like Joensuu), as Leone reported last year at the time Orlov came over:
From Leone on 2/22/11: “Bears president-GM Doug Yingst said the 6-foot, 197-pounder meets exemption criteria for AHL Bylaw 26, which requires players who begin a season in Europe to return by mid-December to be eligible to play in the AHL, because he is a draft pick who is on Washington’s reserve list.”
I was yelling at the TV a little when Gormley said it on the air. He was also the one to say DH had hired Calle Jo, so between the two, I think his credibility is slipping a little.
by jopierce on Dec 4, 2011 12:19 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
What did he say on the air?
As to the CalleJo, I assume it was a game of ‘telephone’ …Johnson / Johansson
But I didn’t need this to inform my opinion of Gormley, it was already formed based on his collection to date.
He said he could come over after he was done in Russia.
As far as Johnson/Johansson, if I heard what I thought was Johansson I would try very hard to confirm what I heard was actually what was said before I tweeted it. That’s a big goof to make on the Internet.
by jopierce on Dec 4, 2011 12:29 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Great stuff, especially the Bowman talking about Lemaire.
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Boy that piece was packed with relevant tidbits. I noticed the bit at the end which noted that Hockey Canada tried to get Hunter to put his name in for the national junior team head coaching job this summer but refused because an NHL team was interested. Seems safe to assume he and GMGM were already talking. Love the bit about his suit too: "Yeah, one suit (in junior). He’d hang it in the shower to iron it. He’s a beauty."
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by capsyoungguns on Dec 4, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
iirc, someone else tried to convinced Hunter to make the jump to the NHL over the summer, but he turned them down.
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Didn’t know that. Dangers of making assumptions. I do like however that only the Capitals could lure him into making the jump. That and the right timing for both parties.
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by capsyoungguns on Dec 4, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
Ottawa, apparently (just found the article). Bryan Murray tried to get Hunter, shocker. Murray told Ed Frankovic and Ted Starkey that once Hunter turned him down, he knew there was only one team that would be able to lure Hunter into NHL coaching.
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Very sweet. Thanks for the info.
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by capsyoungguns on Dec 4, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
I’m sure Paul MacLean was glad to hear today that he was BM’s second choice…
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 4, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
Bryan told me it was a few years ago so MacLean shouldn’t feel slighted. So I imagine it was after Bryan coached the team and moved to GM or perhaps when he hired Craig Hartsburg out of juniors.
thanks for the clarification, Ed!
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Thanks!
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 4, 2011 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for the link.
Knuble: "I am what I am. I play well with good players."
by capsyoungguns on Dec 4, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
Microchips in fan jerseys, I’m surprised this wasn’t a Leonsis-sponsored gimmick
Discounts are great, but I wonder what else the microchip data is used for????
First and foremost, they can track you all over the arena. Probably in the parking lots, too. Scary.
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– In the middle of talking about the systems of the Western Conference teams he’ll face and the personnel he’ll need to become more acquainted with, Boudreau managed to take a poke at some of the Flyers.
"I knew exactly what Philly was going to do," he said. "I knew the guys that were going to dive and they did. They got away with it. The only one that didn’t get away with it was [Wayne] Simmonds. It looked like he got shot. And he went down until he start peeking and no one was calling it and then he had to get back up.
"[Scott] Hartnell looked like he’d gotten shot by a bazooka. He didn’t miss a shift and then he comes in and scores the tying goal."
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I still love the guy. I hope he never loses the Flyers and Penguin hate.
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by RedBirdie on Dec 4, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
No matter what, BB is someone who is incredibly comfortable with who he is. I’m going to miss his malapropisms and self-deferential sense of humor. As well as his blunt honesty. I laughed at his answer to a reporter asking him how he would feel if his Ducks and the Caps met in the SC finals: that it would be a narrative the media would love. And that he would be happy that he was finally in the finals.
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by capsyoungguns on Dec 4, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
So late in the game last night (was out watching it) I noticed with about 5 minutes left Ovie actually doing the Chimera dump and chase trying to make it a pass to himself, I swear the D man for a full 3-5 seconds didn’t make a move towards the puck and was just shielding Ovechkin from getting past him. Perhaps it wasn’t quite that long, but it sure looked like a clear case of interference to me. Either way I hope to see more of that from the Captain, because if you’re a D man the last thing you want to see is Ovechkin chipping and chasing it by you leaving you the option to either let him get there first or skate hard to get there first and maybe get crushed.
Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.
What’s amazing is that they all learned that play as a mite. The faster kids in mite hockey use that to their advantage again and again and again.
Nice guys finish first, but sometimes the season is awfully long.
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Well I’m not sure the Russians learn that as mites.
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by Rob Parker on Dec 4, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
As mini-mites?
Nice guys finish first, but sometimes the season is awfully long.
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I would LOVE to see some footage of Ovi playing mite hockey.
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no way. he started playing much younger than that.
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Yup, eight or nine as I recall.
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by capsyoungguns on Dec 4, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
sounds right. Still “older” to start hockey. I believe Green is also a late starter.
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I seem to remember that he started skating earlier but that it wasn’t until 8 or 9 that he was on a serious team, and the importance of his brother who at first was the one who took him to practices and many of the games since both of his parents worked. And that remembrance is part of what goes into his kiss to the heaven after every goal. I wish I could remember where I read his early bio but it was years ago. I do remember that I trusted the source(s).
I vaguely recall that Greenie’s dad once said (sometime around one of those father trips) that he had a relatively late start, but whether that mean 6 instead of 3 I didn’t know. Those Canadians seem to live on ice.
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by capsyoungguns on Dec 4, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
Green himself said he didn’t start playing hockey on an organized team until he was 11. The interview he gave to the Calgary radio station during his golf tournament this summer tells the story. That’s one reason why his charities are devoted to giving kids the chance to play, because it literally changed his life.
Good stuff. Thanks for the link. That is late to start.
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by capsyoungguns on Dec 4, 2011 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
I want to see more of it that’s for sure. No D man wants to deal with that multiple times a game.
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by Davethecapsfan on Dec 4, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
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by Bengtnotbroken on Dec 4, 2011 1:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I added it late to the links, but Brooks Laich blogged (a little bit) about his big night.
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NYT is doing a video series on Derek Boogaard and enforcers. First part just went up, and it’s really good.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/12/04/sports/hockey/boogaard-video.html
Article too. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/04/sports/hockey/derek-boogaard-a-boy-learns-to-brawl.html
Part 2 tomorrow and Part 3 the day after
Thanks a ton, this will really help me out for my final position paper in english this semester. I’m writing about whether or not fighting should be legal. Hard to write against fighting since i feel that its a part of the game but we all know the health complications and its nearly impossible to write against player safety.
Here’s my take on that topic. Anyone remember any other Japers fanposts or articles taking a position on whether fighting should be eliminated?
"Fais gros comme moi!" - Alex Ovechkin
by Gould Old Days on Dec 4, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, and there’s got to be some limit on safety. You can’t create a contact sport involving 200 pound men with knives on their feet that is “safe.” The question has to be where the balance lies.
Sports involves adults making a conscious choice to take physical and safety risks. I think it’s totally reasonable to say that people should be allowed to make fistfighting one of those risks. For one thing, I don’t think it’s the most dangerous thing they do.
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 4, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
That was my take after reading the NYT piece. Heartbreaking that his life ended at 28? Of course. But the guy lived his dream, and no one was holding a gun to his head saying “You have to fight”. He knew his way into the NHL was through his fists, and he accepted that. I think Hendricks and/or Bradley have made reference to that reality as well. Granted they both have a bit more skill than Boogey did, but they’re fully aware that part of the reason they’re getting paid to play hockey is their willingness to throw down.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Dec 4, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
I posted this before and thought it was relevant to post again now that we are in December and closer to the relevant dates .
Green’s injury/games missed clock re-set when he played in the 11/11 game. IF he was placed on LTIR, 10 games and 24 days means 12/7 would be the first game he’d be eligible to return. As of now, he’s not on LTIR based on any info. provided, but I think it’s relevant since it relates to if there’s any reason to make a roster move requiring cap space. He has missed 11 games already, but there’s also the 24 day component.
Upcoming games:
12/5/11 Capitals at Panthers
12/7/11 Capitals at Senators
12/9/11 Maple Leafs at Capitals
If we get to 12/7 and Green is still not back, he can be placed on LTIR retroactively, right?
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by red army line on Dec 4, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
He can be placed on LTIR retroactively at any time, yes. Just noting if it happens now, the only issue would be confirming the cap space and roster spot for him, there would be no additional missed time issue other than the next game.
I hope this new system is a bit more exciting than it has been these past three games. I understand that it will take a while for them to adjust and that it should be better suited for the playoffs, but man were the past three games boring (even if they won last night).
The style of hockey that wins playoff games is boring, I think. But it works.
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 4, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
It wasn’t flashy but I like physical, cycling hockey. As long as you aren’t turning the neutral zone into mud and killing any speed I still think it can be enjoyable to watch. It wasn’t even a dump and chase battle the whole game.
Please, call me F&B.
Ovie’s had more highlight-worthy checks in the last three games than possibly the last two years. He “Ka-bonged” the hell outta Colin Greening last night. sweet
Blew him up REAL good.
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And while we all know we pay him to score goals, you can see how the physical side of his game contributes to his overall engagement… there were some of those familiar moments of electricity with him last night
I’d have called the second period “exciting,” with plenty of 2-on-2s and 3-on-3s going back and forth, but it’s also been awhile since I’ve seen Chicago play.
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by red army line on Dec 4, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
Class Picture of Orlov
I found this on a tumbler. It’s a class picture from one of Dmitry Orlov’s classes when he was younger: Dmitry is at the beginning of the 2nd row from the top.
Rocking the Red for teams on the banks of the Potomac and at the Gateway Arch and Singing the Blues about Hockey.
by CapsFan75 on Dec 4, 2011 8:14 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
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