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  • Previews of tonight's party in The 'Peg from Vogs, NHL.com, Peerless, CRtC and RMNB, and be sure to check out our SB Nation partner Arctic Ice Hockey for more coverage from the other side of tonight's match-up.
  • Notes and assorted whatnot from yesterday's practice:
  • After a couple of bad goals and a mid-game netminder change, the spotlight is shining brightly on the Caps' sub-par goaltending. [WaPo, WashTimes, CSNW, Puck Daddy, SB Nation DC]
  • Brooks Laich calls in to The Junkies on the morning after the 5-1 drubbing at the hands of the Flyers. [106.7 The Fan (audio)]
  • Isn't it a bit early into the new guy's tenure for the team to be effort-deficient? [WashTimes, CSNW]
  • Maybe the boys just aren't used to someone being so even-keeled. [DCEx, with more on Dale Hunter and whether or not he's the right man for the job at Capitals Outsider]
  • This is either going to end really, really well... or not so much. [Peerless]
  • A look at numbers, numbers and more numbers (but really, can we trust a post about numbers that claims that the team is one-third of the way through the season, when they're really 29/82 of the way through?!?!). [WaPo]
  • The Caps are searching for ever-elusive consistency (well, the good kind, that is). [KOL]
  • So is their captain. [Peerless]
  • Karl Alzner speaks! (Always a good thing.) [Capitals Outsider]
  • Three things that are killing the Caps... [DSP]
  • ... and two players that are (in differing degrees). [THN]
  • The Caps have struggled so far north of the border. [Dump 'n Chase]
  • Frustration mounts in the fan base. [RMNB, Chirps]
  • Minor fleecing alert: the Caps may have gotten a steal when they swapped Francois Bouchard for Tomas Kundratek. [PA Puck (h/t sk8)]
  • Over in SoCal, Bruce Boudreau is adjusting to life as the head quacker. [NHL.com]
  • Finally, happy 27th birthday to Kyle Wilson.

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Gee, nothing like having 2 of the Top 3 in the Underachieving Department (THN). According to Neil’s article in the WaPo, both of them have low PDO (Ovi with 966 and Semin with 968) so the expectation is that they should turn it around to some degree. Backstrom’s PDO is low as well so there’s the expectation that Nicky’s productivity should improve

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by CapsFan75 on Dec 15, 2011 7:44 AM EST reply actions  

Just listened to Neil on the radio. Good insight, as always.
As for Vokoun…I say, move his family up here stat. He’s living out of a suitcase, away from his wife and kids. That has to add to whatever mental stress he is under. Just a thought.

by KSR17 on Dec 15, 2011 7:46 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

To play devil’s advocate, if you’re only going to be here for six months, why uproot your whole family to do that? I assume his kids are in school, which is a big deal.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 15, 2011 7:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Didn’t it help Ilya last year in NJ? School transfer time is coming up. Kids adjust easy.

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by bagace on Dec 15, 2011 8:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Ilya had also just signed a 15-year deal with New Jersey. It’s highly, highly unlikely TV will be back with this team next year, even if he was setting the world on fire.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 15, 2011 8:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, not sure what it’s worth, but the Caps have had “problems” with kids and schools in the not-so-recent past.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 15, 2011 8:30 AM EST up reply actions  

yes, his daughters are school-aged and I recall Vokoun saying that they decided it would be best for the family if his wife and girls stayed in Florida, because the assumption is he won’t be in Washington next season. They didn’t want to move them this year, only to have to move to yet another city next summer. 3 schools in 3 years is rough.

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by RedBirdie on Dec 15, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Just from what I know about kids who grew up in military families, can’t agree with this enough.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 15, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

As a former Air Force brat who never stayed anywhere longer than 2 to 3 years, I wholeheartedly concur. Twice I had to switch schools mid-year.

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by capsyoungguns on Dec 15, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I have no sympathy for Vokoun. Having been deployed and seeing other military families deal with separation, I’m not giving a pass to Vokoun in that regard. If they can deal with that stress, so can he. He is a millionaire staying fancy hotels and taking chartered flights. And the shots he is facing don’t even compare.

He took a smaller contract to be a number one goalie for a team that he thought would be a playoff contender. He was hoping that playoff success would lead to one last big payday. But first the team has to get to the playoffs and based in large part to his play – the Caps are currently out of the playoff picture. And at this rate, he is playing his way out of the NHL.

by Gin and Tonic on Dec 15, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I have no sympathy for Vokoun. Having been deployed and seeing other military families deal with separation, I’m not giving a pass to Vokoun in that regard. If they can deal with that stress, so can he. He is a millionaire staying fancy hotels and taking chartered flights. And the shots he is facing don’t even compare.

Pretty callous view. Different things impact different people differently, and you can only know your own reality. Maybe if Vokoun had a military background, that perspective would make something like this “deployment” easier on him. But he can only live the life he lives and deal with the things with which he’s had to deal.

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Okay, I don’t have any sympathy for the “problems” of any of the millionaires who play a game for a living. If that makes me callous then so be it.

He’s a professional athlete, he already spent half the season on the road. Considering that this a one year contract, what’s a few more months.

by Gin and Tonic on Dec 15, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Just because someone makes a lot of money doesn’t mean their problems all of a sudden just go away or somehow become “lesser” or should be viewed as such. People are people, no matter if they make 20,000 or 20 million. Hell, how many people commit suicide after winning the lottery?

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 15, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe not, but having money gives you access to resources and tools that others don’t. Starting to get OT.

My point is that Vokoun is not making excuses for his play so why should we? He’s a professional and he signed this contract with a goal in mind that was linked to how he played this season. At present, his play has not put him in the position to achieve that goal.

I’d rather talk about the mechanics of his movement, the speed of his reflexes, or his positioning – compare it to previous years – and see if his skills are failing him or he’s just having a lot of bad luck.

by Gin and Tonic on Dec 15, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Vokoun said he planned on reviewing tapes from the first two weeks of the season to see if there are areas of his game that need tweaking. He said he will not lobby to return to the net, saying it might be best for him to sit back and dissect the mistakes that are leading to soft goals.

"Sometimes the best thing is to get a break and work in practice," he said. "There are plenty of games left. I want to feel good and help this team win. That’s the most important thing.

Vokoun acknowledged that being away from his wife and two daughters for the first time in his career has taken a toll on him personally, saying it’s easier to take his mind off the game when he goes home to his family than when he returns to an apartment by himself.

"That’s my problem," he said. "I’m paid to do a job and I’m a professional."

http://www.csnwashington.com/hockey-washington-capitals/news/Vokoun-Every-shot-an-adventure?blockID=612120&feedID=6357

The separation may be affecting him, but he’s not using it as an excuse either.

by Gin and Tonic on Dec 15, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

My point is that Vokoun is not making excuses for his play so why should we?
The separation may be affecting him, but he’s not using it as an excuse either.

Couldn’t agree more.

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

He said he will not lobby to return to the net

Maybe if he stayed in the net to start with he wouldn’t be having these problems. That guy gives me a heart attack at least a couple of times a game with how far out of position he takes himself (and with how slow he is to slide back into position).

I don’t remember too much about him from his time in FL, but was he always a horizontal version of Tim Thomas?

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by renstar on Dec 15, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, and as to not uprooting his kids, good for him. As an Army brat, that shit sucked. Even to this day I get a little restless if I live in the same town for more than three or four years.

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by renstar on Dec 15, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I scream every time he leaves the crease.

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by RedBirdie on Dec 15, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Someone needs to come up with bungee cords with magical powers, which keep Caps goalies in the crease, but which do not impede the skaters.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I might not scream, but I definitely get nervous.

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by gfcaps fan on Dec 15, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Being like Tim Thomas is a bad thing? Here are his last 5 years in stats
Year Team GP SV% SO
2007-08 BOS 57 .921 3

2008-09 BOS 54 .933 5

2009-10 BOS 43 .915 5

2010-11 BOS 57 .938 9

2011-12 BOS 21 .940 3

The problem is Vokoun isn’t stopping shots he should. I don’t really care how he gets his SV% up as long as it gets there. Floppy Timmy somehow stops shots, and it seems to work.

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by Bman21212 on Dec 15, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Floppy Timmy Tommy has a great defense and makes the routine saves.

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by Whiter Mage on Dec 15, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you grossly understate his ability.

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m slowly turning on Tim Thomas. I think he’s a good goalie with great fundamentals. I don’t think he’s elite without Boston’s defensive scheme and players. He can make the outstanding save, but I don’t think he’s the dominant goalie of years past (When we had Roy, Hasek, etc). He may be the best goalie right now, but I think the real quality of goaltenders has gone down in recent years.

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by Whiter Mage on Dec 15, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think he’s elite without Boston’s defensive scheme and players.

Then you don’t think he’s elite. And I disagree with that.

To be sure, he is in a favorable system and surrounded by talent that fits the system (novel concept).

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s fair. I think he’s a very good goaltender. I also think a goaltender like Ty Conklin or Chris Osgood could fill his role, and the Bruins would still be in decent shape (But not the shape they’re in now).

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by Whiter Mage on Dec 15, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the Bruins would still be in playoff shape, but neither would have stats touching Thomas’. I’d predict .910 maybe.

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by Bman21212 on Dec 15, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

His fundamentals are awful. He gets by on athleticism. And douchebaggery. If that guy has anymore success in the NHL it’ll be too soon. Fuck that guy in the ear.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Dec 15, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

He definitely has unorthodox fundamentals, but he stops pucks very well. I’d love to have him on the Caps.

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by Bman21212 on Dec 15, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I said the same thing about Vokoun in the offseason though…..

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by twistedlogic on Dec 15, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d still make that deal 100 time out of 100. He might be lost in the woods, but he’ll get better.

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by Bman21212 on Dec 15, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

So you are saying you don’t like him that much, is that it?

by bigeugene on Dec 15, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

So, if Tim Thomas and a similarly in-shape and like-sized hobo were running at you and you had a dagger in your right hand and nothing in your left… what do you do?

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Stab the hobo, sodomize Timmy Thom’s ear canal.

That’s an easy one.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 15, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

This sounds like the new stick v. brick.

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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 15, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

but I don’t think he’s the dominant goalie of years past (When we had Roy, Hasek, etc)

Well, I don’t think anyone puts him in the running for greatest of all time.

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by red army line on Dec 15, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that title already belongs to Pekka Rinne.

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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 15, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I like Rinne, but he’s not on that level, and won’t be for some time.

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by Whiter Mage on Dec 15, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

we had some guy come on after the Nashville game declaring that Rinne is the best there ever was. It was hilarious.

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by RedBirdie on Dec 15, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

The funny thing was that Rinne has been very average ever since that game.

by RCheli on Dec 15, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

KHtaD is totally winning that bet right now. Rinne’s PH SV% is currently below .900!

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by RedBirdie on Dec 15, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

The funny thing was that Rinne has been very average ever since that game signing that contract.

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by EmilyB on Dec 15, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I normally feel the points here are worthy of consideration and have a lot more merit than other venues but the debate on Thomas is about as big a pile of steaming $&*% as I’ve had the displeasure to read. You don’t win two Vezinas, be in lead consideration for a third and win a Stanley Cup without being an elite goaltender. As a Caps fan in the New England region I see A LOT of Thomas and if you think his stats are because of a favorable system then you’re simply reporting opinion based on the desire to tear down a team and player that put together a team the right way and won – something we’ve been tortured with for too long due to the Caps failure to do the same. And if you just want recent visual evidence – watch the highlights of last night’s Ottawa game and then tell me the system and routine saves were to credit.

Pure bull&%$!

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by Steve47 on Dec 15, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

When did I say he didn’t have the ability to steal a game? He totally does, but most goalies in the NHL do. I think he’s a pretty good goalie. I don’t think he’s as elite as he seems to be made out.

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by Whiter Mage on Dec 15, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not trying to just pick on you – sort of by default through the string. If you look at the last four years Boston (beginning with this year thus far) is 25th, 29th, 14th and 24th in shots allowed per game. That means his Vezina years they were 29th and 24th and the year he played injured they tightened it up and finished 14th. Their “system” works because they have two great goaltenders, one who I would assert is elite. Do you ever think that perhaps Boston’s great defensive system is also myth or not as great as it’s made out to be? It reminds me of the garbage regarding Tampa’s 1-3-1; even last year when it was so vaunted as fresh and stifling (both nonsense) they finished 22nd in the league in GAA.

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by Steve47 on Dec 15, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, they gave up a lot of shots, but I’ve watched a few games and while they give up many shots, I think they do a good job of where they give up the shots from. I don’t think it’s necessarily a myth on the Bruins defense, but that’s a fair argument. It’s hard to evaluate goalies now, though, because ideally goalies should play the same regardless of what team they’re on, and we’re seeing first hand with Vokoun that’s not really true.

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by Whiter Mage on Dec 15, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Truce. I do believe some of my passion derives from watching his passion (derided by some) while the Caps, goalie on out, are mired in a passivity I find difficult to understand.

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by Steve47 on Dec 15, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Grant Fuhr says hi.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 15, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Even great defense doesn’t give you an average of .920+ over the past 5 years without a buttload of skill. But Thomas not letting in floaters like Vokoun has been would be a significant difference.

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by Bman21212 on Dec 15, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m starting to wonder if Vokoun was always just an average goalie in a terrible system, a trait which I feel can artificially boost the SV% numbers. Clemmensen was able to step in and look godly in that system too. And Nashville has just rolled out goalie after goalie who looks stellar just because they wear Blue/Silver/Gold.

I don’t know what it is, but I’m quickly becoming terrified of Vokoun.

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by Whiter Mage on Dec 15, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I do think a passive D team which allows a lot of shots but from the outside boosts a goalies stats. But lets say Vokoun had that, and knock a few percentage points off his SV% under that system. He should still be .915% And he’s not been bad internationally, so he’s still a damn good goalie.

I have not been impressed with Vokouns play as of late, but I do not expect this to continue forever.

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by Bman21212 on Dec 15, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Boston’s system definitely helps boost SV%. Maybe Rask and Thomas are both so great that the two of them have led the NHL in SV% for three straight years, but I think the system has to play a role. I believe Julien himself has even said that he coaches the D to let the other team shoot as much as they want from the outside and just focus on cutting down scoring chances.

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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 15, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

And the DIGR stuff seemed to corroborate that.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 15, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

When Tim Thomas is flopping around outside of the goal (from what I’ve seen) he is usually out on top of the crease and (well) beyond. He also gets back to the crease with some speed.

Vokoun has been getting stuck on the side of the goal (and beyond) and unable to get back. Even when he is out front (and can cut the angle), the puck is usually not where angle cutting can help. It is behind him and to the side, and all the bodies down near the crease stop him from getting back in to position.

Simply said, Thomas is frequently way out of position, but he is athletic and makes it work. Vokoun is frequently out of position in a way that makes it harder to recover, and he is not as athletic, and it does not work.

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by renstar on Dec 15, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

also, it seems that when TV is out of position, he is also off his skates which makes it really hard to get back. He’s mostly just sliding and scrambling.

by kingbonehead on Dec 15, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Couldn’t agree more. Vokes is sloooooooowww getting back in position after challenging. Painful to watch.

by Dirk Dangler on Dec 15, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Has anyone tabulated the number of goals deflected off of our own players compared to prior seasons? It seems like an awful lot this year.

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by ExPatCapFan on Dec 15, 2011 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Brad Richards talked about how hard it was to move to NYC on 24/7 and he has like a bagillion dollars.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 15, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

And no family and he’s dating a pretty attractive lass.

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

It was kind of naive how he said it. Dude’s been around the league for a couple games.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 15, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s what I’m saying. It comes with the territory and the benefits outweigh the negatives.

Don’t get me wrong. Moving sucks. But no one is putting a gun to these guys’ heads to make them do it.

by Gin and Tonic on Dec 15, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, now we’re taking a stroll down Strawman Lane.

No, these aren’t indentured servants. And yes, they’re being handsomely remunerated for their skills and sacrifices. But that doesn’t mean they’re robots.

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

What strawman? I don’t follow.

- They are paid well for what they do.

- Moving from one city to another comes with the job of a professional athlete.

- Aside from trades, they can choose where they live/work (Richards was a free agent when he signed with NY, he could have gone anywhere he wanted and played for what they offered)

- It can have an effect on performance, but it is not an excuse.

I don’t believe at any point I suggested they were robots.

by Gin and Tonic on Dec 15, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

This is all speculation about a hypothetical problem anyways. Who the hell knows what’s going on in Vokoun’s head right now? We just know that he’s performing below his capabilities and are taking stabs in the dark.

by Kolzilla on Dec 15, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Which is why I would rather look at his play this season vs. prior ones to see if there are fundamental differences in how he is playing than to talk about whatever effect being away from his family is having.

by Gin and Tonic on Dec 15, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

G&T….superb posts. I don’t think they are callous at all. I have been excorciated for talking about players and their contracts. These are grown, mulit-millionaires playing a game and should be held accountable like any other professional. TV seems like a true gentleman and, admirably, is not talking about coaches or systems or whatever.

by Wilderthing on Dec 15, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

No one’s saying they shouldn’t be held accountable. No one’s making excuses, least of all the player himself.

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy shit, not this again…

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 15, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

There is no ‘this again.’ TV was the only name mentioned here. I was simply agreeing with G&T, and saying that TV’s self-assessment was admirable. I apologize that my previous posts have been so off-putting.

by Wilderthing on Dec 15, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

TV seems like a true gentleman and, admirably, is not talking about coaches or systems or whatever.

I think this portrayal of Vokoun as the consummate professional (sorry if that’s putting words in your mouth) is a bit off, given his increasingly frequent glares and dressing down of teammates after goals, his “hard to win when you only score one goal” comment, and perhaps other things.

No doubt, though, that he owns his softies.

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it not hard to win, when you only score one goal? I think that’s just calling it as it is.

Unless he is saying something inappropriate in those situations, I wouldn’t label him getting on his teammates as unprofessional behavior. His teammates have a big role in protecting the net too. The best way to keep pucks out of the net is to keep them from ever reaching the goalie.

If the Caps were winning, we’d probably be talking about his competitive nature and how he won’t settle for less than 100% effort.

by Gin and Tonic on Dec 15, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it not hard to win, when you only score one goal? I think that’s just calling it as it is.

It is. But it’s also throwing teammates under the bus, to an extent.

Disagree on the last part – win or lose, showing up teammates is never a good thing, especially if you’re not holding up your end of the bargain.

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s not a secret inside the Caps’ locker room or outside it that the offense is struggling and they need to score more goals to win games.

I don’t know what TV is saying so I can’t come down to hard on him. If he’s hurling insults at guys – then that’s bad form and shouldn’t continue.

If he’s communicating anything constructive, then I’d be willing to give it a pass even if the delivery is harsh, and chalk the tone up to being a product of emotion.

by Gin and Tonic on Dec 15, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok; thanks JP. I take your word for it. You know your stuff and you run a great blog that I immensely enjoy and appreciate. I was not aware of this behavior with other teammates. I have just felt badly that I have apparently unintentionally put off a lot of posters. That was certainly not my intention. I am just frustrated by this year and what appears to be a general ‘lack of fire’ or whatever on the part of too many players, imo.

by Wilderthing on Dec 15, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re all good. It’s been a frustrating start to the season, to be sure.

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

FWIW, I don’t think Vokoun is asking for sympathy. Reads like speculation in the post you are responding to here.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

FWIW, I don’t think he is either. One of the things that I do like about what he’s brought is personal accountability.

And I was specifically responding to the speculation from the other post. Not Vokoun in general.

by Gin and Tonic on Dec 15, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Reactions to not having a “normal” family life are as different and varied as the personalities of the people they effect. Some people can handle it, and some people can’t, sometimes even those in the military.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 15, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes he is being treated well comparatively, and yes some people do have it worse. But some having it worse doesn’t mean the current situation isn’t bad, especially for someone who is not used to the separation. Goalies are notorious headcases, so much so that I’m surprised Green wasn’t ever a goalie. I doubt he’s really playing his way out of the NHL; even if he keeps up this mediocre at best pace, he’ll still get a one year contract from some team because of his history.

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Thanks for the support.

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I am ready for a hockey game. Thank goodness that preseason game with the Flyers wasn’t the real thing.

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by caps&skins on Dec 15, 2011 7:55 AM EST reply actions  

Did anyone see 24/7 last night? How was it?

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In all seriousness, I thought it was pretty good, slightly tweaking the story to keep the telling fresh and not losing the merits of the show.

And to borrow from Dave Lozo, I’d pay cash money to watch Bryz talk about the plot to Inception.

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Bryzgalov is Mike Green’s long lost Russian cousin.

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by _Skullduggery_ on Dec 15, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

He tweets great, too. It’s dropped off a bit since the season started, though.
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by discuit on Dec 15, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Is there a Santa with two assistants in this version?

Thanks—I will make the effort then.

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by capsyoungguns on Dec 15, 2011 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Who will the Flyers trade Talbot to next season so he can play in another Winter Classic?

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They’ll troll everyone by trading Talbot for Conklin.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 15, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

So it’s Wings/Flyers next year?

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by ThePeerless on Dec 15, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Washington.

Cough, cough.

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I have it DVR’d. Saw the “Bryzgalov explains the Universe” thing though.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 15, 2011 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

That was brilliant. He was made for TV.

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I love the story he told after seeing the tiger picture on the alcohol bottle.

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“If you kill tiger like this, Death Penalty.”

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by Cap-O-Vens on Dec 15, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

It lived up to expectations, which is impressive.

by NateEwell on Dec 15, 2011 8:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I found the writing gorgeous. So good.

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by capsyoungguns on Dec 15, 2011 8:58 AM EST up reply actions  

It was great. Bryz was awesome which everyone else is gushing over. Hartnell calling Cooke the dirtiest player in the NHL was the highlight from me. And it strengthened my hatred for SA16, so I would say yea, as great as it can be without the Caps in it.

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by Cap-O-Vens on Dec 15, 2011 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Hartnell calling Cooke the dirtiest player in the NHL was the highlight from me.

That was laugh out loud funny. I’ll add that I think I’m going to love Torts by the end of this series.

by Kolzilla on Dec 15, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea, I definitely like Torts, and not based on any facts I feel like DH’s coaching style is similar to Lavy, or at least it should be.

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by Cap-O-Vens on Dec 15, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

On that note, one of the unfortunate effects of Hunter’s lack of interaction with the media is that we don’t really know what he’s like as a coach. The farm boy on a tractor image is cute and all, but my inner fan is dying to know what it’s really like in that room.

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Maybe they show a glimpse next week on 24/7? Hoping anyway

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by Cap-O-Vens on Dec 15, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Imagine if we had 24/7 following the Caps last year with DH rather than BB as coach?

by Rather Bengt on Dec 15, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

How much would DH32 hate having the cameras around?

by Kolzilla on Dec 15, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

well, it sure as hell wouldn’t have resulted in me calling a US Representative a “shitbum” last night or suggesting that he grab his sack.

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Oh, please tell me this actually happened.

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by Hang a Laingtern on Your Problems on Dec 15, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

alas, not to his face. Just his office voice mail. Which was still wildly unprofessional, but hilarious.

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It’d almost be like falling asleep at a State Dinner and telling a sitting US Supreme Court Justice to “loosen up, Sandy baby”.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 15, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Bryz is easily the star of the series. He likes talking, has interesting things to say, and has a great accent. Made to be on TV.

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The HBO shot of Phaneuf Phaneufing Sauer was astounding

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by renstar on Dec 15, 2011 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Any thoughts on where someone without HBO can watch this?

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by SeattleCapsFan on Dec 15, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Pensblog has a list of online streams (don’t want to directly link it here in case it gets the site, or me, in trouble).

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 15, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

But basically, that’s how we watched it last year without HBO, and it worked out really well.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 15, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks!

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Good news – the Jets are pretty banged up, so it should be a cakewa…oh, right,

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Any word on whether Mittens will be in the lineup?

by Rather Bengt on Dec 15, 2011 8:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks sk8…I see it says Fehr may play even though he isn’t 100%.

by Rather Bengt on Dec 15, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Read the same, obviously, I was surprised when he played the other night and then had limited minutes so the explanation made sense.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

There are so many ways you can take that headline. None of them good.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 15, 2011 8:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Yup. My reaction to:

“The Capitals have gone 3-4 since the switch and are sure to be in a testy mood after getting thumped 5-1 by the Philadelphia Flyers on Tuesday night.”

Yeah riiiiiight! I’m still waiting for some “testy.”

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by capsyoungguns on Dec 15, 2011 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Isolate that…

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah riiiiiight! I’m still waiting for them to grow some "testy’s."

FTFY

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by Cap-O-Vens on Dec 15, 2011 9:05 AM EST up reply actions   4 recs

Hard to grab them if they still need to grow. Eh.

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by capsyoungguns on Dec 15, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

So this is the Caps’ chance to really show them AHLers how to play NHL-ish hockey.

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Reverse Jinx

I’ve altered my masterpiece in response to recent events. Hopefully the boys make me look reactionary and boorish.

I mean, more reactionary and boorish than normal.

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by bilspacecadet on Dec 15, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Is Evander Kane playing? Yeah, we know what he does to the Caps.

by Caps Homer on Dec 15, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Saw it live. I thought it might have been waved off because I couldn’t believe he’d be able to keep the puck moving forward with all those dekes.

by geauxcaps on Dec 15, 2011 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think he did, did they review it? It seems like they don’t really enforce that rule. I believe there was an instance not long ago where someone actually put the stick in-front of the puck and pulled it back before scoring and they allowed it.

by d3n1x on Dec 15, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Briere scored a shootout goal like that earlier this season. Can’t remember who it was against, but the other team ended up winning anyway so there was no huge outrage that the refs let it stand.

by Murshawursha on Dec 15, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

It was against the Devils. Kane didn’t stop (which would have made it illegal), but no way can you convince me that was the case on Breire’s shot. (here)

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by bagace on Dec 15, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I threw a little fit when the let the Briere goal stand. Can’t imagine how PO’ed Jersey fans would have been if Philly would have ended up winning on that goal.

by Murshawursha on Dec 15, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Wheres the poke check NB32

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by Cap-O-Vens on Dec 15, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I was wondering the same thing.

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Too busy watching the puck. MESMERIZING!

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by Cap-O-Vens on Dec 15, 2011 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

To quote our Captain: It was sick.

After Briere got away with stopping against the Devils last month, I figured more players would try that. But Kane didn’t stop, he just slowed down to basically a crawl and waited out Backstrom. It really was fantastic.

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by bagace on Dec 15, 2011 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I am so, so, eternally, 100% magnificently gratefully glad to everything in the Universe the Penguins took Jordan Staal at 2 in the 2006 draft instead of Jonathan Toews.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 15, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

No kidding. Toews has to be the early contender for the Hart.

by Rather Bengt on Dec 15, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I think if you could throw Crosby, Malkin, and Toews down the middle one-two-three you’d almost never lose a game ;)

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 15, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Watched is last night; don’t like seeing suggestions on twitter this morning that it compares to goals scored during the actual game.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Unless it was a penalty shot, it was so slow that every player on the ice would have gotten down there in time to stop it.

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by bagace on Dec 15, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Breaking news/everyday news, just news in the hockey world, Rick DiPietro on IR

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He should just change his last name to DiPietro-on-IR.

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by boutros23 on Dec 15, 2011 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Only 9 years to go! (and three more years of Yashin buyout FWIW).

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 15, 2011 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Is Tim Connolly soon to follow?

by Rather Bengt on Dec 15, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s a revolving door, how do we know which one is the leader and which one is the follower. As a Caps fan, I simply hope Mike Green gets healthy and doesn’t join this club.

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Can’t spell “DiPietro” without “IR.”

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Can’t spell “Mike Green” without it either :(

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Except he is not on IR, you know he hasn’t played since 11/11, but he’s not on IR …

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

is he not on IR, or has it just not been announced? terrible cap management if he’s not been placed on there at least retroactively.

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by RedBirdie on Dec 15, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

How so?

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

- IR has nothing to do with cap management only to do with roster management

- No he is not on IR; he is still on the active 23 player roster at this time

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

sorry, I was thinking LTIR and the space that creates.

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by RedBirdie on Dec 15, 2011 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

At this point and time, they don’t need the roster spot or the cap hit for another player, with Poti on LTIR, Beagle on IR, King in the AHL, etc.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess I’m just confused as to why they’re not banking cap space by placing Beagle and Green on LTIR.

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by RedBirdie on Dec 15, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Because Poti has them over the cap already – no banking once that’s the case.

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

(And once you use LTIR to go over the cap, you’re not banking anything, so even without Poti, if they used LTIR to exceed the cap, it’d put an end to their banking space under the cap… because they’d be over it.)

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Don’t bank cap space when using LTIR space; just enables them to add players/use the cap space while the player is on LTIR. Already using Poti on LTIR to have space for some other players.

If they had needed the cap space to call up Orlov, I assume Green would be on LTIR.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

But they didn’t need the space; however, for example, if they wanted to call up Holtby and didn’t have the space (I haven’t looked but I doubt they do with only Poti on LTIR,) that would be an option to make room for Holtby… no, I am not advocating calling up Holtby right now.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m sure his fantasy owners are cursing the Caps though, he’s a dead-weight roster spot at this point.

by Murshawursha on Dec 15, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

ESPN finally listed him as ‘out’ a couple of weeks ago, so he is at least IR eligible there.

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by renstar on Dec 15, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Yahoo still has him as DTD. My roommate is pisssssed.

by Murshawursha on Dec 15, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

The Caps refuse to acknowledge that there is or isn’t an IR.

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 15, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

As in a Caps spokesperson saying, “IR not sure there is such a thing as a IR.”

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by ThePeerless on Dec 15, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s an upper roster injury.

by kingbonehead on Dec 15, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

“wait a minute…you can!”

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 15, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Just perusing the TSN.ca web site and counted 90 players as listed on IR.

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by ThePeerless on Dec 15, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you counting the guys like Green, who they list as out indefinitely, but don’t state as on IR because in many instances they aren’t on the official IR?

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Nope, just the specific reference to IR, which makes that a conservative number.

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by ThePeerless on Dec 15, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks and yes, that is why I was asking.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, new mega-Lunchbox is up on the front page with special guest Whyno.

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 10:02 AM EST reply actions  

Happy Brithday Kyle WIlson – Question is does he get into the Preds line-up on his bday (they play Detroit tonight); he should make sure Trotz knows about his only NHL game on his birthday link

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 10:04 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I know the game to which you are linking. I also remember that Green was injured that game also—-believe it was David Koci who ran him.

by Rather Bengt on Dec 15, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep. I wonder what prison league Koci’s playing in these days…

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

More like the head-check league. Amirite?

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I was going to type the “Check” League, guess I should have…

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

000

Heard they’ve got a spot open for him on a team in the Federal League.

Hopefully they can also dig up Sam “Small Print” Lyman as well.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 15, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Not the Poodle?

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 15, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

resulted in the wicked black eye that made an appearance in the Caps Rap video, right?

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by RedBirdie on Dec 15, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Tatar recalled by Detroit, someone else get hurt?

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Chris Connor, hand injury.

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by RedBirdie on Dec 15, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks to you (and to Mr. Birdie’s allegiances)

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They’re hoping Tatar adds some sauce to their lineup.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 15, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

or at least not a mistake, Tatar could be a raw deal.

by Gin and Tonic on Dec 15, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

There was roughly a 99.91% chance that you were going to make that exact pun.

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I’m getting as predictable as a Matt Hendricks shootout move.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 15, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

But more successful – if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Nothing for a steak tartare pun? I’m hanging with the wrong crowd.

by Gin and Tonic on Dec 15, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I was looking for an Uzbek or Kazak joke out of someone

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by renstar on Dec 15, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Nail Yakupov sure would look nice rocking the red…

by Twenty Seven Ninety on Dec 15, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I think most, if not all, would agree as long as it was Colorado’s pick that was being used to select him.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

You hit that one on the head.

by RCheli on Dec 15, 2011 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

In Kazakhstan, stuff like this happens.

by discuit on Dec 15, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

according to Winging It, the injury is expected to keep him out a couple of weeks. Patrick Eaves is also injured, but I don’t know what his status is. And Tatar got called up because someone else—unknown—is fighting a nagging injury and they’ll make the decision later today if Tatar plays or will be working on his NCC/60 up int he pressbox tonight.

I’m more intrigued by who the mystery injury is.

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by RedBirdie on Dec 15, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ll be more terrified when Jurco is finally ready to play up there. The rich get richer.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 15, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

The Eaves injury, ugly as it was, isn’t new so I did know about that one, thanks.

In call-up news, no surprise since he tweeted last night he was in Austin and sounded like a call-up, but Stars make it official that Hauswirth was called up to the AHL.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

congratulations to Jake!

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by RedBirdie on Dec 15, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

The only Jets article I could find on the front of TSN.ca’s hockey page was this one. Good to see where the fan base of the opposition is.

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by Whiter Mage on Dec 15, 2011 10:20 AM EST reply actions  

Ha, don’t need to click the link to know what this is about.

Curious, the Selanne returning to Winnipeg this weekend articles aren’t on the front of TSN yet?

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Not at all. I thought that would be a major story, too.

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by Whiter Mage on Dec 15, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

The Globe & Mail had a story on it the other day.

by Rather Bengt on Dec 15, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Yup, I’ve seen some stories on it, but was reacting to WM’s comment about TSN articles.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

For example, in the Winnipeg Free Press and Winnipeg Sun and the Anaheim coverage

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope he gets a good reception back.

by Rather Bengt on Dec 15, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

From Deadspin, this article on the Mets financial situation is fucking insane.

They’re over a billion dollars in the hole. Most of that is tied to their new stadium, but the team is still something like close to 400 million in debt outside of that.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 15, 2011 10:40 AM EST reply actions  

Oops that should have gone in OT. But I can relate it to hockey by saying that’s more than a lot of NHL franchises are worth.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 15, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Concussion discussion continuation -

Was watching the Wild Blackhawks game last night and Latendresse left, being reported as issues related to his recent concussion, not good.

Glad the WIld held Bouchard out of the game, although it sounds like he couldn’t have played due to his injuries (non-concussion for now) anyway.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 10:48 AM EST reply actions  

I’m surprised no one has mentioned this Boudreau post-game quote from last night: Same words, one implies he said something else in between, but anyway, here’s the quote:

Boudreau:

This was the hardest I’ve seen a team work this year that I’ve been coaching, and that includes the Capitals.
source: curtiszupke Curtis Zupke

and this version from twitter – icemancometh Eric Stephens

Boudreau: “I thought this was the hardest I’ve seen a team work this year that I’ve been coaching … and that includes the Capitals too.”

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 11:25 AM EST reply actions  

was that tweet-only? Or is it included in an article for better context? I can’t figure out if he means the caps don’t work hard, or the Caps work hard, but the Ducks just took working hard to another level. or it’s Bruce and I shouldn’t read too much into it because he opens his mouth without thinking.

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by RedBirdie on Dec 15, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I imagine it’s in his postgame video comments, but I haven’t had a chance to look.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Here at 3:09, but it’s edited as part of a package.

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by Bald Pollack on Dec 15, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

In a hotel in Manitoba, a humble Saskatchewan boy sheds a single tear…

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by bagace on Dec 15, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I hadn’t seen it – thanks (I just RT’d it so others might find it).

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Sure, I RTd it, but it was pretty early this morning when I saw it.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Someone should make sure this quote finds its way on to the board in the Caps locker room before tonight’s game.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe we can make that happen…

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Any word yet if it’s worked?

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by gfcaps fan on Dec 15, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

The San Jose Sharks 2012 Holiday Video is here

I have posted a fanshot here

It’s awesome and awkward. The Sharks promotional department deserves major props for all they do.

by Rather Bengt on Dec 15, 2011 11:49 AM EST reply actions  

I watched that yesterday and laughed aloud. The Joe Thornton chest toupee? And the end with Slappy?

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by boutros23 on Dec 15, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

The Douglas Murray part cracked me up.

by Rather Bengt on Dec 15, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s a great piece of work. I thought all of the tandems worked really well.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 15, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

“Fabulous!”

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by boutros23 on Dec 15, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

“It’s not Fabulous”

The video is brilliant though… I laughed out loud too.

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 15, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Looks like the hometown boy (Eakin) will get another shot to shine in front of his peeps:

Katie Carrera
Matt Hendricks isn’t taking part in line rushes this am. Looks like he may miss a fourth straight contest with an injured right knee. #Caps

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by bagace on Dec 15, 2011 12:39 PM EST reply actions  

They’ll be pouring it on and I hope he does too.

by discuit on Dec 15, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Hockey-related, the boys at Hogs Haven just point me to this (note the bio):

http://t.co/Mc7a87lI

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 1:00 PM EST reply actions  

Ummm…. that’s a first.

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by timmyv38 on Dec 15, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Bravo.

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Very strong work.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 15, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

make it green.

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by _Skullduggery_ on Dec 15, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

HAY-OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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by _Skullduggery_ on Dec 15, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Brings new meaning to saying that a player gives a crap.

by Gin and Tonic on Dec 15, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

That is…something. Rogue Squadron is right.

Period 1
Rogue Squadron – Zung Nguyen (Unsportsmanlike Conduct), 1.5 min , 0:45
Rogue Squadron – Zung Nguyen (Game Misconduct(Game Misconduct), 10 min , 0:45
Rogue Squadron – Zung Nguyen (Unsportsmanlike Conduct(Major), 5 min , 0:45
Rogue Squadron – Zung Nguyen (Spearing(Major), 5 min , 0:45

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 15, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

More like Rogue Squattin’, amirite?

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Just when I thought BP won the post of the day, you uncork this one.

They’re flyin’ thick and fast in here.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 15, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Thick and fast are not words I wanted to see anywhere near this thread…

Let’s just say I experienced the Hard Times Chili Nachos at the VC one night and end it at that.

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 15, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Not a coincidental choice of words, for what it’s worth.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 15, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

so he fights. Gloves, sticks, etc on the ice afterward. He gets away from ref, grabs a glove from the ice, drops the shorts and… ?

That must have been some game…

by kingbonehead on Dec 15, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Btw, probably not something you necessarily want prospective employers stumbling upon when they Google your name.

“Zung interviewed really well. I definitely see upper-middle-management potential in him. Let’s just check the ol’ Interwebs to make sure… oh… oh my.”

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, if you’re going to do that your name should be something more common like John Smith or Sean Avery.

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 15, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

His name happens to be pretty ungoogleable. Of course, I did find this unfortunately-named (particularly given the context) guy.

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by Wheeler on Dec 15, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t know Duck from Mad Men played hockey. /ot

by Rather Bengt on Dec 15, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I thing Zung Nguyen is VIetnamese for “Gilbert Areans”

Honestly, for some of the guys I played with, this could only have improved the smell of their gloves.

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by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 15, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

err, Arenas…

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by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 15, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Here is apparently what happened according to a guy named plopey on twitter:

I know the guys that reffed this game, they had no idea what to do. Not exactly in the rulebook lol….They fought on the ice, and while they were being separated after, he threw the other guy’s glove…into the stands, went to the locker room and changed after he got kicked out, then walked into the…stands and dropped his pants right there and just went for it.

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by sydtron on Dec 15, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Neuvy gets the start tonight, per Vogs and KC.

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 1:11 PM EST reply actions  

Not a surprise given TV’s recent comments about having to step back and re-examine his game and what’s been going wrong this year.

by Gin and Tonic on Dec 15, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I called it in the recap Tuesday night – Neuvy deserves this one.

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

The questions need to be asked/answered in a cascading type of way:

If Neuvy plays well, does he start COL? I say yes
If Neuvy plays poorly, does he start in COL? I say no
Is Neuvy slotted for several consecutive games while TV gets his mind right, provided Neuvy doesn’t totally screw the pooch? I think yes
Is TV getting a big or little timeout? I think fairly big, should Neuvy play lights out in WPG and COL.

If they both are playing unsustainably bad, each game presents an opportunity to begin to staunch the bleeding – but who provides the tourniquet?

by S h a g g y on Dec 15, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

My answers:

Yes – win and you’re in right now. Play well and lose and it might be enough.
No
I don’t think so – no one’s going to get two-in-a-row if the first start isn’t a good one
I think little

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the length of TV’s timeout will be on him. He needs to find what’s wrong with his game, work with Dave Prior (and Olie if he’s around) to fix it, and then prove to DH that he’s got it figured out.

Neuvy’s play will factor in too, but if TV can right the ship I think he’ll be back in goal sooner rather than later.

by Gin and Tonic on Dec 15, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Garrett Mitchell getting a promotion to the top line (short-term perhaps) per Leone; Bears play tomorrow at Norfolk and Saturday and Sunday at home.

link

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 1:12 PM EST reply actions  

Good for Garrett! Better for the Bears if he doesn’t have to be on the top line, but good going, kid.

And having Kyle skating again is just great.

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by EmilyB on Dec 15, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t get to see all of 24/7, but impressed by Callahan’s grandmother and entertained that she is being talked about today on twitter and message boards as much as Avery, JJ, etc.

I’m surprised I haven’t seen more about Simmonds’ comment about Philly vs LA, but can’t say that I have looked at any message boards which are LA specific.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 2:03 PM EST reply actions  

Callahan’s family was pretty much all gold. I tweeted it last night (and in retrospect kudos to the HBO team for not doing it) that if the cameras stayed on his Dad another half beat it would have been golden, but then the grandmother gave them an even better moment.

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by Bald Pollack on Dec 15, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Loved that whole thing w/ Callahan’s family, what a great moment.

I will say that, as much as I enjoyed 24/7 – because they really do such an amazing job with this whole thing – I didn’t have the same overwhelming “holy SHIT that was amazing” reaction I had after the first episode last year.

Not sure if it was just because it wasn’t about the Caps (although I was riveted during the segments on the Pens, too, so it can’t just be that) or because last year it was so novel. Or maybe it was because the first episode last year had such a simple, defined storyline – one team going up, one team going down – while this year was a bit more abstract, looking at the toll the sport takes on those who play it.

I don’t know. Still enjoyed it immensely, and the filming was amazing and I thought the sections on Giroux’s injury were handled incredibly well – just felt like while there were amazing moments (seriously, Bryz?) there were more of them, and more specific moments revealing the personality/character of different players, in the first episode of the Caps/Pens one.

…try and stop me from tuning in for episode 2, though :)

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by Becca H on Dec 15, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

In terms of storytelling structure the AV Club raises decent ideas in terms of differences between last year and this from storytelling perspective, but I think the combination of a) Not knowing what we’d even see last year and b) The fact that our team was in it might be part of your amazement. v2.0 has the buy-in of last year’s crowd so they don’t have to do the same things, so they can flesh out a bit more of the subtleties and do different things, and the actual way they’re shooting is obviously going to improve because of acclimation.

The way I’ve been looking at it is from a non-sports, television show perspective, where the main character is so strong in the first year that now the creative people have their legs and everyone likes him/her/them, they can probe around and find different aspects that others might not have spotted before (and should), without losing what makes the character so appealing.

Christ I think I just sounded like a film prof.

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by Bald Pollack on Dec 15, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

…you did. But it was a good description/explanation, thanks :) And it’s definitely all relative, because I really did think it was incredibly well done over all.

I think last year I was just so giddy at seeing our boys up there on HBO that they could have showed them sitting around staring at their toes for an hour and I would have been riveted – this year I have a better understanding of what’s going on, and without the emotional attachment it might take me a bit longer to get into the personal side of it.

Plus it’s fighting much more ingrained hatred this time around… with just one evil team last year, and maybe a handful of guys on that team that I really just wanted to punch, I was pretty much all-in from the start. Between the Flyers and the Rangers there are just so many players I despise (although definitely some I like, and some I could see liking by the end) it’s a little tougher.

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by Becca H on Dec 15, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Loved both descriptions. Will definitely download it when it’s available.

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by capsyoungguns on Dec 15, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. Callahan and his family seem like all class. It’s nice to see that in professional athletes these days. In fact, I really liked the majority of the Rags – excluding a Mr. Sean Avery.

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by _Skullduggery_ on Dec 15, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Did Schultz make the trip? If so, any chance he will crack the line-up tonight? I would like to see if his work with Johnson is paying off. Perhaps if he got a few games under his belt with a regular partner – like Dale is doing with the o-lines – we might be able to see if there has been some progress. If so, I would like him to get some regular ice time in the rotation, at least equal to that of 44 and 4.

by Wilderthing on Dec 15, 2011 3:05 PM EST reply actions  

Yes, Schultz is on the trip. no, he is not playing tonight.

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by RedBirdie on Dec 15, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Check out Philipp Grubauer’s awesome new mask, featuring both the Caps and Stingrays.

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by RedBirdie on Dec 15, 2011 3:36 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, bad ass.

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

(And I’d encourage a FanShot on such things, especially images – not everyone dives into the comments, and it’ll be in tomorrow’s Clips, but we need to take the FanShots back from the “OT Hockey” folks!!!)

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s just crazy talk…

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 15, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey.

OT Hockey last night included a discussion of the ’96 Team USA World Cup Championship team and a link to youtube video of the goals from the gold medal game. Nothing wrong with that!

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I love that game with all my heart. I was in college back then, and we didn’t get the game on TV, but a buddy’s dad from north of Buffalo taped it (VCR, natch) and sent it to us. We got it three days later – hadn’t a clue what was going to happen – and watched.

It was a more innocent time then. I wonder how long I could avoid a score from a game like that today. My guess is zero seconds.

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

What won’t technology ruin?

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by Rob Parker on Dec 15, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Fun. Now where is that tape?

There’s always the ’80 gold medal game on tape delay ….times they have changed

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

they were still tape-delaying the Olympics in 2004. Insane.

and to remain on topic: I actually taped game 1 of the Caps-Rangers playoff series this past spring. Yes, tape. The VCR finally bit the dust a few weeks later.

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by RedBirdie on Dec 15, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, I know and yes, it is crazy.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

what’s crazy? Tape-delaying the Olympics, or me still using a VCR in 2011? :)

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by RedBirdie on Dec 15, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

tape delaying live sporting events

(I still have a DVD VCR combo, which is used from time to time, knock on wood)

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve noticed that FOX likes to show tape-delayed EPL games on Sunday sometimes. I’m looking to increase my knowledge and fandom of English soccer, but there’s just no suspense for me when I know that if I surf the web a bit to find out more about a player or team I’ll inevitably be spoiled with the result.

by discuit on Dec 15, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll note here that they plan to show live games on the morning of the NFC Championship (Arsenal-ManU) and Super Bowl (Chelsea-ManU), respectively, before showing myself to the OT thread.

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by Bald Pollack on Dec 15, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I think us OT Hockey folks are amendable to hiding the OT Hockey posts a day or two after their posted, if that helps. I know how quickly stuff can slip off the front page (coughCharityPick-upGamecough) with daily Hockey OT posts. And I say as one of the people who is in Hockey OT almost every night and love it.

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by RedBirdie on Dec 15, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, I know. Just messin’. Would love more user-generated content in the FanPosts and FanShots, though.

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by J.P. on Dec 15, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

you and your minions spoil us with so much content every single day. And then you go an co-opt content generators like F&B!

But I will keep it in mind.

BTW, heard you on the radio last night (after my little drunk dialing adventure….). Nice job.

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by RedBirdie on Dec 15, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

pic of Prior/Anderson

from wheatkingsvoice Bruce Luebke

Washington goaltender coach Dave Prior in #bdnmb to confer with Caps’ prospect and #bdnwheatkings G Brandon Anderson.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 3:50 PM EST reply actions  

bah, picture fail, here’s the link

http://twitter.com/#!/wheatkingsvoice/status/147416777045975040/photo/1

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

let's see if this works

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by RedBirdie on Dec 15, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Aptly named lad, eh?

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 15, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

He started the season with Lethbridge and yes, we had some fun when he was traded to Brandon. Not quite as aptly named as this former Brandon Wheat Kings player.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Hah, I bet not. That’s classic.

I’ve probably mentioned it before, but my uncle played for the Wheaties, so I have a soft spot in my heart for them.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 15, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeesh. From Bob McKenzie
After seeing concussion Drs., PHI’s Chris Pronger won’t be playing anytime soon and I won’t be surprised he doesn’t play rest of season.

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by boutros23 on Dec 15, 2011 5:22 PM EST reply actions  

man. Not a guy I like and he’s certainly caused his share of serious injury, but damn, that’s a scary serious brain injury.

and because it must be asked: if this, hypothetically, ends his career, Philly’s off the hook on the cap hit, right?

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by RedBirdie on Dec 15, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Does a career ending injury count the same as a retirement? If it does, then they’re on the hook.

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by Whiter Mage on Dec 15, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup. They’d have to LTIR him through the end of the contract. Which they’ve already done with, um, Laperierre?

Then again, a new CBA in 2012 might have something to say about that.

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by gfcaps fan on Dec 15, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s the key, they are not off the hook, they can put him on LTIR so it’s different, see the discussion of Poti earlier, etc. until or if the rules change and then we don’t know what will happen. The other area it would impact if there aren’t any changes is in the off-season calculation of the cap, where there is a extra room, but the cap hit would count.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 15, 2011 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks for the clarification. I thought perhaps it was a little different if someone suffered a career-ending injury.

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by RedBirdie on Dec 15, 2011 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Difference with Poti is that he can retire and there’s no cap hit for the Caps. Which if his career is over, I’d like to see the team figure a way to get him his money for the year remaining and have him retire. Scout or some kind of other consultant, perhaps.

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Dec 15, 2011 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

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