Monday Caps Clips: Training Camp Day 3

his mother?

he’s condescending towards baseball women.

At times. LaVar, too.

And I like them in general, but I had to stop listening after a couple of mysogynistic tirades.

Forget primary, he’s the only radio talk voice on hockey, that’s the depressing part.

Not to mention his whole radio persona is O&A Lite, at least when I used to hear his old show.

I obviously don’t listen to every minute of every show, but they like what they like, try to keep it entertaining for their key demographics, and do a great job of promoting the team I care most about, so I’m a fan. But to each his own, of course.

I didn’t know anyone actually listened to the radio anymore, much less sportstalk radio.

Say what?

Seconded. Great Photos there Turnit.

Willsie? Just a guess.

Someone will talk to RAHJC about late night tweeting, surely. We’re not supposed to know, John.

I know you’re snarking, but I saw them around 8:30 pm. Not really late to be out. None of them appeared to be drunk like some other skins fans stumbling around after the game. Some of the drunk fans tried to go up to the skins players as they were crossing the street to their parking lot. Kinda fun to watch security deal with them. At least they have way more security out there for the players than last year when they barely had any. The caps players park in the same secure access lot as the skins players so it’s a good place to hang out if you want to see both groups.

Dennis Dixon is so skinny looking, Sidney Crosby could probably take hits better than him.

Of course Sid wasn’t at the Steelers game. It was in TN. And I’d love to see Crosby behind that Steelers O line, especially yesterday.

(That is to say that 4 and 89 are nearly in stone as the 6/7, barring a new addition to the roster.)

Once again – awesome radio show over the weekend.

Made me laugh a few times while running.

You guys didn’t hold back on the questions either and presented a fair appraisal of Vogs’ article.

Even if Fahey and Collins do stand out in camp, it’s hard to envision a scenario in which they beat out Sloan or Erskine b/c the team would have to send 89 or 4 through waivers, and I don’t think they want to do that.

No, but it’s much more important to see what the depth chart looks like in March than in September (obviously).

Thanks for the link on the article. I’m kind of catching up here and there on previews. Since I’m not familiar with any of the Hershey players who didn’t see time in DC, those kinds of links are very helpful. Appreciate your work as always, Peerless.

Yes, I noticed the Mussorgsky reference in RMNB’s post on the pictures of Bruce. (I remember one of the pictures in Mussorgsky’s piece was “:The Great Gate of Kiev” a city I had assumed was Russian until the Ukraine broke away from the Soviet Union and it turned out to be Ukrainian.) The Ukraine had been under Russian domination for what seemed like forever.

We’ve all read about how this could be a make or break season for Ovi and the other young guns (and Bruce for that matter), but Knuble’s got a lot at stake as well. Last year of a two year contract, pushing 40, He needs just over 100 games to reach the 1,000 NHL game milestone so you know he’ll want to extend his play at least one more season. I know that he won the cup with the Red Wings, but he’s always downplaying his role on that team. If he’s a major player in this year’s SCF, he’ll guarantee another season, plus he could have a shot at the the HHOF (I assume he’s a lock for the USHOF).

was Kanoobie at the rink yapping for joy?

Same here, plus I’m looking forward to watching him fight. I admit it.

He seems to understand (at least in very early interviews) that he’s expected to not just be some big, scary presence with his hands, but that he needs to actually contribute on the forecheck.

So far, he seems more than capable. He actually isn’t as hulking a skater as I seem to remember him being.

Heaven forbid we try and get a read on the only new guy on the roster, and react positively when he looks sharp.

I believe he’s of Metis descent.

Final score 6 – 3 Team A. Ovi got the last one.

He hasn’t looked bad per-say. Just not what I’d expect given all the hype and what I’ve personally seen from him so far.

His performance wouldn’t vex me except that 1) he’s in direct competition with Perrault and 2) Perrault has looked fantastic at times. Just doesn’t bode well.

There’s the upside view I’ve been looking for.

i glanced at the graph and realized he was discussing GVT. i thought “how in the hell is he going to explain GVT to CI readers?” the answer: “higher numbers are better than lower numbers.” :) probably the only way to go.

i wanted to ask how he determined “comparable players.” but then i realized it would require commenting at WaPo. i’m guessing players of similar ages with similar minutes in juniors/minors before promotion? or similar draft position?

Photography and Statistics, rare combination.

I agree with you, and I have to admit that I wonder if a large portion was left on the cutting room floor.

As someone who likes statistics and sees a lot of value in them, I worry it will make people more cynical about them because it doesn’t address some of the major concerns with the data, most notably that GVT is not a rate-based statistic.

I agree with your general theme but I give them a lot of credit for trying.

The MSM across all sports (exception baseball in certain publications in a handful of baseball markets (boston, chicago, new york)) have pretended that the league reported stats are the only ones that exist and worth talking about.

This is encouraged by the fact that many of the newer/fancier stats don’t mean much for one specific game but mean a lot when analyzing a player’s whole season (e.g. When Eric Fehr scores a game winning goal, people care about the goal, they dont care that he got his goal in only 11 minutes of ice time, of which, only 3 seconds were on the PP)

It is a bit unfair to say, “he should’ve further explained this certain statistic to this audience (that you claim) doesn’t like statistics”. On the one hand you say his explanation for the stat is lacking, while on the other hand, you say his audience is uncomfortable and prone not to trust stats. Perhaps for his first post he didn’t want to overdue it with overwhelming statistics and complex figures. Heaven forbid someone that doesn’t understand a relatively simple statistic like GVT doesn’t look it up using the link he has in his article.
That being said, he lays out in his article that “(DGVT) provides us with enough insight into which defensemen are keeping pucks out of their own net”, and even gives a bit of reference with the DGVTs Duncan Keith, Mike Green, and Jeff Schultz.

Although he doesn’t establish that GVT is often not a rate-stat, that would be kinda like Damien Cox writing somewhere in his article that he hates Ovechkin and everything he says should be taken with a grain of salt.

The problem I see with any of these statistics is that they are data, not information. Put another way, how does this measure relate to outcomes? To what extent, in this instance, does a high GVT contribute to wins? It is an undeveloped aspect of the art.

I don’t buy this at all. If it’s true, BB should be gone. I think as our D personnel improve so will our team D. My problem wasn’t with the quality of the D. My problem is with the fact that BB always has something to say to detract from what Fehr accomplishes but never seems to see Flash’s weaknesses.

It’s all the PK. The Caps were actually quite a good defensive team 5v5 (5th in the league in goals against 5v5).

4v5 though, the Caps were 26th and trailed only by non-playoff teams.

Fix the PK already.

And pretty much all 4 guys on the ice were trying to clear the zone before the puck was out. At ES that’s not ok, on the PK it’s completely inexcusable.