Summer Fantasy Camp
With the NHL Entry Draft just a week away, thoughts of everyone around the League have turned toward the future, with a keen and watchful eye on a bunch of 18-year-olds who represent the next generation of the NHL. Scouts, experts and bloggers (not that the latter two are mutually exclusive, of course) are running mock drafts. General managers are locked away in war rooms. Fans eagerly await meeting their next big star. Yes, everyone’s gone Draft crazy.
At Japers' Rink, we're in the draftin' spirit as well...sorta. While others are spending plenty of time pumping you full of info on what could be, we thought we'd turn that keen and watchful eye inward for a moment and look at what is. And so, ladies and gentlemen, we’re very proud to present the Inaugural Japers’ Rink Caps Fantasy Draft!
(...hey, it's late June and this is content.)
The Object of the Game
To re-draft the current stable of Capitals into four separate teams, all with the purpose of answering the unanswerable: in a head-to-head tournament, who wins?
The Minutiae
The draft order was randomly assigned using a slightly more state-of-the-art version of the highly technical ping pong system, with the order reversing at the end of each round (i.e. 1, 2, 3, 4, 4, 3, 2, 1, etc). The resulting draft order was as follows:
1. DMG
2. Pepper
3. JP
4. Becca
Each team had to consist of six forwards, four defensemen and one goalie, and no trades of picks or players were allowed. Eligible players included any currently under contract, prospects who don’t yet need to be signed, and RFAs. UFAs who definitely won’t be back (Corvo, Walker) were not eligible, but those who might conceivably be (Morrisonn, Belanger, etc.) were. [Note: the draft was completed before news of Morrison and Theodore was released, thereby still making them eligible.]
The "Tournament"
With the draft complete and the rosters set, each GM will present his/her team, the thought process behind the draft, and a case for why their team should win - all with the assumption that the tournament begins tomorrow and everyone's healthy and ready to go. No lingering playoff maladies here, folks.
A look at your four teams, after the jump:
TEAM JOHANSSON
DMG, General Manager
Lines:
Michael Nylander - Nicklas Backstrom - Marcus Johansson
Jason Chimera - Keith Aucoin - Alexandre Giroux
Dmitri Orlov - John Carlson
Jeff Schultz - Shaone Morrisonn
Braden Holtby
To start out, I'm planning on line combinations of Nylander-Backstrom-Johansson and Chimera-Aucoin-Giroux. I wanted to keep Giroux and Aucoin together and get them out there against as much AHL/marginal NHL quality players as possible, and I think Chimera's a good addition to that line because his speed and tenacity will put some pressure on my opponents defenses and give Giroux and Aucoin time and space to operate. I'm also comfortable with Backstrom centering Nylander and Johansson. Obviously neither of those guys are elite scorers, but I think they can effective in this tournament in secondary roles, especially if they're playing with one of the NHL's best pivots.
On defense I'm putting Carlson with Orlov and Schultz with Morrisonn. The biggest concern was who to put with the inexperienced Orlov, and since I think Carlson's my most well-rounded defenseman, I thought he'd be a good bet. I was somewhat tempted to stick Schultz with Orlov since he's such a solid positional player who prioritizes avoiding mistakes, but ultimately I was worried his relative lack of foot speed and agility would prove problematic if he also had to cover for rookie mistakes.
How the Draft Went:
I'm somewhat torn on my draft results. On the one hand I picked up Backstrom, I have three legitimate NHL defensemen, and I have an overall solid forward group (if Giroux, Aucoin, and Nylander can produce in the AHL, I figure they can produce in this tournament). The only thing I'm not thrilled about is Holtby, but there wasn't a ton I could do about that given where I was picking. Plus, though he's never guys like Ovechkin or Green, Holtby did post a .917 save percentage and 2.32 GAA in Hershey this year, so it's not like he can't stop the puck.
Why I'll Win:
I have six forwards who can produce given the quality of competition in this tournament - Backstrom will be simply dominant and provide good first line production, and I'm not too worried Giroux and Aucoin can't replicate their success against my opposition, given the plethora of AHL caliber - or lower - defensemen...which leads me to my last point, the quality of my defense. No other team sports three legitimate top-six NHL defensemen, and the quality of the last guy on my defensive depth chart is higher than at least two of the other teams. I won't like - I'm not loving the idea of Holtby going up against Ovechkin, Semin, and Green - but I do think my defense has sufficient quality to generally keep the shots reasonable.
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TEAM TINORDI
Pepper, General Manager
Lines:
Alex Ovechkin - Mathieu Perreault - Andrew Gordon
Brooks Laich - Steven Pinizzotto - Matt Bradley
Tom Poti - Patrick Wey
Patrick McNeill - Sean Collins
How the Draft Went:
Like J.P., having the second pick prevented my team from having any consecutive selections out of our snake draft. But I felt like we got the jump on Team Langway a few times, like Brian Burke and Bryan Murray at the draft tables, in snagging Mathieu Perreault and Matt Bradley just before Langway picks. Things changed a bit in the later rounds, where J.P. got the jump on me in selecting Tyler Sloan and Kyle Wilson.
Alex Ovechkin was an obvious second selection. After that, Becca's goalie pick compelled me to draft Jose Theodore, who I thought was the safest second goalie pick, Caps' playoff record be damned. (We also conducted this draft before Neuvy's second Calder Cup victory.) Knowing that our team needed more veteran leadership with the lower ranks being filled with Bears and prospects who may not yet have played pro, I chose Brooksy to anchor line two, and Tom Poti to lead the defense. Then recognizing the need to nab a playmaking center, I took who I thought has the best natural ability and upside at the position in Matthieu Perreault. Andrew Gordon, with his crash-the-net style and boundless energy, rounds out line one and fills a Mike Knuble-type role. The defense is green (and not Green) but Collins has NHL experience and Patrick McNeill was a horse for Hershey in the later playoff rounds, and scored two goals in the Calder Cup clincher.
Why I'll Win:
In a word, Ovechkin. (Good lord, let it not be another tournament loss for the guy in calendar year 2010.)
Ok, in many words. We've got a balanced top line of speed, skill, and gritty net presence, and a crash-and-bang second line of good skaters to consistently work the corners and wear down the opposition. And the best two left wings in the tourney.
Team Johansson will be too busy passing the puck amongst themselves on the top line, and no other team has a legit playmaker at first line center.
Defense-wise, Team Tinner has as much NHL experience as the other squads, and Poti and Collins can effectively kill penalties better than any other squad save Team Johansson's. To round out the D corps, if Patrick Wey is good enough for Team USA, he's good enough for me.
Theodore has something to prove and he'll rise to the occasion while the other young 'tenders cave under such enormous pressure as this tournament surely will create.
If we don't win, at least our opponents will be thoroughly battered and bruised.
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TEAM LANGWAY
JP, General Manager
Lines:
Tomas Fleischmann - Eric Belanger - Eric Fehr
Stefan Della Rovere - Kyle Wilson - Quintin Laing
Mike Green - Milan Jurcina
John Erskine - Tyler Sloan
I've kept the "F Street" wingers together flanking Belanger, and have a smart, gritty second line with an agitator who will keep opponents' heads on a swivel. My D-pairings each feature a good balance of skating ability and size, not to mention Green's elite offensive skills, which are unparalleled in the organization (and League, for that matter).
How the Draft Went:
With the third pick, I got the third-best player on the team, but felt that I was somewhat reactive rather than proactive the rest of the way. Becca took a goalie, so I couldn't risk passing on one and getting the worst goalie of the four, so I took Neuvy (who I think is the best of the group anyway). I was scrambling a bit for forwards after that, but ended up with a strong squad.
Why I'll Win:
Experience and balance. I've got two 20-goal scorers, and everyone on the team with the exception of Delly had at least two NHL points this season. My blueliners were all NHLers from opening night to the final buzzer sounded in April (while other teams have guys who couldn't even break Hershey's lineup) and bring a good balance of skating ability and size, and I've got the best goalie in the organization (who is currently hot, mind you). Any worries about Fleischmann not producing are mitigated by the fact that he's facing some pretty soft defenses. I've got this one locked up.
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TEAM MILLER
Becca, General Manager
Alexander Semin - Brendan Morrison - Mike Knuble
Boyd Gordon - David Steckel - Jay Beagle
Karl Alzner - Josh Godfrey
Zach Miskovic - Joe Finley
Morrison and Knuble have played together a lot in their careers and have some nice chemistry - but neither one is particularly flashy (well...most of the time). Enter Alexander Semin, probably one of the best pure goal-scorers in the League. He'd be able to create plays without battling for the puck with his linemates, and Knuble would have plenty of rebounds and just-wide shots to clean up around the net. And on my second line I've basically got a revised version of the Bradley-Steckel-Gordon line that's worked so well in the past, with a younger version of Matt Bradley in Jay Beagle.
I'll be looking for Alzner and Godfrey to recapture their Summit Series magic from 2007, while Miskovic and Finley should provide enough scrappy energy and size to be a decent second pair. And of course Varlamov’s no slouch in net.
How the Draft Went:
It definitely started out better than it ended. I took what I thought was the best player left after Ovechkin, Backstrom and Green were gone when I picked Semin fourth, so my offense was locked up. And knowing my team would be facing that kind of offensive firepower I made sure to lock down my goaltending and my stud defenseman right away, too. I got some of the forwards I wanted that I thought would fit well together, too…but then things went off the tracks a bit when my only defenseman was Alzner and the others were quickly snapped up. The result: a very young defensive corps mined from the depths of the organization.
Why I'll Win:
The idea of watching Semin skate around Mike Green, narrowly skirt a John Carlson check attempt or pick off a failed Poti-clear is kind of intriguing. With Mike Knuble patrolling the net, pouncing on rebounds from Semin’s blistering shot or corralling the ones that went just wide, the first line's good to go. And once they're done making their opponents run around until they’re dizzy, we bring in the ultimate checking line – great on faceoffs, great along the boards, and what they lack in offensive skill they more than make up for in heart and work ethic. As an added bonus, Knuble and Semin are free to take ill-advised penalties at the worst possible times, secure in the knowledge that the penalty killers I’ve assembled (including Knuble and Semin themselves) will bail them out more often than not.
Now I know what you’re all thinking – that blueline is troubling. Sure, my defense is still going through puberty and has a grand total of 51 NHL games under their collective belts (all of which can be attributed to one player). But what you might call young and inexperienced, I call fresh and energetic. And there’s something to be said for trial by fire. There’s no better way to earn your stripes than to take on someone like Ovechkin one-on-one. Besides, if (when?) he manages to beats them, Varlamov’s got their back.
And hey, if all else fails Finley can just throw some sort of farming equipment at the opponent and be done with it. That’s legal, right?
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The Outcome
Oddly enough, calls to George McPhee requesting that this tournament actually be played were not returned - so, dear readers, we are forced delighted to leave the results in your oh-so-capable hands. Examine each case, peruse the rosters, and decide which team will have their names engraved on the Japers' Rink Cup!
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Why don’t you jump on the team and come on in for the big win?
Vote JP.
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I got a vote! And it wasn’t me!!
Ah, I love the smell of sympathy in the morning…it smells like…victory.
Becca! Your blueline will have amazing beards and will punch the opposition, I like it. How can you lose?
Twitter!!!1
Reppin' Team Tyler yo.
Team Johansson strengths… you’ll get great recipes for Swedish meatballs and gravlax.
Team Johansson weaknesses… Alexandre Giroux only scores in the AHL
Team Tinordi strengths… won’t be delayed by flat tires on way to rink
Team Tinordi weaknesses… Theodore will be pulled in the second comment
Team Langway strengths… Great depth in players named “Eric”
Team Langway weaknesses… the team name — have you ever seen a collection of less Langwayesque defensemen than this?
Team Miller strengths… Alzner can block shots with playoff beard
Team Miller weaknesses… lawn mower throwing not within the rules
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by ThePeerless on Jun 18, 2010 11:12 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
Team Langway weaknesses… the team name — have you ever seen a collection of less Langwayesque defensemen than this?
Yes – see the other three squads.
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by J.P. on Jun 18, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I voted Pepper. Veteran goalie and a great mix of physicality and skill among the forwards. I would have picked DMG but the goalie swung it in Pepper’s favor.
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on Jun 18, 2010 11:16 AM EDT reply actions
Ovechkin – MattyP – A. Gordon is actually really intriguing. You’ve got my vote, Peps.
by DrinkingPartner on Jun 18, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously, though…
Team Miller has the best top line (slightly ahead of Team Tinordi)
Team Miller has the best second line
Team Johansson has the best top D-pair (slightly better than Team Langway)
Team Johansson has the best second D-pair
But in the end…

I’ve got two championships… what do you other moonyoks have?!
Team Langway.
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by ThePeerless on Jun 18, 2010 11:25 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
W00t! Peerless is a kingmaker… listen to his wisdom!
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Boooooo…whatever, my forwards are the best and we KNOW that’s what wins championships. Scoring. If you have good offense, it can never, ever be stopped. Ever.
my forwards are the best and we KNOW that’s what wins championships.
Sure, if championships were won in December.
They're coming.
by Bald Pollack on Jun 18, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Shhhh…the best offense always wins, and the best team always wins.
Don’t rain on my parade here, pal, I’ve got Godfrey as part of my top D pair.
He hasn’t been sent down to OFB yet?
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by ThePeerless on Jun 18, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
If scoring’ the thing, better hope Varlamov scores a couple. After that first line, there might not be another goal on the whole squad.
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by ThePeerless on Jun 18, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey, Knuble and Gordon combined for a couple of shorthanded goals in the playoffs if you recall.
If we’re not scoring, my strategy will be to send Semin to the box, put those two out there and watch magic happen, my friend. The good thing is I probably won’t even have to SEND him, he’ll probably take a lazy hooking call in the offensive zone! My job is so easy.
Knuble’s got to skate 40 minutes for that team… that’s past his bedtime
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by ThePeerless on Jun 18, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Selective use of criteria?
Team Johansson weaknesses… Alexandre Giroux only scores in the AHL
I waited all year for this?
I’m surprised nobody selected the new AHL Playoff MVP Chris Bourque.
by DrinkingPartner on Jun 18, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I voted for Pepper on the grounds that he easily has the most charming, charismatic team in the league, and that counts for a lot in my fantasy. Brooksie and Bradley led the team in charisma for the 09-10 season, and don’t count out burgeoning charisma rookies, Andrew Gordon and Matty Perreault. Plus, there is Theo’s feel-good story and Ovechkin’s polarizing appeal.
These players are the kind of guys you would want to sit down and have a beer with. They shake hands, kiss babies, and change tires. It’s a team that the working man can get behind. Definitely worthy of any constituent’s vote.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Jun 18, 2010 11:26 AM EDT reply actions
Plus, know Laich, know win.
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on Jun 18, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Pepper’s is the Dubya of the lot…
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Wow, I voted Pepper because he’s got a solid scoring line and a solid checking line, plus a goalie with something to prove. But your reasons are more fun.
by CapitalCentre on Jun 18, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
They shake hands, kiss babies, and change tires.
Alternatively, the guys on J.P.’s team change hands, shake babies, and kiss tires.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Jun 18, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
The charisma advantage extends all the way up to the GM, of course.
by Stephen Pepper on Jun 18, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
D’s team is way too green. Mackan? Orlov? Holtby? Experience matters.
And he’s got no legit finishers.
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Against Ty Sloan, Joe Finley, and Sean Collins I’d say Grioux is a legit finisher.
I waited all year for this?
by Rob Parker on Jun 18, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Yes, he’ll light up Pepper’s and Becca’s teams. Agreed.
But with my top-four and Neuvy, I feel OK (especially with my forwards playing a little D).
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You’re team isn’t bad but it’s one line and one D pair. Giroux and Aucoin can definitely exploit Sloskine, especially with Chimera leading the forecheck. I think you vastly overestimate your second D pair.
I waited all year for this?
I’d take Sloskine against Aucoin and Giroux as a favorable match-up for me, actually. And I’ve got Neuvy – he’s a wall.
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I love Neuvy, so I’m not arguing that. But second unit against second unit I think DMG dominates. I’m not sure your second unit gets the puck across the redline.
I waited all year for this?
Mike Green’s on my second unit, too – he never leaves the ice, remember? Sloan to F, Green double-shifted. Problem solved.
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And Pepper’s and Becca’s bluelines are atrocious.
My team’s a no-brainer.
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as in “lack of hockey sense?”
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by ThePeerless on Jun 18, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Voted DMG
His is the only adequate D. J.P. can fool himself into thinking his bottom pair is actually NHL caliber, but we all know that’s not true. Giroux may suck in the NHL, but this isn’t against NHL squads. Backstrom alone makes that top line dangerous and considering the D they’ll be facing Aucoin/Giroux should be adequate.
I was somewhat tempted to stick Schultz with Orlov since he’s such a solid positional player who prioritizes avoiding mistakes, but ultimately I was worried his relative lack of foot speed and agility would prove problematic if he also had to cover for rookie mistakes.
So you’re also not a fan of Green/Schultz?
With Mike Knuble patrolling the net, pouncing on rebounds from Semin’s blistering shot or corralling the ones that went just wide, the first line’s good to go.
That would make sense if Semin produced rebounds. But he usually shoots it into the goalie’s glove, into the top corner, or off the glass. You may get a fluke bounce off the glass back in front, but not likely.
I waited all year for this?
J.P. can fool himself into thinking his bottom pair is actually NHL caliber
Selective use of criteria?
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How so? I’ve been pretty consistent that Sloskine is not a legitimate option for an NHL contender. And given who played when push came to shove it looks like GMGM and BB agree.
I waited all year for this?
No, I agree with that. But one second you’re talking about those two not being NHL-calibre, and the next you’re talking about how great Giroux will be in this tourney since it’s not against all NHL talent.
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Ah gotcha. Yeah, it’s not all NHL caliber, but I was commenting specifically on this:
My blueliners were all NHLers from opening night to the final buzzer sounded in April
Technically they were collecting NHL paychecks, but both were passed by guys that spent all year in the AHL.
I waited all year for this?
Well, yeah. It’s called spin.
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Sure. But considering that my 2D pair is better than two other teams’ top pair, and given my G, I don’t see it as anything close to fatal.
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DMG as well
c’mon, how can any other second line compare when you have a beast like Chimmer rushing the puck so the best combo in the A can settle in behind his dust. Chimme might not finish but Acoin and G-poo will feast on his leavings.
My one concern….circles becoming a Scandanavian fad with the power of ABBA
A danger to myself and others on the ice
by can't skate on Jun 18, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Peppa! (Team Tinordi)
Jose, Ovie, Laich, Bradley, Poti…this team can’t lose! The D is well behind both JP and DMG, but well ahead of Beccas “D” :-). The overall collections of forwards is impressive. Landslide I says.
Why didn’t (sniff) anyone pick (sniff, sniff) me?
Signed,
Anton
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Because you suck. But why nobody picked me is a real head-scratcher.
Signed,
Cody
(This is who DMG should have picked for that top line scorer instead of Nyls.)
I waited all year for this?
There was a Cody issue… Becca drafted too many Fs (including Cody), so no one could draft him, then she had to dump him after the draft to pick up D.
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And nobody realized she had gone over 6Fs? Terrible. It hurts me to see Nyls on any of these teams and I think Cody would be an upgrade over at least one F on each team.
I waited all year for this?
Hey, don’t pin that on me. Cody was my very last pick – D picked Nylander way before Eakin’s name even got thrown around.
Ah, right. It was CBo you took the round earlier. Eakin was your 8th F.
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Sheesh. I may have to revoke my vote for DMG solely because he picked Nyls willingly. I assumed that was the last pick of the draft. I’d take CBo or Eakin over Nyls.
I waited all year for this?
Nope. He was being too clever by half.
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He should have been. CBo and Eakin are still relatively unaccomplished but at least it gets you a shooter on that top line. Nyls is literally a waste of a roster spot. Then again, he did do alright against AHL competition also…
I waited all year for this?
Nope. He was being too clever by half.
He had the first pick and didn’t take the best hockey player in the world.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jun 18, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Can’t believe how little love a game-changer like Green is getting here. He’d be this tourney’s Conn Smythe. Oh, wait, it’s a playoff – nevermind.
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So we’ve got the vote, but if you have thoughts on rankings (1-4), I’d be interested in hearing those, too.
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DMG, J.P., Pepper, Becca. The tough call is between J.P. and Pepper but I went with the better D corps. Pepper has the best F corps but I’m not sure how he keeps pucks out of the net. Plus, his 1C is just too small.
I waited all year for this?
Truth be told, that’s the order I’d have us in as well.
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Game 1… Team Johansson v. Team Tinordi
Opening face off… Backstrom vs. Perreault. The puck is dropped. Neither win the draw. Ovechkin bowls both over going after the puck, is whistled for charging, steamrolling, barelling over, not playing nice, is given a ten minute, a game misconduct, and is suspended for remainder of tournament.
Next faceoff, puck squirts to Nylander, who skates into the zone, curls off, and looks for open teammate. Finding none, he circles, looking for open teammate. Finding none, he circles, looking for open teammate…
(we now pick up the action, later in the period)
…he circles, looking for open teammate. Finding none, he circles… Pinizzotto has had enough, clubs Nylander over the head with his stick, just because he felt like it. Regulation ends in scoreless tie, no shots on goal for either team. Overtime ends in scoreless fashion, teams having been bored to death with Nylander skating exhibition.
Shootout…
Perreault – no
Backstrom – no
Gordon – no
Johansson – no
Laich, no
Giroux – hell no
…and on it goes…
Matt Bradley hops over the boards on his own, takes shot. But hey, that only worked once.
John Carlson humbly approaches the center dot, strides once… twice… three times… picks up the puck… skates purposefully down ice, his steely gaze fixed on Jose Theodore as he relentlessly moves closer… he fires…

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by ThePeerless on Jun 18, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 14 recs
By the way, if anyone’s dying to see the “draft” order, where each player was taken, you can look at it here – it’s linked to in the post itself, too, but I thought I’d spell it out a bit more clearly.
You’re ahead of me now? Unacceptable. I blame your shameless begging on Twitter.
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I point to your scorning of the Semin lobby.
They're coming.
by Bald Pollack on Jun 18, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Ohh, good call – it’s the Semin Lobby voting for the team with their guy on it. Duh. Should’ve seen this one coming a mile away…
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The Semin Lobby is notoriously fashionably late to these things.
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by J.P. on Jun 18, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I’m curious how the draft went down. E-mail? Instant messenger? Secret cloak and dagger meeting?
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Jun 18, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Smoke signals.
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on Jun 18, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Now that we’ve exhausted the snarky answers – pretty basic, just via email. We did have code names, though, in case someone intercepted our emails.
Oh, and for some reason D was wearing fishnet stockings the whole time…no clue why.
I haven’t even begun to exhast the snarky answers.
Pony Express. Morse Code. OFB Interns.
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J.P., The Big Cheese
DMG., aka Lieutenant Pain
Pepper, aka Scoville Unit
Becca H, aka Go Habs Go!
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on Jun 18, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice. I would have thought PPP was guest-blogging.
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on Jun 18, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
SnagFilms
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by ThePeerless on Jun 18, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Additional archaic form of communication.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Jun 18, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I really like Becca’s forwards, but DMG has the goods everywhere.
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by J.P. on Jun 18, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I really like Becca’s forwards, but DMG’s team has the goods everywhere.
Yeah, fixed now.
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by red army line on Jun 18, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Good call. Because if it came down to the ladies over who has the goods, DMG or my forwards? I’ve got sexy forwards. Just sayin’.
And you wouldn’t get permission to have that tournament actually be played, either.
by CapitalCentre on Jun 18, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
The people that picked Becca really need to speak up. Is this the pity vote, the Semin Lobby, or a combination? I just can’t see how any team with Finley and Godfrey is going to stop any of these other teams.
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I just can’t see how any team with Finley and Godfrey is going to stop any of these other teams.
I might not be able to stop other teams…

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by ThePeerless on Jun 18, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Finley is a forward now, correct?
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by red army line on Jun 18, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, I’m not up to date—what of that forward experiment with Finley?
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by red army line on Jun 18, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they moved him back to D in the ECHL. But he played F in the Caps camp and his brief stop in HER. Either way, for this exercise Becca has him as a D.
I waited all year for this?
yes but they have Varly! Mostly I was just ignoring the defensemen, hoping Varly would be his amazing self to cover up for them. I also like the idea of going shorthanded and letting Semin, Knubble, and Gordon score shorties. But mostly it was because of Varly.
by vtcapsfan99 on Jun 18, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think any of the goalies stand out enough to be difference makers. You could swap the goalies in any way and it wouldn’t change how I see it. Holtby is the least proven/worst of the lot, but he can stop a puck and he’s got the best team in front of him.
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you looking at rationally. Examine my Varly avatar.
by vtcapsfan99 on Jun 18, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
The real benefit of Holtby was that after the first three goalies were taken – and each of them is markedly better than Holbty right now – D didn’t have to worry about taking a G until the very last pick, as none of us could take another. From the perspective of drafting a fantasy sports team, D did fantastically, from taking the best guy at the shallowest position with the first pick overall on through.
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Honestly, as much as I’ve been picking on my own team I think my forwards and my goalie can compete with – and in some cases, top – those of the other teams. Three of my four defensemen aren’t great but Miskovic is an AHLer, he’s not that bad, and Alzner’s capable of shutting down the top line. And I think Varly’s capable of stopping Ovechkin, Backstrom and Green – when he can’t, I think the offense could be matched.
And yes, now I’m starting to get a bit defensive of my carefully selected (and defensively shallow) team.
Miskovic played on the bottom pair all year, right? At best was a 4D in HER? I’m not really buying him as competent to handle the NHL forwards (though you are hiding him on the second pair). Saying Alzner can shut down these top lines is extremely optimistic. I’m as big an Alzner fan as there is and I wouldn’t make that claim; especially when he has an ECHL D paired with him. Your second line has 0 goal potential, save for an odd SHG from Boyd. So basically you are relying on hot Semin. When has that failed?
I waited all year for this?
Maybe not shut down, but I totally have faith in Alzner’s ability to at least minimize the destruction from someone like Ovechkin (and some of what he can’t, Varlamov can).
As for my second line, the offensive output from Gordo and Steckel isn’t that far behind what any of the other team’s could produce – if you look, there’s really only one guy on each of those second lines that has proven offensive ability (and generally with better linemates). A healthy Gordo’s capable of 10+ goals, as is a healthy Steckel w/ more ice time.
Plus I think the scoring on my top line is more balanced than anyone else’s. Even without playing beside Ovechkin and Backstrom I’d say Knuble’s a 15-20+ goal guy, Morrison can chip in a few and I don’t think any of the other teams are capable of containing Semin. None of them have any Habs, for one.
You’ve paired Alzner with Josh Godfrey, ahead of a Miskovic-Finley pairing. Your D isn’t minimizing any destruction.
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by J.P. on Jun 18, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hey, if Alzner does his job and Godfrey stays out of the way and saves his energy for firing cannons on the power play, they might be able to minimize some.
And I’d like to point out that I have only one AHL-level forward as compared to 3, 4 and 2 1/2 (Mackan’s the 1/2) AHL-level forwards on your teams. You don’t think Semin, Knuble, Morrison, Gordon and Steckel can match any destruction rendered by Ovechkin? If nothing else, my lines will mesh better because they’ve played together before. D’s got 3 Swedish centers (or 2 1/2…Nyles is the 1/2) on one line, for crying out loud.
Your forwards are decent enough, for sure.
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They just won’t have the puck ever. Her most frequent clear is going to be the center ice face off.
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by Rob Parker on Jun 18, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lies. I’m counting on them to pick off more than a few failed Poti-clears…and you don’t think Green will cough up the puck at the blueline from time to time? And those are the good defensemen.
Poti clears happen after you get possession in the other end. You better win the opening face off and take the puck deep, because once it goes in your end it’s not coming out. Again, you have TWO ECHL D. The only 2 on any roster. One of them is charitably classified as a D because his only chance playing with NHL (or even AHL) competition is to be a fighter. The other was drafted because of his huge shot, not his defensive acumen.
I waited all year for this?
He may not be able to score, but B-Mo can win draws – getting it into the other end won’t be an issue. And what makes you think Orlov’s going to be any better at keeping the puck out of his own end? What makes you think Flash or Green won’t turn the puck over repeatedly? You don’t think Alzner can take care of Giroux?
Anyway, sometimes a good defense is having the whole team be committed to keeping the puck in the other zone. I’m confident in my forwards to be supportive, to wear out the other team so all they can do is clear, change and get back to fighting off the cycle.
Well you’re picking the worst D on DMG’s squad. If he were relying on Orlov I’d be with you, but his D is head and shoulders above yours. Orlov is at least better than your ECHL boys, and is probably close to where Miskovic is.
I think Flash sucks, that’s clear. Green may turn the puck over, but he’s going to do far more damage against your team than he is going to help you with turnovers.
I waited all year for this?
Oh, and Alzner is your top pair. He’ll be facing Baxter and the Swedes. No, I don’t think Alzner can handle Baxter right now, especially not with an ECHL partner.
I waited all year for this?
I think Alzner would be fine against Nicky – if I didn’t, I’d be much more nervous about him facing the rest of the NHL next year. Hell, Sloan was able to play pretty convincingly against Crosby – you don’t think Alzner is better than Sloan?
Before you think I’m a total moron, by the way, you should check out how the draft went – the D went in flurries, until there was literally no one left. I’m just working with what I’ve got, and I think my forwards can compensate for where my defense may be lacking.
Sloan was able to play pretty convincingly against Crosby
I’m throwing a flag on this one. There may have been moments of acceptability, but recall that Snovechkin goal and realize that Sloan-Crosby is not a match-up that is destined to allow Caps fans to keep their lunches down for long.
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I think Alzner would be fine against Nicky – if I didn’t, I’d be much more nervous about him facing the rest of the NHL next year. Hell, Sloan was able to play pretty convincingly against Crosby – you don’t think Alzner is better than Sloan?
This is one of the most ridiculous arguments I’ve ever read. There’s spin, and then there’s this. Crazy talk. Only a person that has two rooting interests in one conference could warp their mind into such a conclusion.
First off, Baxter isn’t just any NHL player. He’s elite. I trust Alzner against most NHL players, but he’s not going to be our shutdown guy yet and he’s not going to face the elite players on the other team. Yet. Second, Sloan was not that convincing against Crosby. He had the one game where he looked OK, but then there was the Snowmageddon game where he just gave the puck to Crosby. He’s terrible with the puck, and not that great without the puck. Obviously I think Alzner is better than Sloan, but this paragraph says you need a shrink.
I waited all year for this?
First of all, can we leave the rooting interests out of this for once? I’m a Caps girl first and foremost, and you know it. Besides, you root for the Leafs and I still take what you say somewhat seriously. My god, at least a) I have a legit reason to like Mtl (being that I lived there for 4 years) and b) my “other” team made two of the best in the East look pathetic in the playoffs, while yours just made themselves look pathetic.
In other words, keep your argument to why you think my “JRHL” team sucks and not why the fact that I happen to enjoy the Habs from time to time makes me insane, deal?
He had the one game where he looked OK
And it’s a tournament, and Alzner would likely only be facing Backstrom once as well. Do I think he could handle Backstrom night in and night out? Maybe, maybe not, I haven’t really seen him against the League’s best enough to know and neither have you. My point was that Sloan managed to corral Crosby for at least one game – which is one more than I ever expected – and I’d put Backstrom on the same level as Crosby, with Alzner way above Sloan. Meaning it’s possible.
Well I’m not a Leafs fan, but OK. I said I liked them when I was young and stopped rooting for them when they moved East.
You keep focusing on your one legitimate defender. Alzner isn’t the problem I have. It’s the two ECHL guys and the guy who is a bottom pair AHL guy. I still dispute your characterization that Sloan “corralled” Crosby, even for one game. And that’s not even considering that Sloan was being helped by a legitimate NHL D partner. Alzner is not so good that he’s going to carry dead weight.
I waited all year for this?
I don’t know how you could watch this season and think Steckel is a 10 goal scorer.
I waited all year for this?
He had it. It was 30 goals. In Hershey.
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That’s not what I’m arguing at all – I’d take Steckel over Wilson. Just sayin’ that when you look at Stecks’ career (at every level), that 30-goal season was a bit of an anomoly. I’d wager heavily that he never hits 20 in the NHL.
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I’d wager whatever anyone wants to wager that he never hits 20 in the NHL.
I waited all year for this?
…yeah, I was kidding about the 20 goals. But not 10, I think that’s totally within reach for him. That’s all I was saying.
I think I like Becca’s team the most. I feel like that is the most balanced set of forwards, and to make up for the admittedly weak defense, she has the best goalie available in Varlamov. DMG has a great defense, but his goaltender is Holtby, who I think is the weakest of the bunch. Pepper has a solid team, but his best defenseman is Tom Poti. JP has a great team too, but other that Green, I don’t think his D could keep up with Becca’s Forwards.
So DMG had the first pick and didn’t take Ovechkin?
You’re skating two lines and you don’t want the best player (or at least co-best player) in the world?
Choking since 1985.
I buy that. Positional scarcity matters in a draft – the fall-off from the top center to the second or third center is much greater than the fall-off from the top LW to the second or third LW (same for RW, D and G).
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Quit jobbing my team – Flash in the 4th round is great value in this draft.
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You honestly thought you’d get away with having Flash and not getting jobbed for it? I don’t care where you drafted him, an invisible roster spot is hardly great value.
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by Rob Parker on Jun 18, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Wasn’t invisible during the regular season.
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No, but I have little doubt in his ability to produce in this scenario. He was, after all, Bruce’s Alex Ovechkin in the A.
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Wasn’t invisible during the regular season.
Did IRtR draft this team? (I keed)
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by Bald Pollack on Jun 18, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
What is this “playoff” of which you speak? Everyone just plays everyone else a bunch of times and the team with the most points in the standings at the end wins. Isn’t that how they do it in the NHL?
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Yeah, because a playoff would be too small a sample size to really be meaningful so you just draw conclusions from the larger sample.
I waited all year for this?
Yeah, the drop off from Ovechkin to the other wingers is a lot small than from Backstrom to the other centers.
Plus, against this competition, I think Backstrom can weave enough magic to make anyone a scorer.
Plus, againstthisany competition, I think Backstrom can weave enough magic to make anyone a scorer.
FTFY
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by J.P. on Jun 18, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nylander plays center, Backstrom on the wing until he’s comfortable and ready to play center at this level.
/Hanlon’d
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by J.P. on Jun 18, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Positional scarcity
I don’t buy it.
Possible centers: Backstrom, Laich, Perreault, Aucoin, Wilson, Steckel, Gordon, Fleischmann, Mackan, Nylander
Possible LW: Ovi, Semin, Laich, Chimmer, Flash, and not a whole lot more. Hell, some folks are playing Boyd Gordon and SDR there.
Give me the centers. Ovi next to Perreault scares me a lot more than Nylander next to Backstrom.
I haven’t voted yet, and I may be forced to go with DMG’s defense and Holtby, but it kills me to vote for his forwards.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jun 18, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
The face of your campaign.

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by zephyr on Jun 18, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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by J.P. on Jun 18, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
(And you forgot Belanger and Mo as centers)
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Odd to play Delly against NHL players. Kid couldn’t make Hershey’s squad this spring, when Cody Eakin did. He’s just not ready yet.
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by Gould Old Days on Jun 18, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Different positions, different roles.
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all I’m saying is that Delly is considered one of the top 8 LW in the organization according to this drafting, and he doesn’t belong anywhere near the NHL within the next 2 years. The 8th best center in the org is a lot better than that, right now — the 8th best center was more than capable of playing for Hershey this year.
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by Gould Old Days on Jun 18, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t disagree with that. But I was drafting for a certain type of player there and got what I wanted (and neither one of them is ready to play against NHL players consistently, but again, that’s not what this is about).
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Oh, I’m saying Eakin isn’t ready either. My point is Eakin is further along than Delly, and Eakin isn’t ready.
The bottom line is that this organization is actually better off with depth at Center than LW right now. Perhaps Delly and Eakin was a bad example.
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by Gould Old Days on Jun 18, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, there’s depth and there’s quality of depth. The Caps were deep at D this past season, for example, but the depth was in back-end Ds and not really up top. The depth at center in the organization right now isn’t in top-end skill guys (other than Backstrom and a couple of kids we’re hoping/praying for). At LW, there’s more high-end talent at the moment.
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I was in the midst of typing this same idea. How many of the C listed are you comfortable with having in a scoring role, in the NHL, this coming year? Really it’s just Backstrom.
But for LW there’s Ovi, Semin, Laich, and during the regular season, Flash.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jun 18, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
For this tournament, I’d be happy with any of Backstrom, Laich, Aucoin, Perreault, Fleischmann, Morrison, Belanger, Mackan, or even Wilson in a scoring/setup role as a C. That’s nine, and it doesn’t include the checking centers Steckel, Gordon and Beagle, or Nylander.
I don’t think there’s another position that deep on the team, for this purpose.
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by Gould Old Days on Jun 18, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Obviously quality plays a role, too. I think all of my forwards are capable of doing well in this tournament, and that’s not something I think I would be able to say if I’d drafted differently.
Plus, I knew there was going to be a dearth of finishers and I figured it made sense to get the playmaking given that fact.
“dearth of finishers”
This organization scored 660 AHL/NHL goals this past regular season! How’d they do it with no finishers?
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And if there were a dearth of finishers wouldn’t you want to get at least one of those guys?
I waited all year for this?
Oversimplification and poor wording on my part. What I mean is, I think there are basically two (other) guys on the roster who can create goal scoring chances for themselves without any help – Semin and Ovechkin.
I figured, given my draft position and the need I saw to take ‘D’ early on, that I would wind up getting mediocre finishers. By having Backstrom I think I can turn everyone on that line into a decent offensive threat, whereas if I had Ovechkin and no one with any playmaking skills I’d have one elite goal scorer and a bunch of deadweight (obviously this was before I knew I’d be getting Giroux and Aucoin).
Poorly worded on my part. Didn’t mean to imply the organization lacks them, meant that I didn’t think I’d have much chance at any of the good ones, but that there would be enough okay ones to mitigate that fact.
I knew I’d be drafting two defensemen with my back to back picks in rounds 2 and 3; my next pick wasn’t until the last one in round 4. By then 15 guys would have been off the board and I figured I’d better off with an elite playmaker and some decent scorers than an elite scorer and nothing in terms of playmaking skill.
Please. 29th, My team could totally take the Oilers.
by Becca H on Jun 18, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, I did vote for you! The others though.. hmm.. I mean … the Oilers do have a couple NHL caliber players.
by TFG on Jun 18, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pepper Wins...
He has:
The aweseomness that is Brooks Laich
The awesomerness that is Matt Bradley
Matt Bradley Jr. in Pinizzotto
Oh, and add to that… Alex Ovechkin.
Well, duh.
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I’m shocked J.P. isn’t doing better in the voting. I figured that as the only team with four guys who played defense in the NHL and with the best goalie (obviously, just an opinion), he’d be a frontrunner.
Just because they do play in the NHL doesn’t mean they should play in the NHL.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jun 18, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
True, but two of the other three teams are sporting defenses that are 3/4 clear minor league players.
This is true. I was just disputing the idea that Sloskine are actual NHL defenders.
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I went with Pepper. In little two line tournaments like this great forwards and a goalie make the difference.
Girouix + Nylander + Holtby ruined DMGs team for me.
JPs team is the most solid top to bottom but this is going to be played wide open and loose (that’s what she said?) — IRL, I just don’t see his team beating Peppers in a tournament unless that tournament is the actual Stanley Cup Playoffs.
I don’t know what to say about Beccas team. Knuble\Varly\Semin makes it look like it has potential but all of the other picks just don’t seem to gel to me.
Pepper also has Ovechkin who will be able to easily skate entire games if needed. Probably every other time that second line is out I’d have Brooks at Center taking Pinizzottos spot and have OV say out on LW.
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Knuble\Varly\Semin makes it look like it has potential but all of the other picks just don’t seem to gel to me.
How so? Not snarking, just curious…I thought from a forward perspective I did okay, and I got Alzner as soon as I could. The defense was pieced together from scraps, partially because I had a brain fart and partially because the good (or “good”) D went pretty fast.
I guess I didn’t put that too well. =]
I looked at those forwards and was pretty happy with them as picks but your D was just so bad that even Alzner being one of the pairs didn’t make it look any nicer to me when comparing it with everyone else top line O and top line D.
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Ah. And…yeah. But come on, seriously, look what these boys left me with! They were setting me up to lose. Bastards. It’s like we’re competing or something (vote for me!), I don’t know.
(I feel like I need to keep reiterating how the draft went because, with the exception of a few minor upgrades I didn’t really have much of an option – I just like to point out that I’m really not a moron, I know that my D is the weakest :P)
Well your option was to not start the goalie run with the 5th pick. Given 3 goalies that are all competent, but none are spectacular, I wouldn’t have been the one to break the seal on the goalies. DMG was pretty expert with his use of back to back picks. He got a top D pair, and he got the Aucoin/Giroux tandem. You also took Boyd Gordon when there were non-ECHL D still on the board. I just can’t see him having that kind of value.
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He’s a good faceoff guy, and since as you’ve so kindly pointed out my best bet is to start with possession of the puck, that might be important. Plus I knew against Ovechkin, Backstrom and Green I’d need a guy who could shut down the other team and kill penalties. Gordo’s that guy.
But the logic behind the goalie pick was this – I took Semin, because he was the best player available (in my opinion) among the top picks. Then I took Varly because I knew I’d need a good goalie behind him, because as much as I love him he’s prone to turnovers, with the intent to take a defenseman next. Schultz and Carlson went right away so I took Alzner as a reaction, because HE was the best defenseman left. And so on. Had to fill all the positions, and there were three other people trying to do the same thing…
Honestly looking at it now, the only thing I would have done differently – that I could control – would have been to take either Sloan or Collins (or both) instead of Steckel or Beagle (instead of both). After that the rest of the D were ECHL-caliber or worse.
Well I guess an important question is whether it is Unit 1 v. Unit 1 and Unit 2 v. Unit 2. That’s the assumption I’ve been under. You’re trying to piecemeal the strengths of some of your guys to form some uber-Unit. Either way, I think you overstate Gordo’s shutdown ability against the elite players. Gordon wasn’t exactly playing against dynamite opposition (when his back allowed him to play).
I’d make that change as well.
I waited all year for this?
You call it uber-Unit, I call it creating a team mentality. Who was taken after Gordo that you would have put out to face the other teams’ top forwards?
I’d make that change as well.
…I don’t know how to handle it when we agree, F&B. It scares me.
Well first I want to know if it is Unit 1 v. Unit 1 or if you are doing this line matching. Given that we’re drawing from Caps players, I wouldn’t take the “secure a shutdown defender” route, because we don’t have one.
Instead of Gordon I would have taken Belanger and Mackan for sure, as well as any of the non-ECHL D. And then you took Steckel the next time around and that just seems redundant. No real need to have both of those guys. We can try to convince ourselves that they can form a “shutdown unit” but that’s not really the case.
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I was looking at it more as line-matching, although if you go Unit 1 vs Unit 1 and so on I still think my team matches up well (at least with the forwards). I have 5 NHL-caliber forwards with chemistry against a mixed bag and cobbled-together lines.
I drafted for chemistry as much as for ability, and I know Steckel and Gordon can play together; I actually had my eye on Bradley and/or A. Gordon, first but they went before I could get them. But even with Steckel, that’s a better “shutdown unit” than any other forwards I could have picked.
Wonder if “uber-unit” will garner us some interesting search traffic…
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Hehe. I went through the draft list a bit before I hit the jump to see the completed teams.
You had a lot of back to back picks that could have been used to your advantage. I think if you went Semin and then Green you might have had a much better team.
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Giroux almost ruined it until I looked at the second D pairs he’d play against. Nyls should have ruined it but at least you’ve admitted Eakin would be a better choice. I don’t think Holtby will cost games so that’s not a big deal.
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I have to believe Giroux scores in this tourney, especially on a second line.
But, yeah, should have taken Eakin. Didn’t realize just how good a year he’d had.
Giroux and Aucoin will be in their element; playing minor league defenders.
You didn’t know how good Eakin’s year was? I thought you wrote for a Caps blog or something?
I waited all year for this?
I could see Giroux getting some goals against 1 goalie in this tournament but that goalie is on his own team. We’ve seen how he plays when a game matters and he’s alone on a breakaway against an NHL goalie. How would he play in a fun tournament?
Nylander and Giroux just seem like two very ineffective forwards to me.
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Nylander’s a gamble, but Giroux? Against guys like Erskine, Sloan, Wey, McNeill, etc? If he can tear up the AHL, he can tear up those guys.
Alright, I’ve had enough. Throwing Erskine in with Wey is a bit much, no?
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I’m not saying they’re at the same level. I’m saying I think there’s a level of ability that renders Giroux ineffective and I think they’re both below it.
I think Erskine could contain Giroux. He did an outstanding job of containing actual NHL skaters this past season (albeit in carefully-guarded situations), and Alexandre Giroux is not an actual NHL skater. Neither is Keith Aucoin. Neither is Marcus Johansson.
We can crap on Sloan at will, but the assertion that AHL talent would abuse John Erskine is not really well-supported, IMO.
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Put another way, I don’t think that Alex Giroux is the type of player that gives Erskine trouble. He’s not fast, doesn’t have a quick release, and isn’t shifty.
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Note: that’s “shifty,” not “shitty,” which he more or less is.
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by J.P. on Jun 18, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Notice how I said nothing about the defenders.
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True, but framing it as Giroux versus the goalie isn’t entirely fair. Aucoin’s a pretty good playmaker against the right competition, so it’s not like Giroux will be doing it all himself.
And it’s not like the D in the NHL isn’t an important part of the reason Giroux struggles at this level.
I waited all year for this?
I know, I was just being extra harsh. It sure doesn’t help that he can’t finish a breakaway in the NHL to save his life.
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Yeah, he’s clearly not an NHL player. But neither are the majority of the guys on Unit 2 he’d be facing. And Aucoin has shown the ability to make plays against NHL players so I think that duo could make a pretty solid Unit 2 considering what they’re up against.
I waited all year for this?
I like the cut of you jib, son. How would you like a job pretending to coach a squad of NHLers, AHLers, prospects, and castoffs in an imaginary tournament thought up by a bunch of bloggers?
Indeed, that was the plan.
But I’m not planning the victory parade yet. I wonder how many precincts of Capsland have reported . . .
by Stephen Pepper on Jun 18, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Went with Team Tinner
Line 1)Ovi (see, all you did need was one word : )
Line 2) I can see that second line causing all sorts of havoc and frustration against other lines, with Brads digging in the corners, Pinno getting in players faces, and Laich cashing in at the bakery.
Def) Poti is solid (just keep him off the PK), and McNeill can give you that scoring from the blue line
Goal) I don’t see Varly/Neuvy that much greater than Theo in net, so it’s a wash.
"It hit me on the pants. I had protection. It felt good. Why? I wanted to win."
You had me at no problem Ovechkin….
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jun 18, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
But then you lost me at Patrick Wey
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jun 18, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
100% chance that when my team plays Becca’s, I buy F&B a ticket on-the-glass behind her bench so he can heckle her the entire time.
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Squirt away – Torts really got in trouble for beaning the fan near him with the bottle. As long as you don’t resort to flinging your first line center over the glass, I think you’re in the clear.
Only YOU can prevent idiots from commenting!
by Knee high to a duck on Jun 18, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
…I don’t know, F&B has the ability to make me resort to that. And Morrison IS awfully tiny and easily thrown.
Could someone just have bail money ready for me, in case I get arrested? For injuring Mo, of course, not F&B. I think any injury I caused to him could be ruled as self-defense.
Especially since you’re carrying a brick and have time to take off your socks.
Only YOU can prevent idiots from commenting!
by Knee high to a duck on Jun 18, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
(In this fantasy world, F&B is actually employed as a lawyer. (oh snap!))
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Jun 18, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Btw, my fantasy team has Carrie Milbank as its rinkside reporter, so feel free to vote for me for that.
Becca’s got Smokin’ Al.
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NOW you tell us. That probably would have swayed my vote.
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in all seriousness, I’d have liked to see you all choose a coach, between Boudreau, Woods, Frenchie, Evason, Irbe and Mann.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jun 18, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
You sure you don’t want the Stingrays coach?
I waited all year for this?
by Rob Parker on Jun 18, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
F&B doesn’t own any Habs sweaters.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Jun 18, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs




