Sunday Caps Clips: Caps Even It Up
by J.P. on Apr 18, 2010 9:29 AM EDT
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Your savory breakfast links:
- Recaps of and other assorted musings on last night's win from us, CSN Washington (Masisak, O'Halloran, O'Halloran, Beninati), WaPo (blog, blog, blog, Bog, blog, gamer, column), Vogs, Puck Daddy (and again), NHL.com (Dan Rosen, Shawn P. Roarke), Scott Burnside, DCEx, Darren Eliot, 1067 The Fan, Ed Frankovic, Peerless (and again), RMNB, Inside Hockey, FanHouse, FFODC, MD Pro Sports, Puckhead, Hockey Chronicles, Hockey Mom, StC, Capitals Coming, Caps In Pictures, Caps Snaps and Tic Tac Toe Hockey, and from the Montreal side of things, Montreal Gazette, Habs Inside/Out, EOTP (and again) and Four Habs Fans.
- On Tom Poti's fight. [D.C. Sports Bog, CI, FanHouse]
- So who starts Game 3? It's a question for both teams. [Masisak, FanHouse]
- Alex Ovechkin and Nicklas Backstrom shoot hoops post-game. Poorly. [Gunaxin, D.C. Sports Bog]
- This seems like an appropriate link on a Sunday morning. [On Faith]
- Scalpers outside the VC: providing a needed service or just annoying? [Capitals Outsider]
- A budding star from another local team took in last night's game. [CSN Washington]
- Finally, happy 32nd birthday to Boyd Kane and happy 33rd to Sebastien Charpentier.
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Just clicked the link to the FanHouse story of the fight, and the idiot had Theo in goal.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Is there supposed to be a second Vogs’ link (“and again”)?
It’s weird how the feelings from each fanbase seem so different. Like MTL got hosed and there’s a conspiracy from their side, almost.
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by red army line on Apr 18, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m sure the conspiracy flag will fly if/when we draw the Pens again.
They're coming.
by Bald Pollack on Apr 18, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, honestly, I don’t think anyone here or on EOTP is throwing the conspiracy flag. Just the “they’re an awesome team, they can do no wrong” flag.
Cидни Kросби: Александр Oвечкин, он твой папа теперь
Capitals Coming: for Capitals fans who can bear reading something less intelligent than a story at Japers' Rink
by red army line on Apr 18, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Tin Foil Hat Alert!
You don’t think this quote from the recap of EOTP is throwing the conspiracy flag?
Now to some, it will surely sounds as thought I am discrediting the Capital for winning this game. Make no mistake, I am.
When a team needs to be so blatantly handed momentum by officials when it’s most needed in order to beat an eighth place team that is picking them apart, well good luck to you.
Something dirty went down during that upstairs call after the Kostitsyn goal. Trust you’ll never hear a transcript of it, an explanation, a clarification.
The NHL needs its best showcase teams, and that means the Capitals, Penguins, Hawks to remain around for ratings purposes. What sells the game will not be a second round series with the Habs and Ottawa.
There was a crucial moment in this game where the hoped for scenario was in jeopardy, and something was done about it.
What a fix!
What a freaking snowjob!
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by zephyr on Apr 18, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow, is that what we sound like when we complain about the reffing in a Caps/Pens game? That’s terrible.
Of course the difference is that the league actually has a secret plan to fix games to help the Penguins…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Apr 18, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
The difference being there are actually calls being missed and a legit 2 to 1 PP ratio basically every time out in Caps/Pens instances. Even so there are times when it’s just whining and they deserved to have more PP chances. Complaining when both teams are getting an equal amount of PP’s seems a little ridiculous.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
In all seriousness, watching the Caps/Pens games of the last few years, my main response is that the Caps need to get smarter about not committing as many dumb penalties and they need to get better at drawing them.
I think a big part of the reason that the Caps get called for more penalties than the Pens when they play together is that the Caps commit more (or at least commit theirs more blatantly).
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Apr 18, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d agree with this to a point…like I said, for all the cries over the officiating in the playoff series last year, the only game I seriously had an issue with was Game 3 when the Pens had 6 consecutive PP chances before we got another one and many of the calls we took had similar versions that could have been whistled the other way but didn’t. In a series where one team is threatening to go up 3-0 that they want to go longer it tweaked me. Most of the rest of the series (with the exception of whoever dropping his stick over an extremely weak slash at the end of Game 6) we really had no leg to stand on as far as complaints went.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, there was the objectively missed interference on Brooks Orpik that directly led to the GWG in OT in Game 5, but other than that I agree.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Apr 18, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Orpik runs that play every time too. Occasionally he gets called for it but it’s almost as bad as Pens fans make Detroit out to be.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m of the F&B school of thought, that considering the Caps domination of the series between the 2 teams in the past 2 years (Game 7 notwithstanding), the penalties should be much closer overall (not necessarily game to game). I’m waiting for that regression to the norm that just never seems to happen.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Apr 18, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Again though I think some of it IS a case of us not drawing or not obviously drawing enough calls. There hasn’t been many of the calls against us in the games I’ve really had an issue with…I just felt there could have been some similar calls go the other way against the Pens that haven’t. But there is something to GOD’s point about us needing to do a better job at drawing them.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Something you’ve touched on is it’s not necessarily the calls that they’re making against the Caps, but the calls not called on the Pens. I don’t care if the call a tight game or loose game as long as it is called the same for both teams, which has far too often not been the case.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Apr 18, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
All of which makes this series so refreshing in that even when they’ve been inconsistent at least they’ve been consistently inconsistent both ways.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Disagree. If AO’s slash was obvious enough to get a call, so was Crosby’s cross check. Our calls aren’t all phantom, but if we are getting called for what we’re doing ,there are definitely parallel examples the Pens are doing. The standard is nowhere near consistent. They literally have to give the ref no choice to get called.
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by Rob Parker on Apr 18, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
good morning, sunshine! Been wondering when you would show up.
Orpik could potentially tee up Sasha’s head and I’m not to sure that the refs would call it.
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Yeah that’s some of the most obvious stuff. He carves him up like a Thanksgiving turkey every chance he gets.
I hate listening to people's dreams. It is like flipping through a stack of photographs. If I'm not in any of them and nobody is having sex, I just don't care.
that, of course, made the fact that Sasha somehow managed to sell it to the refs and get Orpik tossed in the box in OT for the snovechkin game just that much more enjoyable.
it’s horrible of my to say, but if someone from Ottawa were to perhaps knock Orpik out of the rest of the playoffs, I wouldn’t shed a single tear. Acquaintance of mine went to school with him and says he was a huge fucking prick back then, too.
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So you’re saying that Sutton took out the wrong Penguin, then?
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
The uproar over that hit is hilarious. The result was unfortunate…but it was not a dirty hit. Take the Cooke hit but not from the blind side and you essentially have the same hit.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
The standard is nowhere near consistent. They literally have to give the ref no choice to get called.
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by Sombrero Guy on Apr 18, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
The Caps got momentum off of Carlson’s goal. Did the ref yell Halak’s name a few times to distract him as Johnny was shooting?
Serious tin foil hat wearing in Montreal. I don’t see how the officiating was favoring the Caps at all last night.
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The only way you could say the officiating has been favoring us is that it’s actually been pretty consistent for once. There has been a weak call or two in my opinion but it’s gone both ways. Most of the penalty calls have been pretty automatic stuff.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
My thoughts exactly. There have been some bad calls and/or no calls going both ways. It’s odd (for us anyway) to have even officiating.
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I’m not complaining. Even officiating is all I ask.
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I parsed that as an overreaction, as hyperbolizing.
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by red army line on Apr 18, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
OK, well I can assure you that it’s logically thought-out Tin Foil hat response. The entire recap reeks of that tone and he takes a break to specifically say that it’s a conspiracy. He then expands on it in the comments.
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Maybe it’s my strategic memory loss about reading such nice articles preceding Game 2 and then…well. We’ll see. I can sorta understand why he’d write something like that, but then again, he’s the author. Shouldn’t be coming from him.
Cидни Kросби: Александр Oвечкин, он твой папа теперь
Capitals Coming: for Capitals fans who can bear reading something less intelligent than a story at Japers' Rink
by red army line on Apr 18, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Jokes. I didn’t hear any Montreal players or coaches talking about a lack of goaltender interference calls…they’re just inventing excuses.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
EOTP is also furious the coaches aren’t talking about it. SOMEONE GOT TO THEM!
by Natty Bumppo on Apr 18, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Their coaches actually know what real goaltender interference is that’s why…you’d think it would be a sign to them that they are just making excuses. Are they really shocked our offense suddenly showed up? What did they think they were going to hold us to 2 goals or less for 4 games straight?
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Then there’s tons of Habs fans on Twitter complaining about—wait for it—Alex Ovechkin not getting called for a minor penalty for skating to the bench with a broken stick in his hand. No, really. People are complaining about that.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Apr 18, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, the actual wording is “participate in the game”, but yeah. He didn’t do that. Not to mention the fact that even if the rule said you had to drop it immediately, that would never, ever have been called in that situation.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Apr 18, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
In some convoluted fashion, having a stick in your hand could be perceived as “playing” with it. Somehow.
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by red army line on Apr 18, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
24 Cups can make people feel entitled.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 18, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
When we go all tin foil hat here, it’s not in the recap itself, it’s the comments, no? And generally, while we’re complaining, we’re also discounting it at the same time. Most of us, anyway.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Reading their recap of the game is just sad. Best part is the acknowledgment there was no complaining from their bench for the phantom Knuble goalie interference call…probably because their bench aren’t inventing calls as excuses for what happened. Have Habs fans really not been a part of playoff hockey enough lately to know what is and isn’t goalie interference? I don’t even think the grazing of Halak that went on would get called in the regular season let alone the playoffs.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
WE ARE LIONS!
I personally don’t care if Knuble did interfere. (although I don’t think he did) If it isn’t called it’s a play and part of the game and at the end of the day the Caps won. Too many times the past two years Caps fans complain, bitch and moan about things not going the Caps way when the Caps should be pushing the envelope themselves.
Complaining about the Flyers crashing your goalie does nothing. Ovechkin cannon balling into Halak a little harder than he needs to after a Canadian touches him does something.
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by zephyr on Apr 18, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh if he actually did interfere with Halak and it wasn’t called, I’d care. I don’t want to win games that way. Nothing last night was anything close to a penalty in the regular season let alone the playoffs. The complete lack of comment or complaint about any of these phantom goalie interference calls from the Habs’ bench during or after the game are pretty telling. They know what playoff hockey is…some of their fans do not.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not me....
You are correct-it wasn’t a bad call. So let them cry. Regardless….The Refs can’t catch everything. I think its logical they will probably miss a fairly even number of calls each way. Hopefully, when you remove the bias of each fan base…It all comes out in the wash. Crabs fan may whine, but there are five more games to go. The better team should win?
by Capital_PUNishment on Apr 18, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Is your new name for the fans of the Canadians now the Crabs? That’s a good one. (If it catches on here, the administrators will start admonishing us not to use it.)
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It’s far more clever than just “Peons”.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Crabs at least sound like “Habs” and has the extra advantage of starting with a “C”. Peons sounds nothing like the team or the city or anything.
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I have to come clean…I saw it somewhere and ran with it.
Yeah, i think its pretty funny as well.
by Capital_PUNishment on Apr 18, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly, with all of the no calls in that Flyers series, I wouldn’t mind so much if that garbage isn’t called. God knows it’s bitten us.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 18, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Too many times the past two years Caps fans complain, bitch and moan about things not going the Caps way when the Caps should be pushing the envelope themselves.
Win.
I hate listening to people's dreams. It is like flipping through a stack of photographs. If I'm not in any of them and nobody is having sex, I just don't care.
Was wondering when you’d be up and about…was looking forward to some scathing remarks about the conspiracy theorists
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Robert L. the same guest Robert Lefebvre on Japers’ Rink Radio yesterday. He was such a good guest, very calm and rational. Good discussion of the differences between the teams and on Ovi vs Richard and of the two coaches.
I just read the recap over there and was very surprised by the tone and accusations of biased reffing. The recap was very much over-the-top, almost hysterical. Totally different “voice.”
Just want to add that more than ever I really appreciate the detailed recaps written with calm clarity here at Japers’. I expect a Caps-centric recap, but I want to know about the game—warts and all!
by capsyoungguns on Apr 18, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
No second link, but rather second mistake by me. My bad.
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C’mon JP, you need to get into playoff mode!!!
Considering I get mildly annoyed though at linking to even a few things, all those recap links deserve a rec more than usual.
Seems like the interwebs have the win cut in two ways:
1) Caps can’t win like this
2) They found their game.
Which is it? Considering that similar things happened in 2008 and 2009 (I think late Game 4 against PHI they turned it on, and early Game 3 against NYR, and never looked back in each of those cases) I tend to favor that second viewpoint.
Cидни Kросби: Александр Oвечкин, он твой папа теперь
Capitals Coming: for Capitals fans who can bear reading something less intelligent than a story at Japers' Rink
by red army line on Apr 18, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Just like to wish a good morning to the two guys in white habs jerseys sittin down low in. Section 110. Advice, if you are going to jump up and down like spider monkeys on crack waiving a sign saying " habs in four cause you can’t score" um, wait for the game to be over first. Couple ranger fans learned that lesson last year. Also, where were you heading in such a rush after backs ot goal? You seemed willing to let everyone know how god your habs were but weren’t willing to hear out the caps fans after the win. Bad ettiquite mon freres.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Apr 18, 2010 9:50 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Ha. Those guys were somethin’. And the sign said “Habs in four cuz Ovi can’t score.”
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Looked like some caps fans were giving them some good natured back and forth between periods. Love the stunned looks on their faces after it was 4-4…perfect example of how visiting fans should be treated.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Apr 18, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
It was even better after the Canadian-killer made it 5-5. The Habs fans were giddy about going back to Montreal up two and then it was all taken away so suddenly.
I don’t necessarily agree with that. I think you treat away fans with the respect they treat you. If they come with a stupid sign like that, yeah, give them the good natured back and forth. But if they’re respectful, I say treat them the same way back.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 18, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Canada has teabaggers too!
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by bigeugene on Apr 18, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
WTF
What does that mean? A little bit offensive? no?
by Capital_PUNishment on Apr 18, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
On scalpers: Needed service or not, there are simply so many of them that they have become a nuisance and in some ways a hazard. They’re congregating to the point where F Street is a gauntlet of people hawking hats, lights, illegal tickets, and the like, and they’re in the way and can block the sidewalk to the point where it’s one person getting through at a time. In the event of an emergency, that could be real trouble. I’ve actually taken to going in by Gallery Place or the G Street entrance, simply because it’s less hassle.
Like Capitals Outsider, I don’t have a problem with a fan doing it, though I see the fans doing it more often down by the Chinatown gate. I do have a problem with these guys who do it professionally for money, because they’re hounding people, impeding traffic flow, and generally turning themselves into a real nuisance.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
They ought to have the opportunity to make a little money.
There ought to be a good way for folks who don’t want to deal with them to avoid them.
Having a designated area is tougher near Verizon, than say, at Camden. But that may be a good solution. Anyway, you should be able to get off the Metro and into a stadium door without being hassled.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Apr 18, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. It’s not about the scalping activity – it’s about the nuisance and the hazard that the crowd of them is creating.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Does anyone know what the cop meant (quoted in the Capitals Outsider story) about the scalpers standing outside their “jurisdiction”? The scalpers usually don’t bother me, but lately they are blocking the sidewalk and more aggressively “marketing” their tickets (including a guy who grabbed my arm twice to ask if I had extra tickets). Perhaps Verizon security ought to step in if the cops won’t.
Grabbing your arm? Okay, that is WAY over the line. I’ve never been grabbed, but I’ve been shoved a couple of times.
My bet is that these guys are having a problem making money, and that is why they are becoming more aggressive. The problem making money comes from (1) more people trying to get in on the action, the Caps being such a hot commodity, and (2) fewer tickets available. They’re simply harder to get.
At the end of the day, though, they’re perilously close to (some would say past) the point of getting yanked because they’re a nuisance. They may not get pinned for scalping, but they can get pinned for being a public nuisance.
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grabbing your arm is over the line…is it annoying to have so many causing a bit of a bottleneck to the F street entrance? Sure. But overall as long as they aren’t grabbing my arm I wouldn’t have an issue with them. That is a different story if they’re actually hawking you down to grab you.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s one thing I like about going to O’s games, they’ve got that designated zone where people can resell their tickets at or below face value and they line up the buyers and sellers so it’s organized and not just a mob. Plus they’ve got cops/security there to supervise things
Annoying yes, but obviously there is a market….or they wouldn’t be there.
I haven’t bought anything yet..doubt I would. But regardless of my saintly intentions..
Obviously someone is buying their goods.
by Capital_PUNishment on Apr 18, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
They provide zero service that anyone with access to the internet doesn’t have available.
They buy tickets for the sole purpose of profiting off an event they care nothing about, raising the price for people who do.
They make it easier for opposing fans to get in the building.
And on a personal note before a playoff game I was handing my friend his ticket outside VC and a scalper rushed up, got in my face and started harassing me to buy it in an incredibly aggressive manner, even after I told him no.
Get rid of them all. Like bank tellers and travel agents, they’ve been replaced by technology.
by Stormblue on Apr 18, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Doesn’t the internet make it equally easy for opposing fans to get in? These guys don’t seem to be charging the same ridiculous prices as “legitimate” outlets like StubHub. I agree that the cops should take the necessary steps to ensure that they aren’t actively harassing or physically accosting patrons trying to get into the event, but they are the only way that some fans can actually get in to see the game when the tickets are so hard to come by online.
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I like this
I don’t give a shit about opposing fans in the arena. If we can’t pack the Verizon Center with fans, if other fans like their teams enough to pay the price to get to DC and go to a game, then that’s our problem.
What I do give a shit about is having to slow down to a crawl because 20 guys want to rip chumps off who, as has been said, don’t have internet access. I’ve got season tickets. If I didn’t, I would go online and find somebody who did and pick them up before I showed up with 18,000 other people who are trying to get in the approximately 4 doors they open to let fans in.
I don’t want their service and I don’t want them in my face. People who want scalped tickets are just as likely to cross the street to a designated area to buy them as they would standing on the only sidewalk into the arena. Is somebody actually suggesting that fans who want tickets will ONLY buy them because these guys are in front of the VC? Give me a break…
Where does #19 in red, white, and blue stand now on our list of top forwards in the NHL? I’d say top-10 for sure, borderline top-5.
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Our list, I’d say he’s been top 5 most of the season. On the rest of the NHL’s top list, he had to move up a couple ranks from where ever he was
by hockeyman33 on Apr 18, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Then, Nicklas Backstrom, now among the top two or three centers in the game, won it just 31 seconds into overtime with his third goal of the game
Um, Geno? Don’t look now but…
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Geno wasn’t even number four this year.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
One could argue that Geno wasn’t even the second best center on his own team.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Apr 18, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Who would be ahead of him? Staal? I think F&B might want to debate that point with you. Honestly Malkin is clearly the #2 center on the Pens.
Right now, the only center in the NHL I would take ahead of Nick is Crosby… and it’s close, very close. The only place where Crosby is distinctly better than Nick is on faceoffs, but Nick is getting better at this, whereas Crosby is about as good as he is going to get in faceoff percentage. Crosby clocks in at just under 56%, and to go up from there is damn hard. Nick is just a hair under 50%, but that can be improved upon as he learns how to win the draws. I doubt Nick will be a 56% guy, but if he gets to 53-54 percent, then the differences will be even less…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Apr 18, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m a little skeptical to anoint Backstrom the #2 C in the NHL right now. Seems so meteoric. I’d still give the nods to Crosby, Henrik Sedin, and Pavel Datsyuk.
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by red army line on Apr 19, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t think the officiating was too bad last night. Habs fans, at least on HEOTP, are complaining and saying that the refs gave the game to the Caps. Did anyone here see lopsided reffing?
What was the penalty ratio? I feel like the Habs had more. I never saw the Semin penalty and we didn’t get an in-house replay, so I can’t comment on what that looked like. The early one on Belanger was in my end and it totally looked like a dive. I thought the officiating was fairly even. It’s not like the Caps scored any PPG like they did.
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I thought one trip each way was bad, as the guys were slipping…again (especially the call on Belanger, thought the Hab wiped out more than anything).
Both teams got called for 3 minors and a fighting major. Habs were going to get called for another minor, but Carlson’s goal cancelled it out.
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by red army line on Apr 18, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Penalty ratio is a shit way to judge whether or not the referees adjudicated fairly. There’s no rule saying both teams need to have an equal number of power plays.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 18, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
no but i did notice that the refs in our game as well as the other games last night were not calling goaltender interference even if the goalie was getting run. And from what i saw on their blog they were complaining about the refs not calling goalie interference
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
Yeah. They have that standard of not calling, and plus, it was close on Knuble. Poti’s interference I’ve seen go uncalled plenty as well.
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by red army line on Apr 18, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah but i felt like they were arguing more that we should have been down a man on both instances even though poti’s interferance i see alot
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
Nah. They got away with some of that too.
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yeah i know that but the habs fans didn’t seems to be thinking that way. don’t really blame them i suppose i would be pissed if we lost after being up 4-1 and then 5-4 with ~90 second left in regulation
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
Especially on goalmouth scrums like that. Everyone is going for the puck and not the player.
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by red army line on Apr 18, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I was looking down on that scrum and still can’t figure out how the Ref didn’t see the penalty. He was right on top of the play, and directly behind the offending player #57 Pouliot. The puck was picked up off the ice, and tossed over the shoulder out of the crease. It couldn’t have been more clear. Especially on the replay, and should have been a Caps penalty shot.
Pouliot is the only player not holding a stick, he picked up the puck and swiped it. There wasn’t even a red-sweatered arm within 2 feet of the puck and the puck was most definitely in the crease.
And upsetting as it was, I really think the refs did alright last night. They made 3 bad calls out of 6, but they could easily have riddled this game with penalties. And that alternative is a lot worse.
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That call on the hand pass, until I saw the highlight this morning, we couldn’t figure out what the heck had been called. All I saw originally was the ref’s hand coming down, so I thought a penalty had been called and wondered why we didn’t have a power play. And didn’t I hear the Versus guy say there’s should have been a call for covering the puck?
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It didn’t bug me so much because in that kind of a scrum, the referee could have just blown the whistle and ended play. I agree it was crap, but eh.
Also penalties can not be called on replays, with the exception (I think) of goaltender interference.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 18, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I think only incidental contact, but not the penalty itself.
Cab delay of game (puck over glass) can be called on a replay?
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by red army line on Apr 18, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
If he’d have just ended the play, fine. The draw would have stayed in the zone then. I could at least understand if he lost sight of the puck, but the handpass was a stupid justification for the whistle.
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Habs got away with a couple, too. That little run into Varly that precipitated the scrum and then the fight could have been called as goalie interference, I thought.
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There were some weak calls that went both ways. The phantom Capitals “hand pass” sticks out in my mind.
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Unfortunately, I think that’s a call you make. Ref didn’t see who hand passed it, so I think you have to give the benefit of the doubt to the defensive team. Same as with letting some penalties slide in the playoffs. Better not to hose the defensive team, I feel, or at least not risk it.
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by red army line on Apr 18, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not quite sure I’d agree with that logic. If you can’t see who passed it, then you just don’t make a call. Especially when there were three Canadiens on the ice surrounding the puck. Not only wasn’t it a hand pass, but the Canadiens could have been called for a penalty shot because the puck was in the crease when they put their hand on it. It all worked out but it was a bad call.
by b.orr4 on Apr 18, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Either way, I feel like you’re giving one team the benefit of the doubt. If you don’t call it, it goes to the attackers. If it’s called, the defending team. I’d tend to favor calling it.
But whatever is consistent is fine by me.
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by red army line on Apr 18, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s only a penalty shot if you freeze the puck in the crease, you can play it with your hand. But yeah, seeing as how there were three Canadiens there on all fours and all the Caps players were standing up I have no idea how a ref can be confused about which team played the puck with their hand.
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by Killer_Carlson on Apr 18, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Not how I'd read it
67.4 If a player, except a goalkeeper, while play is in progress, falls on the puck, holds the puck, picks up the puck, or gathers the puck into his body or hands from the ice in the goal crease area, the play shall be stopped immediately and a penalty shot shall be awarded to the non-offending team.
I suppose there’s room for interpretation, but “picks up the puck” and/or “gathers the puck” seems to be a requisite for sweeping it out of the crease.
I don’t think either of those are requisites for sweeping it out of the crease, but regardless of semantics it has never been called that way. It would have been a really weak call if the refs gave the Caps a penalty shot for that.
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by Killer_Carlson on Apr 19, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps not requisites, you’re right; it’s not explicitly stated. But what’s the intent of the rule, then? If it’s to keep players from acting like goalies, then sweeping it out of the crease with your hand seems to fit the bill.
The intent is to keep players from freezing a loose puck in the crease, not to keep them from clearing it.
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But sweeping it with your hand is “closing hand on puck” in some cases (when the hand is cupped over the puck). Mike Green got whistled for that (not in the crease thankfully) earlier this season.
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by red army line on Apr 19, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I couldn’t disagree more. If the ref didn’t see the play and doesn’t know exactly what happened, he shouldn’t make the call. Period.
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Particularly when logic would say that if a Cap did make the hand pass it would be towards the goal not away from it.
If the Caps are trying to get away with a hand pass they are probably better off playing the puck out to someone to get the shot, not putting it in the net. If they hand pass it into the net then it will get reviewed and overturned, but if they just make a regular hand pass and the ref doesn’t see it then it can’t be reviewed.
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by Killer_Carlson on Apr 18, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Ooooh i forgot about that. Shoulda been a penalty shot. That pissed me off, but I was just as mad that the Caps couldn’t put it in the net while they had the chance.
If this caps team has learned anything from the playoffs its that they can’t rely on the refs to justify everything and that they gotta take what they can get.
by hockeyman33 on Apr 18, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If this caps team has learned anything from the playoffs its that they can’t rely on the refs to justify everything and that they gotta take what they can get.
Exactly. And it wasn’t super uneven as well, as gotsparkly says below. It’s close enough that the better team won.
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by red army line on Apr 18, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
The overhead shot on NHLN shows Poti with the hand pass with his right hand.
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I wasn’t paying close attention but VS called it as a Habs hand pass, and I don’t see where a Cap was close enough. Maybe Poti shoved it and then the MTL player hand passed it as well?
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by red army line on Apr 18, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I did see a view where it appeared like Poti made a motion with his hand to kick it out to an open guy…whether or not he actually had the puck I couldn’t tell you.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
That was as much Poti as anyone. We’d be furious at him if he hadn’t purse slapped the crap out of Gomez right afterwards.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 18, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
If the refs aren’t calling it, it’s not illegal, and as long as it’s the same way on both ends, I have no problem with it. The refs really let the teams play, and I like that.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 18, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah. I thought it was even on both sides. Stuff got missed on both sides, definitely, and a couple of the calls were weak, but I thought the call standard was the same for both teams. In a game like that, that’s all I can fairly ask.
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Just saw replays on NHL on the fly. Knuble on backs first goal was clean. He set his butt in front of halak like every other great crease player does. Contact made after the Montreal d man pushed him. That’s a no call almost every time.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Apr 18, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
On EOTP they argue Knuble’s skate prevents Halak from moving his right pad. I don’t buy that.
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by red army line on Apr 18, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
i call bullshit on that halak looked set until the d pushed noobs into him
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
Same, though I wouldn’t have been terribly mad had they called incidental contact and disallowed the goal. Could’ve gone both ways.
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by red army line on Apr 18, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Reffing is easy looking at frame by frame screen caps.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Apr 18, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just like Brashear’s hit, amirite?
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 18, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe there’s something to that.
In which case Halak better learn soon how to play playoff hockey. Because that exact situation happens in almost every playoff game without being called a penalty. He’d better get used to not having a pristine crease.
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by Gould Old Days on Apr 18, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
If Habs’ fans are bitching about that MINIMAL contact…and I do mean minimal…they need to watch some tapes from our series against the Flyers 2 year ago. Clearly they didn’t listen to any of the media praising our signing of Knuble as a guy who will bring that exact crease presence we had been lacking previously.
They just need something to bitch about because they blew a 3 goal lead and the beasts got out of their cages.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
And the thing is, Knuble threaded that needle perfectly. It’s what he does. He just had the perfect judgment for body position to avoid the penalty call.
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by Gould Old Days on Apr 18, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve read more complaints about the play were Poti was in behind Halak claiming he then “checked” Halak to the ice, etc. Also bitching about the play were a Habs player (can’t remember which) made contact into Varly knocking the net off thus eliminating a subsequent put in.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t bitch about that if I were them – that could easily have been called goalie interference.
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But it’s not, just like none of the little bumps or screens Knubs set are. Welcome to playoff hockey.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Which is exactly why he’s so effective. He exhibits that perfect judgment in almost crease play he makes. It’s what makes him such a damn good garbage man.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Apr 18, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is why all the screaming about him in particular are funny…I mean for a guy who is always in the high traffic areas how many goalie interference calls has he actually had against him?
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike Knuble FTW.
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by EmilyB on Apr 18, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’ve come around on my position on that. Calling interference would have been bullshit. Knuble had perfect positioning, and the only contact was initiated from Gill, and Halak couldn’t move forward, but Knuble wasn’t in the crease. It was legit.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 18, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
The simple fact that there was barely any contact at all in general last night. Minor bumps or grazes are not penalties in the regular season…let alone the playoffs.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I haven’t been thrilled with the ref’ing, personally. The lack of calls, on both sides, and the willingness of the officials to let a looks of clutching and grabbing go plays into the favor of a defensive team like the Habs. We see this every season. I can’t figure out for the life of me why the NHL, which claims it wants to open up the game, does this. (and, yeah, 6-5 isn’t exactly a defensive tussle, but…..) I dunno, it just irritates me immensely. As crappy as the officiating frequently is during the regular season, I’d much ratehr see that than what I’ve seen the past two games.
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Yeah, the officiating benefits a team like the Habs, but I can’t stand how every little clutch/grab is a penalty. I love watching hockey like that. Obviously there’s a point where a hold is a hold and a hook is a hook, but ugh, I can’t stand ticky tack garbage.
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by hockeyman33 on Apr 18, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
This was essentially me, game 1 OT.
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Yea they were showing him on Versus….and even in the Sports Center recap I saw last night. Pretty much summed up my exact feelings at that moment perfectly. I think it was right around that point in time when I turned to iced and said “I just want to go home….”
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by SeattleCapsFan on Apr 18, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Email from my dad this morning:
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I like the Washington Capitals.
He’s never experienced the Cardiac Caps before eh?
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by SeattleCapsFan on Apr 18, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike Green
Getting killed by all the national media today. But seriously, what is up him? Just looks lost…
Quick, somebody call Dr. Heimlich!
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Apr 18, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Mono?
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by bigeugene on Apr 18, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
broke up with his girlfriend of this week?
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
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Too many or not enoughcheeseburgersMuscle Milks?
by hockeyman33 on Apr 18, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
wrong/new stick?
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Too many fumes from the ice resurfacer being driven by the caveman?
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Apr 18, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
He did look lethargic at times. Especially that Plekanec goal—stopped moving and just stood around, waiting for Cammalleri to shoot, when in fact MC passed.
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by red army line on Apr 18, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s like he forgot how to play hockey. I didn’t see him factoring into the offense, nor into the defense, really, except his PKing was alright (well, all the Caps’ PKing was alright). He led the rush and didn’t do all that well a few times. He had a couple of good pinches to keep the puck in the offensive zone but aside from that, he needs to channel 2008 playoffs Mike Green ASAP.
If it’s any consolation:
Game 1, Backstrom finds his game
Game 2, Ovechkin finds his game.
Game 3…
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by red army line on Apr 18, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Game 3: Profit!
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It’s amazing how well that actually fits.
by DrinkingPartner on Apr 18, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
We hope.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Apr 18, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Disappointing as a Caps fan, but hearing Melrose and others and being shown the video of the 2nd and 5th Habs goals again leaves me with questions as well.
On that 5th goal he looked so, so lost.
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by b.orr4 on Apr 18, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think he’s caught between trying to think defense first and still contribute offensively. Brain cramps. Needs to breath through his eyelids and make sure the rose goes in the front, meat.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Apr 18, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Problem is he’s not contributing on either end currently. I’ve seen him play a ton of 2 on 1’s this year and I have no clue what he was doing on the 5th goal last night at all. After the initial pass got through he seemed like he just gave up on the play. We need him to wake up big time and figure out how he’s going to play his game in the playoffs.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed but the entire pp has been bad. As bb pointed out, green needs to take the body sometimes and not look at the puck. On the fifth goal he was staring at the puck probably expecting varly to cover it and let plekanec get to the post.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Apr 18, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Green and Sasha are looking a little lost. But there are a lot of people just watching the Habs speedy forwards gain the zone and skate around – that is the painful thing.
by S h a g g y on Apr 18, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
When the Habs are in the zone mostly they’re kept to the outside. The Caps could do a better job keeping the D from shooting from the point, but nevertheless, the basic structure is alright. Just the quick passing to open up lanes in the middle, and the resulting lack of adjustment by the Caps, is hurting.
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by red army line on Apr 18, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Amen to both comments.
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by Rather Bengt on Apr 18, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn’t see yesterday but he looked bad in the highlights (all ending up in our own net…). I thought he was good defensively in game 1 except for the Gomez/Gionta goal. Offensively, he’s still lost.
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by b.orr4 on Apr 18, 2010 10:35 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
So, so you think Theo starts Game 3? I say Varly does. I think the kid has icewater in his veins.
by S h a g g y on Apr 18, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Theo gets a shot, no short leash right? To me last night wasn’t a short leash situation, it was a guy who didn’t have him game at all. Let him try to bounce back.
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eh i’m figuring varly just because the crowd will try to get in theo’s head but i would like to see theo get back in there to try and redem himself
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
We would all like this – but I think there is something to the MTL fans getting on Theo. Varly has no baggage, or said “leash”.
by S h a g g y on Apr 18, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah which is why most people are looking forward to seeing if theo gets back in for game 5
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
I’d love to say Theo deserves another chance, but when you see stats like the fact he’s been pulled in 4 of his last 7 playoff starts it leaves me a little cold. The fact that Varly has every playoff win for us in the past 2 years is telling as well. We could say he’s earned the right to have the chance to go back in but do you really want him dealing with the fans up there? Then imagine if Varly has 2 solid games how do you really go back to Theo?
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
well i really don’t know what goes through BBs mind but i never wanted theo in goal up in montreal every since i saw who we were playing in round 1. I do feel like he played well in game 1 but our offense didn’t support him. if varly has 2 solid game up north it will be more difficult to fall back to theo but i felt like his “leash” was still relatively short due in part to the team as a whole. I just feel bad that theo should of had a better team in front of him in those first 8 minutes last night
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
I don’t know how we can say a better team in front of him though…we were outshooting them something like 8-2 and dominating play. He literally let a goal in on the only 2 rushes against. If he stops either one of them he doesn’t get pulled…but given the situation looking at being down 0-2 and allowing goals on his first 2 shots he had to get yanked.
I still don’t get the talk that some people would say we have been outplayed in the series…we’re outshooting them, more hits, winning draws, etc. Their special teams has been +1 in each game so far, but other than that they just have capitalized on our mistakes more than we had on theirs (up until the 3rd period last night)
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
that 1st goal i thought he should have had (even if it was a knuckler) but that second one i blame on him and the defense being absent. Now i will tell you it may be my own love of pretty much all goalies that is causing my to lay blame on him and the team but everyone has a off game maybe that was his off game
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
I think the 2nd one was just a pretty good shot as well…but if he stops the first one no one even talks about the 2nd one. It’s just hard for me to defend him when we’re dominating play for 8 minutes and the only 2 rushes we allow he gives one up on each one. Admittedly I was one saying I didn’t trust Theo even during his good streak, because he can fall off the wagon just that fast…but I was a fan of his little comeback story as much as anyone.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Fixed it
I’d love to say Theo deserves another chance, but when you see stats like the fact he’sbeen pulled in 4 of his last 7 playoff startsgiven up goals on three straight shots it leaves me a little cold.
by b.orr4 on Apr 18, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think it’s Varly, too. Despite all the good things Bruce has been saying about Jose, I’ve always felt that he was looking for an excuse to go to Varly.
Makes it favor Varly even more considering Varly didn’t feel the MTL heat in his NHL debut.
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by red army line on Apr 18, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve never read it as an ‘excuse’ to go back to Varly, but I do think that BB has more confidence in Varly than Jose, despite how badly Jose outplayed Varly in the 2nd half of the regular season. What happened to the “no short leash” for Theo though?
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Like I mentioned above, Theo’s given up three goals on his last three shots and two of them were questionable. When Montreal scored the second goal last night, Bruce has to consider a) is Montreal in Theo’s head and b ) if Theo gives up a third goal we’re finished. Bruce made the right move.
Oh I’m not saying I didn’t agree with pulling him last night. I’m just wondering what happened to that quote if he doesn’t start in Montreal. BB was right to pull him last night, but he also stated in his post-game interview that he didn’t think the goals were Jose’s fault. I do have a feeling that he has more confidence in Varly, but I still think he goes back to Theo on Monday. Just a gut feeling.
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If they were playing any other team in any other arena, Boudreau would go back to Theo for the next game. But given that it’s Montreal in Montreal and all the baggage Theo has there, I would guess that Varly would get the start. Theo will be back for Game 5, if not sooner.
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If that game is what caused it I’m all for it. In a situation like that you don’t want to risk going down 3-0…especially against a team who was so effective in holding your powerhouse offense to 2 goals the previous game. Both of those goals were ones Theo should have had…he was obviously not on his game and you want to rectify that situation immediately.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Apr 18, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
CW around here has been that to break the trap, the Caps have to play dump and chase. They need to get the puck in deep, run after it, gain possession, and then start their offense.
I’m not so sure.
The third Habs goal was preceded by a good solid two or three minutes where the Caps dumped the puck in, the Canadians scooped it out and sent it back to the Caps in the Caps’ zone. The Caps exhausted themselves running from their own blue line to behind the Habs’ goal and back again, over and over again. And then a tired Caps line gave up a bad goal.
Made me want to scream “you’re doing it wrong!”
And the thing that’s always made me uncomfortable about the dump and chase theory is that it calls on the Caps to change their game. I want the Caps to say “Change OUR game? Fuck you, we’re better than you. You change YOUR game.”
I still think it’s on the Caps’ skilled players to run a good breakout together through the neutral zone. I know with the Habs stacking their own blue line it’s hard. It’s frustrating. It fails more often than not. It makes for ugly, disjointed hockey. But for the Caps’ best players, I think it may be a better option than dump and chase.
If it ain’t working, run the 3rd and 4th lines out there a little more. Have them dump and chase and work the Habs a bit. But for the skilled players, I think they should just keep plugging at making a good breakout. And if almost the entire game happens between the blue lines, so be it. Because the thing about the trap is that it’s a counter-punching strategy. And as long as Montreal’s committing to defense first, they can’t generate much offense.
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by Gould Old Days on Apr 18, 2010 10:46 AM EDT reply actions
Agreed. Analogous in a manner to the first time the Bears unveiled the “46”. You knew exactly what was coming, and still had no chance.
There’s not a scheme in the world, in any sport, that doesn’t have a 2nd option built into it when the primary one fails. But that’s why Gabby and Co. get paid the big bucks – to reason it out and draw it up.
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The 1st and 2nd lines def dumped and chased in the 3rd more than they have ever done. You don’t need to it every time just like you don’t need to carry the puck across the line and make blueline to blueline passes every time. Adding it in though, makes things less predictable for the other team. Ovi, Backstrom, and Knuble got dirty in the corners and it paid off big time.
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I think that last part is what we’re looking for. Keeping MTL’s D honest, respecting the dump and chase, should open up a little more room for the skill game.
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by red army line on Apr 18, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Right, I forgot to add this. When the short passing and support isn’t working they need to be willing to dump it and go chase it down. Maybe they don’t have to think “get the red line and dump it” every time but they should at least be able to recognize when they are stacked up and respond by getting the puck deep.
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We haven’t really had a goal scored directly as a result from a turnover generated from our forecheck yet but their D is being affected by it. Fumbling the puck a lot in the corners and behind their net we did a much better job of making it tough on them to dig it out at times last night. I swear I even saw Flash throw a hit once.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate dump and chase hockey. so eff’ing BORING. and you’re right, the Caps need to find a way to say “Screw this, WE’RE playing the style that makes us the best damn team in hockey! Take your damn trap and shove it!”
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the Caps need to find a way to say "Screw this, WE’RE playing the style that makes us the best damn team in hockey! Take your damn trap and shove it!"
But I feel like that’s what put them on their heels for game 1 and most of game 2.
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by CapitalCentre on Apr 18, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea, the problem was our inability or unwillingness to adjust.
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There’s a balance to be had between dumping and chasing to get past the trap and realizing they’re overplaying Ovie on one side and for Lars and Knubs to take advantage of all the space that opens up for them. See the OT game winner…eventually they’re going to have to respect Backstrom carrying the puck and more space will open up all around.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I still think it’s on the Caps’ skilled players to run a good breakout together through the neutral zone. I know with the Habs stacking their own blue line it’s hard. It’s frustrating. It fails more often than not. It makes for ugly, disjointed hockey. But for the Caps’ best players, I think it may be a better option than dump and chase.
I agree with a lot of this. Dump and chase is the simplest way to beat the trap, but it’s not the exclusive way. Especially not against a team like MON that is not even particularly great at playing the trap (70+ shots in 2 games… would a Lemaire team ever do that?). But the way to generate that good breakout through the neutral zone is to support your teammates and make short, crisp passes. DET is better at that than anyone else in the league. The Caps top line was going for 50-75 foot passes through the neutral zone in game 1. That will not work. You can pass and skate through the neutral zone but it requires much better support and skating than the Caps top line showed in game 1.
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Short version, it’s a lot more work to break a trap properly. The first 5 periods of the series, the Caps were pretty obviously not ready to pay that price.
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What’s with Nick’s real first name being Lars and Anton’s real first name is Carl?
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Swedes have some wierd ass naming system. Their middle names are their first for some odd reason, Johnny Oduya’s first name is actually David
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Apr 18, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes he is.
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I don’t understand what the point of the sarcasm was, then.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Apr 18, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
He doesn’t really have a Swedish name, and he doesn’t really look Swedish.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 18, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
And Douglas Murray’s real first name? Murray.
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by Rather Bengt on Apr 18, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think it’s the Swedish “naming system”. There are loads of other Swedes who go by their first name. I think it’s just like how some people from English speaking countries prefer to go by their middle name.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Apr 18, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s called being ticked off at what your parents named you, right? Or if someone is a junior, or the third, it’s a way to keep all the boys straight.
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or worse, your parents gave you a first name they hated but felt obligated to use, and so they and everyone else uses your middle name. Except your grandma, leaving your future wife completely bewildered. “Why did Grandma call you that? Is she senile?” “No, that’s my first name.” “Um, what?”
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As a Scandinavian I can tell you that from my experience there’s really nothing remarkable or different about the Swedish naming system. It’s pretty much the same as in any other Western country with a first name and then a family name. Occasionally a middle name. I know a bunch of Swedes (sadly…) some of whom have middle names, so at least among the regular folk, I have found there to be no such tendency, though I suppose I could always throw the question their way.
I have no idea why some players such as Oduya and Bäckström choose to employ their middle names as their first name. If anything, I suspect it might have something to do with the same reasons an actor or a writer might pick up a stage name or an alias.
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Also does anyone have the link to the new opening video? Can’t find it on the caps’ site.
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"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
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Oh I hadn’t seen that….how appropriate.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Apr 18, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I really like the playoff opening video. It reflects the mood of the team and the fanbase going into this, I think.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Mike Knuble looks like a badass ganagsta in it.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Is anyone else thinking “okay, now we’re tied 1-1, time to think about Game 3”?
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I’m thinking “I really hope these jerks have learned their lesson, probably not, but I can still hope, right?”
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After all the obligatory gushing over the staggering amount of heroics last night…that’s all I was saying. Essentially we did whatever we had to in order to tie up the series and now Game 3 looms very large. We could take the series over or be right back behind the 8 ball real fast.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
i’m thinking they better pull a hershey move. after the 1st 2 games being close hopefully there will be a blow out in the capitals favor
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
This is what I’m expecting…blowing a 3 goal lead with the chance to go back home up 2-0 has to be disheartening. If we can jump on them early (See: GET THE LEAD) I think we can demoralize them even more.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
On top of that. Getting the lead would open up the ice. Caps go up 1-0 or 2-0 MTL has to open up the ice a little bit in order to get back in it. Which is why they are so bad 5-on-5, if you’re trapping and fall behind, your system goes to shit. What follows is, of course, Caps dominance. ;)
I think getting the lead, and the Caps lack of being able to do so, is really the key in the series.
All of which is why Theo had to be pulled when we’re outshooting them A LOT – 2 but yet fall behind 2-0.
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If it’s already been posted, my apologies, but the Bears put a stranglehold on their series with a 7-2 win over Bridgeport. They’re now up 3-0. That’s how you take control of a series.
depends on who he learned from. i’m left handed but since my brother taught me all the sports and is a righty I do all sports related things as if i was right handed
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
Maybe that’s why he stinks.
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He also signs autographs left handed. A lot of how Americans view hockey is skewed by the fact we had baseball first. Right handed hitters tend to hold the bat in the right handed style. As a result, I think hockey tends to follow the same mindset (Off hand holds the knob). The other place I think it’s completely obvious is goaltending – most goalies wear gloves in their left hand, so the strong hand can hold the stick. I wish like hell there was some literature on this.
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Right, this is why a disproportionate number of hockey players are a left shot. Most people taught to play hockey at an early age are told to have their dominant hand as the lower hand.
Backstrom was shooting the basketball with his right hand and is a left handed shot. Ovie was shooting the ball with his left hand and is a right handed shot.
So I hear from various other neutral boards a lot of Habs fans complaining about the officiating. Everything from crying foul on multiple goalie interferences to “ovechkin shoveling” his goal and making up penalties. Fascinating stuff really from such a hockey centered area.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Right, the refs were so intent on letting the Caps win, we didn’t have a PP until the final minute of the 2nd period and the penalties were even at 4-4. Those bastards! It’s a conspiracy!
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The insinuation that the “review” after their 4th goal was to tell the refs they need to start giving us the game is hilarious…especially when everyone around me in the stands knew they were reviewing the previous play from a minute earlier when it looked like the puck may had been on the goal line.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
You don’t know that! There is no transcript of what really happened and there never will be! The tapes have been destroyed! [dons tinfoil hat]
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Save for the explanation the official gave. But I mean whatever they need to get them through until Monday ;)
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
But they must be right because Montreal is the epicenter of hockey and they just know so much more than us Southerners about all things puck-related. Afterall, it is “their game”.
Until Johnny C. takes it from them. Kid owns Canada.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
ovi but only because he is on the ice more.
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
You say that now…but if Carlson keeps playing like he is he’s going to keep drawing more and more minutes. God damn I love that kid.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
didn’t poti say after the game that give him some time and he’ll be the best d-man in the league or some nonsense like that? I got the poti quote secondhand, so you know how that goes. haha
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I hadn’t heard that…high praise too. The kid is the complete package that’s for sure. I love how he looks to jump into the play on offense too. Finds the right times to do it
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I was told last night that I should do it. Even if he changes his number I can be like, “I’ve been a fan since he was rookie bitches!” lol
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I’m seriously tempted. I might grab one at Kettler with the stiching. I might use my tax refund. haha
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Do they have them there, ready to go w/ the stitching? If so, I’m getting one this week.
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I actually had to pay taxes >:( The person at my old job didn’t take out any federal taxes for some stupid reason. It’s basically wiped me out.
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Hahaha so tempted to get a road Carlson jersey right now and buy tix for Game 3. Would be worth it to make the trip wearing the jersey of the guy who owns Canada
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
That would be amazing!
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Hahaha it is so tempting but unlikely. One day though
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I would be tempted to say change of pact, but our pact is cooler.
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Our pact will happen. Word has spread about our pact, too. haha
Oh I made one with my dad last night. If we win it all, I’m buying him a Fehr jersey. He’s been calling him “my boy” all season. Too bad Fehr doesn’t have a player tee at the team store. That would be cheaper. haha
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Fehr also makes the most money per merchandise item for the team. Less is more ;)
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought they just got Fehr in. I know they have Carlson now.
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If they’re smart they better have ordered a ton of Carlson ones. Mad people leaving the game last night swearing on their life they were buying his jersey today haha.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, I swore I was getting one too, but thought it might just be the win combined with the beer. But I still feel the same today. I want one.
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I want one too. too bad I’m poor.
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My vow to attend every home playoff game is getting expensive…another jersey on top of that would be crucial. We need to close this series out in 5 so I can make an AC trip next weekend to win some playoff money in the poker rooms.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m at the mercy of my father buying my tickets at this point.
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I killed it the last couple trips so I’ve been siphoning off that little “fund”. Not having 4 home games every series would definitely help.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I want a backstrom one too, his seems the safer bet at the moment because of the possible number change by Johnny Drama
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve got my Backstrom. I think I was convinced to get the Johnny jersey. It’s happening. Mark my words. I’m tired of wearing my Green jersey to games.
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His sig is so ugly!
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The guy wearing the real thing is tired of wearing it to games of late…
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I didn’t notice Fehr in the racks the other day. My mom told me she’d buy me a Corvo shirt because she knows I dislike him. I wanted a Carlson but didn’t feel like shelling out $22 for a t-shirt.
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Didn’t think Corvo played too bad last night
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Shoulda taken the corvo and switched it for carlson!
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Kellobellow’s internet just died and she texted me to inform me that they do, indeed, have Fehr shirts and I’m the idiot who missed her pointing this out to me on Friday. haha
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Yea, I though so! Good job!
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This. If I knew for sure he wasn’t changing his number I would already have placed the order.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
It works for Goat, love the pic I got with him after Game 7 Rags last year…but Johnny needs a number that imparts power and respect.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I wrote Ted an email offering my first post-graduation paycheck to the Keep Backstrom Fund and he yelled at me :(
Different minds....old people.
Like jokingly yelled or was nasty about it? I’m starting to not like Ted’s personality. He comes off a little high and mighty sometimes.
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by Big Boutros on Apr 18, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
He can be like that.
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we are so “uninformed” because we haven’t heard anything yet! sorry but that was a little too snippy for my liking
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
I think he gets so much hate mail, he just assumes everyone’s criticizing him.
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That’s what I was thinking. I’m sure he was sifting through thousands of YOU SUCK THIS TEAM ISN’T BUILT FOR THE PLAYOFFS emails when it was 4-1.
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by Big Boutros on Apr 18, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
You just forgot to put the winky face at the end of the email for him. ;)
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I said s’agapo file mou….
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by Big Boutros on Apr 18, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess I could have done a better job of making it sound like a joke and not a preemptive rebuke or something.
Different minds....old people.
by Big Boutros on Apr 18, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s the internet, and snark doesn’t come across well in e-mail. If you had prefaced it by saying it was a joke, might have been better. But I’ll bet his inbox was a disaster, too.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Like jokingly yelled or was nasty about it? I’m starting to not like Ted’s personality. He comes off a little high and mighty sometimes.
I’ve e-mailed the guy a number of times and never got anything but a courteous reply in return. Sometimes they’re short, but it shows he’s read the e-mail. I give the guy full marks as an owner. He’s always there (unlike some owners who never even show up to the games), he spends to the cap and and over (Nylander), he’s an ardent cheerleader for the team and the players seem to love him. What more do you want from an owner?
by b.orr4 on Apr 18, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He’s been rude with me before, but whatever I was being whiny.
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Not to be nasty to fans trying to be nice to him? After that practice where he was rude and snippy with fans paying him compliments, the way he treated D’ohboy’s post about leaners and not posting his reply, and other nasty encounters with fans, he’s leaving a sour taste in my mouth. I always held him in the highest regard, but lately my opinion has changed a bit.
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Only talked to him once in person and that was very in passing at the home opener 2 years ago…but from all reports I’ve heard from other people who’ve emailed him and what not he’s a nice stand up owner. I’d chalk it up to a lot of pressure/crap lately. Don’t forget he’s been dealing with the estate of Abe over the whole VC/Wizards deal. I’m sure he hasn’t had all calm, relaxing days of late.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Put yourself in his shoes. Think about the countless jerks he has to deal with (not saying you’re one) on a daily basis. The guys who send him threatening e-mails when the Caps lose or call him cheap or an idiot. I’m amazed he even talks to fans as much as he does. I know if I owned the team, I sure wouldn’t.
Especially this week
Different minds....old people.
by Big Boutros on Apr 18, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
But that doesn’t give him a right to treat people who are being nice the way he does. I don’t care how much stress you are under. He puts himself out there. I would never do that. I love Ted, don’t get me wrong. I just feel like lately he’s been a jerk to people who aren’t being jerks to him.
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Lately I think he’s had a lot more people being jerks towards him, that maybe he’s been oversensitive to stuff around him just expecting that. Maybe Ted needs a bit of positive energy around him to break him out of his funk
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
so then why be nasty to the men in uniform standing outside Kettler heaping praise at him?
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You got me there, not that I know Ted’s mindset by any stretch just offering up possibilities for stress on him of late. I’m sure all of us have bad moments quite a bit…for a guy in the eye of the public as much as he is given his position and the fact he puts himself out there that much more than most in such a position there are bound to be some bad days in there.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
For sure. I met him once before a game back in 2007 and I loved him. He was awesome and great. Shaking hands with everyone. Most didn’t even know who he was. So I have always loved Ted. Lately, be it stress or whatever, he’s come across as not so gracious. I want old Ted back.
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Let’s all send him I LOVE YOU TED emails
Different minds....old people.
by Big Boutros on Apr 18, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
More games like last night will probably help :) maybe not his blood pressure but his overall mood I’m sure hahaha
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
76?
"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."
by CapitalCentre on Apr 18, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh, reply fail.
"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."
by CapitalCentre on Apr 18, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’ll never complain about Ted’s personality. I’ve sent him way too many emails, and he always responds kindly. I even interviewed him in high school for the student newspaper via email just because I asked. I just posted this as a follow-up to the email because I was more surprised than anything else. But I’m with you, I love Ted.
Different minds....old people.
by Big Boutros on Apr 18, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
My wife was worked part time at the bookstore where he buys his newspapers/magazines each Sunday and said he was always very nice to everyone. Plus, at Christmas he gave tickets to everyone who worked there.
by Eggseronius on Apr 18, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I can top that. He got my kid a job with the Caps just because I asked for his help in an e-mail and he doesn’t know me from Adam. Think Dan Snyder would do that? This guy’s one of the best owners in sports. We’re lucky to have him.
Yeah, I just sent him an apology for the perceived slight and snide tone. Hopefully he accepts
Different minds....old people.
by Big Boutros on Apr 18, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I would have said I didn’t mean for it to come off snidely, I was actually serious that I would send money to the organization to keep Nick. Still scary he was the 3rd center taken in that draft.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha, yeah, I was serious about that, but…I’ve just made a mess of things as usual
Different minds....old people.
by Big Boutros on Apr 18, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps Ted was a little hurt that anyone would even consider the idea that we won’t sign Nicky to a long term contract.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That’s crotchety old man talk right there. He was kinda rude when we saw him after practice last week. People were telling him how awesome he was and he was just like “whatever why are you still here? all the players left” and got in his town car and left. Meanwhile, tons of players left.
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Yea, John Carlson left!!!
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Ted doesn’t consider them players I guess!
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He does seem a little thin-skinned. But then, I dno’t know that I would be able to put up with so much unfiltered email from anyone and everyone.
"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."
by CapitalCentre on Apr 18, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
HEOP fanpost - Potty can suck it
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His avatar is a Florida Gator….?
Different minds....old people.
by Big Boutros on Apr 18, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
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by Natty Bumppo on Apr 18, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
the funny part is there isn’t that disclaimer at the bottom of the fanpost
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Apr 18, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I did agree with his point about the linesman kicking guys out of the faceoff dot though. I’ve seen that more this year than any other…do those guys need more camera time or something?
Was there really ever even ANY major contact made with Halak last night? The guy isn’t made of glass…good lord.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I refuse to acknowledge any part of it as valid when you call him Potty.
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Honestly…given his play over parts of this season maybe that’s part of the reason I was able to read it hahaha
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
there was so much cheating going on during every face off, from all five guys, it was ridiculous. The refs did a terrible job last night, imo, of making sure the visiting player set and remained set before the home player did. And did a terrible job dropping the puck, too.
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Hmmmm… Florida Gator, Habs fan?
Know anyone else who’s in Florida who grew up a Habs fan and has trouble with linesmen being intimidated?
Nah…gotta be a coincidence…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Apr 18, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
well, he certainly has a lot of extra time on his hands at this point in the season!
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That’s the guy who put a Fanpost up over here and JP took it down b/c it was chock full of Crysby, Sh*tsburgh type crap. Classy guy.
I like the Washington Capitals.
When did that happen?
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At the beginning of the playoffs…can’t remember if it was before or after game 1. It was about how we could all agree on hating Pittsburgh…called Crosby a nutgrabber…etc., ad nauseaum.
It was only up for like an hour.
I like the Washington Capitals.
Yeah, it went up after Pittsburgh’s game one loss. The title was “Something we can all agree on” or something like that.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Apr 18, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
He ignores that as much of a disadvantage as it was for MON to lose Gomez on that PP, it was an equal advantage for us to lose Poti. He’s a neophyte Poti hater.
I hate listening to people's dreams. It is like flipping through a stack of photographs. If I'm not in any of them and nobody is having sex, I just don't care.
He also says Poti basically tackled Halak in that free-for-all ended by the hand pass around the Habs net. Which is near impossible to say. Poti should have scored, though.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
Yeah because Halak wasn’t initiating contact with Poti either…puck in the air around the crease like that there is going to be a scrum for it. What is he not allowed to make a play on the puck? Really grasping at air for excuses…I wish their actual team was doing it too, would make me feel like they would be even more demoralized. Fortunately for them going forward, their team just realizes we finally started playing playoff hockey.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Then the tough guy gets fairly thumped by Gomez
haha…did Gomez even land a punch after the first gloved sucker punch?
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Apr 18, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
What does everyone think of the proposed change in the shootout rules? (Found in this morning’s PD post Link)
Personally I like it. Though I absolutely detest the idea of the superstar clause of allowing the same player to shoot multiple times after the initial three. Hockey’s a team game. The shootout already ruins that aspect, and the superstar clause just pisses on the grave of team competition. Just because it’s been bollocksed up already doesn’t mean you need to go all in.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Apr 18, 2010 11:53 AM EDT reply actions
I should actually amend that to say I don’t really care. But I think it will help the shooters, because similar to the Knuble shootout goal, they’ll be running on instinct.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Apr 18, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
the superstar clause would ruin my favorite aspect of the shootout. LOVE the suspense when the matt bradleys and boyd gordons are the only ones left to take shots.*
*comment does not apply to shootouts against the boston bruins during the last game of the regular season.
by Natty Bumppo on Apr 18, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
It can still apply, I totally called those 2 as shooters up in the stands. I thought it was fun even if we got smoked in that one.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Superstar clause would be the WORST. I fucking hate that. Kills any semblance of actually being a team game at that point. The people that though up that rule are fucking idiots. Anyone that likes, proposes, or in any way approves of the superstar clause should be banned from any involvement in the sport.
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by Rob Parker on Apr 18, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
They had some poll up one of the other nights about playoff OT format and whether fans preferred it or the current regular season OT/shootout format and I couldn’t believe that 14% actually said they preferred the regular season version. If playoff games were decided that way I don’t know what I would do. Ridiculous.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
TSN’s “The Quiz” had 2/3 panelists say they should do 4-on-4 playoff OT instead of 5-on-5, citing how no one cared about how the Olympics had OT that way.
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by red army line on Apr 18, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
What a great argument. Nobody cared. At all. Especially not Team Canada. Wait… does anyone else matter?
I hate listening to people's dreams. It is like flipping through a stack of photographs. If I'm not in any of them and nobody is having sex, I just don't care.
Yeah, and there is the fact that the 4-on-4 precedes a SO. No SO in the playoffs.
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by red army line on Apr 18, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
It would be unfair because some teams would have a superstar who’s amazing at the shootout (See: Toews, Datsyuk) while others would have horrible shooters (Stastny, Gaborik). Though teams can abuse that if they have a shootout specialist (i.e. Jussi Jokinen) on their team
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Apr 18, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s just stupid. I hate the idea or relying on one guy. It become Toews v. Mueller for 5 rounds waiting for a goalie to make a save. Lame.
I hate listening to people's dreams. It is like flipping through a stack of photographs. If I'm not in any of them and nobody is having sex, I just don't care.
Never really factored that in too, but that’s a valid point too
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Apr 18, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
i think that’s exactly right. the role of shootout specialist would become even more important (and they’d receive bigger salaries), which doesn’t sit well with me.
by Natty Bumppo on Apr 18, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree. I like the idea of not naming them in advance. The idea of repetitive shots, though, is a major fail. It might end the damn thing sooner, but at that point, it’s just an all-star game.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
It’s better than what they have but they should still go to 10 minutes of OT and at least 5 shooters per team.
I hate listening to people's dreams. It is like flipping through a stack of photographs. If I'm not in any of them and nobody is having sex, I just don't care.
I’d be happy with 10 minutes of 4 on 4 and back to the old point system. If it ends in a tie each team gets a point, one team wins they get 2 the loser gets nada
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Steinberg has Kolbe’s call of Nicky’s OT winner. He also has this nugget:
the Caps said before last year, it had been 13 years since the NHL saw two hat tricks in a single playoff game. It’s now happened twice at Verizon Center in less than year.
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It’s actually only happened 6 times in NHL history and the Caps have been in 3 of the games.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Apr 18, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
weird, and neat. I guess I should consider myself extremely luck to have seen two of those games in person.
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Only because we won them.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
well, yes, there is that!
of course, now when I say, “oh, yeah, I was at the dueling hat truck game” I’m gonna have to specify which one. But the Ovechkin-Crosby will will always hold a special place in my heart, if only because the post-game gave us such rich comedy material to work with.
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Exactly. Besides, I didn’t even realize Kostitsyn had a hat trick until the end of the game. No one threw any hats. :-)
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Kostitsyn was completely invisible most of the game. Just got in the right spot three times, maybe four. Not like Ovie, who’ll let everyone know if he’s tricking a team with physical play and sheer out dominance.
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by red army line on Apr 19, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Only 31 hours to Game 3!
Different minds....old people.
by Big Boutros on Apr 18, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, there are 5 hockey games today you could watch to pass the time.
I like the Washington Capitals.
None of which start for another 2 hours and 48 minutes.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow I hadn’t even read the meat of the whining over last night…simple brushes and grazes are apparently goalie interference in the playoffs to a Habs fan. By comparison…Briere got away with actually murdering Huet on the ice 2 years ago with how some Hab fans are making a few of the goals last night out to be.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 12:18 PM EDT reply actions
I didn’t even bother with the comments. If the main post was so ignorant I’m not even going to waste my time with the readers.
I hate listening to people's dreams. It is like flipping through a stack of photographs. If I'm not in any of them and nobody is having sex, I just don't care.
A good policy…it just seemed so far out of the realm of even homer griping I didn’t know what to say about it
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
And the mind games continue. Per Tarik:
Ovechkin said he noticed Halak’s hand shaking while drinking water after Fehr’s goal. Ovechkin said it was clear the Habs G was nervous.
about 1 hour ago via UberTwitter
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Hahaha I love it. Of course that whole “hot goalie” theory was pretty much shot to hell after last night. Now if you ask Montreal fans it’s cause we were cheating…if you listen to the guys on NHL on the Fly we did a great job (especially Knuble surprise surprise) of creating traffic in front of Halak.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw that too when they showed Halak on the broadcast. Definitely some nerves going, but he seemed to settle down alright at least for the rest of the period.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Apr 18, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Last night was the first time I’ve seen Unleash The Fury when the Caps were down by 2+ goals. Crowd was not very into it, or any of the other video montages that attempted to revive the building.
Caps are now 3-0 in playoff games I’ve attended post-lockout(Game 5 vs Rangers, Game 1 vs Pens).
You had me at no problem.
Unleash the Fury wasn’t until just under 5 minutes left in the game it was 5-4 then was it not?
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you sure they did Unleash the Fury when were down 2+ goals? I could have sworn it was when we were either down 1 or tied in the third.
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You are right. It was near the end with 5 or 6 minutes left. We were at the game and I thought the crowd was very much into the Unleash the Fury video. The place was deafening.
by capsyoungguns on Apr 18, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
You can make one.
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by red army line on Apr 18, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
this! but usually they don’t pop up until the games are about to start and that is 2 and a half hours away
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
Naw, I’ve posted at least one earlier in the day, when I had some comments I wanted to make about a non-Caps game but was going to be away later in the day.
Now helping to keep an eye on all things Gr8 at Alex Ovetjkin.
yeah hence why i used the word usually b/c i’v seen them pop up relatively early
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
BB, if you want an OT Hockey thread for today, and there isn’t one posted already, just go ahead and post it yourself. Make a fanshot, us the “chat” form, and it’s best if you put today’s date on it to keep it distinct.
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Tarik:
Boudreau on goalies: I’m still going to use both goalies, whether Varly plays Monday or Theo plays Monday …both [are] going to play again"
by sixsevenfiftysix on Apr 18, 2010 12:39 PM EDT reply actions
Why should Gabby tip his hand? Let the Habs think about both of them…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Apr 18, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Good read on Pyatt and his tragedy. (h/t Nucks Misconduct)
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Apr 18, 2010 12:42 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Excellent read (and rec’d), thanks SME.
They're coming.
by Bald Pollack on Apr 18, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I missed this gem from the EOTP make-ourselves-look-stupid fest (think it was added after the initial post):
From Four Habs Fans, fucking lawyers for Christsakes! An explanation of rule 69.1.
Hear that? They’re fucking lawyers! Therefore they are right about this! For Christsakes!
by sixsevenfiftysix on Apr 18, 2010 12:59 PM EDT reply actions
I love that their freeze frame shot of Knuble backing his hockey haunches into Halak’s face constitutes the incontrovertible evidence that there was goalie interference. It’s the least conclusive picture ever. I don’t even think Knuble touched him but rather just boxed him out.
It’s not even close…I’ll hold up the fact that there was zero complaints about it from their bench or the players after the game that they all thought what any sane person thought…business as usual good screen/traffic.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmm…isn’t there another Eastern playoff fanbase that follows the Caps using an SBN blog run by lawyers?
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by red army line on Apr 18, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Here is my goddamn review (sorry for the expletive so early on. I’m a goalie and a lawyer. You bet I’m worked up. Doesn’t mean I’m wrong.):
doesn’t make you automatically right, either, dumbass.
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Well, when you combine that with the fact that they’ve won 24 Cups I think he has a pretty compelling case.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Apr 18, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I can’t tell if you’re snarking or not.
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Really? I mean, what could be more relevant to all hockey discussions than how many Stanley Cups your team has won throughout their history? Shouldn’t that be the ultimate trump card?
by sixsevenfiftysix on Apr 18, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
ok, thank you :)
the absurdly large quantities of beer and vodka shots from last night broke my snark meter.
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See, that just makes it even better for them. It means they have tradition.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Apr 18, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Alas, it is DC’s cross to bear.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Apr 18, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t they mean [Gretzky]-ing porcupines?
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Apr 18, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Last night’s game was (apparently) awesome. It might be the 11th best game in Caps history. I hope we get several more new 11th best games in the coming weeks.
I hate listening to people's dreams. It is like flipping through a stack of photographs. If I'm not in any of them and nobody is having sex, I just don't care.
I said it before, and I’ll say it again… that box set is out a year too early. Several of the Caps top 10 greatest games are yet to come in the coming weeks and months…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Apr 18, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
And I honestly hope I never see any Canucks fans complaining about the “no call” on Burrows in OT last night. It would have been an absolute travesty if VAN had gotten a game-winning PP opportunity off of that. If he had gotten that call the NHL should have suspended the ref that called it and suspended Burrows for continuously trying to poison the integrity of the game. Luckily, the on ice crew got it right and all is well in the world.
I hate listening to people's dreams. It is like flipping through a stack of photographs. If I'm not in any of them and nobody is having sex, I just don't care.
Can’t be…the refs got the call from upstairs last night to fix our game. Seriously.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a theory (you're all shocked, I know)
The Habs’ play dropped off considerably in the third last night. I’m thinking this is the first sign that the strain of playing the bigger Caps and the tenderizing they’ve taken are starting to wear on them.
The way they went down in OT certainly looked like a team out of gas.
Under this happy theory, the series gets easier from here on out.
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The meat-tenderizing aspect of it may be starting to show up, but I also think that generally in a series, the better team begins to win out more and more as the series goes along as any gimmicks or funky systems the inferior team is running begin to get figured out.
No real surprise that we’d come back considering we’ve outshot, outhit, and won the faceoff battle in both games so far. The whole “outplayed” us line some people are pushing seems a little off.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 18, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s a reasonable theory. Body blows have a cumulative impact on the body. There is no doubt the Habs have been taking a lot of hits and it will begin to show up in fatigue.
This definitely happens in boxing. Body shots don’t get you a knock out, but as they add up during the fight, they wear down the other guy. The same thing happens in football, when a team can sometimes begin to run the ball in the second half much easier than the first half as the o-line is beating down the opponent’s d-line. Of course, you won’t see that with the Redskins, but…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Apr 18, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone notice Matt Bradley’s amazing play on Ovechkin’s goal?
Bradley was screening the goalie and as Carlson lined up the big shot, Bradley tried to jump over it but was checked in the back. As the puck flew underneath Bradley he was completely parallel to the ice in his attempt to get out of its way.
Unreal play by Bradley that I only noticed after watching highlights.
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Haha, I thought that he just got cross-checked, and fell awkwardly.
Right before Ovechkin poked it in, I was screaming for a penalty.
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No, he was definitely trying to avoid that puck.
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by Rob Parker on Apr 18, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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by Bald Pollack on Apr 18, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Matt Bradley and [F&B] bring the awesome.
Fixed that for ya… no doubt you have it… but so does Brads. Who else can point out what a mistake Caps Red Line made in removing him from the “Forces of Hockey” segment while on a diaper run?
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Apr 18, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
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