Does Joe Corvo Make the Caps a Better Puck Possession Team?
"Corvo was the top defenseman available in our minds and we got him. He plays a lot and in both ends of the rink. He defends well and kills and spends time on the penalty kill. He can also generate offense, which is the type of defenseman we like. He's averages more time on the ice than Mike Green. He's the one guy we liked a lot and we got him, so I'm happy with the results.'' - Capitals GM George McPhee at the trade deadline
As we discussed on Japers' Rink Radio on Saturday, the addition of Joe Corvo to the Washington Capitals brought, in theory at least, both (a) increased offense from the blue line and (b) yet another defender to quickly get the puck out of the defensive end and up ice onto the tape of the stick of one of the team's formidable forwards.
But while the Oak Park, IL native certainly provides fans with inspiration for the perfect adult beverage to enjoy an afternoon game -- a Bloody María with José Cuervo of course -- does he also bring an even greater measure of puck possession to this Caps' team going into the post-season?
Corvo's barely third in ATOI/G amongst Caps' D at 20:12 since donning Capital red. So his on-ice performance, not to mention replacing the ice time of Brian Pothier, for whom he was dealt, and pushing down fellow blue liner John Erskine (certainly not known as a puck mover) into a reserve role, has a significant effect. How significant?
First, Corvo's season-to-date Corsi rating puts him tops in that category amongst Caps' D (an impressive 10.96, good for 16th best in the league amongst D with at least 30 GP this season) and just ahead of Mike Green. And second just behind Green in ratio of Corsi on-ice vs. off-ice. By comparison, the defender for whom he was traded, Brian Pothier, has a negative Corsi rating. (Despite what Don Cherry says, we find this "Corsi thing" to be compelling.)
To break down one aspect of that rating, at even strength, Corvo himself has blocked 32 opposing shots and has had 51 of his shots blocked on the season, compared to Pothier blocking 70 and having 44 blocked. That Potsy had so many opportunities to block shots tells you a bit about how much more often his opponents had the puck while he was on the ice than did Washington.
Second, Corvo's been quite adept at protecting the puck since joining the Caps, commiting just 2 giveaways in 11 GP. Compare that to Pothier's 0.5 giveaways per game (as a Cap) and Erskine's 0.75 giveaways per game.
Third, let's look at the team's performance since Corvo joined Les Capitals, examining a few common metrics to measure puck possession:
SF/G |
SA/G |
BS/G |
PP/G |
PK/G |
|
Season to date |
32.9 |
30.9 |
14 |
3.86 |
3.95 |
Since March 4* |
35.4 |
29.7 |
16 |
3.73 |
3.73 |
* Excluding the 3/20 game vs. TBL, for which Corvo was scratched.
These last discrepancies aren't much, and rarely can one skater, no matter how times he's tapped to hop over the boards, so dramatically improve a team of eighteen. But in the playoffs, just one giveaway averted, just one more shot on goal, or just one fewer shot directed on the Caps' net, can be the difference between victory and defeat.
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Would have loved to have gotten Kubina, but Corvo filled a definite need, and if at the very least he’s making the team play John Erskine fewer minutes, he’s well worth the deal.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 29, 2010 2:13 PM EDT reply actions
And considering ATL was/is competitive they weren’t going to move Kubina unless we overpaid.
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Yeah….and not sure he would have waived his NTC clause either.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 29, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
For DC I bet he would.
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by Rob Parker on Mar 29, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice stat work. I didn’t realize Corvo’s Corsi ratings were so excellent.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 29, 2010 2:29 PM EDT reply actions
Thank You!
Since he’s arrived, I’ve been impressed with Corvo and it’s nice to have my perception bias borne out by statistics.
I get why some people aren’t huge Corvo fans. He looks somewhat dispassionate while playing and he doesn’t run around on the ice making big hits. What others see as lackadaisical, I see as calm and collected. His ability to get the puck out of the zone even when he’s under pressure has been a huge boon to the Caps’ transition game and will pay big dividends in the playoffs.
He’s been on the ice for more goals-against than I would like, but having watched many of those goals I believe he’s been the victim of bad luck and breakdowns by his defensive parter (Poti, usually). I blame him for the Guerin goal against the Pens, but not too many others. (On a similar note, I felt much the same way watching Alzner earlier this season when he was paired with Sloan and Erskine – he was on the ice for a lot of goals, but his partners were just crapping the bed all over the place.)
Excellent research and well-written.
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by D'ohboy on Mar 29, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
If someone ran a quick check of giveaways by each of the D since Corvo arrived, I bet he’s near the bottom (i.e. protecting the puck the best).
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Poti: 10 games played (with Corvo in the lineup); 7 GvA
Erskine: 4 GP; 3 GvA
Green: 11 GP; 12 GvA
Schultz: 9 GP; 4 GvA
Carlson: 10 GP; 11 GvA
Morrisonn: 8 GP; 3 GvA
Sloan: 3 GP; 1 GvA
Interesting.
by Stephen Pepper on Mar 29, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
But how many GvA for Corvo over that stretch?
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Two in 11 GP.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 29, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
So yeah, pretty much right at the bottom. Very impressive, especially given that he’s looking to generate offense.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 29, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s a little disrespectful to start commenting without reading the post. I trust it won’t happen again.
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by Rob Parker on Mar 29, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
In fairness to me, I’d read a draft post that did not include that number.
But yeah, I’m a piece of crap.
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by Stephen Pepper on Mar 29, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t worry. These posts don’t matter. I’m sure you’ll pick it up in the playoffs.
by b.orr4 on Mar 29, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
As a paying customer of this blog (huh?), you have every right to boo my effort.
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by J.P. on Mar 29, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
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Great. Now I have to change my name to "Jaromir meet Alex".
by Chris meet Alex on Mar 29, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
Nice.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 29, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
But wouldn’t it upset you a little considering how much you’ve given us? And don’t you deserve better? ;)
by Bushwood Bushwhacker on Mar 29, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope. I deserve ridicule for that one, so long as I’m adequately praised for the rest of my work that is deserving.
Also, I noticed that the folks giving me crap are the long-time, diehard fans and not just the fairweather bandwagoners, for what it’s worth. :)
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by J.P. on Mar 29, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Taking posts off is never acceptable!
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I was saying boo-urns.
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by D'ohboy on Mar 29, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
HANS MOLEMAN FTW!
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by Chris meet Alex on Mar 29, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Continuity!
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 29, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Rec’d for hilarity.
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by feeya7 on Mar 29, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Any particular reason you chose to bold the two guys you did? I’d also be willing to bet Carlson’s GvAs were front-loaded in those 10 games.
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Not for nothing, but the puck carriers – Green and Carlson – are always gonna have more GvA (as you well know). That makes Corvo’s two GvA all the more impressive.
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Yeah I definitely agree. Considering how much he has the puck and that he isn’t quite sure where his forward help is going to be it’s impressive that he’s not just throwing the puck away. I generally prefer a D eat the puck on the boards than blindly dump it. I’m not sure if that’s what Corvo is doing but somehow he’s not coughing up the puck and that’s all I care about.
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I generally prefer a D eat the puck on the boards than blindly dump it.
Yes! For the love of God YES! Nothing drives me nuts more than D who are unwilling to eat the puck. Erskine is the worst, with Poti being close behind.
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I generally prefer a D eat the puck on the boards than blindly dump it.
I’ve been trying to tell my D linemates that for 3 years now… yet, it happens at every level, you just have to be jumpy with the puck at your league (beit Beer or NHL) and you’re “that guy” who wings it blindly.
Don’t be that guy.
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by Chris meet Alex on Mar 29, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. He’s better than Erskin, Sloan, and Pothier, so if it pushes them out of the lineup then the team is going to be better.
I wonder what his Corsi is since he’s been on the Caps.
About 12.05, so a bit above his season to date.
by Stephen Pepper on Mar 29, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Numbers efficiently crunched by hand. And my hand is tired.
by Stephen Pepper on Mar 29, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
You’ll go blind if you keep that up.
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by D'ohboy on Mar 29, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I am a little surprised at this analysis also. In all of his games I have not been terribly impressed with Corvo’s defensive or offensive performance.
My visual observation of his defensive play is that the is “soft” on the puck and loses many of the board battles against hard forechecking forwards.
I don’t think I’ve once said to myself while watching him, “Wow! That was a great defensive play.” (unlike some of my internal thoughts on individual plays made by Green, Mo, Shultz, and even Carlson).
I guess the numbers contradict my personal observations, but I considering how much we gave up for him, I think I expected quite a bit more.
That being said, I’m still glad he’s with us, if only to cut down on Mike Green’s ice time and give us good depth at defense needed for a (hopefully) long playoff run.
I agree in the sense that the numbers seem to indicate that he’s been playing better than I thought he was, but I don’t think he’s been particularly “soft” with the puck, either.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 29, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
It does seem to be though that he doesn’t really “win” the puck—he simply keeps the other guys to the outside long enough for the Caps to get back possession. Whatever works, I suppose.
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by red army line on Mar 29, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the sense I’ve gotten, though I’ve missed a bunch of games recently. He doesn’t seem to win a lot of one on one battles. However, he certainly has turned the puck over less than his reputation would indicated he would.
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considering how much we gave up for him
We really didn’t give up all that much. A 2nd round pick is about it.
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Pretty much. It’s debatable whether Osala really has the skating ability and overall offensive instincts to stick in the NHL, and the 2nd is a low pick in a draft that’s supposed to be pretty shallow.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 29, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Low 2nd, I mean.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 29, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe my estimation of what we gave up was based on not really understanding what Osala was and what other teams got for 2nd rounders (Penguins in particular).
Based on things that I read on Osala’s potential and the Carolina POV on the trade, perhaps I am a bit biased in my assessment on the improvement he is to the team for this year’s playoff run. I definitely think he makes us a deeper team, I guess I was still hoping for a more “defensive” defenseman during the trade deadline.
If I remember correctly, despite scoring 2 goals against the Hurricanes a few weeks ago, I don’t believe he’s scored since and he had a huge defensive gaffe (pinched in with the score tied) in the last minute of the game which resulted in a last minute breakaway goal. We were lucky to be able to tie it up afterwords, but it left a really bad taste in my mouth at the time and perhaps lingers on.
The “pinch” you’re referring to wasn’t Corvo – it was Green. Corvo had gone “low” off the draw, Belanger took the puck back to the point. Instead of staying back to cover, Green tried to sneak in. When Belanger’s pass got intercepted, Larose was off to the races.
Maybe Corvo went to the wrong place, but it looked to me as though he was doing an overlap with Belanger. Perhaps it was a miscommunication, but it sure looked to me like Green lost his man when he pinched.
Here’s the video.
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Thanks for the video. But after reviewing it, the video seems to confirm poor decision by both defensemen on that play as both of them moved up their respective walls, leaving a completely clean breakaway attempt with no one to cover in the last minute of a tied game.
As I’m still learning the some of the basics of hockey strategy, please explain to me what the difference between Green’s move and Corvo’s move. Was Corvo supposed to move that far up on that play?
Corvo moved up in the play as Belanger dropped back. The general rule is that you keep two guys back, so as one guy moves up another guy moves back to cover the point. As Belanger moved back, Corvo moved up in the play to create space and give him a passing outlet. Then Belanger tried to force a pass in to Chimera and turned it over.
Inexplicably, both Green and Belanger decided to pinch in at that point. Technically, I’m not sure which guy was responsible for Larose – it looks as though it was Belanger. Regardless, it’s both of their responsibilities in a 4-on-4 situation to read the play and realize that Corvo and Chimera are down low.
Again, maybe there was a miscommunication, or maybe Corvo was in the wrong place, but if you’re Belanger and Green on the point and you see two guys down low, you can’t pinch in. Maybe one of you, but definitely not both.
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That play is not on Corvo. He drops down the half boards as Belanger is circling back to the point where Corvo was. If he doesn’t do that there are two players in the same spot.
To me the biggest fault on that play goes to Belanger. He has to be aware at that moment that he is in the position of the high defensemen and can’t pinch on the puck.
by freakinandpeakin on Mar 29, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The pick is in a “meh” draft. Chances are that Osala plays more NHL games than the guy taken with that pick, IMO, but we’ll see.
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The pick is next year right? Who knows how that draft will be billed by the time it comes around. Seems like every draft is weak until the 4 months before the draft when scouts all of a sudden find a bunch of players they like.
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Whoops, I think you’re right. Our 2nd from this year went to the Wild.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 29, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep, you’re right, the Corvo trade was the 2011 2nd rounder.
I generally agree with your point, although some drafts (2003 and 2008 come to mind) were thought to be unusually deep a couple of years beforehand, if I remember correctly.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 29, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, 2003 and 08 were anomalies. But 09 was supposed to be weak up until the spring when all of a sudden there were a bunch more players that were supposed to be good. I think 2010 is shaping up that way too and I guess I wouldn’t be shocked if 2011 played out like that.
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I think Osala will make it in the NHL, but only like Sloan, and only because the Canes are such a shallow organization.
I agree totally about the stupidity of the average person. Horrifyingly, nearly 50% of people are even stupider!
I think that’s a little unfair, just because Osala has way, way better tools at his disposal. But Sloan is a fantastic skater, comparatively. It’s too bad that so many gifts wind up under so many different Christmas trees, ya know?
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 29, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely agree with that. That pick is likely to be the end of the second round unless the Caps completely and unexpectedly pull a Bruins next season.
by freakinandpeakin on Mar 29, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
One of my favorite parts about Corvo is how if there is a loose puck on the sidewall in the offensive zone he can pinch in quickly and effectively where he will either come out with the puck, pass it to a Cap, or tie it up on the boards for a multi man battle. That’s something that Erskine can’t do without being a huge risk defensively, Pothier wouldn’t ever try, and Poti is terrible at.
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For more evidence of Poti being terrible at it, watch the JBo goal from last game. Sheesh.
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For more evidence ofPotiSteckel being terrible at it, watch the JBo goal from last game. Sheesh.
FTFY
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Wasn’t Steckel on the backcheck in the middle of the ice? Poti pinches to the face off circle and stands with his skates and back against the boards and basically does nothing else. Once the puck got knocked free he was toast. Terrible decision with the 4th line on the ice. I think he did the same thing just a couple shifts before when MP chased down JBo on the backcheck on another 2 on 1. Absolutely loved the defensive effort from MP all night. He earned that up arrow even without the goal, IMO.
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Yes, the same David Steckel who was between JBo and Theo at his own blueline (and for 2/3 of the length of the ice), yet somehow fell behind him two strides later and did nothing to defense him.
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Jay “2.2 million per goal” Bouwmeester, none the less.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 29, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, we did spend $4 million on a goal last season…
Can Corvo jump into the rush a bit more? Green and Carlson are doing it, heck, I’ve even see Schultz do it. Want to see it more from Corvo, (as long as he doesn’t fall on his way back to leave a forward to play D)
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by red army line on Mar 29, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I just watched it again. Terrible backcheck by Steckel. I’m trying to get footage of the Poti pinch from renhoak. It doesn’t look as bad in the highlights because he’s already backing out of the zone but it was a terrible pinch. Chimera also let Kotalik alone in front on the first goal. Bad D coverage all around in that period.
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Thanks for the analysis discussing the strengths and value of Corvo. Many posters have been extremely negative about him, as of late. While he doesn’t necessarily have the perfect skill set for the type of D-man the Caps wanted to acquire, he is not a total liability either. He was also the best available defenseman the Caps could acquire at the time.
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Mike Green.
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Joe Corvo.
Does George McPhee have some system for spotting defensemen who are better defensively than they look?
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by Gould Old Days on Mar 29, 2010 6:59 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Everyone knows Mike Green can’t play defense. Why else would he have been left off team Canada?
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We hope so
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by Rob Parker on Mar 29, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Guys, getting drafted is so overrated.
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Yeah, it sucks. People expect you to be good right away!
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by red army line on Mar 30, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
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On Corvo, it had never dawned on me until today, that we acquired two guys from Carolina whose names make us think of alcoholic beverages.
Joe Corvo — who makes us think of Jose Cuervo tequila, especially when his name is a translation of Jose Cuervo. With Corvo and Cuervo being the Italian and the Spanish for Crow.
Scott Walker — who makes us think of Johnny Walker Red
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