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Saturday Caps Clips: Caps @ Blues Game Day

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Your savory breakfast links:

  • Previews of tonight's game against the Blues from Vogs, RtR and NHL.com, and be sure to check out our SB Nation partner St. Louis Game Time for coverage from the other side of tonight's match up.
  • Will John Carlson be in the Caps' lineup tonight? [Patriot-News]
  • The Caps will look to stop a bad recent trend tonight and get off to a good start. [WaPo]
  • "The Capitals are hockey's version of baseball's 1927 Yankees." I'll take it (though I certainly hope no one on this squad ends up with a disease named after him). [St. Louis Post-Dispatch]
  • Bruce Boudreau on his players come playoff time: "I'm 100 percent convinced they'll be able to tone down cheating offensively and play a little more defensive minded." [The Sporting News]
  • And Bruce on his acting career. [D.C. Sports Bog]
  • The Caps supposedly are kicking the tires on both Dwayne Roloson and Andy Sutton. "For a team like Washington, Sutton could help them beat Pittsburgh and get to the Cup Final," says an NHL director of pro scouting. [NYI Point Blank]
  • One final look at The Streak. [Peerless]
  • On what the Caps' relatively big ratings mean. [OFB]
  • Alex Ovechkin and Evgeni Malkin - Olympic linemates? [Russian Hockey Fans]
  • The second part of that monster AO interview. [RMNB]
  • The Post has a special Ovi Olympic page. Check it out. [WaPo]
  • For the ladies... some of Russia's sexy Olympians. [TLTnews.net]
  • Hey, Sid and Alex are rivals! [CTV]
  • Who's better: Sid or... well, you know the rest. [Olympic Hockey Blog]
  • Pretty surprising that only one Cap cracks the Top 20 in jerseys sales. I mean, Claude Giroux outsells Nicklas Backstrom? Really? [The Globe and Mail]
  • Some Snovechkin leftovers and other miscellany. [D.C. Sports Bog]
  • Finally, happy 35th birthday, Brad Norton.

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Anyone else having severe lag problems? I basically cannot read yesterday’s clips. 1000+ threads normally work fairly well for me, but yesterday’s 800 is intolerable.

The bottom of my screen says “waiting for video.nhl.com” all the time in yesterday’s clips. I wonder if the game highlights widget is causing the problem for me. Anyway, before I write to support, I thought I’d see if anyone else is encountering the same thing.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Feb 13, 2010 9:31 AM EST reply actions  

I did. Not sure whether the issue has to do with that Facebook connect link or the KY ad … I wouldn’t know.

"Where can you go from there? Where? ... Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?"

by Christoph J on Feb 13, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Count me in, too. If only F&B knew how long I’d wait in order to access his posts (seriously, lots of good discussion and analysis yesterday, folks!).

by cuqui on Feb 13, 2010 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m having trouble just getting the rink to load. I figured it was just my internet connection since I’ve been having trouble with other websites too.

by Elliotte on Feb 13, 2010 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

If all of you guys could drop support@sbnation.com a line, that’d be great.

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by J.P. on Feb 13, 2010 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I would type something, then wait 30 seconds for it to even show up. It happened on three different computers, I finally gave up. Things seem to be ok today though.

by Karl W on Feb 13, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, that’s our bad. We need to get more out there for you guys, even if it’s just open thread.

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by J.P. on Feb 13, 2010 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think it’s that, cause I’ve been having trouble getting the main page to load and even short threads like this one. I think it might be something in the SBnation coding or maybe something with my browser

by Elliotte on Feb 13, 2010 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ll echo Elliotte here. I’m having problems I never had before, even with threads of similar lengths. Friday thread is still laggy for me today. This one is fine (so far)

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Feb 13, 2010 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

So did I.

I would generally have trouble with the mega threads we’d have under IE but would have better luck with Firefox. Yesterday, I had this problem under Firefox.

Glad it wasn’t just me noticing the problem.

Rocking the Red since 1975

by CapsFan75 on Feb 13, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

the lag was awful yetserday. Never had anything like it before.

Kung-fu Rink Rabbit
On Draper having to wear a USA jersey at practice: "well at least the Wings can settle bets without involving gold plated desert eagles!"

by RedBirdie on Feb 13, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

It was slow on PPP and Second City Hockey as well, so ’twas an SBN-wide thing I am thinking.

by bigeugene on Feb 13, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I had to close and re-load the Caps Clips a few times as well.

Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."

by Steck It Out on Feb 13, 2010 12:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The suspense…

I hope the Caps come out with a convincing win in this one, of course.

But if they don’t at least they have the break to regroup.

And I didn’t notice any problems, Gould.

Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 13, 2010 9:31 AM EST reply actions  

Ominous clips thread! Will more appear, or will it go the way of the Olympic torch prong thing?

Game-Over Green? Canada-Over Carlson!

by Scott in Shaw on Feb 13, 2010 9:34 AM EST reply actions  

More has appeared. I got a late start to this morning.

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by J.P. on Feb 13, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Were you waiting for the fourth part of the Olympic cauldron to come out?

Damn! Looks like my women is on time.

by Bald Pollack on Feb 13, 2010 10:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

I had odd dreams of giant polar bears last night. I think I have Olympic fever.

I have a C on my heart.

by boutros23 on Feb 13, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Or you’re in Lost.

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by J.P. on Feb 13, 2010 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Now that would be awesome. . .dibs on kate!

Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .

by kingzman264 on Feb 13, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice.

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by J.P. on Feb 13, 2010 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

We were chatting last night during the ceremony,and at that point we’re all yelling to get it over with already, we want to go to sleep. When you’ve invested that much time in it, you have to stay to the end.

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Feb 13, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

caps seek goalie help?

Anyone on ESPN.com see the Insider link to “After losses, Caps seek Goalie help”? I can’t access it because I don’t have insider. Anyone have leads to what they’re talking about?

by my92agsr on Feb 13, 2010 9:42 AM EST reply actions  

This should answer your avatarlessly asked question.

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by J.P. on Feb 13, 2010 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Defenseman Jeff Schultz said, “It seems like were trying to force it up the middle. Teams take it away and we’re still trying to do it. In our zone we’re watching instead of moving and closing in on the [opposing] players. It’s giving them time and space. We get running around and that’s when you get in trouble.”

Truer words were never spoken. At least it’s no mystery what needs to change. As they say, “Just Do It!”

by kfjje on Feb 13, 2010 9:43 AM EST reply actions  

Schultz for Jack Adams!

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Feb 13, 2010 9:50 AM EST up reply actions   3 recs

Jeff Schultz speaks! And speaks the truth!

I have a C on my heart.

by boutros23 on Feb 13, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

And we “want the truth!” But, Fleischmann and Semin “can’t handle the truth!”

"Where can you go from there? Where? ... Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?"

by Christoph J on Feb 13, 2010 10:17 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

So says the coach ...

On the current state of Caps’ defense and its ability come playoff time

Craig Custance: “One question that constantly surrounds your team is whether or not this offensive style will work in the playoffs. Will it?”

Bruce Boudreau: “That’s what everybody says. But the first 10 games, we held teams to an average of two goals a game. We can do that. The last five games we let it get away from us. Our penalties, we’ve been taking too many minors because we’re getting lazy and cheating … Last year in the first 10 games of the playoffs, we had the best goals-against average in the playoffs. So we can do it. It’s just harder and the regular season, when you’re scoring goals like we’re scoring, people tend to cheat in their own zone. That’s what’s happening. But they all have the common goal of wanting to win the big prize. I’m 100 percent convinced they’ll be able to tone down cheating offensively and play a little more defensive minded.”

On team’s needs before the trade deadline

Craig Custance: “Have you given (general manager) George McPhee a wish list before the trade deadline?”

Bruce Boudreau: “I listen to what he and the scouts say. If he asks me questions, I’ll give him an answer. I like our team, but if something comes along that makes you better you do it.”

Any thoughts on his reference to having the best GAG in last year’s playoffs through the first 10 games? I found that comment interesting in that he seems confident about the Caps’ capability to tighten up the D as a team. However, as we all know, a big factor was the revelation of Varlamov plus the fact we played an offensively challenged NYR team in the first round.

"Where can you go from there? Where? ... Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?"

by Christoph J on Feb 13, 2010 10:13 AM EST reply actions  

Agreed. Boasting about shutting down the Rangers’ offense is like bragging that you slept with Paris Hilton. I mean, sure, it’s nice, but it’s not like everyone else can’t do it, too.

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by J.P. on Feb 13, 2010 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s nice?!

I have a C on my heart.

by boutros23 on Feb 13, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

10 games is more than a Rangers series.

No Alex, no ratings. Know Alex, know ratings.

by gotsparkly on Feb 13, 2010 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Isn’t he referring to the winning streak?

by cuqui on Feb 13, 2010 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

He is.

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by J.P. on Feb 13, 2010 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Err, he is at the top, then he says this, "Last year in the first 10 games of the playoffs, we had the best goals-against average in the playoffs. "

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by J.P. on Feb 13, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

True, but that included Game 1-3 of the Pens-Caps tilt. After that the flood gates opened when the Pens started running all over the Caps.

"Where can you go from there? Where? ... Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?"

by Christoph J on Feb 13, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Pens started running all over the Caps offensively.

Clarification

"Where can you go from there? Where? ... Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?"

by Christoph J on Feb 13, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Right, but the outstanding GAA in the Rangers series and a strong (but not as strong) start to the Pens series kept that GAA down.

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by J.P. on Feb 13, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

GAG = GAA … typo FAIL

"Where can you go from there? Where? ... Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?"

by Christoph J on Feb 13, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Had to laugh at the indignation that the Caps only have one player in the top 20 of sweater sales.

I know we all hate to hear it, but the whole Washington is only made up of bandwagon fans in Ovechkin jerseys has a basis somewhere. We have a lot of new fans, and they buy the jersey of the most popular and exciting player. We have a lot of old fans, and they buy the jersey of the most exciting and popular player. Its just the way it works.

Personally, I’m waiting for either Carlson or Perrault to make a permanent transition to the Caps roster, but that is just me.

by HateOffSeason on Feb 13, 2010 10:18 AM EST reply actions  

Well yea, but Green and Backstrom are superstars in their own right

Aim for the head baby Jesus

by Doncosmic on Feb 13, 2010 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed, but #8 is just too damned good. Maybe if he weren’t quite as dominating as he is, guys who are also superstars might get more sales on this team.

by HateOffSeason on Feb 13, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s hard to say without seeing the total jersey sales, but is the gap between Crosby and Malkin or Crosby and Fleury, on a “superstar” level that much smaller than that between Ovi and Nick or Greener?

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by J.P. on Feb 13, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

One thing to point out about the jersey sales — this is from shop.nhl.com. I have no doubt that a significant number of jerseys are sold via other outlets, probably more in total. So I take all of this with a few grains of salt.

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Feb 13, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Not sure I like your examples JP. Hard to ever compare against Pittsburgh. While D.C. is bigger than Pittsburgh, many of its residents are transitional and don’t necessarily ever create long term relationships with the local teams. In essence, Washington is still a small market.

Pittsburgh, on the other hand, is anything but a small market. Even thought the population isn’t huge, many, many fans have moved away from Pittsburgh over the years and retained their link to the local teams. As many stadiums and arena’s outside of Pittsburgh can attest, the army of black and gold shows up everywhere outside of Pittsburgh, and it isn’t just fans traveling.

Also, with Crosby and Fleury, you have the Canadian ties which will drive sales. I know Green does as well, but as many fanposts have pointed out lately, Green is not popular with the Canadian media, and that has to hurt his support amongst the Canadian fans. And Malkin, with his year last year, at this point in his career, has definitely separated himself starwise from Green and Backstrom.

Something else to note is that while the Caps do seem to be growing in popularity outside Washington, it hasn’t really been for the team as much as for Ovechkin. Go back to that recent western Canada trip, Ovechkin was treated as a superstar and it was like the cities were almost throwing parades for him. The other Caps? Not so much.

by HateOffSeason on Feb 13, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Was in Pittsburgh recently for three days and can attest that a good portion of the population was wearing Steelers, Pens or Pirates ware. Much, much more than you’d see in DC. And this was not at a game, it was in the neighborhoods, the Strip, downtown, in the stores, on the bus. The population there is totally into their sports teams. They just don’t have as many entertainment alternatives as we have.

by Karl W on Feb 13, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, Washington is a fairly formal city. Many people just have fewer opportunities to wear their very casual sportsgear, or feel less comfortable doing so. For example, I only wear a jersey when I’m physically at a game.

"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."

by CapitalCentre on Feb 13, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed on all counts. But circling back to the initial point… Claude Giroux is a bigger seller than Nick Backstrom is still a “WTF” in my book?

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by J.P. on Feb 13, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

A few months ago Eric McErlain tweeted about a nifty widget that tallies up monthly eBay merchandise sales by team and JP put it in Clips. I just fished out the link with the help of SBN’s excellent search engine:

http://www.terapeak.com/widgets/indexes/nhl/

You’ll see that there are three teams that are dwarfing the League in sales: Pens, Hawks, and Caps. And on average, we pay less for our tickets and more for our jerseys than the fans of the other teams.

Now helping to keep an eye on all things Gr8 at Alex Ovetjkin.

by EmilyB on Feb 13, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Which only makes the absence of Backstrom/Green on that list even worse. We’re buying jerseys, it’s just the one guy.

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 13, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but that one guy is so incredibly special. Our household owns three jerseys – a black Kono, a black Kolzig, and a red Ovechkin. We love many of the “lesser lights” on the team but there was no question who our first new jersey would be. I would have to say that a red Backstrom will probably be our next purchase.

by darwintheboxer on Feb 13, 2010 3:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Wysh makes an interesting observation that many of the jerseys listed are Winter Classic players, and the sales include Classic jerseys. He mentions that Giroux’s is the only one on the list that has to be custom made.

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Feb 13, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Dammit! You beat me!

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by J.P. on Feb 13, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I just got back from a Costco run, so I was reading the afternoon updates. Sorry if I was ahead of you. :-)

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Feb 13, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Wyshynski makes a really good point here – the Flyers and B’s get a bump here from the Winter Classic.

Related: the Pens and others have three jerseys, so any “true fan” will have one of each. Any “true fan” of the Caps only has to buy two, so that plays in as well.

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by J.P. on Feb 13, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

You should see the crappy Backie jersey I got from shop.nhl.com. Horrible. I returned it listing the reason “Child Like Lettering”. Seriously the “s” and the “t” overlapped. Had one made at the game, ordered before the first, picked up after the game, it was sweet.

Just to start another anti-Caps conspiracy the butcherd Bakie shipped from an address in Pennsylvania.

by d_fens on Feb 13, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Personally, I’m waiting for either Carlson

I with you on that one.

by kfjje on Feb 13, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree, to some extent, but the fact that the Caps fairly recently changed uniforms and even more recently gained popularity and have had young players emerge has provided a bump in all jersey sales, I’d think. I’m just surprised that some teams have three, four guys that outsell the Caps’ #2 (says the proud owner of Laich and Green jerseys).

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by J.P. on Feb 13, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Thing with having Ovie on the team is, if people are only going to get one jersey, it’s typically going to behis. That’s true for me. I’ve wanted to get a Steckel for a while and now that he’s signed his extension I probably will.

But being strapped for cash one of the reasons I went with Ovie, besides the obvious ones, was he signed that 13 year deal. I’ve gotten burned w/football jersey’s multiple times, so now contract length is something that comes into play. Once Backstrom signs his extension I am sure I will end up with one of his.

If worse comes to worse though, I’ve always got my old Bondra and Hunter.

by BradleyFightingVehicle on Feb 13, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree, that was a consideration for me as well, but I bought a Backstrom because I know GMGM is not a total idiot

Aim for the head baby Jesus

by Doncosmic on Feb 13, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

At the bottom of the list, it says this is based on shop.nhl.com

My guess is that there aren’t a lot of -Canadians- Americans buying jerseys from the league’s online store given they’re available pretty much everywhere.

by miseenjeu on Feb 13, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Is that your analysis?

I would definitely expect a lot of sales to come from there.

by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 13, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think it’s a case of bandwagon Caps fans—I think it’s a case of non-Caps fans buying Ovechkin jerseys. When I went to the Caps game in Vancouver, I’d say about half of the children there were wearing Ovechkin jerseys, and rooting for the Canucks.

The fact of the matter is that if you’re a general hockey fan and not a fan of the Caps specifically, why would you get Green/Backstrom when you can get an Ovechkin?

by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 13, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

But that doesn’t address why Giroux outsells Backstrom.

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 13, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

It should also be noted that most of the teams on there have third jerseys that people can buy.

by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 13, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Right, that’s what I noted above – the Pens and others have three jerseys, so any "true fan" will have one of each. Any "true fan" of the Caps only has to buy two, so that plays in as well.

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by J.P. on Feb 13, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I disagree on one point. Quite a few fans get their sweaters from outlets away from VC and Kettler. Most all of those only carry Ovie sweaters and can’t or won’t order any other player’s sweaters. I have a Langway sweater that is signed so I don’t wear it anywhere( it is framed), so when I wanted to get a new one I went to a local store.

What amazing date in history are we giong back to today, Mr. Peabody?

by dlw66 on Feb 13, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I completely fail to see how Sutton helps us. He’s not a top 4 D and we have plenty of bottom pair guys already. Oooooh he’s big. But he’s slow and can’t move the puck.

And why Roloson? Is he that much better than Biron? I don’t think we’re looking at him to carry us in the spring so in a backup role Biron is cheaper and UFA after this year. No thanks to the NYI cast offs.

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 13, 2010 10:24 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

You mean you don’t understand why the Caps would want a slightly bigger and meaner, less-disciplined and more injury-prone John Erskine? Gee, why not?

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by J.P. on Feb 13, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not sure we do want him. It seemed more like the Isles GM was trying to sell him than us trying to actually buy him.

They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.

by Bman21212 on Feb 13, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

And why Roloson? Is he that much better than Biron?

Yes. But right, only if you were looking for someone to “carry” you. Roloson was great with regular work this season; then when he started platooning again with DiPietro, his form suffered. (The same argument, I guess, could be made to explain Biron’s weak form, but his play shows fundamental issues that frighten me.)

I would trust Roloson with a playoff run, but is optimal Roloson better than optimal Theodore? Definitely not worth another year at $2.5 million (and age 41) to find out.

Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.

by Dominik on Feb 13, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I agree Roloson is a better goalie than Biron, I just wasn’t clear about it. I think Biron has a better backup mentality so that was part of my thinking. And, of course, the contract stuff.

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 13, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

JP, the first sentence above says:

Previews of tonight’s game against the Sens

Have you fixed it since I’ve clicked through? Or trying to replay that game?

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Feb 13, 2010 10:30 AM EST reply actions  

Oy… rough morning (and thanks).

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by J.P. on Feb 13, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Hopefully caused by a fun night at least.

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 13, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Indeed.

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by J.P. on Feb 13, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Memory is failing me ...

Apologies for this re-post of a comment during yesterday’s OT. Now I see why it can get ignored. It’s hockey related. Anyways …

Does anyone remember what period (general time frame) during the Caps-Pens game when the following happened:

Crosby relentlessly drove towards the net and puck, positioning self advantageously (as is usual since he’s got so much strength on his skates and is hard to knock off from the puck.) Backstrom played the body and impressively held his ground against Crosby … not being pushed over and thus making Crosby having to work for every inch of the ice to get the puck or get closer to the net.

Working on a FanPost and have not had a chance to watch the replay of that game nor do I have it DVR’d.

"Where can you go from there? Where? ... Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?"

by Christoph J on Feb 13, 2010 10:37 AM EST reply actions  

3rd Period. That’s all I can help you with. I may re-watch and I’ll let you know.

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 13, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Appreciate it. Trying to put some videos supplemented by stills to break down the development of plays directly involving Backstrom/Malkin in particular. May need some of your input. Renhoak provided me some of the vids — needed to point him towards the general time frame of that specific sequence so he can get me more.

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by Christoph J on Feb 13, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting parallel in names:

Tatiana Ovechkina was on the Russian team with a Yuliyana Semenova.

Ovi is on the Capitals (and Russian team) with Alexander Semin.

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by CapsFan75 on Feb 13, 2010 11:06 AM EST reply actions  

On the previous thread, I had clicked on the link to the David Backes article. (Yes, topical given that we’re playing the Blues and the Olympics is coming up.)

Interesting that he was an Electrical Engineering major (and a math whiz).

I recall once reading that Flash’s best subject was Math and that Zach Miskovic at Hershey was a Math Major.

It’s interesting that there seem to be a fair number of hockey players whose strong suit was math. (As a math major myself, I find that to be the case.)

Another scholastic note: I read that Zach Parise was a great student in school and had even skipped a grade.

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by CapsFan75 on Feb 13, 2010 11:13 AM EST reply actions  

Some David Backes and the physics of the slapshot, at Popular Mechanics.

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by boutros23 on Feb 13, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Nice Find

F&B’s already growing man-crush-o’meter of that guy will go to second by second

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by Christoph J on Feb 13, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I subscribe. When I saw the Olympics blurb on the cover, I had to see what they did for hockey.

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by boutros23 on Feb 13, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

So am I converting you yet?

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 13, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

So Nylander don’t seem to have a good time in Finland. He got one goal and one assist in five games and in his third game he got a game misconduct for high sticking and almost poked Tomi Pettinens eye out. And in his fifth game he got a game misconduct b/c he hit one of the linesman with his stick.

by Malin A on Feb 13, 2010 11:25 AM EST reply actions  

Nylander is dirty!

Seriously, what’s up with that? Was the linesman incident a tantrum?

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by boutros23 on Feb 13, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I haven’t seen any video of it yet but it sounds like it was some sort of a tantrum yes. The player he hurt gonna miss 4 weeks btw.

by Malin A on Feb 13, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

What was the high sticking incident like?

Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 13, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think it was intentional just bad luck.

by Malin A on Feb 13, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow, yikes.

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by boutros23 on Feb 13, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Here’s the video. Not malicious at all more of a love tap but stupid nonetheless.

by Malin A on Feb 13, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Nyls has gone rouge!

(On Mike Green) He’s urban, you northern folk wouldn’t understand!

by Ovechwin on Feb 13, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t you mean rogue? Or do you really mean rouge (red in French)?

(New Japers joke coming. Rouge substituted for rogue as in mute for moot.)

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by CapsFan75 on Feb 13, 2010 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

hahah Score! I’m a meme!

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by Ovechwin on Feb 14, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Officially, per @washcaps:
Caps recall John Carlson from Hershey and assign Chris Bourque to Hershey. Carlson is in St. Louis and eligible to play tonight.

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by boutros23 on Feb 13, 2010 11:26 AM EST reply actions  

FanShot

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by J.P. on Feb 13, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Caps center Nicklas Backstrom is one assist shy of reaching 50 for the third time in as many seasons. He is seeking to become just the sixth NHL player ever to record 50 or more helpers in each of his first three seasons in the league. Backstrom would join Wayne Gretzky, Dale Hawerchuk, Mario Lemieux, Evgeni Malkin and Peter Stastny in that elite club.

That’s just amazing.

by Malin A on Feb 13, 2010 1:00 PM EST reply actions  

Holy moses. That is incredible. I <3 Nicky.

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by boutros23 on Feb 13, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha!

/laughs inappropriately at Crosby’s injury-shortened 07-08

Game-Over Green? Canada-Over Carlson!

by Scott in Shaw on Feb 13, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

He’s had those nagging groin injuries. I wonder whether they’ll ever really go away. Hooks Orpik isn’t worried about it but those are the kind of things that don’t go away easily. It’s obviously not because he isn’t in shape or doesn’t work hard enough, because he does. It may just be genetic or something.

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 13, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I was also surprised Baxter jerseys didn’t make the Top 20 (maybe it has something to do with the fact that I’ve got a Baxter jersey). Guess that means we’re all bandwagon fans, eh?

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by Jake Shapiro on Feb 13, 2010 1:05 PM EST reply actions  

though I certainly hope no one on this squad ends up with a disease named after him

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by turnituptoeleven on Feb 13, 2010 1:09 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

wtf?! A Peter Bondra rap video?! Now ive seen everything. They gotta play that if he gets into the HHOF.

by DonCaps819 on Feb 13, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

From ngreenberg’s twitter.

Only twice since the 1994-95 season has a team won the Cup with a PK% of less than 82%:
1994-95 New Jersey Devils 81.21%
2005-06 Carolina Hurricanes 81.80%
2009-10 Washington Caps: 79.01

by Malin A on Feb 13, 2010 1:17 PM EST reply actions  

Or, put another way, 25% of the last four Cup winners couldn’t kill penalties either.

Of course, those two teams have one thing in common (err, besides the hardware): red hot goalies in the spring.

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by J.P. on Feb 13, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

And PK%s that are STILL demonstrably better than ours.

by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 13, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

And offenses that, combined, would narrowly edge out the Caps’ (note: hyperbole).

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by J.P. on Feb 13, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting fact in NHL.com’s preview of Blue’s game tonight:

Teams are 49-1 when one of their players has a hat trick, excluding the last 2 Caps losses.

by jaytown99 on Feb 13, 2010 1:30 PM EST reply actions  

Definitely interesting – ngreenberg tweeted it the other night. Crazy stat.

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by J.P. on Feb 13, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotta be 49-1-1 right? Since we have two losses?

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 13, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Teams are 49-1 when one of their players has a hat trick, excluding the last 2 Caps losses.

Aim for the head baby Jesus

by Doncosmic on Feb 13, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Bah. I read excluding as including. Inflammable means flammable? What a country!

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 13, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Out of date stat, obviously.

Should it now be: 49-2-1 now?

Or is the Caps defense just that bad that they can’t even win where even an “ordinary” defense would win?

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by CapsFan75 on Feb 13, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey

Does anyone remember which number MP was when he was up here? Kind of embarrassing that I forgot his number

by washfan29 on Feb 13, 2010 1:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

85

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by J.P. on Feb 13, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks JP

I keep on getting MP and Beagles number mixed up

by washfan29 on Feb 13, 2010 2:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No problem

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by J.P. on Feb 13, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

USA Hockey

Just put up a fanshot on Jack Johnson’s trip to Vancouver yesterday.

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by Carl Putnam on Feb 13, 2010 2:12 PM EST reply actions  

Metro has announced they will be closing at MIDNIGHT tonight. Plan accordingly.

If you saw this in one of the other threads, apologies. Just want folks to know.

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by EmilyB on Feb 13, 2010 2:32 PM EST reply actions  

I’ll be scouting everyone here’s favorite goalie to trade for tonight in Glendale. I know you all are desperate to hear how great Turco looks.

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by Carl Putnam on Feb 13, 2010 2:39 PM EST reply actions  

Today in Godwin’s Law.

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by J.P. on Feb 13, 2010 2:42 PM EST reply actions  

Wow, and I thought my hatred for the Flyers was bad.

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by Christoph J on Feb 13, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

That is both horrible and unprofessional and rather hilarious at the same time. And to think its coming from Montreal, not even someone here in the mid-Atlantic

Aim for the head baby Jesus

by Doncosmic on Feb 13, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I find it pathetic on two levels. First, you are comparing a sports team and its fans to one of the worst regimes in human history. Second, its too easy to go to the Nazi card on anything you dislike. It’s like a comic using a expletive just because they can’t think of an actual joke.

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by Carl Putnam on Feb 13, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

In defense of comics, I use an expletive because it helps me think of a better word to use.

Damn! Looks like my women is on time.

by Bald Pollack on Feb 13, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Shit yeah.

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by J.P. on Feb 13, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, it would be kinda sad and lazy for a random blogger, but this guys is supposed to be a professional journalist. And I am normally someone who would defend Philly bashing to pretty much any extreme

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by Doncosmic on Feb 13, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

If a random blogger did it, he’d be slaughtered for it.

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by J.P. on Feb 13, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha. I saw that at BSH and knew that was what you were linking to before even clicking it. What an ass. As if I didn’t already disdain MON fans. I’m sure he misspelled Philadelphia for ironic affect.

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 13, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Times change: Cheechoo sent to Binghampton, Brashear sent to Hartford. Oy.

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by EmilyB on Feb 13, 2010 2:52 PM EST reply actions  

The AHL quakes.

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by boutros23 on Feb 13, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Wonder how the AHL coaches handle it when they receive these kinds of players?

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by EmilyB on Feb 13, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

What has happened to Cheechoo over the past 4 years? 93 points in ‘05-’06 down to 29 points last season and 14 so far this season. Is he hurt a lot? I see the past 2 seasons he only played 69 and 66 games, respectively. Just curious if anyone follows him.

by bigeugene on Feb 13, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

He was never very fast but then he suffered some leg injuries and now is just ridiculously slow. He can’t skate to create his own chances and he’s not with Joe Thornton anymore.

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 13, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

he’s not with Joe Thornton anymore.

Ha ha. Good point!

by bigeugene on Feb 13, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

You’d think that Brash would still have KHL options available if playing was an issue. Maybe they were fake, like virgins that make up girlfriends who live across the country?

/doesn’t know, just what I’ve heard, I swear

Damn! Looks like my women is on time.

by Bald Pollack on Feb 13, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Looks like we have our lines for tonight.

second line will be Brooks Laich-Brendan Morrison-Alexander Semin.
third line will be Fleischmann-David Steckel-Eric Fehr
fourth line will be Quintin Laing-Boyd Gordon-Matt Bradley.

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Feb 13, 2010 3:13 PM EST reply actions  

Not a fan, but it’s better than Flash @ 2C.

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 13, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Chimera just got here, and having him out leaves a pretty big hole in our lines, eh?

#who’dathunkit

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by EmilyB on Feb 13, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Well he causes Q to get in the lineup, but wouldn’t solve our lack of C depth.

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 13, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

True dat.

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by EmilyB on Feb 13, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

So if GMGM is in the market for a center, who’s available that’s worth trading for?

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Feb 13, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s not saying. But then, he rarely does.

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by EmilyB on Feb 13, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Not a lot, I’d say. A guy like Reinprecht would work if he didn’t have 2 more years @ 2 mill. That’s not terrible but I don’t know that GMGM wants to make that commitment. I can’t really think of anyone that is available and affordable and would be a good fit.

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 13, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Just curious, as TEB’s buying into the looking for a center, along with a defenseman.

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Feb 13, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

We could use it, I just don’t know who is available. I’ll take a look and let you know if I think of any other names.

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 13, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe Saku Koivu if ANA sells.

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 13, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he would fit in very well with the team; however, he has a 3 mil cap hit (I think.), is quite old, and would prolly be an expensive trade

Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .

by kingzman264 on Feb 13, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s tough when there are too many buyers and not very many sellers.

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Feb 13, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Is anyone else frightened at the prospect of Steckel at 3C for the playoffs? The reason we were so dominant in the 14 games is because we had three lines that could all score. I’m not sure that’ll be the case with him at 3C.

by Kolzilla on Feb 13, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, 3C was his to take this year and he failed. I don’t like him there, but if we don’t get another C I don’t know that we have an option.

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 13, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

For an immediate veteran 2c I would want a Reinprecht if the Panthers are doing a fire sale. For future means, I would scout Berglund out tonight and see if we can get him from the Blues.

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 13, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah Berglund is the better option because of upside. Reinprecht has two more years at 2 mill. Not terrible, but still a longer commitment than you usually look for at the deadline. Berglund would probably cost a guy like MP or Mackan, though.

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 13, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I like MP, but I wouldn’t be adverse to trading him for Berglund. Of course this could be construed as size-ist as Berglund is 6’4 215 lbs

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 13, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t construe it as size-ist. It’s just taking the guy that is more proven (and probably has higher upside). I’d do that trade but we probably have to throw in more.

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 13, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I can live with that. Hope Stecks has chemistry with Flash-n-Fehr.

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by EmilyB on Feb 13, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Can’t speak to chemistry with Flash, but 39-16 has worked well before (last year’s game at Buffalo comes to mind).

Damn! Looks like my women is on time.

by Bald Pollack on Feb 13, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

god I would a more skilled center to go between Flash and Fehr

Aim for the head baby Jesus

by Doncosmic on Feb 13, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Laich-Mo-Semin, oh dear, a line ripe for jokes.

I have a C on my heart.

by boutros23 on Feb 13, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Have you SEEN the ovie-laich-semin hat trick jokes on Twitter?

/yes people went there

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by EmilyB on Feb 13, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Captain Morozov and the Russian delegation to the Winter Olympics. The team that NBC cut away from to go to commercial last night.

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by EmilyB on Feb 13, 2010 3:32 PM EST reply actions  

.

Oops!

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by EmilyB on Feb 13, 2010 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

The jackets seem a little too “highschool band uniforms” to me

Aim for the head baby Jesus

by Doncosmic on Feb 13, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

B R U T A L

But Brawndo's got what plants crave. It's got electrolytes.

by hotdog88gt on Feb 13, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

What am I missing?

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 13, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Yikes. Those pants definitely go with the mullet though.

"Where can you go from there? Where? ... Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?"

by Christoph J on Feb 13, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh. Look how the rest of the pack keep their distance from him…

But Brawndo's got what plants crave. It's got electrolytes.

by hotdog88gt on Feb 13, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

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