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Taking a Breather

Over the next four days, the Capitals will take to the road and attempt to match an NHL record set 16 years ago by winning 17 straight games - a daunting task but one which this team is fully equipped to complete.

At the same time, these three games will count down the final days before the season comes to a sudden, screeching halt.

When the NHL breaks for the Olympics next week, it will send some of its best and brightest to Vancouver while scattering the remainder of the League to all parts of the world for a mandatory vacation. For some teams this break is probably something of a blessing - a time to heal wounded bodies, weary minds, a time to refuel and refocus for the final push.

But for a team like the Capitals, a team riding a wave of momentum the likes of which has never been seen by their fans, such a break seems to come at the worst possible time. It's incited hand-wringing from pundits and fans alike, while those outside CapsNation eagerly await the almost certain downfall that will follow - to them, this will clearly be another case of a team peaking too soon.

And yet few have considered the fact that this break could actually be something of a blessing for the hottest team in the League, as well.

For those Caps who will scatter to warmer climes or simply return home to spend time with family over the next two weeks, it's a chance to indulge in some league-mandated rest like everyone else. Stars are stars, but it's the role-players who make the team what it is and our role-players could use some R&R.

Look at our workhorses - how much more productive will someone like Brooks Laich be when he gets a chance to heal from all of the war wounds he is no doubt silently playing through? Look at our defense - a healthy Tom Poti, Brian Pothier or Mike Green is preferable to a version that is literally limping toward spring, isn't it? All of our goaltenders have battled injury, and at least one of them - the eldest of the trio - will get to rest up for what could be the biggest postseason of his career.

As for the lucky few off to play for their country, I'm not worried. The threat of injury exists around every player regardless of where he plays - and while physical play certainly exists at the Olympics, it's rarely at the same level of a full-scale NHL game. The threat of mental exhaustion is a bigger concern and even that seems like a low risk possibility. For example, should Alex Ovechkin help Russia earn the gold medal, it injects even more of the taste for winning into someone already so driven by it; should Russia falter, we get back a captain who is twice as determined as before to capture the highest prize.

It just seems there is no room for mental or physical exhaustion on a team led by one so inexhaustible.

But beyond the talk of potential injury or the much-needed rest for the weary, it's the concern over loss of momentum that has me puzzled. Hockey is unpredictable by nature; it comes in waves, in cycles, teams getting hot at different times and surging through the standings. People talk of momentum and hot streaks and the like with such reverence, as if they control every aspect of the game - but momentum can shift so fast, hot streaks can become ice cold in the blink of an eye. Ultimately what you're left with is the good teams on top where they should be, hot and cold streaks aside.

I point this out because at some point during this amazing run it stopped feeling like the Caps were simply "riding a hot streak" and started to feel like they were simply finding their groove - finding ways to win, the way good teams do. 

Whether they complete the historic feat and coast into the break on a 17-game winning streak or not is irrelevant when talking about the big picture. This team is starting to find their groove, dominating games they should dominate and winning games that maybe they shouldn't win, but rarely to the extremes of either one. They're learning how to play for each other rather than simply alongside each other, a lesson that will take them much further than any win streak can. 

In short they're becoming a good team - a very good team. And that's not something that will be halted just because the season is.

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I agree that they’ve gotten a feel for winning and learned how to put the hammer down in the third period.

They’ve gotten some breaks and bounces in the course of the streak – no streak comes without them.

As for the Olympic effect, I am somewhat comforted by the fact that the other contenders tend to have more of their guys playing in them than the Caps do. I think. But I’d be best pleased if the Caps had none of their players going.

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by fat_daddyo on Feb 10, 2010 2:50 PM EST reply actions  

Amen to that last point.

I bet if you polled NHL fans on what they’re rooting for in the Olympics and gave them three options – “A specific country to win gold,” “Great hockey played by the world’s best for everyone to see,” and “No injuries to my NHL team’s players,” it’d come out overwhelmingly in favor of that last option. That certainly would be my pick.

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by J.P. on Feb 10, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

So if the NHL is ambivalent about releasing players for the Olympics, and it makes the fans and team brass nervous, who’s benefitting? It’s just about players wanting it both ways?

I’m not saying the NHL should pull out of Sochi — Ovi and others have made their position clear already. But if the league is going to forbid professional participation, they should make that decision soon.

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by CapitalCentre on Feb 10, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I would say it’s about the players, absolutely. I don’t think they should back out of Sochi, either, and I love watching players I know compete at such a high level. But eventually the NHL should end this – too much risk, too much of a disruption to the season. I’d rather see my boys competing at full strength for the Cup.

Players talk about dreaming of playing for their country but many of them eventually do anyway – and I doubt most of them grew up thinking they could both play in the NHL and play for a gold medal. Those who did both in the past went pro after the Olympics, not vice versa. Remember when the Olympics used to be an “amateur” competition?

by Becca H on Feb 10, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

So how do you change it? Do you go back to the amateur days? Do you let the SEL and KHL players participate? If you go amateur, how do you handle the CHL? To me, that’s the biggest question when contemplating a change. Those guys get treated as amateurs in most situations, but certainly are not amateurs by the definition of the word.

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by Rob Parker on Feb 10, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s a good question, and I’m not really sure – partly for the reasons that you mentioned, and partly because despite my point that it’s an amateur competition, very few of these athletes are actually “amateurs” anymore, in any sport. Endorsements, sponsorships…it’s changed.

I guess there’s always a solution that some have floated, which is to allow the NHL to participate (because as you say, if the KHL, SEL, etc are in there the NHL should be) – but have it in the summer. I think the idea of having hockey in the Summer Olympics seems ridiculous on the surface, but you never know – could work.

by Becca H on Feb 10, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Bettman mentioned in an interview that he actually asked the IOC about moving hockey to the Summer Olympics—they basically said that hockey was the lifeblood of the Winter Olympics and laughed in his face (at least the way he told it).

by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 10, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Did he? Interesting. And I’m guessing they laughed over his face, no? :P

It really could go both ways – in a year like this, in Canada, you can see how hockey would be the so-called lifeblood of the Winter Olympics. In countries where hockey takes a backseat to skiing, figure skating, bobsled, etc.? Maybe not.

Of course, it all comes down to me not being able to wrap my mind around a game played on ice taking place in August. It just sounds silly. But if it allows the players to continue participating while not disrupting the NHL season, I could open my mind a bit.

by Becca H on Feb 10, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Olympic hockey in summer time is my own personal proposal. Yes, it sounds ridiculous on the surface but that’s the only way to do it and not interfere with the Stanley Cup.

I do say, the NHL season needs to start earlier in the year (as it did this year) .

I’d leave hockey in the same year as the rest of the winter games, even if it’s played in June

Back when amateurs represented the US, the Russian team members were de facto professionals. (We could probably say the same about many of the Eastern European teams, at that time, as well.)

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by CapsFan75 on Feb 10, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Or maybe to have Winter Olympics only in Southern Hemisphere?…

by fnralch on Feb 10, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that would be horrible for everyone, but especially the European players. The guys in the USA and Canada like to play for their country but I think they consider the NHL the most important. I think the European players for the most part care more about the world events while growing up. I don’t know if anyone else gets that impression…it’s sort of just what I’ve thought while reading interviews over the years.

Here’s another vote for hoping all our guys stay healthy on their hunt for gold.

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by zephyr on Feb 10, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I was just going back and forth w/ Chesnokov about this on Twitter – to a certain extent it’s true, the European players didn’t grow up with the Cup being their holy grail, it was all about the Olympics and other international competition.

That being said…they didn’t have any players to look up to in the NHL until the last 20-30 years. This generation of Russian players (and other European players) has grown up with a mix of heroes, including many who have played in the NHL. Think about the reverence with which Ovie talks about winning the Cup, for example, or the hero worship they have for guys like Fedorov – someone who defected to the US to play for it.

I think the next wave of Russian/European players will hold the two on almost the same level, especially as more and more Russians win the Cup. Country will always be huge for them – but it’s hard to deny that kids seeing Fedorov, Malkin, Gonchar, Kovalev, Kozlov (and hopefully Ovie and Varly someday) win the Cup will have a huge impact.

by Becca H on Feb 10, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That’s a great point. This current young generation and the following could feel much different.

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by zephyr on Feb 10, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

the Cup will have a huge impact.

Not so sure yet. For years to come the Russian coaches will be teaching kids on examples from the Russian Soviet glory days of the 70s and 80s when Stanley Cup was of zero importance. Add to this the growing national awakening (or better to say, nationalism) that puts anything done for your country at the first place. Unlike defectors of the late 80s and early 90s, the today Russian players maintain as close links with Russia as possible. They are apparently ready to play for their country at Olympics even potentially accepting any penalties from NHL (that in principle may prevent them from competing for the Cup in 2014). All this results in a simple message that is well heard in the Russian hockey: “Olympics is #1.” And the kids over there hear that message very well.

by fnralch on Feb 10, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

its pretty simple to me. olympics have and will be played on russian soil at some point in the future. the stanley cup won’t

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by souldrummer on Feb 10, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Look at how many guys are trying to get out of Russia to play. Malkin disappeared for two weeks so he could leave. Filatov was clear from day 1 that he wanted to leave. AO never contemplated not playing in the NHL.

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by Rob Parker on Feb 10, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

How many? My feeling was that now there’re much fewer Russians in NHL than say 10 years ago. A simple search at NLH.com give 67 in 99-00 vs. 29 Russians today.

by fnralch on Feb 10, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Right but the guys the NHL is losing are lower line guys, not high level talent. There are only a few players that are in the KHL that would be impact players in the NHL, and even fewer that aren’t aging veterans. The KHL can pay NHL third liners like stars so it draws the less talented players.

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by Rob Parker on Feb 10, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not sure that what you’re saying confirms your point of many guys trying to get out of Russia. In any case, a drop of 57% surely point to a statistically important trend.

by fnralch on Feb 11, 2010 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Small clarification – the NHL isn’t “in” on Sochi yet, so they don’t have to pull out.

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by J.P. on Feb 10, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

True. I guess I’ll be annoyed if the league forbids players from going to Sochi, because players have already started planning on it out loud, and annoyed if the league dithers about 2018 in the meantime.

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by CapitalCentre on Feb 10, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

The league won’t forbid it. The best they can hope is to get concessions from the players in return.

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by Ninjak on Feb 10, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

It is about the players, and they might pull out after Sochi, but I doubt they would pullout before then. The Canadians are having the Olympics on their turf, why can’t the Russians do the same for their country? It’s timing more than anything.

The other problem is that pulling out of the Olympics would give an advantage to the euro leagues and KHL. The NHL is great because of our European and Russian players mixing with the North Americans. But if a player, especially the high 3rd low second line players can make more money not in the NHL, and they can play of their country every 4 years, it makes the leagues more attractive and the NHL less so.

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by Bman21212 on Feb 10, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Where’s the “No specific country to win gold as long as it’s not Canada” option?

by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 10, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

i dig this. may the curse of mike green reign

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by souldrummer on Feb 10, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd still like to see a tourney with all the players

So what, if not the Olympics? World Cup of Hockey, like soccer?

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by red army line on Feb 10, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

They’re doing a World Cup in 2011 as it is. My guess is that if the NHL does indeed not extend Olympic participation, the World Cup will become a more regular occurrence.

by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 10, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Saw an opinion somewhere that I agree with…

for now, the World Cup gold is still pretty unimportant compared to the Stanley Cup, the Olympic gold, hell, maybe even the Calder Cup. In soccer at least every player knows the World Cup > Olympics, but for now, in hockey, it’s the other way around. Might be best to wait until it’s closer.

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by red army line on Feb 10, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

The thing is, the (hockey) World Cup is seen as so insignificant because (at least in my opinion) it’s so irregular in occurrence and so clearly overshadowed by the Olympics.

If the World Cup were the only international best-on-best tournament AND occurred at regular intervals, I don’t find it difficult to believe that it would become the most prestigious tournament (after the Stanley Cup).

It also should be noted that the Olympic men’s soccer tournament is NOT a best-on-best tournament.

by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 10, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

The World Cup is more overshadowed by the Stanley Cup playoffs than the Olympics.

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by Rob Parker on Feb 10, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, of course. But the Olympics are also overshadowed by the Stanley Cup, at least for North Americans. In the sense of international tournaments, the World Cup is absolutely overshadowed by the Olympics in the present configuration.

by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 10, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t discount the World Cup. You can discount it, but the players don’t, and the management of the various country teams don’t. It’s a big reason Doughty made Team Canada. It’s also one of the three competitions that make up the Triple Gold.

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 10, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

“No injuries to my NHL team’s players” is hands down my vote.

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by IRockTheRed on Feb 11, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Becca!!

What is the deal? Am again amazed at how you can pluck partially realized notions and general gut feels directly out of my brain and turn them slam bang into just the words I would write if I could write. Yet again I agree with every thought expressed here. Bottom line = Streak schmeak. We are reaching higher.

by Uncle C on Feb 10, 2010 3:22 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

The streak is useful to me for one main reason – the sooner we lock up the #1 seed in the East, the happier I will be.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Amen.

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by winterion on Feb 10, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Didn’t I tell you? I’m psychic…thought everyone knew that, yeesh ;)

But yes, this is exactly what I’m saying. I think the streak is just a pleasant result of what is a larger trend, which is the fact that this team is playing good hockey mixed with moments of good luck that seem to follow the best teams.

by Becca H on Feb 10, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Rest for Players...What about Bloggers?

and those of us who mash keyboards in response to said bloggers? i fear for this blog in about 10 days…no doubt there will be lots of olympic hockey talk, but i also fear this space will be taken over by trade deadline talk and sports radio trade proposals:

how bout we trade fehr for chara, bourque and a 5th for datsyuk (sp) and throw in osala for getzlaf straight up? c’mon GMGM make it happen!!

kidding of course. hope jp, becca, et al get some well deserved RnR too…

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Feb 10, 2010 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

It seems so simple...

For the Olympics to kick back some profits to the NHL to shut up the owners. Everyone is happy, no? If the NHL keeps players out of the games aren’t the Olympics going to be out a bunch of money? Why are they hoarding it all?

by Bushwood Bushwhacker on Feb 10, 2010 3:37 PM EST reply actions  

So you want the Olympics to pay the National Hockey League to allow its players to appear in its games? Yeah, not happening.

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by J.P. on Feb 10, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

once they do that the Dream Team in Bball will go Beeeelistic

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by souldrummer on Feb 10, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

As will every single other sporting federation and national Olympic committee.

by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 10, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I suppose I set myself up for a snarky comment with a seemingly naive point of view on the matter, but I fully understand the likelihood of the NHL seeing a dime from the IOC.

But when the situation is looked at logically, it makes sense. No?

by Bushwood Bushwhacker on Feb 10, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I see you’ve really thought it through. Apparently logic isn’t in apart of your lexicon. Sit? Roll over?

by Bushwood Bushwhacker on Feb 10, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Read my comment above. Even if the IOC were willing to put aside everything the Olympics stand for, they couldn’t.

by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 10, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

My post was meant to incite an objective look at the situation sans history, morals, whatever the IOC “stands for”… The way it exists right now just doesn’t make sense from an economics point of view. It’s not a pareto efficient situation …

by Bushwood Bushwhacker on Feb 10, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Alright, let’s do this.

First of all, I’m HIGHLY skeptical that having NHL players in the Olympics, especially in an Olympics held outside of North America, increases the IOC’s bottom line so much compared to a tournament of amateurs/non-NHLers (which would be appealing in its own way) that they would be willing to fork over any significant amount of cash, let alone an amount that you could split amongst all 30 owners that would make each one of them say “I’m satisfied”.

Second, it would open an enormous can of worms. There’s no way the IOC could justify paying the NHL to keep their players in the games and not other sporting leagues.

Also, where does the IIHF fit into your proposed scheme?

Frankly, I dispute that “[t]he way it exists right now just doesn’t make sense from an economics point of view.” The IOC gets an exciting tournament that drives the winter games and the NHL gets exposure. The injury risks are present, yes, but they’re also present over an 82 game regular season that could easily be shortened and you don’t hear owners clamoring for that because it would mean fewer tickets to sell.

by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 10, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

First of all, I’m HIGHLY skeptical that having NHL players in the Olympics, especially in an Olympics held outside of North America, increases the IOC’s bottom line so much compared to a tournament of amateurs/non-NHLers

We definitely disagree on this point, and it’s enough to make a unbridgeable rift in our perspectives on the issue. It’d be very interesting to see the viewership numbers on a non NHL hockey tournament opposed to the current setup.

The only thing I know for sure is that the NHL is seeing no benefit to shipping its star away for three weeks in the heart of the season.

by Bushwood Bushwhacker on Feb 10, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

The viewership numbers on an NHL hockey tournament that’s held outside of North America are abysmal anyway. A tournament with non NHL players couldn’t possibly be that much worse. And the NHL is absolutely seeing a benefit to participating in this tournament.

by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 10, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

And the NHL is absolutely seeing a benefit to participating in this tournament.

No, they’re not. Teddy talked about it in his blog. Or some other owner, maybe in an interview? Basically, this is the IOC’s line of reasoning, and it’s been empirically shown not to have an effect.

The viewership numbers on an NHL hockey tournament that’s held outside of North America are abysmal anyway.

You’re saying that when the Olympics are in Sochi the North American viewers won’t tune in ? Because of the time zone issue? I guess that’s true to an extent, but there are still going to be more viewers with NHLers than without. It would be hard to argue otherwise, no matter how small the number may be.

The bottom line is that the IOC monetarily benefits from NHLers playing in the Olympics, while the owners have zero incentive to let them play.

by Bushwood Bushwhacker on Feb 10, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Ted stated, in no uncertain terms, that there WERE benefits to the NHL—just that there were also risks (also, even putting that aside, public statements of owners can’t be considered beyond dispute on this issue). You can’t possibly be claiming that the NHL has NO incentive to participate in the NHL. Can you claim that the disincentives outweigh the incentives? Of course. But that’s a totally different statement.

Also, of course there will be more viewers with NHLers than without. But if a hundred thousand people watch for NHLers, and only fifty thousand people watch for non-NHLers (the numbers are made up but the specific numbers obviously aren’t important to this principle), why would that difference possibly be significant enough for the IOC to pay enough money to satisfy dozens of millionaires (even putting aside the issue of what the IOC’s actual purpose is, which you seem to want to hypothetically ignore for some unexplained reason).

by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 10, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I am choose to ignore whatever the IOC stands for because I don’t really care, and I’m more interested in the economics of the situation than the politics.

Can you claim that the disincentives outweigh the incentives? Of course.

This is exactly what I claim. I was too strong when I said zero incentive. How can we expect the owners not to be a bit upset about the whole situation when they are clearly on the losing end, being held hostage by the Olympics?

And, wow….it’s not about satisfying millionaires… it’s about the economic state of the league, which as we all know (maybe?!) is, has been, and will likely continue to be tenuous.

by Bushwood Bushwhacker on Feb 10, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahahahahaha. Being held hostage? That’s absurd.

I’m no longer interested in having a debate that a) you agree is purely hypothetical and has no relevance whatsoever to the current situation and b) you continuously move the goal posts for or ignore points which contradict your dogmatic view of what’s good and bad for the league..

by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 10, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

The owners are being “held hostage” because they are portrayed to be the bad guys when all they are doing is being businessmen, looking out for the league’s best interest. This is something that is personally important to me, as I believe the potential of the NHL brand is no where near it’s full potential.

Move goalposts? Ignore points? I have pointed out where we have disagreed from the start, and stated we would likely not reconcile on that point.


First of all, I’m HIGHLY skeptical that having NHL players in the Olympics, especially in an Olympics held outside of North America, increases the IOC’s bottom line so much compared to a tournament of amateurs/non-NHLers

We definitely disagree on this point, and it’s enough to make a unbridgeable rift in our perspectives on the issue.

I’m sorry you had to degrade this conversation with immaturity. If you don’t agree that discussions in economics have no place in a thread about whether the NHL should let its players play in the Olympics… then perhaps your view on the situation is a bit naive.

by Bushwood Bushwhacker on Feb 10, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

This conversation degraded into immaturity when you said “I see you’ve really thought it through. Apparently logic isn’t in apart of your lexicon. Sit? Roll over?”. Please.

Rational discussions about economics absolutely have a place in a thread about whether the NHL should let its players play in the Olympics when considered along with other factors, just as the IOC would never say “hey, this makes economic sense, let’s do it” without considering other factors (and that’s if you assume that paying the NHL makes economic sense, which it absolutely doesn’t).

by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 10, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

except for the 2 medal games, the ratings for Olympic hockey generally aren’t all that high, especially if the games are held outside North America. It costs the host country a ton to put on the games, and other profits are spread to various countries Olympic federations, there is just not that much money that could go to the NHL when hockey is such a small part of the overall viewership of the games.

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by Doncosmic on Feb 10, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

NHL players’ images will be heavily marketed, and lots of money will be made off of them. It’s not unreasonable to ask for some of that profit to pay for their insurance.

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by Ninjak on Feb 10, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

is the solution to bribe the players out? Baseball has opted out of the olympics for the growing World Baseball Classic. Work with the players for a regular international event before or after the seasons on a 4 year cycle that’s in between Olympic years. And make sure you hold it in Russia first. Given the timing, it would probably be best to do something like this after Sochi. Maybe make the Olympics kind of juniors tournament or something. I don’t know. But a long term injury to ovechkin, backstrom, flash, semin, or neuvirth seems like one of the few things that could derails the caps besides a smoking hot goaltender

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by souldrummer on Feb 10, 2010 4:03 PM EST reply actions  

Baseball? What’s that? :)

by bugula on Feb 10, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

MLB didn’t opt out. The IOC kicked them out because MLB won’t release major leagues for the Olympics. The WBC is MLB’s attempt at a World Cup-like tournament. If the NHL and other international leagues did something similar, it might work. You right, no one really cares about Olympic soccer, it’s all about the World Cup.

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by apk3000 on Feb 10, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

If your team peaks early...

doesn’t it depend on when they peak? In other words, isn’t it better they peak in February rather then in October or in March? October making it too far in the past for them to remember how to get back to that, and March being the start of a slump in April? This might be the best case scenario for us…

~~~ R0cK D@ R3D ~~~

by Chaz-Capapalooza on Feb 10, 2010 4:07 PM EST reply actions  

No one really knows where the peak is until it has been passed. That being said hopefully the Olympics will in fact get everyone rested and healthy, not just physically but mentally and emotionally refreshed too (as long as they don’t forget the drive to win!).

Ovechkin = Green Backs

by red army line on Feb 10, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

forgetting the drive to win should be the least of our problems… our captain will NEVER let the team forget what they are trying to do, you can count on that. If they lose in the playoffs this year it will be because the other team was better, not because they didn’t play their best.

~~~ R0cK D@ R3D ~~~

by Chaz-Capapalooza on Feb 10, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I totally agree that when a team “peaks” or “gets hot” or whatever you may call it has an impact – a lot of people like to point out that the Pens team that went on the 17-game streak in ‘93 did not ultimately end up with a Cup. What they ignore is that their streak took place later in the season, closer to the playoffs. The Isles did get a Cup after going on a 15-game streak around the same point of the season as the Caps’ streak.

Not saying that this streak = the Cup because as I said in the post, I don’t buy the whole notion of momentum and the like (at least for this team). But unlike the ’93 Pens and other teams you could say “peaked early”, should the Caps falter they have time to correct things before the playoffs get under way.

by Becca H on Feb 10, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

A little breather

This is the second time in the last few months someone has used that phrase in a title. I don’t remember who/what the last was specifically about, but it reminded me both times on who the Caps should hire for this position.

I just wasn’t sure how many would get the reference.

by Icebat on Feb 10, 2010 4:12 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

You underestimate the room.

Damn! Looks like my women is on time.

by Bald Pollack on Feb 10, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Our skill guys are the best in the league. If a season’s worth of minor injuries reduce everyone’s average skill level by about 20%, then that just brings us closer to everyone else.

I’m all for a break.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Feb 10, 2010 5:04 PM EST reply actions  

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