Wednesday Caps Clips: Sabres @ Caps Game Day
by J.P. on Nov 17, 2010 6:43 AM EST
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Your savory breakfast links:
- Previews of tonight's game against Buffalo (which, by the way, will air on CSN-plus locally) from Vogs, NHL.com (Rosen), Peerless and RtR, and be sure to check out our SB Nation partner Die By The Blade for more coverage from the other side of tonight's match up.
- Notes and assorted whatnot from yesterday's practice. [Vogs, CI, DCEx, Caps365 (video), Caps In Pictures (pics), bridgetds (pics), dfndr13 (pics)]
- The Caps appear to be well-stocked in goal, but... [CSN Washington (Masisak)]
- "George McPhee, asked what would happen if another GM called about Semyon Varlamov, Michal Neuvirth or Braden Holtby? 'We're not trading any of them.'" Since he can't impact demand, it's good to see GMGM reducing supply in an attempt to drive up the price for some of his most valuable assets. [CBC (Friedman)]
- Speaking of McPhee, he's not thrilled with the team's performance so far and (unrelated) says Varly could be in Hershey for weeks (bet the under). [NHL.com (Rosen)]
- Is goaltending overrated anyway? [The National]
- John Carlson and Karl Alzner are coming along nicely. [WaPo (Carrera)]
- On RCCJC's Calder credentials. [Peerless]
- More coverage of Alex Ovechkin's DVD and the accompanying media blitz. [D.C. Sports Bog, CI (video), PHT, Alex Ovetjkin, Capitals (video, photo gallery), Sporting News, ESPN (AO chat), DVD Talk, RMNB]
- Let me tee this one up for you, Damien: "As Alex Ovechkin shamelessly celebrated himself and his ego trip of a DVD on Monday night, some of his less-selfish teammates fed the homeless. What a leader." You're welcome. [Capitals]
- Jason Chimera is no stranger to outdoor games. [NHL.com (Morreale)]
- On Alexander Semin being left off the All-Star ballot. [Mike Holden's blog]
- Wondering when you can catch the preview of HBO's 24/7 "Road to the NHL Winter Classic"? Wonder no more. [Penguins]
- AO is off to a strong start in Campbellnomics, for what it's worth. [THN]
- Saving Josh Godfrey. [D.C. Sports Bog]
- Three for Three, games 16-18. [RtR]
- Now that you've publicly been praised for it, how about ixnay on the ushRay going forward, D.J. Stretch? [OFB]
- Previewing (Cody Eakin-captained) Team WHL ahead of the Subway Super Series. [HF]
- Al Iafrate's kid is a Caps fan. And Al Iafrate's kid. [MLive]
- Speaking of offspring, coach Bob Woods' son is heading to the University of Wisconsin. [UWBadgers]
- Finally, happy 55th birthday to Dennis Maruk and happy 61st to Gord Smith.
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Let me tee this one up for you, Damien
Come on, don’t write the tweets for this guy.
"DON'T SAY THAT! Please! That is the worst, most stupid thing anyone could say! Cause it quite clearly isn't "only a game." I mean if it was do you honestly think I'd care this much?"
BTW Anyone know when we can start seeing results of the ASG voting? Last game, they let the fans see the results as the voting was still going on.
I’m just curious as to whether or not Semin gets enough write ins.
Spoiler alert: He didn’t/won’t.
The fan voting will, if I’m not mistaken, only place six players into the All-Star “pool,” and there’s a 0% chance that more people will write in Semin than will vote for the third-highest vote-getting forward who’s actually on the ballot.
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Here’s another newsflash — don’t assume even Ovechkin makes top three forwards.
"It's always good to have vikings."
Agreed. I was going to add, “The one to watch for is AO,” but didn’t want to cause a panic.
I still think he makes it. Him, Sid and Fleischmann (write-in).
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by J.P. on Nov 17, 2010 8:06 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Dammit, JP, now I have to clean my monitor because of the spit-take…
Washington Capitals 2009-10 = Quebec Nordiques 1994-95
--- D'ohboy
by MikeL-Pivonka on Nov 17, 2010 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
Caption contest!
(Pic courtesy bridgetds)
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caption:
Johansson: People who don’t like Rush are jerks.
Backstrom: I agree.
Many a night from yonder ivied casement, ere I went to rest,
Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.
by sydtron on Nov 17, 2010 8:06 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ha. I used to like Rush. In fact, they were my favorite band.
Then my dad got a job.
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by J.P. on Nov 17, 2010 8:07 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
As long as he didn’t sell your drums and make you go live over with the Weirs.
Although that Gene Krupa could really bang!
"This guy is an android. He's not human....Oh my goodness."
by Sam DC on Nov 17, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Best show ever cancelled.
You had me at no problem.
by Ninjak on Nov 17, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
“I’ve got a bigger kit than Neal Peart!”
The bastards hung me in the spring of '25. But I am still alive.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 17, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
“Neal Peart couldn’t drum his way out of a paper bag!”
"DON'T SAY THAT! Please! That is the worst, most stupid thing anyone could say! Cause it quite clearly isn't "only a game." I mean if it was do you honestly think I'd care this much?"
by Bald Pollack on Nov 17, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
Way OT, but the Dungeons and Dragons thing was hysterical. Craigamore the Destroyer, Logan the Huge, Gorthon the Thief and Carlos the Dwarf.
Also props to Bill falling in love with Dallas. Goddamn it I need to buy that show.
The bastards hung me in the spring of '25. But I am still alive.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 17, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
I loved everything with Cindy Sanders, especially when Sam realizes she’s shallow and not right for him.
I still mourn that show.
Ummm, because it was totally about hockey.
You had me at no problem.
Yeah, sorry for enabling that. OT-age.
"DON'T SAY THAT! Please! That is the worst, most stupid thing anyone could say! Cause it quite clearly isn't "only a game." I mean if it was do you honestly think I'd care this much?"
by Bald Pollack on Nov 17, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
My take on Stretch as a DJ:
One likes to believe in the freedom of music, but glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity.
Still, when you hear what he’s spinning, it’s easy to put aside the alienation and get on with the fascination, the real relation, the underlying theme.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 17, 2010 12:00 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I think he’s proven that he’s not cast in an unlikely role or ill-equipped to act. I do think that with insufficient tact, he must put up barriers to keep himself intact.
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on Nov 17, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think you’re looking too much into this.
He’s just a modern day warrior with a mean, mean stride. Almost like today’s Tom Sawyer with a mean, mean pride.
Soon the Championship with be ours, all ours!
by kingzman264 on Nov 17, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Backstrom: …and then, after applying a sufficient quantity of shaving cream, you drag the razor across your face in the same direction as the grain of the hair, making sure to apply pressure lightly but firmly.
Johansson: Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh…
Like Nick has ever shaved…
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by J.P. on Nov 17, 2010 8:24 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
In about two seconds, Nicklas Backstrom will have a rude realization that Marcus Johansson had the spicy meatballs for dinner last night. Let’s watch…
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Nov 17, 2010 8:28 AM EST up reply actions 8 recs
Backstrom: What’s up with the sun being in the sky for more than three hours a day?
MJ90: Yeah, what’s that all about?
by Kolzilla on Nov 17, 2010 8:48 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
“Don’t get too fond of wearing that red practice sweater. Punk.”
“What. Ever! ’Scuse me old man, my LW needs me.”
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by EmilyB on Nov 17, 2010 9:11 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Marcus, you can keep the ‘stache for Movember, but the neck beard contest doesn’t start until April.
but the neck beard contest doesn’t start until
AprilKentucky.
by DrinkingPartner on Nov 17, 2010 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
Are you telling me neck beards aren’t numerous there?!
by DrinkingPartner on Nov 17, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Marcus- Uhhhhhh Nick, this isn’t Ikea….
Backs- But do you like my Allen Key?
I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone.
by Rather Bengt on Nov 17, 2010 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
Lars: That is NOT where you put the Thunderhoney
MJ90: Ohhhhhhh
He's a better skater than Nick, but he's big in the back[side]...BB
by Backeez Got Back on Nov 17, 2010 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
Johansson: Really, they used to have you do Swedish lesson things between periods?
Backstrom: Yeah, that’s why you hear people screaming “Flygplats” from the crowd.
Johansson: I was wondering about that….
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--- D'ohboy
by MikeL-Pivonka on Nov 17, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
Backs: You see that girl over there? She’s stalking me. I caught her outside my door this morning and invited her in.
MoJo: Uh, that’s my girlfriend.
Backstrom: “‘Walk Like a Man’ on three. 1, 2, 3…”
Mackan: “OOOOO-WEEEEE-EEEE-EEEE-EEEEE-EEE-EEE-OHHHHHH”
Patron saint of quality footwear.
by fat_daddyo on Nov 17, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
MJ90: “So you had them believing ‘flygplats’ meant ‘airport’?”
NB19: “Yeah, they had people on video saying it.”
MJ90: "And no one caught on that it really means “i pooped my pants?’”
NB19: “Nope…not one.”
MJ90: "Ahh..strange town, this “dee-cee.’”
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Nov 17, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
Heh. Not exactly:
Washington Capitals star Alex Ovechkin knows whom he’d select first if he had a hand in filling out a roster for this season’s NHL all-star game: teammate and fellow Russian Alexander Semin.
"I’d take Semin, of course," Ovechkin told 106.7 The Fan radio station in Washington. "First pick! Where would I be without him?"
The Japers’ Rink blog transcribed Ovechkin’s interview with hosts LaVar Arrington and Chad Dukes, during which Ovechkin said he wasn’t clear on the NHL’s new format for the all-star game.
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Admirable attempt at correct attribution, but….not really.
Points for trying, points subsequently docked for failure.
by Chris Burton on Nov 17, 2010 8:38 AM EST up reply actions
Did they also credit you for #redskinsreparations?
"DON'T SAY THAT! Please! That is the worst, most stupid thing anyone could say! Cause it quite clearly isn't "only a game." I mean if it was do you honestly think I'd care this much?"
by Bald Pollack on Nov 17, 2010 8:50 AM EST up reply actions
I’m impressed they put the apostrophe in the right place.
John Carlson - Glory follows him.
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I’m amazed they didn’t call us “Puck Daddy.”
by DrinkingPartner on Nov 17, 2010 9:04 AM EST up reply actions
Calder?
A while back, Tyler Dellow published an article on who his Vezina candidates would be if he were an NHL GM. Since the site is a little bit DoSed at the moment, I can’t find the exact thing, so we’re going to work of my somewhat dodgy memory.
As a result of that article, I don’t want even a Calder nomination for either Carlson or Neuvirth. This is purely selfish and much less a concern if the deadline comes and goes without a large salary acquisition, but here’s the reasoning:
ELC contracts are largely variable in how much they pay a player; there are all kinds of bonuses for hitting specific performance targets — games played, points, wins, et cetera. There are also bonuses in many of them for even getting nominated for a major award. Thus, as a responsible NHL GM, shouldn’t you be nominating ELC goalies on teams that are in, or will reach, the bonus cushion to push their cap-space down for the next season? Since there are only 30 GMs voting on the award, a 1st place vote for, say, Jonas Gustavsson from last season could have gone a long way towards pushing the Leafs further into the bonus and consequently, reduced leverage for FAs in the upcoming signing period.
But it’s even better if the team is a direct rival. Is there any doubt that if Shero, Holmgren, or Yzerman thought of this, it would be in their best interests to vote for Neuvirth for the Vezina and tell the media that you’ve been very impressed with the play of John Carlson? Moot point if the Caps don’t make an acquisition at the deadline that brings them to bonus territory, but what if they do? Is there any reason that George McPhee shouldn’t be voting Sergei Bobrovsky 1st on his Vezina ballot to put the screws to the Flyers, even more than they’ve already done to themselves?
"Essentially, all models are wrong, but some are useful" George E.P. Box
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 17, 2010 9:03 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
From looking at Capgeek, neither Carlson nor Neuvirth have potential performance bonuses in their contract. Any awards they win will not result in any change in Washington’s cap situation.
The only player on the roster who has significant performance bonuses in his salary at the moment is Karl Alzner, who has 850k worth of performance bonuses in his contract. Braden Holtby has 85k of performance bonuses, though I doubt he’ll make them.
To KH’s point, though, Bobrovsky does have $850k in bonuses available to him.
That said, I’d much rather his numbers end up Mike Ricci ugly than that he be in the Vezina conversation.
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But that’s the beautiful thing about it; Bobrovsky could have numbers that look like Ricci mating with a bat and McPhee could still vote for him. If, say, Shero got the same idea, there’d be 10 Vezina points against the Flyers right there. It doesn’t take all that many to make the top-5.
"Essentially, all models are wrong, but some are useful" George E.P. Box
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 17, 2010 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
The theory is sound, of course, but neglects the reality of the old boys club that is the NHL.
And, after all, these are guys you have to deal with professionally. What if Philly wanted Steve Eminger a couple of years back but decided, “Know what? Eff McPhee – he plays dirty pool.”? No John Carlson for us…
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I guess a critical part of the question is whether the ballots are accessible to the other GMs. If the process is transparent, the strategy is a lot less appealing. If it’s secret, then it’s far more viable.
I’m not sure how this is dirtier pool than Doug Wilson played this summer with the Hjalmersson offer sheet. Honest question, do you think that impacts his ability to get deals done in the near future?
"Essentially, all models are wrong, but some are useful" George E.P. Box
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 17, 2010 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
the Hjalmersson offer sheet.
By the way, if the Hjalmarsson offer sheet was meant to free up Niemi for the Sharks, then that deal has just been awesome for both sides.
I think it was, in a way, but it was also to fill the Sharks’ need for another defenseman (which is yet undealt with). Win-win for San Jose.
by Chris Burton on Nov 17, 2010 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
I remain impressed with that tactic by GMDW. Loses on Hjammer, gets Niemi (which is probably a mistake, but still), and if Chicago doesn’t match, he gets a good, young defenseman.
To answer the question, though, I would say probably not.
by Chris Burton on Nov 17, 2010 9:36 AM EST up reply actions
I agree CB. I think Wilson is one of the best GMs in the league. Savvy cat there. I was actually thinking this the other day after I saw him interviewed on HNIC’s Afterhours: have the Caps ever done a transaction with San Jose? I couldn’t remember one.
I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone.
by Rather Bengt on Nov 17, 2010 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
At the 2007 Draft, the Caps traded the 2007 first they had gotten from BUF in the Zubrus deal (#28 – Petrecki) to SJS for a 2007 second (#41 – traded to PHI for the picks that became DeSimone and Kugryshev) and a 2008 second (#57 – Mestery).
FWIW, I’d rather Petrecki than the other three combined.
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Thanks J.P.-good recall. I was never aware Kugryshev was attained as part of a picks swap.
I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone.
by Rather Bengt on Nov 17, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
I haven’t really heard anything about Petrecki since the draft, but from what I heard then he just seemed like a shorter Joe Finley. Physical D with the hockey sense of a bag of hammers.
But I’m guessing your last comment had more to do with your feelings on the 3 Caps prospects than it did with Petrecki.
Release the Mackan!
by Killer_Carlson on Nov 17, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
Small NHL sample size but TOR was playing Keith Aulie as a 6th D-man last night and he looked impressive. He was a throw-in in the Phaneuf trade with CGY last year, and Brian Burke has been stoked about the kid ever since (…well as stoked as GMBB can get). Good size (6’5 210) and good ice awareness. I wouldn’t be surprised if he is a steady low-key defense first D-man for years to come.
I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone.
by Rather Bengt on Nov 17, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
I’d rather have Petrecki as well, though he has sort of stalled in his progress. I get the sense that he both hits and thinks like a hammer.
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And to finish the thought, if GMGM had used those picks better (specifically Mestery) then that deal could have looked a lot better for us. (On the contrary, if SJS picked better than Petrecki it could look a lot worse for us.)
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
It certainly does with respect to Chicago, I think.
These guys hold grudges. I recall GMGM at last year’s CapsCon fairly transparently blasting the ‘Hawks (likely, but not necessarily, Tallon) over the Nylander deal that wasn’t.
As for whether the ballot is secret or not, my guess is that it is as secret as anything is, but if a few guys aren’t taking it seriously/honestly, it’s probably not too hard to guess who those guys might be.
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But Holmgren thought he was winning that deal. He thought he was getting Steve Eminger, Top 15 Pick. Not Steve Eminger, NHL Journeyman.
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And if that’s what he thought he’s an idiot.
Release the Mackan!
by Killer_Carlson on Nov 17, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
Emmy did look like top-15 pick the last time Holmgren got a good look (2008 playoffs), IIRC…
by red army line on Nov 18, 2010 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
I remember the article. It was an amazingly Machiavellian.
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I laughed out loud several times while I was reading it. Diabolical is the word that springs to mind.
"Essentially, all models are wrong, but some are useful" George E.P. Box
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 17, 2010 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
Funny that Machiavelli’s entire reputation is based off one short work that was essentially satirical.
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by Rob Parker on Nov 17, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
That time period, in that region, is probably the single most interesting ever to happen, from so many different perspectives.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
I’ll take Sarah Palin’s Alaska!
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Please do.
I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone.
by Rather Bengt on Nov 17, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
I learned that from cracked.com
If wishes were horses, we'd all be eating steak.
by Hang a Laingtern on Your Problems on Nov 17, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
Based on reading the numbers at CapGeek, Caps don’t have any bonus issues. The only rookies whose contracts have performance bonuses are Alzner and Holtby, and they’re accounted for and there’s still a ton of cap space.
Do we know what the performance bonuses even are? I assume for those two it’s mostly pegged to number of games played. I wonder how many Holtby has to get to trigger the bonus. Bet no one thought he’d have a chance at it this year.
"It's always good to have vikings."
You can look at the CBA to see the what the allowable bonuses (Exhibit 5 I think) are, but I don’t think anyone knows what the exact targets/numbers are for a particular contract.
The Calder is a Schedule B bonus, which I think is paid by the league if it’s not in the contract. I’m not sure if the league counts that against the cap or not.
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I remember during Ovechkin’s rookie year Tarik had a story about his bonuses. That’s the only time I can remember any being published, but it implies they can be found somewhere (is there a place where contracts are accessible?). Either that, or because they were so attainable for him, he was willing to disclose them.
"It's always good to have vikings."
Don Fishman talked about bonuses a bit when he was on JRR, if I recall correctly.
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Ovi’s bonuses were probably easy. All of the Schedule B bonuses are spelled out in the CBA and every ELC contract is eligible for them so those are easy. The maximum he could earn from Schedule A bonuses was 850K and you could probably assume he had all of them written into the contract anyway.
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The way he’s been treated by the MSM has been an absolute disgrace.
The bastards hung me in the spring of '25. But I am still alive.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 17, 2010 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
You mean “Friends of Colie.” It’s amazing how you can literally tell where someone is coming down on the matter just by scanning the article to see how familiarly they refer to Campbell.
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I was just telling Barry and Michelle the same thing the other day.
If you've read this far...seek help.
Ha. I’ll have to relate that story to Ted and Alex next time I’m hanging out with them.
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Some of us just hope Mike and Stretch and John and Frank read our emails
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 17, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
I’ll just be sitting at the end of the bar with Laichitor.
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by Rob Parker on Nov 17, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That is some real cut throat shit right there, Knee. I personally don’t think that salary cap concerns should have anything to do with the Calder, but I see the point. Ultimately I think it’s moot because the teams all have different rivals. To get Bobrovsky to win Calder because of the salary implications you’d need a lot of GMs to all think the same way, and the guys out west probably don’t care that much about the Flyers’ cap situation; they’ll be looking to screw a team out west. It could even further break down among divisions if there are enough teams in that precarious predicament.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
Btw, if anyone whoops ShaMo tonight, I give you permission to slap them.
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by J.P. on Nov 17, 2010 9:29 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
What’s the deal on a “SHA-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-AY-MO-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-OH” CHANT?
If you've read this far...seek help.
I think the “whoop” lost its power for me when someone whooped poor Glen Metropolit last year.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 17, 2010 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
That’s terrible. Metro is/was a great story.
And I think the “whoop” jumped the shark long before last year…
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Agreed. I was always a Metro fan. Seems like a real class guy as well. One of my fave Metropolit videos is him at the skills comp in Montreal a few years ago and his sharpshooting display.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_KujpzbSPI Metro is from 1:10 on
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by Rather Bengt on Nov 17, 2010 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
There are some great Metro highlight videos out there. I kind of like this one, even though he’s not in a Caps uniform. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt2lyiyCM-8
Absolutely undresses Greg Zanon there.
Very nice. And I am a Greg Zanon fan also.
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by Rather Bengt on Nov 17, 2010 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
For me, the only “whoopable” ex-Cap is Larry Murphy. He was the original, and it should have been retired when he retired (although I sorta liked Murphy when he was here).
If you've read this far...seek help.
Agreed, though JJ certainly deserved… something.
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Off by 180 degrees.
"DON'T SAY THAT! Please! That is the worst, most stupid thing anyone could say! Cause it quite clearly isn't "only a game." I mean if it was do you honestly think I'd care this much?"
by Bald Pollack on Nov 17, 2010 9:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
The jersey number “92?”
(Query: what is it with players who wear that number? And why do they become free agent busts in Washington?)
Nylander and Haynesworth. I even went to basketball-reference.com to look up players who wore jersey number 92 in order to express my vehement displeasure should the Wizards ever acquire one.
The Nats didn’t give Bryce Harper “92,” did they?
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by ThePeerless on Nov 17, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
And speaking of which, how is it that a guy you sign for $100 million is a “free” agent?
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by ThePeerless on Nov 17, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
He should have got a “poop” instead of a “whoop”. He wasn’t good enough for the latter.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 17, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
I think Gonchar is acceptable as well, not that I’m crazy about the whooping in general but if it’s going to happen it needs to be directed towards Caps who played here for more than 82 games and are now playing for rivals (IE not Buffalo).
Hmm… Corvo deserves something, too.
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“BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO” is just not going to fully express my Joe Corvo hate.
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I’ve found that “No Means No” is a pretty effective chant for athletes that do things like that, provided you’re close enough that they’ll hear it.
"DON'T SAY THAT! Please! That is the worst, most stupid thing anyone could say! Cause it quite clearly isn't "only a game." I mean if it was do you honestly think I'd care this much?"
by Bald Pollack on Nov 17, 2010 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
Looking to get the finger from Corvo too, I see.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Nov 17, 2010 10:13 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Nah, just liked pissing off Montero and Jaqua.
"DON'T SAY THAT! Please! That is the worst, most stupid thing anyone could say! Cause it quite clearly isn't "only a game." I mean if it was do you honestly think I'd care this much?"
by Bald Pollack on Nov 17, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
I think someone should bring a sign that says “Joe Corvo eats baby meat.”
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by Rob Parker on Nov 17, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Baby meat? BABY MEAT??
Release the Mackan!
by Killer_Carlson on Nov 17, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
If there was only a way to condense the “If I only had a heart” song from Wizard of Oz into one quick snarky sound.
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by Rob Parker on Nov 17, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Whoopables...
There are only three players who could be considered to be whoopable from Caps history:
1) Larry Murphy: The original. Even got whooped when he skated the Stanley Cup around the VC in 1998
2) Kevin Hatcher: Decided he wanted more money than Scott Stevens was making at the time. David Poile said no. Hatcher said he’d sit out. Poile sent him to Dallas for Mark Tinordi.
3) Phil Housley: A forward in a defenseman’s body. The only coach who ever put Housley on the PK was Schoenfeld here in DC, and he put him on the PK as a forward, in an experiement to play 4 defensemen on the PK (he used Ken Klee as the other forward in that set.)
To be whooopable you have to be an ex-Caps defenseman who has lots of offensive talent, think you are better than you are, and leave town with a bit of a cloud. The only player to come close since then would have been Gonchar, but he wasn’t someone that the fans disliked, and the reason he was traded was because he happened to have value at Fire Sale time…
I hope ShaMo has a decent game tonight, in that he only is on the ice for power play goals against. I really don’t want him to have that career points night tonight…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Nov 17, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Great post Mike. Housley was always one of my least favourite players -whether on the Caps or otherwise. To hear his name and penalty killing mentioned in the same sentence makes me laugh (and shudder). I don’t remember that Schony experiment at all-amazing story there.
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by Rather Bengt on Nov 17, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
Oops post fail on my part
Great post Mike. Housley was always one of my least favourite players, whether on the Caps or otherwise. To hear his name and penalty killing mentioned in the same sentence makes me laugh (and shudder). I don’t remember that Schony experiment at all. Amazing story there.
I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone.
by Rather Bengt on Nov 17, 2010 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
DGB put it best, imo:
blockquote>Former players
Deciding whether or not to boo a returning former player can be tricky. While there is often lingering resentment over a player’s departure, it can seem hypocritical to boo a player who you’ve spent the last several years cheering for.
Based on my observations of fans around the league, it would appear that booing a returning player is allowed if and only if:
* The player left the team in a trade
* The player left the team as a free agent
* The player left the team as part of an expansion draft
* They refused to waive a no-trade clause
* They agreed to waive a no-trade clause
* They played well for your team
* They played poorly for your team
* They are a carbon-based life form
But except for those very specific circumstances, booing a returning former player is never allowed.
Many a night from yonder ivied casement, ere I went to rest,
Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.
I would never boo a former player. I would really never boo anyone, really, without in-game reason for booing.
I consider the “whooping” to be more teasing than booing. It’s not mean-spirited.
You had me at no problem.
How are you going to impress on certain fans the idiocy of “whooping” when they’re the ones chanting “1-2-3-4-5, it’s all your fault” to Thrashers’ goalie Ondrej Pavlec when he’s only let in one goal?
That was pretty brutal, but not nearly as brutal as when they did “1-2-3-4-5-6, it’s all your fault” to the fucking empty net.
The Who Cares in a close game is also idiotic.
/rehash
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Well, the goalie was only out there for five. In fact, in the history of the NHL, the net has been the only common factor in every goal scored. So clearly, it is all its fault.
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Nov 17, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
Damn. I was outsmarted by the VC crowd. I feel shame.
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I’m so embarrassed for you.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Nov 17, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
We are a Hockey Town!
We whoop a Hall of Famer and two US Hockey Hall of Famers because they weren’t good enough for us! OH YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!1
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Speaking of offspring, coach Bob Woods' son is heading to the University of Wisconsin
“Badger Brendan?”
Badger Bob having been taken and all…
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Makes official what was already known about his college plans so I didn’t click through before now to read the release. Now that I did,
“Eaves on Woods, "He’s from a hockey family. His dad [Bob] played in the NHL and now coaches with the Washington Capitals. He can be a power forward for us. He plays at top tempo and gives us good size. He will play hard."” (bold added)
played pro, yes; played in the NHL, when?
never, best I can tell. I can’t even find a 1 game call-up.
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But how’s their CORSI?
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by Rather Bengt on Nov 17, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Per Corey:
Based on the start of the morning skate I think (READ: THINK) Tomas Fleischmann will be a healthy scratch for the #Caps. Stay tuned.
Holy crap our prayers are answered.
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Speak for yourself – my prayers involve a much more permanent removal from the lineup. But it’s certainly a step in the right direction.
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by J.P. on Nov 17, 2010 10:12 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Scratch Flieschmann for a game. Do it 64 times.
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on Nov 17, 2010 10:18 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
No one will want him if he’s not playing, though.
by DrinkingPartner on Nov 17, 2010 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
Can’t really see how many people would want him when he is playing though.
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by twistedlogic on Nov 17, 2010 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
Just ask Nyls
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Nov 17, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
After reading the rumors this morning that LA was packaging prospects for a top-six forward, my thoughts went immediately to “Fleischmann.”
Then the medication wore off.
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by ThePeerless on Nov 17, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Do you have a link Peerless to those rumours? I wouldn’t mind reading up on it
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by Rather Bengt on Nov 17, 2010 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
FWIW, sometime before trade deadline, LAK will IMO try to parlay prospect(s) into proven Top 6 forward. But GM D Lombardi is methodical man.
The rumor that was circulating involved Schenn and Iginla.
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by ThePeerless on Nov 17, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
We don’t need prospects. We need experienced defensemen, just like every other team in the league.
You had me at no problem.
I dunno… Derek Forbort sounds pretty good.
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by ThePeerless on Nov 17, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Dontcha hate a team with a lot of young prospects?
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by ThePeerless on Nov 17, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Schenn and a pick for Semin? Done. Schenn is a great prospect.
by red army line on Nov 17, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry no way. The Caps are in their Cup window – you can’t keep pushing that off forever. If you trade Semin for Schenn you immediately take a huge step back on the present team. The players and coaching staff would revolt.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
by D'ohboy on Nov 17, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
And the window gets longer? Schenn should be good enough at least to be a third scoring line center, and could even be good enough for 2C pretty soon.
I do agree that this years team would be weaker, but after that?
by red army line on Nov 17, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
XXX should be good enough at least to be a third scoring line center, and could even be good enough for 2C pretty soon.
Who’s that sound like recently? Mackan, Flash, MP, BMo, Belanger ring any bells?
I’ll pass on giving up a proven, current goal scorer for a possible, future 2C. Unless they’re currently a 1C/2C that would fit well with this team, just say no
LET'S GO CAPS!!!
How many prospects can a team plausibly use though, and how long can you plausibly extend the “window”? What about Johansson (who has looked better at the NHL level than Schenn to this point) or Galiev or Kuznetsov or even Perreault?
The players and coaching staff would pitch a fit. Can you imagine GMGM looking Knuble in the eye after making a move like this, knowing that this was likely Knuble’s last real chance to win a Cup?
If Schenn came back the other way with Stoll or a defenseman like Johnson, I’d be ok with it, but indefinitely lengthening the window isn’t worth it.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
by D'ohboy on Nov 17, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I’d definitely take Stoll, even if he had a brutal game the other night against SJS (but somehow had a stud fantasy night). Seems like a great fit for this team. Can play C, PP point, SH, great shot, decent on the draw, playoff experience.
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Yeah. The issue is, I’m not sure LAK is sold on Handzus as a #2C and given how Schenn crapped the bed early on, I’m not sure they want to gamble on him, either.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
I don’t want Handzus. If they aren’t giving up Stoll I’m not listening.
Schenn is still young. Way too soon to write the book on him but he’s in the same group as the other young guys: not a difference maker this year so basically irrelevant when it comes to an analysis of our chances to win a Cup in 2011.
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Schenn has looked like anything but a scoring line center in the NHL so far.
"Semin had two goals this year, Perreault comes in and he gets three."
Not that he’s had a ton of chances. I think he’s probably better cast as a 3C but I’m ultimately on the D’ohboy side that we don’t need to stockpile prospects now. If we move out a major piece like Semin it has to bring a major roster player back. If there is a prospect thrown in that’s fine, but we can’t just dump Semin without upgrading another spot on this year’s roster.
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Especially with guys like Johansson and Kuznetsov waiting in the wings. If the prospect cupboard were bare, it might be a different story.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
Right, but there’s another aspect to that prospect cupboard thing. If we did get Schenn, then you have your 3C locked, and you have Mackan/Kuznetsov/Galiev//Eakin all ready to come up. That’s a ton of ELCs and that would really help us save money to keep our D together. I think it’s more likely to win a Cup with the D being more experienced and the Fs being younger, but I still don’t like the idea of pushing the window longer when we are as close as we are now.
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Yeah, I think the issues on this team aren’t personnel as much as…well, whatever makes them not able to control territorially as much as before, and consistently. This team, if it wins the Cup this year, is riding on Mike Green, hot goaltending, a hot top line, and bottom 9 forwards that don’t crap the bed defensively and contribute every now and then. Semin isn’t going to make or break the team this year, if you ask me.
by red army line on Nov 18, 2010 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
Semin is going to be much bigger than you suggest. The biggest failing has been a lack of a second line, and Semin cures that if he’s hot. Unless we get a 2C our second line rides or dies with Semin. No small factor.
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Maybe I should edit what I said above. Having Flash-Schenn/MarJo-Laich on the second line is playoff suicide. But using Schenn to make, say, Galiev or Eakin expendable and swapping one of them for a good but not game changing forward like Semin would be better for the future without sacrificing too much today. With a hot top line all that needs to happen is that the second line contributes a little. It doesn’t even have to be a goal a game as Semin-BMo-Laich came somewhat close to doing.
by red army line on Nov 18, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Flash out on a wing might work in LA, but I imagine they’re just making a trade for Malkin.
Many a night from yonder ivied casement, ere I went to rest,
Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.
According to Dwayne, they have “SERIOUS INTEREST” in Alexander Semin. There were a few trade-for-Iginla rumours out there. And it could be that Ponikarovsky’s injury is going to keep him out for a while and they really need someone to take the spot of “underproducing third-line-left-wing.”
I could see Flash or Semin out with the Kings but they don’t exactly have anything to offer the Caps. What they have is either valued way, way higher than them or way, way lower than them.
Many a night from yonder ivied casement, ere I went to rest,
Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.
What about a Semin for Jack Johnson trade? They are going to have trouble keeping Johnson and Doughty.
Johnsons corsi isn’t flatering, though he still has time to improve. I dunno, maybe he plays better in the spotlight a la olympics
by red army line on Nov 17, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
He definitely was better than I expected in the Olympics, and IIRC he was pretty good for USA in the WJCs when he played. I still don’t think he brings what we need so for the money he’ll make I’ll pass. Though it would be fun to get him back in the SE and stick it to Carolina 6 times a year.
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And then we’d have trouble keeping Carlson and Green because we have to deal with Johnson’s contract. I’m not a huge fan of his. I don’t hate him, but I tend to think he’s actually what PPP thinks Mike Green is.
I’d rather take Stoll off their hands and one of their high end D prospects.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
I like the idea of getting Stoll. As you detailed above, his strengths bolster elements of the team that definitely need it. That being said, I’m not sold on his contributions being anywhere near Semin’s.
I would much prefer us sending Flash, and/or Fehr, and/or prospects.
Not only give them serviceable winger(s) but also future options.
Soon the Championship with be ours, all ours!
His contributions won’t be Semin’s (at least not hot Semin), but he does address a major need at 2C. That’s all my point was. If we lose Semin, we have to address a weakness somewhere else. I don’t think they have a D that it makes sense for us to take on, so a C is the next most logical. We can find a D somewhere else. I still don’t think Semin moves, nor does it make sense, and having major roster shakeups is probably not the way to go. Of course I’d prefer to send Flash or Fehr, but what do they really get us back?
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Ah ok. I am definitely not in favor of losing Semin, even if it were for a 2C and D. . .maybe. . .
I think Fehr or Flash with a prospect could net us a decent Defenseman. They’re both Top-6 wingers with good numbers. If we werent mortal enemies with pittsburgh, and if they didnt screw their cap space up, I think they’d be ideal trade partners.
That being said, the only way we could unload Flash or Fehr and a prospect would be to a team with no play-off chances. Unfortunately, i think most teams who have a decent 2C will be in the play-off hunt
Soon the Championship with be ours, all ours!
I was thinking about making some joke about Flash not being in the line up tonight and comparing that to an iPhone (which doesn’t run Adobe Flash graphics), but it’s a bit too nerdy, so this joke is left as an exercise for the audience, and no looking at each other’s papers.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Nov 17, 2010 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
Cue the “Its a TRAP” picture. Just lulling the Sabres into a false sense of security that they won’t have to face Flash tonight and then BANG, there’s 14 in the lineup. The Sabres will have to change their gameplan to account for more faceoff wins less defensive coverage down the middle. Brilliant!
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Nov 17, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Or this.
You perhaps knew me better as "Your Nation's Capital." Same great commentary, now with 100% more transparency!
by EmilyB on Nov 17, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 17, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Just choked on my sandwich laughing. Thanks for that.
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by twistedlogic on Nov 17, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Isn’t Fleischmann the prototypical KHL player? It seems that he is destined to spend his most productive years playing for Ak-Bars or someone not in the NHL.
Tickets for Tonight
I just posted my two season tickets in the Rink Rat Ticket Exchange for less than half of face value if anyone’s interested in going at the last minute.
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I may be interested I will email you soon if I can make it
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by i12swim on Nov 17, 2010 10:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
SOLD!
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by Scott in Shaw on Nov 17, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks again, first caps game of the year and first being 21.
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Nice — you’ll find the bar pretty close to the entrance to our section.
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by Scott in Shaw on Nov 17, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Kaleta out tonight
According to Sabre’s Edge, Patrick Kaleta will miss tonight’s game with an upper body injury.
Boy, do I despise that guy.
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However, when he’s in the lineup, the “American Pest Penalty Kill” is surprisingly apropos.
by Wheeler on Nov 17, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
A million times worse than Avery, a million times less pub.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 17, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Needs a fashion intern gig…maybe with Bass Pro Shops
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by ThePeerless on Nov 17, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Miller lost a lot of points with me when he didn’t call out Kaleta in his “we need to change the culture” thing.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 17, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Since when did Ryan Miller become a yogurt expert?
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by Rather Bengt on Nov 17, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Ac-ti-vi-AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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by ThePeerless on Nov 17, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Interesting. I had always wondered if having one’s head up their ass was categorized as upper or lower body. Now I know.
Release the Mackan!
by Killer_Carlson on Nov 17, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Random question time. Caps are auctioning off the jerseys from the Tampa game last week. This seems to be something done on a regular basis these days, as I think I’ve seen an auction table almost every game (items of varying sources). I also assume this is being done by all the other teams as well.
Aside from the fact that I can’t/won’t shell out what it would take to purchase one, what’s the allure? One of my rules of thumb is that the only way I’d bid on a collectible I wanted would be if it was to raise money for charity. These apparently don’t. I don’t begrudge the teams trying to get extra revenue, it just doesn’t impress me.
"It's always good to have vikings."
The Caps’ site sounds like it’s just an ordinary sale, not an auction. I think there was a story about this somewhere, how teams want to control the game-worn market.
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OK, I maybe mis-stated the sale, but I guess the point still remains.
"It's always good to have vikings."
I guess you can blame the interest in game-worn stuff. I believe the NHL contracted with the MeiGray company to handle authentication and everything. I don’t know if they authenticate the jerseys for every game, so maybe there’s a limited amount of these.
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You know why Greatest Game DVD box sets need to be picked a little better? So they can prevent things like this.
"DON'T SAY THAT! Please! That is the worst, most stupid thing anyone could say! Cause it quite clearly isn't "only a game." I mean if it was do you honestly think I'd care this much?"
Actually, that’s probably exactly why the makers of the DVD sets don’t put more effort into picking the games.
Release the Mackan!
by Killer_Carlson on Nov 17, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Subban/Richards
So, PK Subban got into it a bit with Mike Richards last night, and Richards was not amused.
During the game, I thought the odds were high that Subban and Richards would scrap after their little tete-a-tete, as they were jawing at each other pretty animatedly in the penalty box. Lavy sent out Jody Shelley along with Darrell Powe late in the game, which tells you what HE had in mind; Claude Giroux hooked and slashed the snot out of Subban several times as time ran out in an attempt to get him to fight; and in the little scrum that followed, O’Donnell (I think it was him) face-washed Subban from behind and body-slammed him to the ice.
The Habs come to Philly on Monday night…this bears watching, I think.
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“Hopefully someone on their team addresses it, because, uh, I’m not saying I’m going to do it but something might happen to him of he continues to be that cocky.”
You know, I’m okay with fighting, and even a certain level of retribution, but statements like that really need to fined. That’s a threat if I’ve ever seen one. Steve Moore, anyone?
"It's always good to have vikings."
I disagree. That’s not that big a deal. The Steve Moore stuff was way more built up, and if it weren’t for the Bertuzzi thing nobody would have thought twice about it.
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That’s the point. Not what will happen, but what’s implied. End it early.
"It's always good to have vikings."
But they aren’t implying anything specific. If they are implying he needs to fight then what’s the big deal?
Remember, Steve Moore got challenged and fought after the Naslund (clean) hit. The problem was that Vancouver kept chirping and culminated in the Bertuzzi incident. If PHI chirps and makes Subban fight next time they play is that really objectionable?
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I’m starting to think that Mike Richards is a giant tool. Like a bigger tool than he already seemed to be.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 17, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
He may be a tool, but I think there’s some truth to what he’s saying just based on the few games I’ve seen PK.
Yeah, but you can’t call out a guy like that and basically insinuate that bodily harm is coming his way.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 17, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
It’s not even his job to call Subban out, period. That should be Brian Gionta’s job.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 17, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
I know… Was referring to his over-the-top Ovie comments about getting “cut in half” for celebrating.
You had me at no problem.
Depends on how the harm comes. If he’s basically saying “he’s going to have to fight and he’s going to get his lunch fed to him” then who cares? That’s one of the main purposes of fighting in the league, and that kind of stuff at the Junior level is part of the reason young hockey stars end up being so much more humble than, say, NFL or NBA stars.
Now, if he gets cheap shotted it should and (presumably) will be dealt with.
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In Richards’ defense, the incident that precipitated the whole thing went like this: Richards “finished his check” on Kostitsyn (a bit late, but not out of the ordinary for the NHL), I presume to “send the message” that the Flyers were not just going to lay there and take it. Kostitsyn eyed Richards with some dislike on his face, and Richards stood there waiting for Kostitsyn to make up his mind. When the latter did nothing, Richards turned to skate away, whereupon Kostitsyn gave him a very healthy cross check in the kidneys.
Richards turned around to fight, and Kostitsyn promptly jumped behind the linesman. So, cheap shot followed by, um, non-manly move.
Subban intervened and yapped at Richards while declining to drop the gloves. Then yapped some more at Richards in the box.
Lots of talking, very little follow up. So I’m sort of behind Richards on this one, to the extent it is possible to be behind a Flyers player.
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by fat_daddyo on Nov 17, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
There was also at least one official trying desperately to keep Subban and Richards separated. The officials clearly were not going to allow a fight if they could help it.
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I may be wrong, but I believe that if the two combatants indicate their mutual willingnes to go at it, the linesman will vacate. Given that Richards was obviously wanting to do some boxing, and as the linesman stayed in there, I have to think Subban declined?
Maybe reading too much into this, of course.
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I think the linesmen only kept it apart because they were already there. Rarely do they pull out after they’ve inserted themselves into the situation.
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Rarely do they pull out after they’ve inserted themselves into the situation.
Ahem….really?
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Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Nov 17, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
Well, you don’t want to insert yourself, then pull out, only to have to reinsert yourself.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
I agree FD. I dislike Richards as much as the next person, but Subban was a punk last night. Put up or shut up PK.
"Because the game is not just about fighting no more. " D.J. King
So I’m sort of behind Richards on this one, to the extent it is possible to be behind a Flyers player.
Best place to be is behind a Flyers player, it’s harder to cross checked from behind someone
LET'S GO CAPS!!!
by Elliotte on Nov 17, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I wish they would have fought. That’s 10 PIM for my fantasy team right there.
Release the Mackan!
by Killer_Carlson on Nov 17, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
Was getting ready to argue that Gordon should be on the 3rd line with Steckel on the 4th line. And all that did was remind me of the Caps’ startling lack of depth at center…
by mechanicsville on Nov 17, 2010 11:17 AM EST reply actions
Did he choke up a bit when he said it?
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on Nov 17, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
It’s taken a long time for that wheel to rotate since Game 7 of last season.
I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone.
by Rather Bengt on Nov 17, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
And even Bruce can realize that three points in the month of November aren’t gonna cut it. Flash actually hasn’t been a minus in a single game this year, but I’m not buying that he’s suddenly foregone offense in sacrifice of defense all of a sudden. He’s just been bad.
Flash actually hasn’t been a minus in a single game this year
No Flash? No Gordon?? Game over, man…game OH-ver!
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Nov 17, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If it was, you’d think he would cell it more than he did.
I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone.
by Rather Bengt on Nov 17, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The idea of putting Flash in charge is revolting.
There's no 'i' in "team". But there's a 'nap' in "champion".
by redlineblue on Nov 17, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Meh, with the current lineup, I don’t think he would do that poorly
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Rec the Fan Shot for those participating in the unofficial Japers’ Rink Winter Classic pick up game Part Tre. Need more rec’s to remain on the first page of this blog site so it can easily be found by additional skaters that want to participate. We’re around 20 +/- skaters and could use a few more. The ideal scenario is to have the pick up game within the Rink. Also, other Rinkers that want to come out and hang out for pre-pickup game festivities (Caps game watching and imbibing) are more than welcome!
Rink Rabbits, NP Rink Rats, lurkers, anyone … please help us out by rec’ing it. We’re trying to keep Game 3 of the Japers’ Rink Winter Classic alive and well.
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That’s not how fan shots work. Those go phonologically. Fan Posts move up\down with recs.
Think twice before you speak, and then you may be able to say something more insulting than if you spoke right out at once.
or chronologically*
Think twice before you speak, and then you may be able to say something more insulting than if you spoke right out at once.
There are recommended fanshots on the right of my screen right now. Maybe when you click on a page.
by red army line on Nov 17, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Crap. No TV for expats tonight.
Can’t find a listing on Center Ice, Versus or anywhere else. Please dont make me stream it. It’s like Locker diagraming a play… Hold it here, O.K….. stop it here…
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by Edanger6 on Nov 17, 2010 12:39 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Enjoy the journey.
I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone.
by Rather Bengt on Nov 17, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
I love Locker and his telestrator! Although you generally can’t tell what he’s trying to show when he stops the tape.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 17, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
My brother made a sign about that bit and got on TV for it a few games back. “HEY LOCKER! HOLD IT HERE!”
You had me at no problem.
That’s awesome. Pretty clever too.
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by twistedlogic on Nov 17, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
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by EmilyB on Nov 17, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Okay…so maybe you can tell what he’s trying to show!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 17, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
It’s a diagram of all the spots Jizz left on the ice after his goal.
by DrinkingPartner on Nov 17, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
So it’s safe to say that Jizz is everywhere?
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by twistedlogic on Nov 17, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
I’m expecting a big game out of Neuvirth tonight. His last few games haven’t been his greatest, never mind that the rest of the team contributed to that. But he’s fallen off the media radar. Bobrovsky has matched him in wins. And he’ll be facing a top goalie in Miller (and when he beat the Sabres last year, he was feeling quite pleased with himself). I almost think Neuvy sometimes needs to be saying, “I’ll show them” to play his best.
"It's always good to have vikings."
Whoops
I understand which players get the “whoop”, what I don’t understand is why they get the “whoop”. And not “why” them, but “why” the sound “whoop”?
Although my first caps game was in 1981, and I’ve always been a big fan, I missed out on going to games from 1994-2007 because I lived in AZ, CA and La France during that time (have been a season ticket holder since I moved back)
Every time I’ve asked someone “Why are they whooping?” the answer is “because when he used to play here he was a defenseman and we did it.”
Which I understand and have for a while but it still doesn’t explain, of course, the choice of the sound or why it started to begin with. I’m starting to think that no one knows the answer to this.
If you are driving in the left hand lane and you are not passing, you are a #$@&$
I remember going to a Caps game in their old barn, and I had a guy explain it like this:
Basically, when Larry Murphy was on the Caps, he would rush the puck a lot. However, early in his career, he didn’t look very smooth while doing it. He would fumble the puck and turn it over on a pretty consistent basis. So, a group of fans would start the “whoop, whoop” chant whenever he would carry the puck up the ice. It caught on, and the rest is history.
I have also never heard that from another Caps fan since, and it seems like everyone has a different answer.
Maybe it started during a Salt-N-Pepa concert and they misheard “Shoop”?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 17, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Larry Murphy- whatta man.
I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone.
by Rather Bengt on Nov 17, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Well yeah, I think he’s great too, but I don’t wanna push it.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 17, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
There are two things I will love Larry Murphy for:
- His contribution to the Stanley Cup winning Penguins
- Being a horrible analyst (sounds like he is drunk)
He looks like he could be Val Kilmer’s brother.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 17, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
If alisterio wanted to know the most feasible explanation, I would’ve given him yours. I misunderstood and thought he wanted a reason that wasn’t as likely.
The explanation I was told was that it evolved from a bit “The Greaseman” used to do when he was morning shock jock on DC 101. He would yell “Spindly alert! Spindly alert!” while a “whoop whoop” siren sound played to make fun of someone he thought was wimpy. And since Murphy was disliked for never hitting anyone, the fans started doing the “whoop whoop” a la Greaseman. Don’t know how true that is, but have heard it from a couple of different people.
by Hangsleben's Heroes on Nov 17, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Great. As if I didn’t have enough of a reason already to hate the Greaseman.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 17, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
I never really listened to him, I listened to Don and Mike growing up since they were just down the street at the time and I used to see them around.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
Mike was seriously pissed after game 7 vs the Pens. Even though he had only started following the team during the playoff run, he got so emotional, he was ready to go all Chad Dukes when we got crushed like that.
You had me at no problem.
Dukes is a joke.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 17, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
The story I heard is that it was a turkey call used by people who hunt wild turkeys, who, coincidentally, used to populate the upper level of the Cap Center….one of many reasons I despise it.
Speaking of things in the stands we despise…there’s someone I can hear on TV giving this whistle to the cadence of Let’s Go Caps. Even I can tell it’s off key and it’s annoying as hell.
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by Knee high to a duck on Nov 17, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Oh. My. God. There are several people in the arena that do this and it is annoying as hell! No whistling! No fake horn guys! I even get annoyed when Slapshot beats his drum because it’s always off the beat of Goat or THG!
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by Scott in Shaw on Nov 17, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
OMG, the mike is open for Caps Report but they’re not officially on the air yet.
"It's always good to have vikings."
Worth watching if only to hear a good ol’ Canadian boy say “house” and “out” several times over.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Nov 17, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
Canadian accents are strangely attractive,.
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I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone.
by Rather Bengt on Nov 17, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
He’s single. Surprised it’s not in the kitchen. IIRC, Brooksie had his garage madeover gratis in exchange for allowing it to be filmed for a Caps video. Now he gets a fee home gym thanks to his infomercial for Fitness Resource. Sounds like Ol’ Brooksie learned to fish pretty well in Wawota, cause he’s getting hooked big time.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Nov 17, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
PHPA updates from Leone
“Ben Guite, Andrew Joudrey, Graham Mink, Eric Neilson, Peter Zingoni, and Adam Huxley appointed to PHPA Executive Committee.”
I was always a fan of Adam’s father Aldous.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 17, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
Happy Birthday Dennis Maruk
Appropriate that Dennis Maruk’s birthday falls in Movember as he had one of the best, if not the best, ‘staches in Caps history. His Fu Manchu facial hair made him just as recognizable as his ability to convert a takeaway into a breakaway. Besides his awesome speed, Maruk had great stickhandling skills and an effective wrister. At 5’8 and 165, his size never got in way of his awesome offensive skill.
The OHL player of the year after scoring 66g 79a 145 pts in 65 games for the London Knights, Maruk was drafted by the California Golden Seal. They relocated to Cleveland after one season. The Barons went on to merge with the Minnesota North Stars and he would be traded to the Caps in the 1978-1979 season.
It was here where Maruk became one of the NHL’s top offensive threats, scoring over 50 goals in both 1980-1981 and 1981-1982. In 1981-1982, his line read 80 GP 60g 76a for 136 pts (and an extra 128 PIM as well). He was the first 100 point scorer in Caps history and his assists and points totals remain Caps franchise records.The Caps traded him back to the North Stars after a 81 point 1982-1983 season for a 2nd round draft choice who became Caps late 80s role player Stephen Leach. In his final 6 seasons with MInny, Maruk only cracked 20 goals once and had a high of 60 points.
On a personal note, Dennis Maruk was the only hockey jersey I have ever owned. When my Dad found out I was a Caps fan, he got his 7 year old a litle white Dennis Maruk Caps # 21 jersey.
I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone.
by Rather Bengt on Nov 17, 2010 2:31 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Sorry to Bring This Up Again
I’m reading conflicting information.
1. I don’t see the game listed on NHLN schedule tonight.
2. I don’t see the game listed on the CI schedule at Directv.com
3. I don’t see the game listed when I call up my channel guide online.
Obviously CSN and MSG are broadcasting tonight.
Has anyone legitimately found the game on their Directv schedule? I just don’t see it. Unfortunately, I haven’t checked the box to see if it’s listed there.
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No problem… I’m having the exact same issue and have been discussing it over on Capitals Insider. I can’t figure it out.
EmilyB and at least 2 other posters think the game is on NHL Network. Maybe the guide just doesn’t reflect it for some reason… late addition to the schedule or something.
Oddly enough, I have seen Capitals vs Rangers, Tonight at 7pm on Versus flash 3 times on their ticker.
Obviously, that’s a mistake but I’ve never seen them make that kind of mistake before.
Trade between CAL and CAR
http://hurricanes.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=543783
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They got Ian White? Are you fucking kidding me, Darryl Sutter?! For Babchuk and Koustopolous?! GMGM, pick up your phone, right the fuck now and see what he wants for Daymond Langkow. Or Rene Bourque.
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by Knee high to a duck on Nov 17, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Langkow is toast.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
Injury too much to overcome?
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by Knee high to a duck on Nov 17, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
You don’t want Langkow after his injury last year.
I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone.
by Rather Bengt on Nov 17, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that hurts. If White was on the market for peanuts (essentially) then why weren’t we involved. I guess Sutter really likes Babchuk?
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
He must. Guy’s got a bomb from the point and Calgary doesn’t have one of those guys, but it’s not like they lack for guys to QB the PP.
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by Knee high to a duck on Nov 17, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Isn’t that what they pay 6 million plus for?
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
Right, and Brendan Morrison is actually a pretty good distributor from back there.
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by Knee high to a duck on Nov 17, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder how much of this was optics pressure about nepotism after Brett got himself arrested in a bar brawl. If that’s the case, it’s a damn shame GMGM wasn’t sending back some talent for Ian White.
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by Knee high to a duck on Nov 17, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
I’d take on Sutter and bury his ass in the minors if that’s what it took to get Ian White.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
I had the exact same thought. He’s definitely in the top-4 and eases the burden on everyone else in the lineup. Man, I’m ticked off.
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by Knee high to a duck on Nov 17, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Not that it matters, but I wonder how the calgary fans feel about this trade. And Leafs fans, now that they’ll get to see Ian more often as well.
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What ticks me off about it is that CGY is one of the teams I think we would have a chance to foist Flash on as trade bait. Darryl Sutter proves again and again his weakness for obtaining European forwards who play below their skill set: see Ales Kotalik last year, Marcus Nilson a couple years ago. I am sure we could have worked a deal using Flash in it to attain White.
I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone.
by Rather Bengt on Nov 17, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
What really kills me is that I thought Ian White was the “big piece” Calgary got back for Phaneuf. Now that “big piece” is . . . ANTON BABCHUK????
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
I think Darryl Sutter would tell you that “big piece” was Matt Stajan with all the cheddar he dropped to extend him.
I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone.
by Rather Bengt on Nov 17, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
Sutter is a fucking moron, then.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
No argument there.
I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone.
by Rather Bengt on Nov 17, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
Fuuuuuuuuck. I really wanted Ian White. Not going to like playing him 5 times this year.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
You’re telling me.This bites. And hard.
I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone.
by Rather Bengt on Nov 17, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
Only explanation
Its official: Darryl Sutter is actually a NHL11 GM.
Mike Weber: Rejailed into the pressbox.
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DirecTV and the Game Tonight
Found the solution to those who couldn’t find the game:
It’s on 786, 786-1 and 787.
My guide was only showing up to 785, 785-1. I had to manually add the stations above that which were hidded from my favorites list. I think it’s an issue with how DirecTV updates subscribers Favorites guides.
Either way, those are the stations for the game. I don’t think it’s being shown on NHL Network.
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