Capital Ups and Downs: Week 6
Our weekly look at individual Washington Capitals' ups and downs:
| Goalies | Trend | Notes |
| Braden Holtby | ![]() |
Played well enough to win Saturday night in Buffalo. Unfortunately, his teammates didn't. |
| Michal Neuvirth | ![]() |
If you're looking for the silver lining to a week in which the Caps' top netminder posted a 3.35 GAA and .896 save percentage, it's that Neuvy's third period GAA was 2.00 and his save percentage .938, helping him to a 3-0-0 record. |
| Semyon Varlamov | ![]() |
Stopped 21 of 24 shots for a win in his (first?) rehab start in Hershey. The Caps will be tempted to recall him sooner rather than later - let's see what they do. |
| Defensemen | ||
| Karl Alzner | ![]() |
Struggled a bit in the Big Apple to start the week (though he did find his way onto the scoresheet for the first time this season), but scored his first goal in |
| John Carlson | ![]() |
Only had one point on the week (an assist against the Bolts), but played more than 87 minutes overall and was only on the ice for two goals against... even if it feels like that Vanek goal should count double. |
| John Erskine | ![]() |
Mr. Movember had two goals (including Sunday's game-winner) and an assist, a plus-four rating and an early candidate for Fight of the Year this week. His two goals this week were as many as he scored in his previous 142 games, and his plus-four goal differential for the week was tops among the team's blueliners. |
| Mike Green | ![]() |
A couple of points (and a fight of his own) in Manhattan and a two-point effort on Sunday sandwiched a couple of point-less games for Green. |
| Tom Poti | ![]() |
Returned to the lineup against Tampa, scored a pretty goal... then promptly missed the next two games with what one would assume to be a recurrence of that nagging lower-body injury. |
| Jeff Schultz | ![]() |
Schultz ended the week with an even rating but was on the ice for a team-worst six of the 13 goals the Caps allowed for the week (albeit three of those were power-play goals). |
| Tyler Sloan | ![]() |
With three assists in three games this week (he was scratched on Thursday), Sloan now has five points in his last five games and has gone nine games without a minus rating. You can't ask for any more from this guy. |
| Forwards | ||
| Nicklas Backstrom | ![]() |
His four-assist game against Tampa highlighted a six-point week in which he had a plus-five rating, was only on the ice for two even-strength goals against, and won 61.4% of his 70 faceoffs (don't look now, but he's in the top-20 in that category). |
| Matt Bradley | ![]() |
Had the primary assist on the game-winner against the Rangers, won a fight against Tampa, and had a helper on the winner against the Thrash. |
| Jason Chimera | ![]() |
Two things not to love about Chimmer's week (other than the one-point-in-four-games): the extra two minutes he got in Buffalo for complaining about a call and the one hit total with which he was credited over the last three games. |
| Eric Fehr | ![]() |
Sunday's assist was his only point of the week, which is perhaps not wholly surprising, given the linemates with whom he's been skating. |
| Tomas Fleischmann | ![]() |
Weeks in which Flash has as many double-minors as points are never going to be good, and this one was no exception. |
| Boyd Gordon | ![]() |
Supposedly out a week with his latest injury. Bet the over. |
| Matt Hendricks | ![]() |
Scored the game-winner at Madison Square Garden and lit the lamp again back home on Sunday (to go with a plus-three rating). |
| Marcus Johansson | ![]() |
I'd say that he's still getting back up to speed after his injury, but that would imply that he was there before he got hurt. He wasn't. But he will be. And if Sunday's third period is any indication, it might be sooner rather than later. |
| D.J. King | ![]() |
Skated just five shifts for a total ice time of 3:56 against the Rangers, but managed to be on the ice for a goal against (and didn't even fight Derek Boogaard, much to the chagrin of fight fans everywhere). |
| Mike Knuble | ![]() |
Goals in back-to-back games to start the week (and end his scoring slump) were certainly nice, but he needs to be playing with more skilled linemates if his offensive production at even strength is going to be anything significant. |
| Brooks Laich | ![]() |
Was outstanding against New York, but less noticeable the rest of the week. |
| Alex Ovechkin | ![]() |
With two goals and five assists on the week, AO keeps piling up the points. But with just four shots on goal over the last three games, you can tell that he's not playing his best hockey. |
| Alexander Semin | ![]() |
Four goals, four assists and a plus-four rating in four games. All those fours are just his way of honoring John Erskine. |
| David Steckel | ![]() |
Scratched against the Rangers, Stecks responded by leading the team in hits in two of the next three games, registering his first two points of November on Sunday (to go with a plus-three rating), and, most impressively, won 71% of his 69 faceoffs for the week. |
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Is it just me, or is Hendricks making D.J. King completely obsolete?
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I think D.J. King is making D.J. King completely obsolete.
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by J.P. on Nov 15, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 12 recs
I’ve argued he was obsolete long before putting on a Caps sweater. Hendricks only makes him an even more useless model.
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by Carl Putnam on Nov 15, 2010 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
Doesn’t Hendricks replace Steckel more so than King?
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by zephyr on Nov 15, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Possibly, except Stecks actually has his uses (I’m trying to think of another besides faceoffs, but I can’t). What does King do?
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
Setting up Erskine for GWG’s and scoring deal-sealing empty netters, of course.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Nov 15, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
See? Stecks has versatility after all. Very complete, well-rounded player.
Okay, maybe versatile isn’t the right word.
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
In addition to the above, don’t forget that Stecks saves kittens… (or is there a statute of limitations on that?)
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by war_capitals on Nov 15, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
I wasn’t saying Steckel was useless just that before Hendricks, he had more of a purpose. King had no real spot on the team to begin with and they aren’t even comparable players on paper.
Think twice before you speak, and then you may be able to say something more insulting than if you spoke right out at once.
Hendricks makes anyone on the 4th line obsolete, a ton of people down in Hershey that might have came up and Greg Sherman.
Many a night from yonder ivied casement, ere I went to rest,
Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.
Yeah, the revelation that is Matt Hendricks doesn’t help Beagle or Pinner any.
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Which while bad for those guys, is nothing but a positive for the Caps.
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by Davethecapsfan on Nov 15, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
So… 2 year extension any day now?
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
isn’t he on a one-year deal? so nothing till Jan 1 then. GMGM’s just gonna have to wait
LET'S GO CAPS!!!
Even the Nylander deal my end up looking better than the extension that other popular Washington sports franchise inked today
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by Davethecapsfan on Nov 15, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
Hendricks is not a heavyweight like King. So if you believe that DJ was brought in specifically to deal with the Boogaards of the world, then I would say no, Hendricks is not making him totally obsolete. My feeling is that King was obsolete save for maybe a game or two, with or without Hendy.
Hendricks’s play (and DJ’s as well) have made it much tougher to give DJ a sweater. I don’t think going into the season the Caps were considering them interchangeable.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Nov 15, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
4 is doing his part, too.
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by bigonetimer on Nov 15, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
The problem with that is that the Caps can ill-afford to lose Erskine, and he does have a concussion history. Love Big John for stepping up like he has (on Byfuglien for running Neuvy, with Boulton, etc.), but ideally he wouldn’t be forced into that role all that often.
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Whenever I see Erskine do something like that I keep thinking about who those 9/10 defensemen are that the Caps are likely to have to employ before the season is over.
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by ThePeerless on Nov 15, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Whenever I see Erskine or any defenseman do something like that, I keep thinking about how much of a pain in the ass it is to roll 5 D, particularly when one of them is T-Slo.
I don’t mind the random fight here and there from a defenseman, but it shouldn’t be a regular occurrence.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
Considering it’s only 5 minutes he’s in the box (if he manages to survive the fight healthy), and that the 4/89 pair gets hidden so much anyway, I don’t think it’s a big deal. Getting a concussion is a much bigger deal. BB roles 52/55 and 27/74 for long stretches anyway, so doing it for 5 minutes isn’t a big deal. Plus, if he needs to get TSlo out there he can put him with one of our better D to watch his ass.
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Backstrom’s jump in FO% has been very impressive. Let’s see if it lasts. I could see him generating some Selke buzz in the next few seasons if he keeps it up and keeps improving on the PK.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Nov 15, 2010 11:21 AM EST reply actions
He, Toews, and Datsyuk all have top-five takeaway totals and are winning 56% of their draws. Those three would be my early season nominees for the Selke trophy.
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Lasts? he has been over 50 percent in 14 of 18 games this year and finished last season at over 50 percent in 26 of his last 43 games last season. It isn’t the best part of his game, but the improvement seems genuine.
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by ThePeerless on Nov 15, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
The sample size has been large enough to say that he’s obviously improved it to where it’s not a weakness anymore. From above I still have doubts he’ll get Selke consideration as much as he should because of the stigma our team has as not being a defensive juggernaut.
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by Davethecapsfan on Nov 15, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
And Selke nominations take momentum. They take years of “this guy is really good at D!” Backstrom hasn’t gotten any of that attention yet. I don’t think numbers have much to do with Selke at all, and I definitely don’t think FO% is a big deal. I could see Koivu getting the Selke nomination just because of all that “he’s great on D and plays top lines!” talk that came out after his contract extension.
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Much like NFL Pro Bowl nominations…it takes a certain bit of word of mouth to “get on the list” but once you’re on it you’re on it.
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by Davethecapsfan on Nov 15, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
I think the best part of Erskine’s game lately isn’t even the offensive production, it is that he’s being smarter about when to be physical.
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Agreed. The bottom pairing D need to play it safe and smart, and stay within their abilities. That’s something Erskine has shown the ability to do, even if inconsistently.
I wish I could say the same for Sloan (actually, I don’t, that would probably mean he’d stay up with the Caps even longer).
The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Nov 15, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Erskine gets into a groove every once in awhile and plays some great defense. I wish he’d take more lessons from the book o’ Schultz on how to not hit and just occupy space and passing lanes. If he continues playing like this I don’t have any inkling of anxiety going into the playoffs with him on the 3rd pairing.
Many a night from yonder ivied casement, ere I went to rest,
Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.
just occupy space and passing lanes
That would require that he hold onto his stick for an entire shift.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
by D'ohboy on Nov 15, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Was it ever made clear who got the extra 2 min. on the Chimmer penalty? I’d assume it was him but Joe B. said he thought it might have been the bench.
Not that it would help him get out of red arrow territory.
It was Chimmer’s penalty. Chimmer was wearing the A that game, which should give him some more leeway in talking with officials. I know the C or A doesn’t give you carte blanche to bitch at the refs but I was surprised he got the extra two. Must have said some magic words.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Nov 15, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Neuvy’s third period GAA was 2.00 and his save percentage .938, helping him to a 3-0-0 record
BB agrees. In his presser last night he noted how Neuvy seems to have the ability to “shut it down” in the end to preserve the win. Not use to hearing Bruce praise goalies, especially after allowing 4 goals in a game.
"I would feed them lefts until I was pretty much tired of doing it." - Alan May, JRR, 10.16.2010
He has said that stuff about Neuvirth before, which is definitely high praise coming from BB. I also was paying attention to the shot clock in the VC yesterday and they seemed to be stingy with handing out shots for ATL. Neuvy should have had a higher save percentage!
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Chimera may be the fastest guy on the team, but MJ90 isn’t far behind. He is an absolutely beautiful skater. He’s been snakebit on some of his chances, but he’s putting himself in the right position offensively. Unlike Baackstrom in his first season, MJ isn’t afraid to take a shot.
We’re totally spoiled on skaters. Chimera is a blur, Mackan is extremely quick, Green looks almost ethereal at times the way he can move around.
Many a night from yonder ivied casement, ere I went to rest,
Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.
Eh, it balances out – we still have to watch Steckel.
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by J.P. on Nov 15, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
He’s the absolute worst on the team, just a travesty. I guess it isn’t ugly like Schultz, or like Schultz used to be. He really seems to have got rid of his knock-kneed look. Go figure the guy is playing some of the best defensive hockey in the league and making some dynamite passes to start the offense.
Many a night from yonder ivied casement, ere I went to rest,
Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.
So Wednesday will be his ninth NHL game. Any chance the Caps are thinking about sending him back to Sweden for the year?
Two things make me say yes:
1) He’s losing a lot of board battles and getting pushed off of the puck easily. He could use a year to develop more physically and get a bit stronger in order to line up against bigger NHL players.
2) His faceoff skills are lacking, and he could use some serious improvement in that area.
I doubt he will end up going back to Sweden, but given that young players are more likely to “hit the wall” than break out mid-season, it might be on the minds of the higher-ups.
I think #1 and #2 are solved by just having him play here. He’s not the biggest guy, but being strong on the boards is all leverage. More practice and more games and he’ll have it sorted out. #2, just sit there and learn from Gordo, Backstrom and Steckel.
Many a night from yonder ivied casement, ere I went to rest,
Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.
He’s here for the duration and with good reason. Barring a trade, he’s really the best option the team has for the #2C, which isn’t a great thing. But that’s the hand McPhee has dealt, so let’s hope he grows into the position.
Oh, definitely. If they feel he is ready for the NHL make sure he plays at least half the season. He doesn’t look totally out of place and certainly seems to have the potential to play 2C.
Many a night from yonder ivied casement, ere I went to rest,
Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.
He could easily have a couple of helpers had some of his linemates (including Laich and Semin) finished some of the chances he’s set up in his short stint. The points will come, I’d like to see him really work on those faceoffs.
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by Davethecapsfan on Nov 15, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
After the Kerfuffle a few weeks back over the length of Ovi’s shifts (giggidy), has there been any follow up or has anyone notice if Ovi is keeping is TOI and TOS down from his numbers earlier in the year?
Everything sounds smarter in Tikkanesse....
His average shifts have come down a bit over the past few games, but that’s due in large part to the Caps getting so few power plays (and thus AO getting fewer two-minute shifts).
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His low shot production is what concerns me. Still hurting from the wrist slash taken in the Nashville game?
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Could be injured or maybe he’s listening to all the critics and trying to show he can be more “Sidney-like” and play an all-around game.
Your point regarding Knuble and his current linemates hits home to me. Watching the last few games I’ve been wondering how on Earth 22 will be able to produce with his current linemates. While Semin’s #‘s obviously spike when playing on the top line, I wonder whether they increase enough to replace Knuble’s lost production. Semin’s good enough to get 40+ on the 1st or 2nd lines.
by mechanicsville on Nov 15, 2010 11:52 AM EST reply actions
I think the same can be said of Fehr that can be said of Knuble here. Even Laich, to an extent. All of which highlights the “depth at C” problem.
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He [Alzner]‘d probably have gotten an up arrow if he didn’t get ratted out for coloring his ’stache.
Erskine’s doing the same thing. Compare the pic above to this and tell me there’s not some weird communal facial hair bonding thing happening.
"DON'T SAY THAT! Please! That is the worst, most stupid thing anyone could say! Cause it quite clearly isn't "only a game." I mean if it was do you honestly think I'd care this much?"
Carlson needs to get on board with that so you can at least see that he has 4 hairs growing above his lip.
by vtcapsfan99 on Nov 15, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
I think AO deserves a down arrow at last. He averages 5+ shots a game in his career or something, and only has 4 over the last three when he should have 4 times as many. Not good enough. Even in terms of goals, he only had one, right? Rest were helpers.
While I would feel silly giving a guy with his points a down, I wholeheartedly agree.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Nov 15, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
I think AO deserves a down arrow at last.
Update your signature line then, homie.
"DON'T SAY THAT! Please! That is the worst, most stupid thing anyone could say! Cause it quite clearly isn't "only a game." I mean if it was do you honestly think I'd care this much?"
by Bald Pollack on Nov 15, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Two goals. Seven points. Plus-five.
Hard to give that a down arrow, though I agree that he’s on cruise control right now.
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Its still one heck of a cruise control. Even when Ovi is in a slump he’s not this good.
Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."
Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.
This third periods lately have been unusually unimpressive
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by ThePeerless on Nov 15, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
two straight games with no shot attempts in the third period
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by ThePeerless on Nov 15, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
And 2 – 3rd periods of barely any minutes for the caveman
Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."
Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.
I’m with you, Peerless, in your analysis that there is something going on with AO that is not seeing the light of day. The shot attempts and the TOI are so out of step with his usual numbers, that something’s not right.
My initial suspicion, for which I have zero proof, is one of those “can’t-make-it-worse-by-playing-on-it” type of injuries.
But who knows, really? Could be a lot of things.
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Through his first 21 G last season, Ovechkin had 30 points (18/12) and averaged ES TOI at 16:40.
Through 18 G to start this season, Ovechkin has 25 points (10/15) and is averaging 16:27 ES TOI.
He’s leading the team in hits, on pace for another 110 point season, distributing the play more, and looking “reckless” less—1/4 of the way into a long season that means Ruutu.
As BB said about another Russian he coaches, ‘sometimes people just grow up’.
There's no 'i' in "team". But there's a 'nap' in "champion".
Those numbers show why I like the Carebears being re-united — if teams want to commit so hard to Ovechkin, the chemistry between the two Alex generally causes the other team to get burned.
Many a night from yonder ivied casement, ere I went to rest,
Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.
I can’t see that those numbers say anything about care bears?
There's no 'i' in "team". But there's a 'nap' in "champion".
I can. Semin has been the best Cap this season. If Knuble was on that wing I easily think AO’s numbers come down quite a bit.
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I’d agree, but… I’d like to see how much increased production the team would get out of a Semin-led second line. In other words, what’s the net effect of the first line with and without Semin? Obviously I’d prefer the alignment that’s better for the team, even if it’s not the option that produces the most impressive numbers for AO, Nick and Sasha.
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I agree, I was just addressing the effects on AO’s numbers. If Semin could carry the second line and keep producing then that might be better in the long run. But if Semin starts disappearing on the second line and then we have none of our studs clicking then it’s a bit of a tougher decision.
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They already have. Ovie was setting Knubs up a number of times during his “snakebit” period of time. He could easily have a few more assists.
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by Davethecapsfan on Nov 15, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
A lot of Ovechkin’s assists come off of rebounds, generally speaking. This year Ovechkin has been shooting less, but still getting points. He’s averaging, so far, about a half shot less a game yet averaging just a tad bit more assists per game. Semin has been getting to soft spots and Ovechkin has been able to give him great chances. Semin and Backstrom have both been good at getting on rebounds too. I don’t see Knuble as a necessity right now when the line is playing good hockey and not over-passing.
Many a night from yonder ivied casement, ere I went to rest,
Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.
It’s funny seeing those numbers and watching him on ice. He probably should have even more assists than he does this year but Knubs just couldn’t find the net for that long stretch. If it’s an injury or apathy problem, I’m worried about it a little. If it’s him trying to tweak his game some and save some gas for the long haul, I’m much less concerned.
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by Davethecapsfan on Nov 15, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
I do not believe Ovechkin has much capacity for apathy on the ice. I think he’s both developing a smarter, more sustainable game AND ailing in some way. But the fact he’s not doing his Human Cannonball / Scattergun thing looks to have a bigger impact on Fan Speculation than it has on the bottom line.
There's no 'i' in "team". But there's a 'nap' in "champion".
It’d be nice if he could stop worrying me with his 6th-best-on-the-Caps Corsi. I don’t care how he changes his game, as long as he keeps scoring and stays territorially dominant. So far so good on the first, not so much on the second.
by red army line on Nov 15, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. I just wonder what it’s like to try to change your game when your game’s that Big. If the guy’s going to drag his 6th-best-on-the-Caps Corsi around while he and his mates adapt to a truly-diversified size 8 game, well…
That could be a really cool thing to watch, come the spring.
There's no 'i' in "team". But there's a 'nap' in "champion".
It makes me giddy to think—what if this is his transition from Lindros/Forsberg to a more durable version of Zetterberg?
by red army line on Nov 15, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
I have been vocal that I think AO has been off, but I think the shots critique is a bit misleading. His shots came down the last two years, and before people would say “he’s so selfish he only shoots!” Now he passes more and people are knocking him for not shooting. He can’t really win on this one.
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Sure he can. If AO is getting four shots on goal every three games, he’s not doing enough. We’re not talking about him dialing it back to four SOGs per game here, we’re talking about him being ineffective at what he does best – getting pucks on (and in) net.
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Agreed there is a line where at that point he needs to be shooting more. But F&B has a point that he’s already got certain media members on him they will roast him for either shooting too much or being ineffective because he isn’t shooting enough.
Remember Game 7 against Philly? Couple minutes left in the 3rd, Ovie picks up a turnover dead center just inside the blue line, Biron came out high to challenge and he winds up looking for a shot but sees Fed swinging out to one side of Biron at the last second and tries a slap pass instead. Fed (like everyone else in existence) was expecting Ovie to just shoot it there and maybe be in position for a rebound, etc. If he looks up and sees the pass he has a layup of a redirect to win the game and the series. After that I saw numerous people asking why “the most dangerous offensive player in the world” decides to not take the responsibility because the pressure got to him or whatever. If Feds taps that in Ovie gets praised as being so unselfish and making the right play to win his team the series. As it turned out, he got slightly vilified for not taking the shot himself.
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by Davethecapsfan on Nov 15, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
Even is he is passing, his line mates don’t dominate corsi like they would in the past. Like I said above, he’s an 8.8 corsi reel, which is behind Laich, Semin, Backstrom, Green, and Schultz I think (plus MP). Not even close to how good he can be.
by red army line on Nov 16, 2010 4:56 AM EST up reply actions
Has anyone checked the archives to see if Erskine and Sloan:
a) had up arrows in the same week?
b) were the only D that had up arrows in a single week?
Erskine definitely deserved it. Sloan, I’m iffy about, but I’ll accept it.
What does it take for this board to reverse from the mantra of needing another D (assuming Poti comes back soon)? I feel the love for Erskine, but has it gone that far?
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What does it take for this board to reverse from the mantra of needing another D (assuming Poti comes back soon)? I feel the love for Erskine, but has it gone that far?
Erskine and Sloan could play like vintage Stevens and Niedermayer and this team would still need at least one more D to be able to fill-in for injured players.
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I understand the “just in case” argument, but I struggle a bit as to why Sloan isn’t the “just in case” D for an injury. Your eighth and ninth D aren’t, almost by definition, NHL-caliber and are serviceable for only a few games.
If I’m going to make a trade, I would go for a new 2C/3C before I went for an eight D.
That much said, if you want to lament our lack of D in the system to provide support near term, I would agree.
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If I’m going to make a trade, I would go for a new 2C/3C before I went for an eight D.
I don’t see the two moves as mutually exclusive, though clearly I’d agree that an upgrade to a position on the depth chart that will play nearly every game is more important than an upgrade to one that won’t play often at all.
As for why to get an 8th/9th/10th D, history says you’ll need ’em at some point.
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You don’t trade for an 8D. You trade for a 4/5D and then push everyone else down.
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by Rob Parker on Nov 15, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
If GMGM were to ship out someone on the team, he might be able to package another player/prospect/pick to ascertain a 6/7D. . .which wouldnt be too bad
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That makes more sense. Couldn’t get my head around acquiring an 8D.
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What does it take for this board to reverse from the mantra of needing another D
Actually getting another D. As noted, the team has very little depth at the position. Even if you are comfortable with 52-55, 27-74 and 3-4, it’s a big risk to assume they will all be healthy come crunch time. Sloan, Fahey don’t give me the warm fuzzies long term.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Nov 15, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
you never know when someone’s gonna catch a puck (or a fist/elbow) in the face and cause them to miss games.
LET'S GO CAPS!!!
. . . in the playoffs when you don’t have time to gradually introduce someone new into a pairing without getting shelled and bounced out YET AGAIN. (to continue this line of thinking)
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by war_capitals on Nov 15, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
If more than 2 D men can’t play, Fahey has to play. Fahey is not an NHL’er. They really need a cheap greyhair to come in and play/eat nachos.
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It’s Fahey for now, until Patrick McNeill comes back from injury. Though I wonder if they’ll consider giving Zach Miskovic a try.
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Who was playing the blueline in the late fall of 2008? I think it was Schultz, Alzner, Collins, Sloan, Helmer, and Green. Can’t be too much worse than that.
by red army line on Nov 15, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
A thought: Phil Oreskovic. He’s currently playing in Hershey on an AHL one-way (or maybe an AHL/ECHL two-way), but he’s a 23-year-old defenseman with good size and an edge to his game and 10 games worth of NHL experience.
The Caps could also pick up Nathan Paetsch from the Canucks for a song (though he’s on a one-way deal, which would subject him to reentry waivers).
What’s the knock on Oreskovic? And do we really want to have another kid on the D corps?
I think VAN has to bring Paetsch up through re-entry before he can be traded, so it wouldn’t be our risk and if we wanted him we’d get him for free (if nobody else wanted him).
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The knock on Oreskovic has always been his skating; he’s not exactly the most mobile of defensemen. It’s OK down at the AHL level, but he can get beaten pretty badly by NHL forwards. That being said, I get the impression that his demotion in Toronto was more a factor of Burke bringing in guys like Komisarek, Beauchemin, Phaneuf, and Aulie, who subsequently pushed him way down the depth chart.
That being said, he’s probably not an improvement over Sloan at this point, and at the point where he’s getting a contract and getting called up, it means that the blue line has been so decimated by injuries that GMGM is crossing his fingers and hoping to get two or three points in the four games Mike Green will be out.
Still not optimal — I don’t see anyone coming up from Hershey and playing like they belong there.
They need some guy who is cheap but still dependable to eat up bottom pairing minutes and can teach Carlson how not to be undressed by Vanek. Someone like Niedermayer circa last season who has enough in his tank for another season (but obviously not with that cap hit, just someone old and not terrible that came to mind)
The future is bright with 52-55/74-27 but they definitely need a veteran presence who can keep Sloan up in the box. Just need to find someone who doesn’t cost much and is easily expendable for when they do find a more permanent solution.
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Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.
just someone old and not terrible
Do you really want one of these that is also cheap? I’m not sure that’s any better than Fahey or that they even exist.
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I’m not holding my breath, but there has to be someone out there. Roloson is that guy if you were looking for a goalie, Recchi is that guy if you were looking for a forward. Just fire up an NHL players list and scroll down to the Rs and see who plays D, I guess.
Many a night from yonder ivied casement, ere I went to rest,
Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.
The Bruins will be in the playoff hunt all year (if not near the top of the East), so I doubt if Recchi is available. Roloson, on the other hand, will be.
And when NYI falls out then Wysniewski, Juice, and Martinek all become available. There are a lot of D that will be available as the season goes. C? Not so much.
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With Juice on IR right now and with his IR time last year, would he be healthy enough to be worth bringing back? Other than to make Semin happy
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Yeah, not commenting on availability just saying there are guys out there that fit the criteria. It’d be worth it in my mind to keep Sloan from getting a sweater in the playoffs but not costing the team any appreciable amount of money while giving the younger guys someone to learn from.
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