2009 NHL Trade Deadline Open Thread I
by J.P. on Mar 4, 2009 7:00 AM EST
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[The current open thread can be found here]
Alright, here's how this is going to work. This post is going to stay at the top of the page until the trade deadline and we're all going to talk about the day's goings-on in the comments (basically, it'll be a live blog in the comments).
As big trades happen, we'll post links below this post and you can discuss them in detail there be talking about them in the comments, and as Caps trades happen, we'll have separate posts with extensive analysis, natch.
Finally, here are a few quick reference links:
- Mirtle's list of UFAs
- Salaries at NHL Numbers and that other site, as well as our spreadsheet on the Caps' salaries
- Our list of Caps' draft picks for the next two drafts
So hang in there and enjoy the day - it's sure to be an exciting one.
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First big news of the day:
One of the more prominent names on the trade block is officially off-limits, as the Anaheim Ducks have taken defenceman Chris Pronger off the market.
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Spot on, though I think Havelid meant the Devils weren’t headed in that direction and the B’s are too close to the cap to make that one happen without some serious shuffling.
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Real Estate Agent: Look, nobody’s going to buy your house for what you paid for it. The value of your house has dropped. And if you leave it out on the market any longer at that price, people are going to think something’s wrong with it because it’s been on the market for so long.
Homeowner: OK, take it off the market. Maybe we can put it back on the market this summer if it’s more of a buyer’s market then…
by Gould Old Days on Mar 4, 2009 8:10 AM EST up reply actions
GOOD
At least that means that the Devils or Bruins don’t get ahold of him, and that makes me happy. I don’t think we can afford him – Morris seems much more likely to me. As much as I like the idea of Pronger, Morris passes the sniff test.
I’d love to see Sean O’Donnell join the Caps. After last night’s loss, the Kings are 13th in the west and 7 back from a playoff spot . Maybe they’ll finally give up on this season and focus on next.
by Gould Old Days on Mar 4, 2009 8:31 AM EST up reply actions
An FYI on Tomas Kaberle:
The Toronto Maple Leafs defenceman – already the subject of trade rumours – suffered a hand injury in the third period of Tuesday’s 3-2 overtime loss to the New Jersey Devils. The injury is to the same hand that he broke in January, which caused Kaberle to miss 13 games.
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I can tell you why.
Kaberle’s a power play quarterback and an offensive defenseman. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a good defenseman, but he’s not really what I think we need.
Isn't that
exactly why you make the guy a healthy scratch? It’s not like the league doesn’t already know that he can play.
Yup. If that injury costs them a deal, Brian Burke’s not going to be happy.
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It didn't
No team was going to blow the doors off of Burke.
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
I wonder if he’s registered his displeasure on Twitter?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 7:53 AM EST reply actions
Lupul’s the rich man’s Jon Sim…he OWNS us. I would most certainly hope they would send him as far away as practicable. Is Bryzgalov really that much of an upgrade over Biron? Would Biron wave his no trade to go to PHX? I doubt it
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 8:07 AM EST up reply actions
Not sure how that deal makes sense for Phoenix.
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I think he is, plus he’s got another two years on his contract.
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Geez…I never realized their goalie situation was so bad…Biron, Nittymaki AND their AHL guy are all UFAs after this year…yikes!
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 8:23 AM EST up reply actions
Briere’s contract boggles my mind still to this day…I can’t even fathom that in the first 3 years of that deal, he’s making 26 million, and then another 21 million the three years after THAT.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 8:26 AM EST up reply actions
TSN's stream seems to be working
http://www2.tsn.ca/window/tradecentre.aspx
No third party feed needed, it’s working fine for me. Silly Canada.
by OvechkinLaichsSemin on Mar 4, 2009 8:18 AM EST reply actions
THANK YOU for the link!
Been doing the TOR/MON radio thing for the past three hours. Another cup of coffee and I keel over.
by Donny Rivette on Mar 4, 2009 8:36 AM EST up reply actions
Whats the general feeling down there? Pronger has so dominated the news that JayBo has been flying under the radar for me lately.
50-50. I’ve flipflopped on this so many time that my head is spinning. Most fans that I’ve talked to want to keep him through the season, but it ain’t happening.
by Donny Rivette on Mar 4, 2009 8:39 AM EST up reply actions
I agree with what the TSN panel is saying right now – you’ve gotta move Bouwmeester. You simply can’t let him walk for nothing.
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I disagree…making the playoffs is MUCH more important…they can’t move him if they don’t get anything substantial back for him, and who’s going to give something substantial for him? They would need immediate returns NOW, and what contender would do that? It would be cutting of their nose to spite their face
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
They’ll get something substantial for him.
Two key points:
1) Cats ain’t winning the Cup this year, with or without JayBo, so they need to either lock him up (not happening) or keep building for the future.
2) The Cats are more than just JayBo.
You just can’t let the most valuable asset on the market go for nothing. Ask the Thrashers how screwing up the deadline to make the playoffs one year works out.
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Or ask Ted what making the playoffs last year has done for the franchise’s bottom line this season. You can not overrestimate just how important it is for a team in the south Florida market to make the playoffs. I say unless they get absolutely blown away with a deal that helps them now, hold on to him. And let’s not forget, they can still trade JayBo’s rights for a first rounder in June.
Yeah but the Thrash still made the playoffs that year. Its killing them NOW, but they still made the playoffs. I’d take that any day.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah but the difference is that the Cats are adding the assets from a big trade instead of sending them out.
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
Will they get enough assets back to offset losing Bouwmeester? That’s my whole point…I don’t think they can do it and still make the playoffs
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
I think that they can and even if they don’t they still have turned they most marketable asset into something because that kid is walking July 1st.
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
They were a terrible team that got swept out of the playoffs and got stuck with Alexei Zhitnik and no Braydon Coburn.
The Panthers still make the playoffs without JayBo – they’re a good team with great goaltending and in a good position.
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They’re three points out of ninth with a murderous schedule ahead. JayBo has been an absolute stud for them during this run. Unless they get something great for him, they are not a lock by any stretch to make the playoffs.
Let me ask, if you are the Panthers and you aren’t going to keep young Jay Bo – why are you even bothering? He’s young, lock him up. If you don’t want to / can’t afford it, just move the team to Hamilton now.
Russian Machine Never Breaks
making the playoffs means $$
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
If that craps out, give this a try:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/habsvision
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they’re standing uncomfortably close to each other
by ns on Mar 4, 2009 8:58 AM EST up reply actions
Derek Morris
Let’s talk Morris for a minute.
Is he tough? He has one fight in the past two years and about as many hits per game as Mike Green.
Does he bring offense? His points-per-game this year is the worst of his career, the last three years have been his least productive as an NHLer, and his five goals and seven assists in 57 games looks a lot like Shaone Morrisonn’s three goals and eight assists in 55.
Does he bring experience? He has played as many playoff games in his career – seven – as most of these Caps played last year.
Would he make the blueline better if he bumps Juice or Ersky from the lineup? Sure. But someone convince me that he’s a huge upgrade over Shaone Morrisonn.
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I think you’ve stated before that Morrissonn is pretty much Kurt Sauer (as far as comparison goes). Does Morris play substantially more (and against better comp) than Sauer does?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 8:35 AM EST up reply actions
Sauer plays against tougher competition 5-on-5 and is on the ice for fewer goas.
Morris plays around 35 seconds more per game and is minus-13 worse than Sauer.
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I would say that this is mostly about price. If we can get him for a song (Ted Ruth), sweet. But it sounds to me like he’s being shopped as the Pronger alternative and that is just driving up the price.
Likely.
I think my point here is that if you move Mo in this deal, you’re not getting a hell of a lot better, and probably not getting better from a “value” point of view, and it does nothing to address the third D pairing.
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Experience
If you look at Morris’s stats, they’re not impressive. What he does bring is a lot of NHL experience to a defensive corp that is woefully young. With Poti out of the lineup last night, the Caps had one defenseman over 26 years old and that was Erskine at 28. That’s a recipe for disaster and lately it’s becoming more and more obvious. Having a guy who’s played 12 seasons on defense, even if he’s not a big scorer or hitter, would be extremely valuable. And yes, I’d take him over Morrisonn in a heartbeat.
But will the Yotes take Mo? I can’t imagine that they would. What would be the benefit to them. A lateral move to a guy that is overpaid that will be an RFA come the summer? I would need picks and youth. The Caps aren’t going to be giving that up if it isn’t an upgrade.
Probably not but I’m thinking they could move Mo to another playoff team that could use some defensive help and then they could make a trade for Morris that just involved picks and/or prospects.
I didn’t say Morris isn’t better than Mo(rrisonn). But I think the bigger problem here is that third pairing, and upgrading your #3/4 D without bumping the rest of the depth chart at all – and at the cost of $2m per annum of cap space – can’t be considered a significant improvement to the team overall.
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Completely unrelated ....
Am I the only person who thought that the girl chosen in the Sing-Off was absolutely horrid? Pretty, nice voice, but her pitch sense was ATROCIOUS.
She was hotter then every other person that’s ever gone up there so in my eyes she’s an upgrade (not to my ears though) but I’ll take it.
Sometimes being a classically trained vocalist is sometimes a curse, and last night was one of those times. I’m considering submitting a tape myself if THAT was the best they could come up with
Her phrasing was horrendous…needs to learn when to take a breath. Easy on the eyes though, obviously that’s why she was up there. Coulda sworn I saw her look up for the words at one point as well.
I’d rather hear “Double Trouble” than ANYTHING by Rush
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I’m not a huge Rush guy.
They actually were my favorite band for a while in high school, but then my dad got a job. Zing!
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I guess you weren’t in a “rush” to get any of their albums?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
Heh.
I could go on all day. Seriously, I could, but I won’t. Instead I’ll pick up a USB microphone and submit a tape myself and see what they think.
Panger and McGuire currently pooping on Jose.
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Panger should would know how to rate a short goalie, no?
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Did they say anything of value, or just rip JT60?
I have a feeling they ripped him for the loss yesterday.
Just saying the Caps can’t win with him. They’re a pretender as long as he’s the G, unless they get Bouwmeester (huh?).
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A pretender? What if I say he’s not like the others? Have they considered that??
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 9:12 AM EST up reply actions
Screw Maguire and Pang
They can dump on him all they want, but if Theo is in goal last night I’m thinking it’s an entirely different game. I’m not blaming Neuvirth. He was thrown into a tough situation and, unfortunately, didn’t measure up.
Goal Celebration
Totally off topic, but how embarrassing was that goal celebration after Fed scored? Bruce was steaming about it and deservedly so. Can you imagine what Cherry would have said if AO were involved in that fiasco?
Yeah….strange Fed celebration…replay showed it was an awkward fall….Also noticed the mock jump into the glass by Stall after the goal…gonna get ugly. I think the OV leap started out as a natural reaction….others are willing to throw it back.
can’t pick on Ovi’s game so they harp on his celebration/enthusiasm. stay classy, Staal.
by ns on Mar 4, 2009 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, the fall was awkward, but Feds had his stick in the air real quick. Silly.
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It was horrible. Embarrassing is exactly the word.
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And good on Boudreau for calling them out on it:
“We just made it 5 to 2, and we’re jumping on each other like we just won an overtime game. I’m sure if I were on the Carolina bench I’d be going, ‘Look at these idiots.’”
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by J.P. on Mar 4, 2009 9:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Brett Clark
I have nothing to support it but can’t shake the notion the Caps are interested in Brett Clark. I just think he fits the bill for this team…he has one year left @ 3.5 so it would mean a salary dump, but he could always be moved on draft day.
Just looked him up, looks like a solid stay at home D but nothing much written on him, he’ll eat up ice time and block a ton of shots. Who do you think we’d trade for him?
Not sure we could make this trade unless we moved a roster player, but I think he would be the same cost as Derek Morris.
by ThreePingPost on Mar 4, 2009 9:16 AM EST up reply actions
Btw, after I sit here all day, who’s going to come over and massage my ass?
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Yeah. Is getting an ass massage infidelity?
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Was anyone else disappointed by Mirtle’s list? All he did was pick UFAs… you think that BJ is on the block?
I'm pretty sure
Jimmy’s list is just an overview of all the UFAs since they are traditionally the most likely to get moved. I don’t think he’s necessarily saying that Johnny et al. are actually ON the block
Trade Deadline should be an excused absence from my classes. As it stands, I got to English, found out my term paper was due (that I thought was due Friday), so I told him I had to run and get it and left. Guess I’m taking one more class!
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Concur
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
So what is the damage? Toronto rioting and looking for Burke’s head now that Kaberle got injured last night?
Nope
Kaberle was never getting traded. Waiting until the draft just makes too much sense.
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
Finally, someone made a move! The Sicilian Defense – good choice.
Can’t actually play this out, though… heading off to work (which has no internet access!), but I just wanted to see if anything had happened so far this morning.
I see the answer is “not yet.”
I have as many wins in a Capitals uniform as Michael Belhumeur does.
No kidding. The guys on TSN are talking about whether it damages the integrity of the game to scratch guys who are about to be traded.
They have about 68 analysts getting paid by the hour. They need something to happen.
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
Honestly, it’s a fair point. They’re really arguing that you should take less to stay in Toronto.
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Meh
If you talk about bleeding blue and white and you want to play nowhere other than Toronto than prove it.
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
Something better happen before 12
I gotta go to a meeting. And I don’t think they’re going to let me sleep through it…bs
They dropped Halpern’s name as available. I selfishly want Captain Jew back.
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J-Bo
Haven’t heard J-Bo to VAN until now.
http://tsf.waymoresports.thestar.com/thestar/hockey/se-news.cgi?blog-deadline&x_SEID=34&x_SEType=2
Malkin to the Kings guy was reporting that too…not sure if I buy it
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
Btw, it’s positively insane how much time they’re devoting to Dominic Moore and his 12 goals on TSN.
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and 29 assists!
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
That, in a nutshell, is why people hate the Leafs
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I hate it when the teams with the most fans get the most time on a commercial broadcast that is aiming to pull in the most viewers.
Damn that’s annoying.
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
Its why people hate the Yankees too
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah
At least the Leafs can’t buy the league (or couldn’t do it properly before). Imagine if they won a Cup? Seriously, imagine it because it won’t happen otherwise
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
Doesn’t seem help the Yankees any…they haven’t won a title in almost 10 years despite spending more than anybody
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
As long as your fans continue to pay league high prices for the dreck thrown on the ice you have you’re going to keep getting it.
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Blame the Fans?
I don’t have all day to explain why that is so wrong-headed but here’s the coles notes:
- One corporate box = 1 entire section of the upper bowl.
- just over a third of the Leafs’ revenues come from tickets
- The largest fanbase in the league
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
Are “coles notes” Canadian Cliff Notes?
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Canadian Cliff Notes are Fletcher’s dandruff
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
Yes
They actually are.
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
They mix it with John Ferguson Jr.’s magical tears and tell the future that way
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
But then it tells us that Lenny killed King Duncan. It’s all messed up.
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t really “blame” the fans, but the reasons the Leafs struggle is likely the same reason that the Redskins struggle.
Can't we get Chris Bourque a red jersey now? Thanks.
Well
We don’t have an insane owner that thinks he’s playing fantasy hockey.
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah
But as much as I hate Peddie and Tanenbaum I can’t compare them to Daniel Snyder.
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
I’m biting my tongue to avoid making a very out of taste joke/not joke.
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Do it
I don’t care as long as it’s not about the fans.
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
I’ve always thought that Dany Heatley killed the wrong Dan Snyder.
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Ouch…LOL
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
WOW!
Wow. That is so bad and funny I can’t help but laugh.
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
Not anymore
They hired Brian Burke. They’re smart now.
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
My fiancee last night asked if TSN stood for Toronto Sports Network. I answered that I wasn’t sure, but wouldn’t be surprised.
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More or less. People think Toronto is the country’s capital. It’s kind of an important city.
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
It's the same thing
for NYC. I have honestly heard people, (my wife’s extended family) say they live in the capital of the US. It’s hard to convince them that Brighton Beach is pretty far from “capital” material.
Toronto people don’t think that. Foreigners do ;)
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
Actually, the cool thing now is to say how much Toronto sucks and Vancouver is awesome. Even for Torontonians.
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
hahaha
Yeah, or the “China is a corrupt nation” anti-bump.
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
I believe that is what you folks are feeling right now…
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
I can proudly say I did, while draped in my German flag singing “Einigkeit und Rechts und Freiheit” when that 19 year old beat the 42 year old American woman in swimming.
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Old people suck.
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
As do Germans…and German Titov
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
Konrad Adenauer FTW…
Actually, wasn’t he Austrian?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
Germans have a habit of claiming Austrians as our own. See: Mahler, Mozart, Bach…
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And that other guy right? I think his name rhymes with “Smitler”?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
Ha
If anything my Hungarian roots should be claiming the Austrians. We were a powerful tag-team for awhile.
(Awaiting obvious joke)
My fiancee is of Hungarian descent…they don’t mess around
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
It’s ok – they also have the habit of having Austrians mistaken as their own. See: Hitler…
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It's the same cry
Everyone makes when NBC rotates between the only 4/5 teams they show all year. NYR, Det, Bos, Phl, Pitt.
Yeah
And it’s just as pointless.
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
Rimouski?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
Well, since you Americans love Socialism so much now ;)
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
We’re just trying to be like you guys.
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hahaha
It’s worked out well. Time for me to get my daily checkup and my state-rationed cheese.
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
Hey
It tastes great in our government-back Kraft Dinner.
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
You shouldn’t be proud of ignorance ;)
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
He’s the brother of the guy Bertuzzi crippled. Duh.
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Duh
He’s the guy that ran over Brad May on March 4th at 4pm…
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
Brilliance from “Brian Burke” on Twitter:
Told Kaberle we’d move him last night. Thanked him for his service and gave him a firm handshake. In hindsight, it might have been too firm.
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the Its Always Sunny In Philadelphia theme music during the Tim Horton’s commercial is really screwing me up.
Somehow just heard it for the first time. Nice call (and great show).
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Hell I’d take the puck next to him.
by OvechkinLaichsSemin on Mar 4, 2009 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
Only if he dances like teenage Screech (the Eagle, not the Saved by the Bell guy)
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
he IS multi-talented, and seriously, we already moved the Expos over here…i’m sure Youppi wouldn’t mind a reunion. he could work the Nats and Caps games.
by ns on Mar 4, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
Off-topic crazy story:
Ask the most hard-core baseball fan about John C. Odom and most likely you’ll get a blank stare. Yet millions of people have heard of the slender right-hander.
He was “Bat Man” or “Bat Guy” or “Bat Boy,” the minor league baseball player traded for 10 maple bats.
It became a big joke last May when word of the unusual swap jumped off the sports pages, and the former San Francisco Giants prospect went from pitcher to punch line.
“People are like, ’I’d kill myself’ and stuff,” Odom said at the time, dismissing any such notion.
Three weeks after the trade, he abruptly left the team.
Six months after the trade, he was dead.
The medical examiner said Odom’s death in Georgia on Nov. 5 at age 26 was an accidental overdose from heroin, methamphetamine, the stimulant benzylpiperazine and alcohol.
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WHOA!
I wonder when the family will sue the team for wrongful death?
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
heroin, methamphetamine, and benzylpiperazine would be a great name for a fantasy hockey team
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 9:49 AM EST up reply actions
I thought that was the Habs’ second line. Zing!
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starting outfield for the 1986 New York Mets
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
Winstrol was the catcher, and Deca Durabolin played first base
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
More or less
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
Terrible
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
Chris Neil could be headed to SJ, per TSN.
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No you wouldn't...
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
A Leafs fan saying that makes me think I want him more.
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Nope
He’s an embarrassment and he has lost the flash of utility he used to have. Two years ago he would have been a great pickup.
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
I think he’d be a decent fit here. I don’t love the way he plays the game, but he’s useful.
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I agree. For a rental, you could do a lot worse than him. He would have made a big difference the last two games.
Not if you expected hitting or fighting.
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
The trouble is that they have the top 3 that they can’t move. They have to win now.
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by PPP on Mar 4, 2009 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
Shurely you jesht.
/Murray’d
"Good crowd out there tonight, boys, let's really try to win this one."
NODONNELL
Shit, the Kings resigned Sean O’Donnell (so says Puck Daddy). I thought he would have been a great fit.
Sigh...
I’m starting to wonder if these numbers will change at all today:
by OvechkinLaichsSemin on Mar 4, 2009 9:54 AM EST reply actions
“Contract Extended (for amount team is going to regret later):”
by Gould Old Days on Mar 4, 2009 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
Once the first one goes down, I expect a ton to go in a fast time.
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Same thing happens when you cruise in Fells Point
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
*** Trade Alert ***
Ottawa sends Vermette to CBJ for Leclaire.
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by J.P. on Mar 4, 2009 9:56 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Isn’t Leclaire still hurt? Columbus is smoking the Dubie right?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
Its a good salary dump for them anyway…Mason’s the guy there now
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
I think Morris is getting more expensive by the hour here.
Kuba, Kaberle, and Pronger are off the market.
I think that might lower his price. With fewer other players, teams may relax on what they’re willing to give up.
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Depends on how many teams are bidding on him
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
You’ve clearly never studied economics.
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He did skip class today.
It does make teams feel less likely to respond though. Philly getting Morris doesn’t require the same response as Philly getting Pronger.
I went to class. And then I got up and left. Is that really skipping?
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We had an assignment “Read another person’s essay and critique it.” I didn’t bring an essay.
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I recommend you select one of DMG’s posts from the last week and critique it. You know, for practice.
by Gould Old Days on Mar 4, 2009 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
I haven’t.
But I’d argue against supply and demand here.
If there’s 1 guy out there, as opposed to four, I’m not giving up as much to get the 3rd guy in a 4 guy race. I’ll take my chances with the team I have if I can’t get him cheap.
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The flip side of that is that now if you get Morris you’re the one team that has made a significant defensive upgrade and it gives you a competitive advantage.
Yeah, but I’d rather get Sauer than Morris. I don’t think he’s a huge upgrade.
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As I was discussing above, I only think Morris is a significant upgrade if it’s over Juice or Erskine (or Kronwall, obviously). If it’s a swap for our Mo, I think it’s a minor upgrade at too high a ($) cost.
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Yeah, but I don’t see how you pick the guy up without giving Mo up.
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Kronwall?
I thought he was pretty solid last night. What’s your beef? No, seriously, I ask a hockey-educated man.
And can def see the potential in him
but we’ve got way too little to go on. He did look decent last night, but the other outings…not so much. Maybe with more time in the system etc…
And supply and demand only work consistently if you assume rationality.
These are Hockey GMs we’re talking about…
by Gould Old Days on Mar 4, 2009 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
From PHX’s end, if ive got 4 guys bidding against each other, that only helps me
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
I probably shouldn’t be spending my day on SBN for the trade deadline, but considering Comcast Cable isn’t getting NHL Network free, and the quality of postings on this networks, this is the best place to go. Damn you SBN!
Was just about to ask where I could find the TSN trade site, thank you.
by CapitalsKremlin on Mar 4, 2009 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
It’s my four year anniversary with the GF and while she’s working out the details on our trip to Syracuse…I’m on SBN uh “working” on “stories”
by CapitalsKremlin on Mar 4, 2009 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
Why on earth are you going to Syracuse?
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She got accepted to law school there, and we’re finding a place for her to stay, get acquainted with the area and I’ll probably look for some media outlets that need a writer in case I decide to move along and freeze my ass off.
by CapitalsKremlin on Mar 4, 2009 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
Word of advice: makes sure to stop by Dinosaur BBQ. You’d never expect a good BBQ joint in the middle of Central NY, but it’s damn good.
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I hear a lot of fossils eat there
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
Except you’re still in CNY, where the Carrier Dome and Carousel Center Mall are the two big tourist attractions.
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Well maybe I’ll get lucky, write for the Syracuse Crunch or Binghampton Senators.Binghampton’s where my Dad started his journalism career, so it’s only right/creepy that I may end up in NY too.
by CapitalsKremlin on Mar 4, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
You better get Center Ice, cause I’d miss the hell out of your posts.
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I think that would be my signing bonus if I tag along with her. Otherwise, no deal.
by CapitalsKremlin on Mar 4, 2009 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah maybe I should out for more, a couple of incentive based contracts, and then a NMC. It worked for Nylander!
by CapitalsKremlin on Mar 4, 2009 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
Better make it a long term deal because I feel like she’s going to have the upper hand soon with the law school and all.
Are you going to be a UFA or an RFA?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
We hit four years today, so I guess I’m a UFA after this contract expires.
by CapitalsKremlin on Mar 4, 2009 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
Eh she wants to stay in VA and we’re still waiting on U.R. I have a feeling U.R. will win out because it’s closer to home and she won’t have to deal with “lake effect.”
I’ll cross my fingers.
by CapitalsKremlin on Mar 4, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
As long as you avoid New Kent and the Col. Bojangles statue.
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Ever see people gathered around the JEB Stuart Statue? They were out there a few weeks ago with a bunch of candles and confederate flags. I facepalmed.
by CapitalsKremlin on Mar 4, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah I attend VCU, and she went here with me, so we both love it here. 2 hours to the Caps, 2 hours to the beach, not bad at all.
by CapitalsKremlin on Mar 4, 2009 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
I blame the trade deadline being dormant
by CapitalsKremlin on Mar 4, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah I remember spending a month in Schenectady N.Y. and thinking it was some of the best summer weather I’ve ever been in. So that’s a plus.
by CapitalsKremlin on Mar 4, 2009 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
They ALWAYS need writers, especially if you have experience in either proposal writing or technical writing, and I wouldn’t say no to a referral bonus :)
Ugh... you have to be REALLY looking
I know times are tough but avoid CACI if you can. Also, whatever contract you get placed on, list THAT on your resume not CACI.
I toss every resume I see if the person has worked for CACI in the past 4 years.
But these are some scary times and a paycheck is a paycheck….
Interesting. Care to elaborate?
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I can only speak for technical jobs
but a lot of the other IT Directors and CIOs that I know do the same. We all have had the same bad experience hiring out of CACI.
CACI is a NOTORIOUSLY horrible employer. They grossly underpay their people. They use their warm bodies employees as commodities to plug holes on their contracts. And they win a lot of contracts because they can always underbid most other companies since they cheap out on everything (plus they used to have one of the top 5 lobbyists in DC working for them to land contracts, though I’m not sure that’s still the case as he has since switched Firms).
When the market was flourishing (and I realize that it no longer is) anyone with reasonably marketable skills and or professional ambition got out of CACI as soon as they could with ALL KINDS of bad war stories to tell about it.
Its just a cancer mark on the resume. Unless they are one of the exceptions with a story like “I moved to the area from Colorado and landed a job at CACI but I’m really looking for something more {insert euphemism for ”unlike a Dante-esque government zombie-shop where high-end skills go to die""
I realize as I’m typing this that I’m probably about to offend any number of Japers’ Rinksters that currently work for CACI, but if you have a good gig that works for you then go for it. I’m just telling you how the firm is perceived outside of the GovCon world.
I don't work there
Just curious about your position. Seems like you don’t like CACI, not the people who work there. They gave me an offer yesterday and I told them I’m not leaving unless I get $X. they said they’ll let me know before the end of the week. I don’t think they’re going to come through since my $X was about $10k more than they were “budgeting” for. But I ain’t drivin to B’more for less.
I dont like CACI
and am suspicious of people that work there. I have had exactly ONE success story of hiring someone that worked for CACI. Everyone else brought an under-motivated and often under-skilled mindset that I wound up dealing with for months as a performance issue until I could fire them or they realized they needed to quit and go back to Gov Con work.
IT in top AmLaw 50 lawfirms is a thankless high-stress job and the people that I (and the dozen or so other Legal Directors I network closely with) have hired out of CACI do not transition well and just cause trouble on my teams.
Helpdesk, Engineers, DBAs, Messaging Experts, Citrix, Cisco, etc. Junior level to senior level it just always repeats itself so I no longer bother.
I’m probably missing out on the exceptions of good talented people that have passed through CACI buts its just not rolling the dice trying to find them.
Comment?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
Skills are easy to find, even in a tight market
(and the labor market is now FAR from tight)
More important is fit, attitude, ambition, professionalism, service-orientation for client facing roles, work ethic, initiative, etc.
And CACI is a fertile training ground for everything NOT TO BE in those areas.
Ummm, okay. I’m not HR but that seems like you’re going to exclude people just because they worked at CACI. Needless to say, there are certain, god I hate this term, “skill sets” that you just can’t pick up everywhere. Especially in the defense sector. Not to mention the fact that some people already have certain hard to obtain clearances that can cost a civilian company a pretty penny to get for them. Either way, I don’t work there and there are plenty of other contractors with needs.
And Leclaire’s salary, which tops off in his last year at 4.8 million
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
~30-35 minutes to hit media on that trade
i don’t really have any comment to share. just pointing it out.
by OvechkinLaichsSemin on Mar 4, 2009 10:03 AM EST reply actions
Other way around, I’d say – Auld might be able to challenge a healthy Leclaire.
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Yeah
A healtyh anyone could challenge Auld for the starting gig.
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I don’t think you could have done more to make me appreciate Theo, Varlamov and Neuvirth than write that last comment…
by Gould Old Days on Mar 4, 2009 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
“The Dominic Moore situation”
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You’re going to feel bad when he helps the Blackhawks get to the conference final…
not really. You’ll never feel bad.
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Anyone else laugh out loud at the Rico Fata comparison? If that’s what they really think of him…oy vey
by ThreePingPost on Mar 4, 2009 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
I also think they’ll rush BJ back knowing he’s a UFA; if he gets hurt even more, no loss in their eyes.
…probably up to BJ if he can even play though. Is a playoff push with a team that won’t resign him potentially worth a career? I think not…
by ThreePingPost on Mar 4, 2009 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
If not Bjork, maybe we can trade for a guy that looks like he plays in Sigur Ros
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
I haven't seen anything to like from Bjork
since Vespertine.
But I don’t think we sink precious cap $ in another goalie. I think we ride Theo and keep rolling the dice with the kids.
“Should the Sens try for Manny Fernandez?”
Lololol.
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Admin Note:
Let me know if this thread gets really slow for anyone, and I’ll open a new one.
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by J.P. on Mar 4, 2009 10:17 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
We’re on pace for 3,000 by the time the Caps make a trade.
by CapitalsKremlin on Mar 4, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
That seems pretty low for March 2010.
by OvechkinLaichsSemin on Mar 4, 2009 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
JP, the day is going extremely slowly for me. There’s only been one trade so far. Can you get them going?
by Gould Old Days on Mar 4, 2009 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
No rush for me.
I’m pulling sheet music and working on O Canada and watching the board. Y’all are a hoot :)
Laich v. Vermette
I know most (okay, all) of us would take Laich over Vermette any day of the week, but would the rest of the hockey intelligentsia? Pretty similar players (though obviously I think Laich is better). Considering Vermette landed an injured goalie and a second, what would Laich land on the open market?
Laich could get some picks and a role player I’d imagine, but I wouldn’t ever do that trade. Laich has intangibles and you don’t get those in every player.
by CapitalsKremlin on Mar 4, 2009 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed. Guy has leader written all over him, and I don’t want to see him in any other uniform.
by OvechkinLaichsSemin on Mar 4, 2009 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
He has future coach written all over him too.
by CapitalsKremlin on Mar 4, 2009 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
Except last night he said that the Caps were a lead by committee team… I’m not sure what Laich is waiting for if he is a leader in the making… now’s the time my friend, now’s the time.
Agreed. Someone needs to be screaming and throwing things.
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Here’s hoping for a … Clark trade?
by OvechkinLaichsSemin on Mar 4, 2009 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
I think Laich’s work ethic is probably widely considered to be better, but Vermette’s offensive upside is probably a little higher.
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JP, why haven’t you hired some agents to stake out Kettler each day!
by CapitalsKremlin on Mar 4, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
What I’d give to be a fly on the wall in the “windowless room” at Kettler.
by CapitalsKremlin on Mar 4, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
How is bitch 1 going to cover the Habs trading stuff from the Buffalo Sabres practice facility? Maybe that’s why she hasn’t heard anything.
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Hey now – way too misogynistic, WM.
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And Montreal is in Buffalo tonight
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
That’d answer it. My comment didn’t intend to bash her because she was a woman.
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Maybe he intended to write “mitch” but hit the wrong button?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
Nah.
Easy, man. You’re not. I’m a chick who works in a male-dominated field and likes hockey. I find that most of the time, guys don’t mean anything personal when they talk like that, and I just blow it off.
How isbitch 1that sportscaster going to cover the Habs trading stuff from the Buffalo Sabres practice facility? Maybe that’s whyshethe sportscaster in question hasn’t heard anything.
Better?
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The first change is better. The second one unnecessary.
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Regardless, wasn’t intended to be a sexist thing at all. I think some women are better than some men at the sportscaster position. Case in point, Sage Steele, even though she kept ramming the Ravens down my throat.
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Sure sure, saving your ass there. ;)
by CapitalsKremlin on Mar 4, 2009 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
That would be cool if Sage Steele had sisters named Parsley, Rosemary, and Thyme
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
If she married a guy named Fred Trap, she’d be “Steele-Trap”
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
I’d find a way to pay for his salary if he said “Baba Booey” at the end of it.
"Good crowd out there tonight, boys, let's really try to win this one."
by Bald Pollack on Mar 4, 2009 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
Pascal’s boring now that he got rid of his killer faux-hawk.
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That was one brutal headshot:
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Ol’ Rabbit Teeth
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
Looks less faux-hawk and more Alph-Alpha-ish.
by CapitalsKremlin on Mar 4, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t want my goalie playing in 12 consecutive games in any situation.
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Yes. Easily. It merited a teammate coming over and letting Pitkanen – and the rest of the League – know that’s not OK.
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Was Erskine on the ice? I’ve a feeling if he was, something would have happened. Remember how he went after Lucic.
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I don’t think so – pretty sure it was Green and partner (Schultz).
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Seriously. There needs to be at least two guys on the team willing to do that on the ice at any time.
I like to start a “Waive Brashear” chant in my living room during most games. Sadly, nobody else joins in…
by ThreePingPost on Mar 4, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, good thing Brashear stepped up like he has all season. 
by OvechkinLaichsSemin on Mar 4, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Derek Morris - no movement yet
What’s your take? Phoenix not getting what they want or does the bidding keep getting higher? Are we going to see something ridiculous going to the desert?
I think there’s a disconnect between what Phoenix thinks they can get for him and what teams are willing to give for him. At least, there should be.
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Related: Is Burke drunk? What a dick.
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What happen? i’m Not following live on TV
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
Nothing to exciting – a couple of one word answers, and a “none of your business.” His usual schtick.
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Burke said something like “that’s none of your business” and then “caught himself.”
by CapitalsKremlin on Mar 4, 2009 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Brian referenced an offer he had received
and the host butted in with “And what players were offered” and Brian snapped “None of your ..” and stopped short before finishing with “Fucking Business you talking head little prick!! Im Brian Burke!!! You hear me?? I AM BRIAN FUCKING BURKE you neutered little maggot!!! Just sit behind your desk and run your little pony show while those of us that knew how to run a hockey team RUN A GOD DAMNED HOCKEY TEAM!!!!!!!”
…or something…. anyway, nothing big.
No, I think he's funnier and laid back when he's drunk
But he did almost completely fire off a “None of your F***ing Business” right on the air.
Maybe I'm a little late...
But I’m done with Brashear. Too many times one of our stars has taken a cheap shot… And he hasn’t done anything. All he does now is occasionally brawl with another heavyweight.
I’d join that ‘waive brashear’ chant.
Come on now.. he… dumps the puck pretty well.. sometimes..I guess.
by OvechkinLaichsSemin on Mar 4, 2009 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
Hell, I could dump a puck. And I’d do it for cheaper than 1.2 million a year.
by Murshawursha on Mar 4, 2009 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
I wonder if it’s BB. To be able to do his job, Brash might need to take an instigating penalty now and then and I wonder if BB’s holding him back.
I was talking about that with my brother a while back. Sometimes they show Brash talking to BB on the bench and it almost looks like Brash is trying to justify going out and mucking it up…
by ThreePingPost on Mar 4, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
Couldn’t a conference call with Kevin Lowe have been arranged with Bri?
"Good crowd out there tonight, boys, let's really try to win this one."
Any producer worth his salt on TSN would have found some way to get those two on air together
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
Nyles to Columbus?
Puck Daddy sez
Why can’t the Blue Jackets ever just trade for a natural center? Your Adam Oates-like passer that doesn’t also play the other forward positions? I mean, Rick Nash has been waiting for that guy to walk through the door for years, and every single time the BJs end up trading for or signing some dude that “also plays a little center.” Oy … maybe it’s yet to come. And maybe Vermette will figure out how to produce again in a new city, because he has fewer goals than Manny Malhotra so far.
I’m probably way behind on this one, but would they take Nylander off our hands?
Nyles wife is not going to make today easy.
by CapitalsKremlin on Mar 4, 2009 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
Don’t need to now with the acquisition of Vermette
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
If Buffalo paid him $8m for two years, they’re insane.
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Buffalo keeps letting their good players get away. Sign they don’t want to do that anymore?
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It would be a sign they missed five years ago.
"Good crowd out there tonight, boys, let's really try to win this one."
by Bald Pollack on Mar 4, 2009 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Connolly makes Alex Semin look like Cal Ripken. Spend the money elsewhere – this guy’s made of glass.
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Here’s ESPN on Connolly:
2008-09: He missed 34 games, posted 26 points
2007-08: Missed 34 games; 40 points
2006-07: Missed 80; one point
2005-06: Missed 19; 55 points
2003-04: Missed 82; zero points
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Doesn’t Connelly miss half of every year with some horrific injuryt?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
They sent that sign when they matched EDM on Vanek. No need to be stupid now.
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Approximately $100,000 per game. Well done, Sabes.
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i think losing drury and danielle really made them skittish on letting top six forwards walk.
by MordecaiBrown3 on Mar 4, 2009 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Or maybe since Danielle is gone
there is just an empty spot in Ruff’s heart for a small talented under-performing center that spends rides the season-long merry-go-round on and off the IR.
Okay, you get one dream player of the current stock of trade bait for a bargain, who do you take?
by CapitalsKremlin on Mar 4, 2009 10:44 AM EST reply actions
are you really that high on Morris? I kind of agree with the conversation earlier that he doesn’t offer much over Mo relative to what we have
I forgot about J-Bo because (1) I don’t think he’ll be moved and (2) in reality it’s so out of reach for the Caps.
But after J-Bo, I would say Morris because I think the team really needs another defenseman.
If he goes somewhere, it won’t be the Caps. We’re lined up to face Florida right now, and with the streak Brodeur is on, we’re probably going to stay in that #3 slot.
by OvechkinLaichsSemin on Mar 4, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Who ever we can get for taking Nylander’s contract off our hands
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
“Wor, Wur, Wuhr War-Room.”
God good, we need a trade these guys are losing it.
by CapitalsKremlin on Mar 4, 2009 10:45 AM EST reply actions
Money sucks, but its a good length for Buffalo…I wouldn’t sign that guy to more than two years under any circumstances
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Phoenix has the potential to do really well today – with Kuba, Pronger off the market, Morris looks even nicer and with Connolly and Vermette off the market, Jokinen looks even nicer.
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Btw, looks like Feaster has been exactly that.
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I just realized ...
My fly has been down all morning.
How is this possibly the news of my day so far?
by OvechkinLaichsSemin on Mar 4, 2009 10:51 AM EST reply actions
As long as the horse stays in the barn, no reason not to let him get a little fresh air says I.
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Hmm. Good point. It’s not like I’m working with customers or anything.
I should probably put a shirt on though. My boss is jealous of my manly hair.
by OvechkinLaichsSemin on Mar 4, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Because Buffalo signed your fly to a 3 yr/$16m deal.
"Good crowd out there tonight, boys, let's really try to win this one."
by Bald Pollack on Mar 4, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Season 5 couldn’t come soon enough.
by OvechkinLaichsSemin on Mar 4, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
Not sure why, but I dig the girl on that show.
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Nice. Isn’t she married to one of the dudes on the show?
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or no.. not Charlie. Charlie is actually married to the Waitress.
by OvechkinLaichsSemin on Mar 4, 2009 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
Is it slow for you? It’s still flying for me.
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goes in spurts… takes 2 seconds to reload everything, then it will take 15 seconds to scroll… If I’m the only one don’t worry about it.
IE is ajax-retarded while firefox always runs smooth to me. just saying.
by OvechkinLaichsSemin on Mar 4, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
I’ll probably hook up a new thread around noon.
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Or the magic loogie…damn that Keith Hernandez
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
You mean the one that shoots Nylander in the foot and lands him on permanent LTIR?
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I blame TSN. Did they really need to start coverage at 8am?
by OvechkinLaichsSemin on Mar 4, 2009 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
Yes
Because the idiots at Sportsnet started at 8am.
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It’s an arms race. Next year, someone will start at midnight.
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Why wait until Deadline Day? Their tracker has deals from a week ago. Start a week early!
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VS has helped prepare some coverage with Turkey revolution followed by escape to the wild followed by infomercials.
Turkey revolution? That place needs another Kemal…they’ve gotten outta hand
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
We don’t like giving them that much time to organize in Canada so we take them down in October. One day waiting until November is going to bite (peck?) you guys in the ass.
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Sportscenter (it was on when I turned my TV on.. I swear!) put Semin’s goal as #1 play of the night.
by OvechkinLaichsSemin on Mar 4, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
surprised they found a way to fit that in between meaningless NBA highlights and 24/7/365 NFL talk
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
They referenced Ovechkin casually as if they expected viewers to know who he is.
by OvechkinLaichsSemin on Mar 4, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
Garrioch rumors:
l Flyers are still on Bouwmeester big time.
l The Sharks are the frontrunner.
l A lot of talk Steven Reinprecht may get dealt to the Hawks. He has a history with Joel Quenneville.
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Did he also bring up Malkin to the Kings?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
Any guesses on what the trade is going to be that causes the levy to break? I’m thinking J-Bo if he goes; if not I expect a big flurry starting at 1-1:30.
I agree. When Bouwmeester goes a lot of the defencemen will go as well.
I think a forward bigger than Vermette needs to go before more movement up front starts.
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Inside the Thrashers war room...
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by OvechkinLaichsSemin on Mar 4, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
I think the state of the economy is going to depress the demand for high-priced players and drive up the demand for cheaper/younger players and prospects. This could drive the number of trades down. It’s early though.
Could it be? Sure. But there’s still a ton of time left. Last year, I posted the Huet trade (the first of the three) at 11:51. Patience, grasshopper.
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Keith Jones: Key to beating the Caps is running Mike Green.
Sweet.
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dammit
that sentence should read “Run Mike Green and you can beat your bloody face against the business end of Donald Brashear’s fists and spend the nex tfive minutes in the box trying to simultaneously clot and work out the risk/reward value of EVER trying that again.”
…or “Brashear takes on your best goon and nothing else really happens…”
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Posted at 11:08 AM ET, 03/ 4/2009
Quick practice update
Defenseman Tom Poti, who was a late scratch last night because of a groin injury, is not on the ice for practice. Everyone else, including Jose Theodore — a late scratch because of the flu against Carolina — is out there.
Stay tuned. It could be an interesting day out here.
by OvechkinLaichsSemin on Mar 4, 2009 11:16 AM EST reply actions
The only deal I could have seen involving Poti would also involve Pronger, but…I don’t see that happening, especially now.
Poti for Bouwmeester? :P
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Unless they bring back another solid vet to replace Poti, that wouldn’t seem worth the UFA risk to me (and J-Bo is going to be too expensive to sign).
Theoretically possible eh?
I crack myself up. 
by OvechkinLaichsSemin on Mar 4, 2009 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
PLEASE let that be true
What else would we need to add to make that deal work? Fehr? ShaMo? Bourque?
Bouwmeester is already a top D-man and is still too young to be considered at his best. It would be a good fit for our core.
His agent would have to be half a retard to re sign him to any deal without letting him test the market first
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
I’m confused. There’s no possible way the team is trading Poti, right? And what would be the benefit?
Never say “no possible way,” but I have a hard team seeing a Poti move that makes sense.
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That’s pretty much the boat I’m in. I think it’s possible he moves for a defenseman with a bigger salary but I also think the Capitals are better keeping Poti and getting another top four d-man under the logic that two good players would be better than one great one in this scenario.
I agree. We need to improve the quantity of top-4 quality defensemen, not swap out to upgrade the ones we’ve got (unless it’s a Pronger-type upgrade).
Bingo, which is the argument against a “Morrisonn for Morris” trade.
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Bouwmeester to Capitals? (e3)
According to sources within the Florida Panthers organisation, the Washington Capitals are willing to part with D Tom Poti, LW Alexander Ovechkin and a 1st round pick to obtain the services of D Jay Bouwmeester. Remember, you heard it here first!
by OvechkinLaichsSemin on Mar 4, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Anyone else feel if they step away from the computer – you will miss a rash of trades?
I’m glued to my desk today.
Yes. Pee breaks when TSN goes to commercial only.
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Just had a power outage in RVA, (haven’t had strong power and heat all week) it’s back on, what did I miss?
by CapitalsKremlin on Mar 4, 2009 11:23 AM EST reply actions
Malkin to the Kings
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Anyone remember… I think it was two years ago, when TSN did their Free Agent Frenzy webcast thing that they hyped up for weeks, and then a grand total of one contract (and a minor one at that) got signed during their show, right at the end?
Course as soon as they went off the air, Gomez and Drury signed and the whole Nylander fiasco started. But yeah, I can’t help but feel like today may turn out something like that.
Let’s just say I have an exam at noon and it’s up in the air as to whether or not I’m going.
by Murshawursha on Mar 4, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Jokinen to Calgary sounds close, per Bob Mac.
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Better Jokinen to Calgary than Jokinen to the east.
Can't we get Chris Bourque a red jersey now? Thanks.
Nah…they got some good D for him, and Jokinen’s done poo poo this year
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
They did exactly what good GMs do…they sold him at a high value and got great return for him
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Buccigross HAKAN LOOB!!!!!!! Buccigross
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 4, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
Alright, we’re firing up a new open thread at 11:30. You’ve been warned. I’ll post a link at the end of this thread.
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OK, go here now: http://www.japersrink.com/2009/3/4/780287/2009-nhl-trade-deadline-op
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