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Is The Window Half Closed Or Half Open?

With the trade deadline now less than a week away, the hot stove is really starting to heat up as media outlets turn their focus toward all things trade, SBN's NHL trade deadline page goes live, significant deals start trickling in, and CapsNation discusses what, if anything, the Capitals ought to do.

Of course the biggest concern for the Capitals is how to balance any improvement of their current roster with the loss of talented young players and/or draft picks and the subsequent weakening of future rosters, a point expounded upon quite well by D'ohboy in the comments of this Fan Post.  So are the Capitals in a position where it makes sense to simply go for broke, even if it means mortgaging a significant portion of their future?  Edward Fraser of The Hockey News thinks so:

Success can be a fickle beast. Just ask followers of the Penguins, Senators, Lightning and Ducks.

Deep playoff runs ignited by overachieving performances result in higher, and often unrealistic, salary demands from players in both starting and supporting roles.

Take the Steeltown’s Flightless Birds. After a somewhat surprise run to the Cup final last season, Pittsburgh was, among other examples, unable to re-sign key cog Ryan Malone, who wound up with $31.5 million over seven years ($4.5 million per season) in Tampa, and then overpaid impending unrestricted free agent defenseman Brooks Orpik to the tune of $22.5 million over six ($3.75 million per).

With so much cap space tied up in so few players (Crosby, Malkin, Fleury, Staal, Whitney), the Pens were and are forced to fill their roster with "affordable" (a nice word for less-skilled) skaters, which has ultimately led to their current non-playoff position.

And the Capitals are destined to end up in the same sinking boat.

Uh oh.  No one wants to end up where Fraser describes the Penguins as being right now. But is that a realistic expectation for the Caps?  Here's Fraser's reasoning:

Assuming Chris Clark remains on long-term IR, Washington has approximately $29 million in cap space dedicated to just eight players (four forwards, four blueliners) heading into 2010-11. The assumption is the cap will drop following next season, but let’s be extra generous and say the ceiling only falls to $55 million, leaving the Caps $26 million to fill in the minimum 12 roster spots.

Both Alexander Semin and Nicklas Backstrom will be restricted free agents looking for enormous raises, let’s charitably say they’ll get $6 million each, and the Capitals will need to find a No. 1 goalie, which at the low end will run you $4 million.

Add it up and you get $10 million left over for six forwards, two blueliners and a backup goalie. D’oh.

Even if Washington is able to rid itself of Michael Nylander and his near $5 million and Simeon Varlamov, with a salary just less than $1 million, establishes himself as No. 1 netminder, that still only provides $18 million for 10 players, or an average of $1.8 million each.

If you pencil in prospects John Carlson and Anton Gustafsson as roster players for 2010, it still doesn’t leave you with enough resources to fill out a lineup with quality players. Keep in mind these cap and salary projections are generous, too.

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If any high-end or depth forward or blueliner becomes available, McPhee should pounce. Even if the asking price is a first round pick, a prized prospect like Karl Alzner, or a combination of the two, McPhee should lean toward the here-and-now side of the equation.

The only thing thing that immediately raises an eyebrow here is the absence of Karl Alzner's name in the 2010-11 discussion, though he is referenced as trade bait. As Capitals fans we may not like it, but this team is going to have to make some tough personnel decisions in the near future.

That fact alone does not mean the Capitals are doomed to mediocrity, however.  The key in the post lockout NHL is obviously value per dollar, rather than total value and the easiest way to get great value for the dollar is to have young, cost-controlled players (particularly guys on their entry deals) who can come up and provide help for the big club.  George McPhee and his scouting staff have done a great job of scouting and drafting recent years and the Capitals farm system has a lot of guys who stand a good chance of being, at a bare minimum, serviceable NHL players.  To further that point, let's take a look at how the Capitals 2010-2011 roster might shape up if they don't move any significant assets at the trade deadline.  First off, it's important to note a few things:

  • It is assumed Michael Nylander is bought out after the 2008-09 season.  In this case, the buyout amount would be $5,666,667 and the 2010-11 cap hit would be $1,416,667.
  • It is also assumed Chris Clark is bought out after the 2008-09 season.  The buyout amount would thus be $3,433,333 and the cap hit $858,333.
  • It is assumed Alexander Semin is traded for some combination of depth, prospects, and draft picks.  Ultimately someone's going to have to go and Semin's penchant for bad penalties, inconsistency, and durability issues, coupled with the fact the team could get a good return on him, make him a good option.

With those caveats in mind, here's how the roster could shape up for that 2010-11 season [cap hits in italics are estimates, and we've tried to err on the side of caution, rather than giving players unreasonably small contracts]:

Forwards

Alexander Ovechkin  $9,538,462
Nicklas Backstrom $6,250,000
Tomas Fleischmann $3,250,000
Eric Fehr $2,500,000
Brooks Laich $2,066,667
Matt Bradley $1,000,000
Jay Beagle $920,000
Anton Gustafsson $875,000
Boyd Gordon $850,000
David Steckel $850,000
Oskar Osala $850,000
Francois Bouchard $850,000
Chris Bourque $725,000
Andrew Gordon $675,000
Total (14) $31,200,129

That's fourteen forwards (five centers, nine wings) for $31.2 million dollars.  Of course, there are no sure things and the odds of guys like Francois Bouchard, Oskar Osala, and Anton Gustafsson not being ready are pretty high, but for the purposes of this discussion, that's okay.  The point is that, given who the Capitals have right now, they can field a competitive groups of forwards without breaking the bank.  Now we turn to...

Defensemen

Mike Green $5,250,000
Tom Poti $3,500,000
Jeff Schultz $1,950,000
Karl Alzner $1,675,000
John Erskine $1,250,000
John Carlson $875,000
Josh Godfrey $845,833
Total (7) $15,345,833

The defense corps comes in at $15.3 million. What's nice about this set of numbers is that, aside from Jeff Schultz, all these contracts are already in place and less guesswork is necessary.  Of course, to round things out we have...

Goalies

Simeon Varlamov $821,667
Michal Neuvirth $821,667
Total (2) $1,643,334

If the Capitals two young netminders can indeed be ready to be NHL regulars at the start of 2010-11, it would be a huge boost for the club when it comes to salary cap management.

In total we have twenty-three players, proportionally distributed among positions, coming in at $48,189,296.  Add in the $2,270,000 in buyout commitments and the Capitals are looking at $50,459,296 in salary cap commitments, $4,540,704 below Fraser's guesstimate of a $55 million cap.  That $4.54 million dollars is more than enough to sign decent player or two to fill out the roster in case some of the youngster don't pan out (which, realistically, is all but inevitable).  It's also more than enough to sign a quality goaltender if neither Simeon Varlamov nor Michal Neuvirth is ready (or still here), to shore up depth, or to make a big splash if the team needs it.  Or even to keep Alexander Semin under contract for one more season.

In short, unless the team makes some very bad personnel decision(s), the Caps should be competitive for the next several years. Sorry, Mr. Fraser - the window in Washington may be small, but that's because it's just now opening.

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I’m so glad you made this point, because I was going to post a similar sentiment (with less fact) to this effect (but pesky work got in the way!)

Comparing us to the Penguins is just silly.
They have a huge chunk tied up in three centers, and a goalie.
We have good balance in our higher-priced assets, and as long as the value is there, you can’t ask for more.
I couldn’t agree more about Semin as well. Between him and Nicky, that’s a no-contest.
We also need to save some money for some decent d-men.

Great post JP!

by marks4java on Feb 26, 2009 4:34 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, I really hit this one out of the… wait a second… DMG wrote it. Dammit!

I’m still happy to take credit, though.

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by J.P. on Feb 26, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

As a point of reference, the Caps could also wait until the end of next season to buy out Nylander. If they were to do so, he would only count $500,000 against the cap in 2010-11, but I decided to have the Caps buying him out after this year in the example because (1) it’s simpler to assume he and Clark are bought out at the same time and (2) we’re trying to look at a ‘bad but not worse case’ scenario here.

by David Getz on Feb 26, 2009 4:41 PM EST reply actions  

Great work, DMG.

Pick SPG for your chance to win probably nothing.

by xiix on Feb 26, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you for that, and thank you for reminding me to get to SPG.

by David Getz on Feb 26, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Well Done!

And you definitely painted a “worst” case scenario salary wise. Flash and Fehr have a lot to accomplish to become 2.5-3M players. Alzner’s true salary is about half that, but because of the CBA uncertainty this year he had to count his potential maximum. I think that will change now.

Agreed on the Semin front.

And nevermind how nasty Ovie, Backs and Greenie are going to be by then. Hey-ya.

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by macvechkin on Feb 26, 2009 5:14 PM EST reply actions  

Wow! DMG, you make too much sense!

I’m glad to hear how easy it is to buy out two guys who due to completely different reasons have become expendable. i still wish I could skate around in circles, take penalties, rarely score unless you shoot it off my sket or back side and collect 4.5 million. My wife would care where she shopped!

"Every person is a damn fool for at least five minutes every day. Wisdom consists in not exceeding the limit." Elbert Hubbard.

by Izzyforeal365 on Feb 26, 2009 5:16 PM EST reply actions  

Damn you and your perspective!

What’s great is that this is done using the foregone conclusion that a contract that isn’t a vet is going to have to go, which is more than likely and it helps illustrate the ’Ning and Pens lessons are still being heavily considered.

Hella rec’d.

"Good crowd out there tonight, boys, let's really try to win this one."

by Bald Pollack on Feb 26, 2009 5:17 PM EST reply actions  

Just for fun, here’s more or less how I would imagine the lineup going with this roster:

Ovechkin-Backstrom-Fehr
Fleischmann-Gustafsson-Laich/Osala
Bourque-Steckel-Laich/Osala
A. Gordon-B. Gordon-Bradley
(Beagle; Bouchard)

Alzner-Green
Poti/Schultz-Carlson
Poti/Schultz-Erskine
(Godfrey)

Varlamov
Neuvirth

If the guys develop the way the could (or would have to in order to get to the NHL), I think that’s a competitive lineup.

by David Getz on Feb 26, 2009 5:26 PM EST reply actions  

great work again, D. I can’t believe they stripped your proper title of Data Maven : )

The only spot I quibble with is, of course, at Center. I am not comfortable in the Baby Gus bus yet. #2 C is a reach, methinks, at least until 2012 or so.

Awesomeness all around, though.

by bigonetimer on Feb 26, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree. If you look at that lineup, there’s a lack of depth at center unless Gus makes significant progress, but I think the top four defenseman are much more solid than under the team’s current roster, especially with Green and Schultz presumably making progress.

Perhaps the center depth issue gets addressed in the theoretical Semin trade or by moving Laich to that position?

by David Getz on Feb 26, 2009 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Second line centers are always available. The key is not to pay two third-line centers first-line center money.

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by J.P. on Feb 26, 2009 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s early to look, I know, but Marc Savard, Jokinen, and Antoine Vermette are slated for free agency in 2010. If the need wasn’t that pressing there should also be Matt Stajan, Ryan Johnson, or even Jeff Halpern (though he’ll be pretty old by then).

by David Getz on Feb 26, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

The key is not to pay two third-line centers first-line center money.

well put. Nyls is exhibit A.

Look at how Boston has their C’s lined up:

Savard: 5M (UFA in 2011)
Bergeron: 5M (UFA in 2012)
Axelsson: 1.8M (UF in 2010)
Kessel/Krejci/Nokelainen: 3.9M combined (all 3 RFA)

really, any one of Kessel, Krejci and Axelsson could be a #2, imo. That is what I call depth at C.

by bigonetimer on Feb 26, 2009 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Fedorov, arguably, is Exhibit B.

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by J.P. on Feb 26, 2009 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Kessel spends most of his time on the wing and he’s a scorer not a passer. I doubt he ever spends much time playing C. Also… Boston is apparently shopping him in a package for Pronger with a prospect and a first. Can we (should we) match that?

by Rob Parker on Feb 26, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

No. See FanShot on this very rumor.

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by J.P. on Feb 26, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Just curious why you have Osala and Bouchard on the big club at that point when Perreault has been the most consistent player on the Rookie line. He has been getting assists while the other two drop off. I’m kinda surprised by that because I expected MP to be the slowest to adjust because of his size but it looks like he’s ahead of the other two right now.

by Rob Parker on Feb 26, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that Osala and Bouchard are more likely to be ready by 2010 (though I admit, I’m not sold on Bouchard). Perreault’s size, to me, means it’s going to be 2010 before he even gets looked at by the Capitals because they’re going to want him to put on at least twenty pounds before he’s in the NHL. Plus there are already five centers on this roster.

But if Perreault makes it instead of one of those other guys, good on him. Either way, the fact remains that the Caps will be able to stay competitive with the pieces they have.

by David Getz on Feb 26, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Perreault plays Wing if he makes the NHL but it’s good that he’s learning C in our system. The fact that he hasn’t worn down or hit a wall like O’salad and Bouchard says a lot to me. I tend to go the other way with size. Once he puts on the weight he either has the skill to play or he doesn’t, I think we know what we have with him by 10/11 (two off seasons to put on weight).

by Rob Parker on Feb 26, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Great research and writing DMG.

I know this article was fiscally-focused, but I keep looking at that list of 14 forwards thinking, “if we think there is a secondary scoring problem now……”. Yikes! But by the looks of those salaries for Flash and Fehr, you’re assuming they pan out over the rest of this year and next to be legit Top 6ers who can command those dollars, right?

by Cluster on Feb 26, 2009 5:29 PM EST reply actions  

Yes, I was figuring Fehr and Fleischmann as 20-30 goal, 55-70 point wings because I think that’s about the ceiling for each, and I was trying to think of what the maximum they would get without something weird happening would be.

by David Getz on Feb 26, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Trading Semin

This scenario makes it look like all we get in return for Semin are draft picks or expiring contracts (rentals) who we don’t resign? Am I missing something?

by superjuan on Feb 26, 2009 5:31 PM EST reply actions  

I just didn’t want to speculate as to what position the Capitals might need guys at or how much money they might be making.

by David Getz on Feb 26, 2009 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh no, I understand… no need to speculate to crazily. It was just a little disheartening to not see anything come of losing Semin.

Great post, btw, especially since it definitely helps me start getting used to the likelyhood that Semin might not be Cap for much longer. (Is it obvious enough that I don’t want to trade Semin? I mean I understand the concept, I just need some time to get a used to it.)

by superjuan on Feb 26, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

But who’s gonna be around to not punch people in the face when they’re mean to our stars and goalies?!

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by J.P. on Feb 26, 2009 5:31 PM EST reply actions  

Erskine’s still on the roster!

by David Getz on Feb 26, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

JP’s sarcasm aside, it is a fairly serious question. Cause the answer sure as hell ain’t on the roster above. I like Erskine and he can definitely fight, but he’s one glancing blow to the chin away from another concussion. Dollar-wise, it’s probably insignificant. But an A-list superstar (or two) require an A-list goon, and what’s the most they make these days, 1-1.2 mil?

by Cluster on Feb 26, 2009 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

You can get a Godard for $750k.

And never brush aside my sarcasm. Ever!

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by J.P. on Feb 26, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Depends how well the guy can play. Someone like Brashear or Laraque or Chris Neil who can take a regular shift will probably run you 1-1.6. A guy who can fight but can’t do much else like Brian McGrattan or Godard more like 750k, and a guy who will fight but isn’t that great at it and who’s not a very good player can run you 500k.

by David Getz on Feb 26, 2009 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I say we go with option 1 above. We should offer sheet Orr for about a mil a year and get someone who can skate effectively 8-10 minutes a night.

I think the bottom line we all agree on is that none of us wants to find out what it would be like for Ovie and the gang to not have a presence like Brash in the lineup, evens if it means slightly overpaying somone.

by Cluster on Feb 26, 2009 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess that’s one reason to keep Semin.

by the way, that fan shot needs to be linked on the front page. :-)

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by macvechkin on Feb 26, 2009 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Again, everyone overlooks Mink! He might be older, but he is puting up points and is a good fighter. Why not give the guy a shot?! Everytime he moves up to Washington he plays his a** off. He is a guy that puts everything he has into the game.

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by Bongos on Feb 26, 2009 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

C’mon, Delly, use this snub as motivation!

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by J.P. on Feb 26, 2009 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Well done.

If you add in a targeted free agent defenseman and maybe a blue chip prospect up front from a theoretical Semin trade then you’ve got yourself a pretty decent lineup. You could also subtract a young player or two and replace them with a few cheap veteran types in depth roles just for balance’s sake.

I’d look to deal away Fleischmann as well for a little more beef up front but, who knows, maybe he’ll turn another developmental corner over the next year.

by Langway on Feb 26, 2009 5:32 PM EST reply actions  

Not to mention, I don’t think Backstrom will necessarily command 6+ million for his second contract. I think Green is a decent comparable for Backstrom. But it’s good to be conservative, and the analysis looks solid.

by Ginga on Feb 26, 2009 5:33 PM EST reply actions  

I admit, that was one aspect of Fraser’s analysis I quibbled with. For example, Spezza’s $7M hit is regarded as a bad contract while Mike Richards’ 5.75 is viewed as fair or moderately favorable to the Flyers. I can see anywhere from 5.5-6.5 but I think his analysis that it would be “charitable” to assume he gets six million is a bit off.

by David Getz on Feb 26, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotta love the MSM Journalistic Work Ethic...

Did this guy even take a cursory look at the respective prospect pools of the Pens and the Caps? The Baby Pens made a playoff run with a veteran team primarily made of career-AHLers with one or two notable exceptions. The Caps have one of the deepest prospect pools in the league. That alone is enough of a distinction to not draw conclusions about the Caps from the Pens situation. Combined that with the much more manageable cap situation GMGM is facing this off season and this guy is just lazy.

by Rob Parker on Feb 26, 2009 10:35 PM EST reply actions  

Semin Inconsistent??

I’ll be happy to take Semin’s variety of inconsistency. For the record, this year, he has gone pointless in only 7 out of the 42 games he’s played this year; i.e. no goal or assist. And even after coming back from the second injury, it’s been only 5 games out of 22. So, generally we can count on him for a point a game on a consistent basis.

Granted, he’s been taking too many penalties as of late but, on the whole, there’s been a big improvement in his game. Lots of assists, unlike last year, so he’s passing better. And during Green’s scoring streak, guess who’s usually has given him the assist? Yup, Alexander V. Semin.

In short, he’s an asset worth keeping and wouldn’t recommend trading him unless we get a fantastic deal.

by CapsFan75 on Feb 26, 2009 11:40 PM EST reply actions  

Yes, inconsistent. He had 27 points; 13 goals in the team’s first 15 games, and since then has had 27 points; 9 goals in 26 games (all this is heading into tonight’s game).

Last year Semin ran hot and cold all year: started out with five points in fifteen games, then had fifteen in fifteen games, followed by three points in eight games, followed by eight points in eight games, ten points in seventeen games, and finished the season with seven points in four games.

In 05-06 he started off with eleven points (eight goals) in eight games and it took him twenty-four games to notch another eight. He also had a stretch of seventeen points in ten games, followed by eight points in twenty games fourteen points in nine games. He’s pretty much been the definition of inconsistent in his career.

Yes, it would be nice to keep him but the point I was getting at is that someone who is going to command big money is going to have to go, and I think Semin’s the best option.

by David Getz on Feb 27, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Most goal scorers are inconsistent. Ovechkin is the exception to the rule (and even he has his slumps).

It will be essential for our future to have a second serious scoring threat. That may be Green, but it should most likely be from the forward core. Semin can be that threat, but I guess so can someone else. If we trade Semin for pick/prospects, we will have to replace him, either by developing our current picks/prospects to become legit scoring threats, or via free agency (and the $4.5 mil cap room we might have at that point).

Also, some mentioned Center depth in a previous post. Great teams have Center depth. The team listed above may be good, but won’t be great. IT is a start, and we’ll see what shakes out over the coming years.

by aaronk21214 on Feb 27, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Again, the issue isn’t whether Semin is as valuable player – he is. The issue is whether he provides more value per dollar than can be found elsewhere, and I’m not convinced that’s the case.

by David Getz on Feb 27, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree that value per dollar is important, but you can’t build a team on a strictly value per dollar sense. You can’t build a team with twenty-two $2.5mil players for example. You couldn’t really replaced Semin’s 107pt potential with two 53 point players, even if you could get value out of their contracts, because there wouldn’t be enough ice time for them and all your other secondary scores.

If we trade Semin, we need to bring in someone of equal ability, either by FA or development, or else we a) won’t be able to create a second scoring threat other then OV and b) won’t have the ice time needed by the other secondary scorers to do their thing. Can we replace Semin with development? Don’t know. Can we find a cheaper alternative that still produces 100+points from one lethal source? Maybe, but who in the league fits that bill now? They’re few and far between, and will be equally as scarce two years down the road.

by aaronk21214 on Feb 27, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Obviously not everyone spends to the salary cap, but the whole point of putting on in place was to make it so that value per dollar and total value were aligned. If the cap’s working (which I think it is), value per dollar is what players need to be judged on, be it marginal value or total value/salary.

Fraser estimates that it will take at least six million to keep Semin, and while the team could probably fit him under this scenario by moving Fleischmann or Fehr, the 2011-12 season is when it starts to get ugly – a lot of guys fininsh up their entry level deals that year and committing 9.5 million per to Ovechkin, 6+ to Backstrom, 6+ to Semin, and 5.25 to Green would be a mistake. I don’t see any way to retain decent depth and keep all those guys and I think Semin’s the one who’s least valuable, especially for the money.

by David Getz on Feb 27, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

A lot of wishful thinking and assumptions here. Basing your numbers on more than half the team plays for league minimum. That just doesn’t happen in the NHL. Also, no team would go into the season with two rookie goalies. Finally, there are a handful of players you list that will be coming up on their final rookie contract years. These players will get big time raises in salary. The goal is to lock up the young players to long term deals, which could escalate their salaries from the 800k range you list. The Caps have only done long term deals with Ovechkin and Green up until 2011/2012. They will have to try and lock up additional players who will be looking for their second NHL contract. Also, who’s to say someone can’t come along and place a bid on some of the young players (Backstrom, Semin, Fleischmann, Steckel, Bourque) if they become RFAs, thus driving up their salary even more.

by skippy123 on Feb 27, 2009 10:40 AM EST reply actions  

2 quick observations:
1. Neuvirth and Varlamov won’t be rookie goalies at this point, though one of them will become a first-time starter.

2. If other teams place huge bounties on our RFAs, that could be a problem. We’d also get a ton of picks back for the Backstrom/Semin-level guys. And I don’t think Backstrom will ever actually reach RFA status.

But I think your criticism is valid – at the same time, the roster is inevitably going to look a lot different than this for one reason or another. The Caps only have two huge salary commitments in Ovie and Green right now, and I don’t think anyone regrets those deals or expects to in two years. There’s still flexibility.

by grapejoos on Feb 27, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

And while you may think some guys are a little low, others are likely equally high. I mean, if Tomas Fleischmann ever makes $3.25m in an NHL season, I doubt it’ll be here.

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by J.P. on Feb 27, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think there’s anyone on that list who’s making the league minimum.

by David Getz on Feb 27, 2009 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I doubled checked and the minimum for the 2010-11 season is going to be no more than $525,000, and I think will be less. So everyone on the list is making at least $150,000 over the minimum.

by David Getz on Feb 27, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

This whole discussion seems a bit silly at this point

Sometimes guys restructure contracts, sometimes guys leave for the big paychecks, sometimes guys re-sign for less money to stay with a team because they want to be there (Fedorov did that this year, I think?)
There’s no point arguing about next year at this time.
What I do know is Mr. Leonsis said he learned his lesson on the Jagr deal. He said he would build a winning franchise through the draft, and that he would keep it a winning franchise for a long time by developing the young players that were drafted and adding veterans as needed.
I would say things are going just as they planned and believe the future is just as bright.

by Jeffs Nuts on Feb 27, 2009 11:29 AM EST reply actions  

1) NHL contracts can’t be restructured
2) I tend to doubt another NHL team would pay Feds more than $4m
3) The point of this post is to refute a poorly thought-out and reasoned post that appeared elsewhere. It’s what bloggers do.

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by J.P. on Feb 27, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

And that’s a 1-2-3, Faux-style.

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by J.P. on Feb 27, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Semin and team chemistry

Making a trade that disrupts the chemistry of this team before the playoffs would be a huge mistake. Doesn’t anyone remember when we traded Richard Zednik for Trevor Linden? The Caps were flying and had just come back from 5 goals down against Ottawa. McPhee traded Zednik and it went downhill from there. Played .500 hockey the rest of the year and exited first round in the playoffs.

Trading Semin would disrupt the locker room and put a real damper on OV’s attitude. Any damper on OV’s attitude would kill this team. Not to mention that Semin has the best plus/minus on the team. Does nobody notice his defensive positioning? I think Semin and Federov were on the ice for an even strength goal by Boston today – but is was their first minus point all month. The penalties are not great, but I’ll live with them.

As for trades, all we need to do is get rid of Nylander (even if we have to eat some of his salary) for draft picks so we can bring up Alzner under the salary cap. Don’t trade anyone that is in any way part of the clubhouse atmosphere. It would be a disaster.

by FanSince1974 on Mar 1, 2009 1:39 AM EST reply actions  

Great look ahead but the cap number projection is far too high

DMG,

Big Caps fan here, gf lives in DC and since I have all but given up on the Leafs, I’m jumping full throttle on the bandwagon of Ovi and company.

Don’t have any problem with your projected salary numbers for individual players but the suggestion that the league’s overall cap will be 55M in 10/11 is way off. I realize this was the original writer’s suggestion, not yours, but to really evaluate the Caps ability to ice competitive teams in the future we need to use a much more realistic number.

It’s the 09/10 season where 55M would be a good estimate. For 10/11, many are saying it’s going to fall off the cliff. Some suggest 50M, some go even lower. I personally feel that with an 80cent CAN$ and with the economy at best just coming out of the recession in summer 2010 (and thus having the cap based on revenue from this upcoming season when by all accounts discretionary spending by the public is indeed falling off the cliff), I have to say I think a 10/11 cap number much lower is very likely.

And if it is that, obviously the Caps have a massive problem. The good news, they won’t be the only ones. In fact almost present playoff team would face massive problems.

So the question is, how much lower?

Just before beginning, I just want to ask if you read Bill Simmons article last week about the dire state the NBA is in economically going forward. It was terrible. And he thinks the NHL will be 10 times worse, with the possibility of many franchises outright folding up. I don’t think things will quite come to that, but it’s a sobering article just the same.

Let’s say that league wide revenue collapses by 15% (I think it could be even worse but we’ll go with that). So instead of 100% we are working from an 85% base. Now by common consensus the Canadian teams account for 30% of league revenue. If the c$ stays 20% lower than the US$ then the Canadian rev will drop by 6. So subtracting 6 from the 85% and we end up with a figure of 79%.

So just as a ball park guess, let us assume the 10/11 salary cap will be only 79% of the cap this year. 79% of 56.7M is….44.8M. So let’s say 45M.

That is a number that would cause many teams to have to outright cut many players. And since when one is cut, 2/3 over twice the term still counts, teams would be cutting not just one or two, but multiple players to get under the cap.

I do not think the league in any way, shape, or form has a plan to deal with the sort of chaos that would ensue from something like this.

And again, the suggestion that league revenue may fall by "only’ 15% may well be optimistic.

People involved in hockey have not really thought through what may be about to happen in the next 2 years. It will be like nothing ever seen before.

by Phil23 on Mar 11, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  


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