Saturday Caps Clips: Caps @ Flyers Game Day
by J.P. on Dec 5, 2009 10:00 AM EST
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Your savory breakfast links:
- Previews of Game 1 of the Peter Laviolette era in Philly from Vogs, NHL.com, Peerless, CSN Washington and CSN Philly, and be sure to check out our SB Nation partner Broad Street Hockey for coverage from the other side of tonight's match up.
- Taking joy in Philly's turmoil. [OFB]
- It continues not to suck to be Alex Ovechkin... [D.C. Sports Bog, NHL Network Online (video)]
- ... Even if some blowhard thinks it "would be fun to see" him "meet a couple of fourth-line enforcers down the road." [CBC]
- Speaking of idiocy, a nice collection of responses to a prime example of it... [D.C. Sports Bog, Ted's Take, FanPost]
- ... But we should be fair and let the author defend himself. Here's Jim Kelley on The Mike Wise Show... [106.7 The Fan... at least it should be here soon]
- ... And we'll give Caps Senior Director of Media Relations Nate Ewell the last word on the matter: "All lies. This interview is making him look even more deceitful, dishonest, biased and wrong." Game. Set. Match. [@nateewell]
- Several Caps have stepped it up in AO's absence... [Washington Times]
- ... As the team rallies around it's superstar. [NHL.com]
- The sore wrist that sidelined Alexander Semin for seven games "may ultimately require surgery." That's the first I've heard the "s" word used, which likely means it came from the player (or more likely his agent), which seems an odd thing to be putting out there in a contract year. [Globe and Mail]
- Speaking of Semin, "He's a great guy in the locker room, a supportive guy to everyone. He's a big part of the team, and I hope he stays here." So says someone whose opinion probably matters. [Washington Post]
- Some (inter)national attention for what Brendan Morrison has done for the team so far. [NHL.com]
- One for the ladies... and those who appreciate fine photography. [TTT Hockey]
- Btw, TTT Hockey photos would make for truly special holiday gifts. [TTT Hockey]
- Several Caps talk about their first times... scoring an NHL goal, that is. [CSN Washington]
- You thought you'd seen all the "Free Alex" pictures that were out there? Think again. [Peerless]
- Mike Knuble goes toy shoppin' for charity. [Hockey Mom]
- Elliot in the Morning tells Florida's Mike Duco he's number one. [TwitPic (via @OnFrozenBlog)]
- A preview of Junior Seau's day as shooting target/equipment manager for the Caps. [NHL Network Online (video)]
- FiOS subscribers will want to read this. [Mike Holden's blog]
- "Hall of Famer Olaf Kolzig" has a nice ring to it, even if we're just talking ECHL. [CSN Washington]
- In case you missed it, the Penguins waived Chris Bourque yesterday. [@TSNBobMcKenzie]
- Sticking with Pittsburgh, Brent Johnson's worst Civic Arena memory? This game. [Empty Netters]
- The juxtaposition of an Habs fan reaction to Eric Fehr's late game-tying goal from last weekend and Led Zep's chill "Going to California" is fantastic, but certainly NSFW for language. [YouTube (h/t YNC)]
- Finally, per the HHoF, on this date back in 1997 "Jeff Toms scored at 3:32 of OT to give the Capitals a 3-2 win over the Panthers, in the first NHL game played at the MCI Center in Washington D.C."
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I hate playing the first game against a new coach. Hopefully we’ll play like we did against the Pens last year with Bylsma…
Be careful at any gloating about Philly too… its identical to Pitt last year.
God I hate these guys(Pitt and Phi.)
Wow, that Habs rant was epic. Also, IT’S SNOWING!
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And I’m nervous. I’m getting on a bus to go up I-95 shortly. Ugh.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Word that I see is it’s not really going to snow in NYC until tonight, so maybe at some point we get ahead of it. I am seriously bummed right now.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Aaaand, I bailed. Probably will go tomorrow if the snow stops.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Probably for the best – it’s nasty outside.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 5, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
So who’s the source in “Globe and Mail” that says Sasha’s wrist may ultimately need surgery?
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You saw my guesses in the post. Definitely not the team…
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Duhatschek is not very reliable, IMO. He’s right up there with Alan Muir.
Listen to Ol' Hank Murphy and eat your damn onions.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 5, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
And after reading the SI article yesterday, I think we now know where Muir learned everything he knows about hockey writing.
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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 5, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What is this agent doing? It’s not a discount if you pay less for damaged goods, right?
Listen to Ol' Hank Murphy and eat your damn onions.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 5, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
This is why Semin is an enigma wrapped in a riddle surrounded by mystery…a lot of what he does leaves reasonable men scratching their heads.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
Regarding “may ultimately require surgery” — that’s theorized in the Toronto press? No one in DC has suggested that? I’m not sure I’d even attribute that to the player or his agent yet. Sounds more like someone trying to suggest a Caps handicap. Now, if he goes out again with it, I’ll listen to that theory more.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
WIthout any specific details, we can’t conclude it was said by either the player or his agent.
Rocking the Red since 1975
No, but we can conclude that the locals ought to be making some inquiries.
And a guy like Duhatshek doesn’t write that without some basis.
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There are at least two people who get paid to do it. Let’s see what they come up with.
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OT, but has anyone here been in and/or seen the musical “Urinetown”?
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Um, no. But I’ve heard of it. And that might be the most “OT” question ever.
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I have auditions today. I also have a bit of a cold.
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Good luck at your audition. “Urinetown” couldn’t possibly be set in a certain city in Western PA. A certain city that’s home to a nasty bunch of waddling, flightless birds. Or could it?
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Would that make it “Pissburgh”?
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I have seen it. Bring your sense of humor to auditions. Break a leg.
"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."
by CapitalCentre on Dec 5, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks, but I’ve heard that broken bones are painful :)
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Scratch that- postponed due to the snow.
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Easily in the top 3. Did I mention that I watched Christmas Vacation with the kids last night?
by mechanicsville on Dec 5, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Is there any reason we shouldn’t at least try to get Bourque back into the system? He’s good in the AHL, and provides organizational depth.
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It would make some sense – even lower cap hit if he’s recalled later (and wouldn’t have to go through re-entry, if I’m not mistaken), and they like him in HER. It would be a very low-risk, low reward move.
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Low risk, low reward. Perfect.
Listen to Ol' Hank Murphy and eat your damn onions.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 5, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Disagree, sorta. He’s almost surely not going to make an impact on the big club; I doubt he has much trade value; his utility as a depth player/warm body is minimal.
I don’t really see the value of having him in the org.?
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
Hershey appreciates that he’s not in Wilkes-Barre/Scranton. This is low-risk, high-reward in that regard.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
“For Hershey” is a good enough reason for me.
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 5, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Me too. Because we gave up nothing for him.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 5, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, in retrospect not only did we give up nothing for him, but we essentially loaned him to the Pens (where he was horrible) and got a very small amount of cap relief in the meantime. Every penny helps.
Hmm…GMGM is perhaps even smarter than I thought ;)
It’s a win for Borque, too. He collected an NHL salary for 20 games that he probably wouldn’t have been able to get here (assuming he’d cleared waivers, how long do you think he’d have been here?).
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
I think he would have been here much of the season, and Perrault in Hershey. I know they play different positions, but still, that’s at least possible. One of the unexpected consequences of Bourque being claimed may have been Perrault’s opportunity to show that he is what we were all hoping Bourque would be.
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 5, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure I ever expected Bourque to be what MP’s been. At least, not in the same way – they’re pretty different players.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 5, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
Possibly. Sure, he presumably would have been the first callup when cap space opened up, but on the other hand, it seems that we have had more of a need for centers than wingers, so maybe not.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
He has no trade value, by definition. Twice he’s been on waivers and gotten almost all the way through. We talk about “he could play on a team with less depth” but those are precisely the teams that passed him up for nothing. Now they’re going to trade something to get him? Nuh uh.
His value in the org. is helping carry Hershey to a Calder Cup. That’s it. I firmly believe that it’s real good for our prospects’ development when they go for the Calder Cup, and they can’t do it without AHL veteran help.
Listen to Ol' Hank Murphy and eat your damn onions.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 5, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
I suspect that was GMGM’s plan to begin with. If GMGM knew he wasn’t going to stay up this year, sending him through waivers was a relatively safe move. If he really wasn’t going to be good enough for the NHL this year and still got claimed, there was always the chance he could be reclaimed and assigned directly to where GMGM wanted him anyway. If he was never put back on waivers, while we all like the heart and soul of the guy, it really wasn’t a huge loss, both Hershey and the Caps are getting on just fine.
And there’s one more benefit too. The odds of anyone else claiming him this season are much lower now that the Pens gave him his shot. That means the Caps can probably bring him up or send him down with impunity, not worrying about the fact that he has to clear waivers every time. He’s still the same player he was, but now he’s more valuable for depth because (like Quintin Laing) they can be fairly certain that they won’t lose him when they send him through waivers.
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 5, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds like the fixed income portion of my portfolio. I doubt that Borque will keep pace with inflation over the long haul.
by mechanicsville on Dec 5, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Per corey (glad to still be saying that and hope to for a while)
bq.Bruce Boudreau said Tom Poti is playing tonight. There’s a “great chance” Theodore is in net and a “good chance” that Alzner is playing.
wonder what the pairings will be
Yeah, Corey:
Bruce Boudreau said … [t]here’s a "great chance" Theodore is in net[.]
Tarik, five minutes later:
“Coach Boudreau also hinted that Jose Theodore will get the start at Wachovia Center.”
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That was my recommendation (and guess). JT in net today. Methinks that JT and SAV will be alternating at goal next week.
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Yep. And I thought “great chance” was a bit stronger than the “hinted” that followed five minutes later.
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it’s the new NHL version of the NFL injury report. Instead of “probable,” “questionable,” “doubtful,” “Out,” and “dead,” there are, “great chance,” “good chance,” “a chance,” “not likely,” “snowball’s chance in hell,” and “Nylander.”
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Dec 5, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I think, on Semin, Boudreau was doing a little gamesmanship there. He was still not fully revealing the plans on him, when it was obvious that there were no extra forwards available for the game since Beagle had already been sent down to Hershey and that was even with including Sloan as a forward.
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Aaaand Corey drinks Tarik’s milkshake once again…
Vogel was funny on the last Caps report talking about how Tarik doesn’t like twitter, and Corey is a master.
Man, I hope a miracle happens and Corey stays in DC
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 5, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This comment Corey made during Nate’s online fisking of Jim Kelley yesterday is reason enough to make him the beat writer of record, but that’s just me.
"Eloquence, brought to you by a peanut butter, egg and dice sandwich."
by Bald Pollack on Dec 5, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Know what would be a great move? For CSN Washington to hire Corey to write for them. They’re beefing up their online presence and he’d be a perfect fit (just like CSN Philly did with Panaccio (or however you spell his name)).
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Not sure I’ve seen Corey on video, but he’s been great on “radio” on the Caps report — especially on trade deadline day. CSN wouldn’t have to keep him just on text either.
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 5, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know if he fits CSN’s model. How much does he know about the Redskins?
Listen to Ol' Hank Murphy and eat your damn onions.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 5, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I was pretty out of it the last few years. But it’s interesting that Ken Hitchcock was the Flyers old coach. Maybe that explains why the Blue Jackets are now a dirty team.
Even since Nov 1 of this year, I vowed to root against the Blue Jackets. Unless they play the Penguins or any other arch rival of the Capitals.
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It’ll be interesting to see how much a fighting “hater” like Lavi changes the culture or whether he is the one changed. I’d bet the house on the latter.
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Further to that last point, this:
"I have a very strict no-fighting policy for our team," Laviolette says. "Last year in the playoffs (defenseman) Mike Commodore got into a fight and I said, ‘OK, that’s it. No more fighting.’ I simply cannot afford to lose a player like Mike Commodore to an injury he may sustain in a fight.
"Take a guy like Erik Cole. If we allowed him to fight, I know he would do it. Now if he gets hurt in a fight, our team has lost a very valuable asset. How do I justify that? I can’t. It just doesn’t make sense to me to allow our guys to fight."
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Ya, my roommate is a huge flyers fan(unfortunate i know) so we were discuss that quote last night, we disagree on many things and he thinks the instigator has no place in hockey and he’s fine with a fight after a clean hit, god they make them crazy in philly. that got off track but the point was he is worried that they won’t fight(as much) anymore but with the team they have i see no chance of that
Yeah I’d see Holmgren, making it a condition of employment haha. If ya wanna coach, you let them fight/hit/etc This was probably verbalized in a general expectations of the team identity or something of that nature.
It helps that Dan Carcillo and Aaron Asham aren’t exactly Erik Cole.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 5, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Or even Mike Commodore.
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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 5, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
That’s the thing. What if the rule was “Richards and Carter and Pronger can’t fight. Leave that to Ashram and Carcillo” — would the Flyers go for it?
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 5, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
That is so Not Philadelphia, the City of Brotherly Longshoremen. But it will be interesting to see if he finds a way to (not change but) harness and say, focus, all that Broad Street Bully energy.
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Timely and topical! FanHouse Fight of the Week – Carcillo v. Rivet in Philly. Think FlyersNation is gonna let this go easily?
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Fight of this week – Carcillo vs. Laviolette. I don’t buy a non-fighting policy. Playoffs, yeah, and the skilled players, yeah. But you can’t limit an entire team. Otherwise teams will start making runs, knowing there is a good chance of no fights. And no fights means dirtier play, which leads to penalties. Another arguement why fighting needs to stay in the game.
City of Brotherly Longshoremen
I did not know there was a large population of longshoremen in Philadelphia.
by mechanicsville on Dec 5, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed — it makes me think he’s not going to last. I believe that’s more deeply a part of the Flyers culture than he’ll be able to overcome.
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by CapitalCentre on Dec 5, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
This. I said yesterday when the news broke that I didn’t think Lavi was a good fit for the current Philly system, even if he’s a “proven winner” coach. One or the other (team or coach) will have to adapt. Which is also why I’m not so sure Philly comes out strong tonight – they might actually be stronger as the game progresses and they get used to Lavi.
Hopefully our boys come out stronger.
Shoulda gone with Mike Keenan
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 5, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Per Corey:
Boudreau on Laviolette’s “no fighting” rule in Carolina: “His teams in Providence had enough toughness to fill a battleship.”
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And earlier this year, Paul Maurice explained that the Canes didn’t have the personnel to fight, and that was the reason for their no fighting rule. He said “we prefer not to lose fights.” I wonder if Laviolette’s policy was there for the same reason.
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 5, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
I know people are bummed about AO’s shoulder injury, but I certainly wouldn’t characterize Columbus as a dirty team. Hitchcock has coached dirty players (the Flyers, Derrian Hatcher with the Stars), but I don’t think he is a dirty coach.
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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 5, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
They were certainly dirty that night. And Hitchcock told his boys to target Ovi.
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Everyone does that, as they should. If the Caps weren’t targeting Nash then BB wasn’t doing his job.
Listen to Ol' Hank Murphy and eat your damn onions.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 5, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
Hahaha. I know your pain. Catch you around Yosh. (But we don’t think any less of you.)
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 5, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think they were dirty. They were playing chippy and there was some shoving after the whistle on that scrum, but that is hardly dirty.
And has been said repeatedly since that story broke out, there is nothing wrong or dirty about telling your team to target Ovechkin. When you are a superstar player other teams are going to key in on you and look to hit you whenever they can to take away space and get you off your game. It’s just good strategy.
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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 5, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
again per Corey
Looks like Brian Pothier will be the healthy scratch on defense tonight. Um … yeah.
uhhhhh, why?
So we can blow out Tampa on Monday?
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Because he needs a little nudge again? Did I miss something?
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
It’s possible but i also don’t see erskin pairing up well with anyone tonight, if it is a 4-3 combo again i’m even more worried about tonight
don’t see erskin pairing up well with anyone tonight
…and this is different from all other nights in what way?
by mechanicsville on Dec 5, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
Could be a WAG. It appears more to keep Alzner around. But, who’s skating with whom? And that of course leads to the wild theories about who might be getting shipped out if Alzner stays. Because we don’t exactly need NINE defensemen, even if one of them is skating as a forward these days.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
cant have enough defensemen. especially when you’ve got fragile ones (poti) and others who just aren’t that good (erskine)
by twistedlogic on Dec 5, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
It’s a game against Philadelphia, so it’s going to be a slugfest.
Green is always a lock
Poti is back, and he’s going to play
Juice is playing well and he’s huge, so they need him in there
Erskine is the team’s best enforcer. Need him in Philly
That leaves Schultz, Alzner, and Pothier. I’m just glad it wasn’t Schultz who was scratched. He’s been playing very well.
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 5, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Out of those last three, I’d scratch Pothier, too.
I’m going to be spending the next several hours convincing myself that the team could live without Erskine against the Flyers…
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
This is going to be a message game. I’m OK in December coming in with less than our best lineup when we know they’ll be headhunting.
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 5, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
He’ll probably in there because it’s Philly and they want to give Alzner as much time as they can. That said, the 4-3 pairing sucked eggs the last time they were in Philly.
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by Bald Pollack on Dec 5, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Because
the game’s being played at Concussions R Us?
by redlineblue on Dec 5, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
#needsmorebackwardsR
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daaaaamn.
I know you’re right. I can’t even do that cool blu-block quote from another post. (Skating the web on double-runners….)
I haven’t tried to figure it out yet
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Blockquote tutorial
Copy text from article/tweet/email/whatevs that you want to quote, then go to reply window @ the Rink. Paste text into reply window, then highlight again and click on the blue apostrophe icon that’s between the strikeout icon and the link icon.
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It will add the HTML [blockquote] and [/blockquote] tags to your higlighted text and will make your quote look like this:
Copy text from article/tweet/email/whatevs that you want to quote, then go to reply window @ the Rink. Paste text into reply window, then highlight again and click on the blue apostrophe icon that’s between the strikeout icon and the link icon.
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Copy it from YNC’s sig, and hit paste.
Or google “cyrillic alphabet” and find it there.
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 5, 2009 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
blue apostrophe icon
…or quotation mark if you want to be picky.
I’m having some friends over at 5 to diagram sentences. Want to join us. It gets pretty crazy sometimes, so be sure to drink plenty of fluids.
by mechanicsville on Dec 5, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
change your keyboard settings to russian, i have it in “z” button that way
You're out of touch
I'm out of time
But I'm out of my head when you're not around
I go to the character map and copy/paste. In Windows it’s Start —> Programs —> Accessories —> System Tools —> Character Map
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I still can’t find it
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if you add the russian keybord to your settings, it’s easier to just change it to get the letters and then change it back.
You're out of touch
I'm out of time
But I'm out of my head when you're not around
I’m not against this move. He’s probably looking for size and probably doesn’t want to risk Pothier in a game like this when we know the Flyers will be out for blood.
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Let’s hide him in the playoffs, too, then, when Philly and anyone else will be out for blood.
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Exactly. If he can’t hack it now then why is he in the league?
Listen to Ol' Hank Murphy and eat your damn onions.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 5, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
It’s December. Keep him fresh. Let Erskine deter Philly from harming the folks who will be in the lineup.
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 5, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
I guess that’s a valid point. But (for the millionth time) Potsy is prone to benching. I’m not convinced that BB is just afraid of him getting hurt. If we are protecting people from the big bad Flyers then why don’t we just call up a bunch of spare parts and let them play.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 5, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Because he’s one of the 6 best.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 5, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Of those, he’s the least likely to give you 8 good games in a row. Also the closest to ‘a Poti’, who’s overdue to play. Throw in size, month, and hungry Flyers at home.
Seems like a sensible—and minor—decision to me.
It’s minor, I agree. I’m not that up in arms about it. Unfortunately, Potsy has plenty of competition for the “least likely to give you 8 good games in a row” on our D corps. I just don’t like the idea that Potsy should be sat to protect him; if that’s the case then he should be moved.
Listen to Ol' Hank Murphy and eat your damn onions.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 5, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Potsy has plenty of competition for the "least likely to give you 8 good games in a row" on our D corps.
I started to say “10” and, y’know…
I thought Potsy (we got the wrong Weber!) looked better vs Boston, SJS, MIN than in some less truculent environs. I understand nothing about Caps blueline except for my comfy chairs in Schultz, Alzner lobbies.
Well, at least you’re in the right lobbies. D is tougher to evaluate than any other position, especially with the inconsistent crew we have so I don’t blame you at all.
Listen to Ol' Hank Murphy and eat your damn onions.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 5, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
If ShaMo was in for Potsy, I’d be upset. Erskine I’m OK with. Long as it doesn’t happen in the Spring.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 5, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
BOYCOTT SI.COM
Those frickin’ stooges only get near our game cause the Enquirer can’t be bothered. Now they’re trying to strip Alex for page views. Don’t fall for it! If they have anything valid or relevant to say about Hockey, Caps, or Ovechkin, they cribbed it from sources you already use. BOYCOTT SI.COM No page hits for shitty, derivative, sensationalist drivel.
Thank you.
by redlineblue on Dec 5, 2009 12:04 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Because he can’t clutch that other thing?
\CIed
by red army line on Dec 5, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
I will be giving my full support to the Blackhawks tonight in the absence of Sid the Kid. (I would be giving my full support to them tonight, with or without Crosby.)
I won’t be watching the game. I can’t even watch the Caps tonight due to my husband’s office Christmas party tonight.
Rocking the Red since 1975
He never has. That would require finding it first.
FЯEE ALEX
by gotsparkly on Dec 5, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That photo of Elliot is pretty funny.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
And the Caps confirm.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
another thousand or so comments?
"Baseball is drama with an endless run and an ever-changing cast." - Joe Garagiola
Chowdah Chatter - an outlet for my random thoughts and such.
And the gamesmanship continues. Good for George. At the very least, he’ll be a boost to Hershey and he can’t be any worse the Giroux.
As long as he doesn’t bump MP down.
Listen to Ol' Hank Murphy and eat your damn onions.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 5, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
Mark French and Doug Yingst beg to differ
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 5, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
The most bizarre story of the season. I hope he’s got an appropriately professional perspective…
"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."
by CapitalCentre on Dec 5, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, I’m sure there are things that are plenty more bizarre.
"Baseball is drama with an endless run and an ever-changing cast." - Joe Garagiola
Chowdah Chatter - an outlet for my random thoughts and such.
OK, you’re right, slashing your own goalie’s ear probably is more bizarre.
"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."
by CapitalCentre on Dec 5, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
HOORAY!
This has been approved by the new Chris Bourque lobby 2.0
There will be a Яeckoning for the wЯecking ball
by Steck It Out on Dec 5, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
I hope they send him through some sort of decontamination shower before he gets back into a Bears sweater.
I could have been equipment manager, but nooooo!
by boutros23 on Dec 5, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Our first “little French guy” returns. (Or should I say “le petit homme francais”.) Our other two little French guys are Aucoin (back in Hershey) and Perreault.)
Rocking the Red since 1975
Non non, madame. C’est seulement un petit homme francais – Perreault!
Bourque and Coiner are Massachusetts boys ;)
Their ancestry is French. And CBo’s pere is a French Canadian boy. Born in Quebec and his full name was “Raymond Jean Bourque”. If that’s not a dead giveaway of French heritage, I don’t know what is.
Don’t know when Aucoin’s ancestors came over to America.
Rocking the Red since 1975
I take it, you don’t like Chris Bourque even if his pere is French Canadian.
Rocking the Red since 1975
I do love that he’s like “I’m Chris Bourque and I don’t really care who my father is, I’m not going to show up to a Calder Cup party sober/clean myself up to attend my brother’s draft/you get the picture.”
And to be more fair, it was a Calder Cup celebration party. You don’t think they earned themselves a little freedom to cut loose?
Listen to Ol' Hank Murphy and eat your damn onions.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 5, 2009 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
oh, no, I do. I just think that most other sons of HHoF’ers would try to be more “like dad” or what they imagine that to be, than allow themselves to be honest to themselves. I like that about him.
Oh, I thought you were using it as a knock on him. My bad.
Listen to Ol' Hank Murphy and eat your damn onions.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 5, 2009 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly so. And yes, there was alcohol present there – I had the opportunity to drink from the Cup, though I didn’t. Giroux also showered the crowd with champagne.
They sure as hell did cut loose – and damn it was fun.
FЯEE ALEX
Why didn’t you drink from it? I question that judgment.
Listen to Ol' Hank Murphy and eat your damn onions.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 5, 2009 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
I didn’t feel that I as a fan had the right to. Sure, I followed them and cheered for them, but I didn’t do the work.
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Boo. If you were offered, then you have the right to. The only thing I think is off limits for fans is raising the Cup above the head, because that is a sign of triumph that fans didn’t earn. I guess it’s a bit of an illusory distinction but that’s how I feel.
Listen to Ol' Hank Murphy and eat your damn onions.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 5, 2009 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot.
I love me some GMGM. Especially Even if, as I suspect, Bourque’s a pedigreed Giroux, well…
The man’s clearly quite mad, and who wants to play $50M poker with a madman?
He’s going to Hershey, and I’d guess it’s a longshot for him to make it back here anytime soon.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Why? It’s a move with virtually no downside that at the very least makes Hershey more competitive and gives the Caps a low cost option for short term call ups.
by David M. Getz on Dec 5, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Been there – done that. He’s proven to not have enough upside. There’re likely others out there who could bring what he brings now and at least provide a greater upside possibility.
You’ve got to make the most out of each and every slot at all levels of every organization to achieve the ultimate success.
Let me preface this by saying that I agree with DMG. There is no downside to a move like this. But I don’t agree with the blanket statement
You’ve got to make the most out of each and every slot at all levels of every organization to achieve the ultimate success.
If I had to choose between a winning AHL team with mostly tweeners or a borderline AHL team made up of prospects that have a shot at the NHL…I’m going prospects every time, especially when the AHL team is teaching the same system.
Right now the Caps are spoiiled in that regard…
I am most certainly not in the pro-Chris Bourque lobby and never have been – so for now I’ll just bite my tongue and say I hope he does very well in Hershey and at the very least makes the players around him better.
And if he does get the call up to DC, he’d damn well better rise to the occasion. Maybe I’m alone, but I haven’t been impressed w/ him anywhere but in the A.
There is part of me that feels bad for him, though. On a team with much less depth (i.e. not the Caps or Pens) he gets a shot at being a regular in the lineup; maybe not on the top line, but certainly a regular. This move just seems to doom him to more time in AHL purgatory.
Maybe I’m alone, but I haven’t been impressed w/ him anywhere but in the A.
I definitely haven’t been impressed with him in DC as a top-6er, but he definitely brought some energy to the team.
I’m not even in the same state as the Bourque camp, but if given a choice between a Girioux and a Bourque, I choose Bourque.
He did bring energy to the team – particularly in his last few call-ups. That being said, so did Perreault (and with better offensive output, unless I’m mistaken).
I’m not even in the same state as the Bourque camp, but if given a choice between a Girioux and a Bourque, I choose Bourque.
God…that’s like Sophie’s Choice, isn’t it?? But yeah, I suppose between the two I’d take the midget. If I have to choose. Do I really have to choose?
If you believe the official stats, Perreault is taller, but CBo might outweigh him.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
I’ve seen both of them off of skates. So…no, I do not believe the official stats ;) Sorry, Matty, but 5’10" my ass.
Perreaultshouldnotbepluggedintostandardsockets.ImproperhandlingmaydamageyourPerreaultoryourpsyche.Microvechkinnametagsoldseparately.
He’s had a couple of chances to stick in the bigs now, and hasn’t. Why plug in another AAAA player into the system?
I suppose it’s not the end of the world, and perhaps he could be used as part of a trade to a team looking for warm bodies…but I’m done with Chris Bourque.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
Seems like you agree with both of us! It depends on how you define “ultimate success.” I suspect most in this neighborhood would see that as the Caps winning the Cup. A strong AHL team is nice, but should be maybe an incidental by-product of filling the team with prospects that could one day challenge for a slot on the Caps roster in a manner which improves the team. Each slot should be filled with that in mind. Bourque, for all his positive attributes, doesn’t seem to pass that test.
If I had to choose between a winning AHL team with mostly tweeners or a borderline AHL team made up of prospects that have a shot at the NHL…I’m going prospects every time, especially when the AHL team is teaching the same system.
For starters, Hershey would never, ever, go down that road. They’re in the business of winning titles and if the Caps demanded otherwise, I have no doubt the Bears would end their partnership with the Capitals. Secondly, and maybe more importantly, the AHL is such a rugged league that putting a team of mostly prospects on the ice against grown men is just asking for disaster and injuries. C-Bo will be a valuable addition to that team and I wouldn’t give up on him making it back to the NHL and being more productive his second time around. Glen Metropolit is living proff that it can happen.
by b.orr4 on Dec 5, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Trudat.
But CBo demonstrated himself expendable, in that ‘low cost/short-term’ role. If i thought it were a stupid move, I’d say that instead. I’m saying Kris Beech x AnGus over the square root of Giroux over pi is the square root of a Nylander. I can dig it.
the square root of a Nylander
I’m way rusty with my math, and the calculator’s not handy, but isn’t the square root of zero equal to zero?
The square root of a negative doesn’t exist over the set of real numbers. Hence, by taking Nyles’ square root, we can make him imaginary, and take his cap hit off the books.
by red army line on Dec 5, 2009 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
LOL. Pensburgh was just wondering if CBo cleared waivers so they could play him ‘cos Crosby’s groin wonked out again.
FЯEE ALEX
FTR I like the folks at Pensburgh and I wish Sid didn’t have that issue. Stars sitting with chronic injury = no fun for hockey fans.
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Heh. Well, it’s about time for Crosby to slow down again and let Geno pick up the slack.
I don’t think any star will top Gaborik for the most oft chronic injury title though. Minny fans really had no fun there :(
This actually made me laugh over at Pensblog:
No use even watching the rest of this NHL season. We know what’s going to happen. Bourque’s gonna score some goal against the Pens that is going to hurt the Pens’ chances to get into the playoffs/advance in the playoffs.
Say what you will about them (and I could say a lot) but their relentless bashing of little Bourque has been pretty awesome to watch. Although I guess now we should come to his defense? Um…how dare you, you…mean Pens fans.
And i laugh my tail off. Seriously … if for nothing else in the org, this is absolute comedy gold for the reaction of Pens fans.
What goes around comes around.
FЯEE ALEX
I just can’t believe Chris Smith is back!
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 5, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
And this year Gaborik is healthy and productive. Of course, he seems to providing the Rag’ entire offense.
Rocking the Red since 1975
its only December 5. And he’s slotted to play in the Olympics. That groin is going to tear and tear spectacularly. The only thing that make Minny fans happier than a Cal Clutterbuck hit is the promise of Gabby having an epic groin injury and the Rags not making the playoffs as a result.
I love what Burnside (or someone else) wrote over the summer:
“Gaborik can’t walk across the street without pulling his groin”
by red army line on Dec 5, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
100% agreed. Hate the Pens but I like Pensburgh. Hooks and Frank are good people. And definitely, talent out of the lineup is bad for the whole NHL.
Listen to Ol' Hank Murphy and eat your damn onions.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 5, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
They’re also into conspiracy theories.
I wonder if this whole Chris Bourque thing was a conspiracy by the Capitals to steal our secrets. Maybe they told Ray Shero good things about him, and then he came here and played crappy on purpose while we were weakened by injuries and couldn’t send him down… all the while taking notes on our secret strategy for victory.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
by gfcaps fan on Dec 5, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Star Wars: Penguins vs Capitals vs Flyers
by red army line on Dec 5, 2009 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
I remember that first game at MCI Center well. Especially the laser show that preceded it and lasted about an hour.
The Daily Forehand -- SB Nation's Tennis Destination.
Broad Street Hockey.
Well, see, you have a chance to return the favor now.
Excited about the coaching change? I’m expecting the Flyboys to kick it into gear within a game or two and shoot up the standings. Too much talent there to underachieve all season, and the change at the top will produce the focus and effort needed for a winning streak. Or so I predict.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
Agreed. Flyers got a lot of talent, they just need focus.
But not tonight. Tonight they should be flustered and fidgety.
FЯEE ALEX
Speaking of tonight, I’m watching the post-morning skate video, and Bruce sure seems tired, or maybe even sick. Maybe he just wasn’t expecting to get the earlier ice time this morning.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Could go either way tonight, I think. The Philly could be still shellshocked and take a while to find their game legs. In which case the Caps have a decent chance to win.
Or they could be energized from the get-go and put a hurting on the Caps.
But over the medium term, Philly will start clicking on all cylinders, I reckon. An offensive system with top-end forward talent, plus a stalward blue line to cover for the balls-to-the-wall attack is a real nice combo.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
PHI doesn’t like the Caps. They are always up for games against us. Coaching change or not I’d expect them to come out hard.
Listen to Ol' Hank Murphy and eat your damn onions.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 5, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Why was Stevens canned in the first place?
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 5, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
sheeesh.
Picky, picky, picky. Next you’ll sling me some hash about ‘scoreless in 8 straight periods’…
I don’t get Duhatschek’s (or anyone’s) outcry about the “loophole” in the CBA that the Bruins used on Savard and other teams have used on long term deals for older guys. Sure, they are getting Savard at a lower salary cap hit than his market value in the short term, but in the long term they have him at a much larger salary cap hit than he is worth. It’s more of a tradeoff than it is a loophole. He complains about the Pronger deal, but I think everyone agrees that it will be a huge burden for Philly in the long term. They aren’t exactly getting away with murder using some loophole in the CBA.
I also find it funny that he criticizes the fact that Savard will likely retire because his “egregious” extension runs out when he is 39, yet he praises the Keith deal. By my math, when Keith’s extension runs he will be a day older than Savard will be when his contract runs out. How is one long-term front loaded contract perfectly acceptable, but the other is not? I don’t know the yearly breakdown on Keith’s contract, but by signing him for 13 years the Blackhawks are getting Keith for a salary cap hit ($5.538 million) that is way lower than his market value for the next several years.
If this is really a problem, I don’t buy that it can be avoided by trying to investigate the contract negotiations. I think the NHL is getting into very murky waters if they are going to try and claim they can view correspondences from private negotiations, and it will be almost impossible to improve intent. Even if they can get their hands on incriminating emails or whatnot, GMs and agents will just wise up and keep that stuff legit. The only other solutions would be to make the cap hit equal to the yearly salary (which I don’t think is any less susceptible to abuse) or require that salary is spread evenly throughout the life of a contract (which I don’t think will make much of a difference at all).
Bottom line is, I don’t buy the Savard, Hossa, Pronger, etc. contracts as terrible exploitation of a loophole. Teams aren’t avoiding being restricted by the salary cap, they are merely delaying the point at which the salary cap will hurt them.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Dec 5, 2009 1:27 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
well. to be fair, only big-market teams can afford the “life” contracts – i don’t think Phoenix or Nashville (etc.) will ever be able to pay that kind of front-loaded, high risk contract So it’s sort of an exploitation that way, but in general I would agree with you.
The inherent inequality in spending abilities of big market and small market teams is going to be present regardless what the salary cap looks like. I don’t know how you can change that short of total revenue sharing.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Dec 5, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Bourque Lovers/Haters
Here’s a fanpost/thread for your use/enjoyment.
"We’re still working on some things over in Europe, and we’ve been close in the last week or so. Some things get in the way, but we’re just trying to work that out, and hopefully it can be worked out soon."
We’ve moved to a different thread.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 5, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
Gotta say, I love when the NHL staggers the starts like this so there is hockey all day. Even if it’s just one or two early games at a time.
Listen to Ol' Hank Murphy and eat your damn onions.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 5, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
They weren’t great. I’m enjoying Blues-Kings much more.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 5, 2009 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed, though I’m keeping an eye on the SECC game.
Listen to Ol' Hank Murphy and eat your damn onions.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 5, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
Yes - It's Confirmed Milbury = Putz...
RE: Even if some blowhard thinks it “would be fun to see” him “meet a couple of fourth-line enforcers down the road.”
Nothing more to say, other than the three commenters to Milbury’s article are even bigger putzes…
by markbona-capsfan99 on Dec 5, 2009 2:55 PM EST reply actions
GMGM snagged #8 on Puck Daddy’s “Ten Best GM’s of the Decade”
8. George McPhee, Washington Capitals
The decade timeline for the Capitals: Division titles, Jagr, payroll explosion, extreme purge of talent to cut payroll, 59-point season under Bruce Cassidy, Ovechkin, lockout, Backstrom, Boudreau, division titles.
The two constants in that decade were McPhee and owner Ted Leonsis, who had his GM’s back during some very turbulent times. But GMGM (as he’s called) survived and eventually thrived, although there are still questions about his ability to get this Capitals team “over the hump” and into a Cup. His draft history has some home runs and middling results; the Michael Nylander(notes) free-agent deal was, in hindsight, one of the bigger busts of the cap era. But securing Alex Ovechkin(notes) as the franchise’s star through 2021 was essential and impressive.
Bottoming out helped rebuild the team, but McPhee made some solid moves to expedite the process and capture the imagination of a fan base again.
(to the surprise of no one, Kenny Holland was #1)
Jim Rutherford at 4? No thanks. I’m just not nearly as impressed with him as everyone else seems to be. Brind’amour is on a terrible contract, so is Samsonov. To date, Staal is ridiculously overpaid. They don’t have much of a farm to speak of. He wants to get younger, but he traded JJ away in a fit of impatience. Then he trades their most recent first round pick for Tlusty. His asset management and drafting leave a lot to be desired when you move past the Cup. And really, is that Cup more a product of his astute trades, or Cam Ward getting hot as balls at the right time? He’s not the worst GM, but there are more than 3 guys I’d take ahead of him, that’s for sure.
Listen to Ol' Hank Murphy and eat your damn onions.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 5, 2009 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
And really, is that Cup more a product of his astute trades, or Cam Ward getting hot as balls and having their opponents get some very key injuries at the right time?
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Dec 5, 2009 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
Bourque’s back!….and Perrault has made me forget all about him.
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