Wednesday Caps Clips: Flash Returns
by J.P. on Oct 21, 2009 6:38 AM EDT
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- Tomas Fleischmann skated a full practice with his teammates for the first time this season yesterday and felt great. [Washington Times, Washington Post, Capitals Insider, In The Room, Caps365 (video)]
- Despite returning to practice, it's unclear when Flash will return to the lineup, and "[i]n all likelihood, it won't be Thursday or Saturday, Coach Bruce Boudreau said." The fact that he's ineligible to come off Long-Term Injured Reserve for a game before next Tuesday increases that likelihood to 100%.
- In case you missed it, the Caps signed 2009 third round pick Cody Eakin yesterday. Perhaps they were inspired by this showing over the weekend, not to mention his 9-goal, 3-assist start in his first dozen games of the season. [Capitals]
- The Caps are up two spots to sixth in our latest SBN power rankings, down one (huh?) to tenth at SI, up two to seventh at CBS Sports, up nine to 13th at FOX Sports, and up two to sixth at CBC.
- Early season League-wide under- and overachievers. [VFtCS]
- Is Alex Ovechkin the most exciting player in NHL history? [Ed Frankovic's Blog]
- "According to a report in Russia, Nylander's agent tried to sell his client to Dynamo Moscow. They were not interested. ... Dynamo Moscow cited Nylander's being benched all the time without any play time as one of the reasons for refusal." Interesting. [@dchesnokov]
- 10 Things You Should Know About... Chris Clark. Good to see this feature return to it's original title after a week of "10 Burning Questions With..." Of note, the last two subjects have both since missed games due to injury. Good luck, Cap'n! [Capitals]
- The least interesting Caps-related news ever? Could be. [Sun Gazette]
- Nicklas Backstrom on his new website. [Caps365 (video)]
- Steve Kolbe catches up with Brendan Morrison. [Capitals (audio)]
- Don't expect a big drop in the salary cap next year: "The number will be flat next season, at worst $1 million lower." [CBC.ca]
- Start reparing yourself now for, "And with the last pick in the 2010 NHL Entry Draft, the Washington Capitals select... David Bondra." [Central Scouting (PDF) via WCHB]
- Dinamo Minsk fired their head coach yesterday. That coach? Glen Hanlon. [FanShot, KHL]
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So if that report from Russia is true might we see #92 ‘showcased’ in a few games? That would be odd.
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Well that reasoning does provide justification for denying the move, but if the team showcases him only to have Dynamo reject the move, then you’re back at square one, and have possibly burned some game results to boot.
"It's an incredible place. Every seat feels like it's right on top of you. So can't we just make it official? Every big American soccer game should be played in RFK. We need the home-field advantage. Done and done."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 21, 2009 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions
then you’re back at square one, and have possibly burned some game results to boot.
Flip side of that is maybe he plays well and generates more interest
If he were capable of playing well in the current system, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
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by J.P. on Oct 21, 2009 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
There’s no question about whether or not Nylander fits in BB’s system. Maybe I just don’t have any memory left, but how many games did he really lose for the Caps last year? All of us are painfully aware of the Caps’ salary cap issues.
I guess my question is how much harm could he really do playing 7 minutes?
Probably more good than he could do – at least in the eyes of the coach and GM.
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Yeah I know. I’m just…like everyone else…fishing for some sort of closure and am in a glass is half full kinda mood this morning.
Yeah, but the longer this saga continues, the less optimistic I feel about a solution.
by mechanicsville on Oct 21, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
And yet, the closer we get to one. /silverlining
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And thank you, dear moderator, for easing my frustration just a little.
by mechanicsville on Oct 21, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
What is to see that wasn’t seen in 70+ games last year? If they said “give him a couple games so we can see he still has legs/vision/whatever,” then I’d breathe deeply and deal with it if there was any chance of moving him.
"It's an incredible place. Every seat feels like it's right on top of you. So can't we just make it official? Every big American soccer game should be played in RFK. We need the home-field advantage. Done and done."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 21, 2009 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions
After reading that, to clarify, I’d do the trial if Moscow was a little more than keen on bringing him on, i.e., it was the next to last thing to do to get him over there.
"It's an incredible place. Every seat feels like it's right on top of you. So can't we just make it official? Every big American soccer game should be played in RFK. We need the home-field advantage. Done and done."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 21, 2009 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. This sounds like a face-saving cop out of sorts (“Hey, it’s not our fault we’re not bringing in a world-class center – his team won’t play him”). They’ve seen what he can and can’t do.
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Yup. Smells like a pretense to me.
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by Gould Old Days on Oct 21, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Not implying you shouldn’t keep linking to these “reports” about Nylander, but I have totally washed my hands on any stories about Nylander and the KHL/Swedish Elite League/Swiss League, etc. I feel like Charlie Brown and Lucy keeps pulling that football back from me. I’m convinced now that Nylander’s not going anywhere this season and until someone shows me video proof of him playing next to Jagr wearing one of those uniform covered with logos, I’m not going to think otherwise. If the Caps are going to get some salary relief it’s going to come by moving someone else on the team, not from Nylander.
As a reminder, in the offseason several of us (me, DMG if I remember right) predicted November or December. We could see this October hemming and hawing coming.
I think someone in Europe is going to get a hell of a deal, and I think we’re all in for a fair amount more of this rumor crap before it happens.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 21, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope/pray you’re right. Like I said, when I see him wearing one of those funny jerseys I’ll believe it.
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by J.P. on Oct 21, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Doesn’t get much funnier than the Whale.
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by Gould Old Days on Oct 21, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I got a much older, more bitter Nylander autograph and the quality of the signature reflects as much.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 21, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
All Hail the Whale!
one of the things that makes me sad is that with each passing year, there are fewer and fewer Whaler jerseys in the VC stands when Carolina comes to visit.
I have a soft spot for the Whalers because they were the only club to call me for an interview when I was about to graduate from college and desperately hoping to get a job with a hockey team. Spent a pretty cool day-and-a-half in Hartford.
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by CapitalCentre on Oct 21, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
there is a chasing a white whale angle here somewhere.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Oct 21, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
And a Fail Whale angle as well.
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Why is it that everyone remembers the Whale with such happiness? They were lousy. Why aren’t there a ton of Nordiques references all over the internet? Oh for the good ole days when I could wear fleur de lis and a weird humanized N on my sweater.
I always thought it kinda looked like an elephant myself.
Did the Nordiques get a shout-out in Mallrats? No. That’s why the Whalers are cooler.
by RedBirdie on Oct 21, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
lovable losers? Kinda like the Cubs? The fact that you could get your shopping and hockey watching done at the same place may have held a special place in the hearts of those who grew up in the mall social scene of the 80’s and early 90’s?
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by Sombrero Guy on Oct 21, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Why aren’t there a ton of Nordiques references all over the internet?
Bias against French Canadians, obviously.
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Rec-a-raw.
"It's an incredible place. Every seat feels like it's right on top of you. So can't we just make it official? Every big American soccer game should be played in RFK. We need the home-field advantage. Done and done."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 21, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
“…Dynamo Moscow cited Nylander’s being benched all the time without any play time as one of the reasons for refusal.”
I read that sentence entirely differently. What my eyes saw was. “Dynamo Moscow wasn’t going to pick up the player unless the Capitals picked up a larger share of the payment.”
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Oct 21, 2009 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Caps are paying Nylander $5.5m this year. Period. He will either be a $4.875m cap hit to them, or a $0 cap hit. I doubt, at this point, that there’s too much haggling over how much the acquiring club compensates the Caps for his services.
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then there should be zero risk for a European team to take him on, right? Aside from daily meals and housing? I dunno, there must be some kind of compensation negotiations going on between the Caps and other clubs to cause a stalemate.
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by Sombrero Guy on Oct 21, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
there must be some kind of compensation negotiations going on between the Caps and other clubs to cause a stalemate.
Yup, there are. As JP pointed out, the Caps pay his salary, period. If he goes elsewhere, that salary comes off the books, but still gets paid. As much as the Caps would like the cap relief, they can’t just allow themselves to pay the full salary for someone who isn’t playing for them without getting anything in return (note the irony of paying him to sit in the press box). So the negotiations are over what the receiving team will pay the Caps for Nyls’ services. It’s somewhere between $0 and $5.5M. I don’t know where the break point is for Ted — e.g., if a KHL team is offering $3M and Ted won’t let him go for less than $4M.
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Oct 21, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
As much as the Caps would like the cap relief, they can’t just allow themselves to pay the full salary for someone who isn’t playing for them without getting anything in return
I don’t think that’s true because, as J.P. noted, the team’s going to pay him 5.5 million and it’s up to them whether he counts for a roster space and 4.875 million against the cap or counts for $0 against the cap and opens up a roster spot.
At this point I imagine the team’s still trying to see if they can get something back, but I also think they’d let him go on loan for nothing if they had to.
I’d think that “the break point” is a downward sloping line/curve with $ on the vertical axis and date on the horizontal – I’d imagine Ted’s willing to take less (percentage-wise) as we get further along.
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I’ll buy that. The chances of him being loaned for free (as DMG suggests) are much higher right before the trade deadline, when GMGM is begging Ted for the cap room and Ted decides a cup run is worth more to him that whatever money he thought he could get for Nyls’s services.
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by Scott in Shaw on Oct 21, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I read that sentence entirely differently. What my eyes saw was. "Dynamo Moscow wasn’t going to pick up the player unless the Capitals picked up a larger share of the payment."
It’s like you’re implying a fledgling hockey league has money problems or something…
"It's an incredible place. Every seat feels like it's right on top of you. So can't we just make it official? Every big American soccer game should be played in RFK. We need the home-field advantage. Done and done."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 21, 2009 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Nylander’s agent Paul Theofanous did call us on Monday and offered the services of his ward. And he was ready to even postpone the signing of the contract and offered to take Nylander for a monthly tryout.
As far as I know we were not the first in Russia who were offered to look at the veteran; this player has been trying to move to the KHL for the third month already. But Dynamo decided that they don’t need the Swede. We doubt that the hockey player who missed almost all of the last season, could become of real value for the team.
“[M]issed almost all of last season”? He played 72 regular season games. Further, there’s nothing for Nylander’s agent to “postpone signing.” Effing assclown.
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I wonder if “effing assclown” translates into Russian.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 21, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
It does: Яшин Алексей
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by J.P. on Oct 21, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
the hockey player who missed almost all of the last season
He played 72 regular season games
Having watched his play in most of those 72 games, I think you’re both right.
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by Gould Old Days on Oct 21, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
I appreciate the rec’s, but how did this comment turn green before the one right above it? JP’s line is true brilliance
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by Gould Old Days on Oct 21, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
New policy: “Spot on, JP” gets auto-rec’d.
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JP, can I send my man-of-all-work over to wash your limo?
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by CapitalCentre on Oct 21, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
misconception that J.P. is from Quebec?
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by Sombrero Guy on Oct 21, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Bwaaa haaa hhaaaaa.
"I tried to capture the spirit of the thing"
by tuvanhillbilly on Oct 21, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I would have totally missed that if not for google translate.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 21, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ll make it even easier on everyone. Hilarious.
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by Gould Old Days on Oct 21, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’d take a Bondra late in the draft. Worked once before.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
Unfortunately GMGM is gonna grab him in the 2nd.
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He held off on Ferraro’s kid!
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
Some interesting stuff in the CBC story. High spending teams (which is about everyone, isn’t it?) should be happy if it’s looking like the cap won’t go down by the previously thought $5 million or so. Good news for the Caps, I’d assume.
Another observation from the story — Okay, I’m not a hockey fan from the year one, and I understand why everyone thinks Gretzky deserves special treatment, but as it relates to his coaching contract with Phoenix, I don’t get it. It was a bad contract, bankrupcty generally lets you get out of contracts. Just because the team’s majority owner gave him a sweetheart deal in exchange for his name (because clearly it wasn’t his ability to coach) doesn’t mean the league or a new owner is required to assume the liabiltity. He needs to grow up.
More than that, I think the press needs to grow up. Basically, the only thing Gretzky said was “I want to take a little time.” The entire article is based only on him telling that same thing to anyone who asks.
He’s entitled to a break. It’s been less than a month since he got fired. He’s got more than enough money to take it easy for a bit. Everyone in Toronto needs to quit foaming at the mouth and let it go for a while (fat chance…)
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 21, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think if he shows up for anything public, he’s going to be peppered with questions about the deal, why didn’t he consider the looming clouds, why didn’t management recommend he step aside, and on and on. Because he may still have stake in whatever happens (and was the face of the franchise), it’s best he stays out of the way so as to not influence anything on it.
It’s a shame, for as much as the guy’s done for the sport, he’s made some abominable business decisions on the back end. Except for the perogies
"It's an incredible place. Every seat feels like it's right on top of you. So can't we just make it official? Every big American soccer game should be played in RFK. We need the home-field advantage. Done and done."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 21, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
My grow up comment has to do with how he’s been characterized throughout the saga, not the present issue of what does he do next. When his contract became a public issue, it was clear to me that no more than half of (it if that much) was being paid for him to coach, the rest was for the intangibles he was supposed to be bringing to the team. He could have softened public sentiment by saying something then, although I’m not sure what would have been appropriate. The silence, however, was deafening, in my opinion.
That TEB/BB Flash note regarding his eligibility to come off of LTIR is… uh… priceless. Gabby’s goof? TEB not knowing the rules? Or? (Guess: TEB misunderstood something and the rule didn’t occur to him. They should correct it stat.)
Boudreau’s shown in the past that (i) he doesn’t pay all that much attention to this stuff, and (ii) he’s willing to go with whatever a reporter tells him. I suspect he either didn’t know/remember that Flash is ineligible, or he wasn’t sure and figured that TEB knew better than he did.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 21, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Dobberhockey is usually better than this…
Alexandre Giroux – Hershey Bears. Giroux has been scoring goals at a Bret Hull-like clip over the past two AHL seasons, with 65 goals in Hershey’s last 75 regular season games. He has only had a few brief cups of coffee in the NHL, scoring three goals in 22 games, all but one coming with the Capitals. He has good size (6’3"), and obviously possesses elite goal scoring ability. He notched 60 goals in 2008-09 (and was absolutely white-hot during the Bears Calder Cup-winning run, scoring 15 goals in 22 games), and already has five through six games this season. I am sure there are knocks on him – skating, intensity, grit, and defensive play are the usual negative aspects of failed AHL-to-NHL scoring stars (Giroux’s plodding skating is his biggest weakness). However, he has never really been given a fair sniff at an NHL gig. I know that for every Alex Burrows or Peverley there are dozens similar to Fedor Fedorov and Josef Balej, but Giroux deserves a shot. He is definitely on my radar in all keeper leagues, and should be on yours too. He was passed over this off-season and opted to re-sign with Washington, but he is a UFA next summer.
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Yikes. That screams “I’m looking at numbers, not games.”
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I wondered down this road in Ranking the Capitals… it doesn’t lead anywhere.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 21, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Iwonderedwandered down this road in Ranking the Capitals… it doesn’t lead anywhere.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 21, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
The other night on the Caps post-game radio show, there must have been at least 6 or 7 calls demanding to know why Giroux wasn’t playing for the Caps. Every call went something like “he scored 60 goals at Hershey, he should be able to score at least 20 or 30 for the Caps.” After about the fifth call, I was about to drive my car into a pole out of frustration.
After about the fifth call, I was about to drive my car into a pole out of frustration.
I have the same reaction every time I tune in, whether the topic is Schultz, Theodore, Schultz or something else (or Schultz).
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Oh God, don’t even get me started on Schultz. I had this young guy behind me at the last game who was non-stop on Jeff all night. At one point when Green stepped up and allowed a 2-1 break with Schultz the only guy back, this idiot complained that it was Schultz’s fault for the odd-man break. And this was after he broke up the play. The topper was when he said Jeff was another Larry Murphy. It was all I could do to stop myself from turning around and saying that after Murphy got booed out of town, all he did was win four Cups and make the Hall of Fame.
I really hate know-it-all fans who don’t know shit.
Not like us. We’re all legit know-it-alls!
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
FOR ME TO POOP ON!
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by Gould Old Days on Oct 21, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I go out for a walk, and I get Triumph and Gob in one thread. What a country.
"It's an incredible place. Every seat feels like it's right on top of you. So can't we just make it official? Every big American soccer game should be played in RFK. We need the home-field advantage. Done and done."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 21, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
After about the fifth call, I was about to drive my car into a pole out of frustration.
"It's an incredible place. Every seat feels like it's right on top of you. So can't we just make it official? Every big American soccer game should be played in RFK. We need the home-field advantage. Done and done."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 21, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Frak! Eject.
"It's an incredible place. Every seat feels like it's right on top of you. So can't we just make it official? Every big American soccer game should be played in RFK. We need the home-field advantage. Done and done."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 21, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Keith Aucoin finished second to Giroux in AHL scoring last year (25-71-96). There wasn’t a player closer than 15 assists behind Aucoin, and Aucoin missed 10 AHL regular season games.
Anyone think he should be replacing Brendan Morrison on the second line?
If you've read this far...seek help.
If BMo hadn’t gotten off to a good start, I bet you’d hear some people calling for it.
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by J.P. on Oct 21, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What about Boyd Gordon or Quintin Laing, since he’s not been great on the PK?
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
Caps as a team are # 9 in the league in PK, giving up just 6 goals in 39 times shorthanded. I’m not ready to say that any of our killers are doing all that badly right now. This all may be small sample size effects/bad luck. We’ve seen enough from those two guys that we know what they can do.
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by Gould Old Days on Oct 21, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t disagree, but I’d like to start this conversation: Is the production that you might get from Aucoin more valuable than the defense you’d get from Gordon or Laing?
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
Explain.
(again, not disagreeing)
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
Just go look at the numbers or make your own decision about how they play.
IMO, Anything > 0
One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.
A little stronger than I’d put it. Unlike Giroux, Aucoin’s actually done something at the NHL level. He hasn’t had much opportunity this season (15:13 TOI overall). I do think Laing is more valuable than Aucoin, but Aucoin ain’t a zero. I’d be fine with him as the team’s 13th forward.
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by Gould Old Days on Oct 21, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I just think that a good penalty killer is going to end up doing more for you in terms of net goal differential than a borderline NHLer at 3rd/4th line C.
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Yeah, probably. Laing’s most likely gone as soon as Flash comes off LTIR anyway, and I doubt Gordon is going anywhere.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
But wouldn’t Laing as a PK forward be more valuable than Sloan? Sloan’s finding it harder to rotate into the starting 6 than Laing is in the Top 12 (granted, 14/16’s injuries have helped his cause, but still). Even if Laing got the requisite 4th line ES time, he’d still be more valuable than Brashear was last year.
"It's an incredible place. Every seat feels like it's right on top of you. So can't we just make it official? Every big American soccer game should be played in RFK. We need the home-field advantage. Done and done."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 21, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree – your 1st reserve at one position is usually more valuable than your 2nd at another (at least, here it is, imo).
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Do both guys have to clear waivers since they weren’t injury call-ups? not that anyone is gonna pick them up, but just curious…
Both Laing and Sloan must clear waivers to be assigned to Hershey. I’d think Laing has a better chance of doing so, though both are likely to clear.
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Yep. They both have to clear waivers. I spent a good deal of time yesterday reading Article 13 of the CBA.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 21, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
This is a great site explaining the waiver rules, btw.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 21, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
If it were March, I’d agree with you. I think the goal was to trade a D-man, in which case having Sloan around gives added flexibility. (Also, he played well enough in preseason to earn a spot on the team, but none of the other D could be sent down because you’d lose them for nothing). That situation had better be sorted out by spring.
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by Gould Old Days on Oct 21, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Good point. I buy that. Plus, Laing is more likely to clear waivers than Sloan.
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Hey, now that Savard’s on LTIR…?
/activating rumor twin powers
"It's an incredible place. Every seat feels like it's right on top of you. So can't we just make it official? Every big American soccer game should be played in RFK. We need the home-field advantage. Done and done."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 21, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Nylander to Boston for a 2nd and a 4th!
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hell, Nylander to Boston for a couple of pucks and a case of Sam Adams Oktoberfest.
by RedBirdie on Oct 21, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nylander to Boston for a… a… a…
…oh, just send us any old thing you want, Pete. Shoot, send us Trent!
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Oct 21, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
If we all strain hard enough, do you think we could will this to happen?
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
If it doesn’t work for constipation, it won’t work for this.
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by Gould Old Days on Oct 21, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We need a KHLaxative to help with our Nylander movement.
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by J.P. on Oct 21, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
If you read Dan Brown’s latest novel, if we all concentrate our thoughts on the same thing, we can move matter. So there’s that.
/noeticized
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Oct 21, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Just say “no” to noetics.
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by ThePeerless on Oct 21, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Piss off?
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Oct 21, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, didn’t scroll down and see SIS’s comment.
by red army line on Oct 21, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Btw, the B’s called up Trent Whitfield to take Savard’s roster spot. Bit of a drop-off there.
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I always liked Whitfield. He played hard.
His numbers are terrible, aren’t they…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 21, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
It ain’t just his numbers. But yeah, hard worker.
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No way, he’s pretty much a point-per-game player in the AHL, he should be able to put up fifty in the NHL!
by David Getz on Oct 21, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Boston Bruins General Manager Peter Chiarelli announced today that the club has placed forward Marc Savard on long term injured reserve (broken left foot) and has recalled forward Trent Whitfield from Providence on an emergency basis.
Good to see a former Cap get that job.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 21, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
…and just to make absolutely sure the waterbug quotient is amply filled in Boston, the B’s add Paille to the mix.
more kudos for Chiarelli.
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by bigonetimer on Oct 21, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Trent Whitfield sighting!
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Oct 21, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Not sure if this has been posted yet, but here’s a great article on IIHF about how the donk who wrote the book about anti-French bias is super wrong.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
I thought that article was…not so great myself. First he says “statistics can be manipulated” and uses the example of small sample sizes, but that’s clearly not an issue with the book itself which, by all accounts has been meticulously researched. Then goes on to refute the claims in the book by manipulating statistics. For example:
- He uses three years of data to suggest there isn’t a bias, a much smaller sample than Sirois, and different criteria – players in the NHL, whereas Sirois looks at not just players in the NHL but the barriers to entry for Quebecois players.
- He refutes the claim that there’s bias in selecting Canadian junior teams by stating that QMJHL teams haven’t fared that well in the Memorial Cup. But that’s really not all that relevant since that’s a team competition (and a very small, short tournament), and picking players for juniors is based on their individual performance.
- His story about Guy Hebert is anecdotal and disproves nothing.
He also makes absurd, hyperbole-filled statements like “if you agree with what he says, you are saying ALL NHL general managers and ALL coaches for the last 40 years have systematically and knowingly been prejudiced against francophone Quebeckers” which is absurd because (1) Sirois doesn’t say the prejudice is systematic and perpetrated “knowingly” and (2) he sure as heck doesn’t say every single person in the NHL has it.
So, basically, the article consists of (1) picking and choosing meaningless statistics to make the author’s point after accusing Siros of picking and choosing meaningless statistics without any evidence that he’s done so, (2) putting words in Siros’ mouth, and (3) making ridiculous inferences and implications that Siros didn’t intend and shooting them down.
The whole this is one giant knee-jerk straw-man argument and it’s the worst of the worst when it comes to debate.
by David Getz on Oct 21, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like Razor’s take. Note that Mason won RoY, not runner up.
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That is a good response. I don’t buy Sirois’ argument. Just because there aren’t as many successful Quebecoise in the league does not mean it’s due to bias. With the parity and level of competition in the NHL now I don’t believe for a second that teams are refusing to ice the best team possible because of ethnicity or nationality. But of course it just couldn’t be possible that other ethnic groups are just producing better NHL caliber hockey players than the French Canadians.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Oct 21, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
So umm about that horrible, punishing skate from yesterday...
“I was skating almost two months by myself and so the skate today wasn’t hard for me,” Fleischmann said. “I was just smiling to be with the guys on the ice and having fun. It felt like it was a longer summer, that’s all. Now I feel like it’s my training camp starting.”
-Flash on yesterdays practice.
One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.
Since Bruce seems so eager to have his treasured 14 back to kicking some serious ass with the big club, I guess a conditioning stint in Hershey is out of the question…
I watched the ATL-MON game last night, because I could, and because I wanted to have a look at our opponent in 2 of our next 4. I came away impressed with a few things about the ATL (with appropriate caveat that it’s MTL they were playing). Great game, too.
1) the Thrasher defense is good. Bogosian is strong at both ends of the rink and is going to be a pain in the ass for years. Enstrom doesn’t suck either.
2) the G, Pavelec, was spectacular last night…didn’t seem fazed at all by the rowdiness at the Bell Center. Outstanding glove hand and aggressively challenges the shooter. No rebounds. He had some Hab heads scratching (until the shootout).
3) Evander Kane can play. He sparked ATL’s tying goal and seemed a threat every time he was on the ice. Hal Gill was so impressed he just stood there and watched.
4) I want Colby Armstrong on my team. Bryan Little too.
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by bigonetimer on Oct 21, 2009 10:17 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
“GULP!”
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K. Lehtonen
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by ThePeerless on Oct 21, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Since Bruce seems so eager to have his treasured 14 back to kicking some serious ass with the big club, I guess a conditioning stint in Hershey is out of the question…
He can’t come back till next Tuesday, so I think we might see him in Hershey yet.
I’d be surprised if we don’t.
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Eric Fehr sure was…and this was a guy who didn’t have any leg problems.
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by bigonetimer on Oct 21, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
“Super-Flash” don’t need no conditioning “stint.” He just needs skates, a stick, and a mission…. for truth, justice, and the Capital Way!
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by ThePeerless on Oct 21, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
You know, now that you mention it, “Super-Flash” would be a great name for a superhero. Or maybe just “Flash”. Someone should look into that.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 21, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
In that case, I’ll be on the lookout for Flash up here in Frederick…
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 21, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Hal Gill was so impressed he just stood there and watched.
Rec’d for this line. I’m always a fan of snarky shots at Hal Gill.
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by Killer_Carlson on Oct 21, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I suppose this is our last chance ever to post this, eh?
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 21, 2009 10:36 AM EDT reply actions
How does Nylander feel about coaching?
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Glen/Mike… a matched set soon to be up on eBay
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by ThePeerless on Oct 21, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
in “former Caps/when injuries happen to hated rivals” news:
Teammates were told Gonchar has a broken bone near his hand or wrist, and he will be re-evaluated today to find its precise location. He is expected to miss at least a month.
and we all remember how god-awful the Penguins were last season without the de-facto Captain.
One might also remember how good they were when he came back — virtually concurrently with the change in coaches.
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by ThePeerless on Oct 21, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I put this question to the folks at Pensburgh, and I’m still scratching my head over it…
Dan Bylsma is 60-20-7 [edit: now 61-20-7] in two-plus years as a head coach (AHL and NHL records, combined) and won a Stanley Cup in his first playoff appearance as a head coach at any professional level. Is he that good or did he make a pact with the devil?
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by ThePeerless on Oct 21, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
or he has been fortunate to have very talented teams. I may not like the Waddle Bird or the Baby Waddlers, but they’re both talented, high-level teams. Its not like Bylsma has been stuck coaching the 05-06 Caps, or the 08-09 Bolts.
Those two possibilities are not mutually exclusive. Given how difficult it is to win the Stanley Cup, one might require both a high level of talent and the devil’s luck. (Not to be confused with the Devils’ luck, which largely resembles the trap.)
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No Semin/B.Gordon tomorrow night?
1) Looks like both Semin and B. Gordon won’t be playig tomorrow night and the caps will be reacalling two forwards from Hershey.
2) Any guesses who the “two forwards” might be? Would have to think that Aucoin wouldn’t be one as he didn’t look that effective last week. Perhaps Giroux and or Andrew Gordon?
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Aucoin would be one, almost certainly. The other one (if needed) could be one of those two or Jay Beagle, I’d randomly guess.
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Ha – I typed that and then saw this:
Keith Aucoin and Jay Beagle both practiced at first-line center Wednesday with the Hershey Bears, and then Aucoin left practice early.
In light of the injury situation in Washington, the guess is that Aucoin was recalled to the Caps. But there was no official confirmation of a transaction in Hershey.
The Caps, according to the Washington Post and Washington Times, may be poised to recall two forwards. If they take two, given his hot start, Alex Giroux would seem a good bet to be a second forward recalled.
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Throw in the fact that GMGM likes to replace guys with AHL players that play the same role and Giroux looks like a decent bet. Though Aucoin for Gordon doesn’t exactly fit.
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As much as it seems Giroux is never going to be an NHL’er, using the Caps rule of like-type players, he’s the Semin replacement (that’s who he was replacing up here last year, right?). Although with the hot start, his linemate Andrew Gordon might possibly be a good replacement, too. Those more knowledgeable, correct me where necessary.
FanShot on this is up for discussin’
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Today’s “whoa!” moment:
@TarikElBashir I’m hearing that Michael Nylander is headed to AHL Grand Rapids for a conditioning stint. Hope to have more soon.
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Told ya.
FWIW, Hershey doesn’t play Grand Rapids any time soon, so that conspiracy theory can die before it gets off the ground.
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I ran right over here to see what everyone was saying. I think “whoa” probably sums it up.
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by CapitalCentre on Oct 21, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Recced for referencing my favorite movie.
by CaptainAwesome on Oct 21, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec’d for a damn snazzy avatar.
"It's an incredible place. Every seat feels like it's right on top of you. So can't we just make it official? Every big American soccer game should be played in RFK. We need the home-field advantage. Done and done."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 21, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
more like “I’m sorry, what the fuck?”
TEB just wants to make Mr. Bird cry. Like the Wings need any more bloated contracts.
It would have nothing to do with the Detroit Red Wings – he’d still be Caps property.
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a shame, then. I still maintain that Detroit owes the Caps for the epic beatdown that was 1998. Taking Nyls seems like a fair trade to me.
They paid us back with (the pick used on) Green and Fleischmann for Lang.
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OK, then why? Grand Rapids short on centers who skate in circles? (No, I’m not buying a trade out west.)
Presumably they’re interested. Simple as that.
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Detroit’s pretty short in the AHL right now – lots of new guys in their NHL lineup this year plus callups to replace Franzen.
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Which NHL team is Grand Rapids affiliated with (if any)? Isn’t it, like, Detroit?
by red army line on Oct 21, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
What kind of swedish mind-cluster is This??? Who’d waive Movement to Grand Rapids, for Krejci’s sake?
Maybe there’s a big Swedish community there?
by red army line on Oct 22, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
So, for starters.. if he is assigned there, his cap comes off the books for the caps… so even if this doesn’t result in a trade we’re still headed in the right direction right?
Though I can’t imagine him waiving his NMC without something in the works…
A conditioning assigment is limited in duration.
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He does have to consent to the move – any player has to in a conditioning stint, regardless of a no-move clause.
He does still count against the cap (and the 23-man roster).
He can be there max. two weeks.
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The circle thing is getting worn out.
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Michael Nylander on conditioning assignment…
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by ThePeerless on Oct 21, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
If Tarik doesn’t “have more soon,” he’s failing hard.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
updated:
Nylander has NOT been traded. The veteran center, who has not suited up since being used sparingly in the playoffs, simply has agreed to Griffins to get some game action without taking any ice time away from the Capitals’ prospects in Hershey.
How Nylander performs could determine what happens next. There has been a little interest from some KHL teams, but those clubs have also expressed concern about Nylander’s conditioning and ability to come in and contribute since it’s been so long since his last game. This is Nylander’s chance to prove he can still play, and perhaps, facilitate a trade.
The 37-year-old, by the way, did not have to clear waivers in order to be sent to Grand Rapids. He also still counts toward towards the Capitals’ 23-man roster and his salary still counts against Washington’s salary cap.
In other news, Patrick Thoresen’s balls have taken less impact than Michael Nylander’s just did.
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Yeah, I wonder if this is something he knew about or if George was just like “Pack up, douchebag! You’re headed to Michigan!”
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
He had to waive his NMC, so he knew. And I can’t imagine GMGM treating him with anything less than professional courtesy.
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Of course he wouldn’t call him a douchebag.
Didn’t you post earlier that he would NOT have to waive his NMC for conditioning?
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
I don’t think so – he definitely does. In fact, any player has to agree to a conditioning assignment, whether they have an NMC or not.
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It’s not a “movement.” Movement would be a permanent assignment. So only the conditioning clause applies (Nylander, like every other player, has to approve it) — the NMC doesn’t apply. It will apply if and when the Caps put him on waivers before loaning him out to a European team, and Nylander will have to approve that.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 21, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
FanShot is up – continue discussion there
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While Puck Daddy’s commenters take up space, I’m fond of Wysh bringing the snark. About players out due to illness (including Semin):
With H1N1, the NHL may need to make coughing on an opponent a roughing minor.
It already is, when the cough-ee is “87”
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by ThePeerless on Oct 21, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
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