Thursday Caps Clips: Jets @ Caps Game Day
by EmilyB on Feb 9, 2012 7:08 AM EST
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- Previews of tonight's joust with the Jets from Vogs, NHL.com, SB Nation DC, Peerless, VC Chillin, and CRtC, and be sure to check out our SB Nation partner Arctic Ice Hockey for more coverage from the other side of tonight's match-up.
- Notes and assorted whatnot from yesterday out at Kettler:
- Alex Ovechkin, Dennis Wideman, and Brooks Laich's left knee were granted a maintenance day. The right knee tried to suit up, but was sent back to the trainer's room. [WaPo, WashTimes, 106.7 The Fan]
- The knee held up "actually really well." Laich chatted up the Sports Junkies... [106.7 The Fan (audio), WashTimes (partial transcript)]
- ... and D-Wides checked in with WNST up in Baltimore. [WNST.net (audio)]
- Folks took note as Joel Ward had his strongest game in weeks on Tuesday ... [DCEx, WashTimes, CSNW]
- ... and as part of Hockey Day in Canada festivities, he talked about his Prince Edward Island roots. [CBC.ca]
- Busted beak and all, Dmitry Orlov is looking more veteran every day. [WashTimes]
- Mike Knuble is taking the long view on Nick Backstrom's return from concussion. [CSNW]
- Jeff Schultz is workin' his way back to you, babe. [Dump 'n' Chase]
- All those home wins? Give yourselves a hand, Verizon Center faithful. [KOL]
- Détente! Canadiens-Ovechkin relations have been normalized after AO met with and was absolved by the kid he "snowed" in April 2010. [Montreal Gazette, Alex Ovetjkin (and again, with Russian TV video of the charity event)]
- Fun with charts. Ovechkin, pre- and post-Dale Hunter. [Arctic Ice Hockey]
- Can't find ice time for your kid in metro DC? That's the Ovi Effect. [WaPo]
- Stanislav Galiev got some welcome good news from the the Caps' medical staff yesterday. [CSNW, Station Nation]
- Puck drop is 11:30am today for Evgeny Kuznetsov and Team Russia in frigid Helsinki. [RMNB]
- Finally, happy 52nd birthday to Neil Sheehy.
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“… and from that night on, Brooks Laich was to be known as ‘The Cleveland Steamer.’”
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by J.P. on Feb 9, 2012 7:24 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I have a feeling the google results here are going to be either awesome or terrifying
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Just Google up “Santorum”
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 8:26 AM EST up reply actions
I thought of him more as Slim Pickens from Dr. Strangelove.
J.P.: You might be the king of all geeks here…
by Alz Well That Ends Well on Feb 9, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
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I always thought this guy was The Cleveland Steamer
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
By the way, State of Ohio outlines on the numbers? Money.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The three stars are for the District Flag, correct?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
correct. but also to represent DC, MD, and VA.
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Also the Washington family crest.
You perhaps knew me better as "Your Nation's Capital." Same great commentary, now with 100% more transparency!
And the number of stars on the Caps, down from four, with some downgrades from “super.”
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Now that would be a cool retro jersey to own.
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Good luck finding one. I don’t see them on any of the jerseys sites, although I did find one place that does Skipjacks jerseys.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
I couldn’t find one either.
This site seemed promising, but no dice.
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And with the monacle and top hat, that could be a Japers’ Rink Readers logo…
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I almost thought the logo was modeled after Brian Burke, but the logo is smiling
If you've read this far...seek help.
I love how much it looks like Mr. Peanut. I’d get one of those in a heartbeat.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
It’s galling to confess ignorance twice in one morning – probably as much for you all as for me – but my curiosity overwhelms me. Who is that?
I googled Cleveland Barons #21 and got this list:
Robert Lang
Tom Fitzgerald
Radek Dvorak
Bryan Smolinski
Alexei Semenov
Chris Higgins
I’m pretty sure the only guy that could be is Fitzgerald?
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There were three different versions of the Barons. An AHL franchise from 37-73, an NHL version from 76-78, and an AHL version from 01-06 that started as the Kentucky Throughblades, moved to Cleveland, and now are in Worcester as the Worcester Sharks.
Also, this could be the worst logo ever.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
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I take back that last comment, and submit the Kentucky Thoroughblades.
Because when I think hockey, I think of spruce, plum, and white.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
I believe Matt Bradley is a former Kentucky Thoroughblade.
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As is this gentleman
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
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And shockingly, this guy
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
The one Kentucky Thoroughblade I can always remember is Ken Belanger. He was the biggest hack ever when he played for them. (Bonus Ken Belanger vs Dale Hunter fight vid)
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Refs preparing for playoffs too.
Although I am rooting for BB and the Ducks…Tim Peel, yeah, nice one buddy.
Eh, it’s a missed call. Happens all the time. This one happened to wind up in the back of the net to end a game, so obviously more scrutiny. Whatevs.
I’m just happy to have gotten a three-point game from two teams looking up at Colorado.
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I think Perry looking back at the ref is pretty funny, but he did observe the most important rule – play to the whistle.
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If it were me, I would feel guilty and be tormented by it, but he is a pro and will bounce back
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by JediChewbacca on Feb 9, 2012 7:45 AM EST up reply actions
(And, speaking of Colorado, the latest from Dater on Varly.)
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In today’s NHL, betting on a goaltender appears riskier than ever.
Which is why it’s probably not a good idea to throw 7 year contracts at them /coughPekkaRinne/cough or 12 year deals /coughLuongo/cough or, God help us, 15 year deals /glassbreakingRickDiPietro/glassbreaking
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 7:52 AM EST up reply actions
But 9 year contracts are just right.
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I really don’t understand the Avs strategy. It’s obvious that their expectations were way too high for a young goalie that had previously not played more than 30 games in a season. Goalie Guild has written about how he feels with the Avs it’s better for them to have a veteran goalie like Jiggy, due to the lack of a full time goalie coach (he said Jiggy doesn’t need one) and their defense and other issues with the organization, a young guy would get too frustrated and not know how to manage it well without the help of a full time coach. Goalie Guild wrote an excellent article on the importance of a full time goalie coach for a young goalie, the young goalie needs daily coaching whereas a vet like Jiggy doesn’t.
When the Avs played the Panthers in January, Theo told Dater that if the Avs didn’t sign Jiggy, they were going to offer him, so he was really close to returning to the Avs. During that same visit, Varly told the Flordia beat reporter that Theo had been his best friend on the Caps, so obviously that would be a combo of goalies that would work together. It seems like to me the Avs would have been better off getting Theo or another veteran guy along with Jiggy.
Since the Avs decided they wanted a young guy to grow with their young team, and considering that they paid a big price to get the particular young guy they wanted due to the competition for him, it’s baffling that they don’t get him a full time coach to provide the daily coaching that he needs. The Avs appear to be an extremely cheap organization though, which is odd considering how rich Kroenke is and how many sports teams he owns and is trying to buy another one now.
Most of the stuff I read about Kroenke (which is, granted, through an Arsenal lens and not an Avs one, though I imagine the following would remain true) is that he is Nuggets first, everything else second, in his heart.
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Have read the same about Kroenke (not through the soccer lens). One thing to note, I have read he’s looked at NFL ownership (IIRC) and the impact that would have on the other teams he owns. I have wondered if that is in part why he keeps the payroll on the lower end because it’s not unusual when trying to sell or thinking of selling a team. OT: There are also the stories about Laurie (STL)/Kroenke(COL) brother-in-law rivalry stuff. Not sure how that has changed with Laurie’s selling the STL Blues.
It’s surprising Sacco has lasted as long as he has as coach.
He already owns the St. Louis Rams, for what it’s worth.
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Which is odd if he’s a big Nuggets fan. The NFL rules state an owner can’t own other sports teams in the same city as an NFL team (even if they don’t own the NFL team as in the case of the Broncos). So right now the Kroenkes have pacified the NFL by putting his son Josh in charge of the Rapids, Avs, Nuggets. But the NFL is making them sell their interest in the next couple years.
I believe it’s fine according to NFL rules for Kroenke to own teams in non-NFL cities. He is apparently looked at buying the Dodgers.
very interesting that Theo was considering a return to the Avs. Back in 2009, there were some hurt feelings, iirc.
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As I have said before, I think Goalie Guild over-does it on the goalie coach and the Avs, in the context that it’s not all that different than some other teams. I’ll point again to the Caps, they don’t have a goalie coach on hand all the time; note, Neuvirth’s comments about Prior’s absence and that it would have been helpful to have him around.
Would have made little sense with that roster to have two vet goalies, IMO, makes sense it was either/or in terms of Giguere and Theodore.
As to Dater, as noted, he goes up/down, hot/cold, on the topic of goalies and everything else.
Ske84, what Goalie Guild was trying to get across in his article that I linked is the importance of daily coaching for a young goalie, and all the things that needed to be addressed on a daily level to help the goalie improve. According to Goalie Guild, the Avs are the worst in the amount of time the goalies have with the goalie coach (or goalie consultant as they call McLean). As you noted, Neuvy did say it wasn’t good for him to not have a coach around all the time. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe Irbe was with Neuvy and Varly almost all of the time, right? He did make some trips up to Hershey, but it seems he was more focused on working with the young goalies while Prior did scouting stuff. So they were both used to that daily interaction with the coach.
I think if the Avs don’t want to spend the time bringing up a young goalie, why shouldn’t they get two vets that don’t need all the coaching? Maybe Jiggy/Theo are not the right combo, but there are other vets that could be paired with either one of them. Obviously they should probably be grooming a young goalie for the future, but they are pretty horrible at developing goalies. Look at all the goalies that leave the Avs organization and perform better on other teams.
And my point, while I think it would be great if all the NHL teams had goalie coaches with the team all the time, it’s not the norm at this time.
I think there’s been too much talk about it specifically with Colorado because GG is based on Colorado and sees/knows more about the day to day activities there.
I think it’s true that Irbe attended practices more regularly in the time he was here, but I don’t know that for a fact. Maybe one of the beat writers could comment on whether that was true?
Colorado plays a lot of younger players (plus Hejduk); I see no reason why they would have gone into this season with two, older established goalies.
Makes more sense to me to have a veteran goalie like Giguere to share time with a younger goalie. I don’t see this as not spending time to bring along a younger goalie and fwiw, Varlamov himself took the path of saying he was more than just a young goalie with his approach to his contract negotiations.
For other goalie coach info., I recall plenty of issues with the Canucks and Luongo and goalie coaches. From some stuff while with the Panthers and wanting Allaire (IIRC) to Canucks GM swapping out Luongo’s goalie coach for Melanson at one point. I think one of the issues given was availability in that case even though it sounded like the goalie wanted the coach who wasn’t available as much.
But G.G. did acknowledge that the Avs are the worst in terms of the amount of time the goalie coach is present. So I think it is valid for him to note that, and also valid to point out how he thinks a young goalie such as Varly needs a daily coach. His article wasn’t only about just Varly. He also talked about the impact on the prospects such as Sami A. their Finnish goalie prospect and just young goalies in general.
If Colorado is going to roll with older vet/young goalie combo, which is fine, I don’t think they can have the expectation that the young unproven player should be the starter and playing 60+ games. So while Dater is right that Varly didn’t meet the expectations, I think it was unrealistic of them to expect it from him given his history and how few games he had played. Perhaps they should have gone for a young goalie with a little more experience and maybe one that would need less coaching. Goalie Guild did say he thought the Avs should have traded for Neuvy instead and that Varly wasn’t re-signed due to his injury history. Not sure what he was smoking to ignore all the other issues involved with the whole Varly situation.
Sorry, I didn’t understand what you meant it the last paragraph, I got confused with how you wrote it.
The last pgh wasn’t well-written. I’m suggesting you look up Luongo and goalie coaches and the history with Florida and Vancouver.
As to Colorado management’s expectations going into the season, different topic of discussion.
As to GG, I’d like to know / see the details as to the information regarding frequency of goalie coaches attending practices for the 30 teams in the League. Not just assumptions and general statements. I know he’s posted some general counts as to the number of teams with ‘full-time’ coaches (Colorado isn’t alone in not being on that list) and posted about teams like the Caps who have multiple individuals involved with the goalies in the system, but I think there are a lot of assumptions being made. While Colorado does have a rep. with Kroenke and the org. and money in recent years, Colorado as an organization related to the goalies isn’t as unusual as I think you are stating it is.
Again, I think GG sees more of the day to day and has more invested in the situation with Colorado based on location, etc.
I can tell you a few things about Goalie Guild. He went to Varly’s introductory press conference, and training camp multiple days to scout the goalie prospects and Varly and Giggy. In the beginning of the season he was at some games. Since then, I don’t think he goes to Avs games much at all or even always watches them. At least not from what he posts on twitter and all the scouting reports he does (I have a membership). That said, he might be doing more that we are aware of, but I don’t think he is quite as invested in the situation as you might expect from him living there. I don’t believe he goes to practices either, although most Avs practices are closed from my understanding, or maybe that is just when they practice at Pepsi Center. It’s not clear to me whether or not he had a press pass, I think he does. The Avs are much more restrictive with bloggers and giving out press passes, I think MHH didn’t have any until more recently it seems like they are being given some access.
Jiggy has a recent interview by Dater where he was talking about the importance of a goalie coach and how he didn’t understand why more teams didn’t have a full time coach. This caused some confusion on MHH because Goalie Guild had implied the Avs were unusual compared to other teams. It wasn’t entirely clear to me if the inconsistency was from Jiggy or how Dater wrote the article (Dater is sloppy at times). One of the MHH editors asked Goalie Guild about the inconsistency and he said there were some things in that article that weren’t quite right and he would write up a post on it. But as far as I know he never did.
I agree with you, I would love to see Goalie Guild present some solid stats on the breakdown of full time coaches across the NHL and how much time is spent working with the goalies daily.
Please look at the goalie prospect development for Colorado. There are many players leaving that team and performing much better on other teams. They don’t have a good history at developing goalie prospects.
I am familiar with most of what you wrote in this post; I follow the League and the minors and prospects.
My point is GG makes it sound like Colorado is way off of the norm in terms of the goalie coach situation.
Again, as one example, take a look at the Luongo goalie coach stories.
I know you follow the league and prospects but I didn’t expect you to have read every single Dater article and MHH posts on these topics and MHH interaction with GG, so I was trying to provide additional context.
Regardless of what the norm is, obviously some goalies (young ones) need more coaching than others (old ones like Jiggy). So I don’t understand why a team wouldn’t try to maximize their large investment and provide what was needed. Whether or not you agree with Goalie Guild about how a young goalie needs more frequent coaching is another issue, but I am inclined to agree with him on that topic. I know there was a debate on here last week on that subject and many seemed to think goalies don’t need daily coaching, but I thought Goalie Guild presented very logical reasons why a young goalie would need that interaction.
Goalie coach probably couldn’t hurt, but would doubtfully fix all of what ails Varlamov.
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I don’t know what all his issues are, but some seem to be confidence related and focusing and not getting frustrated. I would think a good coach would assist in that area. Obviously it’s on him that he is not always performing well, but considering the investment the team made, shouldn’t they try to provide all the tools necessary to help him perform better if possible?
Just seems to be a big deal consistently made out of a small issue, in my opinion.
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I think the level of importance you attach to the issue is related to how much you think a goalie coach could do for the young goalie. Obviously not everyone agrees with how important the coaching is and what kind of impact it can have.
Goalies are notoriously odd creatures and hard to predict, but comparing Varly over the past two years versus his play this season, he is more inconsistent and gets more frustrated than I saw out of him the previous season. It think it is reasonable to attribute at least part of that to the impact of no longer having daily coaching that he was used to having.
I just put together a fan post on Jussi Parkkila so I was rereading a bunch of old articles on Varly and I read on where he said it was very hard when he was sent to Hershey his first season here because he didn’t get to work with a goalie coach and it was like training himself. The season before that is when he worked with Jussi Parkkila.
Yup, I read just about every thing Chambers and Dater write. Don’t subscribe to GG but read the stuff available without a subscription, etc.
I don’t think having a goalie coach hurts, well if the goalie and goalie coach work well together. I am saying I think GG has possibly misled some people as it relates to his writing about the Colorado situation and the norm around the League with regard to goalie coaching. Some teams have more coaching, not disagreeing, but some times aren’t any different from Colorado and most teams have goalie “prospects” playing somewhere, if not up with the main club.
I’m not saying I agree with Colorado management’s decisions the last few years, but that extends way beyond the goalie situation and this trade and contract.
Do you read all articles written by all beat writers for every team? I don’t know how you find the time. I can barely keep up reading about Caps and Avs and watching all the games and then watching football, at least that is over.
It would be nice if G.G. would write that piece he told MHH that he would write about the whole inconsistency between what he apparently says and what Jiggy said and Dater said about full time vs part time coaching. Maybe I should email and inquire about it, he says he is available to members.
I thought the Avalanced fleeced the Caps in that deal? Must’ve missed something.
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They did. They gave them a nice fleece blanket of draft picks.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 8:05 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, that’s where they got the fleece for the blanket giveaway. Nice.
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To bad he didn’t play against the Caps this season. Seems backups do about as well against Washington as do number ones.
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Re: Article Discussion: So far, Semyon Varlamov far from the No.
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Hi from Québec, (I’am an Avs fan by the way)My comment this morning; " We will see in the next 2 weeks where the Avs administration stands….Are they resiliant WINNERS or perpetual LOOSERS..??
Within those 2 weeks , some teams will BUY players to make the playoffs…and some teams will SELL, (or LET GO..) players because they gave up…
Where will the Avs stand…
Will they be WINNERS or LOOSERS..!!!
P.S. Rumors that go around the league that Jones… O’Brien… might be traded is definitely bad for the team sprit VS Rumors that the Avs administration would like to get an impact player to make the playoffs MOTIVATES the teamHave a good day.
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“Loosers” is like nails on a chalkboard to me.
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YES. And the RANDOM capitalization is another THING that annoys THE hell out of me.
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Loving this. I commented to Dater directly on Twitter a few months back about how woeful of a decision that deal was for the Avs, he was none to pleased and mocked our current position in the standings (which hasn’t changed much since) as rebuttal. Of course the Caps “team” performance (aka placement in the standings) has little to do with the fact that this personnel deal was GMGM at his best.
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Man I wish Colorado would start Varlamov more often.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 9, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I don’t think you posted this other recent Dater article on Varly and his attitude being on the bench.
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BAD DATES.
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Would love to see coaches develop their own language for complaining about the refs w/out incurring fines. Use “rocked” instead of “sucked” and “fantastic” instead of “awful”. So after that game Muller could have said:
“Yeah, that call was fantastic. I think the refs really rocked tonight. It rocks to lose a game on a fantastic call like that.”
With the appropriate emphasis so everyone knows what he’s really saying.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
We discussed last night on the OT thread the possibility of utilizing the new verb “Corvo” as an option.
“Tim Peel really Corvo-ed that call on Perry last night.”
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Not only does it effect the kids, but us grown ups too! 10:15pm and sometimes later games in our adult league are brutal.
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10:15 is pretty standard at laurel unfortunately
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Yeah it’s been this way for as long as I can remember
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happy 52nd birthday to Neil Sheehy.
Sandpapery guy from Harvard: unfortunately, part of one of the more infamous moments, along with yesterday’s birthday boy, of the Caps checkered history. A lot will probably never be known about what really happened, but here’s a link to what I think is a pretty even-handed account. Another what-if about the Caps. Really wish they had found some way to hang on to Scott Stevens.
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/32559/another-lose-lose-situation
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unfortunately, part of one of the more infamous moments, along with yesterday’s birthday boy, of the Caps checkered history
This?
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Eh. What else can ya do?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 7:53 AM EST up reply actions
I bow to you sir, for that beaut.
by Acer Jonesy's Laughker on Feb 9, 2012 7:57 AM EST up reply actions
Sheehy today, Dino yesterday and Bonzai Monday, it’s like 1990 all over again (though I think Neil didn’t get a chance to play with both of them before going to Calgary).
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It’s going to be a long, insufferable ~11 months…
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by J.P. on Feb 9, 2012 8:18 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
If it’s not Tim Cheveldae facing Allan Bester, I’m going to be greatly disappointed.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 8:20 AM EST up reply actions
Curiously, Bester finished his career with the Orlando Solar Bears of the IHL in the mid-late 90s, where his GM was……Don Waddell.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 8:22 AM EST up reply actions
!!!
In the 1999 Turner Cup Conference Finals, the Solar Bears completed the only successful comeback from a 0–3 deficit in the 56-year history of the International Hockey League. It came at the expense of the Detroit Vipers. In a thrilling Game 7, rookie Jason Blake scored twice in regulation and winger Todd Krygier got the game-winner 25 seconds into the second overtime, giving Orlando a 5–4 victory. Unfortunately for the Solar Bears, they lost in the finals, 4 games to 3, to the Houston Aeros.
Clutch.
They also employed Alfie Turcotte!
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 8:24 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe Olie Kolzig gets in for the Leafs?
Ex-Cap line-up:
Toronto –
G – Palmateer, Beaupre
D – Klee, Rouse, Housley, Quenneville, Zettler, Cote, Calle Jo
F – Kypreos, Gartner, Franceshetti, Laughlin, Zezel (RIP), Steckel, Allison, Oates, Berezin
Coach = Wilson
Detroit -
G – Low, Ranford, Crozier,
D – Lynch, Joly, McEwen, Murphy, Veitch, Norwood, Watson, Wooley, Rouse
F – Bailey, Ciccarelli, Lang, McKechnie, Kevin Miller, Rowe, Stewart, Federov
Coach = Murray
Bob Rouse switches uniforms half-way through.
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by STLSpidey on Feb 9, 2012 8:39 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Nice work… but I want to see Boudreau and Hanlon playing as well.
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It broke my heart to see Calle playing for the Leafs. That sucked.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 8:42 AM EST up reply actions
I think I would pay cash money to see Boudreau out there.
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Oates played for the Leafs?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 8:47 AM EST up reply actions
He has him on the wrong side.
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Forgot him. Of course, he can.
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Indeed. But with everyone already saying DC gets it in 2014, depending on the opponent, it could get worse.
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Pittsburgh threepeat?
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by CapitalCentre on Feb 9, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Who in the East do you think would be showcased on such a big stage?
Teams you’d eliminate almost immediately: Tampa Bay, Florida, Carolina, New Jersey, the Islanders, Buffalo and Ottawa.
That leaves: Pittsburgh, Rangers, Philadelphia, Montreal, Boston, the team that comes over to replace Winnipeg, and Toronto.
If you get rid of Toronto (just played last year), Rangers and Philly (just played two years ago), that leaves Pittsburgh, Montreal, Boston, and the new Winnipeg.
So….
I wouldn’t be so quick to throw out Buffalo. They were in the first WC, and their fans travel really, really well, and they have a pretty decent rivalry with DC.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
The problems with Buffalo are threefold. One, they’re just not that good of a team. Two, they don’t have a star. And three, they are in one of the smallest NHL markets. The NHL really doesn’t need the opposing team to travel well, because they’ll sell-out no matter what.
They’re not that good of a team NOW, but who knows about 2014? The Caps may stink then too.
I don’t think they need a star, because as Crosby carried the first WC, the numerous stars (in market speak) on the Caps can carry that.
Buffalo’s cosistently at the top of the ratings. All the time. It’s a small hockey market, yes, but it’s got a ton of hockey fans. Same rationale the NHL used for allowing the Thrashers to move to Winnipeg.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
But Buffalo consistently does monster ratings.
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I think the best non-DC/non-Pittsburgh market for the ’11 WC was either Buffalo or Baltimore.
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and all the Buffalo fans now living in other cities would also drive up ratings.
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Boston. Hmm. They were the home team before, so there’s a decent argument. I’d absolutely object to Pittsburgh as it would be their 3rd time in. Tampa and NJ may be meh as teams, but they each have superstars on their rosters who might attract eyeballs.
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I was going for the Stamkos angle, but by that season Tampa may not be in the same division. They’ll never get a home game, but there’s no reason they can’t play in one as the visiting team.
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I would go for New Jersey, actually.
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Wouldn’t the Blackhawks make the most sense? Big market, some big names, hosted last time?
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I don’t see any reason to rule out the California teams, either. LA not a big enough market?
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I’m going to feel like I’m back in college when every Saturday we were given the joy of watching the Toronto game on HNIC. Ian Turnbull! Borje Salming! Pat Boutette!…Bruce Boudreau!
wait…what?
If you've read this far...seek help.
Salming’s in, but he has to switch teams at least once.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 8:29 AM EST up reply actions
Boudreau, Wilson for TOR.
Hanlon, Schoenfeld for DET.
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Terry Murray played 23 games for the Wings in 76-77.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 8:38 AM EST up reply actions
I wonder if they’ll drag Gordie out there for a minute or two? I’m sure someone will try, but his health is just not very good right now. I’m hoping he doesn’t.
I’m sure the biggest cheers will come if they put 87-year old Johnny Bower out there for 5 minutes like they did for Parent.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 8:45 AM EST up reply actions
I bet he’ll come to at least wave. His kids, thankfully, seem to have a firm understanding of their father’s limitations and don’t allow him to be pimped out.
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A belated thought about schultz-
In section 433, I heard a fellow caps fan say “Holy crap, did Schultz just hit that guy?” This got me to thinking… whats his record for hits in a game?
and is this a turning point?
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As hits are subjectively scored I’d wonder if it’s worthwhile to rely on it, but to the latter, I’d presume that it’s more of a gentle rebound than a turning point.
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by fat_daddyo on Feb 9, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Whatever his record is for hits in a game, you can basically throw it out the window. There aren’t many stats tracked by the NHL that are less valuable (meaning reliable or trustworthy) than hits.
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There aren’t many stats tracked by the NHL that are less valuable (meaning reliable or trustworthy or indicative one way or another about what it takes to win hockey games) than hits.
Amended that for you.
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by J.P. on Feb 9, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I thought for sure your response would have included “the way they track giveaways and takeaways is so idiotic it can only wish to attain the level of babytown frolics.”
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by Rob Parker on Feb 9, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Curious, what are people’s thoughts on why Schultz is getting PT: (1) Erskine is nursing an undisclosed injury; (2) showcasing; or (3) the coaching staff thinks he gives them the best chance to win. I believe it’s (3) but given his treatment over the first couple of months of Dale/JJ’s tenure, I have a bit of a hard time believing that suddenly the coaches decide Shultz deserves a few starts in a row.
I’d go with (3) as well. Unless someone comes in a with a great offer – I don’t see Schultz moving. Depth at D for a playoff run is too valuable. (Yes I still believe). With Green back, the Cap have 8 NHL D, plus 2 guys who have seen some NHL time this year and didn’t embarrass themselves. That’s huge.
DH and JJ said they were working with Schultz to fix what they thought was broken. It may not be complete – but it’s probably at the level where in-game experience is the only thing that can add anything.
by Gin and Tonic on Feb 9, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
I read a sobering piece about Pronger last night. He was able to come to the Flyers’ practice facility recently for about 90 minutes, and is just a shadow of his former self.
He was not well enough to go to the team’s Super Bowl party. I guess it’s better that Nick was feeling good enough to host one.
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Terrible. Just awful. I hate seeing his career end like that, cause the guy was such a great player, and probably is a first-ballot HOFer.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
And, Jesus…it’s not just a career issue either, it’s a life issue as well. I can’t even imagine what he and his family are going through if he can’t even feel well enough to go to a party.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
“At least we aren’t in Edmonton.”
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by Rob Parker on Feb 9, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Probably? Aside from Alexander Daigle I’m not sure who wouldn’t have him in as a lock.
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Writers from Edmonton? ;)
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
He has a cup, an Olympic Gold, a World Championship gold, a WJC gold, and he was the last defenseman to win a Hart trophy. He also has a Norris and is regarded as one of the most dominant two-way defensemen of this era. He’s first-ballot HOF.
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Hey, in a world where Cris Carter still isn’t in the Pro Football HOF, I don’t take any of those things for granted.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
I’d have to think there are less politics when it comes to getting into Toronto than Canton.
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Unfortunate he came up in an era when necks were rationed, and he didn’t have a winning ticket.
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by Rob Parker on Feb 9, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
And meanwhile all the party leaders were walking around with giraffe necks.
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by Killer_Carlson on Feb 9, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Trotz was born in the wrong era. He belongs in a T-34 chasing Panzers across the steppe.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
In a world where Damien Cox has a HOF vote, I’d think there are more.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, and then just look at NFL journalists. I’m sure there are plenty of Cox in that group.
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SI’s Paul Zimmerman when he was well used to write some good columns about all the politics that were involved in NFL HOF voting.
Adding onto it (and stealing from LaCanfora), any HoF that welcomes Chris Doleman while keeping out Charles Haley is silly.
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Or Kevin Greene, who only trails Reggie White and Bruce Smith on the all-time sack list.
Haley’s a victim of politics, pure and simple. He’s got um…“issues” of the mental variety that he controlled with medication. On his meds, he was fine. Off them, he was wiping his ass and throwing the used toilet paper at George Seifert, pulling his weiner out at team meetings, and masturbating in front of reporters.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
That book Boys will be Boys about the Cowboys of the 90’s and all the craziness that went on was sure an eye opener. It’s amazing that Michael Irvin has a TV job today after his past of stabbing teammates in the neck, and the drugs and all the women.
The Joe Fishback stories alone should have their own book.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Don’t forget slicing open a teammate’s ragtop and pissing in the car.
by Twenty Seven Ninety on Feb 9, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t know enough about the politics of either, frankly. I do know there is some sort of secret gate-keeping council that needs to give approval for a guy to get into the HOF. Seems like that could be a political process.
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Definitely behind closed doors and no explanation required for HHOF decisions and from what I can recall, they have declined in the past to comment on decisions. Selection committee, terms expire but can be re-appointed. The list of current members is on the HHOF site.
As to someone’s comment about D Cox. Don’t know if he was in the past, but Cox isn’t on it from what I know.
Kevin Allen talked about it on XM a couple seasons ago, it was really interesting but I don’t remember most of the specifics.
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I’ve read a few interesting articles on the topic, around the time of announcing the next class.
Here’s the current committee info. link
So long as Pronger isn’t Russian, yes.
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I guess Larionov, Kharlamov, Fetisov and Tretiak got in with fake IDs.
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 9, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
From 94-00 he averaged 99/1197/11. That’s pretty good.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
First ballot hall of pretty gooder right there.
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by Rob Parker on Feb 9, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Maybe. In ’94 he led the NFL in receptions and he led the league in TDs three times. He was the clutch receiver for many years.
So because he wasn’t as good as Jerry Rice, he shouldn’t be in the HOF? That would disqualify every other receiver that’s ever played.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Sure, and he led the league in yards that year. Jerry Rice was the best receiver of his generation. Carter was (a distant) number two, but they were different players.
Rice tended to play in the middle of the field more, while Carter was the best at the sideline catch.
I think there are more people that could try to lay claim to number 2.
My overarching point is that Cris Carter <> Chris Pronger.
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Carter and Rice’s careers overlapped very well (Carter 87-02, Rice 85-04). Of that era, I can think of only one guy that would be close to those two — Tim Brown — and I don’t even think it’s close. Who else? Michael Irvin’s career just wasn’t long enough. Bruce? Moss? Harrison?
Maybe I’m just an NFC guy, but I always thought of Brown as being super talented but just below the ultra-elite.
I mean, he’s no Lionel Manuel.
And no Willie Gault
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
yeah the whole Pronger situation is scary. I can’t find the article for the life of me now but I swear I read something that said that even though this is his first diagnosed concussion the thought is that he’s probably had a significantly higher number over his career that were never diagnosed. Then he takes the stick to the eye this year, comes back and takes two more heavy shots and he’s at this spot now.
He was a great player although maybe just a bit dirty and I don’t like him but I would never wish this sort of thing on anyone. It actually makes me feel bad for him to have to be going through this.
And perhaps this goes back to the exchange I had with Natty the other day regarding B. Schenn and whether you fully recover from blows to the head. He was presumably symptom-free when PHI put him back in the lineup, right?
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it’s terrifying when you think of how quickly they let people return to full activity following concussions less than 15 years ago. The amount of brain damage some of us have probably suffered is incredible.
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by RedBirdie on Feb 9, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He was presumably symptom-free when PHI put him back in the lineup, right?
Pronger? Not at all. Dude had flu-like symptoms for weeks (nausea, etc) and they had him try to play through it. Then after two or three weeks, management went “Oh, shit, turns out he actually has a concussion. We realized this when they found him in the locker room walking into walls and not realizing it.”
If I’m reading the timeline right, he came back from his eye injury after missing six games on or around November 9th, played until November 21, when he was scratched with a “virus”, was announced as out for a month with knee surgery on November 28, diagnosed with concussion-like symptoms around December 9, and officially shut down for the season on December 15.
There’s at least a week and a half’s worth of games in there he had no business playing in. Kinda starting to piss me off how little care team doctors seem to take when dealing with head injuries.
When dude was playing he should have been called Dirt McGirt, because he was an Ol’ Dirty Bastard. But like you says, I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
Speaking of concussions, I know a lot of people say “well, doctors are just better at diagnosing them” but it would not take mode science I diagnose these debilitating life altering concussions that Pronger, Savard and others have.
I fully believe that while doctors may be better at diagnosing “mild concussions” the equipment players wear is a much bigger factor than many realize.
Today’s shoulder pads and elbow pads are rock solid. They’re weapons/armor more so than protection. I recently bought new elbow pads for he first time in 10 years (waited until the elastic on my old ones were literally falling off) and I was shocked at how rigid the elbow protection was.
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Equipment is a factor, as is the elimination of clutching and grabbing. You can’t hold up guys at the blue line any longer, so forecheckers come flying into the zone at a zillion miles an hour and players just get blasted. I’m just not sure there’s any kind of medium between “opening the game up” and “player safety”. Do you want a “boring” game where no one gets hurt, or do you want an “exciting” game where debilitating injuries have a strong possibility of happening?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
I’d like to see some tracking of how the concussions were caused, but the way teams are about reporting it’s a pipe dream.
What % were on dirty hits (by Rene Bourque)?
What % were in the neutral zone?
What % were D getting smashed on the forecheck?
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What % were incurred in fights?
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Like Brashear’s “knee” injury caused by Belak’s fist to brash’s face a couple years ago?
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How about caused/related to rinks w/ seamless glass.
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Doesn’t it seem like it’s mostly forwards getting concussions? Maybe since there’s twice as many forwards as defensemen, but perhaps they are better at bracing for hits along the boards.
That would be an interesting one to check… I think there’s an injury list up somewhere – TSN has one, maybe? I can’t look at work, but I might look tonight when I get home… also, there might be something said for forwards being more often in the position of hitt-ee and defensemen in the position of hitt-er…
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Apparently a few NHLers are testing out some prototype pads that the NHL is hoping will replace the hard plastic pads (albeit foam covered hard plastic) being used now. Apparently they are made out of some kind of spongy foam that is protective for the player, without the injury potential of plastic reinforced pads.
If they’re reviewed well by the players, the NHL would try to convince the NHLPA to allow a rule banning plastic reinforced shoulder pads.
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You’d think, but my understanding is this has been an ongoing issue the League has tried to address for several years. At least 2 or more years ago I heard an interview on NHL Home Ice with someone from the NHL League office where they talked about having some prototypes for new elbow and shoulder pads, mostly discussing the elbow pad covers and that the NHLPA was being unresponsive or not agreeing or something where they couldn’t move forward on the issue (bias obviously included.)
Last year they mandated that players wear a 1" piece of foam over any hard cap shoulder pads. Not sure if that is still a requirement. Not even close to being enough. No reason Ovi and others should be allowed to skate around in linebacker shoulder pads.
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The #NHL #Capitals could add ~$5.9m-$6.4m depending on demotions, assuming Green and Poti on LTI for rest of season. http://t.co/rPmZRSTD
Green sounds like he’s two to four weeks from returning, based on the fact that he’s skating and that the original timeline was four to six weeks a couple of weeks ago. Nick Backstrom’s LTIR space, however, would give the Caps a lot of flexibility when it comes to the salary cap, if he’s on LTIR until the playoffs. Enough, at least, to add some center depth.
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by J.P. on Feb 9, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Moreover, I think there are a lot of guys out there who could help the Caps at that position this year. Brad Boyes, for example, was a center in St. Louis and Boston until some of their young guys pushed him to the wing; he’s got a relatively good Corsi Rel on the Sabres (though he does it against weak competition) and his numbers are low because his team has a 4.82% shooting percentage when he’s on the ice at 5 on 5. (He’s also not getting any PP time). There’s a guy who could help, though he’s available for pennies on the dollar.
If you want someone who’s a little better at D and can pull spot-duty at 3C or so, you could always pick up a Jochen Hecht, who regularly faces difficult competition on the Sabres and, uh, doesn’t get destroyed doing so.
Oh, and neither of those guys would cost a real asset. Probably a third at most.
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Not sure I agree entirely with this phrase – “lot of flexibility when it comes to the salary cap” – if you are planning on Green returning before the playoffs, you have to leave the flexibility to remove him from LTIR. If you plan to leave Green off the active roster until the playoffs start, then yes, plenty of cap room, as others have asked, what’s this team without Green and Backstrom for the rest of the regular season?
Other alternative, which seems plausible at this time, is Green off LTIR and Backstrom on to LTIR.
Green cap hit: 5.25M
Backstrom cap hit: 6.7M
On a season basis, yes, by definition Backstrom to LTIR and leaving room for Green to return adds 1.45M in cap space based on full season contract cap hit difference.
Last I ran the numbers (I need to run an update), the Caps were using all of Poti’s LTIR cap space and some of Green’s LTIR cap space. The comment by CG about depending on demotions is a factor in their numbers.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but 6.7 million of acquisition space is about how much space the Caps had around the deadline last year, isn’t it? They had to ship out some contracts (Steckel) and put some guys on LTIR (Poti, Green) in order to make the numbers work, but they also ended up adding about 13 million in salary, too. The point was more that the Caps do have some acquisition space with which to work, and it’s enough to make one or two big moves if they feel it so necessary.
I was counting on Green coming back either before the deadline or soon after, honestly, so I don’t think you can use his LTIR space for acquisition.
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Yes, I am saying based on what we know, i think it’s difficult to count on Green’s cap space. One can assume something is going out if something is coming in, but that’s not always the case.
The numbers were tight last year, but I don’t have the exact number. They were using LTIR cap space for Poti and Green at the trade deadline through the end of the season from what I recall.
Yes, Green sat until the playoffs last year, most likely for cap reasons. This most likely did not help his overall conditioning and game-readines, and IIRC he had most of the symptoms of groinal problems by the Tampa series.
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Yes, I was the one noting that people shouldn’t expect him back because by my math there wasn’t room to take him off LTIR. I shouldn’t have said from what I recall at the end there, sorry, just used to covering m.a. on this stuff.
My comment about numbers related to the question, I don’t recall the exact number they had available going into the deadline, including the LTIR cap space they were using.
They could at least $6M more assuming an enigmatic winger gets dealt at the same time, yes?
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Feb 9, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Really “sad” tidbit on the long-term effects of Ovi’e snowjob on the kids in Montreal a couple of years ago …
He has got to be p-i-s-s-e-d pissed.
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seriously. And I don’t blame him.
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Do you blame Hunter? Knuble’s been terrible. If they can get anything for him in trade, they should pull the trigger.
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Exactly, it’s not as if he wasn’t given an opportunity. He has been bad.
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by _Skullduggery_ on Feb 9, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
there’s been a lot of terrible on this team this season.
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Ain’t no disputing that point.
But Knuble’s numbers – traditional, advanced and otherwise – are a special brand of terrible this year.
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Mike Knuble offers a polite “no thanks” when approached by reporters. #Caps
Watch the game from upstairs, come back and be dynamic next game.
Of course, it helps if he’s playing in the right situation.
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Even if he had been playing average or better, no suprise the guy gets a day off presuming other healthy options are available. Got a relatively light schedule this week so he can miss one game and get 4 days off. Guessing he’s in for the back-to-backs this weekend and next.
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by dcsportsfan1 on Feb 9, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
3/8/11 -14. 0 PPGs, 2 PPAs. Yeeeeuck.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
I am far from shocked.
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I think he could be a decent consolation prize for the teams that miss out on Travis Moen. Despite the down year, I think he still has the perception of that gritty, veteran, good locker room guy on an expiring contract that contending teams look for at the deadline. Sure, the Caps are making a playoff push of their own, but if they can move Knuble and use that cleared cap space to make another move to replace him, then go for it.
I’ve long ago said, if he isn’t playing on the top two lines, there’s pretty much no use for him to be on the team. Does nothing but take up a roster spot as a 3rd or 4th liner.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Knuble has really got no one to blame but himself. He looks worn out and slow. He’s not helping the team out there.
Ok, buying the argument that Knuble needs to sit for a game, I don’t understand the decision to sit him tonight with all the back to back games this month being a more logical time to sit him for a game, including this weekend back to back Sunday (day game)/Monday including travel?
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Wow, that’s comedy gold right there. I think Dale has a career in standup comedy after this season.
with a blanket tucked around his knees as he sits in his rocker drinking camomile tea?
…yeesh
If you've read this far...seek help.
Ready for “Driving Mr. Knuble” photoshop.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
BUT I GOTTA CRASH THE NET!
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
More Winter Classic, Comerica Park news, etc. being released today with the official announcements. Confirmation that NHL plans to do 24/7 this, (following up on Becca’s question yesterday), including this tweet:
BrianBurkeGM Brian Burke
It’s official. We’re playing in the Winter Classic. That means you’ll get to see HBO 24/7 with exciting guys like Kessel and Phaneuf. #Leafs
Allan Walsh as Debbie Downer
It’s great that the NHL announces plans for next season’s Winter Classic but let’s not forget one important point. We need a new CBA first!
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As a rant for a second, I’d really hope that there is more exposure to the Lig’s machinations in the weeks and months ahead before HBO comes in for a couple months at the end of the year.
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 9, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Does this mean an American team gets to play in the Heritage Classic?
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Feb 9, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
are you trying to instigate a major border war?
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Feb 9, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
If Winnipeg hosts it, it would make sense to have them play Minnesota but I’m sure CBC doesn’t agree,
by Rather Bengt on Feb 9, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
play it in International Falls with center ice straddling the border!
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that'd be awesome
but costly as hell
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by canadian texan on Feb 9, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
You mean Toronto’s not an American city?
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by Whiter Mage on Feb 9, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If Bettman would troll Canada like that, that would be the greatest.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
You can’t troll Canadians! They just apologize!
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Except for Scott. He’s a dick.
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by D'ohboy on Feb 9, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
and this from GMillerTSN Gord Miller
With all the talk about who might be featured on HBO’s 24/7 series on the NHL’s Winter Classic, there is no deal to do the show next year.
which isn’t a surprise, but sure looks to me like the teams had to agree to participate, as one would expect, and that the NHL and teams hope 24/7 happens.
crap, you are right. I missed that it wasn’t the real account. I should have realized it with the Kessel comment. I follow the real Burke, this must have been an RT by someone else and I didn’t realize it.
I did see other 24/7 chatter, including from some reputable people but again nothing official and my apologies for choosing a bad tweet to post.
Sorry.
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by D'ohboy on Feb 9, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
New Lunchbox up on the front page with everyone’s favorite (Alan May) and least favorite (me).
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Updated post from the other day:
Trade deadline Feb 27th at 3pm eastern time. Caps still have 9 games before the deadline, including tonight’s game; 6 on road, 3 at home; 3 more sets of back to backs:
THU 2/9, vs WPG
SUN 2/12 at NYR
MON 2/13 vs SJS (b/b)
FRI 2/17 at FLA
SAT 2/18 at TBL (b/b)
MON 2/20 at CAR
WED 2/22 at OTT
FRI 2/24 vs MTL
SAT 2/25 at TOR (b/b)
trade deadline
TUE 2/28 vs NYI (first of 20 games post-trade deadline; 9 on road, 11 at home)
Awesome, I’ll be out in Vegas for FLA, TBL, and CAR. Should be fun to watch those games with a little more urgency than usual. (You know, cause I’ll have money on ’em). How should I bet? :)
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Here’s PD’s list of the top 7 available D men at the deadline.
See the Caps picking up any of these guys for depth? I would have bitten on Kubina a couple years ago (and boy did I ride that wagon hard), but not so sure now. I think it’s pretty much inevitable Gill ends up back in Pittsburgh.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 2:31 PM EST reply actions
Toronto might also be a good fit for Gill too. He can’t skate at all, but he’s a great PKer, and to say that PK needs help is a pretty massive understatement (the only team with a worse % is Columbus).
LOL…their PK is 71% on the road. 71%.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
CASH!!
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Reports from Philly have former Hershey Bears G Jason Bacashihua being recalled (on emergency basis) to #Flyers w Ilya Bryzgalov sick.
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not Leighton? Very interesting
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Not sure what Leighton’s waiver status is. Maybe they don’t want to lose him?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Carter was on a three-way.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I think Leighton requires re-entry waivers; if so, not a same-day option, plus if ST illness
Also, not sure about the cap room even with the LTIR, just haven’t looked; assume there would be room?
But it’s on emergency basis, he wouldn’t need recall waivers for that, right?
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Nope, emergency basis does not allow a team to avoid re-entry waivers.
See Columbus claiming Hainsey on re-entry waivers to get called up to Montreal from, Hamilton as Exhibit A. (I know that is definitely an example; surprised some people at the time, but stuck in memory as a result of all the discussions.)
Emergency recall would mean the waiver clock counter does not start counting the 10 GP / 30 days on the NHL roster for requiring waivers to be sent back down; has no impact on need for re-entry, still need re-entry waivers if otherwise required.
Back to whether he requires re-entry, my question isn’t regarding his one way contract, which I knew was the case and leads one to think re-entry waivers required. I’m 98% sure he does not meet the minor league vet exemption due to the number of days he has spent on an NHL roster in the last 2 seasons so that combined with the one-way would mean he does require re-entry.
Flyers can take on a little over 4 million in salary.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
Scratch the “little over” 4 million. It’s like 4.9.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
I didn’t know the ’Nucks were in such terrible cap trouble. They can only take on like 869k at the Deadline.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
Cap trouble is less pressing when you’re at or near the top of the league.
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True, but it limits what you can add for depth down the stretch and into ye olde playoffs.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 9, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
Following Johnson’s comments in the paper today, I assume (and hope) Sarge is back in the top 6. That being the case, is it confirmed he is playing tonight and, if so, who is he paired with?
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concussions
I’m on my iPhone so I can’t search the original comment, but here’s the quick-and-dirty one-source research:
Centers: (7)
Marc Savard
Jochen Hecht
Joey Hishon
Jesse Winchester
Ian Laperriere
Sidney Crosby
Nicklas Backstrom
Defensemen (8)
Kim Johnsson
Radek Martinek
Alex Plante
Mike Mottau
Michael Sauer
Chris Pronger
Kurt Sauer
Taylor Ellington
Left Wings (6)
Simon Gagne
Pierre-Marc Bouchard
Guillaume Latendresse
Kurt Kabanov
Tony Lucia
Alexander Steen
Right Wings (6)
Nathan Horton
Patrick Eaves
Arron Asham
Nick Petersen
Tony Lucia
James Marcou
So yes – more forwards than defensemen. Pretty even split with a slight weight to centers.
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by IRockTheRed on Feb 9, 2012 5:02 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Shea Webber and Jay Beagle both missed time with concussions
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Quick glance, but this is the list of players currently out due to concussion, not players who missed time this season due to concussion, correct?
My bad. I don’t really bother to read the posts in full, so that I have plausible deniability to be incorrect or even a jerk.
:-)
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Wasn’t Pavelec concussed too? Or was that last season when he fell out on the ice before the home opener?
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CBA Amnesty
Proteau wrote this piece on the possibility of an Amnesty clause in the next CBA, that would allow each team to buy-out one guy with no cap penalty.
If that came to pass, who might the Caps target? Buying Poti out, while completely sensible, only really benefits the team by allowing them to bank some cap space by getting Poti off LTIR. If they truly don’t think Jeff Schultz is a good fit, I guess he could be the guy, but I have a hard time believing Schultz couldn’t be moved for either a player or pick from another club.
Ovi’s $10M a year through 2059 is looking rather expensive in light of his recent production, but he’s obviously not going anywhere. Ward’s $3M looks way too expensive at the moment, but then, we didn’t sign him to make sure we could hang another SE Division Champs banner… so the jury is still out on him.
So, unless I’m missing something, this would end up being an expensive way to resolve the Poti situation…
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Well, if players are allowed to re-sign with the team that buys them out under the amnesty clause, you just buy Ovechkin out and re-sign him to whatever contract ends up having him paid the same money, except his new cap hit is in the 4-5 range instead. Easy.
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I’ve thought about that. I assume there will be something in the CBA to prevent that.
Please, call me F&B.
Agree.
There was a one time buyout option built into the start of the current CBA. It was a 5 or 6 day window where teams could buy out a player without any impact on the cap; theory at the time being the contracts were signed when there was no cap system. That special buyout window included a provision that players were not allowed to re-sign with or re-join the same team (even via waivers) for that season.
Then what? Resign him at a cheaper rate, or let him walk?
I’m okay with that in theory I guess, but somehow I feel like it would result in bad blood between Ovie and the organization, not to mention being incredibly rough on Ted’s wallet.
Bet the Isles buy out DiPietro.
I have my doubts that Ovechkin (or most players, for that matter) would re-sign with the team that just bought them out. And as Rob already pointed out, there will probably be something in the CBA to prevent that sort of thing from happening.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 9, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
Let him go. This team is built around a ~$10m winger who plays desultory defense and isn’t anywhere near an elite goal-scorer anymore. If this were just one year, I’d stick with him, but Ovie’s now on his second year of meh. $10m is an awful lot to spend for meh. Ask the Lightning.
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