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Second Period Open Thread

A couple of defensive mistakes wind up in the back of the Caps' net while the twine behind Tim Thomas remains undented. Second period ahead...

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Hey guyz. It’s been a while.
Ovi’s getting one today. I sense it.

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by Jake Shapiro on Feb 5, 2012 1:19 PM EST reply actions  

Hey Jake. Good to see you mate.

by Rather Bengt on Feb 5, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck Boston. Let’s go Caps!

"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."

by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 1:20 PM EST reply actions  

Well put.

Dingos are involved. Best not to ask.

by alex_k on Feb 5, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

if the Caps lose, that means god has granted my request for a meteor to strike the super bowl tonight while Madonna is performing

RAMPAGE

by JediChewbacca on Feb 5, 2012 1:24 PM EST reply actions  

As long as there’s no wardrobe malfunction on Madonna. Arod might enjoy it, no one else will.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I love that the Chara vignette shows him boarding Claude Giroux. I hate that gigantic a-hole.

"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."

by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 1:26 PM EST reply actions  

Looked like 28 on the Flyers. That’s GIroux, right?

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Over 9 minutes inthe game and PHI gets their first shot. Meteor on their game first please.

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by caps&skins on Feb 5, 2012 1:28 PM EST reply actions  

Did anyone else catch that awkward exchange where Pierre McGuire cut off Milbury and they stared at each other for a full five seconds before it cut to commercial break?

Still dying.

by Release The Mackan! on Feb 5, 2012 1:29 PM EST reply actions  

“So, hey, letting go of Chara.. smooth move, Mikey.”

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by winterion on Feb 5, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

You could hear them arguing faintly over the cutaway sequence to commercial break. It kind of took the edge off that period a little bit.

by Release The Mackan! on Feb 5, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Why can’t the NHL on NBC team be Jim Hughson, Darryl Reaugh, and Jeremy Roenick?

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s a whole lot of punchable in one photo.

Dingos are involved. Best not to ask.

by alex_k on Feb 5, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

8-90-28 & 21-26-20 looking pretty good. Other two lines so-so. Don’t quite understand why Matty, however, doesn’t get more ice time. The fact that Ward and Matty are getting equal minutes indicates to me that ….well…what in the hell does it indicate??

by Wilderthing on Feb 5, 2012 1:29 PM EST reply actions  

That Ward was a bad signing?

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Matty & Ward’s line had one really good shift that I recall. Ward didn’t see the puck, but he had a wide-open net in front of him.

by Aliceanna on Feb 5, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Ward actually moved in slow motion.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey at least Pit is losing too. Where’s the Boston team they dominated yesterday?

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 1:29 PM EST reply actions  

I’d rather PHI be losing.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I would always rather PIT be losing.

by Martyvburen on Feb 5, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

You and most Caps fans I know. Which is fine. I hate Philly more than Pittsburgh, but as long as it’s not a 3 point game, I think I’ll be almost equally angry about the winner.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I also hate Philly more than Pittsburgh, but not by very much.

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by CapitalCentre on Feb 5, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Playing the Caps.

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by caps&skins on Feb 5, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Well both Ward & Ovi missed golden chances. Does that mean Ward’s getting better or Ovi’s pressing? And thanks refs for the failure to call anything while Chara’s slashing Semin; I guess his stick (or body part) had to snap.

by ShootTheBullets on Feb 5, 2012 1:33 PM EST reply actions  

Caps got away with a couple crosschecks in the defensive zone. It goes both ways.

by Release The Mackan! on Feb 5, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

They only call every third one, if they happen in a row,

by ShootTheBullets on Feb 5, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

The Devils are having a magic weekend. The Kovy fight was an amazing moment.

by Ahberg on Feb 5, 2012 1:33 PM EST reply actions  

Of the three Caps goal scorers from last game, Cody has been shipped down to Hershey, Matty P has been shipped down to the fourth line, and All-Star D-Wides is babysitting coach Hunter’s Least Trusted Defenseman™ on the third D pair.

Huh.

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by EmilyB on Feb 5, 2012 1:33 PM EST reply actions  

Except Wides was at fault on goal no 1.

by ShootTheBullets on Feb 5, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I am feeling like the Caps are going to come hard in the second. I hope they’re as pissed off as they should be, and that it gives them focus and fire.

by Aliceanna on Feb 5, 2012 1:33 PM EST reply actions  

They’re making the effort anyway.

by ShootTheBullets on Feb 5, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Aw, Matty looks so sad serving Hendy’s time.

by Aliceanna on Feb 5, 2012 1:34 PM EST reply actions  

Over on TLC, one of the brides on “Say Yes to the Dress” is Riley Cote’s finacee. Wonder if there’ll be footage from his wedding at the end of the episode.

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by CapitalCentre on Feb 5, 2012 1:34 PM EST reply actions  

Heh. Marchand got hit in the face. Can only make him prettier.

by Martyvburen on Feb 5, 2012 1:36 PM EST reply actions  

I wish we had Backstrom too, but Chara would just get away with an elbow to the jaw on him.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 1:36 PM EST reply actions  

Tom Poti has missed his 52nd game this season. Oh well. What are you gonna do?

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by STLSpidey on Feb 5, 2012 1:37 PM EST reply actions  

Drink?

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by alex_k on Feb 5, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

good shift here

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 1:38 PM EST reply actions  

That was your fourth line, boys and girls.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 5, 2012 1:38 PM EST reply actions  

Need to bury something on that shift.

by Martyvburen on Feb 5, 2012 1:38 PM EST reply actions  

HEY. Perreault owns the B’s Dale, PROMOTE HIM

by David C. Rothman on Feb 5, 2012 1:38 PM EST reply actions  

I can’t watch. Caps getting traffic in front of TT?

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by caps&skins on Feb 5, 2012 1:39 PM EST reply actions  

not really.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

When was the last time the Caps took a shot that had a chance of getting tipped by traffic in front of the net?

by Martyvburen on Feb 5, 2012 1:40 PM EST reply actions  

When Knuble was on the first line?

by Rather Bengt on Feb 5, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

TB20 was doing some of that this year.

by icehammer97 on Feb 5, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

The NBC guys are talking about everything but this game.

by Ahberg on Feb 5, 2012 1:41 PM EST reply actions  

This is why I still have it on the Swedish feed. That and Calle.

by Martyvburen on Feb 5, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s something that annoys me, and Mike O’Meara and his show touched up on it (Though talking about the NFL). What happens is they prepare so much copy, and they try to sneak it all in, and it isn’t always applicable. There’s WAY too much. Just come on the game, not the damn copy.

And if that’s intentional offside, lick it. He lost control of the puck.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it just me or does Knuble really seem to be showing his age now?

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 1:41 PM EST reply actions  

Is Ovi, Brouwer, Laich a thing again? Or was that just a late change by Ovi?

by Aliceanna on Feb 5, 2012 1:41 PM EST reply actions  

I think it was a trying to get Ovie away from Chara thing

by icehammer97 on Feb 5, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Was hoping the Caps might come out a little more aggressive to loose pucks and in the corners…oh well.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 1:42 PM EST reply actions  

Was hoping to see more dump and chase rather than dump and change.

by geauxcaps on Feb 5, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

CapitalsDSP
Pouliot elbowed Perreault in back of head, no call. 85 finished shift, but was holding back of head on his way off. #Caps

Could we get something called on the Bs? Anything? It ain’t like they’re squeaky clean out there.

by Aliceanna on Feb 5, 2012 1:43 PM EST reply actions  

I kept waiting for them to penalize Ovie for “launching” himself into Boychuk.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 1:44 PM EST reply actions  

How is that not called for intentional offsides?

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by Jake Shapiro on Feb 5, 2012 1:45 PM EST reply actions  

Ill take it. Maybe they feel sorry for us.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Refs don’t want to call anything,

by icehammer97 on Feb 5, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

You can’t get mad at Ovie for playing the puck when the Bruins just absolutely refused, right?

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Does he ever not look constipated?

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by Jake Shapiro on Feb 5, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice little slashing take down by Chara. He leads the league in getting away with penalties.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

And yet Semin gets the hooking call.

Dingos are involved. Best not to ask.

by alex_k on Feb 5, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow that was bad D.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

That was kind of funny to see Ovi not go anywhere against Chara. Though, to Ovi’s credit, Chara didn’t knock him on his ass.

by Aliceanna on Feb 5, 2012 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

Wait what??

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

What the hell did we get called for

by icehammer97 on Feb 5, 2012 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

And of course what Chara did was all good according to the ref.

by icehammer97 on Feb 5, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Where was that penalty?

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 1:47 PM EST reply actions  

compensation for not calling intentional offside

Cup, please.

by fnralch on Feb 5, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

When was the penalty?

by Aliceanna on Feb 5, 2012 1:47 PM EST reply actions  

Semin for hooking. Penalty on NBC for piss poor broadcasting.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 5, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Being the Caps.
Hooking really though..I think

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by caps&skins on Feb 5, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, of course it’s Semin with a stick penalty.

by Martyvburen on Feb 5, 2012 1:47 PM EST reply actions  

Hooking on Sasha…somewhere

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 1:47 PM EST reply actions  

I didn’t see it, but it’s Semin, so I’m sure it happened.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Huh?! Invisible stick penalty!

by David C. Rothman on Feb 5, 2012 1:48 PM EST reply actions  

I only have radio. Walton had no idea there was a penalty until they lined up.

by ShootTheBullets on Feb 5, 2012 1:48 PM EST reply actions  

neither did NBC it was a phantom call.

by icehammer97 on Feb 5, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Do we have a shot yet this period?

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 1:48 PM EST reply actions  

Is Carlson in a slump, or is he just a mediocre defenseman and we’ve failed to see it until recently?

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by Jake Shapiro on Feb 5, 2012 1:48 PM EST reply actions  

Or he works well in one system and not in another?

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Its the spectre of Hadeed.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

He was a lot more comfortable under Gabby.

by Martyvburen on Feb 5, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Take a drink every time the phrase “stick on the ice” is used.

by Acer Jonesy's Laughker on Feb 5, 2012 1:49 PM EST reply actions  

Krecji’s been thrown out of the faceoff dot multiple times, and most of the time they still win the draw. Just let Krecji take it.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 1:49 PM EST reply actions  

85 back with 8 and 28.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 5, 2012 1:50 PM EST reply actions  

What the Hell, Perreault?

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 1:50 PM EST reply actions  

It seems that whole “keep Ovi away from Chara” plan hasn’t been working at all this period.

by Aliceanna on Feb 5, 2012 1:50 PM EST reply actions  

It’s Hunter’s fault, if he’s trying to do that. Home team last change etc. etc.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Just let Boston skate easily from one end to the other.

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by caps&skins on Feb 5, 2012 1:51 PM EST reply actions  

You’re talking like that’s something different?

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

wouldva been a goal had ovechkin not been interfered with

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by kingzman264 on Feb 5, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Ward ’s making Hal Gill look like a speed skater.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 1:52 PM EST reply actions  

Again with Gustaffson. Again. C’mon Doc.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 5, 2012 1:52 PM EST reply actions  

Coiner just got too excited, but credit to NBC, beauty of a look on that outlet pass.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 1:52 PM EST reply actions  

Damn. I don’t know if Aucoin normally makes that shot, but I really wish he had.

by Aliceanna on Feb 5, 2012 1:53 PM EST reply actions  

Hey everyone!

Trying to make sense of this Swedish feed, but haven’t been too impressed with MP just now.

Um, are we that as bad as the boxscore, or is Thomas just on today?

by Vinn on Feb 5, 2012 1:53 PM EST reply actions  

Hi Vinn!

Thomas is very on, and we’ve had some stupid mistakes.

by Aliceanna on Feb 5, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

A little bit of both. And Calle Johansson is doing color on the Swedish feed, so it’s still better than NBC.

by Martyvburen on Feb 5, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s super exciting, but since I speak zero Swedish, it’s not better than anything.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

hahaha i don’t know if I should be grateful that I’m not watching NBC, or if I should be sad I don’t understand Swedish.

Sigh. Why aren’t we a better team :( I wish we hired Kirk Muller instead.

by Vinn on Feb 5, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Thomas doesn’t need to be on. The Bruins are just outplaying us, and it’s not even close.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey Vinn — Caps are not quite as bad as their side of the boxscore, but they’re facing a team that is way dirtier than their boxscore.

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by alex_k on Feb 5, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess we will get a penalty with a min and a half left in the third or something

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 1:53 PM EST reply actions  

It’s interesting how the butt-rock anthems featured in EA’s NHL games end up playing in hockey arenas everywhere 2 years later.

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by Jake Shapiro on Feb 5, 2012 1:53 PM EST reply actions  

NBC guys just went over 30 seconds without saying Chara. A game record. Maybe they should just have one of their alternate stations have the Chara Show playing in tandem with the game – like an OT thread!

by Ahberg on Feb 5, 2012 1:54 PM EST reply actions  

In the first period, we had 2 lines skating hard and having chances. Then, start of 2nd period, Dale mixes those successful lines and we’re flat.

by Wilderthing on Feb 5, 2012 1:55 PM EST reply actions  

Oh no, Laich.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 1:56 PM EST reply actions  

Don’t be hurt, Brooksie!

by Aliceanna on Feb 5, 2012 1:56 PM EST reply actions  

OH SHIT. BROOKS?!

by Vinn on Feb 5, 2012 1:56 PM EST reply actions  

That is not good.

I'll have the milksteak, over hard

by renstar on Feb 5, 2012 1:56 PM EST reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 1:56 PM EST reply actions  

Shit.

Dingos are involved. Best not to ask.

by alex_k on Feb 5, 2012 1:56 PM EST reply actions  

“It’s nothing dirty.”

HE HIT HIM IN THE BACK BETWEEN THE NUMBERS. FUCK YOU, MILBURY.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 1:56 PM EST reply actions  

yep. pretty fucking ridiculous

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by kingzman264 on Feb 5, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Knee was lined up right on Laich’s knee also.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

fuck these guys :(

by Vinn on Feb 5, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Stop guys. It wasn’t a dirty hit. Laich turned his body as he went to the wall. It wasn’t even that hard. The reason Seidenberg’s knee was on Laich’s knee is that they are the same height.

Nothing overtly wrong with that contact. Tough luck.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 5, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree as I said below.

by icehammer97 on Feb 5, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

No, that was in the back in the numbers. Seidenberg isn’t coming in hard, but Laich’s trying to turn away. Seidenberg can just ride him into the boards, but he doesn’t. It’s checking from behind, don’t mask it.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Laich is turning and Seidenberg doesn’t go full on against him. If he really wanted to he could have planted him but he didn’t. It sucks that he is hurt but that was not a bad hit and if it was then Ovechkin should be suspended about every game because he makes about one or two of those hits each game.

by icehammer97 on Feb 5, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

He hit him from behind. I don’t care about the force involved.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

If you weren’t allowed to even touch guys from behind then guys would skate around the wall with their back to the play and would not be allowed to be touched. You can have contact to the back as long as you hold up especially if the player is turning as Brooks did.

by icehammer97 on Feb 5, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, you can ride them into the boards. He didn’t. I’m usually really quick to defend a hit if I think it’s clean, regardless of team, and you guys should know that. That looked dirty to me. He made contact into the back, and followed through rather than riding.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I just watched it again. They are both going for the puck. As they near the boards, Laich slows down, and looks behind him. Laich turns. Seidenberg hits Laich on his side. Never on the back. Seidenberg’s skates do not come off the ice. Good hit. Bad contact.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 5, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

His arm is between Laich’s numbers, and he follows through there. It’s in the back.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Rewind it dude. It is not a hit from behind. No way. Laich’s right shoulder and elbow go into the boards. I’ve watched it ten times now.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 5, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Contact was made between the numbers on the back of Laich’s uniform. I wasn’t talking about where he hit the board, I’m talking about where Seidenberg hit Laich. I don’t have your fancy schmancy rewind technology, so please post it when it hits youtube. I’ve looked at it in the three-four looks they gave us, and I saw the same thing every time.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough. When you get a chance to see the replay again, you’ll see that Seidenberg doesn’t hit Laich in the back. He doesn’t contact him square from behind between the numbers.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 5, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Can’t wait. From the views I saw, it looked pretty clear, but I’d like to be wrong.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, just a knee where it shouldn’t be.

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by caps&skins on Feb 5, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

He was turning his body as he went to the wall, that wasn’t that bad of a hit either he could have come much harder

by icehammer97 on Feb 5, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

from what I could tell he jammed his knee behind Laich’s forcing Laich’s knee into the boards

by drchew69 on Feb 5, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

And then immediately saying Ovechkin elbowed Kelly in the face. No, it looked like Kelly got his stick up and he knocked Kelly’s stick into his mouth. Fuck that.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Well we can write this season off if its bad.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

NOT DIRTY? NOT DIRTY?

He better get something. Please let him get something for that.

by Vinn on Feb 5, 2012 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

Nice knee there asswipes
I like how the Bruins were smiling at the replay. Fuck these douches.

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by caps&skins on Feb 5, 2012 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

Let me know when I can exhale on Brooks.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 5, 2012 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

When the death lasers I am mentally aiming at the Bruins’ bench breaks through to the physical world.

Dingos are involved. Best not to ask.

by alex_k on Feb 5, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

no boarding? nothing?

by j762 on Feb 5, 2012 1:58 PM EST reply actions  

Time for Hendricks to exact revenge if we don’t get this game turned around.

by ShootTheBullets on Feb 5, 2012 1:58 PM EST reply actions  

he’s already had a fight.

by j762 on Feb 5, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Whatever you do, don’t sotp Boston players from ice skating around the zone. UGH>

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by caps&skins on Feb 5, 2012 1:58 PM EST reply actions  

That the caps are playing flatter than ever now says volumes about this team. They just hurt the scout, bust some heads!

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 1:58 PM EST reply actions  

Everyone at VC on Twitter reporting Laich being helped down tunnel by two trainers, no weight whatsoever on his knee.

by Aliceanna on Feb 5, 2012 1:59 PM EST reply actions  

I’m hoping that’s just a precaution thing.

by Vinn on Feb 5, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

It really doesn’t sound that way from all the tweets, but I share your hope.

by Aliceanna on Feb 5, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I doubt it. They had a shot of him going down the tunnel. He looks in bad shape.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

stop killing my hope :( looks can be deceiving right?

by Vinn on Feb 5, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh, they cut to it and it looked…not good.

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by Bald Pollack on Feb 5, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck it. Run TT.

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by caps&skins on Feb 5, 2012 1:59 PM EST reply actions  

Screw that, call the White House, and have congress vote to raise JUST TT’s taxes.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Classy.

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by Hang a Laingtern on Your Problems on Feb 5, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Do it in very soft and classy manner.

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by caps&skins on Feb 5, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

How did the Caps have numbers entering the Bos zone, the Bos player just gets it right back because Caps are going so slowly.
No shot. nothing.

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by caps&skins on Feb 5, 2012 2:01 PM EST reply actions  

Tarik:

#Caps Laich testing out knee/leg on ice during TV timeout.

by Martyvburen on Feb 5, 2012 2:01 PM EST reply actions  

see! I’m watching Laich skate on the Swedish feed, so so.. it can’t be THAT bad.

Right? RIGHT? Right. /still hoping.

by Vinn on Feb 5, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Sweden is a few hours ahead of us..it must be true!

by Rather Bengt on Feb 5, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Hell, we won with Matty last time. I want to see the can-do Caps.

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by caps&skins on Feb 5, 2012 2:01 PM EST reply actions  

Hope it is just a bit of a stinger and he only misses the rest of this game.

by icehammer97 on Feb 5, 2012 2:02 PM EST reply actions  

no guts no glory

Im sorry, I am a rabbid fan of 30 years,but I believe the attitude of “who cares” country club no pride and everyone relying on Ovie ONLY for offence, NO ONE IN FRONT OF the GOALIE is making this a hard to support team. That comment from Alzner after the Florida game saying “its hard to get up for a game in Florida” when 1st place is on the line tells volumes about the mindset of this team.This TEAM sucks! Top to bottom and that hurts to say. We need to blow it up , I mean the whole thing. WTF IM FRUSRRATED
This is what happens when you think you can take a playoff off and you think Aw we can get it next year. Yeah right . They wont ever get that chance again! START OVER

by Steve Waterman on Feb 5, 2012 2:02 PM EST reply actions  

So you can get a nice core of 3-4 players and then yell more when 2-3 of them get hurt/suspended again?

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

you obviously dont know what blowing up a team is

We got the team of 3 years ago blowing up the team. Start with a new core and change the team attitude. It will be contageous and give us a chance at a cup. I dont see this team in ANY final.DO YOU ?

by Steve Waterman on Feb 5, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t even know where to start on this post.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I Know its hard

Where do you go with this team? How long have you watched hockey?How consistantly do we have a winger posted in the slot? Why do we not take shots until the d is allowed to set it up for it ? How often do you find yourself screaming SHOOT THE PUCK way before its done? Why doesnt this team understand when you shoot the puck from the left point you need to seek rebounds to the RIGHT of the net. Why do we shoot the hard around and theres no one right side blue line. These are simple things but we dont consistantly do the things to put us in a position to get a scoring shot with a chance to get twine.

by Steve Waterman on Feb 5, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

To the third period thread, for one.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for coming.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 5, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Merry sports day!

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by Bald Pollack on Feb 5, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha. Corvo

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by BetterOffWith28 on Feb 5, 2012 2:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Jose Cuervo.

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by Jake Shapiro on Feb 5, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Lots of standing around

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by caps&skins on Feb 5, 2012 2:03 PM EST reply actions  

When Laich goes down, no matter what the circumstance, these shitbums need to sack up, not look like their moms just died.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone else notice that Brouwer can’t clear pucks?

by Wilderthing on Feb 5, 2012 2:03 PM EST reply actions  

“Marchand gently pressed to the glass by Brouwer.” Marchand should never be gently pressed anywhere. He should be flung with great force. /Dorothy Parker paraphrase.

by Aliceanna on Feb 5, 2012 2:04 PM EST reply actions  

Stopping sucking Chara. Goodness ,it gets tiresome.

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by caps&skins on Feb 5, 2012 2:05 PM EST reply actions  

Good OZ time, but no shots.

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by caps&skins on Feb 5, 2012 2:06 PM EST reply actions  

Did you see that little pass attempt from Semin to Ovie? Great example of why this team is going nowhere. That was a lame ass zero percentage failure.

by Ahberg on Feb 5, 2012 2:06 PM EST reply actions  

lol, i take it you havent played hockey before

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by kingzman264 on Feb 5, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

So this game is going to end like the Caps’ previous Super Bowl Sunday matinĂ©e with a team in black and yellow, rite?

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by Jake Shapiro on Feb 5, 2012 2:06 PM EST reply actions  

If Laich is gone GMGM has to decide whether it’s worth going all in or prepare for 12-13.
If Nicky doesn’t get back these are exhibition games.

by ShootTheBullets on Feb 5, 2012 2:07 PM EST reply actions  

If laich is out I its time to look forward to ‘12-’13

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

it’s miind-boggling to think that

by j762 on Feb 5, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

If Backstrom takes a while to get healthy they need to make some trades for someone like Dominic Moore, Ruutu, etc. The list of available centers on the team right now scares me

by mc43342 on Feb 5, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, dad. I’m not picking up my phone in the middle of a Caps game. You know that.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 5, 2012 2:07 PM EST reply actions  

I await the voicemail that goes “Did you see Laich get hit between the numbers, son? Your mother and I don’t have that fancy rewind technology you have but I am sure that bastard hit Laich between the numbers!”

by Rather Bengt on Feb 5, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope. Dad’s got the technology. He also knows the game is on.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 5, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Cause that’s fair. I said I’d look at it again on youtube.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

RB’s just having a little fun. I respect the fact that you don’t have a DVR. No worries.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 5, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you notice the odd grunt on the up high overhead replay of the hit?

by icehammer97 on Feb 5, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not mad at you guys, in fact, I really do hope I’m wrong. I don’t like seeing dirty plays. Taking a step back, the look I saw that really cemented it was zoomed in, and it looked like Laich was turning to his left from the get go, and Seidenberg made the decision to hit him while his back was facing him. Laich tried to turn to push the puck to the left, and looked like while he was at about 60 degrees to the wall, Seidenberg’s left arm makes contact with the space between the 2 and the nameplate on Laich’s back (admittedly, didn’t get a good look at the right side of him), and then he followed through with the shoulder into his back. Because of the angle Laich had to the boards, I can see why his right side hit the boards first.

And now that I see it again from the low boards view, it looks like it was leg on leg, and his arm was just on his back after the fact and Laich keeled over immediately. Not a dirty hit.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Have a bad quality picture for you in the 3rd period thread.

by icehammer97 on Feb 5, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I know you would WM. And I know you would admit you were wrong if it happened. I just thought it would be funny if Spidey’s Dad called him in the middle of the game and said the exact same thing.

by Rather Bengt on Feb 5, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be lols.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Vokes took a Chara shot to the face? Damn. That man isn’t making enough money.

by Aliceanna on Feb 5, 2012 2:08 PM EST reply actions  

I’d be in a coma if I took a drink every time Walton said “in the Washington zone”.

by ShootTheBullets on Feb 5, 2012 2:09 PM EST reply actions  

Is there any other zone? :)

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by caps&skins on Feb 5, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

About time !!

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by BetterOffWith28 on Feb 5, 2012 2:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

FINALLY A FUCKING BOSTON PENALTY!

by Aliceanna on Feb 5, 2012 2:09 PM EST reply actions  

Holy Crap! A bruin penalty!

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 2:09 PM EST reply actions  

Technically.

In reality, we’ll see.

by wickedwitch on Feb 5, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Two minutes of retrieving the puck in our own zone coming up!

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 2:10 PM EST reply actions  

T-Bro the penalty-drawing stud.

by Aliceanna on Feb 5, 2012 2:10 PM EST reply actions  

Wow, you would remain astoundingly sober if you had a drink for every “Bruins on the penalty kill.”

by geauxcaps on Feb 5, 2012 2:10 PM EST reply actions  

Fck

What doesnt kill you makes you stronger.

by BetterOffWith28 on Feb 5, 2012 2:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Have to get something going.

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by caps&skins on Feb 5, 2012 2:10 PM EST reply actions  

It’s too bad Brouwer’s the only one that can draw a penalty

The safe word will be "hwiskey"

by kschaeff on Feb 5, 2012 2:10 PM EST reply actions  

Man, I hate these intermission-split PP. May as well just have a 1:40 power play.

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by Jake Shapiro on Feb 5, 2012 2:10 PM EST reply actions  

Ha TP Tim

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by BetterOffWith28 on Feb 5, 2012 2:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

It’s unconstitutional to stand in his crease, you know. Private property.

by ShootTheBullets on Feb 5, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Thomas isn’t going to let those in too often when you stare him down for 4 seconds first.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 2:11 PM EST reply actions  

Is having a PP really a good thing?

I noticed this in the last game, and I’ve already noticed it in this one. I’m ok with playing an umbrella with Ovechkin on one of the high walls/rotating points. But if he refuses to skate into the zone and just calls for passes → one-timers back there, he needs to get put down low. A huge issue I have with this power play is that only four of the fixtures on it move, at best, and it’s the Captain who doesn’t unless he has the puck.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 2:12 PM EST reply actions  

Ovi should float into space as needed.

by ShootTheBullets on Feb 5, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

But he doesn’t. And he’s not a good player with how he’s used on our power play. Floating into space is fine, but he doesn’t float in space, he stands in the corner and doesn’t move unless he can get a one timer off into the pack of defensemen standing in front of the goalie.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. See Messi, Lionel. Gretsky, Wayne.

by ShootTheBullets on Feb 5, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Gretzky and Ovechkin aren’t really PP comparable. Gretzky’s place was with the puck, driving in a triangle behind the net attack. Ovechkin could probably do that, but will never be the playmaker 99 was.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Having a PP is a good thing. Having our PP is not.

by CVDTerp on Feb 5, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

getting a bunch of shots here

by j762 on Feb 5, 2012 2:12 PM EST reply actions  

Not the craptacular PP of yesterday, but not successful, ether.

by Aliceanna on Feb 5, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Boo

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by caps&skins on Feb 5, 2012 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

TT is starting to think “You know, maybe Washington isn’t so bad after all, I could get used to this”

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

The fact that we held our own on the scoreboard and outshot the B’s is dramatically overshadowed by Laich’s injury.

Here’s hoping for a bruise.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 5, 2012 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

Am I crazy, or are the SOG the same?

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by caps&skins on Feb 5, 2012 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

Hey, we didn’t get scored on that period. woot!

by geauxcaps on Feb 5, 2012 2:14 PM EST reply actions  

Small victories.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 5, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

You know why your card isn’t working, TT? Because the Feds are messing with your credit.

Dingos are involved. Best not to ask.

by alex_k on Feb 5, 2012 2:14 PM EST reply actions  

Let me get this straight.

Wideman gets an unobstructed shot on Thomas: the Bruins were brilliant in allowing Tim to see the shot, and it’s just too easy for him.

Chara gets an unobstructed shot on Vokoun: what were the Caps thinking not covering him?

Am I missing something, or is this straight up hypocrisy?

by Flash in the Pan on Feb 5, 2012 2:15 PM EST reply actions  

They won the cup last year and they’re an original six team. Everything they do is perfect

Soon the Championship with be ours, all ours!

by kingzman264 on Feb 5, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

They love Chara for some reason.

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by caps&skins on Feb 5, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Chicks love the slapshot …

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by TheFuryUnleashed on Feb 5, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Ovi’s just getting bounced by Chara.

by yaelk on Feb 5, 2012 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

It’s all Vokoun’s fault. He’s not pitching a shutout.

by ShootTheBullets on Feb 5, 2012 2:17 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Overpaid bum.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec’ing this, it’s obviously the truth.

"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."

by Whiter Mage on Feb 5, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

It was all snark! I love Vokeswagen.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 5, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Stephen Whyno @SWhyno
#Caps spokesman says Brooks Laich is still being evaluated and his return is questionable.

Looks like we get to enjoy another month of ambiguous injury reports and bullshit a la mode from the Caps front office

Soon the Championship with be ours, all ours!

by kingzman264 on Feb 5, 2012 2:29 PM EST reply actions  

holy shit, the caps are outshooting an oppoent

by j762 on Feb 5, 2012 2:34 PM EST reply actions  

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