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RB’s question (and my answer) from the original thread

Nice pick up by GMDM to get Vermette yesterday. He should fit into Tip’s system well and provide some scoring punch. Any thoughts on the move CP?

I loved the trade. Turned around the 2nd round pick they got for Turris to get him. The late round pick (4/5) and and injured UFA AHL goalie don’t even count in my mind. He’s just the type of player Tippett likes. He’s defensively responsible yet has some skill. In addition, they know have 3 of their 4 centers signed through next season. It allows them to not rush Chipchura back and gives them center depth when he returns. Top four centers are now Hanzal, Langkow, Vermette, and Gordon. Sure no traditional 1C among the group, but all four are solid performers.

They still need another scoring wing, but like last year, with their budget its unrealistic to expect them to get one.

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by Carl Putnam on Feb 23, 2012 2:10 PM EST reply actions  

I loved the trade. I thought they didn’t give up too much going back the other way. Great work getting it done before teams start giving up on their number one targets.

"You do that, you go to the box, you know. Two minutes, by yourself, and you... feel shame" -Denis Lemieux

by leacha on Feb 23, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t even think to mention how I thought they got him relatively cheap. I realize his contract isn’t small, but its not a cap killer either.

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by Carl Putnam on Feb 23, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Good points all. I haven’t heard Langkow’s name much this year. Has he been injured this season?

Regarding Yotes and injuries. how is Brule after the cheapshot from Clifford?

by Rather Bengt on Feb 23, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Langkow’s had a rough year. If you recall he missed almost all of last season with a neck injury, so I wasn’t expecting much early. He missed a slew of games in November when his mother died. His numbers are below what I expected in terms of goals, assist, FO%. His ice time has been reduced at times as well. Never thought I’d see with 10-14 minute numbers at times.

He looked great the other night even though he didn’t get any points. Skated as well as I’ve seen him skate all season. He’s played with Doan most of the season. Tip has struggled to find a left winger to play well with them after he put Whitney on Hanzal’s line.

Noty happy about Clifford thing. One, because Brule has worked out extremely well on the 4th line. Two, because the guy has been injured enough already in his career. Three, it helps the Kings. Hate it when teams profit from their own cheapshots.

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by Carl Putnam on Feb 23, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I knew about Langkow’s neck injury last season. It’s a shame as I have always liked the guy and I thought he’d be a good vet pickup by the Yotes if he could recover.

Definite shame about Brule also. The guy does deserve a break and as you confirmed, he was settling in nicely with the Yotes.

by Rather Bengt on Feb 23, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Plenty of time yet for Langkow to prove more productive. His diminished playing time earlier in this month coupled with his long absence earlier in the season may be blessings in disguise. Hopefully he’ll be fresh come the stretch run and playoffs (fingers crossed).

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by Carl Putnam on Feb 23, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Something to add, it seems like the market was thin for Vermette, but at 3.5 could you really do better in the UFA market over the summer? People would stumble over themselves to sign him at 3.5 in the summer, so why weren’t they doing the same now?

Please, call me F&B.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

No clue. GMDM commented specifically about how the trade wasn’t just about this season. One of the rare good things about the club not having an owner is its allowed GMDM to do his thing without interference.

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by Carl Putnam on Feb 23, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s the lovely weather. =)

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by winterion on Feb 23, 2012 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

Okay, here's an Alzner pic for this thread...

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 23, 2012 2:14 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Do you remember the King of Movember…?

That'll make your weagle wink!
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by boutros23 on Feb 23, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Captain, My Captain.

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by Carl Putnam on Feb 23, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

He’;s a WILD AND CRAAAZY GUY

by Brainumbc on Feb 23, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

You guys sure are chatty today…

So’s Hamr…

That'll make your weagle wink!
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by boutros23 on Feb 23, 2012 2:15 PM EST reply actions  

Twitter mostly. Unless you want to click on Gormley, which I don’t.

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Feb 23, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

here’s one

"You should ask him [Hunter] about penalties," Hamrlik told 106.7 The Fan Washington. "When he played I think he make lots of penalties himself, so he should know better."

by Beakers Lab on Feb 23, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah that comment will get him back in a game.

by Stormblue on Feb 23, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

There was more to the benching than one bad penalty. From Gormley’s article.

“We need him playing better defensively,” Hunter said. "He’s a defensive defenseman and the way we mark scoring chances (against) he’s been involved in too many of them. That’s why he was sitting out and that’s why (Jeff) Schultz was sitting out before him.

“(Hamrlik) is backing in way too much. He’s letting (forwards) come through and they’re hitting the second tier. Sitting out is a humbling experience. We all went through it. If you played hockey or any sport you sat out. You’ve just got to go to practice and work hard like he did today. Watch video and learn from it and when you get the chance play well.”

Sounds justified to me.

by Gin and Tonic on Feb 23, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

If he’s going to sit Hamrlik for that, Carlson should have been sitting for most of the season.

Failure is always an option.

by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe, but the key is the phrase “He’s a defensive defenseman” – Hamr is, Carlson is not. Carlson also has 28 pts. This is probably also why Wideman get a pass too.

by Gin and Tonic on Feb 23, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Carlson has 6 points (3G, 3A) this calendar year, and is -11. He’s been terrible – arguably the worst dman on the Caps. I just can’t help feeling that Hunter is playing favorites here.

Failure is always an option.

by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe being 15 years younger and with more upside is reason enough?

by RossingtonCollins on Feb 23, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

If Hunter is basing his scratches off of play, as he claims he is, it shouldn’t be.

Failure is always an option.

by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

But they are in different roles.

by Gin and Tonic on Feb 23, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

And he’s contributing less in his role than Hamrlik is in his.

Failure is always an option.

by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that’s arguable.

Carlson has more points, less PIMS, and about the same in blocked shots. And he’s on the PP.

by Gin and Tonic on Feb 23, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Almost all those points were in the first half of the year though. I’m talking about recently – like the last 2 months.

Failure is always an option.

by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s still younger, faster, and better at puckhandling than Hamr.

by Gin and Tonic on Feb 23, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

And much worse in the defensive end – and not much better in the offensive end recently.

Failure is always an option.

by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

The simple fact is, Carlson has been playing terribly for the last 2 months, both offensively and defensively – so why hasn’t he sat any games yet? It looks to me like Hunter is doing just what BB did that I hated – favoring certain players and ignoring their flaws. If he truly is sitting players who play badly, as he claims, he needs to apply that across the board, and not selectively.

Failure is always an option.

by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Or maybe a offensive Dman in his 2nd year is better served by playing than sitting.

by Gin and Tonic on Feb 23, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Hunter is used to coaching kids

I’m not sure moves like this are going to work on pro’s.

by Turnstyle73 on Feb 23, 2012 8:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

If we’re trying to trade for Jeff Carter, one penny won’t do.

Unleash the Apathy.

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2012 2:15 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Things worked out better than we ever planned. Capitals fans, boys, women, and men. We were like ink and paper, numbers on a calculator.

But he made us proud, he made us rich. But how were we to know he’s counterfeit? Now everything’s ruined.

Please, call me F&B.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

The Rec’d Thing(s).

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Fair deal on a lease? Apparently accomplished, though the mission is not complete. Let's Keep United in DC and realize the dream of a stadium with local investment and incentives to US Soccer's greatest club franchise.

by Bald Pollack on Feb 23, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Now everything’s ruined.

Which brings it all back around to FnM.

You’re the boss, applesauce.

by SethB on Feb 23, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

This season has been a real jizzlobber.

It isn’t even anger-inducing. It does not seem to be worth that kind of emotional investment. It might not even be disappointing any more. It is expected.

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by macvechkin on Feb 23, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I demand more players with dyed hair!

by Brainumbc on Feb 23, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

According to PD, the asking price for Nash is:

an effective player off an NHL roster; two top prospects and a first-round draft pick.

Would Howson accept a package of Brouwer, Eakin, Holtby, and the Caps’ 2013 1st? Would you guys make that deal?

by UMDTerps3 on Feb 23, 2012 2:21 PM EST reply actions  

Absolutely not. I’ve got zero interest in Nash.

The NJ Devils model isn’t one I want to follow.

Unleash the Apathy.

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

The fanboy in me got to wondering if it was even possible, the numbers would put the Caps over the cap, so more money would need to come off the books to work.

by UMDTerps3 on Feb 23, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t. We need a top-6 center, not winger.

Failure is always an option.

by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Would we want to keep a top 6 center after this year, though? With Nikki back we wouldn’t need a 1C and Marjo will probably be ready next year for 2C full time

by Brainumbc on Feb 23, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I doubt Mackan will be ready – he’s shown no signs of that. We need a 2C who can also fill in at 1C if needed. Mackan should get bumped down to 3C, or else moved to wing.

Failure is always an option.

by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure if he’d be ready for 2C, but I was thinking that if you could even put Laich at 2C, you have 8-19 carrying one line, Nash and 21 or 90 on the 2nd. Essentially it’s the same plan GMGM had this year, but you replace Semin with Nash/more consistency.

by UMDTerps3 on Feb 23, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Caps have tried that for 3 years now, and it hasn’t worked. Time to move to a new plan – get a center who can carry the 2nd.

Failure is always an option.

by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t necessarily disagree with you, but at the same time I think Semin has been the wrong piece to this plan. If you acquire someone like Nash, he’s a person that opposing teams have to gameplan for, much like Ovechkin. The 2C is a more pressing need, but I don’t want to have to settle on someone that sort of fits this team’s needs, or is on a decline. I think Nash for that proposed package is great for the Caps, but it’s not necessarily the direction the team should go in. That being said, if we’re talking about committing just under 8 million in cap space to another winger, I think I’d rather make a run a Parise, and save my picks/prospects.

by UMDTerps3 on Feb 23, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d much rather use a smaller package and get Carter. He can play 1C or 2C, he is solid on both ends of the ice, and he’d love to get out of Columbus. Nash does far less to meet this team’s needs.

Failure is always an option.

by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Has there been any talk on what the asking price for Carter is?

by UMDTerps3 on Feb 23, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Nothing as definite as the price for Nash, at least in the past week or two. CBJ picked Carter up for the 11th overall pick, a third rounder and Jakub Voracek. I have to imagine the baseline is a first, a high level prospect, and maybe something else. Their administration probably isn’t going to want to generate negative value that quickly.

"You do that, you go to the box, you know. Two minutes, by yourself, and you... feel shame" -Denis Lemieux

by leacha on Feb 23, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

CBJ likely won’t get that return for Carter.

Unleash the Apathy.

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think they will either, but I would bet that’s what they’re chasing.

"You do that, you go to the box, you know. Two minutes, by yourself, and you... feel shame" -Denis Lemieux

by leacha on Feb 23, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Offer them two first round picks.

thefourthperiod was on twitter last night saying that there has been a lot of stuff said about Carter’s character and that’s why many teams have been staying away.

by kovachs on Feb 23, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d rather have one of those picks than MarJo at this point.

by Dirk Dangler on Feb 23, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

With Nikki back we wouldn’t need a 1C and Marjo will probably be ready next year for 2C full time

I think this season has shown the Caps need as many scoring line centers as they can get their hands on. Then the Caps can break in guys like Johanson (rebreak him in?) and Kuznetsov (hopefully) on the wing.

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by cainoo7x on Feb 23, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

at this rate it doesnt look like MarJo will be a rock solid 2C next year

by Davide Don of Rio on Feb 23, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

MoJo has looked like the new fish on the cellblock this year: everyone keeps taking his fruit cup.

You’re the boss, applesauce.

by SethB on Feb 23, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

So who is the Squirrel Master?

Once you take the fisting element out, it's not romantic anymore.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 23, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Chimera is the Squirrel Master.

You’re the boss, applesauce.

by SethB on Feb 23, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Perreault as scarface

by Brainumbc on Feb 23, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Somebody other than Brouwer and I would do that trade!

by DBake on Feb 23, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Whoa, over 800 posts at 2:00?

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Feb 23, 2012 2:23 PM EST reply actions  

We’re not quite to Bourqueian levels yet. =)
There’s a thesis waiting to be written.. posting as therapy.

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by winterion on Feb 23, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I know the Caps need more centers, but if they could somehow parlay Hamrlik + something (Eakin?) into Chris Stewart, my head would explode.

Unleash the Apathy.

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2012 2:25 PM EST reply actions  

You Avs homer. This guy’s shit season hasn’t soured you?

Please, call me F&B.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope. Buy cheap. The guy’s got a career shooting % around 13. This year? Around 9%.

Unleash the Apathy.

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

but we already have plenty of players shooting well below their career average’s this year

by Beakers Lab on Feb 23, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

A few, yes. A Stewart acquisition wouldn’t be for this year though.

Unleash the Apathy.

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

What do you think it would take to re-sign him?

Once you take the fisting element out, it's not romantic anymore.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 23, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

RFA coming off a shitty season. . . $3-3.5m?

Unleash the Apathy.

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I know, I was being a smart-ass on that one.

by Beakers Lab on Feb 23, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Frankly, I don’t think we can get too picky with any Hamr returns. Just to have that $7Million cash seems to me to be enough.

You're right; I don't know what I am talking about.

by Wilderthing on Feb 23, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

oh don’t get me wrong, I would be very much ok with Hamr + Eakin for Stewart

by Beakers Lab on Feb 23, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

How about Hamr + ?? (something else) to Oilers for Hemsky? I keep hearing they need some ‘veteran’ presence and Lord knows we need someone who can score. I think the cash could probably cancel out in the right package.

You're right; I don't know what I am talking about.

by Wilderthing on Feb 23, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

No. UFA. Frequently injured. Older.

He’s Semin-lite.

Unleash the Apathy.

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

More from RDS, re: the Jackets

Parlant des Blue Jackets, voici les autres joueurs qui vont quitter prochainement. On parle de Samuel Pahlsson et de R.J. Umberger.

Basically, Pahlsson and RJ Umberger will be other players on the way out.

That'll make your weagle wink!
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by boutros23 on Feb 23, 2012 2:56 PM EST reply actions  

Though, 4.6 is pretty heavy. We’d have to somehow move someone like Ward to make that one happen, yeah?

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by winterion on Feb 23, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I love RDS. Makes me challenge my diminishing French skills.

That'll make your weagle wink!
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by boutros23 on Feb 23, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

C’mon Guy Hebert, we know you can do it.

by Rather Bengt on Feb 23, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Love the continuity, but I have a small question. I don’t speak French, but since she’s a lady shouldn’t it be Gal Shebert?

Please, call me F&B.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m a woman; don’t know how much of a lady I am.

That'll make your weagle wink!
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by boutros23 on Feb 23, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Well I didn’t think “girl” was apt either.

Please, call me F&B.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

“Lady” suggests some sort of decorum I rarely display.

That'll make your weagle wink!
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by boutros23 on Feb 23, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

And yet all you have to do is add “of the night” and the implication goes the complete opposite direction.

Please, call me F&B.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Can we pay now for an Umberger last year?

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by Alz in the family on Feb 23, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

omnomnom

umberger drools

#NeedsMoreHendricks

by Addison H. on Feb 23, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Question for D'oh

Last night on the TSN Quiz, they asked who the panel thought would be the role player most likely moved by the deadline. Bob McK went off the board and chose Daniel Winnik of the Avs. I haven’t seen Winnik play much. Can you give a brief scouting report on him.

by Rather Bengt on Feb 23, 2012 3:08 PM EST reply actions  

The player he’s most like on the Caps is Chimera. Fast winger who loves to use his speed to the outside to generate chances.

Like Chimera, he doesn’t possess a very accurate shot.

Unleash the Apathy.

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

The only real solution to losing streaks (Alas, the formatting of sbn ruins it somewhat but whatever)

1. Oh no! The __CAPS___ (Fill in the blank) have played horrible for the past TOO LONG (Time interval)
2. If something is not done soon, the CAPS will be not _ BE BETTER THAN FLORIDA / MAKE PLAYOFFS _ (goal(s))
3. Fire everyone listed on the media guide that isn’t a player and replace them with somebody else.
4. Trade everyone who is good for players who aren’t as good, and send everyone else to _THE AHL_ (place players don’t like).
5. Then, instead of sucking for reasons that can’t be determined, the _ CAPS _ will stink because they aren’t very good.
6. Being bad can only be fixed by drafting players, and hoping they later become good players… But the draft is after the season ends, so the __CAPS___ can’t possibly accomplish the team goal(s) this season.
7. Crisis Postponed Averted.

Obviously.

OPERATION TANK IS A GO.
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by Ubiquitous on Feb 23, 2012 3:12 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

According to Burnside, the Caps have made an “egregious” mistake in letting Boudreau go, as evidenced by Anaheim’s current run. The one advantage to the article was that it actually DIDN’T have a Sidney Crosby mention.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 23, 2012 3:23 PM EST reply actions  

Do people here like Burnside? I see the insane amounts of negativity in the comment section of his articles so I’m curious as to what the Rink’s general opinion about Burnside is..

by RossingtonCollins on Feb 23, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s about right.

Failure is always an option.

by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

my take? Burnside is an idiot. About pretty much everything.

Bruce had to go—and I’m one of those people who hits rock bottom watching Caps games and goes “it’s not faaaaaaaaaaaair! Why does Anaheim have the fun coach??? WHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE!” The team was blocking him out. He openly admitted he had no idea what to do to turn around this team.

it’s not that firing Bruce was the wrong decision so much as hiring Hunter was.

That, and there is something deeply deeply deeply wrong with this team. but damn if I can identify it. It goes beyond rock stars and mentally fragile guys and coaches fighting with players through the media.

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by RedBirdie on Feb 23, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t disagree with your analysis too much other than even if Boudreau “had” to go it doesn’t mean the team’s state at that time was ‘his’ fault. That is, GMGM’s main off season signings (other than TV) were awful and did not – and could not – play in a Boudreau ‘system.’ In other words, he may have been handed the wrong players to be successful. Plus, he can’t be blamed when his multi-millionaire players don’t produce or are injured. Just saying….

You're right; I don't know what I am talking about.

by Wilderthing on Feb 23, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

because when a coach gets up in front of the assembled media and says “I have no idea” you have to make a change. If Bruce is saying that stuff and giving off that defeated attitude to the press, you better believe the players saw it weeks before. His job is to a) win games; b) motivate the players to give 100% every night so they can achieve objective a. If he can’t successfully do b, then a isn’t possible and there’s no sense in keeping him around.

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by RedBirdie on Feb 23, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Which BB system? He wasn’t still doing the run and gun – he was on to something else.

He was trying to implement a tighter system, but I think the issue was that he didn’t like it and wasn’t comfortable with it. He’s said as much himself in interviews after his firing.

I hope he had at least some input on personnel. Otherwise that’s a major problem.

By that standard (didn’t have the players he wanted) at this point, you can’t pass judgement on DH since he doesn’t have the kind of players he possibly wants.

by Gin and Tonic on Feb 23, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know if its even as simple as the players. I never thought I’d see last night John Carlson being knocked away from in front by the defender. Instead of pushing back, Carlson set up shop next to him, still right in front. I admit I’ve never played hockey, but that looked completely soft to me.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 23, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with what you and RedBirdie are saying, believe it or not. My overall point is that the discussion of what is wrong with this Cap team should be primarily personnel. And that is not something you can blame the coach for, other than the motivation aspect of course. The focus now should therefore be on the players and GMGM so they can get the right players for whatever ‘system’ they want. Then lets see if the coach can make it work.

You're right; I don't know what I am talking about.

by Wilderthing on Feb 23, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah, absolulely. I still think, depending on any upcoming moves, etc., that Hunter will be lucky to last till next November. The past few games are looking awfully close to BB’s last games. Not that the Caps will fire Hunter imminently, but instead of being a coin flip team its becoming a plug-nickel team.

"I'd have to say Russian girls over American girls. They have much better fashion sense, I think." -Semyon Varlamov

by KillerTestudo on Feb 23, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Hunter will leave only if he wants to leave. Unless GMGM leaves first.

by Gin and Tonic on Feb 23, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Every blue moon Burnside will say something intelligent. I let other people tweet that he’s done so before I believe it.

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Feb 23, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s an . . . interesting way to read that post.

Unleash the Apathy.

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Isn’t Burnside one of the few “experts” that actually still thinks Stecks hit on Crosby was dirty? The only reason Milbury didn’t like it was because Steckel didn’t leave his feet and lead with his elbow.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 23, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

how can you not rec this? Spot on about Mad Mike.

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by RedBirdie on Feb 23, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, just old school hockey, that’s all.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 23, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Regardless of what he’s written in the past, your interpretation of this particular blog post is pretty far off target.

Unleash the Apathy.

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you have a link to it?

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by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s his “5 things” blog or whatever. Caps are #4 I believe.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 23, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/14925/5-things-time-not-on-kings-side

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 23, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks to both of you. KT, your interpretation of that post is off.

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by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, 2 for 2 so far. Now that i reread it, yeah, I was wrong. I was just overzealous talking shit on Burnside because about 90% of the time, I really, really hate his articles.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 23, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually, come to think of it, my ridiculous bias of certain things makes me an ideal writer for ESPN.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 23, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m with you on that. I’ve read very little of his that was worth the time – I try to ignore him.

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by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

The Ducks have a good roster once Hiller improved so would the team with or without BB.

BB’s regular season success doesn’t mean much to me. If (big if) they make the playoffs – they’ll face either DET or VAN in the first round. Something tells me that won’t go well.

BB has wowed in the regular season before.

by Gin and Tonic on Feb 23, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I think they could get by Vancouver maybe, but Detroit I think would manhandle them.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 23, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

except Detroit sucks donkey balls on the road. Steal one in Detroit (and this goes for any team) and you’ve given yourself a fighting chance.

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by RedBirdie on Feb 23, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Luckily for Detriot, no one has “stolen” a home game from them in the past four months.

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by Ubiquitous on Feb 23, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll just point out the last team that even stood a fighting chance in Detroit were……the Ducks. Lost in the Gimmick.

I’m hoping the Ducks can pull of a miracle upset over the Wings for other reasons, too. Misery loves company.

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by RedBirdie on Feb 23, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

wow, and they even out-shot the Red Wings, and i didn’t think that was possible.

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by Ubiquitous on Feb 23, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

they even had a goal waved off. They’re officially in full-on BB mode.

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by RedBirdie on Feb 23, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Right, but regular season and playoffs are different. Look at our record against the Rangers last year.

Not that I wouldn’t want the Wings to lose. Just don’t really want the Ducks to do it. Really, I don’t want the Ducks to make the post-season.

by Gin and Tonic on Feb 23, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Unfortunately, being a Washington franchise, BB will lead the Ducks to the Cup. It’s just how things work.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 23, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

You need these guys

…to steal one in Detroit:

(And yes, the original is better…)

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 23, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Anaheim in the Playoffs...

…is going to have a rough time if they get there. Their back line, though solid, is not one that gets anyone excited. A team like Detroit or Vancouver would be able to move the puck at will in the attack zone against them. If they draw St. Louis though, they could advance.

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 23, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I certainly wouldn’t mind watching BB vs. Halak, round 2 though.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 23, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I would… it’d look a whole lot like in 2010, with Anaheim getting a ton of shots and losing games 2-1.

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 23, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, tragic mistake letting a coach with such a proven playoff record go.

It isn’t even anger-inducing. It does not seem to be worth that kind of emotional investment. It might not even be disappointing any more. It is expected.

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by macvechkin on Feb 23, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Sweet Jesus, now Toews got in a car wreck? Doesn’t sound terribly serious, but still.

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by boutros23 on Feb 23, 2012 3:51 PM EST reply actions  

Looks like he crashed into the “L” support fairly hard. I used to run into those things a lot, too, when playing Cruis’n USA back in the day.

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by cainoo7x on Feb 23, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

hard enough the ambulance was called.

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by RedBirdie on Feb 23, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

according to the Trib

The car clipped an “L” support beam, causing front-end damage, the report said.

Looks like it did more than clip…

by kingbonehead on Feb 23, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

yeeeeeeah. A high end piece of fine German engineering like that takes a little more than just clipping a support beam to result in that sort of damage.

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by RedBirdie on Feb 23, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe Kane was actually in the car, and he punched Johnny in the back of the head when he didn’t have exact change

by Brainumbc on Feb 23, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Taking that sort of damage to the front is vastly preferable than to the passenger compartment. That’s the engineering bit.

by discuit on Feb 23, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

oh, absolutely (having been on the inside of a car that took major damage to the passenger compartment, I’ll take a front-on collision any day!)

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by RedBirdie on Feb 23, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

The ambulance usually always comes if you call the authorities to report an accident. Or in this case, if others call to report an accident.

by jopierce on Feb 24, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

how do you do this? It must have stepped off the curb suddenly into his path.

by kingbonehead on Feb 23, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

As in, the beams that support the elevated train rails/platforms? Eesh.

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by CapitalCentre on Feb 23, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Icky for a concussed guy.

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by boutros23 on Feb 23, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

That picture makes me appreciate Ralph Nader and “Unsafe at Any Speed”

by discuit on Feb 23, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if Kane had to recommend a taxi service.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 23, 2012 3:54 PM EST reply actions   4 recs

Do any teams (and the Caps in particular) ever employ a sports psychologist? Or have any Caps coaches studied the subject a la Guy Boucher? Just thinking it might be a useful thing to do. Some coaches are just naturally good motivators but others, it would appear, could use some help in that regard. I know golfers tend to employ a mental coach to help with the game, maybe it could help in hockey too. Lord knows this team is really mental right now and maybe having some basic knowledge of sports psychology principles might go a long way in righting the ship.

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by Edanger6 on Feb 23, 2012 3:59 PM EST reply actions  

“The players, with the jerseys that are different from yours, are not on your team, stop passing to them”

"I'd have to say Russian girls over American girls. They have much better fashion sense, I think." -Semyon Varlamov

by KillerTestudo on Feb 23, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think it was Boom Boom Geffrion who once told his players (and this is best read aloud in a thick french accent), “I need you guys to do three things out there – skate, and shoot”

Left unsaid was
…..

Profit.

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by Edanger6 on Feb 23, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

McGuire had hair?!?!!!

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by oldemystix on Feb 23, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

...a.aaaaAARH!

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by winterion on Feb 23, 2012 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Caps seem to be playing to “not lose” rather than “play to win”. When you do the former, 9 times out of 10 you lose, oddly enough.

by OvechkinGR8 on Feb 23, 2012 4:04 PM EST reply actions  

Can we just get a Capitals trade to support/criticize please?

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by STLSpidey on Feb 23, 2012 4:43 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

you’re getting all twitchy. :)

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by RedBirdie on Feb 23, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha…with you there. Every day that goes by and something doesn’t happen I get a little more nervous that they might not do anything.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 23, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s going to take GMGM a while to read through both of today’s threads and go through all the trade scenario’s that were presented.

by Beakers Lab on Feb 23, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That’s what you have staff people for.

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by gfcaps fan on Feb 23, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

John Carlson and 1st for Hal Gill. Then we can have a monopoly on slow, old, veteran defensemen.

"I'd have to say Russian girls over American girls. They have much better fashion sense, I think." -Semyon Varlamov

by KillerTestudo on Feb 23, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, no legitimate cup contender would ever worry about having to go up against Gill and Hamrlik.

by Stormblue on Feb 23, 2012 7:05 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

agree! I keep checking the Rink home page to see if there’s a thread discussing the fact that xx and zz plus a pick have been traded for yy but have been disappointed.

by kingbonehead on Feb 23, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

The Caps defense isn’t the only thing slow and confusing.

"I'd have to say Russian girls over American girls. They have much better fashion sense, I think." -Semyon Varlamov

by KillerTestudo on Feb 23, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Holtby, Wideman, Caps 1st (2012), Avs First (2012), Eakin, Halpern for Nash/Carter

by mc43342 on Feb 23, 2012 5:08 PM EST reply actions  

Hmmmm……..

"I'd have to say Russian girls over American girls. They have much better fashion sense, I think." -Semyon Varlamov

by KillerTestudo on Feb 23, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Nash or Carter or Nash and Carter?

If Nash or Carter – too much.

Nash and Carter — probably too little.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 23, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I read it as Nash or Carter. And that is way way too much for either.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 23, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I read it as both.

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by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2012 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Not enough. You are giving them a young goalie and young forward, two firsts, and two expiring contracts that, as a non-playoff team, they don’t really need.

The only way that trade works is if you throw in Semin (and take someone out) and it’s a pure salary cap deal.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 23, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

If Semin is thrown in who else could we get back from them?

by mc43342 on Feb 23, 2012 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Here’s the problem: Wideman, Halpern, and Semin are all UFA’s this offseason. None of them do Columbus any good – they’d want picks, prospects, or players for the future.

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by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes – that’s what i was trying to say. If viewed only as a salary dump, they’d be getting expired contracts in exchange for long-term deals.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 23, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

So what would be a realistic deal for Nash and Carter?

by mc43342 on Feb 23, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly, I don’t know if there is one. The Caps shouldn’t target Nash anyways – they don’t need another overpriced winger.

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by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I was just thinking he could be a potential replacement for Semin, not really thinking realistically

by mc43342 on Feb 23, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Even if possible, it would likely have to include someone like Alzner, Carlson, Orlov, MoJo, Neuvy, etc.

You have to trade value to get value.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 23, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

i’m an idiot, meant both.

by mc43342 on Feb 23, 2012 5:43 PM EST reply actions  

Bob McKenzie ‏ @TSNBobMcKenzie
LAK and CBJ are working hard to get a Jeff Carter trade done — Jack Johnson’s name featured prominently as well — but told not done. Yet.

Argh.

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by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2012 5:48 PM EST reply actions  

Well I guess that would cement the “stand pat” trade deadline. Unless they are working up something for Statsny.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 23, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Mike Richards is excited they’re getting the band back together.

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by RedBirdie on Feb 23, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Hide the alcohol!

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by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Help me here….that would be 3 ‘elite’ centers for LA. I thought they wanted Nash. Is one of the centers coming back?

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by Wilderthing on Feb 23, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s what I was wondering. It is possible he might push Richards down a line, or one of them might go to the wing – Richards has 14-17-31 in 53 GP.

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by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2012 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Or they could be shipping Richards out. I haven’t heard him mentioned in this trade though.

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by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2012 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I am guessing with you that one of them – Richards or Kopitar – would slide to wing. Probably not Carter, though but who knows. Too bad we couldn’t 3-way with them with Semin so we would end up with one of the centers – ANY of them!

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by Wilderthing on Feb 23, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, this is what really blows my mind about this trade. Carter doesn’t really fill a need for LA.

by Murshawursha on Feb 23, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not convinced that’s true. Stacking centers doesn’t seem to be hurting the teams that do it. At one point, I think half of Philly’s forward corps was centers.

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by winterion on Feb 24, 2012 2:28 AM EST up reply actions  

DRY ISLAND HERE WE COME!

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by RedBirdie on Feb 23, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Seems like every other team recognizes their obvious shortcomings.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 23, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s official. Damn, I wanted Carter. For only a conditional 2012 or 2013 first and Johnson.

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by Bman21212 on Feb 23, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, fucking really George? You couldn’t beat Jack Johnson and a fucking conditional pick?

Fuck. Fuck fuck fuck. I’m almost ready to fire him for this alone. I’m really tired of GMGM not actually having the balls to make any kind of big splash.

Course there’s no way to know if he actually tried or not, but rationality will come AFTER I’m done being pissed off at missing the best chance we’ve had at a second-line center in years.

by Murshawursha on Feb 23, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

What offer do you make? The Caps don’t have a good mix to out-bid them. If Orlov was a little more proven he’d be the guy, but right now JJ is at least a proven PMD who can put up power play points. He’s an absolute sieve defensively, but he’s an established NHL player. Would you give up Carlson, Alzner, or Green in that deal? That’s out-bidding LAK by quite a bit, and would it really be as satisfying of a deal?

Please, call me F&B.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I was asking myself that. Could we have gone Carlson and a 1st for him?

Would I be happy about that? I don’t know.

It isn’t even anger-inducing. It does not seem to be worth that kind of emotional investment. It might not even be disappointing any more. It is expected.

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by macvechkin on Feb 23, 2012 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

That was exactly what I was thinking we could have done to match, and yes, I would have been okay with that. We have enough other options defensively that we could have gotten away with it, and we’ve needed a goddamn second-line center for years, and it’s not gonna happen unless we give up something of value in return.

Guess there’s still Statsny, but his cap hit makes me a sad panda.

by Murshawursha on Feb 23, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Carlson and a first, that is. Alzner’s untouchable. Green… I don’t know. Green for Carter straight up maybe, but throwing in a first with him would be overpaying IMO.

by Murshawursha on Feb 23, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

(Silver Lining) Stastny’s contract is only 2 years at least, so less of a commitment in comparison.

by senseless228 on Feb 23, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Can’t imagine Sherman is too eager to deal with McPhee again though.

by Murshawursha on Feb 23, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I doubt it too, but who knows. GMGM always seems to have surprises up his sleeve (good and bad).

by senseless228 on Feb 23, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Or, how about Orlov, Holtby, and a first? CBJ needs a goalie.

by Murshawursha on Feb 23, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Semin for J. Johnson + first-rounder? Buy or sell? That’s what I was thinking when I heard the deal went down. Semin doesn’t show up some nights, Carter is hurt some nights. :)

by patred48 on Feb 23, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

That doesn’t make any sense for LAK at all. Semin is UFA on July 1.

It isn’t even anger-inducing. It does not seem to be worth that kind of emotional investment. It might not even be disappointing any more. It is expected.

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by macvechkin on Feb 23, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re right, forgot about that.

by patred48 on Feb 23, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t do it, unless we could flip Johnson to someone else.

Failure is always an option.

by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Craig Anderson out indefinitely after cutting his hand at home! Too bad fro the Sens.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 23, 2012 5:58 PM EST reply actions  

Like, at home in his house, cutting a bagel? Or at the rink? Or is it unknown?

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by boutros23 on Feb 23, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

At his house.

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by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Shitty timing.

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by boutros23 on Feb 23, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Its not like the Capitals do any better against backups these days though.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 23, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, I mean not just for us, but for the Sens.

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by boutros23 on Feb 23, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Bagel? Why is it always breakfast foods?

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by CapitalCentre on Feb 23, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

My mom ended up in the ER twice in one summer, cutting bagels. We got her a bagel slicer after that.

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by boutros23 on Feb 23, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Everyone should have a bagel slicer. Not that I actually use it all the time.

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by gfcaps fan on Feb 23, 2012 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

and this couldn’t have happened on TUESDAY?!?! Nice timing, Anderson.

I say this is jest. I’m very sorry he cut his hand at home and is now out. I only wish injury on the truly awful people, like my co-worker.

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by RedBirdie on Feb 23, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Carter to the Kings for Jack Johnson and a 1st…

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by iwearstripes on Feb 23, 2012 8:53 PM EST reply actions  

Was looking at his career info and just now realized Carolina gave him away for virtually nothing Eric Belanger and Tim Gleason after drafting him 3 overall back in 2005.

It isn’t even anger-inducing. It does not seem to be worth that kind of emotional investment. It might not even be disappointing any more. It is expected.

-Peerless 5.6.2011

by macvechkin on Feb 23, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Does this seem cheap to anyone else?

by Turnstyle73 on Feb 23, 2012 9:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That contract cooled his trade value a bit.

It isn’t even anger-inducing. It does not seem to be worth that kind of emotional investment. It might not even be disappointing any more. It is expected.

-Peerless 5.6.2011

by macvechkin on Feb 23, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Jealous of you guys

I would kill to have the Pens in the Southeast Division. Instead, we are stuck with the Rangers who are going Megatron on just about everyone this year.

by Matt Shaffer on Feb 23, 2012 9:28 PM EST reply actions  

At least Toronto lost…another effing loser points for the Kittens, though.

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