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Recap: Canes 5, Caps 0

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Coming off a sloppy, mistake-filled loss to Tampa, one might assume/hope/pray that the Caps would arrive in Raleigh fired up, ready to take back control of the division against the East's lowliest team. Of course if one did so, one probably hasn't been watching this team all year - because if there's one thing we can count on with this team, it's that we never really know which one is going to show up.

Tonight they never really did show up, once again failing to take advantage of a depleted team and a rare game against the Hurricanes that didn't feature Cam Ward between the pipes. It was bad from the start, with a sloppy first few minutes leading to a sloppy middle... and an ending that couldn't come soon enough.

Ten more notes on the game:

  • Winning games is hard when you have to climb out of a hole, and the Caps have been trying to do that far too often lately. Tonight was more of the same, as they gave up the first goal for the fifth straight game and were never able to find their feet. Or the puck. Or their teammates. Or a clue.
  • The Caps were down by a goal before the game was four minutes old. Less than two minutes later, the deficit was two, as a bad turnover at the blue line combined with an ill-timed pinch by Mike Green led to a few quick Carolina passes and their second goal of the night.
  • Fighting is often a way to shift momentum, to turn the tide in your team's favor or at the very least fire up your teammates. Well, the Caps had three fights (or "fights") tonight, and if there was a shift in the Caps' energy level after, it wasn't visible to the naked eye. Not really sure what Troy Brouwer was doing going after rookie Justin Faulk, but the frustration was understandable. And good on Hendricks for using one of the fights to avenge Jeff Halpern, at least, after Halpern took a high hit from Carolina's Derek Joslin.
  • We've seen plenty of games this year where the goalie is the problem, and plenty where the goalie was the only good thing going. And say what you will about that first goal Tomas Vokoun gave up but tonight was most certainly the latter, as he and Michal Neuvirth stood little chance against a Carolina onslaught enabled by shoddy, sloppy play in front of them.
  • As if losing in this way wasn't awful enough, as the game went on the Caps also started to lose healthy bodies, as Alex Ovechkin headed back to the locker room toward the end of the second (although he did eventually return for the third) with some sort of ailment and Brooks Laich appeared to have dinged up his knee. Hopefully it's just bumps and bruised egos for both, but time will tell.
  • Shut out by a kid who has never had an NHL shutout and whose last shutout at any level was two years ago? Bad. Failing to pepper said kid with as many shots as possible, knowing that he's backing up a team with a lackluster defense? Badder.
  • The lone bright spot of the evening was the work of the newly reunited fourth line of Halpern, Jay Beagle and Joel Ward. The trio didn't generate much in terms of shots on goal or scoring chances, but at least they brought energy and a bit of offensive zone presence with them on nearly every shift. Which sadly is what passes for a bright spot in this one.
  • Hard not to hate Eric Staal, isn't it?
  • At some point the Caps need to explore new options for either using Marcus Johansson more effectively or sitting his butt down until he figures some stuff out. We love the kid, and he's still young, but his lack of awareness with the puck and his inability to create anything resembling offense is disturbing - and thanks to the ongoing absence of Nicklas Backstrom, incredibly noticeable.
  • There weren't many Caps who emerged from this one relatively unscathed. In fact, only John Carlson, Joel Ward, Matt Hendricks and Karl Alzner managed to not be on the ice for a single goal-against. And considering the way things have gone lately, at least one of those names is pretty surprising.

Games like this belong in one place and one place only: the trash can. Very little about this game was encouraging, inspiring, entertaining or even worth salvaging. All we can do is what we hope the Caps are doing - taking what few lessons they can from the experience and putting it completely out of their mind.

Because thanks to a light NHL schedule today, even with the loss the Caps are exactly where they were before, with another chance to climb back into the playoffs and continue to challenge Florida for the division on Wednesday night. Let's hope that when they depart from Raleigh, they leave whatever that was behind and focus on the task ahead.

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The acrostic says all that needs to be said. Can we all get brain bleach to erase this game from our memories?

Failure is always an option.

by timmyv38 on Feb 20, 2012 10:36 PM EST reply actions  

I feel like the acrostic almost ALWAYS says all that needs to be said…
The only reason for the recap is to make an acrostic!

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by SuperNewb on Feb 20, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t like to lose.

by dcrothman on Feb 20, 2012 10:37 PM EST reply actions  

The Caps are your Kobayashi Maru scenario then.

Hopefully J.T. Kirk shows up here in the third act

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by Icebat on Feb 20, 2012 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, Becca, I’m so sorry for you.

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by gfcaps fan on Feb 20, 2012 10:37 PM EST reply actions  

Thank you.

Dingos are involved. Best not to ask.

by alex_k on Feb 20, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

It is frustrating though, kind of reminds me of Carlos Rogers with the Redskins. Always so close, team finally dumps him, goes on to be a complete stud in San Fran.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 20, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course it’s frustrating. It’s Capitals hockey.

Dingos are involved. Best not to ask.

by alex_k on Feb 20, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I just want members that struggle with my washington teams go off and struggle somewhere else too!

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 20, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, I have to disagree.

He went through a really tough time last year and turned it around. I believe the team has just stop caring all together. It doesn’t seem to matter who is behind the bench. All media seems to feel the captain has stopped caring as much and it shows in the whole team.

by brettpedigo on Feb 20, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Turned it around only to bow out of the playoffs. Again. Sorry, but it was a change that needed to be made and could even be considered overdue.

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by Bald Pollack on Feb 20, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

really?

So choking in the second round is worse than this? There is a change that needs to me made… The Captaincy. Funny what a little heart will do.

by brettpedigo on Feb 20, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, you’re going to have to do better than the jersey or Ovechkin’s C.

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by Bald Pollack on Feb 20, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

What do you think will motivate him?

He just laughed off GMGM and Olie’s comments.

by brettpedigo on Feb 20, 2012 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

You don’t think there’s a little bit of dishonesty when it comes to dealing with the press? Maybe he talked to one (or both) of them after it happened, I’d doubt you’re going to read about it.

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by Bald Pollack on Feb 20, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions  

He just laughed off GMGM and Olie’s comments.

The very fact that your statement comes across as factual makes me wonder whether you consider context at all especially when it comes to things mentioned in the press.

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by Christoph J on Feb 20, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I am lolerskating at the idea that Ovi’s captaincy is the primary issue here.

And if the team is going to flame out, I’d sort of rather they do it in spectacular fashion. It makes it easier to identify the flaws.

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by Hang a Laingtern on Your Problems on Feb 20, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

No heart in this team.

once the second goal goes in, I knew they would get shutout. Ovie is getting called out my his GM and an assistant coach for not having the same heart he once did. He is not working hard in practice. You do not think that trickles down? I am not saying to strip the C, I am saying that he needs to wok harder and inspire this roster a little more.

by brettpedigo on Feb 20, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

and I’m saying there’s 22 other adult men on the team that need to grow a pair if they can’t find the motivation and heart within themselves to play hard and play well, regardless of how the guy with the “C” on his cheat is playing.

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by RedBirdie on Feb 20, 2012 11:11 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Good point. They shouldn’t need a leader, but it really helps… And a good example to follow in practice and off the ice. Men follow leaders.

by brettpedigo on Feb 20, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that type of leadership is overrated. Makes great movie stories, but not that effective in the real life. Skills and tenacity is more important

What doesnt kill you makes you stronger.

by BetterOffWith28 on Feb 20, 2012 11:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Leadership helps a team come together and play as a team. They have the skills, but lack tenacity. There is no real leadership on the ice, off the ice, on the bench or in the front office.

by PaperBag on Feb 21, 2012 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

The type of leadership you describe works when the followers have passive roles (just follow instructions for example). This is not the case with team sports players where each player has a very specific function/task to perform. I’m not saying leadership doesn’t factor in, it does, but not to the degree you’re saying.

What doesnt kill you makes you stronger.

by BetterOffWith28 on Feb 21, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

While this doesn’t tell the entire story of his play in the playoffs…when applying the basic minimum games played argument, I believe the Captain is still the current active leader in points per game in the playoffs. I wish more of our guys had followed that lead over the last 4 years each spring.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2012 1:26 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Freudian slip?

regardless of how the guy with the "C" on his cheat is playing.

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by miseenjeu on Feb 20, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

you know deep down that I think he’s a dirty little steroid cheat!

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by RedBirdie on Feb 20, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

You know what all those East Germans are like!

Failure is always an option.

by timmyv38 on Feb 20, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Losing they way they lost in the playoffs is worse than this, imo.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 20, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

stripping Ovechkin of the C is not going to suddenly fix the structural problems with this team.

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by RedBirdie on Feb 20, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

True. GMGM has 6 days to make structural changes, but there is something more going on here. Sometimes goalies get pulled, fights are started or coaches are fired just to shake up the team, and not necessarily because the performance of the individual is the issue, (although with debatable results). Pulling the C off of sweater #8 is another possible weapon in a dwindling arsenal that management has at its disposal. Short of a blockbuster trade, I can think of nothing more dramatic. Of course, Ted has one more tool to use than others…

by Boodgiesdad on Feb 21, 2012 6:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I believe the team has just stop caring all together.

It stopped caring for Boudreau. He had lost the room. He almost literally threw his hands in the air and said, “I don’t know what to do.” There’s no going back after that.

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by J.P. on Feb 21, 2012 6:39 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think a lot of caps fans feel that Boudreau didn’t have to go. I’m not sure what made it untenable, other than fan pressure.

I think you can make a fair point that the ‘bleeping’ ship has sailed and that alone is reason for not discussing it. But I think it can be debated whether or not he “had to go”. It’s your blog though, not gonna step on any toes.

by helo29 on Feb 20, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Have you ever thought that perhaps it was time for BB to go because he and the team were no longer in sync. Losing a team is a two-way street: the fault of both the coach and the players. And remaking/re-tweaking his system yet again a third time at the beginning of this season does make for a garbled message to the team.

I’m a huge fan of BB, but I believe he is a great developmental coach, one who fits with a team for a specific period of time. For me he is the type of coach that is great at unleashing creativity and improvisational moves, which works very well at first. And appears to be just what the Ducks needed.

However, after so many years with the Caps this team needed more discipline and less freelancing. Despite the disappointments of Hunter and the seeming inability of this team to play his system, I’m fine with BB moving on to another team, thankfully in the Western Conference.

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by capsyoungguns on Feb 20, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course I’ve thought about that. I have no blind love for BB.

It’s a huge conversation, obviously, and one that’s probably best not had. But there are plenty of us who have spent a lot of time thinking about it, who love the caps, and who didn’t think it was time for BB to go.

by helo29 on Feb 20, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough. But his getting fired had nothing to do with fan pressure. I think too often people—not just here but in the media and elsewhere.—point to one side or the other and assign blame. As far as I’m concerned the situation was far more complex and fragile due to some rather large playoff failures. And BB had a hand in those failures. I apportion the blame equally.

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by capsyoungguns on Feb 20, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Well said, and very fair.

by helo29 on Feb 20, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

It had nothing to do with fan pressure (or he would’ve been gone long before). It had everything to do with Bruce’s ability to connect and coach up his team.

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by J.P. on Feb 21, 2012 6:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t disagree that a change was warranted. And I certainly don’t like the way brettpedigo phrased things. But I disagree that it had to be made then. As I said in the third period thread…

And when the team thinks of itself as a stanley cup contender, than replacing the winningest coach in the NHL (in the past 4 years) with an OHL coach is irresponsible. If the only elusive coaching goal is reaching conference finals or better then hiring anybody without some evidence of that specific ability is wrong.

I can’t, nor would I enjoy trying to, defend Gabby’s playoff record. And I’m not confident enough in my knowledge of Hockey to say that a coaching change wasn’t needed to go farther or win a cup. But I am saying that unless you have reasonable expectation that the new coach will do better than the guy he’s replacing, then making the change is wrong.

I kept my piece since thanksgiving because the people who supported hiring Dale Hunter are people whose opinions and expertise I trust. The man’s reputation has a lot of caché, but I haven’t seen a solid 5 game stretch of evidence that this coaching change was an improvement.

Also, I apologize for voicing an opinion like the one above after a terrible loss, in an important game.

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by Boggles on Feb 21, 2012 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I think there’s a fair argument (maybe one-sided) about whether or not Dale was the right guy to replace Bruce with, but I can’t see how Bruce could have continued as coach of this team (which is not to take a single thing away from Bruce as a coach).

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by J.P. on Feb 21, 2012 6:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely agree…if there’s one scapegoat out there, it should be George McPhee. He’s the master architect, and he’s failed…..miserably. It’s a complete and utter meltdown that he’s ultimately responsible for.

by OvechkinGR8 on Feb 21, 2012 6:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Brilliant acrostic, and if the team put in half the effort Becca did tonight…

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by J.P. on Feb 20, 2012 10:37 PM EST reply actions   4 recs

I’m guessing she could coast and till come up with that.

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by gfcaps fan on Feb 20, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

*still, not till.

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Feb 20, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

This was karmic punishment because Becca’s last game was an awesome win, wasn’t it?

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by RedBirdie on Feb 20, 2012 10:38 PM EST reply actions  

As the optimist, I’m going to say there’s always hope at the trade deadline…

by dcrothman on Feb 20, 2012 10:40 PM EST reply actions  

But GMGM’s acquisitions of late have yielded little, if anything, in return.

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by hotdog88gt on Feb 20, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

What do we know? We are not in the game.

by brazilianbeast on Feb 20, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s my hope.

It isn’t even anger-inducing. It does not seem to be worth that kind of emotional investment. It might not even be disappointing any more. It is expected.

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by macvechkin on Feb 20, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

you mean firing Hunter at the deadline?

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by smutsboy1 on Feb 21, 2012 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

(Dropped this in the other thread right before this one went live. Forgive in advance, please!)

I admit I don’t know a ton about hockey, but I have a question for which I can’t find a very good answer.

Why would GMGM hire a coach whose system didn’t fit the players he spent several years acquiring?

I mean, when the Caps fired Bruce, it was because the team had given up on him, not because his system wasn’t any good. Heck, both his systems got the team into the playoffs in pretty good shape. I had assumed that the front office believed the players they had gotten over the past four years, and the ones they picked up in the offseason to push the team over that playoff hump, would make the squad that could contend for the Cup.

So what happened?

by jimmiebjr on Feb 20, 2012 10:41 PM EST reply actions  

GMGM has been pursuing Hunter for years, apparently.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 20, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I get that.

But why, if he’s pursuing Hunter, would he go get guys like Brouwer and Ward who would end up in Hunter’s doghouse from the get-go? Why stick with Schultz, who Hunters obviously doens’t want to play? Why keep Erskine around, for the same reason?

it seems to me that by bringing in Hunter and his new system, GMGM guaranteed that the team would be rebuilding, at least on the fly, for another season and a half.

And for those players who have been with the Caps a while, and who could play in Hunter’s system, how good can it be for them that they’ve had three or four system changes in as many seasons? I’m not sure that’s normal for a successful hockey program.

by jimmiebjr on Feb 20, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

How would he know how Hunter would react to different players? Ward being this bad really couldn’t be anticipated, and Hunter disliking Schultz as much as he has couldn’t be either, unless Hunter specifically said something about that.

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by timmyv38 on Feb 20, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

The thing with both of them is that they don’t work in his system. I’m pretty sure he’s said that about both of them.

But isn’t that the sort of due diligence you do on a coach before you hire them? Like I said, I’m not an experienced hockey fan, but I would expect a GM to at least review the coach’s system to make sure it worked well with the personnel I hand-picked to make a run at the Stanley Cup.

But even if it’s not system and it’s just dislike, isn’t that also something a GM can suss out during an interview or two? GMGM brought a guy in to get the team playing well as a team. I would expect that GMGM would find a guy who would actually get along with the players he has.

Doghousing Schultz, Ward, and (for the love of all that’s holy, the hardest working guy on the team) Knuble is just nuts.

by jimmiebjr on Feb 20, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

With Ward and Schultz, it hasn’t been a system problem. Ward has just been bad, no matter what, and Schultz is doing fine whenever he plays. Johnson has said he wants Schultz to be more physical, but never that he didn’t work in the system.

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by timmyv38 on Feb 20, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually saw Schultz knock someone off the puck today and into the glass. I about fell over.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 20, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

He definitely has stepped up his physicality. I think Johnson has helped him there.

Failure is always an option.

by timmyv38 on Feb 20, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotcha. So Hunter just sat Schultz down for — what, two weeks — for no particular reason? That’s even worse.

And, sure, Ward hasn’t played well. Neither has Hamrlik, but he’s gotten a sweater pretty much every night. Don’t get why Ward doesn’t get the chance to play himself back into shape if Hamrlik does. Don’t get why Knuble gets the doghouse.

So if it’s not system, it’s just the pique of the coach, which may be even worse.

by jimmiebjr on Feb 20, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m sure he had a reason, but I can’t think of a good one. Hamrlik has actually been one of the Caps more consistent dmen for the last couple months – he turned it around after Hunter took over. Ward has had flashes of what we expected, but not consistently. As for Knuble – no idea. Hunter’s personnel choices have made no sense to me, and that has been my main reason for being critical of him.

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by timmyv38 on Feb 20, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m sorry. I don’t mean to seem difficult. I just don’t get it. I keep hearing about guys who don’t fit Hunter’s system and how guys have had to change their games greatly to fit into his system. I don’t see anyone who has gotten better with the system change, though, and that’s a real problem, I think.

by jimmiebjr on Feb 21, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Hamr has improved because he said Hunter’s system is closer to the Habs’ system. Now if he’d stop taking bad penalties…

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by oldemystix on Feb 21, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m as confused as you are, to be honest. The only player I’ve seen noticeably improve is Hamrlik, and maybe Semin – always hard to tell if that’s him or the coach. It’s hard to tell how many problems are Hunter’s system, and how many are just players still trying to adjust to it.

Failure is always an option.

by timmyv38 on Feb 21, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

After the bizarre call-ups and frustrating player decisions for some games, I’ve come to the conclusion that Hunter just doesn’t know the Caps, the Bears, or the MOs of the other NHL teams well enough to make informed roster decisions on a consistent basis.

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by oldemystix on Feb 21, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I haven’t seen much change in the Caps’ play since BB was fired.

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by hotdog88gt on Feb 20, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

The lighting Playoff sweep was too much for GMGM confidence in BB

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by BetterOffWith28 on Feb 20, 2012 10:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I agree, which leads me to ask why BB was still here when the season started.

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by timmyv38 on Feb 20, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

or why GMGM is still here now?

by drchew69 on Feb 20, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Not really. I could see him being gone after this season, but not before the season started.

Failure is always an option.

by timmyv38 on Feb 20, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I think so too

What doesnt kill you makes you stronger.

by BetterOffWith28 on Feb 20, 2012 10:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I can only speculate that Hunter needed a bit more time before committing to the caps, who knows. I was surprised too that BB started this season.

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by BetterOffWith28 on Feb 20, 2012 10:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

We’ve had 3 systems, two coaches, and one Jack Adams award.

It’s time to look at the picture we see in front of us if we’re looking to see where improvement might be found.

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by Icebat on Feb 20, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Games like this belong in one place and one place only: the trash can.

That’s a lot of cans sittin’ at the curb this year.

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by hotdog88gt on Feb 20, 2012 10:42 PM EST reply actions  

Caps had 17 shots on goal total. Canes had 16 in the first period.

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by miseenjeu on Feb 20, 2012 10:43 PM EST reply actions  

and that 17 is without normalizing for score effects! seriously though, the team is down 3 after the first and can only muster 17 shots for the game? I think mj90 had more turnovers than that!

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by cainoo7x on Feb 20, 2012 10:49 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

So awful not even getting any activity in the postgame.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 20, 2012 10:48 PM EST reply actions  

Lot of ledge- jumpers tonight, or folks avoiding recap since three periods were more than enough.

by ShootTheBullets on Feb 20, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

two periods was more than enough.

by Davide Don of Rio on Feb 20, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

blahblahblah

there! activity!

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by SuperNewb on Feb 20, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

This about sums it up...

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by timmyv38 on Feb 20, 2012 10:48 PM EST reply actions  

Realize things were bad all-round. But totally unnecessary PIM (elbow to the head) by the most veteran D man started things off terribly. Later he looked like a D-league forward with clearing attempts directly up the middle, and directly on the opposition’s tape.

by ralCapsFan on Feb 20, 2012 10:49 PM EST reply actions  

Mike Green, save for the occasional good outlet pass, was terrible tonight. Not the return we were hoping for.

by dcrothman on Feb 20, 2012 10:49 PM EST reply actions  

It has only been two games after missing a month. I’m not willing to give up on that yet, but it just shows what kind of shape your team is in when a guy that hasn’t played in over a month is going to be the one to turn things around, immediately.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 20, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

and to be honest, he hasn’t really played since Oct. 22 (when he blocked a shot with his jaw and…..sprained his ankle? WTF indeed!). He played part of one game on Nov. 11, a full game with limited minutes on Jan. 3, and then was injured on Jan. 7.

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by RedBirdie on Feb 20, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

It was funny seeing him very deep in the offensive zone so often. (I think I counted 4 or 5 times) I missed him. I think a defenseman has only been doing that once per game in his absence.

by discuit on Feb 20, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

One of the things that really stuck out to me in this game was the inability to convert corner and half wall possession into high quality scoring chances. The forwards are winning puck battles in the offensive zone, particularly against the wall; yet, there’s very little support in the middle of the ice. You can only cycle the puck along the wall for so long until the opposition is going to clog the puck up enough for them to get numbers on the puck. Bottom line, without a way to move the puck from the established perimeter to the open interior of the offensive zone, the Capitals are going to have a very difficult time scoring.

The problem is compounded by the fact that the d-men are sticking to the far points. All three forwards end up committing to working the puck around the bottom third of the zone while the D-men stay in the top third. Without anyone in the middle of the zone, Carolina can 1) afford to keep extra bodies down low 2) make clean break out passes and 3) fly the defensive zone once the puck is theirs.

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by kingzman264 on Feb 20, 2012 10:50 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Also, if all three forwards have been activated to work the cycle, there will very rarely be anyone screening the goaltender if the puck ever works it’s way up top.

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by kingzman264 on Feb 20, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

One of the things that really stuck out to me in this game was the inability to convert corner and half wall possession into high quality scoring chances. The forwards are winning puck battles in the offensive zone, particularly against the wall; yet, there’s very little support in the middle of the ice.

Finally. Appreciate an astute observation relating to the strategy/intent of the offensive play during this game (and pretty much just about a good number of others prior to tonight), it’s relation to execution or lack thereof, and the consequences which manifests itself in the ineffectiveness of generating high quality scoring chances. I’m always wondering aloud with frustration, “where the hell is the third forward or d-man?” whenever the open space in the middle of the ice is barren (i.e. lacking the presence of a Caps sweater) as the two designated forwards win the puck battles along the wall.

What should be a means to gain offensive possession in the opposing team’s d-zone in order to generate scoring quality scoring chances is rendered useless when the lack of support is there. I don’t know if whether it’s lack of communication, awareness, hockey sense or what but damn is it frustrating to watch because it’s pretty fundamental if a team is going to commit to battling along the boards aggressively for puck possession.

Very basic stuff. If one’s not directly involved in battling for puck possession, then it’s their responsibility to provide support for your teammates along the corner or half-boards by going to the open space on the ice (e.g. interior of the o-zone) so there’s an outlet to get the puck away from the perimeter. The ‘Great One’ said it concisely, himself: “I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been.”

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by Christoph J on Feb 21, 2012 12:11 AM EST up reply actions   4 recs

. I don’t know if whether it’s lack of communication, awareness, hockey sense or what but damn is it frustrating to watch because it’s pretty fundamental if a team is going to commit to battling along the boards aggressively for puck possession.

This is what leaves me wondering. Most of the games the Capitals have lost over the past few months have been marked with a lack of presence in the interior of the offensive zone. I wonder if/when/how the coaches will address this issue.

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by kingzman264 on Feb 21, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

If/when/how … those are the questions these days, no? In any case the clock is ticking fast with the trade deadline approaching. Here’s hoping we’ll see some evidence tomorrow evening the coaches have been addressing that particular issue on the offense side of things.

I’d love to see someone put together a Chalk Talk illustrating and breaking down examples in where the Caps’ offense actually generated successful quality scoring chances in the manner we’re lamenting the frequent lack thereof. There have been, though few far and between, times when (the Caps) upon gaining entry past the opposition’s blue line we’ve seen:

1) the third forward or a d-man provided interior support in the middle third of the o-zone while
2) the forechecking forwards win the puck battle along the boards resulting
3) in converting a successfully established perimeter possession into a high quality scoring chance and ideally a goal.

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by Christoph J on Feb 21, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

At some point the Caps need to explore new options for either using Marcus Johansson more effectively or sitting his butt down until he figures some stuff out.

He was brutal. Per Neil, midway through the third period:

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by breed16 on Feb 20, 2012 10:51 PM EST reply actions  

Mackan has been not very good for almost 2 full season’s now. Last year there were a lot of fans w/ rose colored glasses for whatever reason, but this year finally people seem to be letting the truth in. Losing does wonders I guess.

From last year’s absurdly bullish season wrap, where I wrote the following, and then was told I “wasn’t paying attention.”

“Not sure I understand all the high scores for mackan. He had a pretty lousy year for a 20 yr old center.”

Who knows, maybe he’ll develop into a good player one day. He ain’t one now, tho’ his speed is fun to watch.

by CarlosLA on Feb 20, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

He was fine last season, when you take into account that it was his rookie season and he was primarily 3C. The issue this season is that he’s shown no progress, and even seems to have regressed some.

Failure is always an option.

by timmyv38 on Feb 20, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s been far worse over the last month to 2 months than he’s been since early last season. There were plenty of games slightly past the midpoint last year when 90 was the best Cap on the ice, although it wasn’t saying much then.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2012 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Big recs to Becca for the acrostic alone. WTF, indeed.

by Aliceanna on Feb 20, 2012 10:51 PM EST reply actions  

Well at least Wideman and Vokoun played well to up their trade value…

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by cainoo7x on Feb 20, 2012 10:54 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

Enough of this roster tweaking

If there is any future hope, we have to be sellers at the deadline. We need to get as many picks as possible and then try to make some trades in the summer. There are huge problems with this club – it’s clearly NOT the coaching staff.

I think if Ted is serious about winning (vice selling tickets), he has got to dump GMGM. Moving forward, we might have only 2 or 3 top six forwards for next year (and that counts Backstrom and Ovechkin).

Unbelievable how the mighty have fallen.

by Dougeb on Feb 20, 2012 10:55 PM EST reply actions  

There are huge problems with this club – it’s clearly NOT the coaching staff.

Explain please.

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by Bald Pollack on Feb 20, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course, I will explain

We are no better under Hunter than BB. Ovechkin and Semin are trending down. Beyond Backstrom, who else is a superstar caliber player? Face it – this is just not a very good club. The free agents we brought in this year are dismal: Ward and Hamrlik – Please, they are awful.

by Dougeb on Feb 20, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Beyond Backstrom, who else is a superstar caliber player?

Seriously? Green, and the two Russians you mentioned who are trending down.

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by Christoph J on Feb 20, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah. That’s kind of a crazy comment, isn’t it?

The meme of Ovechkin, Green and Semin not being superstar caliber players is apparently unstoppable.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 20, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

No way that any of those guys (though in fairness to Green we have to reserve judgement) are playing up to superstar-level right now. Personality-wise, Ovechkin probably still qualifies from a marketing perspective. But in my mind, no way is he playing like one of the top wingers in the game.

by Murshawursha on Feb 21, 2012 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, you could get away with"probably" but not with “clearly not the coaching staf”f.

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by BetterOffWith28 on Feb 20, 2012 11:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

In my opinion, it’s about a lack of secondary scoring. This is something the Caps have really lacked all along. Even during their peak offensive years, the secondary scoring dried up in the playoffs. I think what the Caps need to do is model their team after teams like Boston, and Philly. These teams are getting significant secondary scoring from players on RFA contracts, which allows them the cap room to add even more offense. The Caps really aren’t getting any consistent production from anyone on a cheap contract. The young guns are all making big bucks right now, and there’s no one behind them to step up.

Going into armchair GM mode

What I’d do is trade Vokoun and Wideman to Chicago for Jeremy Morin and a 1st, and tank for the rest of the year. Ideally, we’d be able to draft Alex Galchenyuk with our pick, one of the myriad promising defensemen in the 7-12 range with the Avs pick, maybe Griffin Reinhart, and nab Martin Frk with the Hawks pick. When you add these guys to Johansson and Orlov, and with Kuznetsov coming over next year, you’ve got some great, affordable depth down the line. Of course, we’d also need to get rid of some bad contracts down teh road like Ward, Hamrlik, and Schultz, but I don’t think it’d be too difficult. Sort of the basic framework here a couple years down the road:

Ovechkin-Backstrom-Morin
Semin-Johansson-Kuznetsov
Brouwer-Laich-Frk
insert whatever 4th liners here

Green-Reinhart
Carlson-Alzner
Orlov-insert veteran depth here

Neuvirth-Holtby

…speculating about the future like this is the only way I can stay sane while the Caps are playing this poorly.

by Flash in the Pan on Feb 20, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Slotting in Johansson at 2C is a major flaw in that plan. He has done nothing to show that he can handle that, and much to show that he can’t.

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by timmyv38 on Feb 20, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I just realized I forgot to include Galchenyuk, so you can slot him there for Johansson.

by Flash in the Pan on Feb 20, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I seriously doubt Galchenyuk is ready to be a 2C in the NHL next year though.

It isn’t even anger-inducing. It does not seem to be worth that kind of emotional investment. It might not even be disappointing any more. It is expected.

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by macvechkin on Feb 20, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

This isn’t next year, this is 2-3 years down the road. I figure if I’ve waited this long (i.e. as long as I can remember), I can wait a little longer.

Next year, I think Kuznetsov and Morin would be ready to step up and make an impact, which is a nice boost in the meantime. Galchenyuk, Reinhart, and Frk will probably take a year or two to develop.

by Flash in the Pan on Feb 20, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

…meaning this team needs something decent to bridge and not be waiting on MJ or other prospects.

It isn’t even anger-inducing. It does not seem to be worth that kind of emotional investment. It might not even be disappointing any more. It is expected.

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by macvechkin on Feb 20, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Can’t Kuznetsov play center?

by Flash in the Pan on Feb 20, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know but I have to think if he could, he would be already.

I see what you meant – but we have enough of a core that it’s getting really old hearing about what a great future we have, eh?

It isn’t even anger-inducing. It does not seem to be worth that kind of emotional investment. It might not even be disappointing any more. It is expected.

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by macvechkin on Feb 20, 2012 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe. He switches between center and wing – I think it’s more likely that he’d be a wing in the NHL.

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by timmyv38 on Feb 20, 2012 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I support some trades, but I can’t support tanking.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 20, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Not so much tanking, as how this team will end up if Backstrom’s out for the rest of the year and Wideman and Vokoun are gone. Maybe finishing 6th or 7th is pushing it, but this team has the capacity to really suck as we saw tonight.

by Flash in the Pan on Feb 20, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with that comment.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 20, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

You have the right idea

More specifics than I offered, but that’s what I’m talking about - we need to realize this just isn’t a good year for our club - so cut the losses and make some wise trades, acqauire picks, etc. etc. Vokoun would look great on the Blackhawks. Semin would look good in LA. Chimera would be good in Vancouver (if they could afford him).

Not sold on Johansson just yet – think we need to acquire a 2nd line center. Don’t bank on Kuznetsov until he is signed and in Washington. (as much I hope he is going to be here)

by Dougeb on Feb 20, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I really like me some Chimmer, though. Sometimes he’s the only one that looks like he gives a rat’s ass out there.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 20, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

But yeah, Chicago would probably bend over backwards to get Koun up there.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 20, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Semin could definitely fetch a nice price on the market (maybe something line Jurco + 1st from Detroit or Toffoli + 1st from LA), but considering how he’s stepped it up under Hunter I’m starting to think he’ll be sticking around.

by Flash in the Pan on Feb 20, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Then you get days like tonight, where he’s all alone, no one covering him, between the circles and then whiff-o-rama.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 20, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

If the Caps re-sign him after this year, I’ll be pissed. He’s had plenty of chances to show that he can be a major piece of this team, and he hasn’t. I won’t be surprised if he is still here come playoff time, since I am expecting GMGM not to sell, but I don’t think the caps can afford to keep him after this season.

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by timmyv38 on Feb 20, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you have to get rid of him now while the gettin is good. The only way I’d keep him here is if he took a drastic paycut, same with Mike Green. I doubt Semin would do that. I just have a feeling that if he got another 6 mil contract, he’d be pointless for about 3 weeks.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 20, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Does anyone really think Kuznetzov will be here next year?

Why would he want to leave superstardom in Russia to head join this hot mess?

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by bigeugene on Feb 20, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t be at all surprised. I think he’s competitive enough that he’ll want to play against the best – and that means here.

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by timmyv38 on Feb 20, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Plus, if someone told me I could make a spectacular living in Russia or America, I’d know which one I’d pick.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 20, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

As an American, I’m right there with you. But I think you underestimate the level of stardom/cash that Kuzya can make playing where his home is, and I think that will play an important part in it. I’m sure it’s not easy to make a living in a foreign country no matter how much cash you’re making, and it’s not for everyone. Look at Radulov.

While I too agree Kuzya will probably come over at some point, I’m not convinced the decision isn’t necessarily as simple as you put it. Medvedev just said when he was in New York that basically they (the KHL) are going to give everything they’ve got to keep him over there too…

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by kschaeff on Feb 21, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree, but I don’t think that’s what will happen. From McPhee’s perspective

a) the Caps are still only 1 point out of a playoff spot (unbelievable)
b) the playoffs are lucky bullshit (in McPhee’s words: “one of these years, we’ll break through”)
c) no way GMGM doesn’t feel actual pressure from Ted at this point, and
d) would you feel comfortable wasting another Ovechkin season?

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by breed16 on Feb 20, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

When we talk about Ovechkin seasons as seasons when his above-all-others playing ability gives us an edge over every other team in the NHL to win the Cup… do we really include this one?

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by SuperNewb on Feb 20, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

they didn’t mind wasting ovechkin’s seasons when he was a dominant player so why would they now?

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which seasons did they waste?

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by RedBirdie on Feb 20, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

We have a minimum of 4 top-6 forwards already signed for next season – Ovie, Backstrom, Brouwer, and Laich. I think trades do need to be made, either now or in the offseason – and I would target a center for the 2nd line. I’m not sure about dumping GMGM – although he certainly hasn’t done his job as well as he should have.

But you are quite wrong on one more point – the coaching staff is definitely an issue.

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by timmyv38 on Feb 20, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Hard not find some fault with everyone associated with this team at this point.

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by cainoo7x on Feb 20, 2012 11:04 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

+1

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by BetterOffWith28 on Feb 20, 2012 11:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

How is the coaching staff an issue when the results are the same?

BB or Hunter – Hunter or BB.
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by Dougeb on Feb 20, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

How is dumping a coach midseason for one who’s done dick in the pros not an issue?

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by Bald Pollack on Feb 20, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Valid point, they changed coach w/ no NHL experience with another one. That was a bad move IMHO

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by BetterOffWith28 on Feb 20, 2012 11:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I’d even go so far as to say his experience is even immaterial. Midseason hires are going to be a bit of a fire drill as is.

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by Bald Pollack on Feb 20, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree with that. The team became totally despondent in the last few games under BB necessitating a change. Sadly, they looked the same way tonight.

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by cainoo7x on Feb 20, 2012 11:22 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

BB had become ineffective, so what’s it tell you if there’s no improvement under another coach? I’m not saying it’s totally on the coaching staff, but they’re certainly not blameless.

Failure is always an option.

by timmyv38 on Feb 20, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Is Laich really a top 6 forward at this point? He has the exact same goals and assists as Shawn Horcoff, which is a disturbing fact I noticed earlier today.

by Flash in the Pan on Feb 20, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Laich is a third line center

No, I don’t think ideally Brooks is a top six forward – he’s an ideal 3rd line center, though.
He’s still a very valuable player.

by Dougeb on Feb 20, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

If he’s used in a top-6 winger role, sure. He’s been 3C this year, playing on a defensive line, so I’d expect his points to be down.

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by timmyv38 on Feb 20, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

One can argue whether Brouwer or Laich are true top 6, but they sure as hell don’t have top 6 stats. Not that anyone on this team is having a stat year outside of Chimera.

It isn’t even anger-inducing. It does not seem to be worth that kind of emotional investment. It might not even be disappointing any more. It is expected.

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by macvechkin on Feb 20, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know about it clearly not being the coaching staff. Would be interesting to see these guys play under a more seasoned NHL head coach. I think it’s been 10 seasons since this team had a veteran coach.

Ron Wilson was the last Caps coach to have any NHL head coaching time under his belt, and he only had 4 years with the Ducks under his belt at the time. Everyone since Wilson have been rookie NHL coaches.

(Corrections, of course, are welcome)

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by hotdog88gt on Feb 20, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it weird that before I checked the rink I was thinking that the recap should be WTF was that. Well the only good thing I can take from this game is that it is over.

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by jeff550 on Feb 20, 2012 10:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

So Ovi’s limping and Laich didn’t play the last ten minutes.

Now I’m ready to panic.

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by gfcaps fan on Feb 20, 2012 11:03 PM EST reply actions  

I think we need a mutual support group at the nearest bar.

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by RedBirdie on Feb 20, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I will happily join that club.

by Aliceanna on Feb 20, 2012 11:10 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

my dear, you’re going to be the chair! The Honourable Aliceanna calls this meeting of the We Just Cannot Go On If Brooks Laich Is Injured Mutual Support Society to order!

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by RedBirdie on Feb 20, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Let me know when you meet.

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by timmyv38 on Feb 20, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I was going to suggest Caps Watchers Anonymous as the group name

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by miseenjeu on Feb 20, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Read up on the 2012 draft. It’ll ease the pain.

by Flash in the Pan on Feb 20, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Where is Spidey when we need him?!

by ralCapsFan on Feb 20, 2012 11:13 PM EST reply actions  

snowy Minneapolis.

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by RedBirdie on Feb 20, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

where one Backstrom is playing

by Rather Bengt on Feb 20, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

and we thank him greatly for that single-handed beatdown he laid upon those arrogant and entitled little fucks better known as the Boston Bruins yesterday.

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by RedBirdie on Feb 20, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah…I read…more just a plea.

by ralCapsFan on Feb 20, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

FWIW, I think he dumped out his half-full glass somewhere over the Great Lakes…

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by Becca H on Feb 20, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

took the roundabout route, did he? :)

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by RedBirdie on Feb 20, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Unfortunately, I will have died from a heart attack at the end of the third where a puck shot from center ice bounces over Vokoun’s shoulder and hits the crossbar.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 20, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

…yeah, I sadly am among the dumbest when it comes to geography. I think I should get points for knowing that the Great Lakes were near MN…right? :D

And here’s hoping. Although if I’m still writing game recaps when I’m 98 years old I’ll be a little concerned.

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by Becca H on Feb 20, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

yes, Lake Superior touches Minnesota. The greatest Great Lake!

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by RedBirdie on Feb 20, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

A hotel bar in snowy Minneapolis with a large tumbler of Grey Goose about to be replaced by a second one.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 20, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

how bad is the snow? I hate having to follow snowplows down the runway.

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by RedBirdie on Feb 20, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty bad. Lots of slush on the highway and all the cars in the parking lot are covered. Expecting 2 to 4 according to the forecast, but it looks much worse.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 20, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

glad to hear it’s not supposed to be too bad. I once flew into a historic blizzard. had no idea. started driving north on 35, roads became impassable (at night no less!), semi trucks in ditches. found a hotel and we holed up for 3 days before it stopped snowing.

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by RedBirdie on Feb 20, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Need that much to forget about this game?

Failure is always an option.

by timmyv38 on Feb 20, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

he didn’t even suffer through most of it!

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by RedBirdie on Feb 20, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe I just like to drink?

But yes, I’m massively disappointed tonight.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 20, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Sell, sell, sell.

Warning: I started watching hockey in 2007. So, yeah.

by Laich Button on Feb 20, 2012 11:19 PM EST reply actions  

Keep up the bullet points of perspective. I love reading them. And I’ll keep my leaky, half full glass as well.

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by capsyoungguns on Feb 20, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec’d

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by SuperNewb on Feb 20, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m a lot higher on 70 than 30 these days, just see more upside.

Unfortunately when a team continually lays turds like this, chances are it’s not just magically going to stop. I can totally see a win and in scenario against NYR in game 82 and puking all over themselves.

It isn’t even anger-inducing. It does not seem to be worth that kind of emotional investment. It might not even be disappointing any more. It is expected.

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by macvechkin on Feb 20, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Unfortunately, if you told me that we’d be playing in MSG where 2 points gets us in the playoffs, I’d take it. Yes, I’m risk averse, but it would be great to know we’d have a chance in game 82.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 20, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I might prefer that as to winning, getting in, and then being completely dominated by those same rangers or bruins.

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 20, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah. I’d like to get in. Expectations are so low, that getting dominated wouldn’t be a shock and the same changes would result. I can’t stomach not making the playoffs.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 20, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

The standings don’t really matter right now because the Caps aren’t going to win too many games with only one healthy, legit C in the lineup. Without a 1C, 2C and our 3C playing hurt, this team doesn’t stand a chance. They’re just going to keep losing games.

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by CapsFan2020 on Feb 20, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

What do you figure is the "new mean" for Ovechkin?

I’m thinking he should average 35 goals a year – doubt he gets close to 50 again.

by Dougeb on Feb 20, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

35 is probably a good number, but I’m holding out hope that he can hit 40 again with some regularity, or more. The guy has talent that somone needs to unlock. The guy isn’t that old.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 20, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck this gutless, bunch.
As much as I loved BB, I thought they were right to let him go. I don’t think they were right to hire DH. Love him, but didn’t think he was ready to make that jump.
I’m not a fair weather fan, but I have to disregard these clowns until they show that they give a shit. I’d rather have a low talent team that brings it every night than this.

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by Prongfan on Feb 20, 2012 11:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Olie Kolzig, is that you?

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by KillerTestudo on Feb 20, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not a fair weather fan.

Hard to see that in your post, if you are not watching the games and rooting.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 20, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I knew someone would say that. My point kind of is that this bunch has driven me to that.
The franchise has devastated me repeatedly for my 32 years as a fan, and THIS team is the one that is hurting me the most.

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by Prongfan on Feb 21, 2012 12:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm frustrated as well

I would much rather watch a bunch of rookies, playing their hearts out, than paying “way too much” for the likes of Ward and Hamrlik. I wouldn’t mind seeing several rookies next year.

by Dougeb on Feb 20, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know if this team is made to play a passive defensive system. They weren’t made to play a high-risk offensive system either. I would kill to see GM’s NHL Cralglist ad for help wanted for this team.

by chockster on Feb 21, 2012 12:12 AM EST reply actions  

Um.

Really? 5-0?

Did that just happen?

The worst part is that losing that badly doesn’t help us figure out if it’s the coaching or the players or both*.

*GMGM

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by smutsboy1 on Feb 21, 2012 12:39 AM EST reply actions  

The good news is that the Caps are 8-0 when GMGM’s true lineup has dressed this season…………..

by CapsDegenerate on Feb 21, 2012 1:02 AM EST reply actions  

MoJo rant

I have no idea why MoJo continues to get a jersey, let alone be in the top 6. What in the world has he done to show he deserves that? He is not only been our worst center, he’s been our worst player. By fancy stats or your eyeballs. He was atrocious last night. Two of the first three goals were primariy his fault.

I seriously do not understand why Eakin is in Hershey but MoJo is in the top 6. I’m not saying Eakin is an NHL 2C right now but he didn’t suck when he played this year and MoJo sucks right now.

After Schultz and Knuble were scratched, it’s boggles my mind that MoJo keeps playing.

Am I alone here?

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by Avar on Feb 21, 2012 12:57 PM EST reply actions  

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