Thursday Caps Clips: Claw'd
Your savory breakfast links:
- Recaps and other assorted musings on last night's loss from us, Caps365 video (Hunter, Caps players), Vogs, Capitals Voice, NHL.com, WaPo (gamer, blog), WashTimes (gamer, blog, blog), DCEx (blog), CSNW (blog), Peerless, RMNB, Homer McFanboy, DSP, KOL, 20-Minute Effort, and Hockey Hourly.
- Brooks Laich states the team has "bigger goals." Let's start with scoring more of them, yes? [CSNW]
- What is the value of Joel Rechlicz?
- Point. [Capitals Report (Audio)]
- Counterpoint. [RMNB, Rant Sports]
- Point. [Capitals Report (Audio)]
- The eternal and evergreen question of Alex Semin. [Puck Daddy]
- Was this meant to be a Sarge showcase? [CSNW]
- That Matt Hendricks goal (against Tampa) was pretty sweet. [PTI via Ben Raby (audio)]
- "We are Capsonymous." [RMNB]
- From the Dept. of You Can't Make this Stuff Up: The prize for a team trivia contest was - a golf club. [Dump 'n' Chase]
- Speaking of which, handicapping the Southeast Division. [WashTimes]
- Finally, John Carlson and Brooks Laich will be meeting and greeting at the Washington Auto Show tonight. [DSP]
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Caps won consecutive road games Dec 7th (5-3 at Ottawa) and 15 (1-0 at Winnipeg); since then they are 2-6-3 on road (beat Columbus and Montreal), outscored 32-23 in those 11 games. They are 4-for-32 on the PP in those games (12.5%), 29-for-38 on PK (76.3%)
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Yep. It’s why we said we’d all be dancing in the streets if they could manage a .500 road points percentage the rest of the way.
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So the past couple of games, it appears that Dale has gotten the message of “don’t give up numbers on a turnover” so ingrained that the guys seem to be afraid to bring the puck up ice and they’re constantly going backwards anytime there’s a forechecker near them.
"Money talks. I listen."
I was really disturbed last night by how easily they were conceding the zone. Not that it’s anything new, but it was glaring last night, particularly in the first few minutes of the third.
Instead of employing a neutral zone trap, which would make sense for an offensively challenged team, they sag back and give up the blue line any time the opponent has a puck.
We talk about how it’s impossible to spend time in the offensive zone if the Caps are constantly hemmed in their own end. Maybe they should stop making it so easy to get there.
by Kolzilla on Feb 2, 2012 8:10 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I was really disturbed last night by how easily they were conceding the zone.
This was if not the biggest then certainly one of the biggest problems in the final weeks of the Boudreau regime. If it’s a conscious strategic plan, it’s terrible; if it’s old habits dying hard, they aren’t.
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In last night’s recap, Kareem brought up the following in one of his bullet points: “Caps have scored power play goals in two of the past 11 games”.
Any chance, we can hire Marek Zidlicky as a PP consultant to Hunter? According to Russo’s story the other day, he’s full of free, unsolicited ideas and suggestions.
I’d bring him in after I bring in Hardy Astrom as Neuvirth’s goaltender coach.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 7:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What has happened to Neuvy, I wonder? Last year, he was the #1 goalie on a team that finished first in the regular season. And now he’s the backup for a playoff bubble team and is not playing well at all.
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Sometimes it happens. See Carlson, John.
But he’s also not playing as much as he played last year so maybe it’s a rhythm issue. And goalies can be notoriously flaky.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 7:52 AM EST up reply actions
Since Christmas he has had barely 200 minutes worth of game action — a little more than three games worth over five appearances. Hard to establish a rhythm. The thing that will suffer is precisely what happened last night. It isn’t that he plays poorly with that little work, but that there is going to be a greater tendency to have a few moments when focus isn’t what it should be if he (or any goalie) is getting regular work. And those two times it wandered — both Samuelsson goals — it cost him. He got caught cheating on one, but it was the second goal that was for me more of a problem. Brooks Laich whiffed on the shot-block attempt, but if Neuvirth is getting more regular work, I don’t think he is so slow to close the holes to keep the puck from skittering through. Last year, he makes that save. Right now, he doesn’t. And the Caps’ offense provides no margin of error for a goalie in Neuvirth’s position to be able to afford any lapses in focus. It’s a no-win situation.
In more ways than one.
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by ThePeerless on Feb 2, 2012 7:54 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
He was the backup coming into this season and probably would be unless he vastly outplayed Vokoun. The only real question here is what’s up with his play… and he’s got a 2.20 GAA and .922 SV% over his last eight starts (but is just 3-3-2). Of course, those eight starts span 48 days, and over his last four starts, those numbers balloon to 3.125/.900 (in 37 days) and his last two starts are 3.47/.891.
I’d put most of it on an inability to stay focused given an inconsistent workload, but I’m not too worried about him.
Either that, or lack of a goalie coach (kidding).
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(Or what YLM and Peerless said.)
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I think we’re all in agreement the problem involves the rhythm method.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 8:06 AM EST up reply actions
Actually… it might be a bit of narrative.
In regular season games in which he’s had three days or fewer off between starts, Neuvy’s 31-13-6/.256/.912.
When he’s had four or more days off, he’s 12-11-1/2.71/.908, and if we eliminate first starts of the season (there goes the 182-day break he had before his first start this year!), that number drops to 10-9-1/2.70/.908.
There’s a difference there, but not as big as one might expect (and I can slice and dice the splits if you’d like me to look at different ones). Plus, there’s the whole chicken-or-egg of “when he’s playing well, he gets more starts and when he gets more starts, he plays well” going on.
But yes. Rhythym method.
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The problem in utilizing the Rhythm Method with a goalie is that it isn’t foolproof and in 8 months or so, the goalie’s numbers may likely be ready to drop.
by Rather Bengt on Feb 2, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Just pull him out if you think there’s a problem. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. Give him the start and pull out when thinks look like they might get messy.
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by Rob Parker on Feb 2, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
But things can get pretty messy if you pull him out as well.
by Dirk Dangler on Feb 2, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
To not get too rusty, I’ve felt goalies should get a start every 4-5 games. The 4-5 game mark also seems to be the time that the goalie carrying the load has a bad game. Specifically regarding Neuvy, since he is as much a developing goalie withthe potential to be #1, he should be played with more regularity or his development could suffer a setback.
Has he had consecutive starts this year? Since Hunter?
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he had two game in a row under Bruce, 11/17 and 11/19 (looks like he got pulled from the 11/19 game? Or came in in relief, not quite sure). Under Hunter, he played 12/3 and 12/5. On 12/13, he relieved Vokoun in the disaster of a game vs. Philly and then started a significant stretch of game vs. WPG, COL, NSH, NJD and BUF. He was pulled in the Buffalo game on 12/26 and didn’t play again until 1/9
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He started six-straight in December, and back-to-backs earlier in the month (all under Hunter, obv.).
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Sorry, five straight in December.
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In those five-straight starts, btw, he went 2-2-1/2.11/.917. Of course, again it’s chicken-or-egg – was he playing well because he was starting or vice versa?
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2.11 and .917 and only two wins? Ouch.
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Had 1 goal scored by the Caps in 3 of those games – 1 of which was a win.
Failure is always an option.
ah, yes, the hair-pulling-out and screaming put-the-puck-on-net-you-idiots! phase of the season.
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You mean the current phase?
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 2, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
they’re somewhat reliably up to 2 goals a game, which means I’m marginally less pissed off. Now I just scream, no more hair pulling.
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If the problem is rhythm, and playing a bit more is the answer, is this another point in questioning Hunters player management? We have Shultz stapled to the bench, the odd Rechlicz call up where he sees practically no ice, etc..
Maybe, but it’s not as simple as that since Vokoun has been very good.
If you sit Erskine and play Schultz, the likelihood of that costing you anything is very slim.
If you sit Vokoun and play Neuvy… far more likely it could cost you two points. Of course, it could gain you two points, but it’s a higher-risk move.
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The RMNB post summed up my thoughts on Rechlicz. DJ King was all the evidence we needed that a guy whose only real skill was fighting had no place among the roster. You don’t win by fighting; you win by out scoring the opponent. For a team in dire need of the latter, bringing on a player who has no ability to contribute to that is mind-boggling.
If the idea was deterrence, the message the Caps should have sent long ago was one of a singular team strategy to limit people like Downie. If Downie had thrown a cheap shot at someone, the deed is done. If Rechlicz steps out looking for Downie as a consequence, how does that deter Downie if he knows he can still throw cheap shots and take his lumps from one guy? Downie isn’t stupid. He can avoid Rechlicz if he wants. And he knows Rechlicz is not very skilled and won’t play much. But with a team strategy on protecting teammates, guys like Downie can’t avoid everyone. They will answer for their shenanigans with every hit from every player. That is how you deter people like Downie.
by jopierce on Feb 2, 2012 7:46 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
It is puzzling. They bring up a guy of limited skills to skate a couple of shifts a game on a team screaming for some more offensive punch. Meanwhile, there at Hershey is Keith Aucoin (and his annualized $525K cap hit) leading the AHL in points. Aucoin is not a permanent solution for any problem this club has, but given that the Caps can’t find the back of the net with a map, a flashlight, and a neon sign over the goal blinking “SHOOT IT HERE,” is Joel Rechlicz really worth more to this club at the moment — stapled as he is to the bench — than Aucoin might be?
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If I had any frustration, it may be towards this vein. What Rechlicz does when he’s here I don’t care about, but it seems like if the recall itself is becoming one of an increasing number of exhibits towards odd asset management.
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I’ve always thought that Aucoin is a marginal NHL player, but that makes him a kind of NHL player.
Aucoin is better than Perreault at the AHL. Why do people believe he wouldn’t be better than Perreault at the NHL level?
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by Gould Old Days on Feb 2, 2012 8:35 AM EST up reply actions
8 and 18 in 75 career games, including 1 and 4 in a 9 game stint in 2009-2010 for the Caps. I don’t think he’s gotten an extend chance to play in the NHL by which we can judge that he’s not better than Matty P.
That much said, Matty. P is 19-18 in 87 career games, but he’s gotten 31 this season and 35 last season. However,, Aucoin has only played 22 NHL games in the last three seasons for Aucoin.
The primary difference is age. Aucoin is 32, Matty P. is 24.
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The primary difference, in reality, is the nature of the asset – Perreault is a young player with upside, Aucoin is a career AAAA player. The on-ice differences may be marginal, but there’s more to it than that (including that Perreault isn’t waiver-exempt).
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Agreed. I don’t think I’d swap 85 for 20, but, if I’m bringing up 36 and 54, I might find a spot for 20 for a few games to see if there’s lightning in a bottle.
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They could recreate the Wizard of Oz with Perreault, Eakin and Aucoin as munchkins, Semin as the Tin Man (no heart), … I should stop here.
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Well the Scarecrow and Cowardly Lion may also apply to Semin at times…
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by Killer_Carlson on Feb 2, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
20 has a spot in the lineup, every night.
Also, Aucoin’s waiver status is a big reason he hasn’t gotten more NHL time.
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I’ve always viewed it in large part due to his age; if Aucoin was a prospect at the time Perreault was, he would have been given more of an opportunity. Aucoin had the misfortune of turning pro in 2001 (pre-lockout). He has had bursts where he has contributed at the NHL level and I do think his skill and energy could be of value for a team in this situation.
As to Peerless’ comment which started this thread, I agree; I’ve said it pretty recently on here. Call-up Aucoin for some energy and hope for some scoring. Or call up Potulny over Rechlicz.
Agreed on all counts, though ultimately I don’t think it makes much of a difference (as noted below, given Hunter’s deployments).
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You give Keith Aucoin the same playing time with the same players as Perreault has been gifted, and I’m convinced he would produce more. 26 points in 75 games is pretty good, by my way of thinking, given what Aucoin has been asked to do when he’s been brought up to the NHL, and how much playing time he’s had to do it in.
Granted, we didn’t know that when Perreault started getting those plum NHL assignments. But today we know that Perreault simply doesn’t have what it takes to produce in the NHL at any kind of consistent level. It’s not wrong to give your prospects enough playing time to assess them. And it’s not crazy now to keep playing Perreault, because the difference in their skill levels isn’t that great, and you might convince another GM to bite on a trade for Perreault’s “potential.”
But now we know better. A Caps team with either of those players getting regular ice time isn’t going to be all that great. I stand by what I said. I believe Keith Aucoin would be better than Mathieu Perreault in almost any NHL role. And really, you don’t want either of them on the team.
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by Gould Old Days on Feb 2, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions
In 07-08 Aucoin played 38 games for CAR. He had 13 points. He led the team in Corsi On and Corsi REL but played extremely easy competition. His PDO was 983 (pulled down by on-ice Sh% not Sv%).
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I hope he proves me right…
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by Gould Old Days on Feb 3, 2012 2:40 AM EST up reply actions
I actually tend to disagree. I’m with you, in general, but the way Hunter has deployed his fourth line, I don’t think it matters much at all – if Dale wants a fighter, give him a fighter, because the opportunity cost is, what, six minutes a night of Jay Beagle? Beagle doesn’t kill penalties, doesn’t fight, doesn’t score, and doesn’t get ice time.
If the Caps had a better fourth-line option and/or the coach used the fourth-line more (chicken-or-egg, perhaps), I’d probably be more worked up over Rechlicz. But they don’t and he doesn’t, so I’m not. I’m far more worked up over Joel Ward…
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I think i’d like to bestow the nickname of “The Albatross” on Ward.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 8:07 AM EST up reply actions
If we had a coach who could manage Ward correctly I don’t think it would be such a big issue. As it stands, Hunter doesn’t seem to buy into his defensive abilities and as such doesn’t maximize Ward’s value.
What’s really mind-boggling to me is rolling only three lines on back-to-back nights.
Say, how’s Bob Hartley doing in Switzerland?
Ward was brought here to play in a different system. It’s certainly possible that his positive attributes don’t translate as well to the new one. Lord knows he wouldn’t be the only player of whom that seems true.
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Just wait til they make the playoffs, thats y they got him right??? BLEH!
by Obi wan Knuble on Feb 2, 2012 8:29 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
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Further to the point on Ward, here’s his 5v5 chart from last year:
That’s some epic puck possession and movement. By contrast, here’s MJ90:
For those of you who don’t follow, Ward got tough (defensive) zone starts (the green line) and saw more shots going in his teams favor than MoJo did, and MoJo got easy (offensive) zone starts.
Is Dale’s system conducive to Ward’s strengths, namely board play and forechecking? Nyet.
There’s an assumption that Ward is a great PKer (b/c, hell, he ought to be if they’re paying him that kind of coin and he doesn’t score). But that wasn’t necessarily the case in NSH (look at the advanced metrics or simply where he ranked in SH TOI under Trotz).
Bottom line on Ward (and this isn’t to absolve the player of responsibility at all for subpar performance), the Caps aren’t using him well or enough… but given the current system, I’m not sure how much the former could change.
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How is Hunter’s system not conducive to board play and forechecking? Forechecking is inapplicable because you have to have the puck in the offensive zone, but board play should be important in a coin flip contest.
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Well, it’s exactly that – forecheck is inapplicable because they’re going for changes every time the clear the D-zone because they are getting worked there, and since they’re just dumping and changing, there just aren’t as many O-zone board battles as you’d like. Definitely tons in the D-zone, though, and I’m not sure how he’s doing on those (though his Corsi Rel QoC is actually pretty good).
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I think if the breakout wasn’t a travesty then he may have an opportunity to forecheck. I don’t think forechecking is inapplicable because Hunter’s system doesn’t call for it, it’s inapplicable because this team is terrible at gaining and maintaining possession. I guess that comes down to Hunter’s system to a degree, but I’m almost positive both Hunter and Johnson would say that what we are seeing now is not how their system is designed to work.
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by Rob Parker on Feb 2, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Obviously I agree on all counts – it’s the foundation of that post we ran a ways back about how a forecheck starts in the back end (this isn’t the Sasha Grey thread, is it?).
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by J.P. on Feb 2, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Thing is, I don’t really know what Hunter’s system is, offensively speaking.
by Kolzilla on Feb 2, 2012 8:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Also known as the “Two Hours Post-Mexican Food” system.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 8:43 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Is this where someone makes the joke that it sure is offensive?
The team seemed to have it’s moments last night, but I hate it when I start yelling, “SHOOT!” at the television. Or expletives.
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One brutal MoJo over-pass comes to mind.
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That was mortifying.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 9:00 AM EST up reply actions
Given how Hunter has been doling out ice time I’m convinced it doesn’t matter who is playing on the 4th line or in the 3rd D pairing.
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That’s more or less the point I’m getting at. It could be Joel Rechlicz or Billy Joel and it wouldn’t impact this team’s ability to win games on a nightly basis.
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It could be Sasha Grey and it wouldn’t make a difference.
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eh, Sasha Grey could be a great distractor!
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I knew I shouldn’t have, but I finally did the old google since I didn’t recognize the name. The detail under the wiki link was sufficient, I didn’t have to click on anything.
And I thought this was a family website…. ;)
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
Yea. Me too.
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by fat_daddyo on Feb 2, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
#fancysplats
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by Cap-O-Vens on Feb 2, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I only knew her because of Entourage
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Entourage taught me who Sasha Grey was. HBO can be so educational.
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by capsyoungguns on Feb 2, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t get out much….
Actually, I just don’t watch much television.
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Heh!
Some TV is really educational and worthwhile.
For example, HBO’s Deadwood taught me some really creative swear words that have come handy this season.
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by capsyoungguns on Feb 2, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
Well if the team didn’t blow before…
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 2, 2012 8:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If Mike Green’s groin was strained before…
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by Rob Parker on Feb 2, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I would think risk of injury would be too high since she’d probably be adverse to wearing a visor.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions
Hey, all I want is to see the Caps dominate their opponents…
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They won’t improve the power play until they start going backdoor.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
But what about the team’s conscious effort to eliminate 2- and 3-on-1’s?
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I don’t know. But it’s going to be a problem if they can’t stop their opponents from erupting at inopportune times. That’s not good for anybody.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 9:11 AM EST up reply actions
Sasha-MP85-Sasha
She would bring a great net presence to that line, she isnt afraid to take a Semin Shot anywhere on her body.
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by Cap-O-Vens on Feb 2, 2012 9:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
They would probably dominate more opponents.
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Ugh. I didn’t see this was already done. I have shame.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 9:12 AM EST up reply actions
Good backchecker, not afraid of defensive zone starts, willing to stick her nose in high traffic areas and willing to block shots with her face. Perfect.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Feb 2, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
…I think you just described Quintin Laing…
by Murshawursha on Feb 2, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
This team has a big enough problem with sloppy exits as it as.
by Twenty Seven Ninety on Feb 2, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
Life is a cabaret…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 2, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
I agree with everything you wrote. The only thing that makes sense is that they were expecting trouble from Downie.
The coaching staff needs to catch a few more Hershey games. I get the feeling they aren’t familiar with those players at all (no longer certain they know the strengths of some of the Caps players either).
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Don’t know if people saw this, but former Nat “Tony Plush” was on skates at Sharks practice yesterday.
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Still don’t know why the Caps never invited him while he was here.
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He’s kind of crazy? No idea other than that.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 9:19 AM EST up reply actions
the first year he was here be broke his hand prior the Caps training camp, and the Nats sent him home to California to heal. When he came back to DC the following spring, Caps are in the middle of the playoffs. By the time the Caps were back on the ice in the fall, Morgan was clearly persona non grata with the Nationals and was back in California the moment the baseball season was over.
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Kind of crazy? That’s like saying that the sky is kind of blue, or the Titanic kind of had a problem with the iceberg.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 2, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
Brooks Laich states the team has “bigger goals.” Let’s start with scoring more of them, yes? [CSNW]
If that’s the problem, then that’s truly inexcusable. The team needs to go back to using standard-sized goals behind their goaltenders.
Hey, atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Feb 2, 2012 8:36 AM EST reply actions 10 recs
Agreed. No wonder their goalies have had so much trouble. On a regulation net, no way that first Samuelsson goal beats Neuvy.
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On the All Star Skills mini nets, though? All bets are off.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 8:45 AM EST up reply actions
Neuvy blew it on that one for sure, but I have to admire that shot. Seemed to be on a rope about 1 foot off the ice for almost 90 feet and perfectly off the post. Neuvy was leaning for sure, but he had an angle. One half inch to the left and that’s just a loud “holy shit that was close”. Then again, if my uncle had balls…blah blah blah.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
Yeah, pretty unreal shot, especially since it was essentially no-look.
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Ladies and gentelmen of the jury, exhibit A in “why shooting percentage is fraught with luck.”
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by Rob Parker on Feb 2, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Then again, if my uncle had balls
Wouldn’t he still be your uncle? Or was your uncle a eunuch?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 8:48 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Maybe his uncle is Phil Kessel… (yeah I know, we overdid this at the All Star Break, but it’s worth it…)
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 2, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
I was at the Preds-Wild game Monday night, and the Preds won the game with 20 seconds left on a harmess fling by Mike Fisher from the boards to Harding’s left. It looked like a simple stick save off to the far corner, but it eluded Harding because a) it was screened, b) it was unexpected and c) it was well-placed.
The similarity between Fisher and Samuelsson is that they both shot the puck on net.
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The primary positive coming away from last night’s loss is that they remain deep in the battle for a playoff spot – meaning, “Geez, at least we’re not the Canes or Islanders.”
Even for the most ardent rose-colored-glass-wearing optimist like me, it’s clear this team has major issues. The line-up without 19 and 52 doesn’t scare anybody. Players are having subpar personal seasons (74, 42). The player management appears to be haphazard (36, 54). Even our goalie couldn’t stop an 88 foot shot last night.
As many optimists do when faced with evidence that their optimism is misplaced, I’ve started avoiding the obvious negativity, at least on the margin. I’m reading less about the team and expecting less so as not to be disappointed. I haven’t felt like this since 2006.
Now that I’ve written this, the darn team is going to go back to Montreal and kick some ass next game. My heart isn’t going to last.
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by STLSpidey on Feb 2, 2012 8:46 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
As far as my outset goes, I’m trying to stay positive, but it’s been so tough this year. I just keep thinking of how Philly qualified in 10. All they’ve gotta do is make the playoffs, and then who knows what will happen.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 8:49 AM EST up reply actions
I’m still confident that the Caps will make the playoffs. I’m also still confident that they won’t go anywhere in the playoffs. So essentially nothing about my expectations has changed from when the Caps opened up training camp with BB still behind the bench.
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by Killer_Carlson on Feb 2, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
So you’re not disappointed!
Of course, setting expectations where they were was a disappointment unto itself.
But they’re meeting expectations!
Of course, you had none…
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But the Caps golfing outing comes with a free frozen yogurt!
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by Killer_Carlson on Feb 2, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Finally, John Carlson and Brooks Laich will be meeting and greeting at the Washington Auto Show tonight
Question, how many “hey can you change my tires” comments will it take for Brooks to tell someone to go fuck off?
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
They’ll get just to the word “change” before he delivers an elbow.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 8:54 AM EST up reply actions
Just make sure it’s to the back of the head and he doesn’t leave his feet.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
Is a trip to the Auto show their reward for scoring last night?
Jimmy steps in to lead off the bottom half of the inning... with nobody on base... It could happen... just not tonight.
I hope they don’t get rewards for scoring last night. They still sucked most of the night for the most part. More so Carlson, but still.
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Laich played very well last night. He’s trying to step up into the void that Backstrom and Ovechkin being out has brought on. That said, he’s not Backstrom or Ovechkin, so he’s not going to completely replace them.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 2, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
Brooks will chuckle at all of them… then use the built up anger to deliver a crushing, but legal, check to Rene Bourque on Saturday afternoon. In my visualization of the game, anyway…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 2, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
I have been searching for some sort of positive from the Caps lately because, well, it’s been painful to watch them. I haven’t been looking at fancy stats or any advanced metrics beyond Shots, Goals and Scoring Chances, this is basically just based on simply watching the games. What I finally settled on is that we are watching Hunter learning on the job about what it takes to coach in the NHL. He had a wildly successful run in London and tried to bring that up here and it clearly was not good (outshot, out chanced,). The past few games, starting with Boston, I think he’s made some adjustments. More hitting, more shots and mostly more goals, but the results were a painful 1-1-1. However if not for 2 leaky goals last night and a post kicking Halpern’s shot out unlike it guiding it in like with Samuelsson’s we are talking about the Caps playing better today.
Do I think Hunter can be a successful NHL coach? Yes. Should he be learning on the job with a team that was favorites before the season? Debatable. Will he figure it out this year before the season is lost? fuck if I know.
I have been searching for some sort of positive from the Caps lately because, well, it’s been painful to watch them.
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If it’s as sunny an outlook as your “good morning!” post, well I don’t know if I can take that many unicorns and rainbows in one day.
Nope. Bonafide optimistic post. Not a single shred of negativity or wicked pixels.
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But did you write it before last night?
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
No. Wrote it in early December, but then a player stopped co-operating and it wasn’t relevant again until now.
Full circle!
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err, I mean yes, I did write it before last night.
Is anything I am writing making sense today?
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Here's a Positive for the Caps
Southeast Division Wins:
Washington: 26
Florida: 23
Winnipeg: 23
Tampa Bay: 22
Carolina: 18
The only reason Florida is ahead in the division is that they lead the league in OT losses with 11.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 2, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
Only reason? How about the Panthers have taken 4 of 6 points from the Caps and the Caps have taken 2 of 6. I’m not a math major, but if you flip those I think the standings might move a little.
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by Rob Parker on Feb 2, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The only reason Florida is ahead in the division is that they have more points than the other four teams.
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by J.P. on Feb 2, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And they get those points thanks to the oddity that is a three point game…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 2, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
Why/how is it an oddity? It’s the scoring system the League has set up (for every team) and teams adjust accordingly.
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And even with all that stuff, the Caps had first place on the line last night. Win and nobody is talking about FLA’s loser points giving them the division lead.
Please, call me F&B.
I despise the loser point
despise.
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Feb 2, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Sure, but it’s not the boogeyman. Same as my take on Varly and the goalie coach yesterday, Caps (fans) need to look in the mirror before blaming the loser point.
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i'm not just talking this year specifically.
it makes no g-d sense. if an overtime game awards three points, so should a regulation game. it has always and will always bother me. until I rule the world. this is one of the first half-dozen things I correct when I take over.
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Feb 2, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I agree (and so does J.P.). I just keep my feelings on the loser point separate from the discussion about why the Caps are trailing the Florida Panthers this year.
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that one's easy
the Caps are trailing the Panthers because they haven’t played very well :-)
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Feb 2, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed. But as long as them’s the rules, everyone’s gotta play by ’em.
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True… the boogeyman is that guy standing next to Keith Jones between periods on NBCSN…
Oh wait, that’s just MIlbury…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 2, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Good morning!
Since taking over, Hunter’s team has been outshot and outchanced in 22 of their 28 contests and is seeing just 44.5 percent of all shots go in their favor. That would be one of the worst since the lockout ended if it holds. It is not much better if we look at full season = 47.4% which would be in the Top 25 worst post-lockout.
Of the top-25 worst shot percentages (Shots-for as a percentage of all shots) since lockout, 20 didn’t qualify for the playoffs and four of the five that did were bounced in the first round. Only Montreal (2009-10 — DAGGER!) had playoff success, making it to the conference finals where they lost to the Philadelphia Flyers.
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Keys to playoff success
1) Pray Vokoun gets hot
2) ???
by Kolzilla on Feb 2, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
FTFY
Keys to playoffsuccessappearance
1) Pray Vokoun gets hot
2) ???
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by Cap-O-Vens on Feb 2, 2012 9:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
3) Profit
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by J.P. on Feb 2, 2012 9:04 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
At least for two games.
Once you take the fisting element out, it's not romantic anymore.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 2, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Sometimes number 1 is all it takes. Something we know all too well. I’m clinging to the fact that this team has the potential to play winning playoff hockey.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
I despise the phrase "playoff hockey"
despise.
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Feb 2, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Better than “golf in April”. Are you suggesting there is no such thing as “playoff hockey” vs “regular season hockey”?
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by dcsportsfan1 on Feb 2, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
I think “playoff officiating” describes it better most seasons, but this season I don’t think we will see much of a difference.
You’re the boss, applesauce.
It’s not just officiating. Games are tighter checking and mistakes are magnified.
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The officials not calling blatant interferences aren’t helping though. And there’s a lot of uncalled holds.
Failure is always an option.
I think BtN did a post a while back that looked at the PIM in regular and post-season and that it wasn’t as big as is popularly assumed. Or I’m just mis-remembering.
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PPs went up slightly in the playoffs (don’t remember if this was per 6 or not). Basically, even.
I wouldn’t be surprised, though, if referees let more stuff go, but since players are trying harder, they’re actually taking more regular season penalties, and that’s why there’s not much of a difference.
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by red army line on Feb 2, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
That’s some good insight, RAL. Basically you have more guys hooking and holding for the advantage, but the refs let the more borderline calls go and only call the egregious ones.
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And of course, that is really hard to quantify with out coding each foul and non-foul / call and non-call.
I think you gotta go with your lying eyes on this one. This season has looked more clutchy-grabby as far as non-calls go. It looks very playoff-like to me.
I'll have the milksteak, over hard
I’m with you. I always thought that BtN stat was odd, but I really think RAL clarifies it.
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Something that I have seen a number of people on here note is how rarely interference is being called this season. You have plays like MP getting checked in open ice 30 feet from the puck against Tampa, or one earlier in the season where Chimera dumped it in and got leveled at the blue line when the puck was at the goal line.
Failure is always an option.
it’s not just the obstruction. This season, I feel like unless you knock a guy’s head off and/or make him bleed, they’re not going to make the call.
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Unless you make the guy’s knees buckle when you elbow him in the back of the head.
Failure is always an option.
“Z, next time, if you’re going to knock a guy in the head, be a little more subtle about it, okay? I’m gonna let you off this time, because, really, who the hell is Matt Hendricks? A nobody. but next time, at least pretend like it’s an accident, okay?”
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by RedBirdie on Feb 2, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It is infuriating to watch, isn’t it? So much of that emphasis on speed and skill that came out of the lockout is gone. And the reason is, it was gone the first time the playoffs came around.
I'll have the milksteak, over hard
Although taking out the speed and skill plays right into the Caps’ hands.
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by Rob Parker on Feb 2, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
this season.
no I’m not bitter at all about the last few playoff season. not at all, why do you ask? Oh, this? No, this is just my crown. Why, yes, it’s made of tinfoil.
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(don’t remember if this was per 60 or not)
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by red army line on Feb 2, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
curious, is there a way for me to look up how many PIMs are doled out each season, league-wide?
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Playoff hockey is different from regular season hockey.
In Regular Season Hockey, you get the snake on the ground by the neck and hold it down until it passes out from lack of oxygen.
In Playoff Hockey, you get the snake on the ground by the neck, then grab a largish rock and bash its skull in.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 2, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
In Caps Playoff Hockey, you get the snake on the ground by the neck and hold it down until it passes out from lack of oxygen. Then you let go and turn around. The snake then wakes up and bites you in the ass.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Feb 2, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This year I vote we let Dima make slap shots at it.
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He misses by 10 feet and the Caps still get bitten in the ass.
by Dirk Dangler on Feb 2, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Did we ever finish Buccigross’ list?
Sid’s 1, Malkin’s 3, Ovi gets 8, and he cues up the “Ovi is fat!” meme as a bonus:
Maybe the offseason Happy Meal runs need to end
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 8:57 AM EST reply actions
@LadyHatTrick: I adore you, but I have to agree with @CapsExaminer here: Backstrom at #94 under Fisher post-Cup run Senators is questionable.
Buccigross: With a seven game playoff series on the line, which was the basic premise of this Top 100, Backstrom would be about my 20th pick at center. Considering the five other positions on a team, his spot seems about right to me.
Emphasis mine. Still don’t think you take 93 players before a healthy Backstrom, let alone 19 other centers.
That being said, there are plenty of people that wouldn’t take 24 other players ahead of Tavares…..
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That list got more and more awful, Backstrom is of course the most ridiculous but Tavares not in the top 15 is silly. Hell, not in the top 10 is kind of silly too.
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by sydtron on Feb 2, 2012 9:19 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Backstrom is of course the most ridiculous but Tavares not in the top 15 is silly. Hell, not in the top 10 is kind of silly too.
Awkward….
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by NGreenberg on Feb 2, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
With a seven game playoff series on the line, which was the basic premise of this Top 100,
Oh, I am going to have so much fun with that one. The boys are working on something that shows Sid is not and has not been nearly as clutch as the prevailing narrative suggests, especially when compared to Ovechkin (at least Ovechkin 1.0).
If you've read this far...seek help.
Had 43 even-strength goals in ‘07-08. He has 37 in his past 126 games. Let’s hope the train returns soon.
:( Wow.
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by red army line on Feb 2, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Shultz: G:0, A:0, P:0, +/-:0, PIM:0, S:0
That’s pretty much the definition of invisible.
Capitals goal scored by #22, Mike...
Would have been nice to see another 10 minutes of that as well.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 2, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It’s the definition of a good night for Schultzie.
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Half a good night. It used to be about 20 minutes…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 2, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
That’s what she said.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Michal Neuvirth may have just gotten his last start in February. He obviously wasn’t as good as he needed to be, but why does he have the pull out couch in the dog house?
In 2006-07 Neuvirth was on an over-matched Plymouth Whalers team. He got hot in the playoffs and took his team to the Memorial Cup. In the OHL Semifinals the Whalers ran into a loaded team. A team with future stars Patrick Kane, Sergei Kostitsyn, Sam Gagner, and Steve Mason. Neuvirth’s bunch of upstarts won the series 4-1.
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Is Coach gonna give Vokes the net in back-to-back morning/afternoon games this weekend?
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I wouldn’t be surprised. If he gets Montreal (which there’s no reason he wouldn’t) and the Caps win, how is he going to put Neuvy in against Boston?
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Because the BOS game begins in less than a day’s time after the MTL game ends?
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Vokoun’s not getting every single start for the rest of the season; second game of a back-to-back is as good a time as any to get Neuvirth his starts.
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Does Neuvy really deserve it though? He hasn’t looked great.
I’d rather let TV play if he feels ready to go.
by Gin and Tonic on Feb 2, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
Of course. But coming out of a long break, I’m sure Vokoun could’ve played last night (in front of family and friends, no less).
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I’m not entirely sure why he isn’t getting more playing time. Yes, Vokoun is finally playing to the level he should have been at the entire season, but it doesn’t mean Neuvy should sit so much. I much preferred a more balanced approach, though I didn’t like BB’s win and you’re in approach, but more of a balance would be nice.
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The margin for error at this point is paper-thin. The question for each game for Hunter is, “Which guy gives me the best chance to win tonight?” When is that answer “Neuvirth”?
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Apparently. Or maybe it was the back-to-backs.
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Yeah, that’s more likely. Too bad Hunter didn’t have the option to swap the starts.
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Personally, I’d have been a little miffed if he’d have started Neuvy in the more winnable game right out of the break. I’d have started Vokoun in both.
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So should the conversation be “bring Holtby up and package Neuvy with Schultz for a strong 2C”?
"He leaves every ounce of energy that he has on the ice and works very hard at it, and he wants to be the best and he wants to win, If you don’t follow that, you’ve got something wrong with you."
And then where are you when Vokoun walks this summer?
I mean, if The 2C Solution was available for Neuvy and Schultz, I’d pull the trigger in a second. But I don’t see that happening.
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You worry about that this summer? I think the objective should be to get and go far in the 2012 playoffs, right?
"He leaves every ounce of energy that he has on the ice and works very hard at it, and he wants to be the best and he wants to win, If you don’t follow that, you’ve got something wrong with you."
Yeah, sure. But at some point you have to be realistic about your chances to achieve your object in that time frame. I won’t be a millionaire by May, but if I play my cards right maybe someday I can be.
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by Rob Parker on Feb 2, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Are were there yet?
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by J.P. on Feb 2, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Perfection.
"He leaves every ounce of energy that he has on the ice and works very hard at it, and he wants to be the best and he wants to win, If you don’t follow that, you’ve got something wrong with you."
by nogoodtrying on Feb 2, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
I think that you can both maintain the obvious short-term goal with the long-term thought of the organization, and needlessly thinning out the organizational depth to (presumably) get a similar postseason result shoots yourself in the foot.
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So they should mortgage the future to try to sneak into the playoffs and get waxed?
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by J.P. on Feb 2, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Haha yeah I get that. Maybe I’m in denial, but I feel like with a healthy Green, a healthy Backstrom, and a good Ovi, this team can still be a major threat in the playoffs.
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What would you say if GMGM traded Semin to a contender for some high level assets at the deadline?
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 2, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Well fucking done.
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by Rob Parker on Feb 2, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
how bout if Sasha scored the cup clincher for said contender while we miss post season…
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kinda just comes with being a Caps fan, doesn’t it?
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I’d live with it. He was never going to score the Cup clincher on this team regardless.
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If you put Semin on a cup contending team my guess is that he would very very well.
If you expect him to drive play and make others better then you will be disappointed. Unfortunately for the Caps when you pay a guy $6.7 a year that’s what you need him to do.
Yeah, that’s what you have to do. I’d submit that he has in fact been on Cup contending teams and not been good enough.
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I’d want to know what sort of compromising photos GMGM has of the other team’s GM.
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by J.P. on Feb 2, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
“Vengeance is mine,” quoth Alvis. Then he shot that guy right in the freaking face!
Once you take the fisting element out, it's not romantic anymore.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 2, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
No – this team can’t accomplish that. At the trade deadline, the Caps need to be looking at next season.
Failure is always an option.
DH seems to hew pretty closely to a “screw up and you’re out” policy. And Neuvy let in two bad goals last night, soooooo…
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Why shouldn’t Neuvy sit? Vokoun’s been better and is better.
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by J.P. on Feb 2, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Neuvy shouldn’t sit for all the games because playing Vokes in all the games is a recipe for disaster once fatigue sets in.
Reminds me of Johnny Oates and the O’s, when he just couldn’t bring himself to sit his best players and by August they were cooked.
Neuvy’s got to play at least a little, and last night was the logical time to get him some TOI, all things being equal. I can, of course, see the argument that the points against FLA have more strategic value than points against TBL.
And regarding Carlson, yes, I agree and, yes, it’s odd.
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So what does the lineup look without Carlson? What message are you trying to send by benching him? How long do you bench him? I’m personally not at the point where I think it makes sense to healthy scratch him.
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A. is he healthy?
B. how much more does he need to look like doodoo before you do sit him
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To B), sitting him and putting in Erskine just makes the D look even more glacial than it is. He’s going to have to punch his way out of it in the near term.
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 2, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
but if he is healthy, to which I am not convinced. Then upping his ncc/60 for a game or 2 cant make this team much worse then they are right now. I think he #needsmorekingkarl personally
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Boy oh boy, if the only reason he plays well is because Alzner has to be padlocked next to him, then I’m a little worried.
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On the plus side… cheap re-sign!
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I think there is a comfort level there, a bit of swagger for those 2 together, I just dont understand why you break that up…
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Because if you want to have a shutdown pair then you should probably have two guys that are playing shutdown caliber hockey.
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Who is our shutdown pair right now?
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Karl Alzner keeps them in his jock.
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Right. At the end of the day I’d prefer them to figure this out when they’ve still got not as much wear on the tires, so to speak.
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 2, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
Speaking of Alzner, did everyone appreciate his fancy footwork to prevent a scoring chance in the third period? He was able to kick the puck away from the Panthers and then dove to tap the puck to Neuvirth for a defensive zone draw to give the Caps a chance to recap. Very nice play that won’t make highlight reels.
And then MP/MoJo/Semin came out for the D zone draw, won the draw, didn’t clear the puck, and conceded what would turn out to be the GWG.
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For me it comes down to why you look like doodoo as much as that you look like doodoo. I’ve always seen a healthy scratch as “get with the fucking program.” Not just punishment for not playing well. If you aren’t good enough to help the team win, then you don’t play, that’s easy. But considering even this sophomore slump Carlson is better than most of the alternatives you can’t make the argument that he doesn’t give the team a better chance at winning.
So if his bonehead plays have been addressed over and again by the coaching staff but he still makes them, you sit him. If you think his effort isn’t there. You sit him. I don’t think it’s an effort thing, so that’s out. I could buy “you just aren’t focused because you keep passing the puck up the middle to the other team” but I don’t presume to know what goes on in team meetings so I won’t formulate my suggestions based on an assumption that Carlson’s mistakes are because he’s just not focusing or that Hunter has already gone over this stuff with him ad nauseum. Maybe Hunter is playing favorites, maybe Hunter is trying to let Carlson play his way out of this slump, and maybe Hunter doesn’t feel like he’s hammered on Carlson’s mistakes enough in practice to the point where Carlson needs to wear a suit for a game.
I’m obviously not happy with how Carlson has played, but sophomore slumps happen. I’m sure guys have been benched for them, and I’m sure guys have played straight through them. I just have more patience in this case than other people. When the coach is saying “I’ve tried everything I know to try and don’t know how to get through to him” then you have to start healthy scratching, IMO.
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I think there are any number of reasons to sit a guy. Certainly lack of effort (and, related, focus) would be on the list.
So too would be telling him, “Look, just calm down and play your game. Stop putting so much pressure on yourself. You’re fine, we’re fine.”
I don’t think it’d be quite the Hail Mary you think it would be, nor do I think it’d cripple the team. But again, I defer to Dale on this – he knows the player, he knows how hard he’s working, etc. If he thinks Carlson would benefit from a healthy scratch, I hope he’d scratch him.
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Agreed.
I also wonder what happens if you HS him and it doesn’t work? Do you keep HSing him? Does that snowball into something that tears at his confidence? (Could his confidence use a reality check?)
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No, it’d presumably be a one-and-done. Like with Sasha. Semin.
I can’t imagine that his confidence is all that high right now… and it was perhaps too much confidence that has landed him where he is, ironically.
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No doubt, we watch from the outside and they know more than we do, but I have believed for some time that it was time for Carlson to watch one game from the pressbox. Team win or team lose doesn’t matter, he goes back in the next game.
I’d view it as a positive if he was healthy scratched to watch one game from the pressbox.
As for Hunter knowing Carlson, yes, Hunter coached Carlson for one junior season when he was 18/19yo.
If anyone knows Carlson, it’s Hunter. I trust him to push the right buttons with the kid.
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That’s definitely another consideration. Everyone has to determine how much benefit of the doubt a coach gets. In a lot of situations (knowing how to coach to the modern NHL) I give Hunter less benefit of the doubt, but in terms of John Carlson I think Hunter gets more benefit of the doubt.
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You mean how a relative dark horse in the draft from the USHL went and became a stud in the OHL and then a stud in the AHL, a WJHC gold medal hero, and then had one of the best rookie seasons in the entire NHL last year? Yeah, what a fucking failure.
Sophomore slumps happen. They are so common we have a name for them!
Does Drew Doughty suck? How about Tyler Myers? How about Luke Schenn? Ok, that last one does kinda suck.
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Schenn aside (that was a terrible pick), Doughty’s and Myers’ troubles paled in comparison to what Carlson has been dealing with this season.
As profusely as Pierre McGuire praised that Schenn pick, it certainly raised my eyebrows.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, for the time when the O’s waited until August to be cooked.
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by SmallZ827 on Feb 2, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Neuvy shouldn’t sit for all the games because playing Vokes in all the games is a recipe for disaster once fatigue sets in.
there are some teams riding their goalies crazy hard this year. Lundqvist, usually the poster child for “Goalie the coach overplayed int he regular season and now can’t stop pucks to save his life,” is all the way down in 13th in GP. Goalie on teams that are in the playoffs or right on the bubble and have more than 40 GP:
Anderson, OTT (48)
Rinne, NSH (46)
Kiprusoff, CGY (44) although they’re probably more out of the playoffs than in
Howard, DET (43)
Fleury, PIT (43)
Quick, LAK (43)
the other members of the 40+ club are C. Ward (45), Hiller (44), Price (43), Pavelec (42)
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And Bylsma has stated that Johnny will be getting more starts as the season winds down.
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must be nice to have that option. I’m looking at some of these teams and going “Yeah, I wouldn’t play the back-up, either!” Detroit…..paging Detroit.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 2, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
They are only 3 points out. I know they have one game-out-of-hand (or whatever the opposite of game-in-hand is) and a few teams between them, but it’s not out of the realm of possibility.
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right. Which is why I listed them and then noted they’re more out than in….but they’ve still got a toe in the playoff pool.
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Trade deadline Feb 27th at 3pm eastern time. Caps still have 12 games before the deadline; 7 on road, 5 at home; 4 more sets of back to backs
SAT 2/4 at MTL
SUN 2/5 vs BOS (b/b)
TUE 2/7 vs FLA
THU 2/9, vs WPG
SUN 2/12 at NYR
MON 2/13 vs SJS (b/b)
FRI 2/17 at FLA
SAT 2/18 at TBL (b/b)
MON 2/20 at CAR
WED 2/22 at OTT
FRI 2/24 vs MTL
SAT 2/25 at TOR (b/b)
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So what record makes the team serious buyers? What record makes them sellers? What record makes them stand pat and just hope for luck to strike?
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And what do they know about Green and Backstrom’s status and whether they will return at any point in the regular season since that impacts both performance before (if) they return and what cap space they would have to work with at the deadline?
It’s about two weeks for Green, so we should see him starting to skate. Right?
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Pretty sure I saw a comment that he might start skating very soon, but don’t recall where I saw it. Maybe there will be an update today or tomorrow with practices at Kettler.
Today’s optional is at noon, so if he’s going to skate, we’re at least an hour away from hearing anything, since I’d guess he’d get on the ice first and then disappear.
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Stupid question about the salary cap: Does it count in the playoffs? I’m under the impression that it doesn’t for some reason.
In other words, with Backstrom and Green on the shelf (and Poti) they can’t bank space, but can spend over the cap up to what their salaries are. So something in the neighborhood of $15M, right?
But if they did that and went over the cap with some new players, would Green and Backstrom be able to join the team in the playoffs? If the cap no longer counts, then I think they could.
Or am I completely wrong.
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no cap and no roster limit in the playoff, if I’m remembering correctly.
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There’s no cap in the playoffs. (And your scenario happens – it’s likely that’s why Green didn’t play at the end of last regular season, for example.)
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Yup.
I’ll to try to clarify my reasoning for what I posted earlier for others reading.
Issue is this team is for now is competing for a playoff spot, not just getting ready for the playoffs. For example, if Green was going to be ready to play the last 10 games of the regular season, do you make a move, which would prevent the player from returning because there wasn’t enough cap space pre-playoffs starting? Yes, once the playoffs start there is no cap.
- Post trade deadline 23 player active roster limit goes away, but still a cap max.
- Post trade deadline and including the playoffs until the minor league team is no longer playing, four recall maximum from the minors, except for emergency recalls.
- Playoffs: no roster limit and no cap.
I guess it really depends on when they expect Green and Backstrom to be back.
In theory, they could be big buyers at deadline time. But they’d be putting all bets on the new additions to get them into the playoffs. Depending on how big they go – it means either Green or Backstrom (or both) wouldn’t be available until they get to the playoffs, if they make it.
It’s a question if they still think they have a chance to make a run or if they regroup for next year.
I think they are buyers no matter what. How much will depend on how much of the future assets they are willing to give up. Ted doesn’t want to lose any more of the enthusiasm of the fanbase or the additional revenue from playoff games. If they go big and it doesn’t work at least he can say he tried.
The prospect is both very exciting and incredibly disturbing – considering the high hopes at the beginning of the year.
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Entirely dependent on what FLA does.
If they’re 5+ points behind the Cats, they’re sellers.
If they’re -4 to -1 with respect to them, they’re in the pray for miracles zone.
If they’re ahead of Florida, they’re buyers.
In any other Division by the S(L)E, they really ought to be chucking this season and reconfiguring. I’m with Peerless. Absent 8, 19 and 52 this is an 80-point team, and that’s just not going to get it done.
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So what record makes the team serious buyers?
I don’t think it is their record as much as the prognosis of NB19.
They can, and have, gotten along without Green.
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Like sk8 says, a lot depends on 19 and 52. But I can’t see any scenario under which they’re “serious” buyers – if 19 and/or 52 are coming back, they have fewer needs and less cap room; if not, why push a lot of chips in the pot to help this team?
I also don’t think it’s likely that they’re sellers, but it could happen.
I’d say ~80% they’re standing relatively pat with some depth adds, perhaps.
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To all of you, how can there be a meaningful prognosis of Baxter? The way I see it, he’s either playing or he’s not. If he’s not, he’s still almost certainly in “no timetable for his return” land, unless he’s skating with contact. And even if he’s playing… see Sid.
Sort of the same for Green. He’s back or he’s not, the projected timelines have proven meaningless for him (though for a different reason than with Nick), but even if he returns it’s likely he won’t be near 100% effectiveness and it’s hard not to think it’s likely he’ll get hurt again anyway.
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I think that if either/both are skating hard with no problems, a return would presumably be imminent. Of course, there’s probably a couple of days of that, max, so we’re really talking about the same thing here – either they’re ready or they’re not.
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It would seem that the medical staff is taing an abundance of caution with Nicky – as they should. There is no reason to rush him back to save this season, as there are too many many games lost by key players already.
That seems a pretty big assumption. I find it more likely that it’s the player who doesn’t feel he’s well enough to give it a go yet. Based on this team’s past dealings with injured players, my guess is if Nick said, “Hey, I’m feeling pretty good,” they’d have him out there ASAP.
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Yeah, and considering they played him in that game after the hit, practiced him, and then flew him cross country (even if the risk of aggravating symptoms is only short-term in that situation) I don’t know that’s what I’d call “an abundance of caution.”
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With Green, given he had surgery, I think it is about how his rehab goes once he starts skating and I thought there was a report, which made it sound like that could be soon. Sure, like with any player, every day brings something new and can only plan so much, see the Wideman injury last year, and we are talking about 52. Still, t I think they will know whether they expect him back pre playoffs (asterisk next to playoffs,) or with enough time to leave the cap space available for his return before the trade deadline final decisions have to be made.
With Backstrom, IMO, cautious is the way to go, but from what we do know, it doesn’t sound good to me. Five minutes of skating, no skating recently, etc., but we don’t know what the team knows about his current situation.
Again, I view it like JP, if both players aren’t available why trade away assets. If they are available, less cap space available and in theory fewer needs.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Imma thinking it doesn’t matter – it’ll be some other team’s pick come the deadline.
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More than likely considering how much GMGM hates 2d round picks. And Finnish players.
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Huh. Ruutu’s got 15/11/26 this year. As does one Troyal Garth Brouwer.
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Even stranger:
Ruutu’s a -3, Brouwer’s a -2. 37 PIMs for for Brouwer, 40 PIMs for Ruutu. Both have 4 points on the PP.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
I also don’t think it’s likely that they’re sellers, but it could happen.
I think they might sell Semin, regardless of where they are.
Yeah, that’s not really “selling” I don’t think. More of trying to re-form the team.
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I wish Ken Holland were senile enough to take Semin.
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I agree, but the scenario where I do see them as buyers is GMGM thinks he needs a playoff run to keep his job. Unlikely and unlikely to be successful but it’s a scenario.
by Dirk Dangler on Feb 2, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
Frankly? Based on what we’ve seen? Unless they start miraculously outshooting and outchancing all their opponents starting immediately, I think the smart thing to do would be to sell off the assets who likely won’t be here in a year or two and go for a quick mini-rebuild. Knuble, Vokoun, Schultz and Semin make that list.
However, I don’t think the organization would have enough financial incentive to go through with a “fire sale” this year no matter how bad things get. There’s too much at stake for them, namely the sellout streak.
But if we’re talking about giving this team the best chance to compete over a three year window, that’s the course of action I’d take.
Yeah, I definitely don’t think they should buy. I’m with you on the low level sellers stance in that they should trade the players that aren’t in future plans regardless of how this season plays out to make room for the offseason or to get players that are.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 2, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed with all of that. You might add Wideman and Halpern to that list. Vokoun should have a ton of value as an elite goaltender on a cap-friendly contract. I don’t think anyone like that has been moved before at the deadline. But there are only a few teams that could really benefit from him: Chicago, Ottawa, Toronto, and NJ. I just don’t think the Caps will be far enough out for them to consider moving Vokoun, but if they do I would expect at least a first for him. He’s way more valuable to a playoff team than other rentals who have fetched that much (Kaberle, Kovalchuk, Jokinen).
And he’d have to be willing to waive his NMC.
by Twenty Seven Ninety on Feb 2, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with you but would even re-up it to a maxi sell by throwing into your list, say Ward (although as with Knubes, wouldn’t bring too much back) and the 2nd rounder to get a 3 – 8 offensive forward. It hurts like hell to think that 4 of 5 games and out in the first round playoffs is the goal for the rest of the year.
Fla’s schedule 7 home, 5 road 2 back to backs. They definitely have the easier road but if we can manage to win the next 2 against them that will be huge.
Fri, Feb 3 vs Winnipeg
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Tue, Feb 7 @Washington
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Sun, Feb 19 vsAnaheim
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Sat, Feb 25 @Carolina
Sun, Feb 26 vsMontreal (b/b)
I think the Caps have to at a minimum win the next 2 head to head and match Fla’s record the other 10 games.
same discussion, different day. I think I preferred the previous problem, players tuning coach out, the the current one, coach apparently hasn’t a damn clue how to coach in the NHL.
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Don’t know which problem I prefer, but certainly not happy with how Hunter has handled things so far. Was hoping for renewed strategy, employing needed techniques (like the Red Wings’ defense protection) as well as a return to basics. Crisper passing, better zone entries and exits (dear lord are we terribad at that), smarter puck possession. I see none of it.
Honestly, I think its why Bylsma has had so much success with Pitt, even with his stars out of the lineup. Everyone does fundamentals extremely well which accomplishes two tasks. 1) Few mistakes means better game management and scoring opportunities 2) Superstars (when healthy) can be super when you can reliably know your shittier linemates are going to do what everyone has been taught since they were children instead of something stupid as hell. Sounds like something the Caps could use, a little bit of fundamentals.
by feeya7 on Feb 2, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I frankly am ready for Dale to go batshit crazy on the bench one of these games. I know Bruce overdid it and I don’t know what’s going on behind closed doors, but how he can hold it together while watching the awful mess that is his team baffles and somewhat annoys me.
by Dirk Dangler on Feb 2, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
For those who don’t know or do know about the game clock controversy at the end of the CBJ LAK game last night, CBJ GM (Howson) posted on the team’s site about the issue.
I would have completely lost my shit if happened to the Caps. that clock definitely pauses at 1.8 seconds for a, relatively, extended period of time.
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#NHL told Howson they’re sending staffers to Los Angeles to investigate, confirmed Doughty’s goal should not have counted. #CBJ #LAKings
League’s pretty lucky that the team that got screwed is in 30th place by a mile (though I’d imagine there are several Western Conference playoff contenders who aren’t pleased with the way things went down).
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Howson raises that point and I think it’s relevant; it’s as much about the LAK being handed the extra point (and in regulation), as it is about the CBJ not having an opportunity to get an extra point.
I guess you could also point to the way the lottery works and other teams at the bottom of the standings.
Yeah, that’s what I’m saying. I mean, CBJ ain’t catching the 29th-place team, but that point does mean a lot to the Kings and the teams they’re battling for a playoff spot.
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Wow. Just wow. Cheating is not out of the realm of possibility on this one. If proven, which will probably be next to impossible, will the NHL change the outcome? I would love to see it. Heck, if they can’t prove it I think they should just award both teams 1 point and call it a tie. Yes, that would cause some issues but it would be funny…
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by _Skullduggery_ on Feb 2, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Just ignore it and wait for everyone to forget.
Nobody outside Buffalo cares about the ’99 SCF.
At least 95% of people probably don’t even know why I’d mention the ’04 SCF.
Shit happens, life goes on.
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Related: Jeffrey Maier can go fuck himself.
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by SmallZ827 on Feb 2, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
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Was a pretty good college baseball player too.
Maier grew up in Old Tappan, New Jersey and played baseball there at Northern Valley Regional High School at Old Tappan.6 He then played college ball at Wesleyan University in Middletown, Connecticut, where he was a first-team all-NESCAC selection. He also played briefly for the Pittsfield Dukes in the New England Collegiate Baseball League in the summer of 2005.
In 2006, he became Wesleyan’s career hits leader and was featured on ESPN. The New York Times reported that Maier hoped for a career in baseball. That spring, the Washington Post and MLB.com reported that, ironically, the Baltimore Orioles might draft him—though the team denied ever having an interest in him. 7 Maier was also invited to a tryout for a number of prospects, held by the New York Yankees. However, he was not selected by any team in the 2006 Major League Baseball Draft. Maier worked in the summer of 2006 as a scout in the Cape Cod League for ESPN’s Peter Gammons and also as an instructor for Frozen Ropes Baseball Training Center. Maier has since become a special consultant for the New Haven County Cutters. 8 He has had several internships, including with the YES Network, and had several interviews (according to The New York Times) with MLB teams at baseball’s winter meetings in search of a front-office job.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
there’s lots of pretty good college baseball players that never get a single pixel of coverage. The only reason anyone gave a shit about what he did in college, and as a potential draftee, was because he interfered with the god damn game when he was 12.
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Looks like they took this down…
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by _Skullduggery_ on Feb 2, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Between this and the Ray Ferraro thing… yeah.
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by _Skullduggery_ on Feb 2, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
Probably not since the wording was measured, I’m sure they just got a call and were “asked” to take it down. I doubt anything else comes from it.
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“Please don’t embarrass us, we already screwed up the Michalek-Hendricks hit…”
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by _Skullduggery_ on Feb 2, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Aaron Portzline on why it was taken down:
Told by #CBJ spokesman Todd Sharrock that GM Scott Howson decided to pull his blog from the club’s Web site.
Howson felt there were a few points in the blog that he “made too strongly.”
quite honestly, I don’t believe that for one second.
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Is Howson one of Campbell’s nicknames?
Once you take the fisting element out, it's not romantic anymore.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 2, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
""It’s tough for them to lose, so making excuses is normal, but luckily there was enough time on the clock, and it counted." -Doughty
Dick move, IMO.
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by _Skullduggery_ on Feb 2, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
I get the feeling that Doughty is kind of a dickbag. No real proof, he just gives off that aura.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 2, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
At least in the drubbing the kings gave us a few weeks back, The Captain gave that dickbag a pounding that rivals Sasha Grey fist in the money shot scene
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On the bench?
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by timmyv38 on Feb 2, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That looks like a “27” on the left side of the screen, and according to shift charts, Alzner and Schultz were never on the ice together last night, so I think you are correct.
by Twenty Seven Ninety on Feb 2, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
I hadn’t even looked at that. I was going on the basis that Hunter dislikes playing Schultz lol.
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Based on TOI, your guess had ~84% chance of being correct.
by Twenty Seven Ninety on Feb 2, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Goalies: the -last- only line of defence.
by Rather Bengt on Feb 2, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
I think Alzner called “Yours” to Neuvy so it’a sll good. With KA’s propensity for own goals, best he gets out of the way.
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by dcsportsfan1 on Feb 2, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
Is there another team in this blessed league that finds both defensemen outside the posts more often with the puck in the crease than this one?
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In fairness, the Caps are killing a 5-on-1 power-play there, I think.
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Stingrays had a successful roadtrip in January; as a result, plenty of accolades. The latest:
Grubauer ECHL rookie of the month
“The 20-year-old went 7-1-0 with one shutout, a 1.66 goals-against average and a save percentage of .935 in nine appearances during the month, helping the Stingrays to an 11-2-0 mark in January.”
Also, Machesney was injured in a game this weekend so the Stingrays traded for another goalie, Billy Sauer, started and won last night, but it means Grubauer will see even more work, IMO.
It would be interesting to see him get a game in Hershey, just to see him at the level he clearly should be at. I realize that’s not happening unless someone gets hurt, and don’t want to see that happen. Just being wisful.
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There was an opportunity at the beginning of the season; I was disappointed at the time that they didn’t give him at least one start. Yes, since that time, there hasn’t been an opportunity and that’s good news, relatively speaking, because it would be nice to see how he looks at the AHL level. Of course, one game won’t mean much.
1.66 GAA with an ECHL defense in front of him? Impressive.
by Twenty Seven Ninety on Feb 2, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Facing ECHL shooters, of course.
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Of course. According to a quick and dirty look at the standings tables for this season to date, the average NHL game has 5.49 goals, the average AHL game 5.76, and the average ECHL game 6.11. Not that this parses out the contributing factors to each goal (shooter vs. D vs. goalie).
by Twenty Seven Ninety on Feb 2, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
JoeyZStingrays Joseph Zakrzewski
This is Grubauer’s third award this season. Won Goalie of Week in late Oct. G of Month in Nov. and now Rookie of Month in Jan. @SCStingrays
Not too shabby for a kid who missed half of last season with mono (more than that?).
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Trrrrrrrrrrrrrrade bait
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
I doubt it. He’s not going to have much value at this point. The goalie depth is more valuable to the Caps than anything he’d realistically fetch.
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He would seem like a classic “throw-in prospect” ala a Theo Ruth.
33 games with Springfield this year, Ruth has 1/4/5 -12. Last year he was 1/5/6 -18.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I don’t miss Ruth. At the same time, he was never a guy that would put up flashy numbers. His minus isn’t as startling since he’s in the CBJ system so I assume the team isn’t very good.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Holy cow, Bridgeport is 10-0-0-1 in its last 11.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
And that’ll do it
The American Hockey League announced today that Bridgeport Sound Tigers center Casey Cizikas has been named the Reebok/AHL Player of the Month for January. Cizikas tallied eight goals and 10 assists for 18 points and registered a plus-14 rating in 11 games during January as the Sound Tigers climbed from last place to first in the Northeast Division on the strength of a 10-0-0-1 month.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Isles have a lot of good prospies in the system and he’s one of the better ones.
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I’m glad he could get his life together after that horrible incident.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
I, for one, don’t see Grubauer as a throw-in prospect and don’t think it’s comparable to a dman playing college hockey (which Ruth was at the time of the trade.) As far as Ruth’s Springfield stats, not reading much into them.
Agree he’s more valuable to the Caps than what value he’d get on the trade market.
Especially when one considers that his contract will slide so he will still have 3 seasons remaining on his ELC after this season, unless he unexpectedly makes it to the NHL and plays 10 games this season.
You have to think about timing with goalies. Grubauer isn’t going to be ready for prime time for at least a couple more years (if Neuvirth is a guide, say, two years at Hershey). By that time, and factoring the rookie growing pains, you are 3-4 years down the road at which point Neuvirth or Holtby might be here…they might not.
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Can someone explain to me what happened in the Jackets-Kings game last night? What is the “stopped clock” to which follks are referring? I know the winning goal was scored with 0.3 seconds left. When did the clock stop?
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1.8 seconds, apparently for at least a second.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
In the middle of play?
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That’s awful. It would be very interesting if they overturned the goal.
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And, what, replay with OT? Give CBJ a point? Not sure how they’d be able to retroactively fix this fuck-up.
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if MLB didn’t retroactively fix the perfect game fuck up, the NHL isn’t goign to fix this.
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Why not? This might have playoff implications depending on where the Kings sit at the end of the season. A perfect game is just a record in a book (albeit an incredibly rare one).
Although I agree they probably won’t end up doing anything, I just don’t like the comparison. This is a much tougher decision.
Campbell was quoted today stating nothing will change regarding the game outcome based on investigation. Game is over and in the books.
No chance of that.
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"Those clocks are sophisticated instruments that calculate time by measuring electrical charges called coulombs—given the rapidity and volume of electrons that move through the measuring device the calibrator must adjust at certain points which was the delay you see—the delay is just recalibrating for the clock moving too quickly during the 10 – 10ths of a second before the delay—this insures that the actual playing time during a period is exactly 20 minutes That is not an opinion—that is science—amazing devise quite frankly."
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by SethB on Feb 2, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Basic question, but one that I haven’t been able to find a satisfying answer to:
In a situation such as Miller/Lundqvist last night, are both goalies credited with a shutout? Both end the game with 0 GA, but I’m not finding clarity on whether you can have a SO without the W.
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I believe the answer is yes. You can have a shut out through OT and still lose. Not unlike having a no-hitter and losing. Andy Hawkins of the Yankees once lost a no-hitter 4-0.
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Back in the ancient days when there were these things called ties, it used to be possible for a game to end 0-0 and both goaltenders were given credit for a shutout and a tie. I believe in the current NHL, both Miller and Lundqvist get a shutout on their records.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 2, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Via Whyno:
"Some teams, it’s just really easy to get up for because the team that they are — the Canadiens, the Rangers," [Alzner] said. "Those games are really easy. Sometimes here in Florida it’s difficult to get up."
That quote is just fucking pathetic.
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by J.P. on Feb 2, 2012 11:49 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Great room they got.
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by Rob Parker on Feb 2, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
“We just don’t see the motivation in playing hard against the team we are battling for first in the division and the team that bitch slapped us, took our lunch money, and fed us our underpants last spring.”
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by Rob Parker on Feb 2, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So this means they play well next game, right?
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Maybe that Sasha Grey idea would help them get up?
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by STLSpidey on Feb 2, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Worth a try. They aren’t going anywhere with that flaccid Fenwick.
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by Rob Parker on Feb 2, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
BS. Just goes to show how delicate they are from game to game.
That was a big game last night, and just because they are in an empty house and playing against a team they have owned (before this year), they should have taken ithe opportunity to show that they are a god damn team worth watching.
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The fact that the quote is from Alzner makes it doubly so. Can’t get up for the one team you might need to beat on the regular to make the playoffs? Fuck me.
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Well, the atmosphere in that arena is generally atrocious, so it’s going to have an impact no matter how much they care about the standings.
Atmosphere in the away arena should have no effect on how well the Caps are mentally prepared to win the hockey game.
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Atmosphere is always going to have an impact on humans. Always. If they were a better team the impact would be minimized, but they aren’t so it isn’t. Not a big surprise.
So if we stopped going to Caps games, they’d do better because other teams wouldn’t get up for them!
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We can go, just be really, really quiet!
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Which is to say that even if there’s a small impact, that’s no excuse. If you turn in a shitty performance because the house is half-full, your role gets re-cast. If your food suffers because only four two-tops showed up on a Tuesday, they find a new chef. Etc.
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I think it’s more than a small impact, though, especially for a team like the Caps.
If they were a better team the impact would be small. The team that took the ice last night was not a particularly good team, though, and so the mental side of things becomes so much bigger.
I think bad teams can get up for games and good teams get down for games. I’m not sure it’s related to how talented/high in the standings a team is. And my initial point was that it shouldn’t have an impact, so we may be in violent agreement.
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I think should or shouldn’t is meaningless. The Caps are what they are, and that’s not good enough to get around things like this (at least not yet).
But then I’m a pragmatist who’s opinion counts for very little in the scheme of things.
It’s not meaningless, it’s what is making everyone frustrated in the first place. If there had been no “should,” we wouldn’t be getting mad at “didn’t.”
Looking at it another way, if the statement is “The Caps are what they are, which is spineless and shitty at hockey,” well, that’s another reason to sour the mood.
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I agree people have a right to be sour. I’m just saying be sour that the team is mediocre, don’t be sour when a player says something is true that should be obvious for mediocre teams (at least this brand of mediocre).
Well, it’s a confirmation that it’s “this brand of mediocre,” which is the worst kind.
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Yeah, but not saying it doesn’t make it any less true.
The Caps are a mentally fragile team. They’ve shown it before, they’ll show it again.
Owning up to it in public to a reporter makes it worse.
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Yikes, really Alzner? Keeping a playoff spot wasn’t motivation enough? I see where he’s coming from, but this quote would be a lot more forgivable a year ago…
by David C. Rothman on Feb 2, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
i’m assuming the rest of that quote that whyno left off because he’s a troll is something like “…but this was for first place so everyone here was pumped.”
Well there was:
"The crowd was quiet, yeah. So I think that has a little bit to do with it, but we should’ve created our own energy because it was such a big game, and we didn’t do a good enough job doing it."
mitigates it a little bit.
I really had to keep myself awake whenever they played in Atlanta last year for that reason…but they weren’t leapfrogging us for the division…
by David C. Rothman on Feb 2, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
I’ve moved on from grief to anger to comfortably numb. They don’t give a shit, why should I give a shit.
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get your own. My stash has to last me through the end of April.
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by RedBirdie on Feb 2, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
And not Boyd Crowder.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
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agree, but there was this, too:
"I found that it was quiet; it was kind of tough to get up for the game here. I don’t know why. I think I have an idea why," defenseman Karl Alzner said. "The crowd was quiet, yeah. So I think that has a little bit to do with it, but we should’ve created our own energy because it was such a big game, and we didn’t do a good enough job doing it."
Yeah, I’m not sure how much that really adds (other than the explicit recognition that it’s on them to generate their own energy, which I’d inferred since Karl Alzner isn’t brain dead).
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I think it adds a lot; I was a lot more annoyed reading the quote on twitter before I read the other comments he made (and were reported.)
It’s Alzner, I’m glad he stated it rather than required it to be inferred.
Doesn’t mean I’m not annoyed by the comment.
That’s fair. Underlying point remains, though – if you need a raucous road crowd to get you into that game, there’s an awful lot of fail going on (and I don’t think Alzner was talking about himself, necessarily, but whatever).
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No. Unquestionably, both the FAILON/60 and FAILOFF/60 are high.
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Alzner said that????
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 2, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Jesus christ that’s a damning quote from one of the guys who’s supposed to not fall victim to the Caps locker room culture. I guess the urgency for this team hasn’t set in yet after three years.
Good thing the window on the young guns is never going to close.
Can you say that he actually fell victim to it though? He had a strong game. He’s one of the ones I don’t actually worry about in that respect (partly because his role doesn’t require a huge psych-up factor, but partly because he’s one of the more professional/mature players on the team).
He’s one of the ones I don’t actually worry about in that respect
I think this is the problem. Because now you kind of have to, if he’s the one verbalizing it.
(I lied!)
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I take this as more commenting on the team as a whole. If he says this, but plays well regardless (which he did), do you worry?
Basically, Alzner not pumped up is still very good. Or so I’m thinking. Some others? Not so much.
Maybe. But if there was one guy I didn’t want to be buying into this crap, it was Alzner. Maybe he’s not, but if this quote came from Semin or whomever I’d find it easier to stomach.
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Again, I don’t think admitting the truth is the same as buying in. He’s not saying it’s acceptable (in fact he’s flat out saying it’s not), but it is what it is.
That he can play well despite that is something that encourages me. But then to me Alzner has been one of the few good things about the team this season, so maybe I’m just clinging to that for dear life (despite being a pragmatist… I’m only human).
Except that only a few weeks ago, they came out totally flat against Pittsburgh, the team that they hate.
"Money talks. I listen."
Sometimes it’s difficult to get up for day games.
(This is fun… it’s like a Boudreau Excuse Generator.)
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They should have morning games; most of them are probably up whether they want to be or not.
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That’s a morning wood joke, isn’t it?
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 2, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve noticed a bit of an alarming trend with how a good amount of the commenters here approach the ‘locker room quote’. If the players give a positive quote, they usually get a bit of spite and admonishment for just giving hockey lines or PC statements.
The problem arises when they give a negative quote; some of you guys are jumping all over them for some perceived error or even some sort of miasma in the locker room. Is this not just a ‘hockey’ liner? An assumption is made about the perceived weakness or ineptitude of the team, then from that assumptions we start trying to explain it with some pretty wild ideas, then, even go further and talk about how we can fix the assumed reason thats causing the assumed problem. For a bunch of stat nerds and lawyers that like to approach everything with sound logic, that sounds pretty stupid.
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Player says team had trouble getting up for an intradivisional game with first place on the line. Where’s the wiggle room on interpretation here?
Also, feel free to stick to the substance rather than ripping the people discussing the substance.
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It’s not so much the interpretation of the quote. It’s the extrapolation that happens afterwords. There are so many reasons why what one players says in an interview shouldn’t be the base of substantial arguments about the team; yet, they’re often used to explain some sort of lack of constitution the team does or doesn’t have.
I feel like I kept my post relatively non-offensive. I never insulted anyone here, just identifying something they’re doing, that i feel is wrong. Moreover, I barely see the consistency in judging my criticism as “not” substance when it goes on here all the time.
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No, there was plenty of substantive criticism… then “stat nerds and lawyers” being “pretty stupid.”
Anyway, you’re entitled to your opinion. Feel free to throw away Alzner’s quote. If others want to latch on to it, that’s their call.
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I do agree with gist of his point albeit in a much milder manner. Earlier in the season after the infamous Ovi benching I said something to the effect that I thought the players had taken note of BB’s tougher stand. Of course I had based my observation on what the guys said in their post game interviews and was accordingly told by a number of folks that such player responses were standard PR speak. Therefore meaningless.
So it’s fair I think to ask when should we pay attention to their words. And when we should blow them off? I believe that folks, myself included, carry bias. If quotes fit what we believe then we tend to give them greater importance. Or negate them if they don’t fit our perception.
Me. I pay attention to what they say, not say, and how many make a similar point. I look for patterns in their responses. And I try to listen to the full interviews directly to make my own judgement. Sometimes I find them canned. Sometimes insightful. And I ask myself why particular quotes seem more important to me.
Now I haven’t had a chance to listen to Alzner yet so I am not passing judgement on his remarks. However, it appears from this thread that the full quote is much more like the level headed guy we all know and appreciate. The part that was tweeted is out of context. And only partially quoted in print. (Tweets can be disingenous and dangerous; I don’t trust them).
Moreover, we don’t know what question he was asked. Those questions are often leading ones. Ovi now. If he doesn’t like the question he just sidesteps it. I can easily imagine Alzner gamely and earnestly trying to answer all of the questions. Even the distasteful or confusing ones.
Knuble: "I am what I am. I play well with good players."
On his milestone: "It's going to be like unwrapping a birthday present. Then the day after you're kind of like [sighs]....Now you just have to keep going."
by capsyoungguns on Feb 2, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
There’s a reason “statement against party interest” is a hearsay exception, and that’s because throughout human history we’ve seen that people are more likely to tell the truth if they are saying something that is against their interest (we don’t get up for crapdog teams) than if it’s in their interest (our coach is awesome).
As far as Alzner’s quote, my problem isn’t personally with what it admits to: I think most of us can realize that people have bad days and sometimes you aren’t feeling it. For me the issue is that he just admitted that the team didn’t feel motivated to play two division rivals, one of whom embarrassed them last year and one of whom has been the division leader for large parts of this season. This wasn’t Columbus or the Islanders.
Please, call me F&B.
by Rob Parker on Feb 2, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Fair observation. And probably true for a number of these media interview quotes. However, I’d still argue that it’s not always true in real life. Individuals respond differently depending on their personalities. I would be cautious about taking a comment at face value just because it seemed to be “against party interest.” Lots of folks have hidden agendas—although I am getting far afield of this particular situation. Also my observation at the time was not about “coach is great” quotes. I am at least more perceptive and thoughtful than that. As for Alzner I still need to listen for myself before passing judgement. But I understand your point. It ain’t great for Alzner to say that about the team no matter what he was asked—both the long and short version.
Knuble: "I am what I am. I play well with good players."
On his milestone: "It's going to be like unwrapping a birthday present. Then the day after you're kind of like [sighs]....Now you just have to keep going."
by capsyoungguns on Feb 2, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
Oh and I love the stats nerds and lawyers. I’m married to one. So when I don’t understand some of the statistical analysis I’ll ask him for clarification. (I haven’t convinced him yet he should try his hand on generating some of the advanced stuff.)
Knuble: "I am what I am. I play well with good players."
On his milestone: "It's going to be like unwrapping a birthday present. Then the day after you're kind of like [sighs]....Now you just have to keep going."
by capsyoungguns on Feb 2, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, exactly, I meant for there to be substantive criticism. I don’t see anything wrong in criticizing others without any egotism, maliciousness, or what have you.
And you’re taking what I said out of context. I said that the act of compounding assumptions based off of assumptions was stupid, not that the stat nerds and lawyers were stupid (two communities i can roughly identify with). I’m always down to defend what I say. . .i guess after so many randos coming in here trying to nitpick the establishment we’ve all gotten rather defensive
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I don’t know, the Caps were just a couple of bounces away from a drastically different outcome. The Halpern deflection off the inside of the post comes to mind. They fought hard against Tampa the night before (who benefited from some question refereeing), and then come in against a well-rested Panthers team. It’s mentally defeating to go from 3rd to 9th after one night, but it’s no reason to panic yet. No 1C, 1W, and 1D sucks, big time though.
by David C. Rothman on Feb 2, 2012 11:50 AM EST reply actions
Small good news. Green is on the ice, right on schedule.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
…and hurt again. Right on schedule.
Please, call me F&B.
by Rob Parker on Feb 2, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Past performance is not a predictor of future events.
OR
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
Pick one. Your choice.
Nice guys finish first, but sometimes the season is awfully long.
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I’ll go with c) Mike Green has played in just under 45% of regular season games since his last Norris nomination.
Please, call me F&B.
I’m going to take that “last” as “most recent” instead of “final” and assume that he’s got another one in him!
Eat, drink, and be merry! And then drink some more.
Whatever floats your boat. He also stayed healthy for an entire 8 games last spring in the playoffs, which is just an amazing feat of endurance. He almost matched it with his ironman run of 7 games to start this season, but alas it was not to be.
Please, call me F&B.
I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.
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You can take my exclamation mark above to mean “I need a pint of Chubby Hubby.”
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I’m not sure where “chocolate-covered, peanut-butter-filled pretzels” fits in, here.
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Yeah, I doubt she’d draw the line there of all places.
by Twenty Seven Ninety on Feb 2, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Same reaction I had to this:
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Here’s my bottom line of the day: if the #Caps were even an average road team, they’d be fine. They’re not and they’re not.
Do both at the same time… it’s cathartic.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 2, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
This is what I was hoping for with the team back and updates, surprised even with the Caps away that no one saw Green skating, but this isn’t day one.
SWhyno Stephen Whyno
#Caps spokesman says Mike Green skated Tuesday and Wednesday. This is Day Three on ice. Right on schedule it appears.
by sk84fun_dc on Feb 2, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
McPhee sitting around the roundtable with his assistants this morning:
“You mean to tell me that of the four young guns, two are hurt and we don’t know if they’re ever going to be the same, one has completely fallen off the map and the other is now a 30-goal scorer who doesn’t play defense? Linda, bring me more scotch.”
I think the younger Caps fans are finally getting what we old farts have known for decades. There is no joy in being a Caps fan, just a long, relentless test of will, testing your very soul…a slog through the swamps of disappointment, the deserts of underachievement, and finally, the endless void of playoff rounds never seen. It is the ninth circle of Hell where you, like Satan, are buried to your waist in ice, flailing in a desperate an ultimately futile attempt to escape, the icy winds bearing down upon you only further shackling you to the icy eternity that is unfulfilled rooting for the Caps.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Feb 2, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
If Hell is hot, how does that ice not melt? Maybe they could pass along some ice management tips to the Verizon crew.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro"
9th circle belongs to CBJ. Caps could very well reside in the 8th—for frauds, false prophets and flatters, etc.
Most in DC have known the sharp pain of disappointing seasons; be they Redskins fans, Capitals, WIzards/Bullets or any other local team.
Being Black History Month, I’d like to quote Rev. Jesse Jackson who said, “Keep hope alive.”
…to kill it every spring as a sacrifice to the hockey god.
"One of the most difficult things everyone has to learn is that for your entire life you must keep fighting and adjusting if you hope to survive." -George Allen
Well put, my friend. I didn’t realize it was the ninth circle of hell. I feel much closer to the center than the 9th circle.
Nice guys finish first, but sometimes the season is awfully long.
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Bullshit, there’s hope.
If the team is this bad for another three years or so, they’ll probably do another fire sale. And then they might get some really sweet draft picks that could turn into a great hockey team!
Hey, atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Feb 3, 2012 2:32 AM EST up reply actions
Oh Lord…. McPhee as Dan Draper…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 2, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Rink's consensus on loser point (I'm kinda new)?
I’ve always felt that the “loser point” allows both teams to “go for it” in OT. It’s the Shootout that I hate beyond all reason, because it’s never used in the playoffs (unlike soccer). If the teams are still tied after 5 min, one point each & move on. I don’t see the big deal about an OT winner getting an extra point.
by ShootTheBullets on Feb 2, 2012 12:12 PM EST reply actions
The main problem is that it makes an OT game worth more than a regulation game.
Failure is always an option.
Strangely enough, since the soccer analogy was used, a tie in most soccer leagues result in both teams getting a single point. A win results in the winner getting 3 (loser 0). So in soccer, a tie results in less points overall. There, tying is almost as debilitating as losing flat out.
I kind of like that idea.
Tu ne cede malis
by _Skullduggery_ on Feb 2, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Americans Hate Ties!
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The major beef is that (like soccer) games result in different number of points awarded.
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Although in soccer they have added incentive to go for the win when tied. If you play two games and get a win and a loss you have 3 points. Two draws get you 2 points.
I’m just waiting for a dreaded situation like this (obviously hypothetical) situation:
April 8th Western Conf. standings:
7th place: Colorado – 82 GP, 93 Pts, 40 ROW
8th place: Edmonton – 82 GP, 93 Pts, 40 ROW
9th place: Dallas – 81 GP, 92 Pts, 41 ROW
10th place: Columbus – 81 GP, 92 Pts, 41 ROW
(Yes, I know these teams aren’t in positions like this… it’s a hypothetical!)
On the schedule on April 9th is Dallas vs. Columbus. If that game goes to OT, both the Stars and BJ’s go into the playoffs, and Colorado and Edmonton are out. Obviously Edmonton will be out regardless, but the two teams can collaborate to make sure they both get in and push Colorado out as well. This could happen one day under the current system…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 2, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
The old 5 min OT was dull as hell. Both teams playing to protect the point.
by ShootTheBullets on Feb 2, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
If the NHL has to have a shoot out, then fine, here’s an idea:
How about this: points are awarded as follows:
Win in Regulation or OT – 2 points
Win in a Shootout – 1 point
Loss – 0 points
Wins would determine standing, then ROW, then points.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 2, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Breaking a tie with a gimmick is worse than a tie, IMHO.
by ShootTheBullets on Feb 2, 2012 12:17 PM EST reply actions
Anyone want to take note of Alexander Semin’s current drought of penalties? Aside from a tripping penalty a few games ago, I can’t recall a single time he’s gone to the box in the last month or so.
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by KNUUUUUUUUUUBLE on Feb 2, 2012 12:19 PM EST reply actions
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Big KHL showdown between Traktor and Salavat Yulaev tomorrow. Kuznetsov and radulov are the poster boyz.
They are showing it for free on YouTube – I’ll have the link in Clips tomorrow.
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Any chance Radulov will whack his coach in this one?
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 2, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
As long as he’s not whacking our prospect, I don’t know that I care.
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by EmilyB on Feb 2, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
For the time-zone challenged/lazy… anyone know what time that is eastern?
Tu ne cede malis
by _Skullduggery_ on Feb 2, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
If the Giants can be in the Superbowl after a lackluster season, I’ll have to keep faith that the Capitals can find a way to the post-season.
Maybe.
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The Giants have better pitching than the Capitals do.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
And then there was the case of the St. Louis Cardinals in baseball this past year. They essentially finished 2nd in a sucky division (the NL Central. which we could call the NL Sucktral, and barely snuck into the playoffs as Wild Card, after underachieving all year. Their star player was having a terrible year statistically and was in the last year of his contract. So, they ended up upsetting the Phillies and going on from there to get into the World Series and winning it.
It would be the equivalent of the Caps barely making it as 8th seed and somehow upsetting the 1st place Rangers, then making it past Rounds 2 & 3, and advancing to the Stanley Cup Finals and beating a good team there. That scenario gives me a small (albeit very small) glimmer of hope for the Caps. (And it was proof positive that every team I root for is not jinxed.)
Rocking the Red for teams on the banks of the Potomac and at the Gateway Arch and Singing the Blues about Hockey.
Nobody Panic!
Because it seemed like it would be entertaining, I went through ESPN’s 2011-2012 hockey preview ($$$) and discovered that we have absolutely nothing to worry about! The Caps scored a perfect 36/36 on the playoff power meter, so a Stanley Cup is, like, all but guaranteed once if once if we make the playoffs.
Then:
1. Success against Top 8 NHL teams? Check! [8 pts]
2. Goals/game of 2.8 or better? Check! [4 pts]
3. Shots/game of 31 or better? Check! [4 pts]
4. Goals against/game of 2.6 or lower? Check! [4 pts]
5. Shots against/game of 31 or lower? Check! [4 pts]
6. Goal differential per game of 0.2 or better? Check! [4 pts]
7. Shot differential per game of 2.8 or better? Check! [4 pts]
8. SV% of .910 or better? Check! [2 pts]
9. PP% of 17% or better? Check! [1 pt]
10. PK% of 81% or better? Check! [1 pt]
Now:
1. Success against Top 8 NHL teams? Barely check (.500)! [8 pts]
2. Goals/game of 2.8 or better? Barely check (2.80)! [4 pts]
3. Shots/game of 31 or better? SHIT.
4. Goals against/game of 2.6 or lower? Check! Shit.
5. Shots against/game of 31 or lower? Barely Check (30.3)! [4 pts]
6. Goal differential per game of 0.2 or better? Shit.
7. Shot differential per game of 2.8 or better? Shit.
8. SV% of .910 or better? Check! Shit.
9. PP% of 17% or better? Barely Check (17.9%)! [1 pt]
10. PK% of 81% or better? Shit.
So…that puts us at 17/36 currently. And like, one bad game away from 0/36.
Beginning to think Neil is right. That we’re just doomed no matter what.
Roman Hamrlik is so bad that I've forgotten how bad Jeff Schultz is.
by Alex Reed on Feb 2, 2012 1:02 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
kcarrera Katie Carrera
Rechlicz when asked about R. Bourque’s elbow on Backstrom: “I heard it was a cheap shot. Hopefully im in the lineup for that game.” #Caps
I heard it was a cheap shot, but I have no way of knowing one way or another because I do not have access to a place where a video of the hit might be disseminated to the masses /derp
RAMPAGE
I always wonder how many caps players post here with pseudonyms (of course) , there’s got to be at least one…
What doesnt kill you makes you stronger.
by BetterOffWith28 on Feb 2, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Neuvy is probably the biggest Semin lobbyist.
J.P.: You might be the king of all geeks here…
by Alz Well That Ends Well on Feb 2, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
“Also, what the fuck is that thing that all the guys have that looks like a giant mobile phone and says ‘XOXO, Nicky’ on the back?”
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Guy uses a wood stick. Probably has a sweet ass laser disk collection to play on his 65", $10,000, 3 ton Mistubishi rear projection TV. So in order to see that hit, he’ll have to wait for the “Capitals Year in Review” video tape to show up in the new rentals section at Erols.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Feb 2, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 14 recs
Rec’d for Erols.
"He leaves every ounce of energy that he has on the ice and works very hard at it, and he wants to be the best and he wants to win, If you don’t follow that, you’ve got something wrong with you."
It shall now be known as Rechlicz’d. At least when I do it.
"He leaves every ounce of energy that he has on the ice and works very hard at it, and he wants to be the best and he wants to win, If you don’t follow that, you’ve got something wrong with you."
Blockbuster on 8th st SE went out of business a few months ago. Under the Blockbuster sign? EROLS. I’d post the pic, it but it’s on my phone.
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Erol’s was my first job…. do you know I got more benefits working part time then most people working full time? I got paid on holidays even if I didn’t work. I made $4.25 an hour to start, two years later I made $5.85 an hour.
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by TheFuryUnleashed on Feb 2, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
shit. Erols. I feel old.
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As do I. Hell, I still recall the excitement of Netflix letting me use the mail. What a novelty that once was.
Knuble: "I am what I am. I play well with good players."
On his milestone: "It's going to be like unwrapping a birthday present. Then the day after you're kind of like [sighs]....Now you just have to keep going."
by capsyoungguns on Feb 2, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
Watching Carlson’s inept play of late and the 2 shots scored on Neuvy from somewhere deep in the Florida Everglades last night made me think of another phenomenon (besides under-performance, injuries, and apparent indifference from about 1/2 of the players) that may explain Carlson’s and Neuvy’s lame attention spans. Namely, they have been ‘Seminized.’ ‘Seminized’, vt., means to "skate with a glazed-over look in your eyes suggesting “What? There’s a hockey game on? Then, where am I supposed to go and what I am supposed to do when I get there?”
Buy or Sell?
Dean Lombardi of the Kings as retweeted by Sarah Kwak of si.com:
(1) Those clocks are sophisticated instruments that calculate time by measuring electrical charges called coulombs
(2) given the rapidity and volume of electrons that move through the measuring device the calibrator must adjust at certain points
(3) which was the delay you see – the delay is just recalibrating for the clock moving too quickly during the 10 – 10ths of a second before
(4) the delay – this insures that the actual playing time during a period is exactly 20 minutes – that is not an opinion – that is science
Really? A clock has to recalibrate over the course of 20 minutes? Why was this never noticeable before in any of the other hundreds of thousands of sporting events played with clocks?
Nice guys finish first, but sometimes the season is awfully long.
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Because the re-calibration didn’t happen within a second of a controversial play?
In the NFL the clock is an inexact science to say the least. There is no clock in the MLB. The clock in the NBA is a bit less important because a) it runs while the ball isn’t really in play and b) a basket still counts as long as it was released before the buzzer (which will, in most cases, provide enough leeway to make it a moot point).
Please, call me F&B.
So is he saying the 1.8 seconds actually took 1.8 seconds even though the clock didn’t start? Riiiiight.
All that may be true. But if the human finger that was supposed to start the clock was up someone’s nose or someplace else, coulombs and electrons don’t really matter.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
Or that even if the 1.8 took longer than 1.8, the previous 19:58.2 actually took less than 19:58.2 so that last 1.8 had to slow down to compensate.
Please, call me F&B.
Got it. Which may be true. Problem is that the players and coaches are playing assuming there is 1.8 seconds remaing, not whether or not the period will actually be 20 minutes long when it’s all said and done.
This may explain why some periods under the Hunter regime seem like they take 30 minutes to play. It’s not the style of play, it’s those darn coulombs.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Feb 2, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Sometimes it’s hard to get up with the coulombs and all.
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And hard to keep the coulumbs up for longer than 1.8 seconds.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
The coulombs blue jackets are the worst team in the league, so I understand why it would be hard to get up for them. But that’s what Sasha Grey is for, right?
Please, call me F&B.
Yes. For the BJs.
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by J.P. on Feb 2, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Watching Green on the post-practice video, I don’t think he’s looked that happy in a long time. As long as no one whacks him in his first game back, makes you wish he’d had the surgery long ago, although I 100% understand why you want to avoid the knife if at all possible.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
haven’t seen it, but smiling Greenie makes me smile, too.
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Is a healthy Mike Green really the only thing that’ll bring back this team’s pimp walk?
- P.Daddy
After departure Bruce basically said he didn’t keep his pimp hand strong.
But then that’s a good strategy to say “I changed my game” when, again, in fact we know things were already broken by then
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by RedBirdie on Feb 2, 2012 2:02 PM EST reply actions 16 recs
Definitely what’s needed…. So Rec’d!
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 2, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
“Who are you?” said the kids to John Erskine and Jay Beagle.
“We play for the Capitals.”
“Really? How come I never see you on the ice? Are you sure you play for the Caps?”
“Yes, we do. We don’t play that often. Sometimes the coaches choose different players.”
“Aah. I see. Um – can you ask one of the real Capitals to come talk to me.”
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AliceAnna and I were at the Rink back in December and it was holiday camp. Jason Chimera came out of the ice and those kids lit up, so excited to see him. The other group that got Roman Hamrlik? Yeah, there was no cheering.
Chimera was also there today, signing autographs on ice.
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I’d never realized the height difference between Erskine and Neuvirth til this picture.
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by Icebat on Feb 2, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wow. Probably just the camera perspective, but that first kid looks bigger than Jay Beagle!
by Twenty Seven Ninety on Feb 2, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Rec’d. Happy thoughts—for the non game side.
Knuble: "I am what I am. I play well with good players."
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by capsyoungguns on Feb 2, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
And in silly news...
Mike Green apparently has a new tattoo…

Hope he never has to change his number for any reason.
That’s nice of him to get the Caps motto for this season tattooed on his wrist.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Ha. I was just thinking, “That probably cuts down on the number of teams with whom he could sign…”
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 2, 2012 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
Guy’s a bandana and flannel away from being a cholo.
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 2, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If he upgrades that Vespa he just might be a member of the Mongols soon.
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by Rob Parker on Feb 2, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Would it shock you if it was Anheuser-Busch?
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by J.P. on Feb 2, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Or how far he can get through the alphabet without checking?
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by Rob Parker on Feb 2, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
“If you just spot me the first couple of letters, I can get going and take it from there.”
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The other wrist says “BA”

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 2, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
So he remembers what part of his body was most recently operated on.
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Actually, it’s so that when he takes the next big hit, all the Kings horses and all the kings men can put him back together again.
This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps.
by That Beardy Guy on Feb 2, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Just looked at the official Albrta website to see if they had the fancy fonts ’n such.
Man, what a boring website: http://alberta.ca/
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And he’s got belly stubble. He’s really let himself go.
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by J.P. on Feb 2, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Eakin back to Hershey. Looks like Rechlicz gets his date with Bourque.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
So what exactly happens if a player doesn’t want to engage in a fight but punches are thrown at him anyways?
Tu ne cede malis
by _Skullduggery_ on Feb 2, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
for one example, see Rene Bourque wearing a Calgary Flames jersey vs Tyler Sloan in a Caps jersey, Oct 21, 2008
Steven Stamkos 2 games ago vs us…
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Let me rephrase, what SHOULD happen? Just the instigator tacked on? Might be worthwhile…
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by _Skullduggery_ on Feb 2, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Isn’t Bourque under Recker’s weight class?
Beyond that, yeah, I’m not happy that Backstrom is still out, while Bourque can play.. However, Bourque also already fought for it. Hendricks wouldn’t have been my first choice either since I wanted to see a decent bout. As far as I am concerned, he has answered the bell already. Time to move on.
All this talk of further retribution worries me a bit. I don’t want to see another Steve Moore incident.
I'll have the milksteak, over hard
If all he does is legally hit him hard into the glass, it might be enough.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
I don’t know that Rechlicz can catch Bourque and if he’s out there chasing him around it’s a big advantage to the Habs.
Still, get that pound of flesh.
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I feel like I am a parallel universe. While I am all for rough stuff and smacking Bourque around, does this make sense at all in terms of the current Cap NEEDS, i.e. puck possession, shots on goals, hustle, er…goals themselves, improved pp, etc. etc.? What possible long term and substantive gain do we get with Rechlicz ?? And then sending Eakin down? What the hell? If I am opposing coaches, I am laughing my ass off as I make up dream line assignments against Rechlicz and our current crop of can’t shoot or score gang.
I agree with most of what you said in terms of what the Caps need. But Eakin wasn’t going to address what they need and I don’t see that solution anywhere they can access in the short-term. So I’m happy with a pound of flesh.
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I am ok with a pound of flesh too…but I fear come April if we don’t make the playoffs or are out in the 1st round, we will look back at this time and wonder why $500K of cap space went down the tubes for nothing. To me the best ‘revenge’ for Nicky would be to re-balance the ship (somehow) with some strategy that, at least, as a modest chance of success: yet more line changes, AHL call-ups (desperation, admittedly), hoping Eakin can get a little MP ‘magic’ going, making a trade, whatever….anything. Rechlicz sitting on the bench or getting 5 minutes of ice has no long-term potential for, well, anything.
I think there are a lot of things people will look at before the few games Rechlicz was with the Caps.
Once you take the fisting element out, it's not romantic anymore.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 2, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
I’m thinking the point of Rechlicz for Sunday is to take Bourque out of the game for 5mins at least once.
I don’t see how the $500K is down the tubes, what else were they going to do with it? They can’t bank space. They aren’t sitting an impact player. If they miss the playoffs it’s not because of this move.
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Maybe I am missing something, but couldn’t that money/value have been used in a trade? I am sorry to have seemingly made a big deal about this, considering the larger issues of getting Ovi back on track, getting Nicky healthy, improving Fenwick, etc. etc. We are only tinkering around the margins here.
if he’s in the ahl, then his ahl salary (50k) is what counts against the cap. so if they truly needed the cap room, they’d just put him on a bus to hershey.
i’m only 83% sure the above is correct.
if you’re in the AHL, you don’t count against the NHL cap.
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Neither do I. Steve Moore lived to tell his tale.
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by Rob Parker on Feb 2, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
To go further, Joe B. disgusted me during the last game against Montreal. After Bourque had already fought, he was really jonesing for another fight. I hope they tone that shit down in the next game.
I'll have the milksteak, over hard
I didn’t find it disgusting, but awfully misplaced given the history of this club. Not that I was jonesing for a fight, but I was definitely unsatisfied with the one and only bout.
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by _Skullduggery_ on Feb 2, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Further to that: I would have loved to see more any hard hits on Bourque.
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by _Skullduggery_ on Feb 2, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
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“#Caps swing a pair of minor deals: F Matt Ford to Philly for D Kevin Marshall and D Danny Richmond to Colorado for C Mike Carman.”
What exactly are the vet rules and qualifications in the AHL?
Once you take the fisting element out, it's not romantic anymore.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 2, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
see link for details:
It’s not a roster limit in terms of carrying players, but it’s a limit in terms of which players can dress for any given game.
Can have 5 vets and one ‘tweener vet’ dress for a game; goalies excluded.
Bears were carrying 6 vets and 2 tweeners, since King was sent down. Wasn’t an issue while Potulny and Greentree were injured. Has been an issue since they returned. Bears were having to scratch 2 players every night due to the rule. One can assume they planned to scratch King (when healthy) a lot of the time anyway, but it’s an assumption.
Richmond was odd man out on D for the most part except when there were D injuries more recently.
You were quick, before I could ask what Hershey would think about the deals. You’re correct (ran to capgeek when you posted) about the ELC’s. So possibly Hershey initiated the trades?
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Never understood the Richmond signing.
Was pretty sure, but I wanted to look up Marshall’s pro seasons, seems like he’s been around longer than he has as this is only pro season #3.
Interesting trades as in both cases, Caps traded players they signed as vets this off-season for players drafted by the trade partner. In both cases, Caps/Bears got the younger player (by years).
Roster dumps by the other teams? Seems odd to give up a young player for a UFA. Unless the teams are deep at those positions and are opening up spots for 2012 graduates from junior that they feel have more upside?
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D Kevin Marshall
Add another to the list of “will get called up before Patrick McNeill.”
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"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
poor guy now gets to play to a packed house for home games and live in a city where they just give away chocolate. Poor guy.
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ooooh, then, yes, poor guy.
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Ford went to Philly though, so I think he’ll still play before large crowds. Richmond on the other hand… not so sure.
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They still draw pretty good up there.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 2, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
hmm, wondering what else is going on, did Aucoin get called up? did he get traded?
Potulny’s tweets to Aucoin make it sound like he might have been called up.
Oooh, intriguing.
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Caps could wait until tomorrow to make the recall official, but sure sounds like a recall.
And before someone asks, no, Aucoin does not need to clear re-entry waivers even though he makes more than $105,000 in the minors due to his status as a minor league vet based on the NHL CBA definition (different than the AHL vet dfn.)
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This thread is huge, but didn’t his name come up ealier today? GMGM reading the comments section? ;)
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Missed beginning of season with a broken foot.
Here's Marshall
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Whyno reports, as suspected
#Caps recall center Keith Aucoin (@coiner11), team spokesman confirms. @ryanpotulny broke the news.
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d’oh, didn’t read thoroughly above. The number of comments were daunting.
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Pretty epic in here today.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
And I was otherwise occupied much of the day. Oy.
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grrrr, trying to clarify waiver rules on twitter, grrrr
stating waivers is an issue at this time for Aucoin is just misleading/wrong
Aucoin can stay with the Caps for up to 29 days or 9 NHL GP; he’s only subject to waivers to be sent back to Hershey if he plays in 10 NHL games or stays on the roster for 30 days. Also, the Caps can manage to days counter by sending him up and down.
Also, if he’s recalled via emergency recall, the counter does not start. With Beagle healthy I doubt they can claim that right now, but that’s assuming Beagle is healthy.
Also, for now, it’s not clear this recall is for anything more than this weekend.
Keep fighting the good fight, Sk8.
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ha, one person in particular tweets at me all the time like I don’t understand the CBA; I find it amusing and annoying.
One more thing, I like Aucoin, wanted him recalled; have mentioned it even before today. Still, I don’t think this is for the long-term. He’s going to be on Hershey’s roster at the trade deadline time unless something surprising happens. See the Beagle situation last year; I find it doubtful they’d create that situation with Aucoin where he couldn’t play for Hershey in the playoffs. If they needed him via emergency recall after the deadline they could recall him or use one of the 4 recalls allowed, but I doubt they’d just keep him up, unless he plays beyond all expectations. In that case, great.






































