NHL Trade Deadline 2012: Feb 27, 3pm
by sk84fun_dc on Feb 16, 2012 11:57 AM EST
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PrintTrade Deadline: 3pm (eastern) on February 27, 2012
Working Contract Count: out of a maximum of 50 contracts
The Washington Capitals have 49 players under contract; however, Galiev and Anderson qualify for the contract slide due to their age and being assigned to juniors, so really working with 47 contracts.
(Note, Grubauer’s contract will slide, too, unless he plays in 10 NHL games this season.)
Washington Capitals Draft Pick Information
2012 draft picks
1st WAS
1st COL (from Varlamov trade)
2nd (see notes below)
3rd WAS
4th WAS
4th WPG (from Fehr trade)
5th WAS
6th WAS
7th WAS
Notes
- Add either Boston's 2nd in 2012 or Colorado's 2nd in 2013 (Washington's option) from Varlamov trade
- 2nd WAS: Traded to NJD in Arnott trade
2013 draft picks
- Rounds 1-6: WAS pick
- 7th: Depends on if they have or have not released Taylor Stefishen’s name from the reserve list; Conditionally traded to Nashville if Caps sign Taylor Stefishen by June 1, 2012 deadline
Capitals Cap Space
With 22 players (out of 23 allowed) on the active roster as of the time of this post, Backstrom on IR, plus Poti and Green on LTIR, the Caps have slightly more than $5.5M in cap space. If Green is removed from LTIR and counting Aucoin on the active roster, the cap space remaining using Poti LTIR cap space is approximately $344,000. My understanding is that there has been no cap space banked this season since Poti has been on LTIR the entire season to date.
As of now Backstrom is on IR not on LTIR. If Backstrom is put on LTIR, any trades (and call-ups) made which use some of that LTIR cap space will limit ability for Backstrom to return during the regular season. Given current lack of updates, assume it is possible they will use his LTIR space, but possible they don’t if they need to leave the room for #19 to return during the regular season. If Backstrom is put on LTIR, his cap hit of $6.7M will provide additional cap space room.
Post Trade Deadline
During the regular season, even post trade deadline, the cap maximum is still in effect. There is no cap restriction during the playoffs.
Post trade deadline, there is no active roster maximum; as long as a team stays within cap maximum rules, a team can carry more than 23 players on the active roster. There is a restriction on the number of recalls post trade deadline. Four allowed with exceptions for emergency recalls and after the AHL affiliate’s season is over.
Trade Deadline Coverage
Obviously twitter and other online coverage.
On TV on Monday, February 27, 8am-6pm eastern time (and more continuing into the evening): In Canada, TSN; In US, NHL Network showing TSN coverage from 8-6; for others, I assume online is your best source. For more information on the US NHLN coverage, puckthemedia blog entry
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As usual with sk84fun_dc’s excellent and informative posts, we kindly request that you hit the rec star so we can pin this post to the top. Thanks!
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by EmilyB on Feb 16, 2012 12:55 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Im still saying if the other teams agree, these are the trades we should make
Schultz and Vokoun to Chicago for a 1st round pick and a prospect around 8 on their top prospects.
Semin, and Knuble/Halpern to the Kings for a 1st.
That way you could use some of your first round picks as trade bait to get that 2C we have been needing for so long
MOAR SEVERINO!
@awalker138-I have joined the twitters
Not happening. Caps are going for a playoff push.
by Gin and Tonic on Feb 16, 2012 7:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Could you not include a Semin trade as part of a playoff push, provided you either get or use the return to get a good player? But no, not holding my breath.
It isn’t even anger-inducing. It does not seem to be worth that kind of emotional investment. It might not even be disappointing any more. It is expected.
-Peerless 5.6.2011
Update:
Green off of LTIR
Aucoin back to Hershey
as of 2/19:
Active Roster count: 22 players
IR: Backstrom
LTIR: Poti
Cap space available
- With Green off of LTIR and Aucoin sent back to Hershey
- By my math, using my numbers and checking against CapGeek, approximately $840,000 in cap space available; however, assuming CapGeek’s information is accurate that a portion of Orlov’s performance bonus is no longer attainable that figure increases to approximately $950,000 available.
Pretty close to CapGeek’s numbers in a tweet from last night: “Updated deadline numbers for #NHL #Capitals with Green back. ~$480k with Aucoin up, ~$1m with Aucoin down, $7.2m-$7.7m if Backstrom to LTI.”
(Thanks for the recs and the kind words)
In related news, as expected base on past seasons, the AHL Clear Day Roster deadline is a week after the NHL trade deadline.
“CLEAR DAY SET … With the NHL’s trade deadline approaching on Feb. 27 (3 p.m. ET), the AHL’s Clear Day deadline, when all 30 teams must submit their 22-man Clear Day lists, is set for Monday, Mar. 5, at 3 p.m. ET.
Only those players included on a team’s Clear Day list are eligible to compete in the remainder of the AHL regular season and in the 2012 Calder Cup Playoffs, unless emergency conditions arise as a result of recall, injury or suspension. Teams may also add signed junior players or players on amateur tryout contracts, but only once their respective junior or college seasons are complete."
It relates to the players who can play for the AHL affiliate after the CDR (clear day roster) is submitted and approved by the AHL for the remainder of the regular season and the playoffs. It’s not a big deal given the flexibility allowed with the current rules and the number of players currently on Hershey’s roster, but thought it was worth noting, it’s still a week later than the trade deadline.
For the AHL, it’s like the NHL trade deadline. The Capitals/Bears have already made some trades for the AHL roster this season, but it is the deadline for bringing in players from outside the organization via trade. As noted, team can still bring in players on amateur tryout contracts.
There is plenty of flexibility to play players not on the CDR, due to call-ups, injuries, and junior players, but some AHL teams can be impacted by the deadline (the NHL and AHL deadlines), especially if due to injuries. You will see some movement with NHL teams making up and down assignments to have players qualify to be on the AHL CDR.
Also, due to the current rules, some players can end up being ineligible if called up to the NHL and then suffering an injury. This happened to a couple of Pens players last season, to players who otherwise would have been sent down and placed on the AHL CDR.
For the Capitals/Bears last season, the Capitals chose not to re-assign Beagle and therefore, he wasn’t eligible for the AHL CDR and stayed on the Caps roster for the remainder of the season.
by sk84fun_dc on Feb 21, 2012 7:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So basicly, if a player isnt eligible for the CDR, they are no longer eligible to be sent down to the AHL from the parent club, and its the AHL trade deadline. Thanks!
MOAR SEVERINO!
Is it the player is not eligible to play in the AHL at all the rest of the season, or are they just not eligible for the AHL playoffs? I seem to remember it was mostly a big deal because it affected which players could compete for the Calder Cup.
Rest of season once CDRs go into effect, but there are plenty of exceptions: junior and NCAA players signed to ATOs can play after their junior/NCAA seasons are done; players in residence (on AHL roster, not on CDR) can play when injuries and call-ups open up a roster spot.
So, I wonder what the Caps plan to do about Orlov — on the off chance the Bears make the playoffs and the Caps don’t. (Or the Bears make it further than the Caps?)
Rocking the Red for teams on the banks of the Potomac and at the Gateway Arch and Singing the Blues about Hockey.
Orlov doesn’t require waivers at this time so if the Caps want him to have that experience they can make a paper move (he doesn’t have to play any games) to qualify him for the roster. Then, he would be on the CDR and on recall and it also offers Hershey more flexibility. I think they could do it this weekend so that it doesn’t count as one of the 4 recalls, but I don’t recall all the details about this part and it’s not all available.
They did that for Carlson in 2010 from what I remember. One thing though is that not all the AHL and CDR qualification rules are public in terms of qualifying for the CDR. There is a rule of some type related to number of games played in the AHL, but it’s not many games from what I remember from a past situation; it impacted Green one year, they sent him down to play a few games to ensure he could be on the 06-07 CDR, but he only played 12 AHL games that year.
Sellers
With what I have seen from this team the last season and a half it is time to be sellers. Semin, Knuble, Hammer, Vokoun, Wideman could all be moved for prospects and picks to assist in a rebuild while competing. Most will not be back next year.
by CapsFanSince1979 on Feb 22, 2012 11:09 PM EST reply actions
Note regarding King and not being put on re-entry waivers yesterday; the last day to be able to be put on re-entry waivers and to clear before the noon deadline on Monday. The Capitals can still place him on re-entry waivers and recall him post trade deadline if that is what they choose to do. If that happened, it would be unlikely he’d be claimed, if it was ever likely, which I doubt.
After the trade deadline, if a player is placed on re-entry waivers, they aren’t expected to be claimed because after the trade deadline (especially if on the last year of their contract) if another team claims the player, he can’t play for that team during the regular season or the playoffs for the remainder of that season. However, King could play for the Caps in that scenario. Caps have done this before with Laing and Collins when they needed reinforcements.
The NHL would only approve a trade which adds more cap space than they have available (after whatever cap hit goes the other direction) if Backstrom was placed on LTIR to allow for that additional cap space.
If they aren’t adding more cap space than they have available (after whatever cap hit goes the other direction) then no need to put him on LTIR.
Rob Parker’s Post “Many Happy Returns” re. what kind of return for Caps’ UFAs-to-be
Trade Deadline – Morning Update:
- Aucoin assigned to the AHL (on Sunday), which opens up the cap space (512,500 full year cap hit) and a contract slot
- Backstrom has been placed on LTIR, so an additional 6.7M in cap space can be used to acquire a player without sending out a contract
Caps currently have approximately 7.6M in cap space and at least 1 contract slot to work with (pre trade deadline), including the assumption that they expect Backstrom to miss the remainder of the regular season (assumed based on being put on LTIR today that is what they expect)
Thanks for all the updates! After reading lots of opinions, it seems like placing Nicky on LTIR is telegraphing a determination to make the playoffs by making some significant moves. If they are determined to make the playoffs, why would they move Semin or Wideman? I know they are both out the door (probably) this summer, but haven’t they both been two of the most reliable point producers this season? I read everyone’s opinions and understand I am a novice, but moving those two just doesn’t seem intuitive to me if your goal is to make the playoffs…
Centers
So who do you guys want. It seems to me with Nick on LTIR, The Caps are going for another center to fill in now. And if Nick can come back for the playoffs, We could be even better.
Roy
Gaustad
Phalsson
Van Riemsdyk- Doubt we would trade with the Flyers.
Why not the Flyers?
They gave us Carlson (via draft) for Eminger. I’d be calling them up in a heartbeat…
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