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Saturday Caps Clips: Happy National Hockey Card Day

WASHINGTON, DC - FEBRUARY 09:  Alex Ovechkin #8 of the Washington Capitals reacts to a call during the game against the Winnipeg Jets at the Verizon Center on February 9, 2012 in Washington, DC.  (Photo by Greg Fiume/Getty Images)

Your savory breakfast links:

  • No, really. It's National Hockey Card Day. The shoebox next to my desk rejoices. [NHL.com, Facebook, Upper Deck]
  • With the Caps off yesterday, we were left to stew over that stunning loss to Winnipeg... [WashTimes (and again)]
  • A quick look ahead to tomorrow's game against the Rangers. [NHL.com]
  • Power plays are down League-wide and close to home. [Dump 'n Chase, NHL.com]
  • Does Mike Knuble have anything left in the tank? Can we really know, given how he's being deployed? [WaPo, CSNW]
  • Either way, are his days in D.C. numbered? [CSNW, PHT]
  • As for acquisitions that could be a fit here in Washington, Steve Ott would look good in red (but you might want to ask Jason Chimera for his thoughts first). [KOL, with more deadline thoughts at RtR]
  • Karl Alzner did his weekly hit with LaVar Arrington and Chad Dukes and talked a bit about that Jets game (and, presumably unintentionally, refers to them as Atlanta). [106.7 The Fan (audio)]
  • While we're talking 106.7 The Fan, they keep supporting hockey, new media and this site, as evidenced by the fact that they put me on the air with Chad and LaVar Thursday (listen here) and will be putting me on again with Danny Rouhier at 2:00 this afternoon. Support them by giving a listen when you can.
  • Pictures from Caps Care Casino Night (a.k.a. photographic evidence that hockey players have atrocious taste in beer). [RMNB, DSP]
  • And speaking of support, Defending The Blue Line can always use yours. [Capitals Outsider]
  • The Bears prepared to face a familiar, uh, face... [Patriot-News]
  • ... then took him down in the only kind of Syracuse loss we like to see around here. [Patriot-News, SHOE]
  • Finally, happy 35th birthday, Dwayne Hay (and yes, we got a little over-excited and wished him a happy birthday yesterday, but can you blame us? I mean, Dwayne Hay, y'all!).

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Karl Alzner did his weekly hit with LaVar Arrington and Chad Dukes and talked a bit about that Jets game (and, presumably unintentionally, refers to them as Atlanta).

I think you mean ‘wistfully’.

by David Getz on Feb 11, 2012 8:46 AM EST reply actions  

Whoa, celebrity sighting!

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by Bald Pollack on Feb 11, 2012 8:56 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

“Atlanta” = Getzbait

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by J.P. on Feb 11, 2012 9:20 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Re the RMNB pictures of casino night: Brooks Laich’s chin could change a tire by itself, and it probably broke his stick the other night.

It's all wrong, but it's all right.

by OldPhil on Feb 11, 2012 8:53 AM EST reply actions  

Can you believe that the dealers didn’t wear red bowties … I was supposed to deal that event. Boo on the casino company

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by TheFuryUnleashed on Feb 11, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s a long way from Pronger and Bergeron, isn’t it?

Good to see.

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by fat_daddyo on Feb 11, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Without clicking through, I’m going to guess Bud Light and/or Heineken.

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by fat_daddyo on Feb 11, 2012 9:50 AM EST reply actions  

Correct and correct. Plus a lot of Corona.

by Twenty Seven Ninety on Feb 11, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Bleh, bleh and bleh.

Side Note: I had a pint of Iniquity Imperial Black Ale yesterday. New favorite. Black as sin and twice as seductive.

If you can find it, worth trying.

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by fat_daddyo on Feb 11, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Good stuff, but I actually prefer Clown Shoes Hoppy Feet 1.5, Black IPA’s are one of my favorite styles.

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by Doncosmic on Feb 12, 2012 2:36 AM EST up reply actions  

sounds like standard hotel cash bar stuff

by kingbonehead on Feb 11, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

z

Gormley is a piece of work.

By making Knuble a healthy scratch on Thursday night, coach Dale Hunter ran the risk of not only alienating his veteran winger, but dividing his locker room. And that could mean a quick deal is in the works for Knuble, who is on a one-year, $2 million deal.

Um, OK. It could just as easily not be the case, but whatever.

But if the Capitals packaged Knuble in a trade that included defenseman Jeff Schultz and a draft pick or a prospect, could they get what they really need – a gritty second-line forward like Tampa’s Dominic Moore or Carolina’s Tuomo Ruutu or maybe the Islanders’ P.A. Parenteau, each of whom are expected to be available as rentals?

Not even sure where to begin here. Ruutu is staying put, no? Schultz and a pick for Dom Moore, huh? And what the hell, we’ll throw in Knuble. For a rental.

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by fat_daddyo on Feb 11, 2012 10:07 AM EST reply actions  

The Fail is strong in that one.

by Langway on Feb 11, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

The worst part is PHT picking that up and running it with the “Mike Knuble’s days in Washington may be numbered” headline based solely off of Gormley’s article. horrible

by Beakers Lab on Feb 11, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

PHT and CSN are both part of the NBC empire, so that’s why you see a lot of that linked.

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Feb 11, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

The Official Media Partner™ of the NHL for the next 9.5 years or so. Get used to it.

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by EmilyB on Feb 11, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

if they are linking to quality articles I have no issue with it. Linking to rumor mongering that has no sources other than “Knuble was a healthy scratch” is annoying.

by Beakers Lab on Feb 11, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

The rumor-mongering on Knuble is getting louder. Kerstein was running with it just now.

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Feb 11, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

if they have some sources behind it then I have no issue with it. The problem I have is that Gormley didn’t quote anyone and went with a whole lot of speculation and sensationalism .

by Beakers Lab on Feb 11, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s ridiculous. However, I do think Moore wouldn’t be a terrible acquisition for the Capitals.

by RCheli on Feb 11, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

He wouldn’t be a terrible acquisition, but aside from the absurdity of the proposed price of getting him, Moore is also not a good 2C.

Release the Mackan!

by Killer_Carlson on Feb 11, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, he’d be an upgrade on some of our depth but that’s not this team’s problem.

Please, call me F&B.

by Rob Parker on Feb 11, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

The thing about Moore is that I think he can play 2C, 3C, and 4C. Now obviously he’s mostly a 3C (and Laich is set in that situation), but he plays smart enough hockey, has been through the playoffs many times, and has been traded so many times that he can adjust to new teammates well enough.

by RCheli on Feb 11, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

The Caps have tried those “maybe he’s a 2C but he should be a 3C” players on the 2nd line for a while now. Moore doesn’t provide any improvement on the 2C over what they have been doing, so he doesn’t solve that problem.

Release the Mackan!

by Killer_Carlson on Feb 11, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Regarding the bad taste in beer comment – you realize that’s probably outside the control of the attendees at a sponsored event, right? Either the location is controlling the spirits served, or there could be a corporate sponsor involved. You’re not there for the food and drink, and every event like this I’ve ever been at, it’s been a good thing that expectations were low.

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Feb 11, 2012 10:25 AM EST reply actions  

Regarding the bad taste in beer comment – you realize that’s probably outside the control of the attendees at a sponsored event, right?

’Twas a little joke, not meant to be taken too seriously.

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by J.P. on Feb 11, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

and still — there’s no excuse for Ovi drinking Bud Lite when there’s Corona in the house

Hey, atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Feb 11, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

He’s conscious of his weight.

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by fat_daddyo on Feb 11, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Ovi doesn’t want to be fat.

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by Bman21212 on Feb 11, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

This, completely. I likely have poor taste in beer, but even I know that Bud Light is swill.

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by gfcaps fan on Feb 11, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Disagree, I’ll drink a Bud Light before I go for that Mexican piss water. Heineken was the best of the bunch in the picks, IMO.

Release the Mackan!

by Killer_Carlson on Feb 11, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugh. I’d much rather something that tastes vaguely like lime-ade when you add an eighth of a lime. At least Corona knows what it is. Hiney-can pretends to actually be beer, but isn’t.

Hey, atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Feb 11, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree. Corona is overpriced and pretentious douches tend to drink it, but as a garden variety pilsner it’s mostly inoffensive.

Heineken is gross.

Bud Light is for women and children.

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by fat_daddyo on Feb 11, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

And people playing children’s drinking games.

Please, call me F&B.

by Rob Parker on Feb 11, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

If you have add a lime to mask the nasty flavor and make it somewhat drinkable then it’s not a beer.

Teach their own, but I don’t find Heineken as bad as some do, and Bud Light is watered down crap, but at least it doesn’t taste completely nasty.

Release the Mackan!

by Killer_Carlson on Feb 11, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

We can all agree that Coors Light is the thinking man’s light beer. It let’s you know when it’s cold!

Please, call me F&B.

by Rob Parker on Feb 11, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Heineken is crap. Dad would be ashamed.

Please, call me F&B.

by Rob Parker on Feb 11, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

The guy who regularly drinks Heineken Light would be ashamed?

Plus, I didn’t say Heineken was good. I said it was better than Bud Light and Corona. That’s not exactly putting it up for any awards.

Release the Mackan!

by Killer_Carlson on Feb 11, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Well it’s no PBR.

Heineken Light is much better than Heineken.

Please, call me F&B.

by Rob Parker on Feb 11, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Whatever, your tastebuds just aren’t refined enough for Heineken. It’s got this awesome rare ingredient that you’ve probably never even heard of.

Release the Mackan!

by Killer_Carlson on Feb 11, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

You and Tim Thomas can enjoy your Heineken. I’ll drink good beer.

Please, call me F&B.

by Rob Parker on Feb 11, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

He was actual drinking Amstel Light, from what I could see. Not vastly better, but not Bud Light.

by Aliceanna on Feb 11, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Worlds better, in my opinion. I’ll drink Amstel if its free…

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by Gould Old Days on Feb 11, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I wasn’t, but I suspect plenty of folks here aren’t familiar with fundraising events.

There’s always the possibility they like it too. ;)

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by gfcaps fan on Feb 11, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Ovi buys Corona for his home, and yes I think he actually likes is. Bud Light is the corporate sponsor of a bunch of Caps’ events. Poor John Carlson had to “celebrate” his 21st birthday standing on the bar at RFD and drinking a Bud Light. At RFD.

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by EmilyB on Feb 11, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, I think Corona is okay, but you can’t trust my beer tastes. If I say I like Labatt Blue, am I in trouble?

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Feb 11, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

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by highslot84 on Feb 11, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Unlike the rest of American 21 year olds that aren’t pro athletes, and have to celebrate their 21st by paying for Beast Light, plastic bottle booze, or retail prices at a bar. Poor Carlson.

Please, call me F&B.

by Rob Parker on Feb 11, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Still, considering he can easily afford them, being surrounded by the good stuff at RFD must have been annoying.

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by Doncosmic on Feb 12, 2012 2:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Beautiful day here at Kettler. Mike Green is practicing with the team :)

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by bagace on Feb 11, 2012 10:41 AM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

And he left : (

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by bagace on Feb 11, 2012 10:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

that didn’t take long.

by Beakers Lab on Feb 11, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Was he doing drills, or just skating in circles?

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by fat_daddyo on Feb 11, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah he was fully participating, doing the drills with the rest of them

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by bagace on Feb 11, 2012 11:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

My math says he’s still likely at least a week away from getting into a game. All I see is good news.

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by gfcaps fan on Feb 11, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Wise aside, I’ve enjoyed 106.7. Rouhier is a class act. Have fun :D

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by winterion on Feb 11, 2012 10:54 AM EST reply actions  

Is there a run down of the dads making the trip to NYC? I have seen or heard a mention of Ovi’s dad, Backstrom’s dad, Brooks’ dad, Aucoin’s dad, Brouwer’s father-in-law, and Ward’s brother making the trip this year. I think I have read in the past about Carlson, Alzner, and Schultz’ dads making the trip. Any word on Orlov, Wideman, Neuvy, Johannson, or Hendrick’s dads?

by KSR17 on Feb 11, 2012 11:42 AM EST reply actions  

I think Chimera’s dad was at the game on Thursday because he was doing the trip.

by Beakers Lab on Feb 11, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Knuble’s brother was pictured with him at Casino night, so I assume he’s going on the trip. Backstrom’s brother is in NYC as well.

by vtcapsfan99 on Feb 11, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ve heard Johansson’s dad will be there. Have no idea about the rest of the guys mentioned.

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by CapsFan75 on Feb 11, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

The Swedes beat the Russians 4-1 in the second match of the “Sweden Games” round of the Euro Hockey Tour.

The officials called a bunch of penalties in this game, and Tre Kronor scored three of their four goals on the PP. Russia also scored its lone goal on the PP.

Kuznetsov did not factor in the scoring, or the penalties.

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by EmilyB on Feb 11, 2012 1:06 PM EST reply actions  

Sjogren played in that game as well. Hopefully Malin can give an update.

by vtcapsfan99 on Feb 11, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, here’s his stat list for the last five games played for Tre Kronor.

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by EmilyB on Feb 11, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

And here’s Kuzya’s last five games (for the men’s national team, not the junior team.)

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by EmilyB on Feb 11, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

The short version is that the guy with the fourth-line upside completely owned the the future star of the franchise. Sjöa’s line with Calle Järnkrok and Jakob Silfverberg was matched against Kuznatsov’s line a lot and they did a really good job of keeping him hemmed in the Russian D zone.

by Malin A on Feb 11, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Swedish version of Weaver?

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by Bman21212 on Feb 11, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

The short version is that the guy with the fourth-line upside completely owned the the future star of the franchise. Sjöa’s line with Calle Järnkrok and Jakob Silfverberg was matched against Kuznatsov’s line a lot and they did a really good job of keeping him hemmed in the Russian D zone.

by Malin A on Feb 11, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

In reference to the National Hockey Card Day, does anyone know any shops in the area participating? The shop that I normally go to didn’t even know what I was talking about, so I was slightly disappointed (C&C Sports Cards and Comics in Gaithersburg, in case you were wondering). The only other “local” shop that I know of closed about 6 months ago (Burton’s in Frederick, also in case you were wondering).

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by capsfan4life on Feb 11, 2012 1:14 PM EST reply actions  

Does Upper Deck have a card shop locator tool?

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by EmilyB on Feb 11, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Listening to JP’s dulcet tones on the radio while streaming the Cats-Devils and watching the Jets-Pens. I am on hockey overload.

by Aliceanna on Feb 11, 2012 2:12 PM EST reply actions  

Go Devils (grrr, I see FLA is ahead). Go Pens (ugh, but Winnipeg is the greater evil at the moment).

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Feb 11, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate having to root for the Devils and Pens, but there’s nothing to be done for it. Stupid Cats scoring. Whenever I want a despised team to win to help us out, they don’t. I think they’re doing it out of spite.

Dammit, Jets just scored.

by Aliceanna on Feb 11, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Bad period for the Devils, but hopefully they rebound in the third.

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by fat_daddyo on Feb 11, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be nice. And it would be nice if the Pens weren’t just rolling over to the fucking Jets.

by Aliceanna on Feb 11, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Can’t believe I’m watching NJD/FLA and not Philly/NYR, which I’m sure is a much more entertaining game…but the rooting interest, you know.

The ’Peg is going nowhere. Let ’em beat up on Pitt.

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by fat_daddyo on Feb 11, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah you say that, until they overtake the Caps. I’d like to keep the SE race to 2 teams, if possible.

by Aliceanna on Feb 11, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

And it looks like the Pens just figured Pavelec out.

by Aliceanna on Feb 11, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope. Won’t root for the Pens. Don’t care who they’re playing.

Hey, atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Feb 11, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I set up an OT post for all the billion games today: http://www.japersrink.com/2012/2/11/2792101/ot-hockey-2-11

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by boutros23 on Feb 11, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

"The Eternal Optimist"

Nice job on 106.7 J.P.

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by Carl Putnam on Feb 11, 2012 2:16 PM EST reply actions  

Is this the bizarro world?

by ralCapsFan on Feb 11, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh. Thanks. And sorry for my voice – fighting a cold.

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by J.P. on Feb 11, 2012 4:31 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

No offense…just busting your chops.

by ralCapsFan on Feb 11, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

You sounded fine to me.

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by Carl Putnam on Feb 11, 2012 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Roenick’s article is hardly analysis. Why exactly does every team need a singular identity? That’s a stupid and antiquated notion, I think. Can anyone honestly pin an identity on every one of the 30 teams? I can think of a few…Detroit: puck possession team, Boston: hard forechecking/cycling team, the New York Rangers: consistently bailed out by great goaltending, Vancouver: good at everything, Florida: spare parts. Am I forgetting anything?

To me it’s the pundits clamoring for the run’n’gun 09-10 Caps, the same ones who slammed them for being run’n’gun.

Also, Brooks’ girlfriend…wow, go Brooks.

by David C. Rothman on Feb 11, 2012 2:19 PM EST reply actions  

I agree that the “identity” stuff is mostly narrative, but the Rangers are much better than you give them credit for.

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by Rob Parker on Feb 11, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Rob’s right. Their defense and penalty kill are excellent. They may not be the flashiest team around, but they are quite effective.

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by Carl Putnam on Feb 11, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

And the game with the Flyers today has been fun to watch. I’m going to the game tomorrow, and I’m fully prepared for the Rags to wax the Caps.

Please, call me F&B.

by Rob Parker on Feb 11, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

They also have more offensive depth than the Caps. Where are the Caps the better team? Maybe if you compare 100% healthy defensive units.

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by Rob Parker on Feb 11, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Agrre on the offensive depth issue as well. The addition of Richards combined with Anisimov, Stepan, and Hagelin’s play has made them tougher to defend. Scary part is how young they are.

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by Carl Putnam on Feb 11, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh it wasn’t meant to give the Rangers less credit… it was to illustrate the point that no one team really has one defining identity or characteristic. They have always been great defensively…that said they wouldn’t be at the top of the standings without Henrik.

by David C. Rothman on Feb 11, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

They’re hard working and they play a simple game. I’d make that the narrative over the Lundqvist thing.

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by Rob Parker on Feb 11, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but that narrative gets applied to like 90% of good teams over the years.

Release the Mackan!

by Killer_Carlson on Feb 11, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Imagine that. Good teams win puck battles.

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by Rob Parker on Feb 11, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

that said they wouldn’t be at the top of the standings without Henrik.

Definitely. The first month or so their skaters were awful. But since then, and especially since Mitchell and Hagelin got called up, they’ve been well above average in that respect, and Lundqvist makes them an elite team.

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by red army line on Feb 11, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Since it's NHCD

I recently came into possession of a handful of cards from 1975 and 1976. One of them is particularly odd and I’m wondering if any Hockeycard-o-philes can provide an explanation. The player is identified as Pierre Larouche and his team as the Penguins. The accompanying photo, however, seems to feature someone in a Caps uni (the name could be “Larouche” but is hard to make out) playing against what appear to be players in the blue Pens sweaters. It is a 1975 Topps card and lists his one year on the reverse as playing for Pittsburgh. Apologies if this is heading down “Save this for some other site” Street.

by Acer Jonesy's Laughker on Feb 11, 2012 2:23 PM EST reply actions  

Interesting Article on Hunter at nhl.com

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=616264

That shows up in how they deal with the media, but the players also confirmed it as well. Boudreau’s heart-on-the-sleeve passion could be infectious, but there may have been times — especially during a long playoff series — where some of the Capitals might have responded better to a more even-keeled approach.

“Bruce would come into the dressing room and talk for 5-to-10 minutes to tell us what he is thinking and show us graphs and break down the stats,” Washington defenseman Karl Alzner said. “Dale’s not really that type of guy. It is pretty cut and dry. It is a simple game. He shows you what you did wrong on video and he quickly explains it. It is, ‘You should have stayed with the guy here,’ and, ‘You should have chipped the puck out,’ and, ‘There is no play here, so dump it.’ That’s all he says, and you’ve got to figure it out. He knows we should all be smart enough to figure it out and that’s what we’ve done wrong and fix it. He just says it like it is and you’ve got to figure it out, change it and (if) you don’t … he changes it for you.”

by kovachs on Feb 11, 2012 3:07 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t understand how “figure it out” jives with being a teacher. They seem antithetical to me. Also, J.P. has talked a lot about how BB’s emotional style tended to create panic, and I think that may be corroborated in the article.

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by Rob Parker on Feb 11, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

It is. Corey’s perspective makes Hunter seem like my type of coach and, honestly, the way I used to coach. There are good wins and bad wins. There are good losses and bad losses. A coach has to be even keeled all the time and to hold the team responsible for their actions. A coach has to respect that these are intelligent young men who understand their job.

I like it.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 11, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I like the attitude and the even keeled nature. I’m concerned whether he has what it takes to coach a successful NHL team.

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by Rob Parker on Feb 11, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

What do you think might be missing? I think it’s too early to tell. Ask me this time next year.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 11, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he deserves more time for sure, you’ve been beating that drum since before Hunter was even hired and it’s hard to disagree given all the context. But the quotes from Knuble about where the shots are going to come from when they play their normal score-tied system are troubling.

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by Rob Parker on Feb 11, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

The only thing I can fall back on is time. I’m not necessarily a big DH supporter, but I just think it’s too early to judge. Sorry I can’t offer more.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 11, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know what else there is to offer. You can’t bring up a coach with no NHL experience and say “dominate now” so I think time is the real response.

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by Rob Parker on Feb 11, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Not unless he’s coaching the 50’s/60’s Habs, late 70’s Islanders or Gretzyky’s Oilers.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 11, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

That was truly my hangup about Hunter as coach — no experience coaching a professional team at any level, not even ECHL or AHL. I recall how many fans wondered if Boudreau had had the proper background to coach an NHL team being as his experience was coaching AHL teams. Hunter’s experience sounded like less.

Aside from Hunter being a former star Caps player as an attraction, I’m sure one of the things they considered was that he’s a very opposite personality of Boudreau and the management figures they need someone different than Bruce.

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by CapsFan75 on Feb 11, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

If GMGM expected massive improvement off the cuff with the selection of this coach then it was definitely a very poor choice.

If he expected more accountability and more responsibility, then he would/should have expected more individual f’ups by players as the direct immediate result. With the long term result being what i think he was looking for: A more solid playoff team/consistency.

I expect continued systems/individual improvement, so to me the health of the roster is now the primary concern, regardless of the coach. IMO

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by Icebat on Feb 11, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I should add, that if GMGM thought they had just stopped listening to Bruce,
if he thought that there were personality issues,
if he decided Bruce was just too emo (Emo Bruce.jpg?)

then he would have gotten a run-and-gun replacement.

Regardless of the individual selected/his experience/whether he pans out or not, GM went out and got the System he thought the Caps needed. Over the run-and-gun.

I’d be a fool to say this or any system is perfect tho.

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by Icebat on Feb 11, 2012 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

There are interesting quotes throughout the piece.

“I don’t think our record has been crazy since he’s been here, but it has been better,” said defenseman John Carlson, one of two Capitals to have played for Hunter in London. “The way we feel about how we’re playing sometimes is way better. We’ve had some major lapses, and some lulls, but I think everyone believes more in this system and day-by-day is getting more used to it.”

by kovachs on Feb 11, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it’s too early to tell.

One thing that I think is under-discussed is Hunter’s learning curve. We spend plenty of time talking about whether or not the team has his system figured out, that it’s going to take some time, etc., but we very rarely mention the learning curve for a CHL coach transitioning to the NHL. I’m sure that’s part of what was underlying the trepidation about the hire, initially, but it’s not as if he got here, threw down his game plan and is done. He has to learn what works and what doesn’t, borrow from what he sees elsewhere, etc.

To compare him to Ken Hitchcock or Bruce Boudreau is unfair. Those guys have tons of recent, applicable NHL experience. Hunter has none. So you’ve got to give him time (not to mention an off-/pre-season and a chance to get “his kind of players,” whatever that means).

(On a sidenote, this is one of the reasons I was opposed to the hire initially – because I’m impatient and favored a quick fix. Given this team’s current roster and salary commitments now and on the horizon, I don’t think that was irrational.)

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by J.P. on Feb 11, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That brings up something I personally find interesting.

Lets pretend we’re GMGM. We know we want a system similar to the one Dale Hunter gives us.
At the time Dale Hunter was hired.

I am genuinely curious: what were his options, on the day Dale was hired?

Because I think a lot of us would have preferred a guy w/ NHL experience. And successful experience at that.

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by Icebat on Feb 12, 2012 3:51 AM EST up reply actions  

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PHOTO: #Caps forward Jeff Halpern at a young age suited up in Caps gear. – http://wshca.ps/AkPaYx

totally adorable

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Feb 11, 2012 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

Also, a little younger from the same source;

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Feb 11, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

did he play for Bowie, in those old North Stars colors? Blue pants were Wheaton. he grew up in Potomac.

by Tommy Williams on Feb 11, 2012 5:14 PM EST reply actions  

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