Saturday Caps Clips: Caps @ Sharks Game Day
by J.P. on Jan 7, 2012 7:44 AM EST
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Your savory breakfast links:
- Previews of tonight's swim in the Shark Tank from Vogs, NHL.com, WashTimes, WaPo, SB Nation DC, Peerless, hockey yelling and CRtC, and be sure to check out the San Jose Mercury News (not cool, Bruce) and our SB Nation partner Fear The Fin for more coverage from the other side of tonight's match-up.
- Notes and assorted whatnot from yesterday's practice way out west:
- In general. [Caps365 video (Hunter, Backstrom, Johansson), Dump 'n Chase]
- Nicklas Backstrom should be good to go tonight. [WashTimes]
- He and Marcus Johansson also felt pretty good about Sweden's victory over Russia on Thursday night... [WashTimes, WaPo]
- ... but no Tre Kronor for the captain at pracky. [Alex Ovetjkin]
- Alexander Semin is also ready to play. But, uh, will he? [WashTimes]
- In general. [Caps365 video (Hunter, Backstrom, Johansson), Dump 'n Chase]
- Remember when the NHL was going to realign and put the Caps back in a grouping with their old Patrick Division brethren? Not so fast, my friend. [WaPo, Puck Daddy, DCEx]
- Dmitri Orlov is developing well on and off the ice. [WaPo]
- As we were discussing on Wednesday, blocked shots are up... which isn't necessarily great news. [WaPo, CSNW]
- San Jose is preparing for a resurgent Alex Ovechkin. Fear the Alex, Fins. [San Jose Mercury News]
- Everyone's got their breaking point, with me it's spiders. With Mike Knuble it's... let's not find out. [CSNW]
- Karl Alzner did his weekly hit with LaVar and Dukes yesterday. [106.7 The Fan (audio)]
- The Caps have been a big story in the first half of the season. (Here's to a boring-but-successful second half.) [Globe and Mail]
- Maybe the second half of the season will feature a fantasy-tastic Sasha Semin. Maybe. [NHL.com]
- There was a time that Dean Evason had absolutely amazing hair. [Capitals Voice]
- Like Omar, Caps comin', yo. [Hockey Primetime]
- A handy guide to what's terrible this week. [hockey yelling]
- The Bears and Phantoms took to the ice outdoors at Citizens Bank Park last night, and there's plenty of simply fantastic coverage of the day and night from Tim Leone, Sweetest Hockey on Earth and PA Puck. So click through and lose yourself for a while.
- Evgeny Kuznetsov impressed at the World Juniors. Like, a lot. [ESPN ($)]
- The story of Garrett Haar. [Slightly Chilled]
- On fighting, but, really, on trying to quantify that which doesn't lend itself to quantification. [Peerless]
- Finally, happy 56th birthday to Mike Liut, happy 46th to Randy Burridge, and happy 40th to Donald Brashear.
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So Gabby presumably tried to give the Sharks coaching staff some inside information eh? What’s wrong coach, pissed that your old team is doing better than your new team?
Still mad he got fired, I expect,
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by TheFuryUnleashed on Jan 7, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
I’m going to guess that (past player tendencies) he may not have that much to give. Maybe he’s repaying a favor McLellan did for him in the past. Shit happens.
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by Bald Pollack on Jan 7, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
Sharks: “You got the goods.”
Gabby: “Yeah. I got what you want.”
[Sharks Exec slidding over box]
Gabby: “What? No Boston Creams?!?! F$#$ what is this S*%t!”
Sharks: “You’ll get it once we confirm the usefulness of your information.”
[Gabby slides over a DVD video of last seasons playoff series debacle]
Gabby: “Remember, I was never here…”
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by J.P. on Jan 7, 2012 11:03 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I hope the NHLPA loses every point of contention in the CBA negotiations. Fuck Donald Fehr and the horse he rode in on. And fuck those whiny douche players that vetoed realignment. You get to play hockey for a living. You get paid millions for it. If you have a 10 day road trip, tough shit, you’ll get over it. People who get paid less have to take longer road trips to much assier locations to keep food on the table and a roof over the heads of their families. You live a pretty sweet life. You get paid millions and you don’t even have to pay for food on the road, you probably get a better per diem than anyone else out there. Suck it up and deal with it, because this realignment is better for the league, it is better for the current sport, and it is better for the future of the sport.
Also, fuck you Eric Staal. Don’t whine because you were getting taken out of a weak division and put in a very tough one.
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by renstar on Jan 7, 2012 10:09 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
I feel the NHLPA could have used their agreement to realignment as leverage to get more of what they wanted in the CBA talks, but instead they threw a hissy fit. Shame
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by JediChewbacca on Jan 7, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
I think using their agreement to realignment as leverage to get more of what they want in the CBA is exactly what the union is doing. Good on them.
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I was looking at it in more of a you scratch our back, we’ll scratch yours kind of way
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by JediChewbacca on Jan 7, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
I see your point, but I’m not sure how much trust is there, and the union has to feel they were railroaded on this in the first place.
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The “Union” can fuck off in my view. People who bust their asses in unions their whole lives should be insulted there even exists a players union. Don’t want to play under the new re-alignment plan? Fuck off and go play in Europe.
It isn’t even anger-inducing. It does not seem to be worth that kind of emotional investment. It might not even be disappointing any more. It is expected.
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considering how much the owners took advantage of the players before a union existed, the union is a net positive. Since the NHL gets an anti-trust waiver, a union is needed to balance that. The union has been a mess in the past, but still better than nothing.
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by Bman21212 on Jan 7, 2012 4:06 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
This is among the most ridiculous comments in the history of this blog. Kudos.
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by J.P. on Jan 7, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 12 recs
Yeah, I disagree. The owners came up with their plan, puffed their chests out and said, “This is how it ’s gonna be!”
Why should the players simply rubber stamp it?
It sucks for what it portends, but I can’t be angry at the union for (finally) sticking up for itself. You want something, you give something – that’s how collective bargaining negotiations work.
I also think your rant is way off base in a number of ways, but that’s neither here nor there.
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I think the travel issue is ultimately bogus – teams aren’t going to want to over-burden the players, either, from a competitve standpoint. The playoff format is a legitimate concern though. It’s the thing I liked least in the proposal.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
I think the travel issue is ultimately bogus
Yeah, it’s a canard.
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I’m not against the union standing up for itself and raising its concerns. I’m surprised we hadn’t heard any discussion of players opinions and concerns sooner than now. It had almost appeared that the realignment was a “done” deal — until now.
There is both good and bad on the proposed realignment. The unequal teams in the conferences (and its implication on odds for making the playoffs) is a concern. I would love the 4 division/conference format even more if we expanded to 2 more teams. But, then again, expansion doesn’t work in today’s economic climate and the fact that we have current teams in financial trouble.
On the travel in the proposal. Yes, there is more travel out of division/conference. They were finally moving Dallas and Minnesota to a alignment that makes more sense and playing Winnipeg in its logical place. I was surprised that Columbus and Detroit didn’t get moved to one of the more easterly conferences which is what I would have recommended.
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Sounds like the narrative that the NHL put out last night worked for some fans.
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by bagace on Jan 7, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Among other things, I just assumed that when the NHL put forward the plan Gary had done his job and already consulted with the PA, and knew that this plan was going to fly (and thus the horse-trading for the CBA had already occurred). Either Gary didn’t do his job or, like the NFL tried to do with proposing an 18-game schedule, this realignment plan was the first major volley by the NHL to get its players to bargain against something the NHL isn’t necessarily firmly attached to as an idea, and thus, strengthen the NHL’s position. The only downside is that I think hockey fans (at least those of us from the SE) are generally more amenable to this realignment than football fans were to an 18 game schedule. But I doubt Gary really cares, so long as they make money.
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Among other things, I just assumed that when the NHL put forward the plan Gary had done his job and already consulted with the PA, and knew that this plan was going to fly
Clearly this is probably how it should have happened. I think it shows how little regard for the union the league has.
by kingbonehead on Jan 7, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
From what I was hearing, a majority of the players FAVORED realignment. I don’t think they actually voted against it – I think this was almost entirely on Donald Fehr.
Failure is always an option.
I get the vibe that this is just posturing. It’s more of a “We’re mad at how you did it” than a “We don’t like it.”
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Exactly. I suspect the new agreement will involve the union more, but then make minimal changes. Definitely seems to be more “We will be included in decisions.” than “We hate the new structure.”
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by Bman21212 on Jan 7, 2012 4:09 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
This is ultimately just a negotiating posture. The PA got hosed after the lockout – and I realize they did themselves no favors in how they handled the negotiation – and Fehr probably feels the need to regain some ground.
Realignment probably happens in a form fairly close to that proposed by the League, but it the PA will wring some concessions out of them for it.
Either that or as suggested upthread it’s a red herring from the League that they will ultimately concede on while remaining firm on other (unknown) issues that are more dear to them. I personally doubt the League is that sophisticated at negotiations, personally. But you never know.
Anyhoo, this isn’t imho anything to get your knickers in a twist about.
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er, player rep. (and who is that BTW?) Curious to hear how this actually went down. Did it come from above (Fehr) or, were there some vocal union members who swayed the rest of the boys.
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I’ve been waiting for him to say this …. we all have
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by TheFuryUnleashed on Jan 7, 2012 10:21 AM EST reply actions
Forgive my ignorance, but can you provide me with more information or a link. I want to read because I have no clue who’s speaking and in what context.
It’s in one of the Clips links, perhaps one of the San Jose links. Don’t have time to find it again. (We have a funeral to attend).
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by capsyoungguns on Jan 7, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
I was wondering too….Its in the San Jose Mercury News clip. Interesting comments from both Bruce and Ovi.
In that article they use the “enigmatic Russian” card
The dazzling left wing always has been an enigmatic talent.
Fear the Fin had some fun with that in their (well-written) preview.
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I think I’m going to start referring to Semin as “enematic.”
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by J.P. on Jan 7, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ew.
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by WordsOnIce on Jan 7, 2012 2:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I found this quote interesting too. I tied it in with Johnson’s observations in one of the precaps that it’s not that Ovi had to find new tricks or weapons but rather find new areas on the ice from which to shoot—and that’s where his defense could help by moving the puck up more quickly to give him that extra half second to create that space. In general it feels as if there is more of a strategic plan to help Ovi find his game.
Knuble: "I am what I am. I play well with good players."
On his milestone: "It's going to be like unwrapping a birthday present. Then the day after you're kind of like [sighs]....Now you just have to keep going."
by capsyoungguns on Jan 7, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
As I read this I was thinking, “I know it’s coming… gotta be… and there it is – Johnson brings it back to the D doing their job in their own end.”
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by J.P. on Jan 7, 2012 11:28 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
He is a man obsessed. Blocking a ton of shots and whatnot.
Knuble: "I am what I am. I play well with good players."
On his milestone: "It's going to be like unwrapping a birthday present. Then the day after you're kind of like [sighs]....Now you just have to keep going."
by capsyoungguns on Jan 7, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
So, at least we can expect Backstrom to be back. While Hunter says Semin is “ready to go”, I have my doubts that he’ll play tonight. Guessing Hunter wants to give him an “extra” night off. Given the fact that players used as “fill ins” on higher lines and practice with the 4th line are generally scratched players. Well, we’ll know tonight. Or even sooner when we see who’s skating during the “scratch” skate at the end of today’s morning skate.
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by Bald Pollack on Jan 7, 2012 11:51 AM EST reply actions 7 recs
Here’s hoping this is true.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jan 7, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
I could kiss you for posting this.
I’ll let Parker do it for me, though.
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Which one?
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jan 7, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
cmasisak22 Corey Masisak
Bold prediction? B/c of schedules + recent play, game on Feb. 17 b/w Panthers + Caps will be a chance for a knockout punch … for the Caps
How bold? That’s more than a month from now and it’s possible the Caps are in first by this time next week, although given the next two Caps opponents, not necessarily likely. Not wanting to jinx anything you know….
How many people are tweeting Masisak as a Caps homer?
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Haha ,, I imagine GMGM thinking “fat-fuck” right after knowing about BB offers to SJ coach.
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by BetterOffWith28 on Jan 7, 2012 12:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I don’t wonder about Ovie’s drop in scoring production. He has been coached into mediocrity. To wit:
He was told his style was reckless and he had to tone down his physical play, so he did.
He was told he was predictable and had to change his attack style, do something different, so he did
He was told to pass more, use the other players more, so he did.
He was told he needed to be rested during the regular season in preparation for the playoffs, so his ice time was reduced.
Change the style that had resulted in multiple 50+ goals/year, don’t shoot so much, and don’t play so much and now he scores less. Is it any wonder? No, it is not. It is a very predictable result. My hope is Hunter will let Ovie be Ovie, do whatever he wants, and play him a lot. The result will be more scoring production and a return of the ‘old’ Ovie.
While I agree the resting for the playoffs is kind of bogus for a guy like Ovechkin, I think some of those criticisms are valid. Just because he was a top five goal scorer in league history through his first five seasons doesn’t mean he can’t do things that will help him sustain his success. Five years of Bossy and seven of Iginla is amazing.
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by red army line on Jan 7, 2012 1:07 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Aw, Scott Hannan to IR. He got elbowed in the 9-0 Bruins massacre.
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God damned scumbags in Boston.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jan 7, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And on the Bruins, too.
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by J.P. on Jan 7, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wait, I didn’t see anything about a Bruin getting suspended for a headshot, did I?
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Of course you didn’t. They’re exempt from league rules, for some godawful reason.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jan 7, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
So…Backstrom not at morning skate yet.
Could this be a strategy to keep San Jose guessing as to line-up?
Until the post-skate scrum, we have no idea. Morning skate is supposedly always “optional”, or maybe was. They could have told him to take the option. [please, please, please]
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Whyno thinks that Nicky’s out tonight. Ouch!
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Katie just tweeted that Backstrom definitely out pre Hunter.
If he’s showing any signs of a concussion, I think you definitely keep him out and ensure he’s ready for later in the year.
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sorry – should read “per Hunter.”
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Hunter says no setbacks for Nicky — they just want to play it safe.
This is per Whyno
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Much as I’d like to see him play tonight, I agree it’s the wise move. Maybe he plays Monday.
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OH PLEASE PLAY!!!
It’smy only chance to se them live until the finals!!!!
Oisk and Schultz are the healthy scratches on defense tonight.
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As expected.
Simply time for others to step up tonight. One game without 19 isn’t the end of the world.
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No, but it could make the 2h drive home from SJ tonite seem even longer… Still, agree with keeping him out at least one more game to be on the safe side.
You had me at Ovechkin.
by norcalcapsfan on Jan 7, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
I’m with you on this. Very disappointing though it’s the right decision. Let’s be loud tonight.
by SFJerome on Jan 7, 2012 4:14 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Today’s depressing number — post noon. Number of games this season when all 4 of our former “Young Guns” have played: 8
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How many games have the Penguins had all of Staal, Malkin, Crosby, and Letang?
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jan 7, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
Trick question – correct answer is “Who fuckin’ cares?”
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by J.P. on Jan 7, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Penguin fans do
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by J.P. on Jan 7, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
It wasn’t to be as a comparison. It was a question because other than the Flyers with Girous/Pronger, I can’t think of any other team that has so consistently had one of it’s top players out for the season.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jan 7, 2012 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
Too bad about Nicky; his health should be the paramount concern of course. It should be interesting to see whether – and when – Halpy gets moved up to take draws. Thornton seems virtually unbeatable; he is quite canny in that regard and always takes key draws. I assume Brooks will get most of the assignments against him, but McLellan has him out all the time so there will be mismatches. I think the Caps will do ok tonight but they need to forecheck and stay in the SJ zone so Thornton-Couture-Marleau-Pavelski-Clowe, a formidable set of offensive forwards, can’t do their work. Go Caps!
McLellan runs power against power, so he likely would want Thornton and Boyle against Ovechkin. If Hunter can avoid that match, fantastic.
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by red army line on Jan 7, 2012 4:48 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Yes, McLellan does that….or, he might try to match Handzus up with Ovi, although he has been dropped to 4th line inexplicably. In any case, I think if our top 5 or 6 (minus Nicky) can offset their top 5 or 6, our bottom 6 (which is due to pop a few!) could be the difference. Even more likely, though, is the offensive potential of our defense….clearly better that SJ’s. Once you get past Boyle and Burns, they don’t have too much fire power from the back end. I haven’t heard about goaltending but I hope it isn’t Nemi…he has been hot lately. There have been some murky rumors about Nittymaki but I don’t think we would be that lucky.
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by Pivonka, Michael Ridley on Jan 7, 2012 6:49 PM EST reply actions
Allrighty then…
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by BetterOffWith28 on Jan 7, 2012 8:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Downie’s the guy who’s even too dirty for the Flyers. Okay, I’m being mean here.
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