Wednesday Caps Clips: Firing Blanks; Caps @ Habs Game Day
Your savory breakfast links:
- Recaps and other assorted musings on last night's loss from us, Caps365 video (Hunter, Caps players, Capuano, Isles players), Vogs, Capitals Voice (audio), NHL.com, WaPo (gamer, blog), WashTimes (gamer), CSNW (gamer, article, blog), DCEx, 106.7 The Fan, WTOP, Frankovic, Peerless, RMNB, SB Nation DC, KOL, OFB, DSP, Examiner, Sick Unbelievable, RtR, Capitals Outsider, Caps By Puck (pics) and clydeorama (pics).
- Previews of tonight's hullabaloo with the Habs from Vogs, NHL.com, Peerless, RMNB, hockey yelling and CRtC, and be sure to check out our SB Nation partner Habs Eyes On The Prize for more coverage from the other side of tonight's match-up.
- Rene Bourque has expectations for tonight's game, and they include being a marked man. [TSN, CSNW (video)]
- Notes and Notes and assorted whatnot from yesterday's morning skate:
- In general. [Caps365 video (Morning Skate, Hunter, McPhee), 106.7 The Fan]
- Mike Green had surgery yesterday for what was "basically" a sports hernia... [WashTimes (and again), WaPo, DCEx, WTOP, SB Nation DC, CSNW, DSP]
- ... which sucks (the injury, not the surgery, but probably both)... [SB Nation DC]
- ... but from which his prognosis for recovery is good (statistically, at least)... [WaPo]
- ... just ask assistant coach Dean Evason. [WashTimes, WaPo]
- Sticking with man-areas, Tom Poti's likely career-ending lower-body injuries stem back to a broken pelvis? Um, ouch. [DCEx]
- And finally, Nicklas Backstrom is showing signs of progress, which is, of course, good news. [DCEx, WashTimes, WaPo, CSNW]
- Green's injury, and durability generally, make his looming (restricted) free agency very interesting. [WaPo]
- Brooks Laich talks about Green's injuries. Why not. [106.7 The Fan]
- On the last time a Caps goalie made double-digit consecutive starts. [Dump 'n Chase]
- The latest from Tuesday's Bears practice. [Patriot-News, with a look at Hershey at the midway point here]
- Brett Flemming is hoping his stay in South Carolina isn't a lengthy one. [PA Puck]
- Finally, sell or sell the new decorations at Verizon Center? [DC Sports Bog, SB Nation DC, SB Nation, Capitals Outsider]
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12-9-1.
Who can tell me the significance?
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Well, we’re at 12-8-1 right now…what happens after a loss tonight???
"He leaves every ounce of energy that he has on the ice and works very hard at it, and he wants to be the best and he wants to win, If you don’t follow that, you’ve got something wrong with you."
by nogoodtrying on Jan 18, 2012 7:29 AM EST up reply actions
Precisely. That’s when BB got fired. So what happens?
"He leaves every ounce of energy that he has on the ice and works very hard at it, and he wants to be the best and he wants to win, If you don’t follow that, you’ve got something wrong with you."
by nogoodtrying on Jan 18, 2012 7:33 AM EST up reply actions
BB also had several years of regular season success and several years of playoff failure. In other words, he was given a fair chance. So like J.P. said, not that.
by jopierce on Jan 18, 2012 7:43 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Hunter’s record?
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by Bald Pollack on Jan 18, 2012 7:31 AM EST up reply actions
Better PP – 23.7% vs. 16.3% – but that’s totally negated by drawing fewer penalties with Hunter’s passive approach. To wit, they have 14 PPGs under each coach, despite the huge discrepency in efficiency.
PK’s pretty much a wash.
ES goals-for and -against both way down.
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by Kolzilla on Jan 18, 2012 7:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 5 recs
FWIW, PP Sh percentage:
2010-11 10.3%
2011-12 BB 12.8%
2011-12 DH 8.0%
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That can’t be right. FWIW, I’ve got BB at 12.2% (14 goals on 115 shots) and DH at 17.3% (14 goals on 81 shots).
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I’ll double check. Maybe I had a typo in SQL code.
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(And my number for Dale actually doesn’t include last night… but just eye-balling it, with fewer PP Opps and the same total goals, no way is Dale’s Sh% so much lower unless they’re generating a shit-ton more shots per minute… which they’re not.)
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Former Caps in the AHL: #Amerks D Shaone Morrisonn gets a 3-game suspension for hit to head of Hamilton’s Brian Willsie on Sat. (Source Kevin O Amerks beat writer)
You can make stuff like that up… boys, boys, you used to be teammates, for cryin’ out loud!
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Yup, my first reaction to the news.
Haven’t watched, but this blog has video:
http://www.letsgoamerks.com/2012/01/17/shaone-morrisonn-suspended-3-games-for-this-hit/
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by miseenjeu on Jan 18, 2012 7:37 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
The headline today is faulty. Whatever it was the Caps were doing last night, it wasn’t “firing.” Blanks or otherwise.
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The Caps fired fewer blanks than a 21-gun salute.
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by KNUUUUUUUUUUBLE on Jan 18, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
A “fandango” followed by a “hullabaloo”. What’s next? Hootennanny? Shindig? Wang-Wang-Doodle? :)
/spent my adolescence in the 60’s
by Acer Jonesy's Laughker on Jan 18, 2012 8:03 AM EST reply actions
I’ve gotta remember to use “wang-wang-doodle with Winnipeg” next time they play the Jets.
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Everyone is going to wang chung in Winnipeg?
Once you take the fisting element out, it's not romantic anymore.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Jan 18, 2012 8:14 AM EST up reply actions
The identical records underscore the fact that coaching is not the root of all evil on this team. That is disappointing. At the same time, there is plenty of evidence that coaching makes a difference in sports (see 49ers, San Francisco 2012).
I liked DH32’s response last night and his overall demeanor. Let’s see if he can light a fire under these guys.
Nice guys finish first, but sometimes the season is awfully long.
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by STLSpidey on Jan 18, 2012 8:35 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Or, they could just both be wrong coach fits for this team.
by Vinn on Jan 18, 2012 8:40 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Our internet was down at work this morning, and we tried 5 different Ethernet cords from the modem to the firewall before rebooting everything, which fixed it
RAMPAGE
by JediChewbacca on Jan 18, 2012 8:55 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You probably should have run a network diagnostic first, deciphered the issue, recorded it as a known issue, then worked with the proper team to find a work-around while a resolution is researched.
"He leaves every ounce of energy that he has on the ice and works very hard at it, and he wants to be the best and he wants to win, If you don’t follow that, you’ve got something wrong with you."
by nogoodtrying on Jan 18, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
has someone tried pinging Semin?
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by JediChewbacca on Jan 18, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Tried it at the office:
C:[[COMMENT_CHILDREN_TOKEN]]gt;ping semin
Ping request could not find host semin. Please check the name and try again.
C:[[COMMENT_CHILDREN_TOKEN]]gt;
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jan 18, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Ping request could not find host semin
I bet you’d have better luck finding him with a google search.
by HockeyGoalie29 on Jan 18, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe… certainly aren’t going to find him on Wikipedia today.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jan 18, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
it was a loose anecdote applied to hockey
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by JediChewbacca on Jan 18, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions
LOL so was mine.
"He leaves every ounce of energy that he has on the ice and works very hard at it, and he wants to be the best and he wants to win, If you don’t follow that, you’ve got something wrong with you."
by nogoodtrying on Jan 18, 2012 9:21 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
research team still out on the known issues…. MoJo at 2C is like the WPA stop gap that fixed WEP before WPA2 was released
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by JediChewbacca on Jan 18, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
Haha nice!
What they obviously need is a HIPS set up that is designed to not only stop the threat but also contain it.
"He leaves every ounce of energy that he has on the ice and works very hard at it, and he wants to be the best and he wants to win, If you don’t follow that, you’ve got something wrong with you."
by nogoodtrying on Jan 18, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
I wonder if I can get away with telling my boss that I am engaging in a technical conversation for the betterment of the company and hang out in the comments thread all day…
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by JediChewbacca on Jan 18, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
Better yet, can we figure out how to justify this conversation as a necessary conference meeting in Calgary during the ASG and get them to pay for travel and hotel costs? I’m totally in!
"He leaves every ounce of energy that he has on the ice and works very hard at it, and he wants to be the best and he wants to win, If you don’t follow that, you’ve got something wrong with you."
by nogoodtrying on Jan 18, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
Both coaches wree/are 12-9-1 with this team, but as much as the “how” is “how you get there.” Looking at their five-game splits, first to last:
BB:
5-0-0
3-2-0
2-2-1
2-3-0
0-2-0 (21st and 22nd games)
DH:
2-3-0
3-2-0
3-1-1
3-2-0
1-1-0 (21st and 22nd games)
I don’t see Hunter having turned things around as much as having stopped the bleeding. I think that after 22 games, though, the team should be “getting it” more with respect to Hunter’s philosophy than they have displayed so far.
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by ThePeerless on Jan 18, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Agreed. And, with all due respect to Hunter, I think that any change would have stopped the bleeding just as effectively – it’s not Dale so much as “not Bruce.”
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Yep. Hell, shots on goal against aren’t even down under Hunter.
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In 2009-2010, when the Caps were lighting up the league to a tune of 3.82 goals/game, they finished the season with 313 goals on 2693 shots (an 11.6 percent shooting percentage). This year, they are on a pace to finish with 231 goals on 2287 shots (an 10.1 percent shooting percentage), 2.82 goals/game.
Average shots: 09/10: 32.8 — 11/12: 27.9 (change: -4.9/game)
Here is the odd thing about those shots. In 09/10, five players finished with >200 shots (the Young Guns and Brooks Laich). This year, only two players are on a pace for 200+ shots (Ovechkin, Laich). Chimera would finish third with 188, Carlson and Wideman next with 171 apiece.
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by ThePeerless on Jan 18, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
Wouldn’t have guess Laich as second on the team in SOG. Good on him, I guess (though he needs to convert more). Bad on Mr. $6.7m Winger.
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Further to that, Semin’s averaging 2.1 shots per game, fewest since the lockout by nearly 30%.
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Ovechkin is on a pace to finish with 309 shots, a 16 percent drop (58 shots) from his next lowest season finish (367 last season).
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by ThePeerless on Jan 18, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
So did the Caps brass.
And he used to. But perhaps that was all the product of a system more conducive to his skill set – we’ve pointed out before how the moment Bruce went to the trap last year, Semin became a ~0.5 point/game player with little else of value.
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I’ve said it before, but a guy making $7m needs to “drive play” (whatever the fuck that means), regardless of the system. Semin isn’t that kind of player and never has been. He’s insanely talented, and capable of taking over a game here and there, but he’s not the kind of player around whom you build a roster.
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I’ve said it before, but a guy making $7m needs to "drive play" (whatever the fuck that means), regardless of the system.
Of course.
Semin isn’t that kind of player and never has been.
Disagree. There have been times when he’s been wholly capable of anchoring (in a good way) the second line.
He’s insanely talented, and capable of taking over a game here and there, but he’s not the kind of player around whom you build a roster.
I don’t think building a roster around Alex Semin was ever an intention or result.
Like I’ve said, if a $7m winger needs to play with great players in order to be effective, he’s not a $7m winger.
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by J.P. on Jan 18, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Fortunately (although probably not for this season), this problem is going to go away, either by the player going to another team (or country), or taking a big pay cut to stay here (a lot less likely).
But it (among a lot of other things) seems to be contributing to what might make this a wasted season.
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by ThePeerless on Jan 18, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
Any roster of 20+ players with one guy making well over 10% of the salary cap is, to some degree, built around that player. Semin clearly isn’t “foundational” in the same way that Ovie, Green and Backstrom are, but his salary and position (#2W) means that the roster is in large part “built around him.”
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Fair enough. It’s semantic (Semintic?), and I certainly agree that the intention and plan was to structure the second line around him… an obviously fatal flaw at this point.
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There have been times when he’s been wholly capable of anchoring (in a good way) the second line.
If that’s the case, then why has this team been searching for a #2C since forever?
Semin is capable of going on hot streaks and scoring a bunch of goals, but I don’t think that’s the same thing as “anchoring” a consistently productive line.
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If that’s the case, then why has this team been searching for a #2C since forever?
To bolster the lineup in a Conference that’s stacked with centers.
Semin scored 40 (30 at ES) and was +36 with Brendan Morrison and Eric Belanger as his center. If that’s not good enough to demonstrate he was able to carry a line, I don’t know what to tell you.
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by J.P. on Jan 18, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He’s not “carrying a line” in that case – he’s just scoring goals. (I’d also be curious as to how many of those ES goals came when he was playing with AO and Backstrom.)
I also recall that he didn’t exactly light a goal-scoring fire under his line mates either. “Carrying a line” to me is about more than scoring goals.
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He had a great Corsi, big point totals (including assists) and big SFON/60, all with worse zone starts than 8 or 19.
20.24% of his ES production came with 8 and 19 on ice.
If I’m getting all of that out of a guy who’s taking ~75% of his shifts on the second line, I’m pretty happy.
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by J.P. on Jan 18, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
On Laich…7.2 percent shooting is almost “defenseman” territory, not something for a guy whose goals should be coming from 25 feet and in.
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by ThePeerless on Jan 18, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
Laich is shooting worse than Karl Alzner at 5v5, surprisingly.
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by red army line on Jan 18, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Also, Semin and Ovechkin were lighting the lamp again during the four game win streak. They’re starting to slow down too. Ovechkin has two goals in his last seven games and last night he reverted to old tendencies, refusing to carry the puck below the circles. Lots of turnovers, lots of ineffectiveness.
I was sort of hoping his habits would change under Hunter, but that doesn’t appear to be the case.
The new head coach of Team Russia is scouting the Caps tonight in Montreal, so I kinda expect a slightly more inspired game from the Sashas. I also hope Dima Orlov doesn’t try to do too much. Hopefully he plays a smart, simple game.
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He should take out a page of Mackan’s book.The Swedish National team coach Per Mårts and his assistant, former NHL player Johan Garpenlöv, were at the game in LA against the Kings. Mårts was so impressed with Marcus’s play and his two goals in the game that he said afterward that Marcus was a shoo-in for Worlds this year. And hey with the way things are going this season he might need something to do in May.
Marcus was saying all the right things after the game: “I would trade those two goals for a win, any day of the week. We have to start winning on the road soon, this will just not cut it.”
Mårts sounds genuinely perplexed when he talks about the Caps new system, especially in the D zone and the fact that they allow the other team to enter it so easily.
Mårts: “It just shouldn’t be that easy for the opposing team to gain control of the puck. They just have to wave their sticks a little and that’s enough to steal the puck from the Capitals.That’s something you see when kids play. On this level that just shouldn’t happen.”
by Malin A on Jan 18, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Is there any word on which players went to Montreal? We know Eakin went given his quest for his passport. But what about Erskine, Schultz, Perreault, Kundratek? Do they take them all and then decide on the healthy scratches after the morning skate?
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by Bald Pollack on Jan 18, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
generally, a player only stays behind if they are injured. A player who is very close to returning with the team may go on the trip to get practice in. otherwise, they stay and work with the strength and conditioning coaches, within the limitations of their injury, and receive treatment.
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We’ve all noticed that the Capitals no longer dominate in shots or chances against their opponents. We’ve all wondered why. This is what I’m seeing, is anyone else seeing it and is there a way to prove it via fancystats?
- Man to man defense is hindering the breakouts.
Since Hunter took over, it seems like the Caps are frequently stuck in their own zone and cannot exit the defensive zone cleanly, often turning over the puck to the opposing team. - Shorter shifts lead to more dump-ins to change lines.
Couple the bad breakouts and getting dominated in the defensive zone, when the Caps do break out of their defensive zone, they often dump the puck into the offensive zone for a line change and try to set up a forecheck rather than try to carry the puck into the zone, handing possession right back to the opposition. - Cycling in the Offensive Zone is not leading to chances/shots
When the Caps finally do get the puck into the offensive zone and set up the cycle, it frequently looks like the Caps cycle the puck 3-4 times and do not register a shot, either turning the puck over or getting a shot blocked. When the Caps do manage to get a scoring chance off of the cycle, it seems like a pretty good scoring chance.
by Joran on Jan 18, 2012 9:28 AM EST reply actions 6 recs
I agree with a lot of this, but not the causal chain. The man to man D isn’t hurting the breakout, bad passes and personnel are doing that.
Shorter shifts are a good thing, so I’m not going to blame them for anything. J.P. has also been harping on the fact that you have to change right away if you get pinned in your own end, and that started before DH so it’s not a new problem. That’s just how it is, if you’re tired after playing D you can’t carry the puck into the O zone and set up.
Cycling isn’t going to lead to great chances all the time. It wears teams down and ends up creating chances at some point, but it’s not going to generate any firewagon chances, it’s a more conservative offensive approach.
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by Rob Parker on Jan 18, 2012 9:37 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
On the breakouts, it seems that the Caps D are under instructions to “just get it out of the zone” rather than really trying to establish a controlled breakout. They constantly just bang it off the boards or flip it out, right back to the opposition. I’ve particularly noticed Alzner doing this even when he has a bit of time, which is a shame because, while not a traditional puck mover, he seemed to be good at the first pass. Maybe this is just a result of constantly being hemmed in rather than causing the hemming in, but I’d like to see a little more trying to have a controlled breakout when there’s mild pressure rather than just banging along the boards.
by Dirk Dangler on Jan 18, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That isn’t what I’ve been seeing, but I’ll keep my eyes open for it. I’ve been seeing a lot of botched breakout passes in situations that should be relatively easy breakou8ts.
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There have been a few times where he’s chipped the puck into the neutral zone that struck me as “we need fresh legs, if I get the puck to neutral, at least we can get a couple fresh forwards on.”
I’d like to see them try to toss the puck way up in the air, and have Chimera blast up the boards to run it down before the opponent’s D-man can chase it down for icing. It’s worked a few times over the last few games.
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by iwearstripes on Jan 18, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
No need to reinvent the wheel right?
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by iwearstripes on Jan 18, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
The Caps had a miserable passing game last night. Way too many passes to the backhand that forced the recipient to stop skating and reorient, which completely disrupts the flow of the breakout.
Quick, smooth and accurate passing is a serious problem right now.
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The “stop skating” point is a really good one. Similarly, the Caps really seem to struggle with timing when dumping in the puck. Too often, they dump in without the winger having speed entering the zone, which leads to easy possession by the other team’s D. Chimera being the exception as that guy always has speed. Are others seeing this? Maybe it’s a by-product of not being a dump-and-chase team but I’d think they’d have picked it up by now.
by Dirk Dangler on Jan 18, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
Would the positioning be different on a man to man vs. a zone for a breakout? That could lead to bad passes in that the forwards are in a different place than the defenseman expects. To my eyes, since Hunter, the Caps seem to be pinned in their own zone more often than under Boudreau, but I’m not sure how to quantify that.
That said, would the greatest improvement in breakouts from the defensive zone be a healthy Mike Green?
The positioning will be unique in any particular system, but at the end of the day all systems have a breakout that is going to look pretty similar (strong side W on the boards, support from the weak side W and the C). The players should all know where to be by this point so the breakout issues aren’t related to the D zone system, IMO.
And yes, Mike Green is the single biggest way to cure the breakout.
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The positioning is somewhat different, but the bigger change is who is in what position. In a man-to-man system, the wings move over a larger area, hence you see somewhat more of Ovi down towards the goal line in the defensive zone.
To an extent, I think the more conservative style keeps them hemmed in their zone. Having Ovi floating out around the blue line (old “system”) forces the point man to either stay at home, or risk an Ovi breakaway. With Ovi down lower in the defensive zone (new system), there’s effectively less space in the defensive zone to make the breakout pass, and another defender to get around to make it.
If you watch closely, you’ll notice the breakout is pretty frequently getting hung up between the hash marks and the blue line.
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by iwearstripes on Jan 18, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
Hell yes Green fixes all. A healthy Green makes this team legit.
But a healthy Green seems to be happening once in a blue moon, so the Caps need to figure something out to have a breakout without relying on Green. And for gods sake implement the Detroit retrieval method and protect 52.
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There is something that the Caps may be lacking in 2011-12 that they didn’t have in 2010-11, and that’s a guy who doesn’t give a damn about anything on the ice other than busting [Avery] and taking names: Matt Bradley. Remember him? He who only scores goals against elite goaltenders, is good in the locker room, works hard at practice, games, and gets other to work hard as well (If he’s making so much less $$ than I do, I need to work as hard as he does).
No coincidence either that the team the Caps are chasing are Brads’ new team…
Sure the Caps have a lot of guys who work hard (Ovechkin, Backstrom, Ward, Hendricks, Alzner, Neuvirth, Vokoun, Halpern…) but there’s no one on the team that has Brads’ attitude and work ethic. And Brads’ work ethic is contagious…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jan 18, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Wow, are you looking for work as Bradley’s agent. I don’t buy it. I buy he was good in the room and likely had a good work ethic, but I don’t buy that he got others to work as hard as him. Also, some guys on this team have solid work ethics from what one can tell looking from the outside.
A larger point, maybe...
The Caps current fourth line is comprised of a small, offensive-minded center (Eakin or Perreault), one winger who’s greatest attribute is his willingness to get punched (Hendricks) and another that, despite his general toughness, doesn’t really bring any discernable skill to the table (Beagle). Compared to the last couple of years, when there were two face-off and penalty kill specialists (Gordon, Steckel) and the above-mentioned Bradley, who apparently carried an aura of greatness that transferred to those around him.
My long-winded point is that this year’s third line (Chimera-Laich-Ward) is doing the work of last year’s fourth. And this year’s fourth should be playing in Central PA.
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Jan 18, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
At the same time, with the minutes they’re getting, that line is the least of the team’s problem. I do agree, generally, that they’re not bringing much to the table at all (especially when compared to last year’s incarnation).
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You’d like them to at least play the opposition fourth lines to a standstill and not be pinned for a minute giving up 2 great chances.
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Well, part of that is on the defensemen, too.
Say, want to do up a quick post on that?
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I didn't mean to imply the fourth line is the Caps greatest problem this season
just elaborating on a point based on the other guy’s observation about Bradley. But it’s interesting that in years past, the fourth line has had a distinct skill-set and role with this team. This season, they’re just the leftover forwards on the roster, thus the lack of PT.
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Jan 18, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I agree. They definitely are a spare part line and they absolutely need to be more effective.
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Yep. I’ve said before that there’s almost no place in the capped NHL for a “uni-tasker” – a guy who doesn’t play special teams or have some other specific skill set (be it fighter or faceoff specialist, etc.). Hendricks gets a pass from me because he’s killing penalties and fights, but Eakin, Perreault and Beagle… hard to see them adding a ton of value to the team right now.
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If memory serves, Beags was a pretty solid penalty killer last year, but that could just be my lyin’ neurons. I wonder if he’s not getting time there now because he’s recently back from concussion.
by Twenty Seven Ninety on Jan 18, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
He had pretty good numbers in pretty limited and (insofar as they can be) sheltered minutes.
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And despite being in the mid 50s in FO% career, he was 3 for 12 on short-handed FOs last year. (Obviously a tiny sample.)
by Twenty Seven Ninety on Jan 18, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
If Bradley’s work ethic was contagious the Caps would have had so many work ethic issues the past few years.
And I think it is completely a coincidence that the Caps are behind Bradley’s new team in the standings (for now).
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by Killer_Carlson on Jan 18, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Speaking of Bradley’s new team, something to keep in mind for tonight – Jovocop had a fight with Daniel Paille the other day and is now on the shelf for two months following hand surgery.
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I’m growing concerned that Hunter is so focused on preventing odd-man breaks against that he’s willing to sacrifice practically all offensive zone presence to achieve that goal. I know his OHL teams were pretty stacked, including at goalie the year they had Steve Mason (their championship season?).
Having players like Patrick Kane in the OHL perhaps allowed him to win with this style, since some of those guys were so talented offensively that all they needed was a couple rushes in transition the other way against Joe OHL goalie and D-pairing, who were helpless.
Perhaps the playing field is too level for his style to work in the NHL. Hell, it may have even worked two years ago when Ovie was his old self and the team had more firepower. But it doesn’t seem to work for this group of forwards.
by Kolzilla on Jan 18, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I wasn’t so concerned with the offensive zone presence last night. I mean, obviously it could have been better, but putting in any effort at all would have improved the amount of time spent in the o-zone.
There are times to pass, and there are times to shoot. Last night, it seemed indecision was all too often the decision. I’m fine with cycling the puck, forcing the defending players to constantly move, and creating a seam when you have a mismatch. By the time someone decided to shoot last night, the space created by the cycle was already gone. Too much hesitation.
There were also a few instances where they WAY over passed. The scoring chance was there after the 4th pass, but instead they tried to force a fifth and sixth pass.
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by iwearstripes on Jan 18, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
I think the lack of shots is that they still have terrible puck awareness. The cycle often seems to stop because they kick it around and there’s no Cap there. And they never seem to be in position for rebound shots (assuming the guys actually get a shot that actually needs to be stopped). All of which has been a problem for a while. Heck, I think that was Flash’s major strength, the odd way pucks just landed near him.
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by NGreenberg on Jan 18, 2012 9:35 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Plot that against Vokoun’s YTD SV% and everyone will realize that when he cools off, this team is b-o-n-e-d.
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2011-12 cumulative 5v5 scoring chance differential vs. SC Sv% for Caps

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by NGreenberg on Jan 18, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
A rolling 5 or rolling 10 sv% would be even more stark…
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by Gould Old Days on Jan 18, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
Nothing tells a story for data like a picture. That image should be burned into every brain in Caps Nation.
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by ThePeerless on Jan 18, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
Interesting, that’s scoring chance save percentage? It paints a different picture of the goal tending while Bruce was here then I remember. Then again, if it’s only scoring chance save percentage, it doesn’t include all the softies given up.
by HockeyGoalie29 on Jan 18, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Well, they had the awesome start (through seven games) and then the bottom fell out. It doesn’t look awful there (perhaps), because it’s year-to-date and bolstered by that great start. But that 7-22 save percentage, any way you cut it (SC or straight) was real bad.
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Yeah, being a cumulative total makes it tough to compare individual time periods since the farther you go along the harder it is for a single game to change the average. That makes the last 3 games of Bruce’s tenure stand out though…they were able to drop the average save percentage through 19 games by several points in only a 3 game span.
by HockeyGoalie29 on Jan 18, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, how did you get a look at my retirement portfolio? It looks like that!
Something needs to change and quick.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jan 18, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
Also, I want Nick back. Now.
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by J.P. on Jan 18, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
How about a Jokinen? And i’m not jokin’…en.
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by nogoodtrying on Jan 18, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
Then we will have two guys who turtle.
by Rather Bengt on Jan 18, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
One Jokinen coming up...

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jan 18, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I also hope Nick gets back in soon. From his Twitter updates and photo sessions, it seems like he’s in a pretty chipper mood and isn’t limited to sitting around in a dark room, so maybe he won’t be too much longer.
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I saw the recent blog post with photos, but didn’t pay close enough attention it appears; were those pictures taken since he was sidelined?
http://alexovetjkin.blogspot.com/2012/01/swedish-photographer.html
Yes, he was here for the Carolina game on Friday, so I believe those are current pictures.
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The link to his blog is: http://etoall.se/blog
I just didn’t know when the pics were taken vs posted, so thanks.
I agree to a limited extent it’s a sign about how he may be feeling, but as we know, many players feel ok regarding head issues until they get their heart rate up, so only says so much.
In another respect, crippling depression isn’t uncommon with concussions, so the fact that he seems to be in good spirits is comforting…
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by iwearstripes on Jan 18, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
My guess is that the crippling depression happens when the symptoms don’t go away after a long time.
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In my case, depression plagued me long after the other symptoms had passed.
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by iwearstripes on Jan 18, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
Is Papa Backstrom normally around these parts? It appeared some of those photos were snapped by him.
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by Rob Parker on Jan 18, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I wish it was flat out…
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by J.P. on Jan 18, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I’m just going to go cry in the corner now.
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by RedBirdie on Jan 18, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sigh!
Knuble: "I am what I am. I play well with good players."
On his milestone: "It's going to be like unwrapping a birthday present. Then the day after you're kind of like [sighs]....Now you just have to keep going."
by capsyoungguns on Jan 18, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
Let’s not forget that Backstrom departed after Game 38. Granted, the differential had already dipped into the negative at that point, but surely that exacerbates that drop-off in the last few games greatly.
And, essentially the differential flatlined after Green went out under BB.
That dip between games 27 and 38, however, is quite worrying.
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by KNUUUUUUUUUUBLE on Jan 18, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Some nice referee fail over at Puck Daddy this morning.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/nhl-referees-overprotect-cam-ward-ignore-james-reimer-140643531.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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Good news and bad news:
Good news: If we keep playing like we did in last night’s game, we won’t have to worry about a Regular Season Eastern Conference Champions 2011-2012 banner being hung from the Verizon Center rafters next year.
Bad News: If we keep playing like we did in last night’s game, there is a possibility we will have a 2012 NHL Draft Lottery Pick Champions banner being hung from the Verizon Center rafters at this time next year.
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As bad as the “how many” was last night, the “from where” is just as ugly:

And that one from in tight? Chimera, shorthanded, in the first.
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We destroyed them in shots on goal from the neutral zone.
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by iwearstripes on Jan 18, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
In fairness, once you get down two or three, three-point shots become more advisable.
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by J.P. on Jan 18, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bad visuals
Caps didn’t so much as breathe in Nabby’s general direction. All that cycling means Auger if it doesn’t press against the crease now and then.
Cross check and all call.
by bigonetimer on Jan 18, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
the way I see it is that if everything doesn’t go right and the team isn’t playing full speed under Hunter you will have games like last night.
We are 7-3 in the last 10 and even if the wins weren’t pretty they still count the same at the end of the day. We just have to hope that while things get figured out between the players and coaches the team can continue to stay on the positive for the last 10.
he way I see it is that if everything doesn’t go right and the team isn’t playing full speed under Hunter you will have games like last night.
this is what really worries me about this team. A team should be able to win every when everything isn’t clicking absolutely perfectly. I haven’t seen that so far.
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The 7-3 record is a mirage created by otherworldly (and unsustainable) play by Vokoun, and to a lesser extent, some success on the power play (hopefully more sustainable but I’m not getting my hopes up).
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“The Capitals have not been possessing the puck, drawing penalties, cycling the puck and generating scoring chances with any degree of consistency for quite some time now.
The Caps have been living off the fat of their goaltending and their newly improved defensive scheme, going 9-5-1 in their last 15 games despite getting 30 or fewer shots in each game and being outshot in 12 of the 15 contests.
The house of cards came down on Tuesday."
I’m trying to look for a silver lining and Vogs just killed me.
I also like this quote from Vokoun:
"It doesn’t take a hockey expert to see our effort wasn’t good enough tonight. When you get outworked and outplayed by a team that played last night and who is I don’t know how many points behind us in the standings, there is something wrong."
"A HUNDRED PERCENT, THEY WERE DESERVED. IT WOULD BE NICE TO BE A LITTLE MORE PUMPED UP THAN THAT, BUT WE DIDN’T GIVE THEM ANYTHING TO CHEER ABOUT."
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by Rather Bengt on Jan 18, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
New content, y’all.
This is JP’s polite way of saying “You don’t have to go home but you can’t stay here!”
I don't want to work, I want to hang on the blog all day.
Ha. Stay in both places. But comment there, too, so Rob can feel warm and fuzzy.
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I’m already trying to be in two places at once, here and, you know, work, but I’ll give it a go!
I don't want to work, I want to hang on the blog all day.
Still think the 7-3 run is sustainable? Let’s look more closely at the shot discrepancy.
Tomas Vokoun has started every game in goal during the ten-game run. He’s been brilliant, and he’s had to face an average of 34.2 shots per game over that stretch while his teammates have generated average of just 22.5 SOG.
For perspective a team firing 34.2 SOG per game (San Jose leads with 34.6) would rank third in the NHL while 22.5 SOG would rank dead last (Anaheim is currently last with 26.1).
Looks like we might have our first lineup change:
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Erskine in for Caps
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Yawn.
We actually have a roundtable coming up this afternoon regarding Bourque and related issues, so everyone be ready to discuss around 1…
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Ha, is there anything left to discuss with how much this has been chatted about before and after the trade to Montreal?
Feel free not to read it.
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by J.P. on Jan 18, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’ll read it for the related issues, but there’s been a lot of discussion about Bourque, that’s all. Pre-1, I’ll just say, I hope this game doesn’t become about Bourque as this team, as they demonstrated last night and have in general shown on the road, have a game to focus on winning.
There has been a lot of talk but on this site it’s been in the comments. As crazy as it sounds, a lot of Japers’ Rink readers don’t read the comments.
Please, call me F&B.
there’s other stuff besides comments?
by kingbonehead on Jan 18, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That’s like getting a fortune cookie for the cookie.
(j/k…I couldn’t resist)
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jan 18, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. And I wonder if they were looking past the Isles and thinking about Bourque last night.
As to the post we’re running later, we don’t post anything just for the sake of posting it – if we didn’t think there was some value added, we wouldn’t run it. That said, a lot of it will look/sound familiar to those who dive into the comments, but not necessarily for those who don’t (who actually represent the vast majority of our readership).
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Agreed, and thanks.
Someone should start a Twitter feed and tweet the best comments.
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The best comments are way longer than 140 characters.
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by leacha on Jan 18, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Also true. But 140 character soundbites of many of them, especially devoid of context, would be entertaining.
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by J.P. on Jan 18, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
“Parents don’t have a big enough pool? Join Japers’ Rink to commiserate!” bit.ly……
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by SmallZ827 on Jan 18, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
we don’t post anything just for the sake of posting it
So cute. Having actual, meaningful content to increase readership and not just gratuitous headlines and posts full of useless, unsubstantiated rumors. I’ll give this site 6 months.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Jan 18, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
Mostly a lurker here, but I come here mainly for the comments. Links after. More fun that way.
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by SpeedRacer on Jan 18, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
this deserves a rec. and welcome to our little corner of teh interwebz. you even came equipped with an avatar!
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I wasn’t really thinking about it in terms of Bourque, although I know others would. It can also be as simple as last night stunk, let’s try something else.
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If it was just that, I’d think Perreault in for someone would be the minor shake-up move. But that’s neither here nor there – neither of those guys can fix what’s wrong right now.
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Huzzah! Our 4’9" savior!
(Kidding aside, I welcome the move.)
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After that Orpik hit last night, wouldn’t surprise me if he went from renting the quiet room to leasing with an option to buy.
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by Bald Pollack on Jan 18, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Didn’t he swing a stick at Orpik’s neck, too? PD has video:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/nhl-referees-overprotect-cam-ward-ignore-james-reimer-140643531.html
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Looks more like petting to me, but nice to have context.
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by Bald Pollack on Jan 18, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Obvious answer is obvious: MSL FTW.
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by nogoodtrying on Jan 18, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Major Soccer League?
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by ThePeerless on Jan 18, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
I ain’t starting no blog about that
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by ThePeerless on Jan 18, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Why not? I hear there’s more scoring than in Caps games.
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No kidding. ’Twas a wee joke.
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Little did you know the consequences of posting it.
"He leaves every ounce of energy that he has on the ice and works very hard at it, and he wants to be the best and he wants to win, If you don’t follow that, you’ve got something wrong with you."
by nogoodtrying on Jan 18, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
I’d definitely trade Kundtarek for prime era Bobby Orr.
Oh wait, never mind….
by Rather Bengt on Jan 18, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Kundratek has two AHL career fights, John Erskine has 61 in the NHL.
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by ThePeerless on Jan 18, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Somewhere Rene Bourque makes sure he has extra underwear in his locker for tonight…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jan 18, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
Finally, sell or sell the new decorations at Verizon Center?
As the Bog pointed out, the Red Wings hang the exact same banners. Even the wording is the same.
I guess it just becomes salt in the wound when you have nary a Stanley Cup banner to hang.
Capitals goal scored by #22, Mike...
by KNUUUUUUUUUUBLE on Jan 18, 2012 11:57 AM EST reply actions
I think that commemorating everything you’ve ever won is more palatable when you’ve actually won something.
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by J.P. on Jan 18, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
(That said, if I was in charge of the Wings, we wouldn’t hang those.)
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it’s not like they’re lacking in banners to hang.
I will have to point out that the Wings hang the same banner to someone.
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I’m worried that there will be other things hanging before to long… the Caps’ playoff hopes by a thread, Caps fans on the daily updates to the standings, Caps coaches and management in effigy…that sort of thing.
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by ThePeerless on Jan 18, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Eh, that’s a big bowl of “who cares” to me. Clearly anything short of a Stanley Cup banner is dissapointing, but all teams hang banners when they win something significant like a division. It’s an accomplishment and not to be overlooked, but at this point in the team’s history, it’s not something to be celebrated either. So quietly hang a banner commemorating the feat and move along. The team hasn’t made a big deal of this, which is good. IMO, I’d just assume they hang one banner for the year with all the accomplishments listed on it.
Reality is that until this team wins a Cup, anything and everything they do to to highlight their accomplishments is going to be met with a “yeah, but”. So be it. There’s one way to resolve that.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Jan 18, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
generally, each accomplishment gets a banner, even if they’re all in the same year. So, for 2012, a team could have: division champ, conference champ, regular season conference champ, presidents’ trophy, and stanley cup.
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I'm ok with the new banners...
…they indicate an accomplishment that took a lot of hard work. And to get the top seed in the conference or Presidents’ Trophy you have to win a lot of games. The Caps won a lot of games in 2009-10 and 2010-11.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jan 18, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
I realize I’m probably in the minority, but I don’t really like redundant banners. If you win the Presidents’ Trophy, you don’t really need a Division and Conference banner… That you finished first in your Division and Conference are implied by the fact that you’ve won the Presidents’ Trophy.
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by iwearstripes on Jan 18, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
but you can win your conference without winning your division.
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IMO, the Presidents’ Trophy is worth commemorating as a thing that is won, like the Wales Trophy or Stanley Cup are (would be), whereas regular season standings positions are closer to having been last team standing when the music stopped.
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by CapitalCentre on Jan 18, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
but you can win your conference without winning your division.
How so, if the division winners are seeded 1-3 in the conference standings?
by HockeyGoalie29 on Jan 18, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
The 1998 Caps finished third in the Atlantic Division, and won the conference playoffs.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jan 18, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
yup, this.
the 2010 Eastern Conference Champion is the Philadelphia Flyers, who finished 3rd in the Atlantic. 2009 champs are the Pens, who finished 2nd in the division.
It’s because the NHL recognizes the team that wins the Conference Championship, aka Round 3 of the playoffs, as the conference champs. There’s no trophy for winning the regular season conference.
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But there is a banner for winning the regular season conference title there, right? That banner for 09-10 and 10-11 makes the SE division champs banner redundant.
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by red army line on Jan 18, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
they just added those reg season titles. Yesterday.
I can’t confirm that Detroit does reg. season conf champs banners, as JP posted they do, because I wasn’t looking for those when I went to the Joe last season. But I did make sure to see that they hang division banners, some of which came in seasons they won everything. it’s not like the Caps are going way off the board here with how they do their banners.
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All Kinds of Banners
I count 5 for the 2007-2008 season, including the Cup banner (not shown in the photo).

Agree with others though, it’s definitely cooler when there’s a separate section for all of your Cup banners.
by Twenty Seven Ninety on Jan 18, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
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yeah, Mr. B made sure to take pictures of the super special Cups-only section of the rafters. And count them. Slowly. And loudly. And lingered on 1998.

Yes, I’m terribly jealous. Terribly.
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Ah, gotcha. I assumed you were talking about finishing first in the regular season since the discussion was on the two banners, one of which is for the regular season conference championship.
by HockeyGoalie29 on Jan 18, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
Warning: today’s Nooner is depressing. But it’s up. View it… if you dare!
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We seem to be making progress as a fanbase. We’re at depression, just one more step until acceptance and burying the 2009-2010 Capitals.
The Five Stages of Fan Grief (Capitals Style)
1. Cynicism (“right, like they’ll ever be good,” heard during sell of in 2004-2005)
2. Curiosity (“Hey, heard this Ovechkin kid is good,” heard in 2005-2006)
3. Hope (“Well, we’ll be better next year and good times are ahead,” heard after loss to Flyers in 2008 playoffs)
4. Expectation (“Next year, we win it all,” heard after 2009, 2010 playoffs)
5. Resignation (“Oh well, the window’s closing on this bunch, at least they were entertainng for a while” heard after 2011 playoffs and this year)
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Jan 18, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
There should be a “Realization” stage -
4.5) Realization (“Yep, 3-1 series lead blown… these are the Washington Capitals” after 2010’s playoff loss.)
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jan 18, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
Where’s Crippling Nausea?
That'll make your weagle wink!
"You're the boss, apple sauce" - @GreenLife52
That was back in 1992 with the 3-1 lead blown to the Pens…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jan 18, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
I hope somewhere in our future is:
5.5. Ecstasy (“All that futility was worth it.”)
by Joran on Jan 18, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
What’s old is new again!
1. Cynicism (“They went to the Finals then missed the playoffs – that was their chance, and now it’s gone,” heard after 1998-99 season)
2. Curiousity (“Hey, their goalie just won the Vezina and they’re back in the playoffs… if they could only add some offense,” heard after 1999-2000 season)
3. Hope (“Now we’ve got Jagr – good times are ahead,” heard July 11, 2001)
4. Expectation (“Alright, that guy can’t possibly have another year as awful as the one he just had – add Lang, he’ll be fine and the Caps will roll,” heard summer 2002)
5. Resignation (“Oh well, the window’s closed on this bunch – at least they gave us a couple of playoff appearances” heard Fall, 2003.)
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by J.P. on Jan 18, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I could go back and apply the same model through the 80s and 90s, too, I bet.
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1. Cynicism ("This is the team that went 8-67-5 and has never made the playoffs, and anybody think they’ll do it now? Yeah, in another city"," heard after Rod Langway trade was made and Caps were almost outta here)
2. Curiousity ("Hey, this Langway guy is good…add Gartner and Carpenter and Stevens…may-bee," heard as Caps were getting beat by Islanders in first playoffs experiences)
3. Hope ("Well, even though they lost to the Rangers, maybe this team can still get over the hump)," heard after Caps lost to Rangers in 1986)
4. Expectation ("OK, they lost to the Bruins in hte conference finals, but they’ll go all the way next year," heard after Caps were swept by Boston in 1990)
5. Resignation ("We’ll NEVER win the Cup if we keep having to play Pittsburgh in the playoffs" pick a year in the 1990’s, you probably heard it.)
If you've read this far...seek help.
I am ready to add 6. Slit My Wrist. The most discouraging aspect of this history of frustration is that I think over the past summer most hockey cognoscenti thought that the Caps finally had the best personnel to capture the Stanley, i.e. GMGM had put together the ‘right pieces’ to complement the Young Guns. In the earlier years, it seemed there were always some missing pieces despite having the Langways, Oates’, Stevens, Gartners, etc.
On paper, this is perhaps the best roster the Caps have put together, certainly since the mid-1980’s. On ice, between injuries and what appears to be a lack of equal parts chemistry, focus, and hockey sense (it seems), it is a lot less than the sum of its parts.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Jan 18, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’ve been going through Denial, Anger, Bargaining, and Depression:
- Denial: This team still has the pieces to be great. It’s still a top team in the NHL!
- Anger: Dammit Hamrlik/Ward/Semin/Ovi/entire team. You guys are better than this! Play the fuck harder!
- Bargaining: All we need is a healthy Mike Green. All we need is a healthy Mike Green
- Depression: It wasn’t the coach, it’s the players. This team sucks and we’re doomed.
I go back up to Denial after every win.
Denial is not such a bad place to be in. Those other spots however….!
Knuble: "I am what I am. I play well with good players."
On his milestone: "It's going to be like unwrapping a birthday present. Then the day after you're kind of like [sighs]....Now you just have to keep going."
by capsyoungguns on Jan 18, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
This will solve all of the Caps' problems...
"He leaves every ounce of energy that he has on the ice and works very hard at it, and he wants to be the best and he wants to win, If you don’t follow that, you’ve got something wrong with you."
Fascinating. I hadn’t actually seen what the Flyer’s did in response to TB’s 1-3-1, but oh my that was pretty static. Although similar to BB’s (and Bylsma’s) tactic of not advancing the puck, the players stayed in motion. Greenie as I recall was passing the puck back and forth to his partner.
Oh and I did laugh.
Knuble: "I am what I am. I play well with good players."
On his milestone: "It's going to be like unwrapping a birthday present. Then the day after you're kind of like [sighs]....Now you just have to keep going."
by capsyoungguns on Jan 18, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
I posted this the other day in the OT thread, but I think it’s worth posting here: A read on concussions, Crosby and Madden. I’m not surprised, but I found Primeau’s comments near the end of the piece of interest.
Crosby has been a ghost since an errant and entirely accidental elbow from the Boston Bruins’ David Krejci
I thought this sentence was going to end " Washington Capitals’ David Steckel." Was going to be surprised that it was called “accidental”.
by kingbonehead on Jan 18, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
I’m surprised that Krejci’s was called accidental, that was much more deliberate.
Please, call me F&B.
Primeau’s comments were interesting but I cringe when people force Probert into the “darkness swallowed him” camp. He died of a heart attack.
Please, call me F&B.
… because his heart had been consumed by darkness.
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I think it’s less about his death and more about what came before, but my first reaction was similar in a why mention the specific players in that manner.
As to the Krejci/Steckel line, I had the same fill in the blank response when I first read it, expecting to see Steckel not Krejci. At this point, I don’t even recall the Krejci/Crosby one so I’d have to go back and look.
It was different to read something that didn’t even mention Steckel, but I was more interested in sharing this piece because of the overall writing and message and Primeau’s comments.
Late in the day prospect news, so I was looking for information about whether Carrier’s missing the game this weekend was due to injury (one article says injury but nothing else.) I didn’t find anything, but decided to look for an update on Greg Burke.
And in good news department, I assumed (yeah yeah) Burke wasn’t playing after the news about his hand, but it ends up the original diagnosis and need for surgery was wrong and he has played in 3 games in January. Link to Burke update
Also, another Caps prospect on the sidelines may be back playing this weekend, Garrett Haar. link




































