Monday Caps Clips: Nothing Could Be Finer
by EmilyB on Jan 16, 2012 9:31 AM EST
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Your savory breakfast links:
- Recaps and other assorted musings on last night's win from us, Caps365 video (Hunter, Caps players, Muller, Canes players), Vogs, Capitals Voice (audio), NHL.com, WaPo (gamer, blog), WashTimes (gamer, blog), CSNW (blog, Beninati), DCEx (blog), 106.7 The Fan, Puck Daddy, Frankovic, Peerless, KOL, RMNB, Examiner, CRtC, hockey yelling, and clydeorama (pics).
- Dmitry Orlov's first NHL goal was cause for celebration for the player, his teammates, and their fans. [Caps OT, RMNB, OFB, Rise of DC Sports, WashTimes (with interview transcript), YouTube via @Caps_Girl]
- Another fan favorite - the textbook Alex Ovechkin highlight-reel hit. Especially when it's on Tuomo Ruutu . [RMNB, PHT]
- Marcus Johansson, get in my belly. [YouTube via @TheRealEddy]
- Jeff Halpern apparently likes to play Words With Friends. [yfrog video via @bsrfrromtheneck]
- One! All your fault! [CSNW, and video]
- The Week That Was, Volume 14. [Peerless, KOL, NFTN, hockey yelling]
- Life in the Show has been pretty fantastic for John Walton. [Patriot-News]
- Ranking the Top Ten NHL general managers. [thesportsbank.com]
- Buried in this extremely worth-your-time column by Jim Matheson is what amounts to a CraigsList ad for Jeff Schultz. In the "To Let" section, unfortunately. [Edmonton Journal]
- Concussions. All the cool kids are having them. [DCEx]
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The video clip doesn’t seem to do full justice to the Ovechkin hit. During the commercial break, CSN was working on the clip, running it back and forth, starting with him wiping out, which doesn’t show in the clip. I got to enjoy watching it several times on the press box screens.
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This link has the slightly longer-play version:
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The official...
The official is lucky he didn’t catch a skate blade from Ruutu on that play. Ruutu damn near hamstrung him.
I don't know, maybe it was the roses...
Per Jim Matheson:
The Washington Capitals are looking to move Jeff Schultz, a sturdy blue-liner but with semi-slow feet.
Question is: what would they get back?
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by NGreenberg on Jan 16, 2012 7:30 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
5th round pick. /Keeley’d
Or an in-contract forward and a pick which I’d presume would be the most likely scenario.
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by Bald Pollack on Jan 16, 2012 7:42 AM EST up reply actions
in-contract forward and a pick? That sounds high to me.
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Well the Caps may take an expiring contract in the hopes of betterment and get a pick thrown in as a favor from the other team? Other than that, I got nothing.
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by Bald Pollack on Jan 16, 2012 7:54 AM EST up reply actions
Also:
He’s a gentle giant; hardly any penalty minutes, like a Hal Gill.
If this is a reasonable assessment, are there any other ways he is Hal Gill-like?
by Acer Jonesy's Laughker on Jan 16, 2012 7:49 AM EST up reply actions
First and last name have one syllable.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Jan 16, 2012 8:16 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Obviously the caps are trading Schultz for Gill. #howrumorsstart
by TFG on Jan 16, 2012 8:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Both Schultz and Gill are students of the game and are very good at positioning. They know where they should be in most cases, but sometimes have trouble getting there. Both have to play in a zone defensive scheme and will have trouble in a man-to-man defense like Hunter likes…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jan 16, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe him and a pick for a decent player?
Failure is always an option.
by timmyv38 on Jan 16, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We managed to get a 1st rounder when we traded Steve Eminger, another young Caps defenseman who was having a log of pressbox duty.
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IIRC Eminger had more offensive upside than Schultz…sometimes that pays. Though I’m sure there’s a GM out there that’ll pay a pretty penny for Schultz based on his size alone….think MLB player that has power but strikes out a ton.
I was looking at the +/- stats and wasn’t surprised that Ovi is -7.
But Brooks is also -7, and Knuble is -9!
With Ovi I always figure it is his high risk/reward style that leads to goals against. For Brooks and Knuble, is this an indication of their playing more defensive minutes on the penalty kill? Lack of their driving the offensive play? Is this stat even meaningful?
(Chimera, Halpern and Ward are all +6 or +7…)
I think it’s different for the two players. For Laich, it reflects him getting brutal ES assignments. He’s in the top 20 in Corsi Rel QOC, so he’s facing a lot of tough competition.
Knuble’s faced average competition, so he doesn’t have that excuse. I think Knuble’s playing a bit better now (he’s always been a slow starter) but my explanation for his +/- is that he just wasn’t playing very well through most of the season.
Also, +/- is a deeply flawed stat…
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by Gould Old Days on Jan 16, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions
Hey Neil, any #fancystats on how many times Haply gets tossed from the face off dot? Seems like he gets tossed from every other draw he lines up for. Not sure if he has a rep but some of the instances last night were pretty benign given that guys cheat on every draw.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
I don’t, only because they don’t log when a player is tossed on the PxP data.
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Wait, you don’t keep you own stats on the fly? If you would deputized me as an official fancy stat keeper for one game, I’ll try and track that. It’s not an insignificant issue given their reliance on him to take big draws.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Jan 16, 2012 8:28 AM EST up reply actions
Wait, you don’t keep you own stats on the fly?
Only scoring chances. That takes up most of my time/attention in-game.
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24-17 Canes
13-13 at 5v5
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I would have guessed they were close, with a slight advantage to Carolina at evens. But this doesn’t surprise me much. They really did take a large number of low probability shots.
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by Gould Old Days on Jan 16, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
tilted a little bit towards Car but the 13-13 at 5v5 is encouraging. Again seems like Car just threw a lot of rubber on net hoping for a goal compared to the Caps taking fewer shots but higher quality shots.
by Beakers Lab on Jan 16, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
On the other hand, Carolina is one of the worst possession teams in the league, and on the second leg of a B2B. That would be like tying Anaheim or Minnesota in scoring chances.
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by red army line on Jan 16, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
This. Playing to a draw with CAR is not such a good sign.
It has been noted before but the strategy under DH seems to be to reduce each game to a coin flip and hope to come out on top.
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the Run-and-gun game can be argued to be a coin flip as well.since your opponent can score more easily
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by BetterOffWith28 on Jan 16, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Well, individual game results are essentially a coin flip to start with. You can, however, weight the coin by generating more chances than the opponent.
In the past the Caps have dramatically outchanced the opposition. This year, under DH, they aren’t. That’s what makes me nervous.
Anyhow, the Caps are basically a mediocre team right now and I anticipate they will get mediocre results the rest of the way. Fortunately for them and us, FLA is also a mediocre team, so it probably remains a dogfight down the stretch to see who takes the Division.
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the Run-and-gun game can be argued to be a coin flip as well.since your opponent can score more easily
The Caps’ game from 07-10 is commonly referred to as “run and gun” but that’s not the same as “trading chances.” The Caps were a top-5 possession team in 07-08 and 08-09, so I highly doubt they were trading chances. In 09-10, they were one of the best shot quality-controlling teams, though perhaps trading chances a little more than in the past two years.
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by red army line on Jan 16, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
Randoms ASG conversation
I was doing a little reading on the NHL all star game today. I was just trying to find the date and ended up reading the wiki on the history of it. Looks like back in the day (pre 1947) it wasn’t a regular thing. Before that the only “all star” games were random benefit games.
Does anyone know if the ASG uses any proceeds for benefits/charities nowadays?
it’s a money-making venture for the NHL these days. Whatever team and city hosts gets some nice money as well.
when I went to the Minnesota-hosted game, you could “donate” $5 to Children’s Miracle Network to have your picture taken with the Stanley Cup. that’s probably the most charity-focused aspect of the ASG these day.
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by thebreakawaygoal on Jan 16, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, the better he plays the smaller the chance he stays, I think. Same goes for Green (if he plays, though, not how well he plays).
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by red army line on Jan 16, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
I watched last nights game on the one 32" tv in the sports bar that had it on with no sound…why the hell was BL21’s goal waved off..
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but the goal was disallowed after video review showed Laich had interfered with Ward during the play.
That’s not accurate. The referees decided on the ice that there was interference. Interference cannot be established via video. At least that’s my understanding.
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Yea I mean that was my gripe with it…it was ruled a goal on the ice….if it was GI it should have been called at the time of the shot…I hate that like I hate matching minors for tripping/diving
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Whyno said that the two referees disagreed; the closer one thought it was a goal (and so indicated) while the further referee washed it out due to incidental contact. Apparently, when the two refs disagree, they can call up Toronto and ask for them to rule.
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No way. Really?
Where is the video of the second referee washing out the goal?
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Let’s ask Knuble:
"Something wasn’t making sense there," alternate captain Mike Knuble said. "I had to ask them in a commercial break what was happening. I just didn’t get the flow, it just didn’t sound right the way the system works. For it to be called a goal on the ice, he said they overruled it on the ice. Then Toronto’s calling and I don’t get it."
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I should have kept the recording. I want to look over it again.
So was it one of those issues where they said the goal was disallowed because of GI, but if that was the case then technically they should have called a GI penalty, but didn’t?
No – you can have incidental contact that wipes off a goal without a penalty. Remember Ovi’s goal against the Pens in the Winter Classic? Same thing.
The odd thing here was that the referee close to the play signaled goal and didn’t give a wash out signal. The refs and linesmen got together, and I give them credit for that, and discussed. Out of that came the incidental contact.
My guess is that they went to Toronto to check if it went of Laich’s glove, but simultaneously ruled incidental contact, making the call to Toronto irrelevant.
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I’m not willing to give the refs any credit for the huddle. The whole incident was badly handled. They failed to announce to the arena why the goal was disallowed. The whole arena was angry and confused especially as the replays showed very minimal contact which didn’t affect Ward’s ability to make the save. The reports as to why Toronto was involved are conflicting, to the extent that it’s not clear who called whom. I’m calling it bogus that the closest ref was overruled. Why would a far ref looking at Laich’s back have better insight on if there was incidental contact or not.
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by capsyoungguns on Jan 16, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for the link, as I did not see the game at all, so I am pleased to see what the hullabaloo was all about.
Personally, I think you have to assume you’re going to get some bad calls and some borderline calls that go against you.
I would classify that one as borderline.
Sweet move by Brooksie, though.
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Pretty good call by the refs there, I thought. If Laich doesn’t make contact with Ward, he doesn’t knock the puck off the goalie’s shoulder, and it probably doesn’t go in.
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When the call was made on the ice, and I saw the replay on the board, my gut instinct was “good goal.” I read Whyno’s piece on the BL goal, in which he cites Rule 78.5(v), and I felt it was a stretch to say that Laich’s goal was disallowed because Laich “interfered with a goalkeeper in his goal crease.” The problem I had with that logic, is that the goal was reversed based on what the other 3 officials saw. If the back referee saw interference with the goaltender, the goal is getting waved off, and Brooksie is headed to the sin bin for two minutes for Interference on the Goaltender. No such penalty was assessed, so I had a hard time buying that explanation.
So I pulled out the rulebook, and took a closer look at Rule 69 – Interference on the Goalkeeper. It would seem the officials on the ice didn’t feel the contact was intentional, and thus skipped over Rules 69.1 and 69.2, which provide an overview of which instances should be penalized. The relevant rule here seems to be 69.3, which covers contact inside the crease. The first paragraph is particularly relevant, as the description seems to fit the scenario quite well.
69.3 Contact Inside the Goal Crease – If an attacking player initiates contact with a goalkeeper, incidental or otherwise, while the goalkeeper is in his goal crease, and a goal is scored, the goal will be disallowed.
This is consistent with the explanation Hunter was given, of “incidental contact with the goalie.” Now, I don’t think that rule has been consistently applied, but watching the play, and looking at the rule, I can buy the explanation.
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by iwearstripes on Jan 16, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
They also failed to inform the public why the goal was rescinded, which is also in the rule book. In hindsight I think that’s a large part of why I was so peeved. I’ve been disappointed at other goal/nongoal calls, but not this disgusted and distrustful. Normally I admire refs and believe they get undue criticism. Not so last night.
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by capsyoungguns on Jan 16, 2012 2:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The lack of a formal announcement was really disappointing, and borderline unprofessional. If you’re going to reverse a goal call, the fans pay enough for tickets where a brief explanation shouldn’t be an unreasonable expectation.
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by iwearstripes on Jan 16, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Couldn’t agree more with you. This kind of thing needs transparency. We need to be able to trust the refs, especially the public there who don’t have the benefit of an explanation by the talking heads on TV. Moreover i and others around me knew enough to be thoroughly confused as to why they were talking to Toronto when a goalie interference or incidental contact is not reviewable. It was clear it had to be some concern with goalie contact, despite the near ref calling it good initially.
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by capsyoungguns on Jan 16, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
I suspect they were checking to see if the puck had gone over the goal line prior to the contact? Just guessing, but that’s the only thing that I can figure.
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Based on the replay angle I saw in the arena, I thought they were checking whether it went in off Brooksie’s glove.
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by iwearstripes on Jan 16, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
I thought it might have been the timing of the puck over the goal line. Or that the refs couldn’t come to an agreement so they needed a ruling body. I didn’t suspect the glove.
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by capsyoungguns on Jan 16, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
Having now finally seen the play, and after this great explanation (thanks, stripes), I’m OK with what happened. We can only wish that the NHL would call it this way every time.
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by Gould Old Days on Jan 16, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
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Since when is incidental contact reviewable? The Caps sure could’ve used a review in the 3rd period of game 7 vs. Montreal a couple of years back. Absolute BS.
by David C. Rothman on Jan 16, 2012 9:40 AM EST reply actions
So, when/why did this happen, exactly?
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There was a scrum in front of the goal in the third period. Harrison got all up in Vokoun’s business (couple of slashes), so Hendricks had to regulate. Coincidental minors.
It was pretty fun to watch.
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Canes were taking some liberties in the crease with some extra whacks on Vokoun and Hendricks was having none of it
by Beakers Lab on Jan 16, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
And thank god. I’ve noticed in the last few games that guys are less inclined to let the other team take liberties w/ their goalie than they had in the past – I’m not in the "HE MUST BE AVENGED" crowd but the one area in which I’ve thought the team needed more toughness was around the net, and they’ve stepped up in the last week or so. Hope it continues.
I liked that there was some applause from the crowd and that a couple of the guys stood up and tapped their sticks on the boards when Hendy got out of the box after serving his time for that one…nice acknowledgement of a job well done.
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It was. I think I really only saw the aftermath, not the actual slam.
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I didn’t see the game at all, but I think I could watch this clip rather a lot.
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I had a really good time. This was the first regular season game I’ve been able to go to, and was lucky enough to get GoalieMama’s tickets, so the seats were the best I’ve ever had. And, of course, our boys won, so it was a blast.
I took a friend who had never been to a live hockey game before, and he had fun.
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Thanks for that view, from my seats we could only see the Caine’s skates up in the air. And as my hubby is a wresting coach he loved the take town, very impressed that it was done on ice.
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by caps_shutterbug on Jan 16, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
Beautiful. Thanks for this. I mostly saw the aftermath—Skinner suddenly slammed down. But I too far for a good view. Good on Hendy. Skinner was getting away with all kinds of crap.
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by capsyoungguns on Jan 16, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
I have to say that my seats were in the perfect spot, and I was looking at exactly the right place when that happened, and it was amazing.
I always love Hendy, but I was loving him extra hard in that moment. Harrison has a couple inches of height on him, it seemed, but he did a beautiful, beautiful thing there. I loved that folks in the crowd cheered him, not only at the time, but when he came out of the box, too.
It’s all a part of us being “harder to play against,” which I think is one of those important intangibles that can’t be measured in fancy stats, but shows up on the scoreboard. Maybe we get that kind of game going, and putting more rubber on the net follows?
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#Caps winger Jason Chimera is on the ice at Kettler way ahead of his teammates this morning, skating with his mini-me.
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Sounds like daddy taking the kids to work on a school holiday. All i got to do was go to my dad’s law office and make photocopies of my face pushed against the screen.
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by STLSpidey on Jan 16, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions 13 recs
“Dad, how ’bout a brush-up on the backhand? Pipes only.”
Cross check and all call.
by bigonetimer on Jan 16, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
Sweet.
Knuble: "I am what I am. I play well with good players."
On his milestone: "It's going to be like unwrapping a birthday present. Then the day after you're kind of like [sighs]....Now you just have to keep going."
by capsyoungguns on Jan 16, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
Speaking of big Chimmer, is it me or has anyone else noticed that he seems to be skating even faster – if that is possible – this year? One of my favorite pleasures during a game is to watch his skating, a thing of beauty. He really does, though, seem to be beating guys to the puck faster and getting up and down the ice even quicker than before. Truly amazing.
by Wilderthing on Jan 16, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
This is my take as well. These three are incredibly gifted. But Chimera has seemed particularly energized lately.
Knuble: "I am what I am. I play well with good players."
On his milestone: "It's going to be like unwrapping a birthday present. Then the day after you're kind of like [sighs]....Now you just have to keep going."
by capsyoungguns on Jan 16, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Which is amazing, because I think I remember Green saying he didn’t start playing hockey until 14 — which is absurdly late to develop a stride. When you think about it, even the majority of the 4th line scrappers and career AAAAHLers started playing when they could stand up. He is just amazing naturally. It’s the key to his one-man breakout.
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Jan 16, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
no, he started at 8 or 9, iirc. “Late” for an elite NHLer, later for most Canadian kids, for sure, but not insanely late. Green started playing major-junior in the WHL at 15.
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My mistake. It was one of those little video clips so I couldn’t find it to double check. I thought he said something about “all my friends were doing it so I just decided to try it and it was a lot of fun” but I might be making the whole thing up at this point.
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Jan 16, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
the story of Mike Green starting hockey in his teens has been making the rounds, just trying to nip it in the bud.
his inability to stay healthy is awful. he’s just so freakishly talented, losing what he brings to the NHL just sucks.
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Glad you wrote this. I was corrected by someone a few months back saying that he started in his early teens. I was surprised but didn’t question it.
Knuble: "I am what I am. I play well with good players."
On his milestone: "It's going to be like unwrapping a birthday present. Then the day after you're kind of like [sighs]....Now you just have to keep going."
by capsyoungguns on Jan 16, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
here’s an video interview (and transcribed) with Mike. he says picked up hockey at 9. I know he’s not always a brightest bulb, but I think he probably remembers when he started playing :)
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Heh, heh—true dat!
Thanks for the link. I love information.
Knuble: "I am what I am. I play well with good players."
On his milestone: "It's going to be like unwrapping a birthday present. Then the day after you're kind of like [sighs]....Now you just have to keep going."
by capsyoungguns on Jan 16, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve died of teh cute.
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The Knublets were out after practice again as well.
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Any pics?
Knuble: "I am what I am. I play well with good players."
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by capsyoungguns on Jan 16, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
None from me, sadly. :(
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I need to start attending practices and taking my own pics. I go sporadically but I always have a good time.
Knuble: "I am what I am. I play well with good players."
On his milestone: "It's going to be like unwrapping a birthday present. Then the day after you're kind of like [sighs]....Now you just have to keep going."
by capsyoungguns on Jan 16, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
I do enjoying seeing Chimera modelling good behavior for his kiddo. Wear your darn helmet on the ice!
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one step at a time. the number of guys on this team that take warm-ups without a helmet is crazy.
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Chimera’s wife’s hands are made of chromium, and as a result the kid’s hands are stainless steel.
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by Gould Old Days on Jan 16, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
My favorite moment was when they were getting ready to leave the ice, BabyChimmer went and hugged his dad’s leg, which he is almost as tall/long as, and Chimmer put his big gloved hand on his head. It basically covered the entire helmet. Ded of teh cute all over the place!
Also, this kid is, like, 3, and he is AMAZING on his skates. No wobbliness, no weird foot placement. Heck, I’ve seen kids his age less surefooted on dry land.
There was one moment when Chimera was clearing pucks back to the net and one clipped off his son’s skate. The kid barely budged.
by jopierce on Jan 16, 2012 6:35 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Just a reminder that with the holiday, there’s afternoon hockey today.
NSH at NYI at 1 (eastern)
COL at PHX at 4 (eastern)
plus ECHL SC Stingrays play at 1 in Reading, PA.
Can anybody say if Skinner’s behavior yesterday was out of character? I really don’t remember him doing a lot of asshattery previously.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro"
Like the tantrum .gif? Me either : )
Cross check and all call.
by bigonetimer on Jan 16, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Having a foot stomping hissy falldown fit without making contact with anybody is one thing, slew footing and taking liberties with your stick is another. The next game vs the Canes could get interesting.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro"
Yeah, I was being snarky. I just hope the Raleigh game features two teams ready to play 60.
Cross check and all call.
by bigonetimer on Jan 16, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
Happy 6th Anniversary of the goal in Phoenix.
by sk84fun_dc on Jan 16, 2012 10:34 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
I read about this, but seeing it, just wow, sometimes a handshake line isn’t a good idea.
UND Minnesota handshake line youtube video
We do a handshake line after our Adult League games. Sometimes it that ABSOLUTE last thing I want to do after a loss. But it’s good sportsmanship.
Look at me, Dustin! I'm a F%^king Icon!
I just wonder what Rau did or did not say to Blood, but um yeah, this one didn’t lead to ‘good sportsmanship’.
Kick him off the team! It worked for Matt Frattin!
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Per Gophers twitter, Nick Larson broke his wrist yesterday and needs surgery. :(
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bah, I was catching up just now and some prospects, but hadn’t seen that info. yet. Thanks for the heads up.
Not sure what his name is… not #17, who I suppose is Rua, but #21 of Minnesota caused that whole incident with a cheap shot from the back as the game ended, coming off the bench and essentially slewfooting Blood with his stick as Blood was being pushed away from another Minnesota player by the official. That was what incensed Blood. I’m not sure if Blood thought it was Rua, but #21 of Minnesota should get the brunt of any disciplinary action. Total cowardly cheap shot to Blood when his back was turned.
I don't know, maybe it was the roses...
In Canada(we just came back from an Int’l tourney in Toronto) they do the handshake before the game…before everyone gets pissed off. Turned out to be a good thing.
So we all know Vokoun has been playing great lately and the Caps have finally been putting some win streaks together. I’m curious as to whether we’re getting wins and solid play out of Vokoun because he’s getting more starts and therefore is more comfortable, or is he getting more starts because he’s playing better? Or is it both? Anyone have any stats on team success versus whether or not goalies split time?
Being a die hard footy fan I do nothing but shake my head most nights to most of our “chants”
by ididntdoit on Jan 16, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Rec’d for truth.
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by Bald Pollack on Jan 16, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
The problem isn’t that it is so college, the problem is that the fans don’t do it nearly as well as college hockey fans do. College hockey has the best chants of any sport.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
I would disagree. Take a trip to any European football loving country and go take in a proper match. Just to name a few, you have Celtic fans sing their own rendition of a Depechmode song, Tottenham fans sing their own version of when the saints come marching in.. Im sorry but North American sports don’t hold a match to what goes on in other countries in terms of fan participation. BTW a little OT but how have I just now noticed that ravens fans have taken on the seven nation army chant that is so popular with some Premier league teams?
And the premiership teams took it from Germany at Euro cup. Stuff spreads. Also, Mexican soccer crowds are totally on par with Europes.
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by Whiter Mage on Jan 17, 2012 4:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Looks like someone’s got a problem going on a road trip to Montreal:
SWhynoStephen Whyno
Help the man out? … RT @CodyEakin50: Anybody want to drive my passport down from Hershey for a couple tickets to tomorrows game?
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Cody Eakin doesn’t feel like driving up to Hershey and back today :)
Anybody want to drive my passport down from Hershey for a couple tickets to tomorrows game?
Gas and food money included!
Note to hockey players called up, bring your passport even if the next game doesn’t require one :)
I’ll do it in a heart beat, if I were on vacation.
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by BetterOffWith28 on Jan 16, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds like some people are doing it; I hope they disclosed they plan to blog about it before accepting the offer. I assume there are Hershey fans who would have wanted the tickets and been willing to make the drive, but that’s between Eakin and the people doing it.
Funny, with Hershey off and with Stingrays playing in Reading, PA, he probably could have found a fan coming back from Reading (only a little out of the way) or a Hershey player willing to bring it down.
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words cannot adequately express my love of this article, and I’m only up to:
After all, which team would you rather watch purely from an entertainment standpoint – the Washington Capitals from a few years back or last year’s Lightning?
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Not since the days when they had the three-headed monster of Dominik Hasek, Curtis Joseph and Manny Legace in 2003-04 have the Red Wings devoted a lot of financial resources to goaltending. But that’s clearly all right when you have Nicklas Lidstrom on defense and a bunch of forwards who always have the puck. It doesn’t work so well when your guys give up 30 shots a game.
Take Sunday’s game against the Pittsburgh Penguins for example. The Lightning went down 2-0 on home ice on two very stoppable goals that got past Mathieu Garon.
One, hahaha. Burn.
Two, same thing against Washington. The first two goals were pretty bad.
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interesting what team ultimately one the Cup that season, despite the Wings’ high-priced, highly talented three-headed goalie monster.
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The SC Stingrays gave the Hershey and Washington fans who trekked to Reading, PA, something to be happy about with a 4-3 comeback win.
Grubauer in goal; Flemming 1g/1a
This post is about Belanger’s contract, but I find amusing that the Oilers GM is looking at Capgeek.
"Money talks. I listen."
Now I hate Malkin and think he’s an incredibly dirty player, but how can the NBC crew really compare his ducking away from Lecavalier’s hit to Marchand submarining Salo? (as seen at the end of this Puck Daddy piece). Malkin ducked to the avoid the check and kept moving along the boards. Marchand ducked (even lower than Malkin did) and moved into Salo’s knees. I don’t see how these are even remotely the same thing in terms of dirty hits.
Come on NBC, Malkin has enough legitimate dirty plays to harp on without making them up.
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Once you take the fisting element out, it's not romantic anymore.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Jan 16, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
Totally agree
As far as I could tell, all Malkin did was avoid getting hit. I can’t see hoiw ducking under a check is considered dirty. Yes, if you go into the players legs and/or lift up to try to flip them or drive them headfirst into the boards, that would be dirty. But all Malkin did was duck the check and keep moving. I’ve often wondered why defensemen don’t do that more when going back to retrieve in the corners… Play the puck then duck and move rather than play the puck then get splattered into the boards.
I don't know, maybe it was the roses...
The Carolina Hurricanes got Jeff Skinner back in the lineup Sunday, so that was a plus.
Jussi Jokinen scored a goal, his first in 25 games. Make it another plus for the Canes.
But losing to the Washington Capitals stung. And especially losing on a goal by a 20-year-old rookie defenseman who had never scored in the NHL.
Chip Alexander, Canes beat reporter (one of the great beat reporters, actually)
I’d feel bad if only the Caps haven’t been handing out first, second and third goals like party favors all year.
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Obviously they can spin the story however they want. But the fact of the matter is: regardless of how mediocre the caps have been playing, it doesn’t make up for the fact that the Canes are pretty damn bad. I don’t think the loss should sting them that much. In fact, I would see it as a game they played really well and can build on.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jan 16, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
I think Mike Green should be in the mascot on the far right!
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by Whiter Mage on Jan 17, 2012 5:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Sounds like Crosby is still having pretty substantial post-concussion issues. Set-back from skating the other day?
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Funny, I had just commented on this over in the OT just because.
Now, I’m no M.D., and I’m as tired of reading about Sid’s concussion issues as much as the next person, but if he’s having an issue with motion and balance (latest updates), has anyone thought about an inner ear issue rather than a brain injury?
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I was typing that up when your post popped up. I wonder if he’s having vision issues and they are assuming it’s from the concussion. Although if he only has issues after exercise that would more than likely eliminate that as a cause. Vision issues would affect him around the clock.
Looking good, Potsy
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by boutros23 on Jan 16, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’d take him back. I bet Pothier > Kundratek
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by Gould Old Days on Jan 16, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
True now. Next year, I’m not so sure.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jan 16, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
Two snarks and fifty-three jibes
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by Gould Old Days on Jan 17, 2012 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
and I just commented on your OT post :)
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Why'd they put him on a plane then?
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Here is an article from Medscape that interviewed Crosby about concussions. http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/749382 I’m not sure how to make it a direct link.
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by caps_shutterbug on Jan 16, 2012 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
VogsCaps Mike Vogel
#Caps defenseman Mike Green will undergo abdominal surgery and is expected to miss 4-6 weeks.
I’ve been waiting to read news like this; without knowing the details, seemed surgery might be a next step.
I just saw that as well. I really feel bad for the guy. Four to six more weeks puts him in early March. I guess we might have him for the stretch run.
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Oh and that “Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!” followed by THUMP!! was Mike Green’s agent screaming and hitting the floor.
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If Green comes back and puts up 30 points in the playoffs, though, I’m sure he won’t mind. Neither will I.
30 points in 7 playoff games would be extremely impressive.
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by Killer_Carlson on Jan 16, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Ouch.
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by Backeez Got Back on Jan 16, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
I’m thinking $5.25 million to spend at the deadline. Opportunity to keep him out until the playoffs like last year. Of course, that means he’ll have missed the entire season if that happens.
Oh, and what you said below, too. Good thing he’s RFA and probably gets qualified.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
If they decide to use the LTIR space between now and the deadline, he could stay on the sidelines until the playoffs (assuming Caps in playoffs, yes, I am assuming that as of now,) depending on what they do.
Unfortunately, one other caveat with the Trade Deadline/LTIR space, etc., is what happens with Backstrom.
To revisit the issue and make sure I’m clear – the Caps can’t bank Green’s salary, but they can use that space to bring someone else in. Right?
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as others said gotta think they use the cap space to bring in somebody else.
So they basically can add a $5.25 million salary…..
No sense in Green coming back to soon. Just bring him back for the playoffs.
Of course, in order to bring a defenseman (I presume) with a 5.25 million salary who is actually worth it, would require coughing up some good players.
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Depends on who it is and his contract status. Don’t go thinking Suter, I don’t see the Caps in the market for him as a UFA. (I got the right Predator, didn’t I?)
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Their ability to take on salary is limited somewhat by the sorts of players you could bring in with that money. There are two guys who are UFA at the end of the year who might make sense to “replace” Mike Green: Filip Kuba in Ottawa and Michal Roszival in Phoenix. Both of those guys could probably be acquired for picks if their respective teams are out of playoff contention.
If you look at RFAs, Kyle Quincey in Colorado would also make some sense, especially since some of the other young puck movers are making him redundant. Even still, I doubt the Avs want to give him up without getting a player in return.
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One thought is that with the (potential) realignment next year, the conventional wisdom about trading partners may be less relevant. I’d think Winnipeg and Tampa, if they both fall further out of contention, might be more willing trade partners than normally because they (probably) will not be in the SE next year. The isles may be a less likely trading partner for a similar reason.
So, IF the Caps were to make a move using Green’s cap space do they bring in a forward or D?
I’m thinking they go forward if they make a move, because Green would (hopefully) come back for the playoffs.
GMGM has stated that the Caps had problems in the playoffs over the last three years because of their lack of defensive depth – particularly a lack of good puck-movers who can make a solid first pass and get the puck out of the zone with control. Injuries to Mike Green and Dennis Wideman really hurt the Caps in the playoffs last year, and decimated defensive depth really hurt the Caps in ‘08-’09.
The Caps might acquire a forward if the bidding price for a puck-mover gets too high, but otherwise I’d expect them to target that sort of defenseman.
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But they can only add that space as long as Green stays on LTIR, right?
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Yes, they are already using a small amount already with the Eakin recall; using all of Poti’s LTIR space with both Eakin and Kundratek up, plus others.
Somebody just said on twitter per capgeek that Caps can add $5.05 million on salary at the trading deadline. Assuming you can add more if they trade #55.
Also, Ryan Zimmerman had abdominal surgery and it took him 9 weeks to come back.
The comment about Zimmerman is silly. Abdominal surgery and recovery varies considerably. For now, the Caps released a timeline of 4-6 weeks; the part I thought odd was that I’m assuming they announced this pre-surgery. Could easily learn of a revised estimate post-surgery or once rehab starts.
As to his recovery and expectations for playing this season, we’ll know a lot more based on what the Caps do and don’t trade at the deadline. Feb 27 3pm eastern time
Do you honestly believe everything the Caps say about injuries? Because I don’t. Didn’t they also say Green was day-to-day after he got hurt? Why did they have Green wait so long to have surgery? Nothing wrong with questioning the time frame they give out.
I’m not saying I believe the timeline the Caps stated. As I noted, I don’t understand announcing the estimate pre-surgery and before rehab is close to starting. I’m saying I don’t think you can point to one other injury for a player playing a different sport that had a surgery to the same region of the body and give a timeline either.
I’m taking all time estimates with many a grain of salt. One, he hasn’t had the surgery yet; two, every case is unique and rehabs aren’t all the same. Plus there are the cap issues with Green on LTIR and what the Caps do between now and Feb 27 at 3pm, also impacts what happens with Green and LTIR and post-trade deadline even if he’s healthy and cleared. Again, that’s even if he’s healthy and cleared, there might be a situation (like last season) where they couldn’t bring him back due to cap issues.
FWIW, I simply hope Green gets healthy for his own health and career. If he comes back to play this season, at this point especially pre-playoffs, it will be a surprise.
Poor Green! If the guy didn’t have bad luck, he’d have no luck at all. Time for someone to make a parody of the old Ray Charles song about that and substitute the events involving Mike Green over the last two seasons.
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Abdominal? Groin is abdominal?
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by Whiter Mage on Jan 17, 2012 5:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
For Fenwick timelines, note the change from (for last night’s game)
http://www.behindthenet.ca/Shots_2011_20659.html
to
http://behindthenet.ca/charts/Shots_2011_20659.php
Caps seemed to generate shots consistently throughout the game, but Carolina started getting them much more frequently after Semin scored.
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@adater: This is Jiggy’s team rest of the way.
Isn’t this the same guy who was crowing recently about how the Avs won the Varly trade because they were two points ahead of the Caps, while the Caps had three games in hand on the Avs?
Since when is trading a first and a second for a backup goaltender a good deal?
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Dater’s just a schizophrenic. Ignore him.
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Hey, let’s not make light of a serious mental condition to insult people. It’s not cool to say “retard”, and I don’t consider this any better.
by brooksengr on Jan 16, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Dater’s like a fan that overreacts to every game. Varly had a rough game, but it’s not like he’s all around been playing horrible. He’s had many very good games as well. I don’t take Dater too seriously.
If the Avs were concerned about not getting value out of the trade, they’d hire a full time goalie coach to work with their young inconsistent goalie. Instead they just let Giggy deal with it.
I agree it would be wise for the Avs to hire a full time goalie coach. But is it in their budget?
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Their owner is one of the richest guys out there. He also owns the Nuggets, Rapids (soccer) and the Rams, although I believe the NFL is forcing him to sell his interest in the other teams within a few years. In the meantime he handed ownership duties over to his son to pacify the NFL. The Avs are cheap because they want to be cheap.
Here is my latest roster proposal for next year, this time with Mike Green staying
Alexander Ovechkin ($9.538m) / Nicklas Backstrom ($6.700m) / Zach Parise ($6.700m)
Shane Doan ($4.550m) / Mattias Sjogren ($0.900m) / Troy Brouwer ($2.350m)
Marcus Johansson ($0.900m) / Brooks Laich ($4.500m) / Jason Chimera ($1.750m)
Joel Ward ($3.000m) / Matt Hendricks ($0.825m) / Cody Eakin ($0.637m)
DEFENSEMEN
Dennis Wideman ($4.937m) / Mike Green ($5.800m)
Karl Alzner ($1.285m) / John Carlson ($1.500m)
Dmitri Orlov ($0.900m) / Roman Hamrlik ($3.500m)
John Erskine ($1.500m)
GOALTENDERS
Michal Neuvirth ($1.150m) / Braden Holtby ($0.637m)
MOAR SEVERINO!
Neuvirth and Holtby. No.
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by nogoodtrying on Jan 16, 2012 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
here is the avalibe goaltender list. I would rather keep Green/Wideman than throw that money at these guys. I trust Holtby more than the lower dollar guys
Huet, Cristobal "
Brodeur, Martin "
Roloson, Dwayne "
Niittymaki, Antero "
Mason, Chris "
Leighton, Michael "
Vokoun, Tomas "
Ellis, Dan "
Gustavsson, Jonas "
Hedberg, Johan "
Clemmensen, Scott "
Auld, Alex "
Biron, Martin "
Backlund, Johan "
Conklin, Ty "
Harding, Josh "
Raycroft, Andrew "
Danis, Yann "
McElhinney, Curtis "
Montoya, Al "
Elliott, Brian "
Sanford, Curtis "
Johnson, Brent "
Emery, Ray "
Nabokov, Evgeni "
Lawson, Nathan "
McKenna, Mike "
Leggio, David "
Sabourin, Dany "
Bacashihua, Jason "
Munroe, Scott "
Climie, Matt "
Mannino, Peter "
MacIntyre, Drew
MOAR SEVERINO!
Is the 20 games of difference between Conklin and Holtby valuable enough to forego 40 games’ development for Holtby in Hershey?
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by red army line on Jan 16, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
Not getting into specifics about players you are wanting to bring in and sign for certain cap hits, but re. Kuznetsov (as I understand it Sjogren in the example), I don’t think his cap hit will be that low as I think he will have performance bonuses in his contract, if/when he signs.
Well, we have 500,000 to cover the bonuses :\
I tried to put in the players for the highest cap hit I thought was reasonable.
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FWIW, there may be a bonus cushion again, just have to wait and see, but I don’t think he comes over for salary plus signing bonus without performance bonuses. Just my opinion.
What is the bonus cushion? I really dont know how the cap works. Any chance the cap goes up with the new CBA?
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Shane Doan is turning 36 in Oct and I believe he wants to stay in Phoenix anyway and he’ll probably want a 3-4 yr contract. I’m not sure it would be wise to invest that kind of money on him at this point. Some of his stats so far this year:
46GP, 27pts (14G,13A), 19:39 TOI/G, PK: 0.47, PP:3:14
I rather keep Chimera who is three years younger for the next two years at $1.75M:
43GP, 22pts (14G,8A), 14:29 TOI/G, PK: 0.57, PP:0:47
Parise is also going to want a long term deal and close to $7M. I don’t think the Caps should invest any more money/cap space on wingers. Caps most’s expensive winger right now besides Ovi and Semin is Ward ($3M) and I’d like to keep it that way. The last three SC champions don’t have expensive wingers. The Bruins’ most expensive winger is Lucic ($4.083M), the Blackhawks’ is Kane ($6.3M) and I believe he’s being used as a C right now, and the Pens’ is Kunitz ($3.725M). The Caps need to save cap space for a legit 2C.
Lobbies: Green, Carlson, Orlov
I think we need someone to play wing
and I really dont want Semin back. We are already have all sorts of problems with the O this year, and I dont think it would be wise to let Semin walk without replacing his offense. If Doan wants 4 years than I would find someone else, 3 years would be hard to comit to. If you can get him for 2 years than I do it. If you can sugest to me a legit 2C that we can get I will be all for it, but right now I dont see any options out there. We have Chimera signed for the next few years so Doan would not affect him. I think that we need to get someone who can consitanly produce with the 6.7 in Semins cap space. To me Parise if the only option out there that gives us that. Also forgot to add that Sjogren=Kuznetsov
MOAR SEVERINO!
I don’t see the Caps making a trade for a 2C either. I think they are hoping Kuznetsov becomes that guy. What I’m saying is that they need to have some cap space available just in case. Commiting a ton of cap space long term on another elite winger this summer would be foolish in my opinion and we already have a ton of wingers anyway, maybe not elite ones like Semin or Parise but decent ones and MJ90, Laich, Eakin, Galiev, can also play wing. Besides, I don’t think the Caps will re-sign Semin for anywhere near what he’s making right now but if they can re-sign him for a resonable deal then you don’t need to replace him. If they don’t, they I rather use the cap space to re-sign Carlson, Wideman, and I’m not an expert on ELC deals but Kutznesov cap hit won’t be low so I rather use the remaining cap space on those guys and see what happens with the new CBA before investing more money and cap space on wingers. I’m hoping the Caps use most their cap space from now on to re-sign centers and top 4D and keep wingers, #5,6,7D and goalies on resonable short-term deals.
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by CapsFan2020 on Jan 16, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
As of the current CBA, 900,000 is the max an ELC can be. Now there are the bonuses which would bring the cap value up. the current CBA has a cushion for the bonuses as mentioned above. I dont think this team would have enough offense to compete if we cant get another goal scorer. Ovechkin isnt what he used to be, and Backstrom is still a ?, and even when he is on I think you need another elite goal scorer. Now I would perfer that scorer to be a center, but I dont see that happening
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I don’t think you need another scoring winger. A bonafide goal scorer, let’s say one of the top 30 goal scorers in the NHL, is a 30-goal scorer. This team has, realistically, 1-3 of those. Extend that to the top-45 (top line scorer to above average second scorer) and you’re at 25 goals.
A top line scorer (top 90 in NHL), only 21 goals. There are five Capitals on pace for break 21, and four are under contract for next season. Johansson may get close next year, and I’ll be absolutely shocked if Kuznetsov doesn’t go 20+ on his ELC. Brooks Laich will likely get close as well (he’s probably a fantasy sleeper—despite the third-closest average 5v5 shot distance on the team, he’s only shooting 2%, which is worse than Karl Alzner).
In other words, I don’t think scoring is the problem. I don’t think it’s as simple as pointing to a “goal scorer” or a “playmaker” here. What the Caps need, I think, is a guy who’ll complement the skillsets in the top six well, who’ll do what his linemates will not, thus improving possession.
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by red army line on Jan 16, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
Obviously a little late to the party here, but regarding Mike Green, is it even worthwhile to try to resign him at this point? You figure he’s done for the year since you have to add at least 2 extra weeks to whatever the stated green-recovery time is, and hes played in right around a third of the games over the past two years combined. Im having a tough time thinking about how vital he is to the capitals offense when the team has to play more games without him than with him. Not an indictment of his play, and I hope he gets better, but it doesn’t seem to be worth any type of risk at this point.
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