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More love for Orlov. Congrats, kid, on your first NHL goal. Keep those smiles coming.

That'll make your weagle wink!
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by boutros23 on Jan 15, 2012 7:40 PM EST reply actions  

He’s been a beast. Can we cut back on the incoming rubber on Vokes, however?

by ShootTheBullets on Jan 15, 2012 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I couldn’t see how the puck made it into the net on his goal.
Semin’s goal was pretty fucking sweet though.

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by caps&skins on Jan 15, 2012 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Caps played rope-a-dope hockey the entire third period.

I like Vokoun even though he plays a mile outside the crease.

by cameronMD on Jan 15, 2012 7:40 PM EST reply actions  

Fuck Jeff Skinner. Next we meet, Hendricks needs to WWE his ass too.

"He leaves every ounce of energy that he has on the ice and works very hard at it, and he wants to be the best and he wants to win, If you don’t follow that, you’ve got something wrong with you."

by nogoodtrying on Jan 15, 2012 7:41 PM EST reply actions  

punk-ass kid needs to learn some respect for elder statesmen.

-someone Jeff Skinner’s age.

by j762 on Jan 15, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Can you elaborate on why, for those of us who had to miss the game?

"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."

by Whiter Mage on Jan 15, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

he was very liberally swinging his stick at people at the every end and tried to start shit after the buzzer

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by RedBirdie on Jan 15, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks. That’s obnoxious. Kenny Wu needs to cut that shit out.

"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."

by Whiter Mage on Jan 15, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Farkis could have been a close relative of the Staals. Reminds me of the Semin vs Marc Staal fight that reminded me of the fight between Ralphie and Farkis in “A Christmas Story”. After the Semin fight, many people commented on the resemblances of Marc Staal to Farkis and Sasha to Ralphie.

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by CapsFan75 on Jan 15, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

semin laid there like a slug, it was his only defense.

by matty_c on Jan 16, 2012 12:50 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Not to mention the slew foot on Wideman into the boards.

by Twenty Seven Ninety on Jan 15, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

inexcusable officiating on the Laich goal/non-goal. Get your stories straight boys, the conflicting report are damning

by Beakers Lab on Jan 15, 2012 7:43 PM EST reply actions  

And now

Stephen Whyno
Officials declined to speak to me about disallowed goal. #Caps

NHL has to hold these guys accountable at some point. At least it didn’t cost us the game.

by icehammer97 on Jan 15, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

The silence is damning

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by caps&skins on Jan 15, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

They’re busy with their post-game Bud Lights.

Dingos are involved. Best not to ask.

by alex_k on Jan 15, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s also normal, so…?

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by Bald Pollack on Jan 15, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

hey no ruining our bitching with things like facts. =)

by Beakers Lab on Jan 15, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

so I guess we all complain for naught and they go on to the next game.

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by caps&skins on Jan 15, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

during the game, Alan May said that he was told by the zebras that it was incidental contact.

I didn’t think incidental contact was reviewable. It sure isn’t the other way.

by j762 on Jan 15, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

there were 3 or 4 explanations given as to what the call was and what happened

by Beakers Lab on Jan 15, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

well that’s some bullshit right there

by j762 on Jan 15, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe one of the many resident experts can explain to me whether or not there is a process for calling out refs and their calls with the league. Every sport has a means to do so, what does the NHL do for shit like tonight? What’s the process here?

"He leaves every ounce of energy that he has on the ice and works very hard at it, and he wants to be the best and he wants to win, If you don’t follow that, you’ve got something wrong with you."

by nogoodtrying on Jan 15, 2012 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think there’s any public way of doing it. But earlier in the season, someone on the Caps broadcasting crew (forget if it was Laughlin or May) said that they should be writing to the league about the reputation calls Semin was getting. This makes me think that a team can privately make an inquiry, but nothing’s ever going to be told to the fans.

by Flash in the Pan on Jan 15, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

It should be publicized and at the very least the media should be going after it. My dad is a casual hockey viewer and was flipping back and forth between the game and the GB-NY game. He eventually just stopped watching the Caps game altogether because of the refs. Said it’s why he isn’t as into NHL hockey as he is football and baseball; not to say those games are perfect, but I can kinda see his point. It’s gotten to be nearly unwatchable for me, unless it’s a couple of teams playing that I just don’t give a shit about. I wonder how many more people are like my dad out there.

"He leaves every ounce of energy that he has on the ice and works very hard at it, and he wants to be the best and he wants to win, If you don’t follow that, you’ve got something wrong with you."

by nogoodtrying on Jan 15, 2012 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh, there’s no public accountability for refs in any sport. The leagues hate to criticize their own unless they’ve actually done something illegal.

by Flash in the Pan on Jan 15, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

There kinda is in the NFL. In fact, referees are graded after every game in the regular season. If graded too low, refs can be disqualified from calling playoff games and in some cases even face a formal inquiry by the Commissioner. Ron Blum and Gerry Austin are two more famous examples of refs that were eventually weeded out of the league for poor grades. This is what I’m hoping to find out actually does happen in the NHL.

"He leaves every ounce of energy that he has on the ice and works very hard at it, and he wants to be the best and he wants to win, If you don’t follow that, you’ve got something wrong with you."

by nogoodtrying on Jan 15, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

every league reviews, to varying degrees, their officials to determine who gets post-season assignments. Auger did not get a post-season assignment last year, iirc.

A huge problem for the NHL is the officiating pool is very small. There simply aren’t enough refs, and there aren’t enough new ones coming up the ranks to get rid of the bad ones.

Publicly, all leagues will support their officials. MLB stood behind Jim Joyce. It was Joyce who made the decision to publicly admit he was wrong and apologize.

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by RedBirdie on Jan 15, 2012 8:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Colin Campbell’s emails that came out in that litigation last year demonstrated that there is a vibrant and active correspondence between the NHL offices and GMs complaining about missed calls. Those emails also demonstrate that lobbying can make a difference, at least for future calls. If a GM isn’t lobbying, he isn’t doing his job.

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by Gould Old Days on Jan 15, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

When was the last time one of these goalie interference plays went our way?

by Flash in the Pan on Jan 15, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec’d for the temper tantrum by Hockey-Beiber..

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jan 15, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Always laugh at this, but that was a quick whistle, not an interference.

"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."

by Whiter Mage on Jan 15, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Alan May may have said that, and Walton definitely did – the only part of the game I missed.

"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."

by Whiter Mage on Jan 15, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

They gave Carlson a roughing at the end
6 3 20:00 74 J.CARLSON 2 Roughing

by discuit on Jan 15, 2012 7:45 PM EST reply actions  

and
3 3 20:00 28 J.FAULK 2 Roughing

by discuit on Jan 15, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

No Skinner slashing or roughing?
Isn’t there a pentaly for whining?

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by caps&skins on Jan 15, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

why do you think crosby’s racked up so few PIMs over his career?

by j762 on Jan 15, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, you’re allowed to complain to the refs if you’ve got a C or an A, but I’m pretty sure Skinner doesn’t. After a certain amount of whining it can become unsportsmanlike conduct.

by Flash in the Pan on Jan 15, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I love the frank answer to my nonsensical post. :)

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by caps&skins on Jan 15, 2012 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

are you fucking kidding me? these officials were a joke all night

by Beakers Lab on Jan 15, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

What an ass move.

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by caps&skins on Jan 15, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Hard to tell who was on the back end of B2B games tonight. 82 attempts at net for Carolina, vs. 38 for the Caps. And yet…

Cross check and all call.

by bigonetimer on Jan 15, 2012 7:48 PM EST reply actions  

end of the night a win is a win and we are in 1st in the SE and 3rd in the Eastern

by Beakers Lab on Jan 15, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Boy would it suck to be a Panthers’ fan and see that there.

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by caps&skins on Jan 15, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Why would it suck? The Panthers right now are in a playoff spot despite having a losing record.

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jan 15, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Made me kiss my computer screen.

That'll make your weagle wink!
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by boutros23 on Jan 15, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

To note:

Tied with Cats in points and games – but three more wins.
Tied with Pens in points, but one game in hand and more wins.
One point better than Leafs and one game in hand.
Five points better than Jets and one game in hand.
Two points behind Devils and one game in hand.
Six points behind Senators and three games in hand.

Cool!!!

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by STLSpidey on Jan 15, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

But would you believe the Caps actually have the Sens beat in the ROW department. The Sens have earned a lot of points by winning shootouts, along with the Bettman points. The Sens have a higher ROW than the Devils.

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by CapsFan75 on Jan 15, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

that surprised me. I thought the Caps would be better in that department

by j762 on Jan 15, 2012 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

This has been sitting here for over and hour and it’s not green yet? Slackers.

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Jan 15, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

excuses excuses

I’m still getting used to this

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by caps&skins on Jan 15, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s better now. ;)

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Jan 15, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey I rec’ed it immediately. It’s so pretty.

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by capsyoungguns on Jan 15, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

The team in there that should be concerned is New Jersey. Eight of their 25 wins have come via Bettman’s Folly. Want to depend on that down the stretch?

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by ThePeerless on Jan 15, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

they have started win in regulation and OT the past couple of weeks. I think well into December, they had a mere 13 “legitimate” wins.

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by RedBirdie on Jan 15, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

And Ottawa, too, even they’re not quite as bad as NJ in the Bettman’s folly department but have certainly benefited from it.

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by CapsFan75 on Jan 15, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Stan Galiev
Congrats to my good friend Dmitriy Orlov on his first and GWG in the show. #Caps #finallyShootThePuck

That'll make your weagle wink!
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by boutros23 on Jan 15, 2012 7:51 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Vokes looks less than enthusiastic, though. :P

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by boutros23 on Jan 15, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he’s smiling knowingly.

by Flash in the Pan on Jan 15, 2012 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

at least sasha’s not sitting on him

by j762 on Jan 15, 2012 8:04 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Sasha only sits on rookie goalies.

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by CapsFan75 on Jan 15, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually I’ve seen pics of Sasha sitting on Alzner, Hendricks, Brent Johnson, and Ovi, besides Neuvy. He is a different kind of guy.

by vtcapsfan99 on Jan 16, 2012 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

He skated over to congratulate him and fell right into him. That is Semin trying to laugh off the fact he can’t skate.

by sailchef1 on Jan 16, 2012 7:58 AM EST up reply actions  

That was hilarious. I noticed that happening at the end of the game. Happy Sasha loves his goalie! :D

by Aliceanna on Jan 15, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

It was especially entertaining after the rampant douchebaggery following the final whistle

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by Gould Old Days on Jan 15, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m sorry I couldn’t find you! Such a huge crowd. :-(

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by WordsOnIce on Jan 15, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

It was a madhouse! It would have been nice to see you, but it was a pretty awesome day, nonetheless! ;)

How did the boy like the game?

by Aliceanna on Jan 15, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

He had a blast, though he found the Cane’s attack at the end after the clock was empty to be bad sportsmanship.

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by WordsOnIce on Jan 15, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

A whole lot of what the Canes did was bad sportsmanship. Thankfully, the Caps weren’t standing for it. Such as Hendy’s bodyslam. What did he think of that? ;)

by Aliceanna on Jan 15, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

He was kind of startled by the hits. He asked me if the glass ever broke, and I said, “Oh yeah.”

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by WordsOnIce on Jan 15, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Bez práce nejsou koláče.

heard muttered by Vokoun

No, I don't think I'll ever get over Macho Grande

by Icebat on Jan 15, 2012 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s going to make Puck Daddy’s greatest NHL hugs.

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by Quaternions on Jan 16, 2012 2:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Stay calm

Winning because your goalie makes 43 saves is not a good habit.
On another note, the one day rest didn’t help the Bolts, 3-6 losers to the Pens.
What’s Guy’s excuse today? Jet lag?

by ShootTheBullets on Jan 15, 2012 7:54 PM EST reply actions  

I know. I’ll take it though. I’ll take it.

and F#**! Boucher.

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by caps&skins on Jan 15, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

for sure, but I think Neuvy should get the nod in Montreal

by j762 on Jan 15, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Better get out the WD40 for Neuvy.

by ShootTheBullets on Jan 15, 2012 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

IIRC, he didn’t do too badly in his relief appearance, right?

by j762 on Jan 15, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Might rather give him the Isles and let Vokoun have les Habs.

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Jan 15, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree… the Islanders are the better choice, and if there’s a goalie fight, Vokoun is a better match up for Price.

And there will be blood in Montreal, Rene Bourque will be skating for them…

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jan 15, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I swear I saw on twitter that he threw another elbow?

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by RedBirdie on Jan 15, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

There’s video at PHT. Looks borderline, although I saw more than one remark that it could be suspendable.

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Jan 15, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/15/rene-bourque-delivers-another-questionable-check/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Jan 15, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Feels good having a number one goaltender again. The other Tomáš on the other hand is AHL bound very soon. Good for him to see some NHL action but his not being an NHL defenseman, showed numeral times today.

by Sjomin on Jan 15, 2012 7:58 PM EST reply actions  

why was he called up in the first place?

by j762 on Jan 15, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Schultz and Erskine are busy breaking up 2 on 1’s in the press box.

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by KillerTestudo on Jan 15, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

IMO, because he’s faster than Schultz and Erskine, so they thought he might be better suited to the man-defense than they were. He’s obviously not ready yet though.

by Flash in the Pan on Jan 15, 2012 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

NHL has another headline “(Orov of the Game”) where the person mentioned can’t be seen in the photo.

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by caps&skins on Jan 15, 2012 8:07 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t even get that.

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by STLSpidey on Jan 15, 2012 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s just a caps&skins mistype: the caption reads Orlov of the Game (For the LOVE of the game).

"He leaves every ounce of energy that he has on the ice and works very hard at it, and he wants to be the best and he wants to win, If you don’t follow that, you’ve got something wrong with you."

by nogoodtrying on Jan 15, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Now that I get.

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by STLSpidey on Jan 15, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

oh. sorry again :P

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by caps&skins on Jan 15, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t understand my post? Sorry.
Last game Brouwer wasn’t seen in the pic and now Orlov is absent.

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by caps&skins on Jan 15, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

For Neil and the rest of the #fancystats crowd – I get it.

HOWEVER — These are the types of games that you steal in the playoffs. This is the type of game that the Habs took from us way back when. We need to shoot more and score more, but I’d also like to win more of these.

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by STLSpidey on Jan 15, 2012 8:13 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Totally though the exact same thing tonight. Earlier in the season, this is exactly the type of game that would have ended 5-2 Canes. Vokoun really pulled us out of this and that’s a major element in what wins playoffs games.

"He leaves every ounce of energy that he has on the ice and works very hard at it, and he wants to be the best and he wants to win, If you don’t follow that, you’ve got something wrong with you."

by nogoodtrying on Jan 15, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s also a win against the 6th worst team in the league. The fact that such a bad team was able to totally control the flow of play against is a little disconcerting.

by Flash in the Pan on Jan 15, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll disconcert later. I’m good today.

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by STLSpidey on Jan 15, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

But they beat the best in the league last night. They were on a high all night.

by KSR17 on Jan 15, 2012 8:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure were. They were plenty peeved to be on the losing end too. Frustration seemed to come to a head as the buzzer sounded and the shoving commenced.
Caps win

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by caps&skins on Jan 15, 2012 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

These are the type of games you need to win in the playoffs against playoff teams. Having to steal these games against lottery teams playing the back end of a back to back is a little more troubling.

Release the Mackan!

by Killer_Carlson on Jan 16, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

From Tim Leone, Orlov:
"That just doubles the fun, doubles the positive emotions [that it was a game-winner]," Orlov said.

"I was yelling and filled with elation, so I can’t remember what was said to me."

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by boutros23 on Jan 15, 2012 8:18 PM EST reply actions  

I love Russian translation…“I was filled with elation?” I don’t know if you’ll ever hear a native English speaking person use that word out loud, “elation.” It’s the kind of word that shows up more in print.

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by ThePeerless on Jan 15, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Worth going back to watch the whole game, or just the goals? Migraine had me laid up for the entire second and all but the last five of the third.

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by RedBirdie on Jan 15, 2012 8:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Worth it to watch Laich’s goal, for sure. ;)

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by nogoodtrying on Jan 15, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t tease me! Mr. B told me that was a shitshow by the refs.

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by RedBirdie on Jan 15, 2012 8:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

You have to see Hendy’s bodyslam. You can skip the first, but should watch the 2nd, for the goals, and then the 3rd, for the hitting, the chippiness, and Dima. :)

I hope your migraine is better! :)

by Aliceanna on Jan 15, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Much better now. Advil and a nap in a dark, quiet place does wonders. Just peeved I had to miss the game

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by RedBirdie on Jan 15, 2012 9:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Hey, i gave him two points for the takedown…

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by ThePeerless on Jan 15, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I just got home and came here to understand why that goal was called off. Hunter was told that it was disallowed because of interference but the near ref called the goal good. I thought goalie interference calls were non-reviewable but I wonder if there’s a clause for when the two refs disagree they are allowed to have Toronto decide.

All in all it felt as though the refs were calling the game in favor of the Canes—dubious icing calls, the tripping call, the uncalled boarding that upset Wideman, etc. It’s bad when so many dubious calls, goal reversals, and non calls are shown on the big screen clearly show the refs are in error.

The refs really messed with the momentum in that game, not that I’m particularly pleased with how slowly the guys started. I’m kinda cranky despite the win.

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by capsyoungguns on Jan 15, 2012 8:44 PM EST reply actions  

You have reason to be cranky. Caps haven’t been winning with gusto and seem lucky to get the W.
The disallowed goal isn’t shown in the NHL recap, so if anyone can post it I’d be grateful.

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by caps&skins on Jan 15, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, they should have won that game by two. That was a terrible decision, taking away that goal. I’m still trying to figure out the call—normally a goalie interference isn’t reviewable. But that huddle made me think that the refs were in disagreement. We saw it shown on the big screen several times—it definitely looked like it should have been a good goal the way the near ref originally called it. Laich made a strong effort to avoid Ward. I know that type of situation can get decided both ways, but it’s pretty unusual to have a huddle and then a Toronto review that overturns the near ref.

And I just figured out that it was slew foot on Wideman. All I could see at the game was that he went into the boards, stayed down, and then was pissed when he finally got up. No call. Refs were bad today. That also affects the players. It shouldn’t, but it does.

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On his milestone: "It's going to be like unwrapping a birthday present. Then the day after you're kind of like [sighs]....Now you just have to keep going."

by capsyoungguns on Jan 15, 2012 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

It isn’t according the what seems to have happened, the close ref called it a goal and the other 3 (ref and two linesmen) all ruled that it shouldn’t count because of contact. My problem with the call is that the away refs can overrule close ref (worst case was SO between Detroit and Dallas a year or two ago). In this case it was 3 to 1 so that isn’t as bad, at least that is how it sounded on the Washington Post’s site, I just don’t like how the eyes who are far away and at a bad angle can overrule the one close to the play. If he asks for help that is one thing but other then that you are just asking from trouble.

by icehammer97 on Jan 16, 2012 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I think that’s why I was so cranky about the whole thing. Close ref calls the goal good but then other three call for a huddle, then they are talking to Toronto (though in the aftermath the refs said Toronto called them but didn’t review it), and withdraw the goal but failed to inform the arena the ruling. The whole thing was suspicious and tinfoil-worthy—not in a conspiracy way but rather in a way that the refs that particular night were not objective. There were too many other small instances where they influenced the game, such as the icings that the Caps won but were called against them. That the Caps were so badly outshot and flatlined in periods such as right after the goal was disallowed didn’t help my mood either. On the other hand nice to see Vokoun in a groove.

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On his milestone: "It's going to be like unwrapping a birthday present. Then the day after you're kind of like [sighs]....Now you just have to keep going."

by capsyoungguns on Jan 16, 2012 8:54 AM EST up reply actions  

My philosophy for NHL refs is “never attribute to bias what can adequately be explained by incompetence.”

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by Gould Old Days on Jan 16, 2012 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I agree with you, and I am normally a rational person. Something about the way that game was handled last night set my teeth on edge though.

I’ve seen this once or twice in my son’s games. A ref for whatever reason doesn’t like how one team or some of the individuals on that team are playing and they are unduly strict with that team only. That’s how the Caps’ game seemed to me last night. For whatever reason the game was called harshly against the Caps. Small things that affect how the players react as well as the flow and momentum of the overall game. But yes refs are human too, even down to their reactions to in game situations.

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by capsyoungguns on Jan 16, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Luckily a win isn’t determined by the gusto with which it was earned. We’re back on the top of the SE division and third overall. It’s ok to smile for a night.

"He leaves every ounce of energy that he has on the ice and works very hard at it, and he wants to be the best and he wants to win, If you don’t follow that, you’ve got something wrong with you."

by nogoodtrying on Jan 15, 2012 8:55 PM EST reply actions  

:)

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by caps&skins on Jan 15, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s the spirit!

(FYI—was directed to you, reply Fail on my part).

"He leaves every ounce of energy that he has on the ice and works very hard at it, and he wants to be the best and he wants to win, If you don’t follow that, you’ve got something wrong with you."

by nogoodtrying on Jan 15, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

YAY! :D

We don’t care that the Caps were outshot, or that the Canes had a little more jump to their step, or that the refs sucked. My sister and I had fabulous time and the Caps won to take back the lead in the SE!

The little sister’s favorite things about her first live Caps game: Dima’s first goal. Hendy’s bodyslam. Sasha scoring. She was infuriated by the refs, especially by them stealing Brooksie’s rightful goal. She loved unleashing the fury. She vibrating with joy and excitement throughout the whole game, and, in general, declared it AWESOME!

So, I’ll take that response over #fancystats, any day. ;)

by Aliceanna on Jan 15, 2012 9:11 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Fantastic

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by caps&skins on Jan 15, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s wonderful about your experience and I agree about Orlov’s first goal. Boys—go to the net.

I was trash talking the Bruins a bit, saying that it was good the Canes beat them because they needed to be taken down a peg or two. But the Caps now needed to beat the Canes. Then I noticed the guy’s hat sitting next to me—Bruins. Pretty amusing.

Knuble: "I am what I am. I play well with good players."

On his milestone: "It's going to be like unwrapping a birthday present. Then the day after you're kind of like [sighs]....Now you just have to keep going."

by capsyoungguns on Jan 15, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m so glad she had fun! My guest also had a wonderful first ever hockey game experience. :-)

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by WordsOnIce on Jan 15, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Thigs I want to see replays of but can’t so far:
Ovi’s hit
Disallowed goal
Judo flip by Hendy

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by caps&skins on Jan 15, 2012 9:21 PM EST reply actions  

Can we put in a request with Dimagus to put these in a fanshot later?

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by skyywise on Jan 15, 2012 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Whyno tweeted that he’d like the disallowed goal as well. I’m curious to hear what he says.

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by caps&skins on Jan 15, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

If you search @WashCapsRock on twitter, she posted YouTube’s of the bodyslam and the hit.

by Aliceanna on Jan 15, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you

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by caps&skins on Jan 15, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Minus One
Ovi hit is on Caps site.
Should I Tebow now?
(nope, it already jumped the shark)

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by caps&skins on Jan 15, 2012 9:24 PM EST reply actions  

You should only Tebow if you’re willing to admit to Guerin that the ref paid you to do it. (Mites on Ice joke…)

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jan 15, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Observations from Section 421

My wife went with me to the game tonight and she said she couldn’t beat that one hour nap that was the first period….

1) Ok, the first period was a snoozefest. That said, the Caps should have gone at the ‘Canes hard. They played last night against Boston and should have been somewhat tired. The Caps should have jumped right on them at that point. No, the Canes are not a good team, but that doesn’t matter.

2) Bull[Gretzky] call on the Laich wave-off. I don’t see where anyone messed with Ward, or stopped him from making a play. The NHL’s Situation Room blog (http://www.nhl.com/ice/blog.htm?id=213) is quiet about the situation as well.

3) Sweet shot by Semin to score the first goal. I bet Ward hangs pictures of Sasha up as Halloween decorations.

4) Nice to know Hendricks cares… loved the bodyslam.

5) Awesome to see Orlov get that first goal. Now that the ice has been broken, let’s see some more.

6) Last game Kundratek looked ok for a rookie, but tonight he looked like an AHL player. He got beat really bad on several occasions. Admittedly, he’s still young, but I think Schultz or Erskine could have handled those plays better.

7) Eakin is also still not 100% NHL ready. He made some nice moves that would work at the AHL level…. they don’t work at this level.

8) The Caps are in first place… where they belong.

Next up the schedule continues with the parade of well-managed, well organized teams: Islanders, Canadiens and the Canes again… the points are there for the taking…

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jan 15, 2012 9:47 PM EST reply actions  

Unfortunately for the NHL Situation Room Whyno is on the trail of Brooksie’s disallowed goal. Seems as though the players were just as baffled by how the refs handled it.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/capitals-watch/2012/jan/15/why-was-brooks-laichs-goal-disallowed/

Knuble: "I am what I am. I play well with good players."

On his milestone: "It's going to be like unwrapping a birthday present. Then the day after you're kind of like [sighs]....Now you just have to keep going."

by capsyoungguns on Jan 15, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

did hunter say what the explanation given to him was?

I found it odd that they didn’t even try to broadcast the decision. normally, the ref skates out of the officials’ crease and goes on the PA to announce the decision. Here, he just skated towards the benches and made the no-goal call

by j762 on Jan 15, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

He said he was told by the refs that it goalie interference but that Laich barely grazed Ward, which certainly matches what I saw on the replays shown at the game.

Knuble: "I am what I am. I play well with good players."

On his milestone: "It's going to be like unwrapping a birthday present. Then the day after you're kind of like [sighs]....Now you just have to keep going."

by capsyoungguns on Jan 15, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

def. just grazed. laich in no way interfered with Ward’s ability to make that save. Ward could hypothetically have dove to his left to keep the puck out.

by j762 on Jan 15, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. It’s bad when even the players don’t understand the refs actions to disallow that goal.

Knuble: "I am what I am. I play well with good players."

On his milestone: "It's going to be like unwrapping a birthday present. Then the day after you're kind of like [sighs]....Now you just have to keep going."

by capsyoungguns on Jan 15, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m wrong. Hunter said the refs told him it was incidental contact.

Knuble: "I am what I am. I play well with good players."

On his milestone: "It's going to be like unwrapping a birthday present. Then the day after you're kind of like [sighs]....Now you just have to keep going."

by capsyoungguns on Jan 15, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve been saying Eakin needs more chocolate dipping. Why do they keep calling up these AHL folks?

by j762 on Jan 15, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Because we have hurt NHL folks.

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by Whiter Mage on Jan 15, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

The Situation Room blog only tells things the Toronto reviews and by rule this couldn’t have been reviewed by them so nothing will be there. I really hate that the refs from outside the zone can overrule the one 5 feet away. Also would really like these kind of plays to be reviewable, if the NFL can have a ref look at a little TV and see if a guys toe touches the line giving the ref a few replays in the penalty box so he can make a decision shouldn’t be to hard, that is of course if they want the actual ref on the ice to make the decision and not the situation room, would also work for the stupid intent to blow the whistle rule because now the ref can see if the puck was in when he intended to blow it. There are few enough goals in the NHL no reason why some potential goals can’t be reviewed and gotten right.

by icehammer97 on Jan 16, 2012 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Orlov’s first goal and a GWG! Woooo!

The game for long stretches was a snoozer, but a win and 2 points.

by sk84fun_dc on Jan 15, 2012 10:50 PM EST reply actions  

were you there to see it in person?

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by RedBirdie on Jan 15, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey – how’s the headache? Feeling better overall?

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by STLSpidey on Jan 15, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

headache better. this was a “minor” one in the scheme of things. as for overall….it’ll all work out for the best in the end. Just trying to figure out what that might be :)

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by RedBirdie on Jan 15, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

You’ll get there. Look at my tag line.

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by STLSpidey on Jan 15, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Too bad about the headache. I presume you had probably sold your tickets for today.

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by CapsFan75 on Jan 15, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m probably reiterating stuff everyone else said on the game

1) Period 1 — Caps were badly outshot. Lucky to be still tied 0-0.
2) The Caps looked much better during 2nd period, overall. It looked like they got on via the Laich goal but it was waved off. No explanation given to the crowd, which was unusual. Normally, waved off goals are explained to the crowd.
3) Sasha broke the ice and scored — for real. Nice goal!
4) Carolina scores near the end of the Power Play and the end of the period, the types of goals that can be disheartening if they were go ahead goals. I was still annoyed.
5) At least the Caps didn’t get disheartened and Dima scored his first goal to put the Caps ahead. Seemed that several Caps jumped from the bench to celebrate, including Semin. (Gotta look out for the kid from your country, Sasha.)
6) Seemed that between penalties and numerous icing calls, the rest of the game was a white knuckles affair. (That’s been the case a lot lately.)
7) It was Kids Day at the game, with a mascot game (even though I didn’t watch the mascot game since I usually take a walk around the concourse during intermissions.) They gave all fans a sticker book after the game. Granted, that’s more for the kids but still. I hear they had a kids hockey game before the Caps game.

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by CapsFan75 on Jan 15, 2012 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

1) Period 1 — Caps were badly outshot. Lucky to be still tied 0-0.

Not luck. Vokoun was on, and stopping everything. Pure skill and talent.

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jan 16, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Lucky that our goalie was hot, we could say.

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by CapsFan75 on Jan 16, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Orlov is certainly flying high — flying like an Eagle. He’s having only positive emotions — to use his words.

An interesting note. In today’s free program they give out before the game, the player featured was Orlov. In Friday’s free program, they featured Brouwer and that night he got the hat trick. Hey, we’re on a streak here, of 2 games. (Previous programs had featured Oisk, who was likely scratched and Semin, who was out with an injury.)

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by CapsFan75 on Jan 15, 2012 11:19 PM EST reply actions  

The fight at the end

Did anyone see who that Carolina player punched? 44 came into the crowd of celebrating Caps and threw down AFTER the end of the third period. I was at the wrong end of the arena to see it clearly.

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by WordsOnIce on Jan 15, 2012 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t know who 44 decked, but I saw on NHL Tonight that Brooks and Skinner were going at it after the final buzzer.

by Aliceanna on Jan 15, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Skinner is a jerk.

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by WordsOnIce on Jan 15, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

next thing you know he’ll be telling the refs how he watches 80 games a year and that’s a penalty shot every time.

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by RedBirdie on Jan 15, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

By the way

GoalieMama’s seats are AMAZING.

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by WordsOnIce on Jan 16, 2012 12:00 AM EST reply actions  

It looked like someone was seriously hurt by the puck Carlson sent over the glass and got a delay of game penalty on during the first period. The puck seemed to stay in the air forever so I don’t know how they didn’t see it, but it hit a man in the section next to us. It was a big scene, the ushers came down to help but it seriously took over 5 minutes to get the paramedics there. It took so long that the Caps doctor that sits right behind the bench went over there finally to help it. It was really odd that it took so long, because this was section 100. The poor guy looked completely out of it, they had to carry him down the row into the aisle which required two burly men and then strap him into this special chair stretcher thing and carry him up the stairs. He looked unconscious. The penalty was at 5:49 of the first and they were just carrying the guy up the stairs when the first intermission started. I hope this poor guy is ok, he was there with a family, including some kids.

by vtcapsfan99 on Jan 16, 2012 1:08 AM EST reply actions  

A fan fell down some stairs and was knocked unconscious last year at a Caps game in the upper deck. It took the paramedics about 7 minutes to even arrive. I actually wrote to Ted afterward, because I was so upset at the length in time it took.

by wickedwitch on Jan 16, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

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