Rink Roundtable: At the Halfway Point
Wednesday night the Caps took the ice for their 41st game of the season, a 1-0 win over the Pittsburgh Penguins that marked the halfway point of the season (and the 19th game of Dale Hunter’s tenure as bench boss). That win pushed the Caps back into playoff position with exactly half a season remaining in the 2011-12 campaign – and just about three months remaining until the playoffs.
With 41 games left on the slate and plenty of questions remaining about this team and their potential, we weigh in on how the season has gone so far… and what could lie ahead.
Question 1: Let’s start with the big one - is this Capitals team headed to the post-season, and, if so, can they do any damage once they get there?
Kareem: Yes, they are going to make the playoffs. They may even win the division if they get healthy enough. And there is always the possibility that they get hot at the right time and make a deep run, like Tampa did last year. But they are not a Stanley Cup contender. Even with a healthy Backstrom, they’re missing play-makers up front, evidenced by the failures of the second line to consistently produce. The defense is also a mess. The team’s push to have an overabundance of "puck-moving defensemen" hasn’t worked out as planned. The injury to Mike Green has really hurt the blue-line. Plus, the season-to-season regression of Jeff Schultz, Roman Hamrlik and, to a lesser extent, John Carlson, have really impaired the Caps ability to play well in their own zone and provide adequate defensive coverage. Long story short, the team’s personnel is a mess. It’s missing key players (a 2C and a top-pairing defenseman) and folks are not meeting expectations. And that’s why they’re underachieving.
J.P.: If they’re missing two incredibly important key pieces - a second-line center and a top-pairing defenseman (whether you’re talking about Mike Green or in further addition to him) - are they really underachieving that massively? If the personnel is a mess, perhaps they’re performing about as well as should reasonably be expected. Isn’t it one or the other - either they’ve got the right personnel to succeed and aren’t or they’ve got the wrong personnel and it’s easy to see why they aren’t having success?
KE: It’s not an either-or scenario: the Caps don’t have ideal personnel, and compounding that problem is the fact the the ones on the roster are underachieving. Even before Nicklas Backstrom went down, the team was playing very average hockey. The return of a healthy Mike Green won’t singlehandedly turn this team into a bona-fide contender. The Caps are missing key ingredients to a Stanley Cup contender, pieces that were missing last year and remain missing this year. Making matters worse are the 6-8 skaters (depending on who you ask) who have not brought their "A" games this season.
JP: To answer the question, I think it’s going to be awfully close on the playoffs. On the one hand, Dale Hunter’s system seems to be one that, when played properly, gives the Caps a chance to win every game. And yet it’s unproductive enough, offensively, that they’ve also got a chance to lose every game. When you’re playing for 2-1 wins every night, you’re essentially flipping coins and hoping they come up heads. Maybe they do more than half the time... and maybe they don’t. But they haven’t had many convincing enough performances under the new regime for me to think that they’ve got much more than a 50/50 shot on any given night, and that’s going to make it tough to make up a lot of ground in the standings. That said, their Division is weak (again) and if they can ever figure out how to play .500 hockey on the road, they should be OK. And once they get there... who knows?
Becca: I definitely see them making the playoffs, as well, but I disagree with Kareem in that I think the regression of Hamrlik is a bit overstated; he had a bad first quarter but has rebounded to become one of the team’s steadiest defensemen. I also don’t think we know what this team is capable of doing in the playoffs. We can project, sure, and agree that a 2C is probably needed before any significant movement in the postseason can happen, but when the defense is healthy (ha) and the team sticks to their system (ha ha) I could see them making some noise. The fact is that the hockey being played right now is nothing like what playoff hockey will look like, from any team, and we don’t know if another piece will be added, and we don’t know if, by then, the team will have adapted and adopted Hunter’s system the way it’s meant to be played.
Admittedly before the season I had them as at least Conference finalists and admittedly I might be less sure...but if we’ve learned nothing else from past playoff runs, even within this team’s own history, we know that all you have to do is get in and anything can happen.
Rob: They’ll make the playoffs but it won’t be with as much breathing room as we’ve gotten used to. From Montreal to Philadelphia to Tampa Bay we’ve seen that anything can happen in the playoffs, and the Caps certainly have a goalie that can get hot and change everything. But relying on a goalie getting hot is not an ideal position to be in so it’s tough to be too confident about the team’s chances right now.
Maybe the team will continue to adjust to Coach Hunter’s system and look like a more formidable team, but they’ve got a long way to go and haven’t looked like a team that can dominate puck possession for quite a while now. The defense could be better (and healthier) but this team has been a very successful team over the last few seasons with worse D than they have right now, regardless of personal under-performances. The forwards are the most troubling aspect, I believe. We’re not two years removed from a team that thought they could ice 3 scoring lines and now they’ve got to put all their eggs in one basket to create a single scoring line.
Question 2: How nervous are you that Dale Hunter might not be able to make the jump from OHL to NHL? What happens if he doesn’t find success?
RP: Hunter’s ability to make the jump has got to be a concern. The recent track record of coaches going from the CHL to the NHL isn’t exactly confidence inspiring so as much as Caps fans love Dale Hunter we have to be realistic about what he’s up against. He knows the game and has had a lot of experience and success as a player, but the game has changed a lot since the last time he was part of an NHL roster. He deserves the chance to implement his system and show what he can do, but it’s by no means a lock that he’s going to have the same kind of success in the NHL as he had in the OHL.
J.P.: I think that’s right. Simply put, this isn’t the OHL (where Hunter had some gangsta-stacked teams), just like this isn’t the AHL for Bruce Boudreau. Moreover, trying to implement a system based on what you want to do rather than what you have, resource-wise, can be dicey. It’s like putting the plane together while you’re starting down the runway (which is why coaching changes are made during the offseason whenever possible). There’s been a bit of square-peg-round-hole going on, so it’s going to be hard to judge the success of Hunter’s system... but it’s not going to be as hard to judge the short-term success of Hunter at motivating and focusing a team that’s been in need of both.
BH: I certainly have had my doubts about whether a junior hockey coach can jump into the NHL - and I’m not entirely sold yet, either. But I think what we have to remember is that as much as the team is adjusting to Hunter’s system, Hunter is still adjusting to the team. He’s been here for a little over a month now; by the end of January I think we’ll know a little more about how much he’s willing to mold the system that’s given him so much success to fit the team he’s got. And it may not take much - for all their struggles, he’s got this team playing harder than they were earlier this year (not that the bar was all that high, mind you) and when they execute his system to perfection they can be dominant.
Pepper: Hunter’s arrival also marks the second seismic shift in systems, or at least defensive emphasis, that this team has seen in less than a calendar year. A team whose foundational roster has been kept intact since Bruce Boudreau coached his first NHL game. I could see Ted facing a very difficult decision regarding George McPhee if and when Hunter can show that he can motivate and focus this bunch and get them to perform as best they can in a demanding system that can produce great things, but the consistent performance of which McPhee’s team isn’t capable. Exposing not lack of effort, but a poorly-constructed team that may have been overvalued by all the principals involved for several seasons.
RP: What happens if he doesn’t have success is troubling. You have a franchise legend, his number hanging in the rafters, who left a pretty cushy gig where he is essentially his own boss, to return for a chance at glory with his old team. I think it’s clear that Ted Leonsis will give Hunter a fair chance to show he can succeed; I doubt they’ve put any "win or you’re gone" requirements on Coach Hunter and I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t coach the team in 2012-13. If the team wins it’ll obviously not be a problem, but if things don’t turn around and this continues to be a team that has mediocre possession numbers and has to fight just to make the playoffs, things could get ugly.
JP: Yeah, I don’t even want to think about what happens if things go sideways. Next question.
Question 3: What has been the most pleasant surprise of the season so far? The most unpleasant surprise?
RP: The easy answer for pleasant surprise is Jason Chimera. Many of us laughed when he said he thought he could be a 20 goal scorer and now he is at 14 halfway into the season. He should easily set career records for goals and points, I’m just glad it’s not a contract season. Having said that, Dmitri Orlov is my vote for the most pleasant surprise. His reputation was that of an offensive playmaker that had little idea how to play in his own end. He’s certainly had his bumps in the road, but he’s been much better than I anticipated and looks like he belongs in the NHL. Ideally he’d be getting the minutes of a 6D/PP specialist but with so many moving parts on the D corps right now it’s hard to see how Coach Hunter will be using him when the dust settles. At the very least Orlov is providing some depth in terms of puck moving defensemen, which is going to be crucial considering Mike Green looks like he’s going to lose this season to a groin injury.
The goaltending would be the easy answer for biggest disappointment, as the tandem we thought would be one of the best in the league hasn’t come close to living up to that billing, despite Vokoun’s play of late. I still think the goaltending will regress back to (at least) the mean, so it’s a bit less worrisome. My biggest disappointment is painful for me to say: John Carlson. After a stellar rookie year fans expected to see the Carlson/Alzner duo to pick up where they left off and keep dominating top opposition. Well that hasn’t been the case this year, and since the coaching change Carlson hasn’t even been playing the tough competition. Carlson still has time to turn it around, but defensive play isn’t the kind of thing that can change in an instant (like goaltending) so with each passing game I have less confidence that Carlson will regain his old form during the 2011-12 season.
BH: Goaltending has been troubling, but I think the slip of Carlson’s game – and to some extent Alzner’s as well - has been more troubling. This kid was easily one of the bright spots last year and to see him come into camp looking off (and continuing to struggle even as he’s been reunited with Hunter) is really disappointing. The hope is that his, and Alzner’s, failings to this point can be chalked up to youth, inexperience and a bit of the dreaded sophomore slump. I have to believe that guys who have been through a number of systems over the course of their careers find it easier to switch gears than young players with at most 2-3 years of pro experience.
As far as pleasant surprises, hard not to agree on Orlov. We joked a bit when he was called up about how he would be the savior, and while I think he’s a long way away from making that kind of an impact on a team he’s certainly been a breath of fresh air. He’s made rookie mistakes, and predictably so, but he recovers well and something about his presence out there is well beyond his years - he’s so calm with the puck, he’s not afraid to hit guys bigger than he is or carry the puck into the offensive zone on his own. Hard not to get excited about Orlov when he’s evolved into a full-fledged NHL defenseman.
David: I agree with you both on Orlov, but I might even take it a step further and say all of the Hershey (or formerly mostly Hershey guys) who have spent significant time with the team this year. Not that Perreault, Eakin, or Beagle have exactly set the world on fire, but I thought they have, generally speaking, handled themselves better than expected.
As for disappointments, I think it’s the goaltending, and while I think Vokoun will get himself sorted out (and seems to be doing that pretty well, if you look at the season splits), I’m starting to wonder what’s going to happen with Michal Neuvirth down the road. Maybe it’s a slump, maybe it’s something that can be corrected, and maybe he is getting a little unlucky....or maybe he’s Steve Mason.
Pepper: I’m most positively surprised by Dennis Wideman’s offensive production. I suppose we knew he had it in his toolbox, but hadn’t had a chance to witness it in Caps colors. Obviously Hunter’s arrival could not have come at a better time for him. For a negative, I’d have to say generally the team’s performance on the road.
JP: I’m going to go with Hamrlik’s turn-around as the pleasant surprise. Granted, it’s only really a surprise given how low he’d set the bar over the first ~20 games, but since then he’s been everything the Caps could have asked for and then some.
As to the disappointment, how can I be the first one to mention Alexander Semin? He’s made $3.35 million so far this year (notice I didn’t say "earned") and is having his worst season, statistically, since the lockout. His goals, points and shots per game are all at post-rookie lows, and he’s failed repeatedly to carry a second line that’s desperately needed him to do so. Maybe he’s not disappointing some folks because they’ve come to expect this from him, but I know what he’s capable of and believe he can produce a lot more than he has.
Oh, and honorable mention to the captain, who would’ve gotten my vote if you’d asked me three weeks ago.
Question 4: If you were GMGM and you had one do-over from the off-season, what would it be?
RP: It won’t be much of a shock to anyone, but I think GMGM should have changed coaches in the off-season. I understand that GMGM wanted to put the onus on the players and try to give Bruce Boudreau better personnel, but especially now in hind-sight the team should have gone in a different direction over the summer. For one, it would have allowed them to conduct a more complete coaching search instead of being limited to the unemployed and Dale Hunter. Even if they knew that Dale Hunter was the next in line (which I suspect is the case), there would be no downside by having a broader pool to choose from. Even more importantly, making the change over the summer allows the new coaching staff to come together, evaluate personnel, and begin to implement their system. That would have avoided the growing pains that came after the transition, growing pains that a team on the outside looking in can hardly afford. It’s admirable that the organization demonstrates such loyalty to its people, but this may be a case where they were loyal to a fault.
DMG: I don’t think there’s much debate that the decision to keep Boudreau at the helm was the one you’d most like to have back. After last season and, more importantly, last year’s postseason, the idea that Boudreau could be "the guy" seems a lot more steeped in wishful thinking than analysis. Rather than holding out hope it would turn out to be the right guy for this team right now, it would have made more sense to bring in a new guy and give him a while to get settled in with the team, bring in his own assistants as needed, and give the front office a better idea of what they were working towards during the offseason. I sort of feel like that’s a cop-out answer, because a coaching change opens to door to a ton of other changes that may have benefited the team, but I think if you’re looking for one decision, that’s the one that really stands out.
Pepper: That all makes sense but, as Rob suggests, I suspect that McPhee was 99% set to go with Hunter if and when that judgment day arrived in-season (and knew that Dale would not accept any other offer in the meantime). If so, in his view there may have been no downside to giving Boudreau another spin of the wheel, and spend the summer focused on his own team-building efforts: flying out to meet Mike Green and Nick Backstrom; getting the guys to focus their summer workouts; instilling more positive attitudes.
That said, I don’t think there’s any better "do-over" from last summer than addressing coaching personnel. McPhee had a great off-season considering players who were available and what the perceived needs were. Could he have orchestrated a blockbuster trade to dig up and replant the core of the roster? We’ll never know for sure if there was a serious trading partner for acquiring components of a Caps roster that was, and still is, chock full o’ question marks, health concerns and otherwise.
BH: I’m probably one of the few who thinks Boudreau should not have been fired in the summer (or at least one of the few who agrees with why he wasn’t at the time). Sure, in hindsight it’s very easy to say that such a drastic change in systems would require a full training camp to get everyone on the same page before the games began to count...but there’s that proverbial 20/20 aspect to hindsight, and at the time I don’t think the team had given up on Boudreau the way they appeared to do a few months later.
And I really believe McPhee when he says he thought the problem against Tampa was that there were simply too many injuries on the blue line - considering the way the Caps played in the first round, there wasn’t really much reason to believe they wouldn’t come out and at least give it their all if they could in the second round. Between that and the additions made over the offseason I think GMGM was comfortable giving Boudreau one more shot.
So what’s the do-over? I think perhaps it’s in what wasn’t done as opposed to what was - if the Caps were going to go out and spend to fill holes (holes that needed to be filled: grit, defensive depth, a Boyd Gordon replacement, etc) they should have at least taken a swing at the issue that always seems to plague this team, and that’s the lack of a second line center. We’re living out the scenario right now that’s been the fear of many a Caps fan in recent years: what does this team do without Backstrom in the lineup? Without 19 you’re bumping a kid who isn’t even a bona fide second-line center yet up to first-line duty, leaving the second and third lines potentially even weaker up the middle.
JP: If McPhee could take a mulligan, I’d think it’d be on Joel Ward. He’s already admitted that he overpaid by 15 percent or so, and Ward’s production has been nearly non-existent (as much as he may have been acquired for the playoffs, that doesn’t mean at thing if they don’t get there first). But more than any of that - because I do believe he can be a valuable contributor - Hunter doesn’t seem to be maximizing the return on investment for Ward, not using him on the penalty kill much at all and not leaning on him as a shutdown guy nearly as much as I’d expected. If this is how Ward’s going to be deployed going forward, that 15% overpay goes much, much higher.
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The Caps are missing key ingredients to a Stanley Cup contender, pieces that were missing last year and remain missing this year.
Like an elite goalie and more experiences blue-liners?
Yup. Still missing those.
Don’t forget the 2C.
I am cautiously optimistic TV is going to round into form come the spring. He’s not elite, but he can play an elite game in stretches.
Cross check and all call.
by bigonetimer on Jan 13, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
I was happy to see JP throw out 28 as a disappointment. In the past, I’ve been hesitant to criticize Semin because I knew that he had the talent and potential to do so well. However, his performance this season (and most of last season) has tried my patience. For everyone who says that we shouldn’t get rid of him because it will nullify any scoring threat on the second line – guess what – we’re already there. His performance is very binary in nature – he’s either very much “on” or he is very much “off”.
BTW – this roundtable discussion is another great example of the excellent work that makes this blog so great.
Why do I have the feeling that if we win a Stanley Cup this year, Semin will score like 2 goals throughout the entire 4 rounds, and yet somehow score the game 7 finals OT winner?
by Brainumbc on Jan 13, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for the kind words.
And I’ll probably get bashed by Semin supporters for mentioning him, but the reason he’s a disappointment to me is that I believe in his talent and that he should be dominating; when he’s not, it’s a let down.
In other words, if you’re not disappointed by his performance so far, you think less highly of him than I do… which would be weird of people who consider themselves fans of his.
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by J.P. on Jan 13, 2012 11:37 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions 2 recs
So, if GMGM has the chance to say, swap Semin for Getzlaf or Roy, a) does he do it, and b) will that push them into contention?
I think yes. The Caps could be in Cup contention with Vokes/Neuvy and I dare say with the current D if the offense was generating more chances.
Question 1: Let’s start with the big one – is this Capitals team headed to the post-season, and, if so, can they do any damage once they get there?
This season resembles the 2007-2008 season in one important respect. The Caps path to the playoffs is easier by going in as a three-seed (as Southeast Division champs) than if they were to have to rely on conference seeding. I do not see Florida as being able to sustain their first half performance (32 of their 50 standings points have been earned in one-goal games; only four teams have earned more standings points in one goal games, including those settled in extra time). Winnipeg has problems winning on the road as bad as the Caps and, I think, will start to have that whole "yeah, they’re in the Southeast…of Manitoba" problem with travel start hitting them as the season wears on. So yes, the Caps make the playoffs. Will they do damage? There is no opponent I foresee – not even Boston – against whom I would dismiss the Caps in four or five games. By the same token, there is no opponent I foresee that couldn’t eliminate the Caps that way. And the Caps have to win four series like that? They could – it’s hard to know whether, like Boston last season, they will play their best hockey in the spring. But it would not be the way to bet. Unless they find that kind of magic, winning a round would be an expectation, but a second would not.
Question 2: How nervous are you that Dale Hunter might not be able to make the jump from OHL to NHL? What happens if he doesn’t find success?
OK, Randy Carlyle won a Cup in his second year as an NHL bench boss with the Ducks, and Dan Bylsma won one with the Pens after being an in-season promotion. But Carlyle had experience as an assistant in the NHL (with the Caps), and Bylsma was promoted from within a system in which he knew the players from first hand observation. Hunter has neither of those advantages. But even with that, I don’t fear Hunter’s inability to "make the jump" as much as I fear he does not have the right players to do what his philosophy demands.
Question 3: What has been the most pleasant surprise of the season so far? The most unpleasant surprise?
Pleasant? Evgeni Kuznetsov. Says something that a guy not on the roster making a jump on a world stage (even with his experience) is the most pleasant surprise in the organization. Unpleasant? Alex Ovechkin. He just doesn’t seem to "fill the uniform" anymore. He came into camp said to be in better condition, probably should have had a chip on his shoulder from all the abuse he had taken from the previous 18 months in the hockey press, and was entering what should be his prime years. But he is not a reliable difference maker, and in this respect what is especially alarming is that the mind seems willing, but the body is weak, at least in terms of performance. He can dish out hits, occasionally excite with the big goal, and show the same passion he had in his salad days. But those occurrences do not come as frequently or reliably; he does not as often pull people out of their seats. He does not yet appear "spent," but he is for the moment merely a good player among many, no longer one of a kind.
Question 4: If you were GMGM and you had one do-over from the off-season, what would it be?
Change coaches. If that move is made when the Caps were eliminated, he could have spent the rest of the off season retooling his team to fit his coach. Maybe that still brings in Halpern, Ward, Brouwer, or Hamrlik, maybe not. But it would have avoided trying this shotgun marriage approach between roster and coach once the season was underway. Honorable mention – to hire a full-time yoga instructor so as to perhaps avoid all these groin problems certain players have.
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by ThePeerless on Jan 13, 2012 11:41 AM EST reply actions 8 recs
btw…Florida has earned 30 standings points; the four teams above them are tied with 32.
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by ThePeerless on Jan 13, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
I think only JP answered the “do-over” question. To me the question was really asking which of the FA and trade signings have bombed, and I would agree 100% that it’s been Ward. In hindsight, I would have given that money to Arnott on a 1-yr contract like the one he has in StL.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Jan 13, 2012 12:39 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
AWTEW: I’ll agree. The easy answer is that recaps are the best feature, what with their acrostics and fun nuggets of info, but there’s really nothing better than hearing from differing viewpoints on the same topics.
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Jan 13, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
As far as do-over’s (or maybe regrets?) go, and not just from this past offseason but for the later part of GMGM’s tenure, I agree with Becca. I really would have liked to have seen what BB and the Caps could accomplish with a legit 2C.
I don't want to work, I want to hang on the blog all day.
But to get that 2c, GMGM is going to have to be willing to part with some assets. Is he willing to do that?
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro"
Well, since he hasn’t, then the easy answer is no. But in reality, it’s hard to know what opportunities were available or what he was trying to do behind the scenes that never worked out.
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I don’t know if the problem is GMGM overvaluing Caps players or other GM’s asking the world, but something has to give with 2C. A second line that actually functions would be novel.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro"
To be fair to hindsight here, remember that few projected that 28 would have have performed so poorly this year. As JP correctly noted, he was supposed to be a producer for this line. Likewise, few expected that 3 out of our top 4 ‘guns’ are way below expectations which directly affects the 2nd line productivity, regardless of who the 2C is.
Personally, I think a potential turning point would have been after Brendan Morrison flamed out in the 2009-2010 season and the Caps were trying out Flash and later Belanger in that role and then after the series loss to Montreal. Obviously, the Caps were at their peak that season, winning the Presidents’ Trophy, and if there ever were a time cash out assets to win now, that would have been it.
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The Perfect Storm of underperformance
I think in many ways, you can’t look at any one issue and say, “This is the reason the Caps aren’t meeting expectations”. I think a lot was expected of MJ90 becoming a true, impact 2C and he isn’t ready yet. I think a lot of people expected a more consistant Vocoun/Neuvirth combo, with a much better start out of Vocoun. Nobody saw Neuvirth getting hurt and then struggling to regain his form. There were expectations that Laich and Ward would be better than they have been. Ward started well, but went cold. There is no way Laich is played like a $5M dollar guy, but then really, except for Chimera and Backstrom, have any of the top 9 forwards been meeting or exceeding expectations on a regular basis? A lot of faith was placed on Alzner and Carlson progressing, but Carlson may have regressed, which is a problem, when he’s part of your shutdown pair. Did anyone think Jeff Schultz would falter so badly that we’d be seeing his face on the side of a milk carton? Maybe I have rose colored glasses on from last March, but I just don’t remember Wideman fumbling passes the way he has this year. If all the pieces fall into place, everyone plays up to expectations and everyone matures, this is a really good team. If everyone plays inconsistantly from night-to-night, this is a .500 team, which on any given night can dominate or be dominated. Should they have fired Bruce last spring? Probably, but you could make the argument that he should have been fired two years ago, when the team blew the Montreal playoff series. Publicly, Bruce thought they just ran into a hot goalie and bad luck. Lots of people drank that cool-aid, but the truth is everyone runs into a hot goalie somewhere in the playoffs, and you either slay that dragon or the dragon slays you. Going forward, I think there are still more questions than answers. Is there a chemistry issue in the locker room? Did things get screwed up with the players that were added/subtracted over the last 18 months? Why can’t the Caps play 60 minutes on a regular basis? What happened to Ovie after the 2010 Olympics (pretty good analysis by Peerless)? This group appears to be mentally fragile. What happened to the determination and the swagger? Bill Clement once called Jaromir Jagr an “energy vampire” who sucked the life out of the Caps Locker room as soon as he got here. Is Sasha Semin this team’s “energy vampire”? Is ditching him sooner than later addition by subtraction? What happened to the Powerplay and the ability to play on the Road? In a lot ways, bringing in Dale Hunter to coach thiis group is frought with risk, because of his lack of NHL coaching experience. However, I would argue that this team needed someone in the room (head coach or assistant coach) that brought a certain mean streak and determination that this team lacked. Hunter can bring that, but he has to tap into somebody’s undiscovered potential to “do anything to win”. We’re back to having a whole lot of guys who will do “a lot to win”, but I don’t see the determination on any face to do “anything”. Having said that, the killer Matt Hendricks’ shift in the third period against Pittsburgh, that energized his linemates, was a HUGE step in the right direction. This team needs an intangible that it lacks, but can be found. They have to learn to work hard every shift. Hunter may be less of an X’s and O’s type and more the motivator this team needs, if they can get healthy and add/subtract the right pieces.
by NHL Observer on Jan 13, 2012 1:30 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
The Carlson/Alzner problems are getting a lot of mileage these days. Frankly, their play has been poor for long stretches this season. But first, they have been split up a lot, too. Second, and more important, these guys are still 22 and 23 years old, respectively, with barely 300 games on NHL regular season experience. Perhaps it is a product of their playing so well, and so well together, almost right out of the gate. But the path of young players is not always an uninterrupted upward arc, either. Some backsliding should not be considered much of a surprise.
Now, if the Caps are having this problem two months from now, it’s a problem.
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The biggest regression I’m seeing this year he makes terrible decisions with the puck. Not per se BAD ones…he just rushes to make the conservative play when he doesn’t need to. Every game, the Caps lose a chance at a possession because of this. Anyone else notice this or see what I’m saying?
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The problem I had with firing Bruce early in the season wasn’t so much the change in systems, as much as the fact that it’s harder to move personnel during the season than it is in the off-season. If you’re going to bring in a new voice and a new system, the roster built for the old system is seldom going to be a fit for the new one.
Lots more flexibility to find guys who are suited for the new system if you fire BB in June instead of waiting for him to fail in the fall.
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Question 1: Let’s start with the big one – is this Capitals team headed to the post-season, and, if so, can they do any damage once they get there?
Yes, but only if Backstrom quickly returns to full health. The Caps have essentially equalled the regulation performance of Florida; the only difference between the two teams is in OT/SO. Eventually, the Caps should start benefitting from some “loser” points, while Florida should start to lose more in regulation. One would hope that, as they become more accustomed to Hunter’s defensive system, the underlying talent of Carlznerson begins to shine through.
With that being said, if Backstrom misses significant time (like, into mid-February), the Caps might be done for. The team struggles enough offensively with Backis in the lineup, and without him. . . well, we saw what the Caps can do without him.
Question 2: How nervous are you that Dale Hunter might not be able to make the jump from OHL to NHL? What happens if he doesn’t find success?
The OHL/NHL thing doesn’t bother me. Either Hunter is a good coach and a good fit for the Caps’ roster, or he’s not. The OHL – to – NHL transition is a red herring in my opinion. As to whether he’s a good coach, I think he’s brought in an excellent assistant in Jim Johnson. I think his emphasis on controlling the neutral zone is key. I think his stoic, taciturn demeanor is a good tonic for a Caps roster prone to emotional meltdowns.
WIth that being said, the Jeff Schultz situation is really curious. It’s a sign that Hunter is stubbornly forcing his system onto the team, rather than molding both to fit each other. In the process, he’s essentially destroyed $2.5m of cap value, as Schultz would be unlikely to get much in return on a trade at this point.
The Joel Ward situation is similar – I remember having this discussion with Knee High to a Duck back in the summer. I didn’t much care for the Ward contract because so much of his value was tied up in how he would be used. Ward’s entire value comes from taking on opponents’ top lines and fighting them to a draw in terms of puck possession. I didn’t trust Boudreau to use Ward in the same way that Trotz did. Ironically enough, Boudreau seemed willing to use Ward properly, but Hunter is, again, killing some cap value by using Ward sporadically.
With all that being said, it’s hard to judge Hunter for how he’s coaching a roster full of players that are underperforming their career averages by a rather substantial margin. My most sincere desire is that Hunter instills a new attitude throughout the team. For a lack of better terms, I’d describe that attitude as professional and mature. For too long, the lunatics have run the Caps’ asylum, and Boudreau’s ACCOUNTABILITY! campaign was a sign that the organization wanted to put a stop to it. Now the task falls to Hunter. Good luck with that Dale.
Question 3: What has been the most pleasant surprise of the season so far? The most unpleasant surprise?
I’m going to go a little off-board here with the most pleasant surprise and say Brooks Laich’s performance as a center. There was a lot of gnashing of teeth regarding Brooks’ contract in the summer, with many folks concerned that Bruce had overpaid for Laich, who they viewed as a decent 2W / great 3W. My argument at the time was that Laich would have to turn into one hell of a 3C in order to break even on the contract, and that if he could fill the 2C hole, it’d be a huge value win for the Caps.
Thus far, Laich has done more or less everything expected of him. As the C on the “Insert Nickname Here” line, he’s faced absolutely BRUTAL competition with similarly brutal zone starts. While he’s not necessarily winning the possession battle, he’s definitely at least treading water. Playing alongside Laich has been a major boon to Jason Chimera. When Ovie couldn’t get it going alongside either Backstrom or Johansson, Laich stepped in as his C and Ovie had some of his most productive games of the season.
If Laich could get a little more puck luck (he’s shooting 7.7% with a career average of 10%, and his PDO is an atrocious 979), I’d argue that he could be up there in consideration for the Caps’ MVP (after Backstrom of course).
The most unpleasant surprise thus far has been Mike Green’s groin. I never expected Green to stay healthy, but his previous injuries were upper-body, or the types of injury where only some rest is needed to regain full capacity. As Green has noted, this groin injury might be the kind of thing that seriously impacts his entire career. For a player like Green, who depends on his explosive skating ability to jump into the play and recover defensively, a persistently wonky groin could turn him from a latter-day Paul Coffey into a latter-day Tom Poti.
Question 4: If you were GMGM and you had one do-over from the off-season, what would it be?
I’m going to go a little off-board again. In the summer after the 2008-2009 season, I suggested trading Alex Semin to the Bruins for Patrice Bergeron. Bergeron had recently signed a long-term contract extension, but the Bruins were concerned about his health after a severe concussion cost him almost all of 2007-2008. Moreover, he’d had a brutally unlucky year with the puck, and the Bruins – with Krejci, Seguin from the draft and at that time, a still-active Marc Savard – were stacked at center, while the Kessel trade had left them weak on the wing. At the time, I think the B’s make that trade, if only to get out from under the Bergeron extension.
Maybe such a trade was never really possible, but the idea – to trade Semin for help at center before Semin’s value eventually fell through the floor – was ultimately sound. The Caps are now facing the idea of trading Semin for pennies on the dollar, or watching him leave at the end of the season. Or. . . fuck me. . . re-signing him to another one-year deal.
To answer the question as it was asked, I guess the obvious answer is to fire Boudreau after the Tampa series. Every other decision (Laich’s contract, the Ward/Hamr/Haply signings) flowed from the decision to keep Boudreau. Hunter was handed a roster built for an entirely different purpose.
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by D'ohboy on Jan 13, 2012 2:08 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
The most unpleasant surprise thus far has been Mike Green’s groin.
Totally with you there, and I’m a little surprised Green didn’t come up in the roundtable. I doubt anyone expected him to play 82 games, but he’s on pace for 20! I similarly doubt anyone expected him to miss 3/4 of the season. And we’ve known for a long time how important a healthy Mike Green is to this team.
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by Killer_Carlson on Jan 13, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I guess most of us were thinking in terms of “on ice” when we started talking about disappointments. Losing Green is obviously a huge dagger and I think maybe he deserves some Peyton Manning 2011 credit in the sense that it’s becoming clearer how important he is to this team’s success with each passing game he misses.
Please, call me F&B.
We were also thinking “surprises.”
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So Green only playing 10 games in the first 41 isn’t a surprise to you?
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by Killer_Carlson on Jan 13, 2012 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
I was mostly snarking about how unsurprising it is that he’s missed a ton of time due to injuries. But I think we were trying to focus on on-ice performance and whatnot. Obviously Green’s inability to stay even remotely healthy is a disappointing surprise.
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I think the key for me isn’t simply that he’s missed so many games, it’s that he’s missed them with an injury that may never go away and may prevent him from ever approaching his previous performance.
The only upside of all this is that it’s going to make his next contract much more affordable. In theory.
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I like what I’ve seen and heard from Johnson and I love Hunter’s demeanor. But the talent is more evenly spread in the NHL and I think there is a difference between coaching adult professionals and kids.
We thought about doing a mid-season MVP thing but it was going to be obviously Backstrom.
I could see Hamrlik and Ward and Halpern being signed even if DH was brought in over the summer. Hamrlik has looke much better under DH so there’s no reason to think they would have been scared away from him if they changed coaches. Similarly, Ward and Halpern seem to be guys built for that tight checking 2-1 game that Hunter wants, so why wouldn’t the Caps have looked their way?
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But the talent is more evenly spread in the NHL and I think there is a difference between coaching adult professionals and kids.
While I agree with this, much the same thing could be said of the AHL. Part of the reason the Bears and Chicago Wolves are always so competitive is that their teams prioritize winning over prospect development. The talent spread between a team like Hershey and a team like the Lake Erie Monsters is immense, because the Monsters focus almost exclusively on developing talent for their parent club (the Avs).
I just think some of the players were brought in as a signal to the rest of the roster that it wasn’t the coaching staff’s fault and that Boudreau wouldn’t be made a scapegoat for their failure. It’s entirely possible that the team would have made the same moves.
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I think the focus on the cap hits for Ward and Schultz (and also Knuble) is a really nice perspective. But I see what’s happening there a bit differently. Those three guys, to me, establish the Hunter/Johnson philosophy better than anyone.
Hunter’s rule is simple: you get the playing time you earn. Under Hunter, Ward won’t get lots of shutdown time and PK time because of his reputation — he’ll gets what he deserves based on how he’s playing at the time. It’s hard to say that Ward has been playing great this season. He hasn’t earned the playing time or the role we all hoped he’d have, so he hasn’t had it. And the same calculus goes for Schultz and Knuble.
And that’s where Johnson comes in. Johnson is the guy who breaks down the Caps’ play objectively. The idea seems to be that Johnson’s presence means that Hunter doesn’t have a “doghouse.” That decisions aren’t made on emotion or how a guy “looks” or what he “could” do. The message to the players is clear: play better on Johnson’s objective metrics and you get more playing time. Stink it up, and someone else who is playing better takes your role. That’s the new regime.
The Hunter/Johnson approach raises the risk of bad feedback loops, like (Knuble doesn’t play well so he gets put in a fourth line role where he doesn’t play well so he gets less playing time so he doesn’t put up numbers so…) or (Schultz makes mistakes so his role is reduced so his confidence drops so he plays badly so his role is reduced so his confidence drops so he plays worse so the rookie takes his job so he never plays so…flatline). Which would be more of a concern to me if games were all they’re looking at. But they also run practices, and you have to believe that a few good practices could make a difference in a guy’s favor. Still, it’d be nice to see something from Hunter and Johnson that indicates they can help a guy turn one of these bad loops around.
But anyway, isn’t this the accountability we always wanted? I have to believe that playing the players who are your best players at any given time will make for a better team in the long run. People do better in situations when they know what’s expected of them, they see that good work and good results are rewarded, and they know that decisions are made fairly. I love what I’m seeing so far.
Can Hunter make the jump from the OHL? His system and his management style was made for adults. From what I’ve seen so far, my answer is “hell yes.”
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by Gould Old Days on Jan 14, 2012 7:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Truth. Hunter is all about ice time—immediate ice time. In the post game interview I noticed that Brouwer mentioned that after the first ineffective PP Hunter told him that he needed to step it up or he won’t see much time on the remaining PP. Lo and behold but the next one was a thing of beauty with lots of movement, quick passing, a Brouwer screen, and an Ovi goal. Hunter is definitely about accountability.
Knuble: "I am what I am. I play well with good players."
On his milestone: "It's going to be like unwrapping a birthday present. Then the day after you're kind of like [sighs]....Now you just have to keep going."
by capsyoungguns on Jan 14, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, and by the way, I think the point about OT/SO is a good one too. The Caps have the most wins and the most ROW in their division, having played the least number of games. And there is no shootout in the playoffs.
The Caps have the most GF in their division and the second best GA. Florida’s ahead by two standings points on the strength of 8 OTLs and with a -10 goal differential. Which is the second best goal differential in the division.
So if you’re wondering if the Caps will make the postseason, the answer is “yes, as the third seed.”
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by Gould Old Days on Jan 14, 2012 7:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Totally agree with JP’s point on games being a coin flip. I have to laugh when the upcoming schedule is mentioned in other posts as if this team could skate by anyone on a nightly basis.
by ralCapsFan on Jan 13, 2012 3:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Here's the problem
A lot of talk about systems being geared towards the playoffs, once you get in the playoffs anything can happen.
Well, yes, but look at the SC winners in recent and not so recent history. They have all had very good to great regular seasons except for probably the Pens in 08-09 who were 45-28-9, but 18-3-4 under Bylsma.
I think the de-emphasis on the regular season has it’s merits. Winning the Presidents Trophy and getting the #1 seed are not essential, but a team sneaking in with 90-94 points is just not likely to win. How the mighty have fallen since the pre-season predictions.
It isn’t even anger-inducing. It does not seem to be worth that kind of emotional investment. It might not even be disappointing any more. It is expected.
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To echo the thoughts of many here, I see the Caps (as they are now) making the playoffs but doing no damage. I think they’d be lucky to get out of the first round.
That said, I cling to the hope that GMGM pulls off one of those trades that makes you hate yourself for thinking he should be fired.
If a team is high on Schultz* or we find a way to dump Semin and then use COL’s pick for someone – that might give us that one spark to be in the mix again.
(*I’m not getting into my opinion of Schultz – that’s not the point. But, it is pretty clear that Hunter thinks he is disposable)
The big picture question to me is: do the Caps, as individuals and collectively, have the intangibles it takes to fight to the death for a Stanley Cup? And the big answer for me is still no.
The rest of it is a wash. We’ve seen what dominant regular season performances mean in the playoffs. By any measure, fancy stats, conventional stats, whatever, the Caps should have made runs in previous playoffs. But they never did, because there is still something missing above the neck. I see few players in the dressing room who can positively affect that aspect. I’m not in there day to day, but for you lawyers out there, res ipsa loquitur…
Last positive note: there’s always hope that getting hot at the right time, adding a key piece in the dressing room, and/or Hunter’s more playoff-conducive style (perhaps?) could provide the confidence and spark for a long postseason run. Stranger things have happened.
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So I think we pretty much all agree that I once again won the roundtable. Winner and still champion…
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I think tuvanhillbilly won on the basis that his input was the least depressing.
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