Wednesday Caps Clips: Blanked in B'more; Capitals @ Blue Jackets Game Day
by J.P. on Sep 21, 2011 6:44 AM EDT
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Your savory breakfast links:
- Recaps and other assorted musings on last night's loss from Caps365 video (Boudreau, players), Vogs, WaPo (Carrera), WashTimes (Whyno), Baltimore Sun, CW (Whyno here, here, here, here and here), CI (El-Bashir), CSN Washington (Gormley), DCEx (McNally here, here and here), Patriot-News (Leone), 106.7 The Fan (audio), Frankovic, RMNB, Caps News Network, Nosebleeds and Puckhead.
- Previews and sorta-previews of tonight's game in C'bus coming soon, and be sure to check out our SB Nation partner, The Cannon, for more coverage from the other side of tonight's match-up.
- Yesterday brought another round of cuts of guys you won't miss... [CI (Carrera)]
- ... and a scrimmage back at the ranch. [CI (El-Bashir, with other notes worth checking out), FanPost, Caps In Pictures (pics)]
- Nicklas Backstrom is eager to rejoin the League of Extraordinary Pivots. [NHL.com (Masisak)]
- Rejoice, armchair coaches! Alex Ovechkin won't be playing the point on the power-play, it seems. [CI (Carrera)]
- Tomas Vokoun is ready for his close-up. [CI (Carrera), The Rat Trick]
- The Caps' offense - like, all of it - is due. [TSN.ca (Cullen)]
- When you're Jay Beagle, you'd better work hard if you want to stay in the NHL... and boy, does he. [CI (Carrera)]
- Looking forward to the season that will be for Jeff Halpern... [Peerless]
- ... and Matt Hendricks. [Peerless]
- Graham Mink's veteran savvy will serve Hershey well... and may even rub off on some of the folks who'll stay in D.C. [KOL]
- Why it's important that Brooks Laich plays center. [CRtC]
- If you're a masochist, you might enjoy these videos of the Caps endurance testing. [Alex Ovetjkin]
- Our friends in the Motor City preview the Caps. [Winging It In Motown]
- Washington Capitals, The Sneaker. [Capitals Outsider]
- Here's another Caps Convention After Party reminder for you peerless procrastinators. [RSVP]
- Finally, happy 42nd birthday to Curtis Leschyshyn, and happy 29th birthday to the one and only Brett Leonhardt.
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Per Cullen:
NHL Depth Chart – Washington Capitals
LW C RW
Alexander Ovechkin Nicklas Backstrom Alexander Semin
Troy Brouwer Brooks Laich Mike Knuble
Jason Chimera Marcus Johansson Joel Ward
I have no doubt these combos will be used at some point during the season (how’s that for going out on a limb?) but I think Knuble is severely hampered on a line with Semin centered by Laich. If Knuble wasn’t going to be with 8-19 most of the time I don’t think they would have re-signed him.
MJ90 is wasted on a line with Chimera and Ward, IMO. At least in year 2.
Chimera-Laich-Ward could emerge as one of the best shutdown lines in the NHL.
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Has anyone else actually suggested Laich at 2C? Not here, right?
Don’t try to figure Sasha out. Just ride the wave.
It’s been suggested here, and even argued for here a few times. Most people here are against it though.
My mind is all twisted like a peanut.
I don’t think anyone here wants BL21 as a scoring line center. If memory serves the people (myself included) who want him as 2C want him to log a lot of ice against top lines, like Kesler in 09-10 or Mike Richards.
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by red army line on Sep 21, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the problem with reading depth charts as line combinations (which I don’t think is Cullen’s intention here… at least I hope not) and doing depth charts that slot each guy at only one position. It’s why when we posted ours, we were sure to explicitly state that they weren’t line combos. I could be wrong, though, but I don’t think Cullen’s a dope. Far from it.
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This is the problem with reading depth charts as line combinations
You are correct, but then it should prob be formatted a different way. I get that Semin is the best RW, but I don’t think he is the RW1, which is Knuble.
Confusing for sure.
I don’t think Cullen’s a dope. Far from it.
Agreed. Although he did take MSL in the first round at #10 last night of our ESPN mock fantasy draft.
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he did take MSL in the first round at #10 last night
Stinkin’ genius!
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How much did you have to trade to move up to take Skinner first overall?
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by J.P. on Sep 21, 2011 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
You’ll get to see who and where Skinner was drafted on Friday. Results will be public. Maybe it was me. Maybe it wasn’t…
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You can tell me who and by whom MSL was picked but not Bieber? Tease…
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With Ovechkin (seemingly) taken off the point on the power play, I may have to re-think the idea that Boudreau can’t make adjustments. It just takes him over a year of having problems to finally come up with a change or solution. Which … still makes me think he’s not a good enough coach to take a team to the Stanley Cup.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Sep 21, 2011 7:42 AM EDT reply actions
Well hey, no luck with it last night so maybe he goes back to the point now.
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by Bald Pollack on Sep 21, 2011 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions
If it doesn’t provide immediate returns, it was never worth trying at all.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Sep 21, 2011 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he showed he can and will make adjustments, the bigger question is the response time and whether he can make the adjustments quickly enough to respond in a 7 game series. For me, that’s all that matters. Given how long the D adjustments and this PP adjustment took, I’m happy they were made but I’m still skeptical.
Obviously, this is all speculation.
by Rob Parker on Sep 21, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I hardly think Boudreau has an excuse this year. It’s interesting to me that McPhee seemingly had to step in and implement a more hard-ass culture in the off-season all on his own. I’m sure he figures that Boudreau is still learning how to be an NHL coach, to some degree and has given him a lot of leeway for that reason.
I don’t think BB has an excuse either, and I hope I didn’t imply that. My stance on BB is pretty well on record at this point…
I’m just trying to give him credit when he does adjust. If he really takes AO off the point, that deserves credit. I’m still concerned that it took over one full season before he made that adjustment.
Obviously, this is all speculation.
McPhee seemingly had to step in and implement a more hard-ass culture in the off-season all on his own
Hmm… please expand as to how this is all GMGM and BB shares no part in it.
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Albeit with limited information about what goes on behind closed doors, I’m referring to the conditioning stuff. The personal visits McPhee has been making to the young guns, the public statements about being in better shape, and based on his quotes it seems like he was the driver behind the recent conditioning test.
or it’s nothing more than BB and GMGM playing good cop-bad cop
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I doubt much happens without both of them being of the same opinion.
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I don’t really know how their relationship works other than the two minutes they were talking in GMGM’s office on 24/7. Is it a real partnership or is it more of a boss-employee dynamic? Given Boudreau’s reputation as a “player’s coach”
I could also see McPhee having sat BB down after the season to discuss the need to instill more discipline when it comes to training, in-season habits and the like.
Again, just theorizing.
Strange...
One strange thing… I don’t by any means think Vogel is an idiot. During his sit-down with BB, he said that Bruce was “exceptional at making adjustments on the fly… one of the best (he’d)ever seen, in fact.” They were talking about line changes, predominantly, and having a feel for what combos will work at what time. Seems a bit incongruous coming from someone who’s opinion I respect. I could see him blowing smoke up Bruce’s ass with the “exceptional…” comment, but when he embellished it with “…best I’ve ever seen”, it made me think he meant it.
I’m actually in the Bruce Boudreau camp. I think he’s a fine coach who, along with his players, is learning what it takes to win at the highest level (playoffs), and I think he, like his team, will get there.
I don't know, maybe it was the roses...
That’s mostly my point. What good is a coach who can adjust, but can’t do it quick enough to adapt in the playoffs.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Sep 21, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Tonight in Baltimore we might get the first look at the Capitals’ power play this year, which in drills Monday featured one very noticeable change – Alex Ovechkin playing on the half board rather than his usual spot on the point.
Words can’t even describe how happy this makes me. I’m just praying that this lasts.
given the pictures I’ve seen of the ice and all the reports of how craptastic it was I think that you can read exactly ZERO into the game last night
by Beakers Lab on Sep 21, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Whoosh?
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by Bald Pollack on Sep 21, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Sloan said he got soaked every time out on the ice. Was saying it was down to the concrete along the boards in some spots. Not good.
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by Davethecapsfan on Sep 21, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Later on he said “the ice was like Semin — it just stopped caring at times”
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by sydtron on Sep 21, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
the ice was like Semin
Fun with homonyms!
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You could see sprays of water flying around in the 2nd. Didn’t seem as bad in the third
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by Sombrero Guy on Sep 21, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Hard to tell much from that pic – most of those cracks are under the top layer of relatively smooth ice, supposedly.
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The worst indictment came from Sloaner, who reported that the corners were melted to the concrete. Ovi also mentioned this in his post-gamer, saying they tried to stay away from the corners. Sheesh.
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that may be the case but you know that seeing those cracks under the ice couldn’t have been very reassuring for the players.
by Beakers Lab on Sep 21, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
The ice was definitely disappointingly bad. Wouldn’t shock me one bit if this didn’t happen again until the new arena gets built in Baltimore…whenever that is http://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore/news/2011/05/25/new-baltimore-arena-design-funding.html
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by Sombrero Guy on Sep 21, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
From yesterday’s scrimmage (TEB piece):
Jeff Schultz and Dennis Wideman looked like a D-pair that’s logged some big minutes in the NHL together before. Oh wait, they have. So it should come as no surprise they were the best blueliners on the ice.
These two are the presumed 3rd pair, right? Good to know the chemistry’s there, and that Wideman’s back in form.
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With everyone healthy (so … 20 games or so), the Caps will have one of the deepest blue-lines in the league . Possibly the best top-6 in the league.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Sep 21, 2011 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t disagree. FWIW, one vote for the Sharks.
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Which raises the question, what is the over/under for # of games in which 52, 44, 55, 27, 74, and 6 play together.
I’ll be optimistic and go 55.
Second question, how many games with the Caps have a defensemen who is not 52, 44, 55, 27, 74, 6 or 4?
I’ll also be optimistic here and say 10.
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No way on earth those six play 55 games together. And no way on earththe Caps only need 10 games played by guys currently not in their top-seven D.
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What do you think the numbers are?
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Forget top 6 — I think the odds are pretty good they get 30 games from non-top-7 guys.
I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see at least 10 games from non-top-8 guys.
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by Gould Old Days on Sep 21, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Hard to say on the first one.
On the second let’s look at it this way. The team’s top-seven entering the season last year were 3, 4, 27, 52, 55, 74 and 89, right? They ended up getting 80 games from D’s outside that group last year. Now, you wouldn’t expect a Poti-level injury, so and there isn’t as pressing a need to go out and get a Hannan… but I still put the number in the 20-30 range pretty comfortably.
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I know one year is not a trend, but let’s take a look at last year —
- Alzner, Schultz, Erskine and Carlson played 72 or more last year.
- Hannan played in 55 games, having been acquired after game 25. That’s 55 of 57.
- Poti and Sloan played a combined 54. Fahey played 7 and Collins played in 4.
- Wideman played in 14 of 20 after he was acquired, and 61 of 62 for the Panthers before he was traded.
- Hamrlik played in 79 of the Candiens 82 games.
- Green, obviously was a problem, playing only 49 games.
If we are allowed to modify who is in the top 6 is over time (which I think is cheating, but works in my favor), then our Alzner, Schultz, Carlson, Wideman and Hannan missed no more than 10 games each. Erskine missed only 9.
I think 55 out of those top 6 is doable. 10 games of 7D and above is probably too optimistic.
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that John Erskine played 73 games last season and I didn’t pull my hair out is mindblowing.
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It will be interesting to see how many he plays this year, as the clear 7D.
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Alzner, Schultz, Carlson, Wideman and Hannan missed no more than 10 games each. Erskine missed only 9.
Right, but there’s overlap.
Erskine’s not ready to go right now. Hamrlik’s a little tight in the groin. They could be on their 8th D in the first week of the season and get 10 games from 8-and-below in October. I don’t think that’s likely, but I can’t imagine there were too many teams in the League that got away with fewer than 10 games played by #8 and below last year.
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JP – I know the math doesn’t work because of the overlap. I’m just saying it could happen.
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Well, yeah. The top-six could play 82 games each.
But if it’s not Poti/Green (like it was last year), maybe it’s Hamrlik/Schultz this year. Or someone else. Or maybe Schultz regresses even further or for to add depth they go get someone at the deadline. I just think they’d be extraordinarily lucky to only call on someone outside the top-seven ten times this year.
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I'm smelling a Noon Number
I’m going with 20 for the top six.
And 35 for non-top 7 appearances.
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by bilspacecadet on Sep 21, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep. But “looked like a D-pair that’s logged some big minutes in the NHL together before. Oh wait, they have” is a bit much – they’ve played a total of 128:17 regular season 5v5 minutes together. They were slightly out-Corsi’d together too, fwiw, especially when games were close. Small samples, though, which circles back to my original point.
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And just to beat a dead horse here, Wideman and Schultz both averaged between 17:15 and 17:29 of ES ice time per game last season. So they’ve skated the equivalent of just over seven games together.
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In other words, the average Caps post-season stint of games.
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by ThePeerless on Sep 21, 2011 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
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“The crowd was electrified by Alex Ovechkin and Ryan Ellis in their haunting pairs skating free style performance to “Dance of the Wild Men” from the Polovtsian Dances by Alexander Borodin."
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I really think the video of that hit needs sound effects. BOINK!
That'll make your weagle wink!
The pants that bind us should be left behind us.
Or the sound of bowling pins being knocked down…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Sep 21, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Just found out I’m going to the game against the Ducks on Nov. 1st, my buddy has seats in 105 about 7 rows back and they have such a great view. Really hoping for a game similar to last year’s, maybe with slightly better D.
I’m going this year. If Teemu ain’t on the ice, I’m hopping on it and taking out Hiller’s leg, Tonya Harding style.
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Why?? WHYYYYYYYYY??
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Sep 21, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’ll let Hiller know it’s because the last time the Ducks played here Selanne was out for a hip injury or something. This will most likely be my last chance to see him play and I’m going to be pissed if he’s injured again.
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Really enjoying all the detailed reports from training camp that icehammer97 has been providing.
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It’s good stuff. Dude should hook himself up with a blog… though by using the SB Nation platform, he essentially has. Don’t know if people are aware, but when you (all of you) create content via FanPosts or FanShots, you essentially have created your own blog. Here’s icehammer97’s. Here’s bagace’s. Here’s Neil’s (note that stuff you post on other SBN sites shows up here as well). These blogs can be subscribed to via RSS (if, say, there’s a particular poster’s stuff you want to be sure not to miss), etc.
Yet another cool SBN feature, if you ask me.
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by J.P. on Sep 21, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
damn, that’s useful to know about.
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Good to know. BTW, I’ll be naming my blog "Not This Shit Again ".
by S h a g g y on Sep 21, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey look, I have my own blog!
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you need to update your signature. MOAR LINKS!
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by RedBirdie on Sep 21, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Ha. “See my work on WaPo’s Capitals Insider, ESPN Insider, Japers’ Rink and Russian Machine Never Breaks (RMNB) Insider” would be awesome.
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it has to say Japers’ Rink Inside to keep the theme consistent.
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Insider.
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Right. We probably don’t want to know what goes on Inside Japers’ Rink. Especially when talk of Semin comes up. So to speak.
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by AMusingFool on Sep 21, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Observations from last nights shut out
Trade Ovechkin, Trade Semin for a bag of pucks, Fire Boudreau, Move Green to Wing, and bring Varly back.
No Really who else is jacked to finally have hockey back…even though most of us couldnt watch it.
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You forgot to add “Go Flyerzzzzz” at the end of your posting. ;-)
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Sep 21, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly :)
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hey there, was wondering if you made it to the game! Did Lil’Cap-O-Vens go with you? and is he bugging you for new Bauer skates yet? ;)
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haha, no mention of bauer skates yet, buuut he is on me for a new stick, complaining the flex is too stiff, jeez hes only 8. We didnt make it out, I had a dinner meeting, although I do feel shame for not supporting the Caps BMore fanbase…
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Interesting to see the two-headed monster (Katie and Tarik) that now adorn the masthead on CI. Two beat reporters from the Post basically covering the Caps on full-time basis? Just another sign of the coming apocalypse.
(I’d rather have a single Dave Fay)
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by Gould Old Days on Sep 21, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
So very this.
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by Bald Pollack on Sep 21, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Or failing that, Corey.
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by Knee high to a duck on Sep 21, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Dunno how full time they are. If Tarik heads out on the road with the Caps, then maybe (and no, Baltimore doesn’t count as out on the road).
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Sep 21, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
So. This was the old-look Caps playing. Be interesting to see how it looks when the new guys get in the lineup.
Ward, brouwer, halpern, Vokoun, all kept separate from the core throughout training camp thus far.
Be interesting to see when the finally get together.
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by EmilyB on Sep 21, 2011 9:41 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
So…Columbus played TWO games yesterday, split squad style, but neither Nash nor Carter played in either. One Alexandre Giroux did. It will be fun to see Nash and Carter presumably take the ice tonight – that has the makings of a great combo.
yeah, I’m pretty interested to see what Nash can do with a quality linemate. In other CBJ news, RJ Umberger signed a 5 year, $23m contract. Apparently they gave him $1 for every time he was lit up for skating with his head down.
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Steinz recaped the game for us:
Pre-game ceremony, hoopla, Langway, Hoiles, puck drop, warm, hot, humid, ice, puddles, ice, sloppy, slushy, never again, mush, glare, wet, puddles, ice, goal, sweating, sauna, tropical, ice, hotter than an equatorial pizza oven in hell, sloppy, HOLY COW SOMEONE THREW A CRAB ON THE ICE HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, warm, hottest building in the Western Hemisphere, giant lakes of water big enough to house worldclass aquariums, ice, ice, ice, ice, ice, ice, ice, ice.
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by RedBirdie on Sep 21, 2011 10:13 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Surprised he ended with “ice, ice, ice (x8)”.
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by Carl Putnam on Sep 21, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Sounds like small craft warnings were issued. Speaking of which, I have gotten way into Heavy Seas beer – good stuff.
by S h a g g y on Sep 21, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
He left out the “Baby” after the “ice, ice” part…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Sep 21, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
VogsCaps
#Caps 9/21 cuts: Bouchard, de Kastrozza, Galiev, Greentree, Kane, Lacroix, Mink, Mitchell, Paquette, Baier, Miskovic, Oreskovic, Stevenson.
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Galiev, as good as he is, really didn’t have a chance at cracking the team yet.
Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."
Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.
I was hoping he’d stick around a bit longer, though.
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by red army line on Sep 21, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Was hoping he’d dress for CHI and that CHI would dress Carcillo. And that somehow the two would knock each other out of hockey.
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I’m surprised to see Galiev go so soon. I thought he might get another game, just for fun.
by DrinkingPartner on Sep 21, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s going to Hershey.. best he get used to his teammates that he’ll be playing with most of the year as soon as possible.
Some of these guys may be back for preseason games to fill out the roster…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Sep 21, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s going back to Juniors, not Hershey, which is why it’s surprising.
by DrinkingPartner on Sep 21, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
No, he’s not. He goes back to Saint John for the Q season, and they’ll be super happy to have him back.
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Rest of them are getting a nice break to get their stuff together before Hershey’s camp starts next Monday.
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Actually, I think they report on Sunday.
And yes, it is typical that they send some guys down to get settled, plus some vets to provide some leadership. Some years, the Caps have actually brought a player or two back up to Washington later to play in a preseason game (Incl. Kane, IIRC) although with the competition in camp this year, seems doubtful they’d do that.
Man, had to read that twice; thought I’d read Boudreau starting that list.
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by AMusingFool on Sep 21, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
So with today’s cuts and expected line-up in Columbus tonight, here’s some info:
By my count, 44 players (not counting Poti who didn’t clear medical) remaining in camp:
- All are under contract with Washington, except 4 Hershey contract players (Rechlicz, Carrol, Brouillette, & Wellar)
- 6 remaining from rookie camp: Sjogren, Eakin, Orlov, Flemming, Anderson, Grubauer
- 2 expected to play in the first 2 preseason games are Beagle and Bourque.
- 6 Players not expected to play tonight who won’t have dressed for a game plus 2 goalies (Vokoun and Sabourin): Erskine (no contact), Brouwer (recovering from injury), Richmond, Ford, Aucoin, Potulny
"Hopefully I’m going to have the chance, which I didn’t have the last few years, which is to sit in that crease and some games and the score is 4-1 or 5-1," Vokoun said. "I don’t have to worry every minute of every game. If it’s 1-1 or 2-1 and every mistake you make people tell you, ‘Oh, you give up bad goal then we lost.’ It’s kind of hard when every game is like that. Once in awhile you’re going to give up a bad goal."
Does anyone else find this a little troubling? Makes it sound like Vokoun is thinking that being a Cap is going to somehow be less stressful, or that he can make more mistakes and still win.
by DrinkingPartner on Sep 21, 2011 10:37 AM EDT reply actions
I thought it was interesting given the results of my review of how many points the soft goals cost FLA. I think he may be right that he was frequently blamed for costing points in close game.s
Obviously, this is all speculation.
It makes him sound unfocused to me, which surprises me. I’m hoping this isn’t why he didn’t go in the first day of FA.
by DrinkingPartner on Sep 21, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
You’re reading too much into it. Vokoun’s a professional – he’ll be fine.
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Probably, but that seems like an odd standpoint.
by DrinkingPartner on Sep 21, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Not sure how you see that as unfocused. To me, it’s a very good goalie saying “I finally don’t have to be perfect for my team to win”. More to the point, maybe he’s really saying “I’m finally playing with guys whose talent level matches my own.”
And I say give TV29 some time and space. The press corps was tiny and indifferent at best in Florida. He gave long and thoughtful answers to to questions he received yesterday, and he is still grieving the loss of his friends (at the funeral he went to back home he was a pallbearer.)
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I don’t find it troubling as much as find it realistic. The Caps were a much better team than Florida last year, and Vokoun was stealing points for them…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Sep 21, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s just telling it like it is. I played goalie for my High Schools Soccer team as a Freshmen the first year we opened. Most games were extremely lopsided losses. It wears on you physically and mentally to be on a team that is constantly outperformed, and I think Vokoun is excited to finally have some support. And in return for that added support, we get a guy who is capable of winning games by himself.
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by JediChewbacca on Sep 21, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t find it troubling at all. It sounds like he’s feeling less pressure to have to be perfect all the time which in turn should result in a better performance. I know that having to be perfect in order to have a chance will just wear you down and can actually be detrimental to your performance.
by Beakers Lab on Sep 21, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
In every scenario he mentions, Vokoun has only allowed one goal per game. I don’t find a goalie who believes he will be working with a 1.00 GAA most games too troubling.
by Feneban on Sep 21, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hrm. Someone better clue him in that the juggernaut is dead. It’s all ball bearings closely fought affairs these days.
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But even last year’s edition of the Caps outscored the Panthers on the whole, (Maybe not in December but as a rule, yes). Not talking about the head to head but rather the aggregate statistics.
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by JediChewbacca on Sep 21, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
It’d be pretty sad if Varlamov ends up having made his best save of the season in September…
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by Gould Old Days on Sep 21, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
No content on the front page, yo.
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I think he means “no”. I’m not seeing it. I had to click the link from Twitter to read the article
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yeah, not seeing any content above today’s Clips on the front page.
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someone stole our content?! break out the pitchforks and torches and let’s go steal it back!
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by RedBirdie on Sep 21, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh she turned me into a newt!
I got better…
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by JediChewbacca on Sep 21, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
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by Gould Old Days on Sep 21, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Imagine
Imagine if Montreal’s preseason games not being televised. The city would riot! We can’t even get a frickin stream online let alone no live tv coverage, and we’re supposed to be “building America’s hockey capital”.
I miss living in Montreal :(
Chillax, bro – we’re building, here. Recall that Rome wasn’t built in a day…
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I just scanned my listings for the Expos game and I couldn’t seem to find it. Are they not televised anymore?
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by Alz in the family on Sep 21, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Look, I don’t want to be an asshole or anything, but there’s a column that was posted on the Post’s site earlier that might be the single worst sports column I’ve ever read. Ever.
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If we’re thinking of the same article, it was the definition of pointless, wasn’t it?
by DrinkingPartner on Sep 21, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Substantively vapid and stylistically atrocious.
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if I were to attempt to write “the worst WaPo sports column EVER” based on a couple decades of slogging through endlessly atrocious WaPo sports columns, I couldn’t have even remotely come close to that steaming pile of shit.
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Can you spare a link, please?
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Never mind. J.P.’s “vapid” comment helped me figure it out.
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What else were you expecting?
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by Bald Pollack on Sep 21, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
But it’s Fun! Especially if you add lots of exclamation points! And you make sure to include links to tons of Wapo content (which would lead to more page hits for the Sports section)!
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If we were looking for “what is worse than a Bleacher Report slideshow?”, I think we found it. It’s even worse considering it is mid September. No need to be that desperate for an angle this time of year.
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by Carl Putnam on Sep 21, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, I’m embarrassed to have read that. I couldn’t even get through the whole thing.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 21, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Prettee crappee article…
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by J.P. on Sep 21, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Your subtletee is amazeeng.
"Neuvy was eating pucks for breakfast, lunch, and dinner."
by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 21, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet you a crisp $10 bill I can make an even more subtle reference.
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Tiger cat.
"You just have a sense," Holland says. "The type of player you want, the type of situation you reference for your next game, you see it."
by Acer Jonesy's Laughker on Sep 21, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
City in which F&B went to college.
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by J.P. on Sep 21, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You joshin’.
"You just have a sense," Holland says. "The type of player you want, the type of situation you reference for your next game, you see it."
by Acer Jonesy's Laughker on Sep 21, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Pssh, that’s easy.
Release the Mackan!
by Killer_Carlson on Sep 21, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
How about… safety school north of where F&B went to college…
Obviously, this is all speculation.
by Rob Parker on Sep 21, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Manipulative bastard. Thanks to you, I’m guessing I “read” the “column” referenced above. It was “written” by someone whose “words”, if they were on newsprint, I wouldn’t even use to light my charcoal. Someone I swore never to “read” again. Fuck.
"You just have a sense," Holland says. "The type of player you want, the type of situation you reference for your next game, you see it."
by Acer Jonesy's Laughker on Sep 21, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m sorree.
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by J.P. on Sep 21, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Apologee accepted.
"You just have a sense," Holland says. "The type of player you want, the type of situation you reference for your next game, you see it."
by Acer Jonesy's Laughker on Sep 21, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
tonight’s line up, from TEB
Forwards
Bourque-Perreault-Ward
Chimera-Sjogren-Micflikier
Hendricks-Halpern-Beagle
Carroll-Hanson-Rechlicz
Defense
Schultz-Wideman
Hamrlik-Carlson
Orlov-Brouillette
Goalies
Holtby
Grubauer
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Brouwer’s shoulder must not quite be ready yet, I figure…
And nice double-duty for Beags.
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He’s been working all summer for the opportunity.
by DrinkingPartner on Sep 21, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Bruce is taking the #needsmoreBeagle approach.
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I’m willing to throw the kid a bone.
ba-zing.
Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."
Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.
by breaklance on Sep 21, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
hah, the forwards look like a post fire sale lineup from just before the lockout.
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by Sombrero Guy on Sep 21, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
...
happy birthday to the world greatest backup-backup-backup-backup goalie! Relive those ten glorious minutes of fame.
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by RedBirdie on Sep 21, 2011 12:20 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
ESPN Article
Ovie is on the front page at ESPN.com. ESPN posted some data that has the Caps at #1 overall and winning the Cup.
You need an Insider subscription to see.
They project a Caps-Canucks cup final. Neil most certainly will like the #FancyStats in the article. They’ve looked at both regular season and playoff success metrics.
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It’s over, guys, he got the big contract – no need to keep pumping his tires…
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FWIW – here are the calculations/formula. Alvin Chang was behind it.
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by Bald Pollack on Sep 21, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
uh, have they watched the Capitals? That might be even stupider than Tracy Hamilton’s “column” today.
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Is this worth buying the dead-tree version on the newsstand?
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Probably not. Besides, you can probably scan it at the newsstand and get the gist.
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Neil most certainly will like the #FancyStats in the article.
I have #fancystats for all 30 teams coming in the NHL ESPN preview. I think it goes out tomorrow.
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Ryan Miller better lock up his china cabinet…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Sep 21, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, it sounds like Pinizzotto made a positive impression during the Canucks preseason game last night.
Good on you, Pinner.
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His goal was a shocker (very quick hands…right on target??), but his terrific pass for the primary assist was a breakaway and very reminiscent of some of the passes he’d made while here.
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Watched a few minutes of that Calgary-Vancouver game last night. Besides Pinner, Quintin Laing was also playing (for Calgary). And Marco Strum played really well too.
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I saw some of that game. Pinner was inches away from a goal in the 1st. Just couldn’t get his stick on a pass where he got in perfect position. Sturm was looking like his old self, and Laing was Laing – tons of energy and effort, not much offense.
My mind is all twisted like a peanut.
Jay Beagle is Quintin Laing without the bad luck
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by Gould Old Days on Sep 21, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree. Beagle is a better hockey player than Laing at both the AHL and NHL level from what I have seen watching both of them during their careers.
I agree with this – Jay Beagle looks like he can play a role in the NHL and not sink the team every time he’s on the ice. Q never displayed that ability. Tried his ass off? Epitome of guts? The very portrait of a team player? Absolutely. But Jay Beagle is just better, not only luckier.
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by Knee high to a duck on Sep 21, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t jinx him!
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by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 21, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
The Semin article by NGreenberg
I tend to agree with the article. I think one of the main points with Semin is that when he seems to be mentally in the game, he is one of the best all-around wingers in the game, solid defensively and occasionally jaw-dropping offensively, but at times he seems to lose focus, and the biggest knock is his propensity during those times to take silly penalties. I’d like to see a penalties taken/penalties drawn on Semin. Does he truly put his team at a disadvantage that often, or does his elusiveness and skill offensively create as many penalties as he takes?
I don't know, maybe it was the roses...
Last season at even strength he took 1.5 penalties per 60 minutes of ice time while drawing 1 penalty per 60 minutes.
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skill offensively create as many penalties as he takes?
He’s about even or a little in the red, which seems alright on the surface but forwards should really be in the black (red is for defensemen).
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by red army line on Sep 21, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I just read that. Good piece. But what I really enjoyed reading was the wildfire that spread through the comments section. Neil went toe-to-toe with the fiercest of them and held his ground. Never going to change some of those poster’s minds, but I sure enjoyed reading the slugfest. Must say I enjoyed this line about Semin: “Also, what’s his pouts per 60 minutes?”
by capsyoungguns on Sep 21, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Any post, argument, or article that cites aggregate numbers for Alex Semin fundamentally misses the point.
Obviously, this is all speculation.
by Rob Parker on Sep 21, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
As a member of the Mark Streit fan club, I was glad to see the Fishsticks name him their captain.
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Semin is on a PR roll
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CSN’s Jill Sorenson caught up with Alexander Semin after practice today for a pretty funny segment that will air at 6/10/11 PM on CSN
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I assume he means October 6?
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I assume he means 6:00, 10:00 and 11:00.
But I read it as June 10, 2011 at first as well.
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oh. DUH. now I see it.
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Either he’s going by the DD/MM/YY convention or Sasha builds time machines instead of working on his game.
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Maybe in the training room the Caps have… a hot tub time machine.
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The Alex Semin Image Repair Tour is in full swing.
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Matt Bradley must have sore arms from patting his back for “Mission Accomplished”. Whatever that mission was supposed to be.
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I’m sure Matt Bradley forgot about his comments long before anyone north of Sunrise, FL did.
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So trusting twitter again, talk about emotions…
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After releasing him back to his junior team, Flyers called Tomas Hyka at the airport and asked him to come back. Playing w/ Giroux tonight.
Jesus. That’s an emotional roller coaster.
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