Tuesday Caps Clips: Predators @ Capitals Game Day
by J.P. on Sep 20, 2011 6:43 AM EDT
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Your savory breakfast links:
- Previews and sorta-previews of the Baltimore Hockey Classic from Vogs, WaPo (El-Bashir), CW (Whyno), CI (Carrera), DCEx (McNally) and NHL.com, with more on hockey in Charm City at WashTimes (Whyno), CW (Whyno), Capitals Voice, RMNB, Ed Frankovic (who will be hosting a pre-game party at Pickles Pub) and The Hockey Writers, and be sure to check out our SB Nation partner, On The Forecheck, for more coverage from the other side of tonight's match-up.
- Notes and assorted whatnot from out at Kettler:
- In general. [Caps365 video (Boudreau, Ward, Hendricks, Wideman, Holtby), Peerless, FanPost, WaPo (pics), Caps In Pictures (pics of Group A, Group B and Group C), Blonde Girl's Guide (pics)]
- The first cuts have been made, but it's really just a trim. [CI (Carrera)]
- Bruce Boudreau on the first few days of camp. [Caps365 (video), with more at CI (Carrera)]
- The battle for the last couple of forward spots? It's on. [Dump 'n Chase]
- Karl Alzner and John Carlson have set quite the high standard for themselves after last year's breakthrough performances. [NHL.com (Masisak)]
- Marcus Johansson has been centering Alex Ovechkin. Don't read too much into that, though. Or do. [CI (Carrera)]
- A motivated Mike Green has to be a good thing. [CI (Carrera)]
- The Vokeswagon is gassed up and ready to leave the garage. [Caps News Network]
- Can Matt Hendricks' hands catch up with his fists? [KOL]
- A rejuvenated power play sure would be nice. [CSN Washington (Gormley)]
- On the Caps' new style, which is pretty much the old style, but new. [OFB]
- Misery enjoys company. [QMI]
- Dmitry Orlov shares his thoughts on last week's rookie game. [CW (Whyno)]
- Is it too soon to petition Neil Young to re-record this tune as "From Halps to Hendricks"? Eh, probably. [CI (Carrera)]
- Sean Collins made it back to the NHL late last year and is hoping to make it back a bit sooner in the upcoming campaign. [OFB]
- Zach Miskovic looks to be in line for a bigger role in Hershey this year. [Rink Rebel]
- Yeah, I never expected to read the word "lactate" in a post about the Caps (alternatively, this). [Puck 'N Hockey]
- Elsewhere, General Manager George McPhee did a phoner on NHL Live and took the opportunity to defend Alexander Semin and talk about Tom Poti in the past tense (among many other topics touched upon - worth a listen). [Caps365 (video), with a partial transcription at CI (Applebaum) and more from McPhee from QMI]
- Why the news on Poti is good... for at least one guy not named Tom Poti, at least. [FanPost, with a related note at DCEx (McNally)]
- It doesn't get much better than "Hockey Diaries." Literally. [NHL.com (Masisak), and you can now listen to the program on the Caps' site]
- What to expect from Methuselah Knuble. [RMNB]
- Add another to Team You-Know-Who Will Score 50. [RtR]
- Jason Chimera, however, will not. [Peerless]
- The 2011-12 Caps: coming soon (though not soon enough) to a TV near you. [DCEx (McNally), CW (Whyno), CI (Carrera)]
- BREAKING: Win and you'll be well-liked. [CI (Applebaum)]
- The Cap'n does a Nike shoot for GQ. [CI (Applebaum)]
- In praise of Caps customer service. [Chirps]
- OK, it's not Caps-specific, but very cool nonetheless. Read up on some history, young 'uns. [Puck Buddys]
- We're just days away from our Caps Convention After Party - make sure to get your free tix now. [RSVP]
- Finally,happy 61st birthday to Bill Riley, and a belated happy 50th to Don Beaupre, whom we somehow forgot yesterday.
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GMGM phone call with NHLNetwork was pretty interesting. I love his support towards Semin and justified it with stats. Well done.
What doesnt kill you makes you stronger.
by BetterOffWith28 on Sep 20, 2011 6:53 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Through 42 playoff games, Pavel Datsyuk had 3 goals and 12 assists. But the Wings had won a Cup (hist first year, when he wasn’t a terribly integral part of the team) and another playoff series. Still, plenty of people questioned Datsyuk as a playoff performer. Needless to say, they don’t any more.
There’s still time to re-write the narrative…
I thought GMGM’s comments on Poti, btw, should more or less extinguish any thoughts anyone had of him making it back (for the Caps, at the very least).
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For those of us that don’t really have time to listen to the audio, what were his comments on Poti?
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Sep 20, 2011 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I can’t get at it now, but he essentialy used the past tense to describe Poti’s service to the team in a way that seemed to imply that he’s done. Not that it’s all that surprising, but, insofar as I can tell, it was the most stark comment he’s made to that effect. I don’t think I’m reading more into it than I should, but that’s also a possibility.
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If GMGM doesn’t think Poti is coming back, why is he electing to go the LTIR route with him instead of trying to assign him to Hershey? Having banked cap space (or not) could make or break the season.
I guess I’m late to the party but this goes back to the point Gould Old Days was making yesterday. Is he not capable of playing at all? Or is he just not able to play at the same level as before?
Meh, that’s not a huge issue. The decision was made before he “failed.” He just as easily could have “passed” and been immediately assigned. He “failed” because they had no intention of assigning him and were comfortable with an immediate LTIR.
Obviously, this is all speculation.
That’s an awful lot of conjecture, no?
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How so? Obviously anything about behind the scenes is conjecture since none of us were there, but given how other players have been treated and what we generally know about the NHL culture, I think the logic follows.
I’m just saying that I can envision a situation in which Poti was “cleared,” but that situation only comes up if the Caps and Poti had already agreed on a plan to clear his salary after the test. I don’t think he’s an obvious “fail” on the physical; I’m sure he could get on the ice and take a few twirls and be “cleared.”
Obviously, this is all speculation.
Because you’re implying that doctors, in conducting the team physical, lied about his condition to play. That would be grounds for losing their license and I seriously doubt any team doctor would risk a career-destroying decision like that simply to please the team in putting a player on LTIR instead of the AHL.
Given the fact that Poti’s career appears to be in jeopardy (something we have not seen with other players who have gone to LTIR long-term), I find the implication baseless.
Besides, my guess is that the Capitals would be more comfortable with his cap hit in Hershey than him sitting on LTIR. At least he’d be taking the Souray mentoring role and Leonsis would get something for the money he’s handing out to him.
That’s a misunderstanding of how the medical profession and NHL medical assessment works. For one, medical diagnosis is not nearly as objective as you imply. Two different, and honest, doctors can reach differing conclusions.
Second, it implies the NHL, or anyone, oversees the evaluations. They don’t. Teams are free to use whatever doctors and make whatever diagnoses and conclusions that they want. Unless a player cries bloody murder, the NHL simply will not get involved. (See Rathje, Mike; Hatcher, Derian).
Obviously, this is all speculation.
LTIR requires a doctor’s certification that the player cannot play. What you are implying is that a doctor would willfully make a misdiagnosis because a team asked him to for their benefit.
Sorry, I know too many doctors to think they would be that stupid to risk the liability, fraud accusations, and possible loss of career and reputation.
And as I said, this entire implication is completely baseless considering Poti’s status, which has not occurred with other long-term LTIR cases with the Capitals, including Pothier. Your assumption requires that Poti is actually healthy enough to play. With the general manager actually being public with the fact that Poti’s career may be in jeopardy, don’t you find it even remotely surprising that there hasn’t been a direct rebuttal from Poti or his agent? There’s absolutely no logic to your conjecture.
I think you are misunderstanding his argument. For example this:
Your assumption requires that Poti is actually healthy enough to play.
is the exact opposite of what he is saying. He is saying that the doctors clear him as being ready to play so that they can send him to the minors. Then once in the minors he practices and what do you know, he gets “re-injured”.
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by Killer_Carlson on Sep 20, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
And I bet Tom Poti is healthy enough to go dominate the Kettler Men’s League. He just can’t push himself to NHL level, which goes back to Gouldie’s point about whether his new peak is sub-NHL level.
And he still assumes that there is “one true diagnosis” and not a range of potential diagnoses. And he still assumes there is any remote chance of being caught, and charged with fraud, absent the player crying bloody murder (which is an explicit stipulation in my entire argument).
But hey, ripping off J.P.’s lines never goes wrong, so he should stick with that.
Obviously, this is all speculation.
Sorry – ran out to grab lunch. Forsch is pretty much going down the road I was headed, though. It seems that you’re implying that it’s the team and not a doctor who made the decision as to how the results of his physical would be interpreted. Perhaps I’m naive, but I didn’t think that’s how it was done.
Moreover, if that’s how it’s done, why wouldn’t the team have him cleared so they could rid themselves of him and start banking cap space?
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I think what F&B is saying is that he suspects Poti wasn’t cool with being stashed in Hershey.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
Who gives a toss what he’s cool with? He should’ve negotiated an NMC in his contract if he wanted that control.
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Because if the team pushes him to be cleared, and stashes him in the minors then a pissed Poti can raise a big stink, say he was demoted while injured and put the Caps in a big cap circumvention shit storm.
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by Killer_Carlson on Sep 20, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
But he’s saying that the team pushed for the “not cleared.”
If I’m not mistaken, the point that’s implied and getting lost is that Poti and the team, in conjunction (the key point), decided how they’d handle the situation and the physical was a formality based on that decision. Essentially:
GM: Tom, we want to clear you and cut you.
TP: But I’m not good to go.
GM: C’mon. Please?
TP: No.
GM: It’ll help the team…
TP: No.
GM: Alright. You fail your physical and go on LTIR.
TP: Giddy up.
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by J.P. on Sep 20, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can imagine that conversation. I don’t know that it happened or didn’t happen. I’m just saying that the way NHL players handle their grievances (almost always under the table and out of public view) makes it possible that the Caps could have negotiated a situation with Poti and the medical analysis would be impacted by that. Either way, Poti isn’t going to be an active member of the Caps roster, so they may have/could have had a discussion about whether he’d accept assignment, whether he’d prefer to be on LTIR, etc.
I’m not saying the team pushed for “not cleared,” necessarily. They probably wanted him to be cleared, but they weren’t going to clear him without some sort of benefit: either he’s actually good enough to play (which may not even be a benefit, given the cap situation), or they could assign him.
Obviously, this is all speculation.
Where I’m getting stuck is that if they thought he was legitimately fit enough to be cleared, even if Poti himself didn’t think so, why not push for a doctor’s confirmation one way or the other? And if it’s legit and Poti’s doctors disagree, it gets handled however it gets handled.
they weren’t going to clear him without some sort of benefit: either he’s actually good enough to play (which may not even be a benefit, given the cap situation), or they could assign him.
As it stands now, the team’s in pretty much the worst possible scenario. Where’s their benefit? Are they that scared of clearing him, cutting him, and having him throw a shitfit that would be dealt with “under the table and out of public view”?
My point being Poti has to be legitimately unable to perform right now. And since he is, there’s really only one option – LTIR.
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I wouldn’t risk clearing him and assigning him without the player being on board. Even the threat of a public squabble would keep me from trying to strong-arm a guy. So I assume any conversation about whether he’d accept assignment would have already taken place, and if he said “no” then you basically have to LTIR him. I wouldn’t say “oh yeah, what can you do about it?” That’s the way you make what would be an under the table discussion become a public matter, and draw cap-circumvention attention from the NHL and NHLPA.
Obviously, this is all speculation.
Where’s the strong-arming? If a doctor legitimately (i.e. independently) clears him, the team is justified in making the subsequent roster move, no?
I just don’t see why Poti should have any say in whether or not he’d accept the assignment, assuming the legit physical evaluation. Who fucking cares? Did Wade Redden? If Poti wanted a say in it, he should’ve negotiated a NMC, no?
And I don’t think any stink ever happens. The PA is weaker than Tomas Fleischmann along the boards in an exhibition game, and the League is full of wink-wink nudge-nudge good ol’ boys who look the other way and expect the same in return.
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I just think “legitimate” and “independent” doesn’t mean “not debatable.” Medical diagnoses just aren’t as objective as a lot of people seem to believe they are. I could see the Caps “independently and legitimately” clearing him, but still facing a ton of opposition when they try to assign a player.
For instance, I’m hearing that players frequently file grievances because they don’t want to be sent to the AHL. They don’t complain when they are taken out of the lineup, but when the team tries to demote the player then you have an issue.
I think the medical history around Poti’s groin makes it distinguishable from the Redden incident.
And, yeah, Poti should have negotiated a NMC, seeing as he was already leaving money on the table.
You may be right about the PA, but maybe Gary Boy tries to make a statement about circumvention (or maybe not, given the new CBA is coming up and they can just handle it then).
Obviously, this is all speculation.
I could see the Caps "independently and legitimately" clearing him, but still facing a ton of opposition when they try to assign a player.
Sure. That’s possible. And I don’t disagree that it’s not black and white. All I’m saying is that if the Caps have a good faith belief that he’s “clear,” any controversy doesn’t reflect badly on them. My belief is that the Caps couldn’t, in good faith, believe that he’s clearable right now, and so he wasn’t.
And Gary’s going to get on one of his bosses about cap circumvention? That’s rich…
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It comes down to this for me: Sending Poti to Hershey sends the clear signal that you think he ain’t going to get any better (or at least, not this year). Putting him on LTIR sends the signal that this is a useful player with an injury that is going to get better.
I think there are good reasons in favor of either approach. But I can also see putting him on LTIR for now, and putting this decision off a bit. Because once you send him through waivers, that’s essentially irreversible. The team’s not going to risk putting him through reentry waivers. LTIR is the conservative approach.
And I do think the team has a fair amount of control over this. The doctor can analyze Poti and tell the team what state he’s in, but at the grey areas the question of whether that physical state is acceptable for playing hockey is a hockey decision, not a medical decision. If someone has post-concussion syndrome, then nobody ought to be letting him on the ice. But what about a broken thumb? Or a sore knee that needs icing? Players play through injuries all the time.
As F&B says, it doesn’t seem as though it’s literally true that Poti cannot play hockey. It’s just that he’s not physically at a point where he can help an NHL team. If it’s going to be a permanent condition, and he’s at the point where trying isn’t going to do him any more harm, then yes, a doctor might “clear him to play” so he can try to continue his hockey career at whatever level is appropriate for his diminished skills.
Which brings me back to the first point — as a team, when do you say “that’s it, there isn’t going to be any more improvement, and Tom, your NHL career seems to be over.” The decision to put Poti on LTIR suggests that the team isn’t ready to take that step yet. The quotes from McPhee suggest that they aren’t too far away.
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by Gould Old Days on Sep 20, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
When they asked GMGM about acquiring Hamrlik, he said they needed to because they had “lost” Tom Poti.
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by Backeez Got Back on Sep 20, 2011 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I love his support towards Semin and justified it with stats.
It could be “Defend Semin With Stats Day.” Stay tuned….
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My mood goes south whenever I start crunching numbers, So I’ll contribute this as my defense of #28.
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I had been thinking about the whole Bradley/Semin thing and figure it’s obvious their brains are wired differently. I’ve been reading about Brain Types. Semin is an introvert, i.e. a Back Brain. Bradley is an extrovert, a front brain. Plus, Semin is probably an “inanimate”; i.,e. a thinker as opposed to a feeling. I would guess Bradley to be more of an “animate” or feeler. An introverted thinker would probably come across as caring less than an extroverted feeler, with the latter wondering about the former.
Rocking the Red for teams on the banks of the Potomac and at the Gateway Arch and Singing the Blues about Hockey.
Nice big above-the-fold Ovi photo on the front page of the Post today.
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by boutros23 on Sep 20, 2011 7:08 AM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
Haven’t brough in my dead-tree yet, but you can see the layout online. Nice.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/todays_paper?dt=2011-09-20&bk=A&pg=1
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The A1 shot is a cropped version of one of their gallery pictures. What you don’t see is Mike Green getting snowed by Ovi. It ties nicely with what was going on yesterday at practice (as told by Aliceanna in yesterday’s clips)
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Capitals. Above the fold. On A1. In September. Certainly brightened up my rainy day!
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by RedBirdie on Sep 20, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions 12 recs
Unbelievable. I was noting on twitter last night that it took four years from his draft for Ovi to make his first appearance on A1 (with his four trophies). Now it’s almost commonplace.
Another reason to wish more people read the actual paper these days …
Today’s front page is a testament to many years of hard work on your part!
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by RedBirdie on Sep 20, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
May they not remain unknown legends
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Sep 20, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Suggestion for BB for intermission pep talk if the team’s losing:
“If the Gods are fucking you, you find a way to fuck them back. It’s Baltimore, gentlemen; the Gods will not save you.”
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by J.P. on Sep 20, 2011 7:29 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
"If the Gods are fucking you, you find a way to fuck them back. It’s Baltimore, gentlemen hon; the Gods will not save you."
....when the truth is if they knew anything about the game, they'd be in it.
--GMGM
“If the Gods are fucking you, you find a way to fuck them back. It’s Baltimore Bawlmer, gentlemen hon; the Gods will not save you.”
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The 2011-12 Caps: coming soon (though not soon enough) to a TV near you.
Considering that CSN has spent months pushing it’s own outreach to Charm City (CSNBaltimore), and that Comcast is now heavily invested in the NHL and it’s success, you’d think they would send a crew up there to broadcast tonight’s game.
But instead they’re showing a replay of a college football game in which the “local” school (UVA) lost. Yeah, that should get some ratings.
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There is an Internet radio feed for tonight's game.
Steve Whyno said on Twitter that the audio feed would be on 1370 AM locally in Baltimore. That station is available on the Internet at tunein.com, and there’s also an iPhone app if you are mobile.
Just thought you’d like to know. It’s not video, but I’d guess Walton’s calling it and I’m excited to hear his first call of a Caps game.
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by MoMoMojo on Sep 20, 2011 7:50 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions 2 recs
And Walton just confirmed it will be on the Caps website as well.
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Excellent.
Thanks for that. I find that the Caps website can be a little slow, so here’s the link for AM 1370 on TuneIn in case anyone wants it:
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Holy crap
Today’s post says “game day”
by Brainumbc on Sep 20, 2011 8:26 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Kermit is excited. are you?
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by RedBirdie on Sep 20, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
It’s time to play the music…
It’s time to light the lights…
Winnipeg? Winnipeg??? Oy! (And now it's official...)
by MikeL-Pivonka on Sep 20, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey! J.P. What day is today?
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Game day?
Or did I fuck something up?
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OT Thread header. Some of us are wondering what happened to Tuesday and whether we won the game in Baltimore.
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I caught the last 40 minutes of Hockey Diaries on XM last night driving home. If you haven’t listened, I highly recommend it. For me, the program started in about mid-November.
I thought Hendricks gave the best performance. He talked about why and when he fights. He talked about telling his dad about the two-year contract. Apparently, when he hadn’t told his dad about the negotiations and, when he called his dad to tell him he signed, his dad said, “I’m busy. Can I call you back.”
The best part was an interview with Matt Hendricks’ wife during game four of the Rangers’ series. She was talking during the game and precisely during the point when Chimera scored. You could hear all the cheering in the background. She said the texts went from “What the Fuck” to “Wahoo” instantaneously.
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It was great and so well done. There’s a great story about Hendy on the bus after the March Tampa game. I won’t give it away, but what makes it even more great is the way they intertwine three (or four?) different people’s version of the story at the same time. Such fantastic editing by Chris and Gemma.
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I believe this was that night...
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by Gould Old Days on Sep 20, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Yeah, it was the March 7th game in Tampa.
But Hendy does give a little detail of what sort of stuff he chirps at the opposition during games (not too much detail – the FCC would object).
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It was actually Feb. 4 (I only remember because it was my last road trip). Vogs’ recap covers Hendy’s contributions nicely: http://capitals.nhl.com/club/recap.htm?id=2010020779
by NateEwell on Sep 20, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Aww yeah, fact checka in da house!
Get your shit together people…
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That’s what pre-season is for, to brush off the dust and get back into the proper Rink mode.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 20, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
The Caps’ dynamic defensive duo of Karl Alzner and John Carlson effectively shut down Stamkos and partner in crime Martin St. Louis (tied for fourth in the league’s scoring race at night’s outset) on the night. Stamkos finished at minus-2 with just one shot on goal in 20:48 of ice time and was charged with three giveaways, more than anyone on either side. St. Louis managed two shots and was minus-1 one in his 20:16 of work.
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Alzner played more than 42 ES minutes (and 39+ ES minutes against St. Loo) last year and the Bolts scored… not once.
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by capsyoungguns on Sep 20, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
any way to fast forward that player that I am missing? I left off midway and now want to go back without listening again.
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That was fantastic editing. Although I gotta say I loved the bit about Holtby and the untied skatelaces.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 20, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m shocked that Hendy’s pregame nickname ritual he talks about didn’t make it into 24/7. Sounded hilarious.
Agreed. The part about where he had bad luck because he didn’t say that Schultz (the giraffe) was going to the zoo? Amazing how he remembers this stuff.
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I tweeted it last night, but if I was going tonight, I’d rock this sweater:
Though I’d be tempted to wear this:
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and not this one?
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That’s a nice one. One of these days, I’ll have to pick up a Jacks sweater.
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Here you go. $399 on eBay. Maryland State Colors (that look like Penguin colors.)
Worn by by Cliff Abrecht in the 1987-1988 season
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The Skipjacks were the Pens’ farm team at one point too, I think…
Winnipeg? Winnipeg??? Oy! (And now it's official...)
by MikeL-Pivonka on Sep 20, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Jesus… more than 60 links in today’s Clips (not including players names).
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Awesome, but you got the rec from me just for “Capitals Game Day”
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by Gould Old Days on Sep 20, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I dig this quote Vogs posted from Knuble:
“I have played in Baltimore, against the Baltimore Bandits when I was with the Adirondack Red Wings,” recalls Knuble. “I played a couple of games there; one or two. I remember it needed work then. We got dressed in like a carriage house. It was the stables, it had hay all around and the tack they need for the horses. It was the spring of 1896 when I played there last.”
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by Gould Old Days on Sep 20, 2011 9:30 AM EDT reply actions 10 recs
“So I tied an onion to my belt. Which was the style at the time.”
That'll make your weagle wink!
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by boutros23 on Sep 20, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Aw, the Bandits were the first hockey game I ever saw!
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by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 20, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Wasn’t 1896 like the third year of Chris Chelios’ career?
Winnipeg? Winnipeg??? Oy! (And now it's official...)
by MikeL-Pivonka on Sep 20, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
no, that was 1096.
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little known fact, 1066 Battle of Hastings, Chelios’ first game as a Pro.
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How’d Lidstrom do in that game?
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by Alz in the family on Sep 20, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Tonight’s rosters, via Preds on the Glass
http://www.predsontheglass.com/2011/09/rosters-set-for-preds-caps-in-baltimore.html
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Odd – they’ve got 90 and 27 listed as Capitals/Hershey. Is that right? I don’t seem to have any memory of either playing in Hershey last year.
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Mackan never played in Hershey, and Alzner spent the whole season here.
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He (Jojo) played one or two games for Hershey against the Charlotte Checkers last year after his injury, before returning to the Caps line up. No idea why Karl’s listed though.
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and this is the “travel roster” for the Caps, but no way all these guys play.
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Thinking about GameCenter Live
I’m considering splurging on GCL this year. For those of you who have it, what do you think?
I live in D.C. so Caps games are obviously blacked out, but I’ve got CSN/Versus, so I’d be using GCL to watch random other games.
I’m also going to be living with my parents in San Diego for a month, so there’s a month’s worth of Caps games to catch from California. Once I leave the East Coast and my computer is outside the D.C. market, will GCL let me watch Caps games? Or does it permanently register wherever I signed up for it?
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I really like GCL, and I’m going to have it instead of Center Ice for a couple of reasons.
1) The resolution is better than SD TV; GCL actually gets most (if not all) the games in high-enough definition that it’s an improvement over Center Ice;
2) The games (even the blacked-out games) are archived and available 48 hours after they occur, which obviates the need to waste DVR space on a game unless I immediately plan to watch it;
3) GCL is available on a wide variety of devices such as the Roku, which makes it almost as convenient as Center Ice.
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Ah, thanks for the input. And do you perchance know the answer to my last question? If I sign up for GCL in D.C. but then take my laptop to the West Coast, can I watch Caps games on it while I’m there?
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by Jake Shapiro on Sep 20, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
You can – it doesn’t register to a specific IP as far as I know.
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But wouldn’t the blackout be enforced based on the subscriber’s address?
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by Gould Old Days on Sep 20, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think so – I watched a Caps/Sabres game on my laptop in a hotel on Long Island.
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Sounds good enough for me. GCL it is, then! I’m just afraid the access to every game will mean I never get anything done anymore.
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by Jake Shapiro on Sep 20, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
But I think it’s limited to an IP address from inside the United States, right?
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I believe it’s U.S. or Canada.
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Yeah. I lived in Denmark for 6 months, and I couldn’t get GCL there. I had to use ESPN America.
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by Jake Shapiro on Sep 20, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Additional questions
I’m sick of the SD and inconstant coverage from Center Ice (side note: Firefox really wants that to be Centre). So, I was considering GCL for this year.
CI usually does a free preview to start the season, does anyone know if GCL does the same? I want to see how it looks on my TV before I commit to the money. (Aww, who am I kidding I’ll get it anyway, but I’m still curious.) Anyone watch GCL on their TV or do you typically use your laptop? I can get a roku, but I would prefer to run an HDMI cable from my desktop to the TV if the quality is acceptable.
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I don’t know if there’ll be a free trial, but last season on the NHL website you could click “watch now” and it would let you stream GCL for about 5-10 minutes for free before asking you to pony up. It would only let you do it a couple times a day, but I definitely spent a while where every day I’d catch 5-10 minutes of a few games on GCL!
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by Jake Shapiro on Sep 20, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I replied below as well, but the quality is great for me, HDMI to a 42" LCD.
Don’t know if they have a free preview or not.
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by PaintDrinkingPete on Sep 20, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I have had GCL for almost a year and love it except the fact that if the game is on locally, either on cable or broadcast, the game is blocked out. I watch it on a 19 inch monitor and think the quality is good. Of course, the classic games don’t look quite as good, but that is to be expected.
Enjoy!
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much cheaper (12 months for $100), allows instant playback (so you don’t have to wait until the game’s over), and quality feeds
Sorry I’m a few hours behind here, but I’ve been a GCL subscriber for a few years now…
First of all, if you have a decent Internet connection, the stream is great. I have a small media center PC hooked up to my TV via HDMI, and when I stream the games they are in near-HD quality. Definitely better than the SD-only feeds my cable provider has for their NHL package. Granted, if your home Internet isn’t very fast, you may not get as quality a feed, naturally.
For many games, you are also able to pick which feed you want to watch, which is nice if there are particular team’s broadcasters that you don’t really care for.
I have traveled a few times, and the whole “will my home team still be blacked out if I’m at home?” question is a bit hit or miss. Usually, as long as I’m “far away” from DC, the Caps games are available, but there have been a few times I’ve been in western MD and WV (Pen’s local market) and the game was still blacked out…but other times I’ve been in that exact same location and been able to get the games just fine. Strange. May just depend on what ISP I’m connected to? I’d be willing to bet San Diego would not be a problem.
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by PaintDrinkingPete on Sep 20, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks!
It’d be nifty to see an NHL television blackout map, to see where team markets are according to TV stations.
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by Jake Shapiro on Sep 20, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting...
Funny that NHL.com has Nashville beating the Florida 5-3 last night, and Florida beating Nashville 4-3.
Speaking of GCL and now scores, I noticed the score isn’t always accurate in GCL. Even the lovely Winter Classic is listed incorrectly. Funny that.
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OK, we’ve been at this for almost a half hour, which means the Toronto Maple Leafs platinum season ticket holders have finally started arriving. If anyone wants to pelt them with empty water bottles, be my guest. No batteries, Flyers fans! Leave that to the Canucks fans… we’ll just blame the NHL for anything they do.
Great lines.
Obviously, this is all speculation.
The NHL made some unexpected headlines over the weekend, thanks to a bizarre story out of Detroit. After years of fans celebrating postseason Red Wing goals by tossing an octopus onto the ice, the league has apparently pushed for a crackdown that will see fans fined and ejected for participating in the tradition.
The news was met with instant and near-unanimous scorn by hockey fans, as the move apparently makes the NHL one of the few businesses in the world that discourages customers from hurling animal carcasses at its employees.
I don’t know if he’ll ever top that line as far as I am concerned.
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Lines
I don’t know if anyone picked this up already:
8-90-22
21-19-28
49-50-56
17-83-76
27-52
68-62
46-41
Goalies are Neuvirth and Anderson per Steve Whyno.
Can someone help me on the numbers? I know some of them, but not all.
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68’s Jagr.
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by J.P. on Sep 20, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice try.
I’m not that stupid, JP.
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FORWARDS
Ovechkin-Johansson-Knuble
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Galiev-Eakin-Bourque
King-Beagle-Mitchell
DEFENSE
Alzner-Green
McNeill-Collins
Wellar-Flemming
GOALIES
Neuvirth
Anderson
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3rd Line is kind of Smurf-y, aint it? Wonder why Bourque isnt listed on the Caps’ Roster…
by S h a g g y on Sep 20, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Galiev is actually 6’1".
It will be interested to see how Bourque performs after a year bouncing around Europe.
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Is that the same Bourque we lost on waivers some time ago?
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by BetterOffWith28 on Sep 20, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Yup. Formally known around here as Chris Smith.
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Or “formerly” (though we do tend to be a little formal around here)
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Mister Chris Smith ?
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I think he’s still in Europe at a funeral for someone who was on Lokomotiv.
My mind is all twisted like a peanut.
Anybody have an updated list of jersey number, capitls.nhl.com doesnt have a complete list.
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by BetterOffWith28 on Sep 20, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
reply fail…. anyways, I wonder why none of the new guys are playing?
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by BetterOffWith28 on Sep 20, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe they’re still learning the systems?? It does kinda surprise me that they didn’t give Ward a chance to play against his old team in the preseason; I’m sure he’ll play them Nov 15.
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the Caps sold the game to Baltimore on having their “name” guys show up. So a certain number of spots are taken up by the Ovies and Knubles. Caps also want to get some of the young’uns like Galiev a game or two in before they have to send him back to St. John’s.
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you gonna guarantee that postseason match-up? :)
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by RedBirdie on Sep 20, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
After what we all experienced in the 1980s and 1990s, I think if the Caps took on a David Poile team in the SCF, the world would end
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by Gould Old Days on Sep 20, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Nashville's lines
from morning skate:
Craig Smith – Cal O’Reilly – Martin Erat [A]
Colin Wilson – Chris Mueller – Niclas Bergfors
Gabriel Bourque – Kyle Wilson – Ryan Thang
Zack Stortini – Jani Lajunen – Taylor Beck
Shea Weber ( C ) – Ryan Suter [A]
Teemu Laakso – Mattias Ekholm
Ryan Ellis – Tyler Sloan
Lemme quote the late, great Colonel Sanders. He said "I'm too drunk to taste this chicken."
by Chris Burton on Sep 20, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey Chris, do you see any chance for Kyle Wilson making the lineup in Nashville? I was a big supporter of him back in Hershey and thought he played well for Columbus last year.
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Good question. I don’t think he makes the team out of camp, because the top 12 spots are full:
Fisher, Legwand, Erat, Hornqvist, Kostitsyn, C. Wilson, O’Reilly, Tootoo, Bergfors, Smithson, Geoffrion, and Spaling.
After that Craig Smith and Matt Halischuk will probably alternate between the 13th forward and emergency call-up, so Kyle will either end up an injury replacement or leading the line, as it were, in Milwaukee, I’d guess.
Lemme quote the late, great Colonel Sanders. He said "I'm too drunk to taste this chicken."
by Chris Burton on Sep 20, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I would really love it if Eakin or Galiev completely torched Sloan tonight.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
by Doncosmic on Sep 20, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dear Shea,
So nice to make your acquaintance again in the preseason; that tilt last year at the Phone Booth was awesome. Hey, do me a favor this year fella, and keep your fucking wrist slashes after the whistle in your duffle bag, you cheap-shotting prairie bitch.
Signed,
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PS: You’re way overpaid.
by bigonetimer on Sep 20, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
There's a video Jumbotron but we can't get no stinkin video feed???
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New content on the ol’ front page…
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Players on ice conditions: “it’s the same for both teams.” Others called it “a little rough.” Looked bad to us. #Caps
So they should feel right at home….
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“It’s the same for both teams” is something you say about games where the outcome actually matters. If “it’s the same for both teams” and shitty in an exhibition game, that’s not good.
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Of all the articles today, the one that blew me away was the one on Chimera and his god-awful shooting percentage. As much as I love the guy (one of my favorite CAPS), how can a seasoned professional be such a bad shooter….especially one who has so many good opportunities? Are there any ex-coaches out there who can explain why he can’t learn to shoot better? I had the same question when reading about Brooks’ off season conditioning program. All they talked about was how hard he skated and what good shape he is in. His problem (after last year’s serious tail-off in points), however, as with Chimera seems to be scoring/shooting. Can’t that be taught? And shouldn’t those guys be working on it?
Speaking of Chimera – I believe Hendricks makes a comment in Hockey Diaries about how Chimera thinks he (Chimera) has good hands.
I laughed out loud.
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You can teach it to an extent, but everyone’s ability has limits. Picking corners when you have pucks lined up on the hash marks is easy. Picking a corner on a cross-ice one timer with a speedy NHL defenseman pressuring you is a skill not every guy, even at the NHL level can achieve.
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by iwearstripes on Sep 20, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Make what you will of it, from TEB at CI:
On a personal note, a lot of folks have been asking why I’ve been writing about the Caps so much the past month or so. Well, my role at The Post has changed a little bit. I’m still the Hoyas beat writer (I’m not giving up that trip to Maui for anything), but I will be doing a LOT more Caps this season. Katie is the beat writer and will provide daily coverage of the team; I’ll blog/write as frequently as my schedule allows and hope to weigh in once a week with an On Hockey column.
So, Caps > NASCAR/MMA?
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I still can’t believe CSN isn’t broadcasting the game tonight.
While it is “just a preseason game”, it is also an event the Caps have been promoting for months, and I would think would want to create as much buzz as possible about. Add to the fact that the Caps ratings have been nothing but awesome for the past few seasons, there is no basketball, and CSN has no MLB team to broadcast, and it just seems like a no-brainer to me. I know I’d be watching tonight if it were on!
I hate hearing excuses about poor ratings for exhibition games, when that same network just broadcast all 4 redskins pre-season games (and yes, I do realize that NFL, even preseason NFL, is a big ratings draw — I just think the Caps would get watched as well right now, at least locally), and don’t even try to see how a preseason Caps game would do.
Granted, I’m sure the Caps only have limited control over what CSN chooses to air, but could they not provide at least on online stream for us yearning to watch hockey…ANY HOCKEY!
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by PaintDrinkingPete on Sep 20, 2011 2:29 PM EDT reply actions
I’m guessing the Caps don’t actually have a broadcast crew and it’s all CSN people. We’ll have to wait for MoSN.
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I’m sure they don’t…but even a simulcast of the jumbotron over John Walton would be fine with me over nothing.
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by PaintDrinkingPete on Sep 20, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
they love Flyers hockey. The Caps, not so much.
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Forwards Samuel Henley, Luke Lockhart and Garrett Ross, along with defenseman James Oligny were returned to their junior teams.
Defenseman Tyler Ludwig and forward Taylor Stefishen, whose rights the Capitals traded a conditional seventh-round pick to Nashville for earlier in the offseason, were also cut.
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Fingers crossed they make it out of there in one piece
Close up of ice at 1st Mariner Arena (from Sky again):
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I would have thought they (the Caps) would have at least made sure that FM could produce a “safe” sheet of ice….
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by PaintDrinkingPete on Sep 20, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
that’s just unacceptably awful.
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Did anyone else notice that the Capitals Insider now says by Katie Carrera and Tarik El-Bashir?
Is he back? When did this happen?
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He commented on it in a post today. Katie is still the beat writer, but TEB will be posting at least weekly, and will continue to write about the Caps while covering G-Town bball.
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by iwearstripes on Sep 20, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
he was added yesterday. TEB gets to cover the caps as the Hoya schedule allows. The scoop is here.
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Of course, if he’d read just a few posts up, he’d already have seen that…..
;)
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comment first, read second! That is the way of the Rink.
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Who reads? I just post.
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clearly :)
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