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A Care Bear that doesn’t care? That doesn’t make much sense.

That'll make your weagle wink!
The pants that bind us should be left behind us.

by boutros23 on Aug 18, 2011 7:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Dare to Care Bear?

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Aug 18, 2011 7:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gary Bettman gives not a fuck?

by DonCaps819 on Aug 18, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

(I’ve got plenty of these…)

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by J.P. on Aug 18, 2011 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rec’d Swanson.

"My favorite fan base in D.C. Is United's. Period. The end." - Steinberg

by Bald Pollack on Aug 18, 2011 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

These last two… simply great.

That'll make your weagle wink!
The pants that bind us should be left behind us.

by boutros23 on Aug 18, 2011 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Love the honey badger. He so bad-ass

Ew, is that a snake?

by Brainumbc on Aug 18, 2011 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Watch out says that bird

I'll never put on a life jacket again

by NJNJ on Aug 18, 2011 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Looks more like a tape worm.

(Yes, I know about the avatar hounding - just pretend mine is invisible.)

by oldemystix on Aug 18, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I auto-rec Laichitor comments. I’m his only sycophant.

Obviously, this is all speculation.

by Rob Parker on Aug 18, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know how much you look up to me, little guy.

I don't care how many rec's I make. I just hope someone lets me post comments about hockey next season.

by Laich It Or Lump It on Aug 18, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Only because you are taller.

Obviously, this is all speculation.

by Rob Parker on Aug 18, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Size Queen.

I don't care how many rec's I make. I just hope someone lets me post comments about hockey next season.

by Laich It Or Lump It on Aug 18, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Is that a shirt? If so, I want one.

He’s running in slow motion again!

"Hockey is my life, wine is my passion." -- Igor Larionov

by Scott in Shaw on Aug 18, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just….wow. Will they all be green?

Terrifically juvenile.

by stemmer on Aug 18, 2011 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think we went of the OT deep end this morning :)

by Brainumbc on Aug 18, 2011 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s all on the topic of Alex Semin not caring… more or less.

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by J.P. on Aug 18, 2011 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

this is OT but related to your OT. My youngest daughter insists on being called Care Bear and I think about the Caps every time she says “no daddy call me CARE BEAR!”

by Beakers Lab on Aug 18, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, and no one cares…

Winnipeg? Winnipeg??? Oy! (And now it's official...)

by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 18, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s St. Freakin’ Patrick’s Day. Semin go bragh!

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Aug 18, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Perfect. My new favorite.

(Yes, I know about the avatar hounding - just pretend mine is invisible.)

by oldemystix on Aug 18, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

All you need is the Chemistry Cat that doesn’t cARe.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 18, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

And the wanking gif.

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by oldemystix on Aug 18, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some guys just like to shoot alot and not care...

Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.

by Davethecapsfan on Aug 18, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Semin, Bruce, or GmGM take your pick

Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."

Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.

by breaklance on Aug 18, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

With Bradley’s salacious interview a hit among the blogosphere, what do you think the PhoneRings/60 for Eric Fehr or Boyd Gordon have been in the last 24hrs?

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by NGreenberg on Aug 18, 2011 7:12 AM EDT reply actions  

I’ve been waiting all summer for it from Arnott and/or Hannan – figured that his former long-time teammates would be more reluctant to talk, and Arnie certainly isn’t shy.

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by J.P. on Aug 18, 2011 7:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Surprised you didn’t include Vog’s column in the first bullet, what with this comment he included (and felt the need to give it it’s own paragraph):

Matt Bradley and Boyd Gordon were both terrific role players and solid room guys. But between them, they had just one NHL season with as many as 10 goals in their 17 combined NHL campaigns.

"I remembered when he said that and I kind of looked at him during the warm up and told myself that I got to shut these guys out tonight." - Michal Neuvirth, 02.06.11.

by bagace on Aug 18, 2011 7:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Must’ve missed it – you know I link to everything Vogs writes.

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by J.P. on Aug 18, 2011 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, ha. Nevermind.

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by J.P. on Aug 18, 2011 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I find this Reid mea culpa thing funny. I love how Strasburg has the potential to inspire, but Ovechkin loses points for playoff failure. So, SS should remain on the sidelines, milk this potential thing, and never spoil it with a couple of Nats 4th place division finishes if he wants to keep his star at its apex.

Terrifically juvenile.

by stemmer on Aug 18, 2011 7:53 AM EDT reply actions  

After his performance last night, he may just do that.

"I remembered when he said that and I kind of looked at him during the warm up and told myself that I got to shut these guys out tonight." - Michal Neuvirth, 02.06.11.

by bagace on Aug 18, 2011 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

not likely, his rehab is on schedule, it’s now 99% likely he will be just as good as he was pre surgery.

Aim for the head baby Jesus

by Doncosmic on Aug 18, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry – the article is a bunch of additional drivel, although a bit more candid drivel than we get from Mike Wise. For those that haven’t read the Reid article:

  • A lot of people disagreed with me that Strasburg is the region’s number one star. ALOT of people. Like a real lot.
  • Fair enough, but I don’t really get hockey.
  • I’m not backing off my pick of Strasburg, because baseball is king in every city everywhere.
  • Besides, Ovechkin hasn’t won a thing.
  • Oh yeah, and John Wall could be big too.

My new wish for the Post: Fire all columnists except Tom Boswell and pay him to write seven days a week. Even his hockey columns are quite insightful and good.

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by STLSpidey on Aug 18, 2011 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, and John Wall could be big too.

Also, some Redskin I haven’t identified yet.

by Whalers06 on Aug 18, 2011 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t leave out that he includes race in there too – “hockey players didn’t look like me.”

Terrifically juvenile.

by stemmer on Aug 18, 2011 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t believe he went there. That line made me as mad as anything he’s written in these past two … Articles? Columns? Blog posts? Whatever they are. His columns(?) based on his assertion, should have been titled: “Who COULD be Washington’s No. 1 sports star,” since it’s replete with what Strasburg, Wall, and whatever Redskin COULD do.

Mm-hmm. And there's a penalty for that?

by Prodigal_Son on Aug 18, 2011 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

It seemed to me that he meant that, as a kid, one reason he didn’t get into hockey because he didn’t identify with the players—they didn’t look like him in general. Far fewer non-white players in hockey (esp in the 80s/90s) than in baseball.

I didn’t take this as a reason for his opinion of Ovechkin.

by kingbonehead on Aug 18, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

sorry

wish I read further down to see JPs comment saying the same thing and saved myself 45 seconds of typing.

by kingbonehead on Aug 18, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the first thing I thought of was, “No pro athlete looks like me. They’re young and in shape.”

Terrifically juvenile.

by stemmer on Aug 18, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

See Emily.

See Emily hoist Reid on his own petard, high into the air.

by Knee high to a duck on Aug 18, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

wait, in-season sort-of out-of-shape Ovie, or summer I’ve-completely-let-myself-go-hey-check-out-by-beer-gut Ovie?

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by RedBirdie on Aug 18, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

In his defense, I think he’s saying that he’s a baseball guy now because, growing up, he could more easily identify with baseball players because more of them looked like him. As a result of that identification and attachment, he’s a baseball fan – and thus a Strasburg fan – now, as opposed to being a hockey guy. I don’t see a contradiction here.

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by J.P. on Aug 18, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the “they look like me” argument is inherently offensive and a ridiculously slippery slope with a one-way blade.

Obviously, this is all speculation.

by Rob Parker on Aug 18, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

particularly when Straburg looks like Reid as much as Ovechkin looks like Reid.

Caps fans aren’t on the ledge; they’ve already jumped, and are merely trying to drag others into a mournful descent with them..--Stienz

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by RedBirdie on Aug 18, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t disagree, I’m just noting that there’s no rhetorical hypocrisy that I see in his statements.

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by J.P. on Aug 18, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s a fair point given the demographic change in the MLB.

Obviously, this is all speculation.

by Rob Parker on Aug 18, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

By that logic I should be a sumo wrestling fan. So long everyone – does SBN have a sumo blog?

Terrifically juvenile.

by stemmer on Aug 18, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

If you want to write one, I know some people…

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by J.P. on Aug 18, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does Stephen Strasburg look like Jason Reid?

Winner. Winner. Chicken Dinner.

by b.orr4 on Aug 18, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ahh… thoughts of Misty and Kerri…

What… oh yeah, Semin cares…

nevermind…

Winnipeg? Winnipeg??? Oy! (And now it's official...)

by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 18, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Neither do baseball players these days.

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by J.P. on Aug 18, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Damn good thing he wasn’t a white guy saying that about John Wall.

Obviously, this is all speculation.

by Rob Parker on Aug 18, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You mean if a white columnist said he’s a hockey fan now because, growing up, the guys in the NBA didn’t look like him so he didn’t watch? Yeah, that’d be an interesting shitstorm.

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by J.P. on Aug 18, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reid saying he didn’t follow hockey seems less like a racial cop-out and more a lack of intellectual curiosity. I’m always amazed by sports writers who say " I never watch hockey, soccer, rugby, etc. because I don’t understand them." Isn’t it your job to educate yourself on all sports that might interest your readers? If I can do it, why can’t they?

by b.orr4 on Aug 18, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I’m not backing off my pick of Strasburg, because baseball is king in every city everywhere.

I didn’t see this in the article. I think the quote you are referring to is:

Even so, I rank Ovechkin behind Strasburg, who could emerge as the single most important athlete in D.C. sports history if his performance matches his talent.

Emphasis mine, but I agree with this statement.

"Shots aren't the important thing. Scoring chances are way more important than shots." - Bruce Boudreau

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by NGreenberg on Aug 18, 2011 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t you also agree that Ovechkin could emerge as the single most important athlete in D.C. sports history if his performance matches his talent?

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by J.P. on Aug 18, 2011 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Aren’t we talking team performance here vs. individual talent?

Terrifically juvenile.

by stemmer on Aug 18, 2011 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe. If Strasburg goes 25-4 every year with a 2.60 ERA and leads the NL in K’s while piling up Cy Youngs… but the team never makes the playoffs, what would the impact on DC be, ultimately?

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by J.P. on Aug 18, 2011 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you buy the common argument that Ovechkin can’t be huge until he wins a Cup, then the impact would be nothing and Strasburg would get traded at the deadline one year to a contender for prospects.

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by STLSpidey on Aug 18, 2011 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

See: Steve Carlton.

Terrifically juvenile.

by stemmer on Aug 18, 2011 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Steve Carlton will show you his 1980 World Series ring…

Winnipeg? Winnipeg??? Oy! (And now it's official...)

by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 18, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Point taken, but hoorah for Strasburg if he gets a ring in his 16th year. Not looking too good right now that he pitches that long.

Terrifically juvenile.

by stemmer on Aug 18, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s still young, with his control and understanding of the game at such a young age, I have a feeling he’ll be around a very long time.

Aim for the head baby Jesus

by Doncosmic on Aug 18, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frank Howard?

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Aug 18, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

No one in this town will ever have as great a nickname as “The Capital Punisher”

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 18, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Interestingly enough, “The Capital Punisher” is one of Jon Sim’s tattoos.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 18, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Oh yes, yes it is.

Winnipeg? Winnipeg??? Oy! (And now it's official...)

by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 18, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course he could.

For all we know, John Beck could end up as the greatest football player in DC history. It could be the Kurt Warner story rewritten in DC.

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by STLSpidey on Aug 18, 2011 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve seen John Beck play and can categorically say that I know he won’t be the greatest football player in DC history.

by Dirk Dangler on Aug 18, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t you also agree that Ovechkin could emerge as the single most important athlete in D.C. sports history if his performance matches his talent?

It would to me, but to the people at large, don’t think so.

I don’t think hockey carries the same gravitas as baseball when it comes to hero worship.

"Shots aren't the important thing. Scoring chances are way more important than shots." - Bruce Boudreau

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by NGreenberg on Aug 18, 2011 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I should prob make a disclaimer here:

I grew up in Queens, NY, just outside of Shea stadium so I saw two championships in my lifetime: 1986 Mets and 1994 NYR. I went to my first hockey and baseball game around the same age (7yo) and loved them both.

Game 6 still brings tears to my eyes when the ball gets by Buckner. When I see Messier raise the Cup I am elated, but don’t have the same feeling of connection, if that makes any sense.

Perhaps that because I was 13 when the Mets won and in my late 20s when Rangers won, but I still don’t get the same feeling.

"Shots aren't the important thing. Scoring chances are way more important than shots." - Bruce Boudreau

See my work on WaPo's Capitals Insider, ESPN Insider and Russian Machine Never Breaks (RMNB) Insider. I also log the Caps scoring chances. The 2010-11 summary spreadsheet is posted on Google Docs.

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by NGreenberg on Aug 18, 2011 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Woops. Mean’t “in my 20s”

"Shots aren't the important thing. Scoring chances are way more important than shots." - Bruce Boudreau

See my work on WaPo's Capitals Insider, ESPN Insider and Russian Machine Never Breaks (RMNB) Insider. I also log the Caps scoring chances. The 2010-11 summary spreadsheet is posted on Google Docs.

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by NGreenberg on Aug 18, 2011 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

this got a snort and a rec from me.

by Beakers Lab on Aug 18, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

awesome

"Shots aren't the important thing. Scoring chances are way more important than shots." - Bruce Boudreau

See my work on WaPo's Capitals Insider, ESPN Insider and Russian Machine Never Breaks (RMNB) Insider. I also log the Caps scoring chances. The 2010-11 summary spreadsheet is posted on Google Docs.

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by NGreenberg on Aug 18, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t think we could top having a Habs fan as a regular, but a Rags fan? Astounding cognitive dissonance.

Obviously, this is all speculation.

by Rob Parker on Aug 18, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s a recovering Rags fan… he needs support, not belittling.

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by J.P. on Aug 18, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Think of this comment as a collective rec for everything you’ve done this morning. You’re Reaganing.

"My favorite fan base in D.C. Is United's. Period. The end." - Steinberg

by Bald Pollack on Aug 18, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed… he’s trickling down on everyone.

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by J.P. on Aug 18, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Toll?…do we keep stats on tolls?

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Aug 18, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or should we say, FORMER Rags fan? Neil isn’t the only former New Yorker who’s posted here. There’s also Soulbdrummer who was originally a baseball fan, specifically of the Mets in the 80’s, who became a Caps and Nats fan when he moved to this area.

Rocking the Red for teams on the banks of the Potomac and at the Gateway Arch and Singing the Blues about Hockey.

by CapsFan75 on Aug 18, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahem, please note the screen name.

Terrifically juvenile.

by stemmer on Aug 18, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure he meant Neil.

My mind is all twtisted like a peanut.

by timmyv38 on Aug 18, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Got it, thanks.

Terrifically juvenile.

by stemmer on Aug 18, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Grew up north of Syracuse, went to school at UMD, stayed in the area after, and bought Caps tickets because the concept of being ten minutes from an NHL arena was the greatest thing in the world to me. And I never really had anything against the Caps. The Rangers were never anything in the late 90’s, so Washington was a decent alternative. Certainly better than Philly, Pitt, New Jersey, Buffalo, or Boston.

by Whalers06 on Aug 18, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with the latter part, but I think that, as a generational talent by all accounts, Ovechkin’s “performance match[ing] his talent” would mean perennial MVPs and playoff success. In a town that hasn’t had any success in two decades, that would be transformative. As it would if Strasburg delivers championships.

I’d agree that if both win, say, three titles, Strassy is the bigger star in this town (assuming it’s on his arm that they do it). But I think either one – if his performance matches his talent – would be the biggest star in D.C. sports history.

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by J.P. on Aug 18, 2011 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

The same probably goes for John Wall and Bryce Harper as well.

Aim for the head baby Jesus

by Doncosmic on Aug 18, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

And whoever the next real franchise QB of the Skins is can be on a level even higher then what Strasburg can achieve. DC is a football town first, basketball town 2nd. Hockey and baseball are competing for 3rd right now…either can get hot when the other two sports are sucking, but the second there is any life shown in either of the first two they will rise again.

Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.

by Davethecapsfan on Aug 18, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

And wouldn’t Semin be the single most important athlete in D.C. sports history if his performance matches his talent?

Obviously, this is all speculation.

by Rob Parker on Aug 18, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

Nice.

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by J.P. on Aug 18, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

But, really, this is all silly. If we want to discuss “most important athlete in DC history” it has to be Len Bias. Nobody is going to have that kind of impact.

Obviously, this is all speculation.

by Rob Parker on Aug 18, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed, he altered the national discussion on cocaine.

Aim for the head baby Jesus

by Doncosmic on Aug 18, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

No more than Don Johnson did.

Terrifically juvenile.

by stemmer on Aug 18, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

/signed

Matt Bradley

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by STLSpidey on Aug 18, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

If 28’s performance matched his talent, everybody who writes about sports would have a Terabyte HD dedicated to synonyms for, “Amazing.”

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by Boggles on Aug 18, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

But would they give a Terrorbye?

Obviously, this is all speculation.

by Rob Parker on Aug 18, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

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by Boggles on Aug 18, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

As good as Alex is, and how big of a star he is, Semin just doesn’t have the star potential as Strasburg.

Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."

Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.

by breaklance on Aug 18, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damnit, where’s that Sasha * FABULOUS * pic?

by patred48 on Aug 18, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

FAB-U-LOU!

I assume you’re actually looking for something else?

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by RedBirdie on Aug 18, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Has his performance not matched his talent? He was the NHL’s rookie of the year, two-time MVP, 5 time NHL First All-Star team selection, 4 time All-Star Game selection, and has averaged 50 goals and over 100 points per season. As individual performances go, I’m not sure how much father talent can take you.

If Strasburg goes 25-4 every year with a 2.60 ERA and leads the NL in K’s while piling up Cy Youngs… but the team never makes the playoffs, what would the impact on DC be, ultimately?

This is pretty much what Ovechkin has done since coming to the Caps. He’s been outstanding individually, but that individual excellence hasn’t translated into playoff success.

I am a hockey fan first, and a Caps fan second.

by iwearstripes on Aug 18, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

But the Ovechkin Caps have, for the past 3 season, been en elite team. At least they make the playoffs.

That said, I’d love to see the Nats have a run of success, even if it’s “just” regular season success, like the Caps have. But if it happens, it’ll be done on the backs of Zim and Morse and Storen, not Strasburg and his once-every-fifth-game self.

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by RedBirdie on Aug 18, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

You have to think the 11-12 Caps are, on paper, the most elite version of the Ovechkin Caps we’ve seen yet.

Can we skip September? This season can’t come soon enough.

I am a hockey fan first, and a Caps fan second.

by iwearstripes on Aug 18, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

hey, only 33 days until the first pre-season game! Yes, I’m feeling a wee bit desperate for hockey. So desperate that if I thought there was any way on Earth that I could get out of work for the rookie game, I would.

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by RedBirdie on Aug 18, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am so desperate for hockey that I watched a Lacrosse game that Joe B was doing the play-by-play on, and aftewards I watched an older KHL game.

by _Skullduggery_ on Aug 18, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think they have a bunch of those old KHL games on the ESPN app on the XBox. Been meaning to check them out.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 18, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup, that’s where I found it…

by _Skullduggery_ on Aug 18, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just like one pitcher won’t make the Nats suddenly win the World Series. It helps certainly, but they’re both still team sports.

Now maybe it’s a different debate how much an elite pitcher winning every start in the playoffs for baseball is worth versus having the active leader in points per game in the playoffs on your hockey team.

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by Davethecapsfan on Aug 18, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Without going all #fancystats, let’s just point out that whether a pitcher “wins” his starts is a terrible way to measure how good his performance is.

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by AMusingFool on Aug 18, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

In a very general sense this is true. You really don’t see the elite pitchers in the playoffs win a lot of games they don’t deserve to win though. And when I’m comparing it to Ovie’s playoff performances I’m assuming we’re talking about the possibility of Strasburg realizing his talent to means pitching gems in the postseason. Point being, even if he does that for the Nats, he’s pitching 2 out of 5 games or 2-3 out of 7 at most. Team can lose the series regardless. Just like the Caps can lose whether Ovechkin puts up points or not.

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by Davethecapsfan on Aug 18, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suppose that is true. And to get back to your initial point, one can point out that elite pitchers do make more money than Ovechkin, although I don’t know what the best way of squaring that with the average baseball team spending more on salaries overall than hockey’s cap.

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by AMusingFool on Aug 18, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Percentage wise of total team salary it might be close enough to be a wash. And you might even be able to balance out the fact that while Ovechkin only plays between 35-40% of a hockey game, Strasburg would only pitch every 4th or 5th game (although his effect on each of those games is greater than any other player on the team for the most part).

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by Davethecapsfan on Aug 18, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is why I think it has to be OV— almost singlehandedly, he made the Caps relevant in DC. He became a national figure and made DC give a shit about the Caps, beyond their relatively small historic base— this wasn’t possible in the 25 years before him, even with hall of fame greats like Langway and Gartner. Even bringing in a world class figure like Jagr— at the start, before he became a patent bitter failure— didn’t spike much interest. The Caps are now a sell-out commodity— the very fact this is even a discussion in the Post, broached by someone who doesn’t get anything about it, is testament to the fact it has to be OV.

For 30 years we’ve waited for hockey to be relevant beyond our base here. For people who didn’t grow up with the sport, being a hockey fan here has been like being into polo. It took a once-in-a-century figure to break through that.

by Tommy Williams on Aug 18, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

In DC sports history? Really? Think about the Redskins and Bullets he needs to surpass. He’d have to win a truckload of Cy Youngs and the Nats win a couple of Series for this to even be discussable.

Terrifically juvenile.

by stemmer on Aug 18, 2011 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

As of this moment, who is “the single most important athlete in D.C. sports history”? The Skins won with three different QBs and RBs – hard to say it’s Theismann or Riggo, etc. Is it Wes? Elvin Hayes? Someone that didn’t win like Sonny Jurgenson? I honestly think the case could be made for Rod Langway – if not for him, there’d be no Washington Capitals today. Saving a franchise is pretty damn important, no?

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by J.P. on Aug 18, 2011 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Walter Johnson.

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by bagace on Aug 18, 2011 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The man does have a high school named after him.

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by apk3000 on Aug 18, 2011 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed (out in MoCo). We got Walt Whitman, they got Walter Johnson (and Halpy got Winston Churchill).

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by J.P. on Aug 18, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Walt Whitman High School Rules!!!

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by STLSpidey on Aug 18, 2011 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

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by Goaliemama on Aug 18, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you expanded the notion a bit to coaches, you could make an argument for Joe Gibbs or John Thompson, in terms of turning programs around during their era.

You could cite Darrell Green as beloved, or Sammy Baugh as talented.

You could argue Len Bias, in terms of the impact his death had on drug use among younger athletes.

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by STLSpidey on Aug 18, 2011 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed on those coaches, but that’s not the question (and if it was, you could probably include Pollin and JKCooke as well).

The athletes are are also in the mix, though I don’t think any is at the top.

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by J.P. on Aug 18, 2011 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I get it, but like you, I struggled to answer the question.

As any good politician would do when struggling for an answer, I changed the question to one which I could answer.

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by STLSpidey on Aug 18, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ewing?

Terrifically juvenile.

by stemmer on Aug 18, 2011 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Theismann would be my answer, but I’m not from here. he seemed to become the biggest star, transcending the sport.

Terrifically juvenile.

by stemmer on Aug 18, 2011 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, Riggo was always much more popular here.

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by Doncosmic on Aug 18, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not everywhere, which was my point.

Terrifically juvenile.

by stemmer on Aug 18, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

hell, Daryl Johnston was more popular here than Theismann almost.

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by sydtron on Aug 18, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most important isn’t the same as biggest, or most popular.

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 18, 2011 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right – it’s going to be different to different people, I’d think.

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by J.P. on Aug 18, 2011 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think a lot of people are putting “in my lifetime” into your question. History lesson time:

Walter Johnson was a player, then coach of the Senators. He pitched the year the Senators won their only WS, was a 2 time MVP, owns the record for most shutouts, was one of the original class elected to the Baseball HOF. He put up roots in the DC area after his baseball career ended and went into local politics. Hell, he even has a high school named after him.

If Strasburg can achieve what Johnson did, then he has a chance, though in today’s league, I doubt he’ll stay here that long.

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by bagace on Aug 18, 2011 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sammy Baugh was the greatest player in the world for a long time as well

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by Doncosmic on Aug 18, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t name a single athlete – I’d probably name the Hogs. Skins won 3 Superbowls behind them.

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by timmyv38 on Aug 18, 2011 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like Sonny…no, wait…I like Billy

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by NJNJ on Aug 18, 2011 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s Jurgenson by a landslide

by Goaliemama on Aug 18, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

yea but Dad used to drink with Billy so he was a bit more of a fovorite in our house

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by NJNJ on Aug 18, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I stick with Len Bias, as I said above.

Obviously, this is all speculation.

by Rob Parker on Aug 18, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

For societal impact, infamy, both?

Terrifically juvenile.

by stemmer on Aug 18, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

The former.

Obviously, this is all speculation.

by Rob Parker on Aug 18, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Then how about “Bobby Mitchell?”

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by ThePeerless on Aug 18, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Best story about Bobby Mitchell – when Mr. Marshall made him sing “Dixie” with the rest of the people at some dinner thing. He wasn’t singing, and Marshall looks at him and roars “Bobby Mitchell….SING!”

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 18, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it’s close, but you can make your case. For reference, my case is that the ’80s iteration/ramp up of the War on Drugs is the most wide-reaching policy in the country, with results that touch almost all domestic and foreign policies and costing billions of dollars (maybe trillions).

Obviously, this is all speculation.

by Rob Parker on Aug 18, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great point. The “war on drugs” doesn’t become “The War on Drugs” until Bias’ death.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 18, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Was it Bias’ death, or the introduction of Crack to the inner cities?

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by bagace on Aug 18, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

The death led to a lot of publicity, which drew attention to the crack. Without a high profile athlete dying I think most of white/powerful America would have been fine letting the ghettos kill themselves with crack. Len Bias provided a strong campaign message, and the rest is history.

Obviously, this is all speculation.

by Rob Parker on Aug 18, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

(This probably should head OT pretty soon)

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by J.P. on Aug 18, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t remember such a direct link.

Terrifically juvenile.

by stemmer on Aug 18, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just one thing before I go to OT, Bias’ death in June 86 was the catalyst for the Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1986, which was passed that October, and introduced such things as mandatory minimum sentences. Basically turned drug abuse into something punitive when it really should be treated with therapy and counseling.

/end OT

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 18, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

The term dates back to the early 1970’s.

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by ThePeerless on Aug 18, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know. That’s why I used small letters for the first era and capital letters for the second.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 18, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does Stasburg have A-Rod name recognition potential?

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by oldemystix on Aug 18, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure about that. The Big Train is a hard one to catch.

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by AMusingFool on Aug 18, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really, Reid should have simply quit after the first miserable fail. He only succeeded in making it worse.

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 18, 2011 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not backing off my pick of Strasburg, because baseball is king in every city everywhere.

remind me again how much coverage Jim Thome got the other night? Oh, right, very little. If baseball is king, then the king is rather inconsequential.

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by RedBirdie on Aug 18, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kings have been inconsequential since 1225

Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."

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by breaklance on Aug 18, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

There was a pretty consequential King in the 1960s ;)

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 18, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

??

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by Bald Pollack on Aug 18, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

000

Just one before JP has me murdered for gumming up the Clips thread

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 18, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

and just what physical domain was he king of?

:P

Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."

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by breaklance on Aug 18, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everything. For all time.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 18, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Young ladies nether regions, Vegas, and anywhere with a gold plated toilet.

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by Doncosmic on Aug 18, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frank was the king of Vegas. There was no one before, and no one since. But “The King” certainly has him beat on the golden toilet thing though.

Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."

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by breaklance on Aug 19, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

A King was especially inconsequential in the Caps 2010-2011 edition and promises to be for this coming season as well.

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by CapsFan75 on Aug 19, 2011 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, baseball is king in every city everywhere. Except for cities that like football. Which is all of America. Can’t emphasize the “past” enough in “America’s Past Time.”

Obviously, this is all speculation.

by Rob Parker on Aug 18, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

George Will and Ken Burns co-sign this.

Terrifically juvenile.

by stemmer on Aug 18, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Preach it.

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by J.P. on Aug 18, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here’s a question. If baseball were being introduced from scratch in this country, much in the way soccer is always trying to gain a foothold, how popular do you think the sport would be nationally? More to the point, if it wasn’t played in nice weather how many fans would go? My argument has always been that if you take away the nostalgia aspect of baseball (the I used to go to games with my dad memories) and the fact that it’s played mainly when the weather is warm, baseball would really struggle to hold fans. But then, I’m not a baseball fan, so I’m biased.

by b.orr4 on Aug 18, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m with you.

Obviously, this is all speculation.

by Rob Parker on Aug 18, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can you imagine 50,000 baseball fans sitting for three hours in the frozen tundra to watch Prince Fielder hack away? I can’t. If it’s starts to drizzle in most ballparks, the fans are either heading to the concession stands or the parking lot.

by b.orr4 on Aug 18, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Go to countries where it really is their past time and as soon as the weather is not balls cold, people are out in every park, yard, and field playing baseball every day after school and on the weekends. You hardly see that here in the US.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Aug 18, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Where I live, I mostly see people playing soccer in every park, yard, and field as soon as it isn’t balls cold.

Either that, or with themselves. <3 DC.

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by Wheeler on Aug 18, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

The impact of radio helped grow baseball’s audience. It was easy to follow the action even if you weren’t watching the game. These days radio is no longer a household focus.

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by oldemystix on Aug 18, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

someone should tell Reid

That Americans like that guy more than any baseball game…

Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."

Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.

by breaklance on Aug 18, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

ALOT of people. Like a real lot.

Almost every comment I read disagreed with him including those who could care less about hockey.

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by oldemystix on Aug 18, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why should we be surprised at a narrow-minded DC sports columnist? This is the city that made Tony Kornheiser a star…

by Sturmtiger on Aug 18, 2011 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

getting your digs in early today, I see. Nice work

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by RedBirdie on Aug 18, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m on vacation in upstate New York. And that was a very fun use of vacation time.

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 18, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

what are you doing up so early on vacation?! Sleep!

but, still excellent work. I enjoyed it immensely, although I’m pretty sure I heard FLYERBOB’s head explode.

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by RedBirdie on Aug 18, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Love to know where you’re vacationing – respond in OT perhaps?

Terrifically juvenile.

by stemmer on Aug 18, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

yup

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 18, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome, but you missed a few other opportunities for digs.

He’s #7 all time in points per game, ahead of hall of famers like Peter Forsberg and Joe Sakic.

Who? They don’t look like me.

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Strasburg can grant me four!!

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by STLSpidey on Aug 18, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I had to eventually stop that video, but that is hilarious. My husband was listening to it from across the room and cracking up too.

For the record, I’m rec’ing this too.

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 18, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha. Didn’t even see the link, but that was the first thing I thought of (that video was sent to me a while back by a couple of friends who are Droid users, though now that they’re dealing with Apps that are hacking their accounts, they’re quite mum).

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by bagace on Aug 18, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Regarding Bradley’s comments on Semin – does anyone remember other examples of athletes giving similarly harsh assessments of former teammates? There was Roenick’s comment about Marleau being “gutless,” but Roenick was talking as a media guy, so it wasn’t exactly the same situation. And he’s always been kind of a loudmouth, anyway. But I can recall that just the fact that he said it was kind of controversial, at the time. “Just doesn’t care” and “wants to be back in Russia” feel like they’re in the same league as “gutless,” to me, but maybe such comments happen more often than I’m remembering. And none of that is to say that anything Bradley said is or isn’t true – just trying to recall examples of former teammates being called out like that.

by blanket on Aug 18, 2011 8:49 AM EDT reply actions  

I found it unusual when I read it. I always thought pro athletes had a “code,” rarely broken, to not call each other out in print (maybe why Arnott has been quiet). One wonders if Bradley ever had the guts to say this to Semin face to face. Hope so.

Terrifically juvenile.

by stemmer on Aug 18, 2011 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m wondering if he did say it to his face and it obviously had no impact so now he’s calling him out on it. My guess is Bradley feels that to some extent Semin’s indifference has cost him his most realistic chance of getting a cup.

by Beakers Lab on Aug 18, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tiki Barber ripped Eli Manning after he retired. Actually there is plenty of evidence in the NFL of players ripping other players. Look what happened to Jay Cutler when he injured his knee in the playoffs last year, he was slaughtered by players left and right for attempting to play on it for a while then sitting out once he had trouble playing. They didn’t perceive it as a serious enough injury to sit during the playoffs. I saw NFL network go back in the past week or so and ask one of those players, Maurice Jones Drew, if he regretted what he said about Cutler on twitter and would apologize or not say it if he could go back and he said he wouldn’t change a thing.

by vtcapsfan99 on Aug 18, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

dchesnokov
 
I asked Alexander Semin for his comments on what Bradley said. Alex told me he had absolutely nothing to say about it. smart #Caps

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by EmilyB on Aug 18, 2011 9:15 AM EDT reply actions  

How is that different from every other time someone has asked Semin for a comment? Just joking. Kinda.

by b.orr4 on Aug 18, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha, that just about says it all

by d3n1x on Aug 18, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha. What’s that from?

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by Wheeler on Aug 18, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m confused. Which comes first? The head shake, the eyebrow raise or the smirk?

by b.orr4 on Aug 18, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eyebrow, smirk & headshake. Great gif!

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by BetterOffWith28 on Aug 18, 2011 11:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I guess Semin there

didn’t want to know about what he was being asked there.

by thewiz06 on Aug 18, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a feeling the request was for him to speak English.

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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Aug 18, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

haha

COme on Alex, just say, “NO”!

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by thewiz06 on Aug 18, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did he actually say, “he had nothing to say,” or did he just actually say nothing, and walked away? Either is possible here.

by SA-Town on Aug 18, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Considering the fact Dmitry is in DC area and Semin is in Siberia, I doubt Dmitry saw Semin walk away through the phone.

by vtcapsfan99 on Aug 18, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

He heard Semin drop the phone, walk off and start smoking some cigarettes.

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by sydtron on Aug 18, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

He didn’t just drop the phone, he dropped it into a black hole that he keeps in his garage. His own sense of self-worth is what keeps him from being sucked in.

by DrinkingPartner on Aug 18, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

He just doesn’t care.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Aug 18, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

There’s a woman in my VC section who is such a huge Matt Bradley fan that when she had a baby girl last year she named her “Tenley” after his number ten. I wonder if she’s going to change her daughter’s name now??

by Goaliemama on Aug 18, 2011 9:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Eightley?

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by NJNJ on Aug 18, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

she’s going to get really into Tenleytown now.

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by sydtron on Aug 18, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not that I don't believe Bradley...

but who were these other players that were playing well and deserved more playing time?

by Dave Bizzle on Aug 18, 2011 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Flash, Killer Dave, Varly, Sloan.

Ya know, the guys who went out there and gave it their all every night. No one could beat Sloan’s NCC/60 !

Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."

Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.

by breaklance on Aug 18, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d categorize Bradley’s comments less about “bottom 6 playing more” and more about “the top 6 playing the same no matter what” without accountability and/or reprisals.

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by Bald Pollack on Aug 18, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think one of the players he was saying as more deserving was Chimera, who played really well vs. the Rangers but remained on the third line. Chimera did have two GWGs in the first round (one on a great assist from Marion Gabroik), but whether moving him to the second line and someone down to the third line would have made enough difference to reverse the outcome of the second round is not likely.

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 18, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was my issue with what he said yesterday; that he was quick to point the finger towards the top 2 lines (and more specifically, towards Semin), but was not willing to accept any part of the blame for the collapse in the TB series.

"I remembered when he said that and I kind of looked at him during the warm up and told myself that I got to shut these guys out tonight." - Michal Neuvirth, 02.06.11.

by bagace on Aug 18, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

What blame would you be talking about? Could it be the part were the Tampa 3rd & 4th liners collected 5 goals and 5 assists in the four-game sweep while the Washington 3rd & 4th liners managed 1 goal and 1 assist over the same stretch?

by b.orr4 on Aug 18, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that. And just the whole “finger pointing” without accepting any of the blame yourself.
I hate finger pointers.
(sorry, real life rant).

"I remembered when he said that and I kind of looked at him during the warm up and told myself that I got to shut these guys out tonight." - Michal Neuvirth, 02.06.11.

by bagace on Aug 18, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the context of the interview, I didn’t hear anything that was Brads playing the blame game and not taking responsibility. I think your interpretation is too harsh (colored by the “real life” you mention?).

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by oldemystix on Aug 18, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

We already had this discussion yesterday. But I’ll stand my ground that his lack of the pronoun “we” when talking about the playoff collapse bugs me.

"I remembered when he said that and I kind of looked at him during the warm up and told myself that I got to shut these guys out tonight." - Michal Neuvirth, 02.06.11.

by bagace on Aug 18, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well it’s the fault of the Caps’ top 6 that Tampa’s bottom 6 scored so much, not Bradley’s line. But I think the bigger problem stemming from Bradley’s comments is not that the top 6 kept getting time in the playoffs, because people are right: it wouldn’t have affected the outcome of the series. The real problem is that BB never used ice time as a punishment in the regular season when he can afford to bench his stars and instill a culture of accountability. Maybe if the things Bradley suggested had happened before the playoffs, many of the problems in the playoffs could have been avoided.

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by Killer_Carlson on Aug 18, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Oh, Alex.

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by EmilyB on Aug 18, 2011 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh boy. And you have to love Ovie’s shirt in that picture.

My mind is all twtisted like a peanut.

by timmyv38 on Aug 18, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Russian "Thug Life" is tough, yo

Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."

Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.

by breaklance on Aug 18, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I swear he gets his wardrobe from the companies that dump unwanted merch into third world countries. He’ll be photographed any day now wearing a “Pittsburgh Steelers Super Bowl XLV Champions” shirt.

Terrifically juvenile.

by stemmer on Aug 18, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you sure it’s even his T shirt (link)?

"I remembered when he said that and I kind of looked at him during the warm up and told myself that I got to shut these guys out tonight." - Michal Neuvirth, 02.06.11.

by bagace on Aug 18, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’ve been sharing shirts again, haven’t they.

My mind is all twtisted like a peanut.

by timmyv38 on Aug 18, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can’t be sharing the same shirt … if it fit on Ovi it would look like a muumuu on Sasha.

by patred48 on Aug 18, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

He looks fat in that picture

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by Davethecapsfan on Aug 18, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nylander

OK, so I’ll take the Nylander one, since no one else seems to care.

If they’re bringing him back to play with Jagr, that could actually be a smart(ish) move. I mean, who else on that team can play the sloooooooow style that Jagr likes? Remember, that was Nylander’s main problem under BB, that he would hit the blue line and stop.

I think he’d be a good running mate for Jagr. Until, like, December when they realize that they’re old and slow.

by Toddra on Aug 18, 2011 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m not personally scared that they will re-ignite that chemistry. Both are older and slower. If they want to roll out a slow, one-way line, then go for it. It also basically guarantees (even more than already was guaranteed) that Couturier isn’t on the team this year, and if Nyls plays well it puts a cramp on Schenn in the lineup.

Obviously, this is all speculation.

by Rob Parker on Aug 18, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right. They were good… five years (and one rotator cuff and broken neck) ago. I would be shocked if Nylander makes the team and even more shocked if he gets signficant minutes with Jagr.

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by J.P. on Aug 18, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think “If they want to” speaks to the most important part of that experiment in my mind. There are three parties at play: the team/coach, Jagr, and Nyls. If all three agree on the role for the latter two, there could be some upside (I guess)

by leacha on Aug 18, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would be ecstatic if the Flyers ever rolled out a line with Nyls and Jagr against the Caps

Aim for the head baby Jesus

by Doncosmic on Aug 18, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

<a href=“http:// ”http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2011/8/18/2370213/your-mom-is-a-goon" target="_blank">http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2011/8/18/2370213/your-mom-is-a-goon" >Pretty good analysis at PPP today on Goons in the NHL:

DJ King at #5 is our highest on the list. Hendricks and Bradley come in at 39 and 40, respectively, and Erskine slots in at 73. The ranking is based on Average TOI per fighting major.

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by iwearstripes on Aug 18, 2011 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I am madder and madder at Brads after reading all the articles today. It confirms my existing 3 prejudices: 1) Brads was way over-rated when he was here. 2) He should have kept his mouth shut when he left and taken up these issues with BB and Ovi in private. 3) While Semin certainly does deserve some blame for his apparent and occasional lazy-ass play, Knubles and, especially, Laich (both of whom I like, by the way) don’t get nearly enough blame. Read Rock the Red for the best commentary on the situation in my opinion.

by Wilderthing on Aug 18, 2011 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Those are all your opinions, but I disagree strongly with 1 and 2.

1. Nothing that Brads said indicated he thought he should have gotten more ice time or that he feels he was more talented than he was given credit for. In fact, his words [on the top 6 getting too much ice]:

“Yeah, and I’m not talking about myself at all here.

“There were a lot of guys who played well that didn’t probably play as much as they needed to.

I don’t have the stat on hand, but I remember that during one of the playoff games [I think it was the NYR 2OT], Brads played like 9 – 11 minutes of a 85+ minute hockey game. Wouldn’t you be a little perturbed by that, too? It’s not like he’s a defensive sieve. I believe (again, no numbers in front of me) that that is around or below his normal TOI for a regulation game. Surprising stuff.

He was a huge fan favorite during his time here and I don’t think he felt slighted at all. I agree with what someone said above — that if he has any real animosity towards the skill players, it’s because he feels that his best chance at a cup was with Washington the last couple seasons, and it was squandered not because of a lack of team talent, but team effort.

2. None of us were in the room over the last 5 years, so we cannot say definitively if Brads ever approached BB or Ovi and discussed these things with them in private. If, in fact, he did that and nothing changed, why would you blame him for saying it out loud now? He at least did 5 years as the loyal soldier, not espousing these views in public while he remained a member of the team. I’m prepared to give him a lot more credit for that than if this were another team where “anonymous clubhouse leaders” routinely rip on current teammates.

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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Aug 18, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

And so I’m not just spouting random numbers:

Caps 4, Rangers 3 (2OT) — Brads played 10:59 on 20 shifts. Boyd Gordon played 16:08 on 33 shifts despite taking 2 minor penalties. Most of that was made up on the PK (4:34 for BG to 0:00 for Brads).

Brads’ ATOI in the regular season with WSH (capped at 65:00 possible):

2005-2006: 12:36
2006-2007: 11:55
2007-2008: 9:60
2008-2009: 10:37
2009-2010: 11:02
2010-2011: 10:29

J.P.: You might be the king of all geeks here…

by Alz Well That Ends Well on Aug 18, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Rec’search.

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by EmilyB on Aug 18, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK; nice research, thanks. True, I am venting a bit. You are correct; I do not remember him whining about his playing time. You are correct; he may have talked to BB and OVI during his tenure. As to his numbers, OK. He didn’t receive a lot of ice time, but did he deserve more ice time? Perhaps, but it was not like in 5 seasons he didn’t have the opportunity to make a better case for himself.
Actually, I am a little surprised I am even writing about this. Perhaps I am just itchy for the season to begin and this happens to be the issue de jour. The more substantive issue on this topic is what roles should 3rd – and especially – 4th line wingers play? Statistically, I think they tend to be relatively similar so it is ‘character’ (i.e. Bradley-like things) that keep them on the team. My personal preference would be more less-talented than elite top 6 forwards – but still skilled – play in those slots as oppose to ‘character’ guys. One ‘character’ slot seems more than enough, including both offense and defense.

by Wilderthing on Aug 18, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

My point is not that he should get 20 minutes during the regular season or playoffs. I think 10-11 minutes is perfectly normal for a 3rd or 4th liner who doesn’t get PK time. My point was that he got 11 minutes in a double OT game where everyone was getting significantly more ice time, and I can’t remember anything he did which would put him in the doghouse for that game. Hell, Bruce’s favorite whipping boy Fehr had almost 19 in that one. Sturm almost hit 25 of the 92 minutes. Those are the “top 6” (one of them was on the third line in that game) players who get more ice. But Sturm didn’t do anything in that one. In more than twice the ice time, he had fewer hits than Brads and took a penalty. That doesn’t mean you elevate Brads to the second line, but it does lend credence to his claim that some players were getting more ice than they deserve.

Of course, I am cherry picking convenient data and it’s the smallest possible sample size, so take all of this with a grain of salt.

J.P.: You might be the king of all geeks here…

by Alz Well That Ends Well on Aug 18, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta remember in that 2OT game, 32 minutes was sudden death. Think you’d want players with the best chance of scoring (ie, not your grinders) out there for the bulk of the time.

"I remembered when he said that and I kind of looked at him during the warm up and told myself that I got to shut these guys out tonight." - Michal Neuvirth, 02.06.11.

by bagace on Aug 18, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ignoring for a second that Chimera did score the game winner, would you expect him to have 20 minutes?

J.P.: You might be the king of all geeks here…

by Alz Well That Ends Well on Aug 18, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bruce’s third line was always a scoring line, not a grinder line. Brads-Gordo-Hendricks were the 4 line.

"I remembered when he said that and I kind of looked at him during the warm up and told myself that I got to shut these guys out tonight." - Michal Neuvirth, 02.06.11.

by bagace on Aug 18, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Given that the 3rd line was a scoring line, could Brads have been alluding to the fact that if the 3rd line cast of characters, e.g. Fehr or Chimmer, happen to be performing better than the 2nd line cast of characters during a particular time frame, shouldn’t the 3rd line folks get more ice time and the 2nd line folks get less?

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by CapsFan75 on Aug 18, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hee Hee This is kind of fun. I do vaguely recall the game and Sturm probably didn’t deserve all the time but I understand why. Your example of Fehrsie is perfect because that is exactly the kind of guy I would continue to play, despite the fact that the decision is irrational. My thinking would be that, at least, the guy COULD break the game open but someone like Brads probably could not, considering how his entire NHL history had him chipping in only single digits or very low double digit goals. And, of course, this explains why I would be a lousy coach – as opposed to just a lousy armchair blogger.

by Wilderthing on Aug 18, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

He may have had a spot in Bruce’s doghouse while in DC, but I’m sure Bruce recalled Fehr’s OT GWG in the Calder Cup run in ’07

"I remembered when he said that and I kind of looked at him during the warm up and told myself that I got to shut these guys out tonight." - Michal Neuvirth, 02.06.11.

by bagace on Aug 18, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the subject of Fehr, I recalled that he was doing well in the Montreal series in 2010 and tended to do well against that team in general. I wondered if he should have gotten more ice time then.

Rocking the Red for teams on the banks of the Potomac and at the Gateway Arch and Singing the Blues about Hockey.

by CapsFan75 on Aug 18, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

And also that if you keep throwing your top lines out even when they aren’t playing well, then you are just wearing them down with no postitive return.

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by oldemystix on Aug 18, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point. Actually, THERE is a good role for 4th liners to play, i.e. allowing the skilled guys to rest. No kidding. That kind of contributes to the notion, then, that 4th liners could be ‘interchangeable.’

by Wilderthing on Aug 18, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was yelling at my tv many times when Bruce sent out the top lines again and again barely giving them time to catch their breath after their last shift when it was clear those lines were having problems and getting frustrated. Frustration tends to make things worse in my experience. I thought Bruce should have sent out the 3rd and 4th lines a few more times so the skilled players could get a little rest and collect themselves. A fool is someone who does the same things over and over and expects different results. (Hello, PP?)

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by oldemystix on Aug 18, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, you could be right.

by Wilderthing on Aug 18, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

6 seasons, actually; he signed with the Caps following the lockout. Ovie is now the only remaining regular from that atrocious 05-06 squad. Helpy doesn’t count because he went elsewhere in between.

I realized last night that I have pucks signed by all three Caps-turn-Kitties. weird.

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by RedBirdie on Aug 18, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah that’s the second time in two days I wrote that Brads played 5 years. Crow/porcupine eaten.

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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Aug 18, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Although in retrospect, Brads definitely wasn’t approaching Boudreau in 2005-2006, and he probably wasn’t telling anyone that Semin needed to elevate his game that year either.

J.P.: You might be the king of all geeks here…

by Alz Well That Ends Well on Aug 18, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe you need to listen to the interview again because you are putting words into Brads’ mouth. Nothing he said was outrageous. Similar things have been said about Semin by named and unnamed players. Part of why Brads felt comfortable calling out Semin, and it’s there in his interview, is because he is so talented and it is frustrating and baffling to others as to why his play doesn’t/can’t match his ability. 3rd and 4th liners who work hard to keep their skills at an NHL level can’t believe someone with that much natural talent wouldn’t “bring it” day in and day out (like an Ovechkin or a Crosby). After six years in the same locker room, Brads has concluded that Semin is squandering his skill.

It’s getting traction because of the bluntness of “doesn’t care,” Sasha criticisms always bring out the lovers and the haters, it’s been a slow news summer, and people are bored without hockey.

Additionally, reading things that support your prejudices is bush league. Have you bothered to process other interpretations?

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by oldemystix on Aug 18, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

In fact I have. I read all the dozen or so mentioned in today’s Clips. Rock the Red seems, according to “my prejudices”, that is, the best recap, including Peerless who I always like. So, having admitted I would be a bad coach, I promise to coach in the “bush” leagues if I ever change my mind.

by Wilderthing on Aug 18, 2011 4:33 PM EDT reply actions  

They say that if the woman touches her hair, you’re doing well. Her nose? Not so much. Given her holding on to her hair in all four, I guess he was doing well.

Geeks of All Nations, Compile!

by AMusingFool on Aug 18, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

She better be careful. That hair looks so bleached that if she pulls too hard on it, it might come right out of her scalp.

by b.orr4 on Aug 18, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

her roots are atrocious. If your hair is that naturally dark and you dye it that blond, at least put in the effort at upkeep so we don’t have to look at the platinum-and-chocolate combo.

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by RedBirdie on Aug 18, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

But it accents the entire “plastic and science made me this way” look she’s got going.

Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."

Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.

by breaklance on Aug 19, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

What do they say about having millions of dollars and bringing a Stanley Cup to the city? Does that help?

J.P.: You might be the king of all geeks here…

by Alz Well That Ends Well on Aug 18, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t get past the size of his watch.

Terrifically juvenile.

by stemmer on Aug 18, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t get past the…well….is he wearing a watch?

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