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Playing [Semin] for offense may lead to some issues.

Like goals? Or offensive zone stick penalties?

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by NGreenberg on Jul 22, 2011 7:14 AM EDT reply actions  

It has been pointed out that a classic Semin hat trick (goal, assist, offensive zone stick penalty) means that the Caps have scored at least two goals and have been in position to threaten for a third.

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by EmilyB on Jul 22, 2011 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, a new game… “Whack-a-Sasha”

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by ThePeerless on Jul 22, 2011 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fun for all ages!

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by EmilyB on Jul 22, 2011 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

In Soviet Russia, ice moles whack you!

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by Dimagus on Jul 22, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

They’re ice mastodons there

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by ThePeerless on Jul 22, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

actually they’re Ice Flamingos.

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by Boggles on Jul 22, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Everybody deals with it some time, it’s not that big a deal.

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by fat_daddyo on Jul 22, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Only if you’ve got a towel handy.

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by D'ohboy on Jul 22, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll go with the latter

by Obi wan Knuble on Jul 22, 2011 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really don’t like Semin on a stopper line. I guess at spot duty it could make sense, but as much as anything you need the stoppers to be reliable in terms of effort and attention to detail. That isn’t Semin. Further, worrying about" enough offensive ice time" seems to overlook a basic point every team needs at least two scoring lines. Not only is there enough" offensive ice time" to go around, teams absolutely need guys to be productive in the secondary minutes. No, not everyone gets Sedin minutes, but that’s why you have the Keeler line. Every successful team has a second line that can hurt you.

Obviously, this is all speculation.

by Rob Parker on Jul 22, 2011 7:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Agree on all counts. On the second line he has a chance to kill easy minutes while he is the best player on the ice. Also, getting a guy who may not be the most coachable guy in the world to buy in to playing defense in a contract year would be a really hard sell. I think it would end badly—likely in a trade where the caps get little coming the other way.

30 goal scorers make a lot more than checking line wings.

by JPN888 on Jul 22, 2011 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think playing D would keep his cost down. Everyone knows he can score.

Obviously, this is all speculation.

by Rob Parker on Jul 22, 2011 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

It may not in actuality, but he might not see it that way.

by JPN888 on Jul 22, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, getting a guy who may not be the most coachable guy in the world to buy in to playing defense in a contract year would be a really hard sell.

Maybe, but I don’t think that’s the case with Alex Semin. I don’t think he cares about goals and points as much as he cares about playing the game beautifully. He’s more interested in style than substance, it seems, and would rather try and fail on a curl and drag than get a secondary assist on a dump-in. And insofar as defense goes, he loves killing penalties and is a fantastic defender at evens when he wants to be (albeit not along the boards so much as in space), so it’s not like getting him to buy-in on D is the problem – getting him to buy-in overall is.

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by J.P. on Jul 22, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

For what it’s worth, over the last five seasons Semin finished second in takeaways on the Caps four times (Ovechkin and Backstrom alternated in the top spot). The one time he didn’t was a year in which he played in only 63 games.

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by ThePeerless on Jul 22, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

he cares about playing the game beautifully
He’s more interested in style than substance
is a fantastic defender at evens when he wants to be (albeit not along the boards so much as in space)

Semin does whatever the hell Semin wants. Systems? Sasha cares not for such trifles. This sort of behavior was a little more tolerable when the Caps played a more free-wheeling system, but I really doubt that Semin’s going to be a reliable checker in a more defensive system. Overall, on average, Semin’s going to be a net-positive defensively, but it’s those moments when his laissez-faire attitude toward systems play and “doing the little things correctly” that will give Boudreau pause when considering using Semin in a defensive role.

Put simply: Imagine the end of a tight game against Pittsburgh. Bylsma throws out Malkin/Crosby/Kunitz, and the Caps get the puck to Semin in the neutral zone. Would you trust Sasha to dump the puck in deep and get off the ice, or would you be worried that he’d try to curl-and-drag his way around Letang, get stripped of the puck and then take a stupid hooking penalty trying to get the puck back?

The very high probability of the latter is why Semin doesn’t get used in those situations. LIke I said, his talent makes him an overall net positive, but his propensity to do whatever the hell he pleases is what makes him a liability at key moments.

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by D'ohboy on Jul 22, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

So… you agree with me?

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by J.P. on Jul 22, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. I was just trying to elaborate and use your quote just in case part of the Semin lobby thought that this was just another case of my anti-Semin bias.

I love watching the guy play. Until he makes me want to tear my eyelashes out.

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by D'ohboy on Jul 22, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I am off the Rink for a day and F&B is named a contributor. God this place is going to hell…..

(seriously though, congrats mate you deserved it)

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by Rather Bengt on Jul 22, 2011 7:55 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Thanks, RB.

Obviously, this is all speculation.

by Rob Parker on Jul 22, 2011 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did you notice F&B wrote it, but JP posted it? I suspect this is like a parent letting their child drive the car, but not giving the child his own set of keys.

Even so – good stuff.

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by STLSpidey on Jul 22, 2011 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Can’t be too careful.

Obviously, this is all speculation.

by Rob Parker on Jul 22, 2011 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I suspect it depends on the author, er, kid.

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by STLSpidey on Jul 22, 2011 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Greenie looked so very grim in his exit interview. Someone go give him a hug and tell him it will all work out.

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by EmilyB on Jul 22, 2011 7:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, he realized he’s going to miss the Front Page’s deep fryer.

/shows himself out

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by Bald Pollack on Jul 22, 2011 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mixed feelings on the Peerless piece.

I love seeing the player changeover all in one place on occasion. I love rooting for the players on the Capitals, but sometimes I just kind of lose track of them. Kinda weird seeing some names there and having to think wow, I they actually haven’t played for Washington in 2 (or more) years?

On the other hand, I’m not too sure I agree with his conclusions. The core is set and now the team is just looking to fill in support players. I’m not sure this if this is really the case, or just what was available this offseason (or what they thought was available). If you look at the guys that have moved this year at center, at least 3 of them would be core guys on just about any team, but one one was known to be available as a free agent. You can’t tell me that GMGM wouldn’t have liked to have added one of those centers from Philly to our core. If they had all been free agents, the price might have actually been low enough to grab one, instead of the entire NHL bidding and driving up the price on Richards as the lone free agent.

Also, Peerless indicates that the core must be in their window of opportunity because management is making more long term adjustments to the support cast instead of just short term solutions at the trade deadline. While I think he might be right about the core and window part, not sure the actions really support that conclusion. I think it is much more likely that in looking over the past year, or past several, trying to figure out what was missing from those teams, they decided that the support group needed a complete makeover, not just some touching up tweaks at the deadline. You can’t rely on completely changing out your support staff at the deadline because it is just too many players coming and going to expect that you will find all the givers and takers that you need at that point, not to mention getting all those guys to gel in a lineup etc… The time to make those changes is now, in the offseason, and that requires longer term contracts than just cherry picking from the guys offered up at the deadline who are usually offered up just because they are at the end of their contract and their current team expects to lose them anyway at the end of the year and wants whatever small return they can get for losing an asset.

Sorry about the wall of text. And I really do enjoy your work Peerless, just kinda disagree with this one.

by HateOffSeason on Jul 22, 2011 8:32 AM EDT reply actions  

I don’t know if we disagree. The acquisitions made at deadline and those made in the off-season really are two different species. The in-season, deadline acquisitons seem to have been made to inject something the core didn’t yet have — a sense of how to lead. Certainly Fedorov and Arnott had that capacity, both players in the autumn of their careers, skills-wise. The other of those acquisitions did not require long-term commitments (i.e., they were rentals). Making those commitments by bringing on players with years and money left on their deals, might not have made sense if the core wasn’t ready.

But sign Knuble in 2009, bring on Wideman (with money and time left on his contract), sign Hamrlik, Halpern, and Ward. Trade for Brouwer. If the team has confidence that its core is ready, they can make such commitments without fear of wasting the early years of them waiting for the core to mature.

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by ThePeerless on Jul 22, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brad Schlegel, Calder Candidate
Brad Schlegel. Calder Candidate.

In support of his candidacy, Schlegel registered an assist in seven games for the Caps and was edged out for the 1992-93 Rookie of the Year trophy by Teemu Selanne, who finished a mere 131 points ahead of Schegel in the rookie scoring race.

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by fat_daddyo on Jul 22, 2011 9:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Teemu by a whisker.

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by J.P. on Jul 22, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

(And yes, that’s one of my favorite cards ever.)

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by J.P. on Jul 22, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Underrated part of that card – Schlegel’s third leg. Ahem.

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by J.P. on Jul 22, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I am all for “Sporting a Schlegel” to being the newest hockey colloquial term.

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by Rather Bengt on Jul 22, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

More from the wayback machine, in which we learn that Schlegel turned into Andrew Brunette.

This is damned fun.

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by fat_daddyo on Jul 22, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Geez. The guy played forever in Europe.

He must have been a stud early on, given the prominence on the Canadian national teams.

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by STLSpidey on Jul 22, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

As minimal as his NHL career was, his Olympic career for the Canadian National Team was worthy. In the days before NHL stars comprising the Olympic teams, Schlegel was a vital contributor for Team Canada in Albertville and Lillehammer in the early 90s.

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by Rather Bengt on Jul 22, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Alternate Captain, He Was

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by STLSpidey on Jul 22, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also a reminder of how insane Selanne’s season was.

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by The Ghost of Bebop on Jul 22, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good morning everyone. Well, we’re not going to Hershey today…I’ve delayed this road trip until tomorrow. 14 soon to be 15 yo boys sometimes don’t know when to keep their mouths shut when talking to their Mother, soooooo…a little parental lesson on consequences.

by Goaliemama on Jul 22, 2011 10:16 AM EDT reply actions  

(OTOT…)

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by J.P. on Jul 22, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

ooops, thought that’s where I was…sorry

by Goaliemama on Jul 22, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

No worries at all.

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by J.P. on Jul 22, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am going to nominate F&B for a co-write on the Carerra CI piece. It was posted by her at 12:43 pm yesterday, plenty of time for her to read F&B’s excellent analysis and contact the agent for a quote. Even plenty of time for her to first check Ted’s blog, the Caps website, OFB, ESPN, Puck Daddy, and any other mediocre site before coming here and getting the real scoop, then call the agent.

Nice work F&B, and congrats on the masthead.

Terrifically juvenile.

by stemmer on Jul 22, 2011 10:22 AM EDT reply actions  

If F&B’s post prompted the Post to do a little more digging on the story (who knows if it did – they might have had a call/email in for weeks that finally got returned… who knows), that’s great. Reporters reporting is always a good thing, and if they happen to receive a nudge from somewhere else, that somewhere else has provided a useful service.

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by J.P. on Jul 22, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t believe my post had anything to do with it but thanks anyway, stemmer.

Obviously, this is all speculation.

by Rob Parker on Jul 22, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can you ask Katie to find out why Ovi’s letting himself get fat?

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Jul 22, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I support this idea one gazillion percent.

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by Bald Pollack on Jul 22, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

But only if they imbibe first, like the two guys on that Canuck’s Army podcast in the links.

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by bagace on Jul 22, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

We could do it, but we’d probably end up laughing riotously and pissing off 95% of the listeners.

Obviously, this is all speculation.

by Rob Parker on Jul 22, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

um, that’s the point

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Jul 22, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

We're ready for our podcast, eh?

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by ThePeerless on Jul 22, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Or...

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by stemmer on Jul 22, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

Take the beer from the former and the attitude of the latter.

Armareddon.

by D'ohboy on Jul 22, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

They could call it The Keynesy and Friedy Show, with the tagline Where Hockey, Hot Karls, and Master Debating Collide

by Cluster on Jul 22, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I’d prefer to call it “Hockey Bukkake.”

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by D'ohboy on Jul 22, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Oh goodness. Using a SC replica?

Terrifically juvenile.

by stemmer on Jul 22, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

You’ll surely need more than two participants then. Rec’d for being hysterical.

by JPN888 on Jul 22, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

E.j. Hradek tweets….“Winter classic teams: 99 percent Flyers & Rangers RT @Joseph_Milos: who’ll b the team(s) on HBO this year? Caps n Pens were great last year!”

Got me to wondering. In each of the four “classics” so far the matchups have been intraconference in nature (East/East, West/West, East/East, East/East). The Flyer/Ranger game will make it 5 for 5. Wondering if the NHL will break the chain in 2013 with an interconference game. And if the NHL decides not to, opting for a West/West game in 2013, would the Caps then get their “promised” shot at hosting a game in 2014?

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by ThePeerless on Jul 22, 2011 10:57 AM EDT reply actions  

With Greenberg gone, is it possible/probable that HBO doesn’t do another NHL 24/7?

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by stemmer on Jul 22, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting. Do you have any info on how much of a success NHL 24/7 was for HBO? I know the hockey community adored it, but did casual HBO viewers tune in? Did their subscriptions increase? Were they disappointed it only produced 1 minor Emmy?

by capsfan4 on Jul 22, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Quick search doesn’t find much, other than each episode got what seem to be ratings similar to their boxing versions (around 300-400K viewers). I recall Bettman making some statement that WC teams now needed to agree to do 24/7 as well, but again wonder if Greenberg leaving will affect that.

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by stemmer on Jul 22, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good to hear about the ratings. I would think that would be enough to justify continuing the series.

by capsfan4 on Jul 22, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Related, I tweeted EJ to ask if he knew or could find out if HBO is actually going to release the series on DVD. They had something on the website some weeks ago, but it’s disappeared. He said he would try to find out.

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by Seminrocks on Jul 22, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the NHL has found that the rivalries thing works for the WC. and you don’t have many inter-conference rivalries these days (other than, say, PIT DET).

they did an E/W thing for the heritage classic this year, though

by j762 on Jul 22, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Given that PHI played in 2010 and is hosting for 2012, I kind of expect the Caps to get their home game in 2013. Then we get to go back to the game of who do they play? Going on the inter-conference theme, I wouldn’t mind Chicago. They’ve hosted already, so their next game should be away. And the past two CHI/WAS games have been pretty exciting.

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by gfcaps fan on Jul 22, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

If we’re talkin’ puck possession, we’re talkin’ Jay Beagle. You could look it up. [TSN (Cullen)]

Did anyone read this piece and leave with the impression that giveaway/takeaway stats are useful for anything at all. My strong impression is that they’re nearly worthless. After being fed those stats for years, I feel tricked, duped, led astray, hoodwinked, bamboozled…

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by Gould Old Days on Jul 22, 2011 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Until they have reliable scoring I don’t see how they can mean much.

Obviously, this is all speculation.

by Rob Parker on Jul 22, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, they’ve been meaningless for a long time. I’ve long thought they should do away with giveaway and takeaway entirely and go with turnover plus/minus – you lose the puck, you get a minus; guy gets the puck, he gets a plus. As it is now, one scorer sees something as a giveaway, another as a takeaway and it fucks everything up.

Example – Jeff Schultz fumbles a puck he’s trying to pass, Marty St. Louis gets it. One scorer could see it currently as a Schultz GvA, another as a St. Look TkA. Under my scoring, it would be a – for Schultz and a + for MSL.

Not sure that +/- would even have that much utility, but it would certainly be better than the current crap.

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by J.P. on Jul 22, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ward wasn’t signed for his offense.

by Ginga on Jul 22, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe Pisani was, but at least now Chicago trusts him for general checking line duty. So they are similar in that regard.

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by red army line on Jul 22, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice first post! Ward is probably overpaid, but he is a very good defensive player. He’ll contribute to the Caps no matter how much offense he brings.

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by Gould Old Days on Jul 22, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

In fairness to Pisani, he had significant injury problems after 05-06 (ulcerative colitis at one point) which contributed to his decline in production. Also, I don’t recall Pisani being much of a grinder, which is what Ward is really being brought in for. One of the big problems in the playoffs this past year was that the bottom six contributed hardly any offense.

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by The Ghost of Bebop on Jul 22, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a comparison that occurred to me as well and I think there’s something to it.

Let’s not forget through, Pisani’s career was derailed in large part by his ulcerative colitis. He was overpaid for his playoff heroics, but his next years may have been different had he not fallen ill.

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by D'ohboy on Jul 22, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

And in retrospect 2.5 isn’t the worst deal around.

Obviously, this is all speculation.

by Rob Parker on Jul 22, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for joining.

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by Bald Pollack on Jul 22, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Forgot to mention… new content on the front page.

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by J.P. on Jul 22, 2011 12:02 PM EDT reply actions  

The fact that you guys can generate substantive content at all during this period of the off-season is astounding.

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by skyywise on Jul 22, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thinking about Garrett Haar, on the one hand, I’m glad to see kids from non-traditional markets choose hockey as their sport. It’s a great sign that the game will remain healthy and viable in the future.

On the other hand, I feel some sadness that the son of The Great One chose baseball instead of hockey. (Although I understand if he didn’t want to play a sport forever in his father’s shadow.) Maybe Trevor Gretzky can do for the Cubs what his dad did for the Oilers, but still…

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by skyywise on Jul 22, 2011 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t blame Trevor Gretzky one bit.

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by RedBirdie on Jul 22, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vacation in just under six hours!! So hard to stay focused.

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by STLSpidey on Jul 22, 2011 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

You would be correct sir!!

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by STLSpidey on Jul 22, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

So Matty P requires waiver this season, think he gets carried?

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by Ovechwin on Jul 22, 2011 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

He’s a longshot.

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by J.P. on Jul 22, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

ahhh....bleacher report......

i like the slideshows, but otherwise, their analysis and writing is just not good.

by thewiz06 on Jul 22, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

watching that…..wow, such happy little Caps. Had forgotten just how exuberant they were that night! And damn it’s weird to see Knuble in the Flyers jersey.

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by RedBirdie on Jul 22, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leafs “Net Presence” scoring chances. Verify that Kessel isn’t a “go to the tough areas” type player, at least not at the right time.

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by red army line on Jul 22, 2011 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

If you need stats to tell you that. . .

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by D'ohboy on Jul 22, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course I do!! You think I actually watch the game?

It helps to see how a player ranks relative to others on his team. Sure, we can say “Kessel doesn’t go to those areas” but that’s obviously hyperbole. The relevant question is how often.

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by red army line on Jul 22, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I know, just snarking.

I’m just not all that into stats that tell me something that’s obvious. Kessel shies away from dangerous areas on the ice. You can tell that from watching him skate for just a period.

Armareddon.

by D'ohboy on Jul 22, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joffrey Lupul doesn’t look so good under those lights either…

Pretty interesting measurement, considering the high scoring percentage of those chances.

by bigonetimer on Jul 22, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

New Jets logos

What do you guys think? Personally, I like ‘em, but they aren’t amazing or anything.

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by thebreakawaygoal on Jul 22, 2011 5:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I love the new logos, although I like the old jets logo better then the one in the bottom right-hand corner.

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by The Ghost of Bebop on Jul 22, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

well the old jets logo

looks a bit too retro so the best they could have done was a refresh like what we did four years ago, but these logos look pretty fresh, except the one on the lower right……

by thewiz06 on Jul 24, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh.

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by RedBirdie on Jul 22, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’d think the team played in Canada or something, eh.

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by D'ohboy on Jul 22, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

The upper right one looks like a headless duck, which was my first impression looking at it small on my phone.

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by Seminrocks on Jul 22, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not horrible, but IMO they would have been better served going with an updated look of their pre-relocation jerseys (similar concept to the Caps’ unis).

by grapejoos on Jul 22, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

It doesn’t help that their original designs were excellent. That cursive “Jets” logo with the maple leaf looks like a possessive “Jet’s” as in, “These meh uniforms belong to the Jets!”

by capsfan4 on Jul 22, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, the hockey sticks have a strange curve (as in lack thereof,) and why is there a white triangle in the circle surrounding the jet in the first logo? Is this some sort of compass/literal designation of True North? If so, that’s very clever, but blatantly self-serving.

by capsfan4 on Jul 22, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s partially a design choice so the jet doesn’t touch the circle (which would look weird IMO) but also a nod to True North…. I’m okay with it, considering how clever it ends up being.

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by thebreakawaygoal on Jul 22, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

whatever is whatever

those colors have the ability to be really bland.

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by can't skate on Jul 22, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

F 16, right?

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by Gould Old Days on Jul 22, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by red army line on Jul 22, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Logo silhouette is an F-18, or at least an attempt at one. Maybe they needed to leave it a bit generic to avoid issues with Boeing-McDonnell Douglas. It’s tempting to call it an F-16 though because of the logo’s chubbier fuselage from the cockpit to the nose. The Hornet’s nose is longer and narrower.

Since the logo is a god’s eye view it’s hard to break out the twin vertical stabs, but like breaklance said, the real giveaway are the horizontal stabs.

by Cluster on Jul 23, 2011 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Of these logo’s I’d of had the main logo as a patch, and the 2 patches as the two uniform main logos with the cursive jets being the away – white jersey logo, and the wings being the home – color jersey.

The compass/jet/leaf/bulls eye mash up is pretty bleh. I could make that logo on windows paint.

The jet in the actual logo appears to be an FA-18 or CF -188(same plane, made for US) not an F16. If you compare the actual logo with the silhoette knee high posted while modern jets have similar designs the big telling difference is the tail fins. The F-16 horizontal tail fins are perpedicular to the plane. The FA-18 have angular ones.

Also I literally made this using Knee High’s image and a generic red maple leaf in 2 minutes on Windows paint. It still goes with the RCAF bull eye with the red leaf for a certain without looking half as dumb considering the effort, minimal. Would look better with a fatter plane imo. Like a B-2 bomber to allow the bulls eye within the jet thing to work better. But still the logo is a pretty basic layering technique.

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by breaklance on Jul 23, 2011 3:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

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