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2010-11 Rink Wrap: Jeff Schultz

From Alzner to Wideman, we're taking a look at and grading (please read the criteria below) the 2010-11 season for every player who laced 'em up for the Caps for a significant number of games during the campaign, with an eye towards 2011-12. Next up, Jeff Schultz.


Jeff Schultz

#55 / Defenseman / Washington Capitals

6-6

221

Feb 25, 1986

5

$2,750,000 cap hit through 2013-14; UFA summer 2014

'09-'10 Rink Wrap: 7.63

4.93

6.32



2010-11 StatsGPGAP+/-PIMPPGSHGGWGSOGPCTTOI/G
Regular Season 72 1 9
10
6
12 0 0 1
34 2.9 19:37
Playoffs 9 0 0
0
1 6
0 0 0 9
0.0 20:46

Key Stats: Schultz led the League's second-best regular season penalty killing unit in shorthanded ice time per game (minimum 22 games).

Interesting Stat: Since the lockout, only Nicklas Lidstrom has a better plus-minus among NHL blueliners than Schultz, who hasn't finished a season with a minus rating since his penultimate year of Juniors. 

The Good: At five-aside, Schultz faced the toughest competition among the team's defense corps, with the exception of the top pair, and did so without the benefit of a consistent partner - whereas in 2009-10 he skated more than half of the time with Mike Green, in 2010-11 that number dropped to just over 40%, with him seeing regular time with Scott Hannan and Dennis Wideman, among others. In those relatively difficult minutes, Schultz fared, well... we'll get back to that in the next section (though it should be noted that Sarge took so few penalties he made Karl Alzner look like a thug, so there's that).

Where Schultz did perform well was on the revamped penalty kill, where he not only saw tough competition, but also posted the best GAON/60 of the team's D's who averaged more than 1:30 of shorthanded time per game (thanks in no small part to his netminders making a lot of saves behind him).

Schultz also played well in the Caps' first-round series against the Rangers, playing five games without being on the ice for a single goal against while leading the victors in plus-minus.

The Bad: Let's face it - Jeff Schultz regressed in 2010-11. As has been the case throughout his still-young NHL career, to get an appreciation for "The Good" from Schultz requires diving a bit deeper than simply glancing at his traditional stats (plus-minus and blocked shots aside). Unfortunately, this time around, the deep dive reveals more bad than good. At even-strength, Schultz was on the ice for as many goals-against as goals-for; the only defenseman who was with the team all season to play more than 21 games and finish with worse +-ON/60 was Tyler Sloan (and if not for a strong PDO, Schultz's numbers would look even worse). His Corsi was pretty lousy, shots-for and shots-against poor, and his offensive rate stats woeful. And despite good numbers on the PK (and with the caveat that he played relatively big minutes on that unit), no Cap was on the ice for more goals against per game than was Sarge.

Back to surface level, Schultz posted the worst offensive numbers of his career, more than halving his goals and assists from a season prior and firing fewer shots on goal per game than during any of his NHL seasons to date.

Finally, Schultz seemed to hit a wall in the second round of the playoffs, as he was on the ice for six Tampa goals (two on the power play) in the four games. Only Marcus Johansson (minus-5) had a worse plus-minus against the Bolts than did Sarge.

The Vote: Rate Schultz below on a scale of 1-10 (10 being the best) based on his performance relative to his potential and your expectations for the season - if he had the best year you could have imagined him having, give him a 10; if he more or less played as you expected he would, give him a 5 or a 6; if he had the worst year you could have imagined him having, give him a 1.

The Discussion: Schultz's 2010-11 season: aberration or something more? How much of his down year can be attributed to a lack of playing time with Mike Green (or any consistent partner for that matter), or on losing a month of training and 25 pounds in the off-season while battling mononucleosis? Where does he fit in going forward? What will it take for him to earn a '10' next season?

Poll
How do you rate Jeff Schultz's 2010-11 season?
10
4 votes
9
3 votes
8
8 votes
7
34 votes
6
76 votes
5
123 votes
4
189 votes
3
157 votes
2
41 votes
1
53 votes

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First things first, DMG must be crushed he didn’t get the honor on this one.

A kitten on fire, a baby in a blender, both sound as sweet as a playoff surrender.

by Rob Parker on Jun 8, 2011 11:02 AM EDT reply actions  

D’s got bigger fish to fry this week…

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by J.P. on Jun 8, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Poti, then Schultz, then … oh.

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by EmilyB on Jun 8, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Heh. No, not that.

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by J.P. on Jun 8, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t want to talk about it!

Kidding aside, I went ‘4’. Given Schultz’s frame, I figured the offseason mono would hurt him, but even with that factored in, he was worse than I expected.

by David Getz on Jun 8, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Remember, haters – if you thought Jeff Schultz sucked last summer and thought he sucked this past season, he met your expectations and you should be voting 5’s or so…

For me, he greatly disappointed overall, mostly from a consistency standpoint. He’d have good stretches and bad ones. A lot of that, I think, is on the constant pair juggling (hey now), but ultimately it’s on him.

I’m leaning 3.

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by J.P. on Jun 8, 2011 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

(And probably most disappointing to me, he far too often was precisely what the doubters say he is – slow, clumsy and soft.)

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by J.P. on Jun 8, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

ding ding ding. 4 from me. failed to meet even my relatively low expectations.

by CarlosLA on Jun 8, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by J.P. on Jun 8, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder how long it will be until the robo-voters make an appearance.

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by timmyv38 on Jun 8, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

And the question is, where will they/he/she swing? Seems like Ovi is the only one they blasted with 10’s

by Brainumbc on Jun 8, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

When will CAPTCHA be incorporated into the voting process?

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 8, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Poti voting ending up odd.

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by apk3000 on Jun 8, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s so even across the board. Very weird.

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by capsyoungguns on Jun 8, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

3

After the numbers he posted last season, we overrated him. He didn’t meet my expectations at all, lofty as they were, especially from a consistency standpoint.

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by sami426 on Jun 8, 2011 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

6

Honestly, he seems to invisible on the ice at times that it’s hard to know WHAT to expect form him because you really don’t remember him.

So he did more or less about what I expected so I’d probably go a 5. I’ll give him a +1 for having to shuffle line mates so many times and doing well on the PK which is what we really needed.

Faulting him for dipping a bit offensively doesn’t make too much sense since he’s more expected to be a stay-at-home kinda guy like Alzner. I’ll ignore his +/- since I attribute most last year’s +/- dominance to the offensive players just doing better.

by Brainumbc on Jun 8, 2011 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

3

Definitely regressed, but I think he’s earned some patience and the opportunity for a bounce-back year before getting railroaded out of town (seems like I’m saying that a lot in these wraps). I’m also definitely in the “mono fucked him” camp. The guy has a very high metabolism, is rail thin, young, and has already talked about how hard it is to keep weight on. Hopefully a health off-season, as well as the filling out that is normal as you age, will help him next season.

Going forward I think he fits as a perfect 4/5 that can eat PKTOI and be reliable against relatively difficult competition at ES (understanding that Carlznerson are still going to eat the top line minutes). A ten from him would be 20+ points and the D he showed last year, but probably a little stronger and more assertive.

A kitten on fire, a baby in a blender, both sound as sweet as a playoff surrender.

by Rob Parker on Jun 8, 2011 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Missing nine games with a busted thumb didn’t help. To that point, he wasn’t having a bad season.

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by ThePeerless on Jun 8, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d say the combination of the mono and the busted thumb is what did him in, as you guys pointed out.

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by CapsFan75 on Jun 8, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

he’s a 5th defender on a good squad, so if he’s getting 2nd pairing minutes, you’ve got a roster problem.

by CarlosLA on Jun 8, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was a 2nd defender on a Presidents’ Trophy squad, so I’d say some recalibration is in order.

A kitten on fire, a baby in a blender, both sound as sweet as a playoff surrender.

by Rob Parker on Jun 8, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

c’mon, we can play this game all night. He was a 2nd defender on a team that got bounced by a crappy MTL team.

This year, Marjo ended up as the 2C for most of the season on the Eastern Conf champs. That doesn’t mean he’s pushing towards a championship if he’s your 2C.

If you’re satisfied with 55 as your 2nd pairing D, then I think you’re the one in need of recalibration. If you’re satisfied with him as your #2 defender, then you’re nuts!

What can I say, shultz’s lack of mean streak brings out my mean streak. ’-)

by CarlosLA on Jun 8, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just don’t see any possible definition of “good squad” that doesn’t include the team that wins the Presidents’ Trophy, even if they aren’t the team best built for the playoffs (or the team unlucky enough to lose).

A kitten on fire, a baby in a blender, both sound as sweet as a playoff surrender.

by Rob Parker on Jun 8, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

“of defenders” was implied. A good squad of defenders.

Interesting that Schultz’s votes are so tightly clustered, since I think he’s among the players the regulars on this site are most divided about.

by CarlosLA on Jun 8, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

3

Schultz is a better dman than he showed this season. I think his brutal offseason and Green’s injuries played a part, but he just didn’t play as well as he is capable of. He started the season strong, with a bunch of games where he wasn’t on for a single goal against, but seemed to fade later in the season. I think this season was an aberration, and that what we will get from him is a bit below what we got in ‘09-’10.

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by timmyv38 on Jun 8, 2011 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

FYI

He scored more game winning goals this season than he has in his entire career combined

1

WOOOOO!!! That’s gotta be worth sumthin’!

by Brainumbc on Jun 8, 2011 11:15 AM EDT reply actions  

3

Which is a testament to how high my expectations were for the guy. Keeping Schultz’s off-season issues, his early season injury, and Green’s injuries in mind, I was teetering between a 3 and a 4. His TBL series (while not entirely his fault) made me round down.

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by SeattleCapsFan on Jun 8, 2011 11:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Would the second half of his season possibly been different if he hadn’t rushed back from the hand injury? Or were tehy unrelated?

A kitten on fire, a baby in a blender, both sound as sweet as a playoff surrender.

by Rob Parker on Jun 8, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I actually was just about to say something to that effect. I think him coming back so soon for the WC was a terrible idea, but I’m not sure that it was still having an impact as late as the playoffs. IIRC it was (supposedly) a clean break on his hand, and he’s not a shooter. Granted I’ve never been a hockey D-man, but I’d venture to guess that a hand injury isn’t quite as debilitating as a D-man compared to say, Backstrom up front. And it shouldn’t have impacted his conditioning like a head or lower-body injury might.

So while I think the early second half can be attributed to the hand, I don’t think his late-season performance should be excused by it.

Also, the fact that I got to watch Shutter Island “with” him (read: sitting two rows in front of him at the movie theatre) in December really made me want to round up. But I was rational and did not let my personal opinions cloud my judgement.

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by SeattleCapsFan on Jun 8, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well if he had sat more time he could have spent more time in the gym and on conditioning, so maybe it impacted more than just the hand.

And for a D like Schultz, having a bum hand (does anyone remember if it was left or right?) is going to impact your ability to poke check and be strong on the stick. It won’t matter on his shot, but it could hinder his already suspect passing and the ability to battle for pucks in the corner. It just depends how much pain he was still in after he returned.

A kitten on fire, a baby in a blender, both sound as sweet as a playoff surrender.

by Rob Parker on Jun 8, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shutter Island came out in theaters in Feb 2010. Maybe you rounded up in last year’s Wrap? :)

by Cluster on Jun 8, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Wish I knew which part of that comment was getting rec’d…

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by J.P. on Jun 8, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Angry Pirate for me.

Armareddon.

by D'ohboy on Jun 8, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I knew why you were rec’ing it.

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by J.P. on Jun 9, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I had to give him a 4. As someone who has been a strong Schultz supporter there is no question he had a disappointing year. I am sure his having mono in the offseason and not having a regular playing partner were contributing factors but I am beginning to believe that his lack of foot speed is going to prevent him from being a top end defenseman. I always believed he would be a top 4 defenseman but I am having my doubts. Maybe he will have a bounce back season; lets hope so. Otherwise he is going to be a 3rd pairing defenseman next season.

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by 4capitals2 on Jun 8, 2011 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

This isn’t necessarily directed just at you, 4caps2, but I don’t particularly like the distinction of calling him top 4 or 3rd pair next year. He could very well be 3rd pair, but in my opinion that just means we’ll have a deep and talented D corps. If he plays on the 3rd pair, but gives us minutes that are of similar quality that you’d expect from a second pair guy, then I’m happy. As long as we have a bunch of D that give us good, NHL quality, minutes, we’ll be alright. You don’t have to force guys into relatively arbitrary slots.

A kitten on fire, a baby in a blender, both sound as sweet as a playoff surrender.

by Rob Parker on Jun 8, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Further to that point, the Caps had six D’s last year who averaged between 17:15 and 18:23 of even-strength TOI. Obviously there was a difference in the competition Alzner and Carlson faced, but I think that, ideally, Bruce (ahem) would want to roll three pairs more or less, and then send some guys out for the PP, some for the PK and a few for both. Second- versus third-pairings shouldn’t matter much.

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by J.P. on Jun 8, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Right. If you’ve got a first pair, Carlznerson, that does all the heavy lifting, and you can put two pairs together that are “second pair” caliber, that’s an ideal situation. And having Mike Green be on a “second pair caliber” line is a bit of an understatement.

A kitten on fire, a baby in a blender, both sound as sweet as a playoff surrender.

by Rob Parker on Jun 8, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you had, for the sake of argument, 52-55 and 6-23… who gives a toss which is nominally second or third? The only way it starts to matter is if 4 (or someone similar) is in the mix and you have to start hiding, or at least consciously matching, a third pairing, which then defines a second pairing a bit more clearly.

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by J.P. on Jun 8, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Spot on. And 52/55, 6/23 means you have a lot of freedom to switch up the special teams usage without leaving your guys too gassed for ES.

A kitten on fire, a baby in a blender, both sound as sweet as a playoff surrender.

by Rob Parker on Jun 8, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks so solid on paper…

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by J.P. on Jun 8, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

So I take from this message chain you feel somewhat strongly that 23 will be brought back into the fold?

by cainoo7x on Jun 8, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, actually. I feel it’s unlikely that he will be. But in a Poti-less perfect world, that’s the way I’d see it working out.

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by J.P. on Jun 8, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

So in your mind the Caps are going to be counting on somewhat significant contributions from either Poti or Erskine next season? Or do they promote from within or go sign someone else in free agency?

by cainoo7x on Jun 8, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would expect the opening night roster to have 27, 74, 52, 55, 6, 4 and 89 on it on D, with 3 on (LT)IR. But that’s just a guess. Maybe they get a guy (actually, I think they will if 3 isn’t getting any better). Maybe 3 retires. But if you held a gun to my head and made me predict… there it is.

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by J.P. on Jun 8, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d hope 89 and 3 get sent through waivers as soon as they can. LTIR does us no good for 3 and 89 is a waste of everything related to an NHL roster spot. The team clearly does not trust him. Last year they called up Alzner, a rookie, for game 7 instead of dressing 89. This year they called up Collins and then dressed him over 89. How many more times do they need to take a look at him?

A kitten on fire, a baby in a blender, both sound as sweet as a playoff surrender.

by Rob Parker on Jun 8, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed. Completely. More my thoughts on what’s likely to happen than what should happen.

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by J.P. on Jun 8, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey you gotta try and save some of that ire for Friday’s Rink Wrap!

by cainoo7x on Jun 8, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think I’m going to be around much for Friday. We’ll see though. Either way, I don’t have a ton to say about Sloan anyway.

A kitten on fire, a baby in a blender, both sound as sweet as a playoff surrender.

by Rob Parker on Jun 8, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

6 Tough to judge a D-man solely on stats. His play was adequate and judging by the Caps’ successful shift to defense, he contributed nicely. Still slow as molasses, but solid all around

by hockeypunk on Jun 8, 2011 11:52 AM EDT reply actions  

With the way Schultz and Backstrom regressed this year, it’s obvious that getting a big contract is the problem. : )

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by bagace on Jun 8, 2011 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

8

I either a light evaluator or a push over or had low expectations.

I don’t see him as having a disappointing year. I didn’t expect him to repeat his +/- from the previous year. I think he was a steady presence on the blue line and is a good 3/4 defenseman for the Caps. I didn’t expect him to be 1/2 and I got a bit more than I was expecting.

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by STLSpidey on Jun 8, 2011 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

How does Schultz compare to combrably compensated defensemen?

by 8vechkin on Jun 8, 2011 12:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

He gets paid almost the same as Hanan doesn’t he? He kind of reminds me of an inexperienced version of Hanan.

by Brainumbc on Jun 8, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, Schultz is at 2.75, Hannan was at 4.5.

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by Rainbow, Kitty, Beer on Jun 8, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Woah- I didn’t ask the question about Schultz v. Hannan, but I asked the more general question he/she was responding to.

I meant my general question as a conversation starter for those with more hockey knowledge than me (as in, any hockey knowledge) because I see experts here all the time comparing similarly compensated players and their performance.

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by 8vechkin on Jun 8, 2011 2:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

GOD wasn’t jumping on you – it was on Brainumbc for posting a clearly wrong fact. Your question was actually a pretty good one, I think.

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by timmyv38 on Jun 8, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was on Brainumbc for posting a clearly wrong fact

Posting a wrong fact? I thought I was asking a question.

by Brainumbc on Jun 8, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

3

Maybe could have gone 4. For whatever reason, JS55 regressed this season, particularly at even strength. IMHO, I don’t think his skating was quite as good as last year, and I believe that might be because he wasn’t making the right decisions quickly out on the ice. It goes without saying that Jeff isn’t the greatest skater, but in 2009-2010 he seemed to mitigate that by making good decisions, being positionally sound and doing some good defensive work with his stick. Whether it was injury/fitness, not having a consistent pairing, or just a lack of confidence, it didn’t work out the same way this year. Going forward, perhaps ‘09-’10 was the aberration and this season is more indicative of the player Schultz is. Perhaps my expectations were a bit to high then coming in to this year, but none-the-less, he didn’t live up to them, particularly at even strenght, so I gave him a 3.

How Jeff earns a 10 for next season will depend on whether I baseline him based on this season or ‘09-’10. I’m hopeful he can rebound so a 5-6 for next season would be for his even strength quailty of play to return to ‘09-’10 levels. To get a 10, he has to do that, get 20 points and be more physical.

by cainoo7x on Jun 8, 2011 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I went 2. I had high expectations for Big Nasty and he let me down in just about every way. I expect him to bounce back next year.

by caps19 on Jun 8, 2011 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

went for a 5.

Mono, rushing back from injury, inconsistent partners made reading “The Good” sort of pleasantly surprising, so that was a +1. While I had lower expectations for Schultz coming into the season, he definitely regressed more than I imagined he would. -1. So a 5.

by Vinn on Jun 8, 2011 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

3

I had big expectations, as I have long been one of the supporters of Schultz. He just didn’t look very good this year overall.

I DO think this season was more of an aberration than true regression. I think that part of that regression is due to less consistent pairings, part is due to his most frequent partner (green) not having anywhere near the season (offensively) that he has had in the past, and part is the mono. And of course, part is just that the entire team seemed “off” for at least stretches this year, with a lot of career-worst type performances.

Going forward, I think he is still exactly the player he has been…a top PK performer, top 4-caliber, stay-at-home defensive d-man. To earn a 10, he really just needs to be a shutdown guy with a solid /- and strong PK numbers, and play well THROUGHOUT the playoffs, not just in spurts or against “favorable” matchups. Points are kinda moot to me in evaluating a great season for JS, but I guess in terms of “the best season possible” I would say 5 goals and 30+ pts. But those numbers aren’t necessary for me to rate him highly if he does all the other things well.

by GusDaMan on Jun 8, 2011 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Going forward, I think he is still exactly the player he has been…a top PK performer, top 4-caliber, stay-at-home defensive d-man.

Here’s the interesting point…I think he’s been the top-4 D for one season, and a clear 3rd pair guy in another season (and more, if you go back further). Which is the “real” Schultz?

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by red army line on Jun 8, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

If this was a 29-year-old player, I’d say that the “top-4” season was a fluke. But since he’s still developing as a player and has some mitigating factors weighing on this past season’s regression, I’d say… jury’s still out.

But I’d also say, to a point made above… what is a “top-4 D” vs. “a clear 3rd pair guy”? If the question is whether he has to be hidden/protected or not, I’d say no. Does that make him a top-4 D?

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by J.P. on Jun 8, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

My somewhat arbitrary answer is that a top-4 D needs to be able to outshoot his minutes (and a top pair D will outshoot difficult minutes). Schultz has shown progress in the possession game, but needs to show a bit more, I think.

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by red army line on Jun 8, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

What do you mean by “outshoot his minutes?”

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by J.P. on Jun 8, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can’t speak for RAL, but I would use that term to mean that they’re plus-players in either Corsi or Corsi Rel.

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by Knee high to a duck on Jun 8, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That’s what I figured. And obviously, 55 was balls there this year.

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by J.P. on Jun 8, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep. I could forgive him if he had moderately difficult zone starts or was playing with Boyd Gordon, Matt Hendricks, and the like. Unreliable as they are, though, the QoT metrics show good teammate support for Schultz. Maybe it’s just a matter of Schultz not being especially adept offensively, in which case, he shouldn’t get ice time with the good offensive players, but I think Schultz has it in him. Maybe he ever won’t QB a single PP, but his first pass and smarts are good enough for a better possession game.

That’s my take, at least.

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by red army line on Jun 8, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I guess by his categorizations, 27-74 would be top-pair, 52 and 6 top-4 and everyone else… other. I’d by that from this past season.

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by J.P. on Jun 8, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Outshoot His Minutes

Actually shoots the puck at some point during his minutes on ice?

Sorry.

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by OldPhil on Jun 8, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d argue he was top pair last season, and 2nd pair this season. Even in ‘08-’09, I think he was showing top 4 potential. Before that, he wasn’t used much – so I’d say he’s clearly shown the “real” Schultz to be top 4, more likely a 2nd pair than 1st.

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by timmyv38 on Jun 8, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

He had a pretty rough season this year. To be on the Eastern Conference’s best regular season team and be dead even in goals for and against at even strength is… not really good.

That said, I agree – certainly top-four potential, most likely not top-pair potential.

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by J.P. on Jun 8, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

General question: Is there a D on the team whose success or failure is more dependent on being matched with the right type of partner (if not a specific player) than Schultz?

I’d love to see some numbers on him with different partners. Neil? Patrick? Harris?

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by J.P. on Jun 8, 2011 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Alzner seems to be the same way. Maybe it’s the stay at home guys in general.

A kitten on fire, a baby in a blender, both sound as sweet as a playoff surrender.

by Rob Parker on Jun 8, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d agree, but can’t remember Alzner ever playing with anyone else.

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by J.P. on Jun 8, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Early on I think he had to play with Fahey, before he and Carlson became the top pair. Also, last year he was frequently on the third pair with 4 or 89.

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by Rob Parker on Jun 8, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I was kinda snarking on my (little) pet peeve that 27-74 never spent any time apart. Obviously on the one hand, why would they? On the other hand… plenty of reasons.

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by J.P. on Jun 8, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here’s something, although it’s a year old. The WOWYs I did to start the year had Green and Schultz both slightly better playing together, but Schultz and Poti with higher Corsi% separated than together (don’t know about QoC or zone starts, think Neil has the former).

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by red army line on Jun 8, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d actually asked him about who he likes playing with a while back (training camp 2009, I believe) and he said Poti and Jurcina. Surprised me.

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by J.P. on Jun 8, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Neil? Patrick? Harris?

that was (Dr.) Horrible

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Jun 8, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

For me, he gets a 10 if he goes 30-30. Points and plus-minus. It would tell me he is rebounding from this season, and that (given he gets no power play time) that he’s contributing to a better 5-on-5 team-wide performance than the Caps had this season. He’s never going to get within a time zone of plus-50 again.

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by ThePeerless on Jun 8, 2011 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

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I had lofty expectations for him after his break out year in 2009-10 and he didn’t deliver. He wasn’t a bad defenseman during the season, but for playing 72 games, I would have expected a little more offense, and certainly more than a +6. He didn’t take a lot of penalites, which is good.

His play in the Rangers series was above what I expected from him during the season. He was outstanding in those gamed and really looked like he rebounded. Against Tampa, well, they figured out how to get around him.

I do expect he will rebound. He’s always impressed me with his smarts and positioning on the ice, and that’s less about talent and more about preparation. I still think he can get his slap shot speed up into the 90s if he works at it as well (esp. with his size and the torque he could get on the stick).

To get a 10 next year… he’d have to get back to his 2009-10 form. Don’t bet against him!

Winnipeg? Winnipeg??? Oy...

by MikeL-Pivonka on Jun 8, 2011 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Off topic a little but in response to the discussion about the defensive makeup for next season and assuming that Hannan is not resigned and Poti does not make a full recovery does anyone here think that Orlov could crack the lineup.

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by 4capitals2 on Jun 8, 2011 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s hard (for me) to see Orlov making the team. A cup of coffee here and there, sure. But not the full season.

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by J.P. on Jun 8, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he’d be one of the first pulled up from Hershey, but that’s it.

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by timmyv38 on Jun 9, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

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I was disappointed by him this year. I had solid and not unreasonable expectations for him to be a top pair with Green. But between his and Green’s injuries he saw a lot of different partners and he never seemed to find a good rhythm in his pairings. I don’t know whether this is because he is still young and developing or if he is not the dominant partner so it’s harder him to adjust. Or maybe he was just having a bad year. I might have gone lower but I cut him slack for the injuries and for his bout with mono last summer.

To get a 10 he needs to work on his strength and conditioning. And his skating. (After all Erskine improved his skating speed last summer with special coaching. And who knows how slow Brooksie would be without his work on skating technique.) I expect Schultz to return to his dominance of last season—in form at least because I recognize that the whole team did remarkably well and unsustainably high in numbers last season. This team needs more than just one solid and top notch defensive pairing next season. He and Green need to be a force again.

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by capsyoungguns on Jun 8, 2011 3:55 PM EDT reply actions  

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Thoughts on his season this year: aosinf asfoi3uhn3ihjynoiyhjhgjmsdggdsjgio.

10 next year? Develop some rapport with Wideman and get back to how he was in 09-10. That’s pretty optimal of what you want for a guy making 2.75m/yr with a shot slower than evolution (yes I stole that from C&B, thank you very much)

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by sydtron on Jun 8, 2011 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

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Big disappointment for an ardent supporter of Double Nickel. I figured there’d be an inevitable boxcar backslide coming off a career year, but here’s hoping the decline is due to injury/illness—says here it is—and he comes back next year to perform at a level close to 09-10. Laced up with Green for a full year, facing softer minutes, could facilitate that. Perfectly fine 2nd pair type, but needs to hook up with John Erskine’s skating guru and stay away from DuPont Circle this summer.

I root harder for the doomed.

by bigonetimer on Jun 8, 2011 4:24 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

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The moment Mike Green disappeared, Schultz looked terrible. It also seemed like he had a lot of “doh” moments, and moments where he ended up putting the puck in his own net.

Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."

Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.

by breaklance on Jun 8, 2011 5:41 PM EDT reply actions  

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He showed less than I expected, but I’ll reduce the deductions due to injury, inconsistent linemates, and overall decline in team scoring.

To get a 10, he’d have to improve on 2009-10 numbers and get more physical – more hits, fewer hugs. I keep hearing that defensemen mature around 25 and have their best years in the 26-32 range – I’d be willing to see if that’s true with Schulz because at 2.75M/yr through 2014, it doesn’t look like he’ll be leaving anytime soon. I can’t see him being in high demand throughout the league, especially with three years left on that contract, so I think we’re stuck with him for now.

by MikeF703 on Jun 9, 2011 7:13 AM EDT reply actions  

I disagree with that, He’s good enough for his salary that the Caps could move him if they wanted to. Look at the other guys in his range.

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