Thursday Caps Clips
Your savory breakfast links:
- The Caps announced yesterday that they've re-upped with Zach Miskovic for next season (one-year, two-way deal at the League minimum salary). [Patriot-News (Leone)]
- Today in "Trade Mike Green," some actual theoretical returns. [ESPN (Button; $)]
- On Brooks Laich. [Hockey Independent (Scriven)]
- Capitals Report rolls on during the off-season. [Capitals Overtime (audio)]
- Reviewing Eric Fehr's 2010-11.[CI (Carrera), with our version hitting the Interwebz in a few hours]
- Alex Ovechkin is the 23rd-most marketable athlete in the world, apparently. [SportsPro Media]
- And the most beautiful Caps goal of the year goes to... [RtR]
- Finally, happy 19th birthday to Evgeny Kuznetsov (who gets a b-day shout-out from his hopefully soon-to-be-former KHL squad).
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From ESPN:
Some of his trade proposals involve getting a “hard-nosed” or “rugged” defenseman back for Green, but I think if you do trade him a Top6 forward would be a better fit, pref a 2C.
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I wasn’t enamored with most of Button’s suggestions, using my interpretation of value. Of course, I’m far from the expert here. I also realize that none of these trades consider the salary cap.
No
Green for Fillpula
Green for Morrow
Green for Regehr
Green/Eakin for Regehr/Bourque or Regehr/Ross
Worth Discussing, But Not Jumping Up and Down
Green and Semin for Beachemin and Ryan
Green for Fistric
Unnamed Goalie and Schultz for Hartnell and Coburn
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He writes he does take the cap into account:
I want to focus on ones that address needs and also involve a likely trading partner, all while keeping an eye on salary cap dynamics.
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But does he really? I thought Ryan had a challenging contract?
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Slightly less hit than Green, if memory serves.
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by Bald Pollack on May 19, 2011 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Then I stand corrected (and am too lazy to check CapGeek). Trade away.
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So $1M less than Semin. Makes it even more attractive.
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As much as I dislike Hartnell he does get the job done. Plus we would be getting rid of Schultz, so I like that trade.
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on May 19, 2011 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I think I’d jump up and down for the Ryan deal, and for Morrow + Fistric (if that could be made to work, though I’ve always had a man-crush on Brenden Morrow).
Green AND Varly AND Schultz for Hartnell and Coburn? No way. And no thanks on Green for Fillpula, Regehr and/or Rene Bourque.
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I think that idea was just Varly and Schultz, no Green.
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on May 19, 2011 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d do it. The Caps can work something out in net, Coburn’s better than Schultz and Hartnell’s a solid player.
I’m not giving Philly the last link in their chain. Let ‘em suffer with their own inability to develop goaltenders (I’d bet a shiny nickel they aren’t signing any FA goalies either, unless they are 2nd/3rd tier, backup types).
All the “no’s” I agree with. Green for Fistric? Straight up? Dear God, no. I can’t see Anaheim parting with Ryan for Semin, even as part of a larger deal.
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More on Fistric (b/c it just popped into my Google Reader).
What lovely symmetry it would be, though, if the Caps had Ryan. The 1 and 2 picks from consecutive drafts with a certain other team having the 2 and 1 picks from those same drafts.
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I read that, and two things came to mind. First, in four seasons, 67 games played is tops in his career. He has had a variety of injuries that contributed to those games missed (although they do not account for all of them) — back, knee, concussion, illness, head… Is he “Mark Tinordi-Lite?” A player of considerable skills at physical intimidation, but who is somewhat brittle (once in five years w/ Washington did he top 60 games played)? For me, that’s the high end. At the low end, he is an upgrade to John Erskine.
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The player fans absolutely despise… until he’s wearing their sweater.
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as a huge fan of Dale Hunter and Dino Ciccarelli growing up, I would be absolutely stoked if the Caps could land Ryan.
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by Sombrero Guy on May 19, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, maybe “stoked” for Perry, but “stomping” your feet for Ryan?
…and, 3…2…1…
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by ThePeerless on May 19, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
yes, and yes.
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by Sombrero Guy on May 19, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree on Green for Morrow and Fistric, but I sensed he was saying one-for-one for either.
Agreed that the Flyers deal makes no sense with Green included. But a 1 + 55 trade for Hartnell and Coburn would be interesting.
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I don’t know if I could go along with a Schultz trade to Philly only because I fear for what those fans would do to him.
“Schultz? Like ‘The Hammer’? And he’s 6-6? This is gonna be awesome!!!!”
And then…
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Whoop. Whoop. (?)
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The upside on Fistric is that when he hits someone, you can say that guy got Fisted.
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by J.P. on May 19, 2011 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
You already have the headline in a file, don’t you after Fistric has a Gordie Howe hat trick in two games straight:
“Fisting is Becoming a Habit.”
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Fist-rec’d
(I actually didn’t because the trackpad on my laptop is surprisingly hard to control that way)
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on May 19, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d take Morrow, easily.
I wouldn’t take Regehr anymore, he’s already on the decline. We aren’t trying to win the 2004 Stanley Cup. We’re trying to win the 2012 Cup.
Fistric? Is he on crack? Ridiculous suggestion. Mike Green for another D, straight up? There’s a real short list of guys that would make sense, Fistric isn’t even on the extended list.
I’d like Hartnell and Coburn, but like Peerless I have no interest in bailing out PHI. If they want Varly, maybe they can have him. Sorry Varly, that pretty much condemns the rest of his career. No way his groin can rebound in that organization.
A kitten on fire, a baby in a blender, both sound as sweet as a playoff surrender.
Also from this:
Looking ahead to free agency, Jonathan Ericsson could be a target of Washington’s as well.
Have to say I am against this for one reason: his Penalty Take to Draw ratio is not good, and for an ailing PP WSH needs skaters that get them more opportunities with the man advantage.
Year, Take/60, Draw/60
2010 1.4/0.2
2009 1.1/0.3
2008 1.0/0.6
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I don’t think Ericsson has progressed as the Wings thought he would. And I’d be skeptical of a Swede the Wings were willing to part with.
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Ericsson, btw, is a UFA this summer.
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Would he be a viable 6/7D for the Caps? If he was willing to sign for about he made this season ($900K) I’d be willing to give him a look, except that I don’t know how good he actually is.
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eh. Caps already have a 6/7 D with Erskine.
The big thing is, I’m not sure Ericsson even gets to free agency. Not like the Wings have a lot of options; they may wish to re-sign him as an insurance option.
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They do, but another layer between the Caps and Sloan is a good thing. My worry is that it will end up with Erskine being 6D and Sloan being 7D. A cheap dman being 7D in that situation would be nice.
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If Poti comes back, Caps will have 7 guys ahead of Sloan already. I suppose issue 1 is finding out if Poti will be healthy enough to play.
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Related. I saw these comments on Anaheim Calling the other day.
There’s no telling if Sutton will have a bounce back year and be the physical presence we need him to be or not. Moreover, the Ducks have good prospects who deserve to start getting serious looks. We have enough to start looking at internal options so that we can spend on those forward upgrades. As I said in my last post, I think Brooks Laich should be our top priority and he’s going to want 4 million per from us.
by Daniel AC on May 16, 2011 6:44 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I can agree with that, I don’t know much about Laich, what is it that makes you so keen on him over other players like Fleischmann?
by DavidBL on May 16, 2011 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s so tenacious. He does great work in the corners. He just plays the game the way I remember us playing 2007, plus he has offensive upside. I watch him play, and I think "that’s what Ducks hockey is supposed to be."
by Daniel AC on May 17, 2011 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions
There is being a lot of discussion about BL there recently. They seem to like him a lot.
Brooks Laich is going to get 4 million dollars. I doubt even Burke will go much higher than that. Yes, Laich can play center and wing, but I doubt Burke will overpay to the extent that we can’t match. The argument we need to make is that if he comes here, Laich will get a chance to play with the twins, and or Bobby Ryan. Toronto doesn’t have any talent like that on their roster. Maybe Kessel, but I think Laich would realize how well he’d fit in here. I’ve watched the guy play; he’s secretly a Duck from 2007 who’s been stuck in Washington for too long.
by Daniel AC on Apr 29, 2011 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions
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I keep hearing Brooks Laich and $4 million, and I keep getting the name “Jason Blake” in my head (who also has a $4M cap hit). And I don’t mean that in a good way. Of course, part of Blake’s problems in recent years might be a product of health problems earlier in his career, but his fall in productivity has been rather steep since his signing a $20M/5 year deal, especially as an even-stength player.
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Laich over the last four years:
17.2
12.4
11.3
7.7
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by ThePeerless on May 19, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Shows you what constantly trying to stuff it in the short side will do to your numbers.
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by Rather Bengt on May 19, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey now! This is a family blog… enough of that dirty talk.
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by J.P. on May 19, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
When you start talking comparables, how much weight do you have to give to the continual increase in the salary cap? The guy who signed for $4 mil/year three years ago might be worth $5 mil in today’s cap dollars. And might not be worth that based on statistics since signing the contract, but I’m ignoring that for this analysis. So – is Brooks Laich worth 6% of the cap hit, if the cap is roughly $62 million?
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That is a valid point, but Blake also had much more production than Laich going into his free agent year.
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Blake also shot like 10% higher than his career average. It was a ludicrously moronic contract.
Armareddon.
This is a point I made a couple of days ago. IIRC, holding constant the % of a team’s total cap space, a $4m deal from 07-08 is a $4.72m deal today. So yeah, you absolutely have to take into account cap projections, and with that new TV deal, it’s only gonna go up.
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Yup. I think the $62 million number is what I kept seeing tossed around (about $2 milion from the TV deal?). I know the conventional wisdom is that Ovechkin’s contract will turn out to be a bad deal, but in a few years, if revenues continue to rise (always a big if, I know), it won’t be so bad. In hindsight, the one thing wrong with it is that it ends when he’s 35, not 34. It may not matter down the road (a couple of CBA’s from now), but a career-ending contract at 34 could have been on the horizon, not a series of shorter deals at 35+. A lot of assumptions in that statement, but still a thought worth having, IMO.
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Makes me ill to think we’re already talking about how Ovi’s contract “won’t be so bad” in a few years….and I’m not disagreeing.
It isn’t even anger-inducing. It does not seem to be worth that kind of emotional investment. It might not even be disappointing any more. It is expected.
-Peerless 5.6.2011
So, ultimately, maybe Laich really is a $4m/year player?
by DrinkingPartner on May 19, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
If someone pays him that amount, yes. But it probably won’t be the Caps.
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But it probably won’t be the Caps.
I would not be surprised if they did. I would not rule them out.
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Laich is physical, tough-minded and a solid/good...
offensive contributor, with 48 points this year. How many other Caps meet that description? Losing him would be tough. Is he worth $4 million? Maybe not, but he is a good player and a free agent and that usually means somebody will overpay.
by slipperyice on May 19, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Jonathan Ericsson: DO NOT WANT.
Even without Hannan and working under the assumption that Poti’s career is finished and Green stays, Ericsson is borderline to make that top 6. I’d take Green, Wideman, Carlson, Alzner, and Schultz over Mr. Irrelevent, and I’ve got my fingers crossed on one more good season for Erskine.
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You'd rather have Schultz than a guy who is a pretty
valuable component of the Red Wings and still young? I’d go with the man from the motor city over schultz.
by slipperyice on May 19, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
That would be a bad decision.
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Ericsson is not a “pretty valuable component of the Red Wings.” Just because Ericsson has a winged wheel on his chest does not make him the better player. In my opinion, Schultz has earned a bounce-back year, and Ericsson is what he is: a borderline 6th D man.
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also, Ericsson isn’t that young: he’s 27. Schultz is two years younger, with 4.5 NHL season under his belt. Ericcson has two seasons, and small parts of two more seasons.
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And Ericsson plays tambourine rather than guitar
Which makes him the Peter Tork to our Mike Nesmith.

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by Rather Bengt on May 19, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
What prom was that?
It isn’t even anger-inducing. It does not seem to be worth that kind of emotional investment. It might not even be disappointing any more. It is expected.
-Peerless 5.6.2011
by macvechkin on May 19, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I am coming off as rather harsh on the guy, aren’t I?
But (I can’t resist), I watch 40 Red Wings games a season and Ericsson sucks every time!
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by RedBirdie on May 19, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ericsson was on the ice for 2 more goals against than you’d expect from an average player (despite being shielded from the toughest competition) and 9 more goals for than you’d expect. So either he’s a great offensive defenseman, or…
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by Gould Old Days on May 19, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Last season, Ericsson and Schultz average almost exactly the same amount of average even-strength ice time per game (17 minutes and change). But while Ericsson was on ice for 55 ES goals against, Schultz was on for only 47. And the Wings could hide Ericsson behind a better top-four — Lidstrom, Stuart, Rafalski, Kronwall (although Ericsson actually had more ES avg ice time than Lidstrom and Rafalski). He got about half the shorthanded ice time Schultz got. He would not be able to hide like that as a replacement for Schultz.
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by ThePeerless on May 19, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
And Ericsson was on the ice for just about the same number of power play goals against (11) in his 105 minutes of PK time as Schultz (13) in 176 minutes. That’s huge — it’s a lot harder to hide a lack of defensive skill on the PK, when there’s only four (or fewer) of you out there. Even one bad defender turns into a lot of goals out there. And the Caps didn’t give up a lot of power play goals when Schultz was on the PK.
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by Gould Old Days on May 19, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
And Schultz has upside, whereas Ericsson is a lot closer to having established what he is at the NHL level.
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From Hockey Independent:
With the potential to be a 25-30 goal scorer in the NHL, coupled with being just 27 years old, Laich will be looking for a raise in 2011 with potential market value reaching $4 million per season.
Laich has scored 21-25 goals three straight years, so he already is a 25-goal scorer in my mind. The questions in my mind are:
1. Does he take the next step to 30-goals?
2. Is all the other stuff he does (leadership, PK, PP, etc.) worth $4 mil if he doesn’t?
The answer for me is no to both.
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If he’s reliably at 25 goals (which I’m not sure he is), I think that “all the other stuff” makes him very close to a $4m player, and probably worth that to the Caps, depending on the term of the deal.
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Yeah, I’m not convinced either that he’s a consistent 25-goal scorer just because he’s done it once. And if the price tage is above $3.5 for Brooks, I’d be inclined to let him walk. Then again, you can’t look at this stuff in a vacuum. What are the salary comparables for a 28-year old forward who should consistently get you 20+ goals and 50+ points?
How about Rene Bourque as a comparable?
2008-09: 40 pts/59 games
2009-10: 58 pts/73 games
2010-11: 50 pts/80 games
After the 2009-10 season, I believe he signed an extension which expires after 2015-16. The cap hit is 3.33MM per year. Bourque has shown that he isn’t as durable as Brooks, but then again, few are. While for every player you worry about handing out long term deals due to the chances a players becomes injured, I think Brooks is a guy that you should give a longer term deal to. If he goes to the open market, the Caps have no chance. Someone will give this guy 4MM per year, the Caps can’t afford to do that which is pretty much common knowledge to this point.
My question is how do you replace him if he walks? The poster that put up quotes from Anaheim Calling said that one of their fans said
He’s so tenacious. He does great work in the corners. He just plays the game the way I remember us playing 2007, plus he has offensive upside. I watch him play, and I think "that’s what Ducks hockey is supposed to be.
Well sorry, that’s not just Ducks hockey. It’s how hockey should be played. For a team that has trouble giving a consistent effort on a nightly basis, lacks leadership, grit, and doesn’t always go to the dirty areas to score goals, wouldn’t the Caps be targeting Laich if he hadn’t been playing for them the last 6 years?
by JimCareyFanClub on May 19, 2011 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions
If he can score 18-20 and play defense like he did this year, I think that’s worth $4 Million to the Caps. There aren’t many players like that out there.
Especially if he claims the 3C job and Johansson proves himself to be a legit 2C. I think that opens up a lot of doors.
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by Gould Old Days on May 19, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Kinda nuts that we’re talking about Laich as a 3C when there are probably teams out there who covet him as a first-liner. Man, are they going to be disappointed…
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Isn’t disappointment the essence of free agency? Aside from Knuble, what recent free agents can we really say have lived up to their contract?
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Not to duck the question, but I choose to read “Isn’t disappointment the essence of free agency?” as if it were in a beauty product ad.

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by J.P. on May 19, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Buying the services of unrestricted free agents is the worst bargain in any pro sport. It’s somewhere between hoping you’ll win the grand prize for a Powerball ticket and overpaying for bad wine at the 7-11.
Yeah, you can take your chances on either from time to time, but it is not a good thing to do regularly.
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by ThePeerless on May 19, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
and sometimes you get to experience that wining Powerball feeling followed by feeling like you just got ripped off at 7-11. See: Brendan Morrison.
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Laich should be a critical signing for GMGM for all the reasons mentioned – aggressive, offensive upside, leadership, character, play in all zones and situations and don’t forget, few penalties and even fewer of those would be considered dumb penalties by situation or zone. I think the organization (or BB) is too often enamored with individual skill rather than overall team play/chemistry. He is one of the rare things that are right on a team gone horribly awry.
Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him...
My problem with Laich is that much of his goal scoring is directly tied to the PP. Each of the last 4 seasons, he has scored 11-13 ES goals. On most teams, I think that would make him a 18-20 goal scorer – not worth $4M. I love his grit and toughness, but I just don’t see him being worth what he will likely be offered.
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•Alex Ovechkin is the 23rd-most marketable athlete in the world, apparently
I never would have thought F1, track and field and even cricket had more of an international marketing presence. /TMYK
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I haven’t even heard of 7 or 8 of the names before him.
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on May 19, 2011 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions
F1 is huge in the rest of the world. Stuff like T&F is also big. Kind of surprised about cricket, but the former British Empire was pretty large.
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Cricket is the 2nd most popular sport in the world, I think (maybe not in geographic area of interest, but India is ~1/6 of the world by itself).
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by red army line on May 19, 2011 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I was in India right after they won the World Cup. It’s hard to imagine from here, but the frenzy was unreal, as was the focus on the IPL, which has a very short season and one-game per night.
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We’re too North America-centric. The world is a big place. Think Africa/Asia. I was surprised at the list, too, at first until I gave it a little thought.
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I’m not sure how wondering why a Russian-born athlete playing an international sport (and happens to also do it professionally in North America) is less visible from a marketing perspective than Sebastian Vittel is considered “too North America-centric,” but to each their own.
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by Bald Pollack on May 19, 2011 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Because it’s hockey? I’m not deriding the sport, but as international as it is, it’s still pretty much North America and Europe (yes, Russia is largely in Asia, but that part of the county is pretty barren, isn’t it?). Just for fun, I just took a look at Formula One Racing’s schedule, and here are some of the locations: Shanghai, Singapore, New Delhi, Sao Paolo.
All I’m saying is that if this particular rating is looking at the number of eyeballs watching a sport or other entertainment, the larger number of eyeballs are not on this side of the globe.
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Fair enough.
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by Bald Pollack on May 19, 2011 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Honestly I think that list is suspect. Peyton Manning appears nowhere on it, and Mark Sanchez, Tim Tebow, and Sam Bradford are on it. Look at all the commercials Manning does, it seems like he should be on there somewhere, at least before Sanchez, Tebow, and Bradford. Tom Brady is at 18.
Peyton Manning isn’t an athlete. He’s a TV spot actor who also happens to play football.
I am a hockey fan first, and a Caps fan second.
by iwearstripes on May 19, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Quoting “insider” Craig Button:
I don’t think Alex needs to make drastic changes to his training program, nor do I think the Caps have to make drastic changes to their roster.
For me, the first part of this statement makes me question the second part.
by Acer Jonesy's Laughker on May 19, 2011 7:55 AM EDT reply actions
Stay the course! Perhaps we can face the Rangers in all four rounds next year!
It isn’t even anger-inducing. It does not seem to be worth that kind of emotional investment. It might not even be disappointing any more. It is expected.
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by macvechkin on May 19, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Good choice for Caps goal of the year. Kind of surprised Ovi’s OT winner against the Isles didn’t make the list. Even more surprised that Matt Hendricks of all people on this team won the award.
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on May 19, 2011 7:55 AM EDT reply actions
when Hendricks broke out that funky leg kick fake the first time, all of hockey-watching North America did a collective jaw drop. Yeah, it’s not Alex Ovechkin craziness, but that’s a sick move by a grinder.
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Let’s talk zone starts.
Neil has a nice post up over at ESPN ($) about how Maxim Lapierre’s ability to take D-zone draws has freed up Ryan Kesler to not take them, and thus take a more active and impactful offensive role. (This was most evident in the NSH series, as Vigneault used Kesler in the D-zone a lot vs. CHI and has seemingly gone back to it a bit against SJ – by my count, Kesler has taken 40% of VAN’s D-zone draws this series, and his O-to-D draws are 17:14).
Anyway, you all know how important I think it is to Nick Backstrom’s (and ultimately the team’s) success that the Caps have him taking fewer D-zone draws and more in the O-zone. So the questions are many:
1. Is it a personnel issue here that prevents BB from giving NB better zone starts, or does BB not recognize the importance and the impact here?
2. Would a heavy reliance on Boyd Gordon be enough to free up Backstrom? Remember, Kesler’s VAN’s 2C – whether or not he’s taking D-zone draws, Henrik Sedin is always perfectly free to take O-zone draws (in Game 1, i.e. the close one, Sedin took 13 O-zone draws… and one in the D-zone, and I wonder if even that was the result of an icing). Kesler, Sedin and Lapierre are essentially VAN’s only guys taking draws right now.
3. If the answer to 2 is “no” (which it is), do the Caps need to turn their third line into a grind line of sorts, with a pivot who can take a lot of D-zone draws and basically leave the scoring to the top-two lines (which essentially commits MoJo to the 2nd line)? And, if so… did they make a mistake in trading David Steckel (and that 2nd round pick), in hindsight? Or is the answer to get a 2C who can take D-draws? (It would seem to me that puts you in a similar pickle to the one you’re in now, since Alex Semin will be starting so many shifts in his own zone and you’d really just be freeing up the top line and Chimera-MoJo-Fehr (or whoever the third line is)).
I think where I come out on the above is that you move Johansson up to the second line, bring in a grinder-y center for the third (hell of a lot cheaper and easier to find than a 2nd-line center anyway), and turn the top two lines loose. Thoughts?
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by J.P. on May 19, 2011 8:04 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
I think the problem was both the 2nd and 3rd lines. Bruce rarely seemed to let them take the D zone draws. My perception was that it was always the top line or the Steckel/Gordon line. I think you have to get the other 2 centers to be respectable in the dot and/or do more 1 man quick changes.
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Right. It was always the 1st or 4th line taking D draws, and it murdered Backstrom’s O-zone opportunities. So is the answer “status quo,” a relatively even split of D-zone draws among all centers, or shifting from “1st or 4th line taking D draws” to “2nd or 4th” or “3rd or 4th” (and if so, which one)?
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Or is the answer to get a 2C who can take D-draws?
I don’t think so. If you are going to keep Semin, then I think you have to give him as many O-Zone opps as you can. I think MJ90 with a year of NHL exp could flourish with those types of minutes too.
Plus, I think if you were to give 8-19-22 north of 60% of OZone starts, that helps counteract the “aging” of Knuble, and could make that top line viable again.
did they make a mistake in trading David Steckel (and that 2nd round pick), in hindsight?
We discussed this a bit when it happened. I questioned who would take the DZone draws. I don’t think it was a mistake because BB wasn’t really using Steckel in that way, Backstrom was still taking the lion’s share of the d-draws IIRC.
I think this strategy only works for the Caps’ if it is an extreme scenario, a la Sedins and Kesler. Give your top two lines 60-70% of OZone draws.
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Agreed wholeheartedly on the first point (as noted in my original comment).
Agreed on the second point, too – by using Steckel and Gordon on the same line, BB typically negated the value of having both in the lineup.
I think this strategy only works for the Caps’ if it is an extreme scenario, a la Sedins and Kesler. Give your top two lines 60-70% of OZone draws.
The Caps’ analog to Sedins/Kesler right now is Johansson in the Sedin role and Backstrom in the Kesler role. That is, Johansson is taking almost exclusively offensive zone draws and Backstrom is the one we’re talking about freeing up. This makes no sense – Backstrom (and, by necessary extension, Ovechkin) should be in that Sedins role, getting all the O-zone starts they can handle. That, of course, presents the problem of who’s going to pick up those “Kesler” D draws. Maybe it’s Brooks Laich (though $4m for a 3C is pricey). It’s not going to be MoJo, which means you might as well put MoJo and Semin together as your 2nd line and fill the third-line spot with that D-draw pivot.
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by using Steckel and Gordon on the same line, BB typically negated the value of having both in the lineup.
But, but, but. . . He’s a Jack Adams winner! If you knew anything about the game, you’d be in it.
Armareddon.
by D'ohboy on May 19, 2011 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Johansson is taking almost exclusively offensive zone draws
Which require you to actually win the faceoff in order to get full value from them.
Armareddon.
Of course. But it’s much less costly to lose one that far from your own net than on your goalie’s doorstep, so there he’d start. Even when he’s got plumbers on his wings. So even when he did win them, the result wasn’t likely to be very good. In other words, the team would work hard to get an offensive zone draw – which basically results in “a 10-15 second power-play” if you win the draw, and “[f]or several seconds, the rate of shots allowed is as high as it is on a 5-on-3” – only to punt away that advantage while you’ve got a 52.5% faceoff guy centering the League’s premiere goal-scorer sitting on the bench. Good coaching.
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If memory serves, even a lost offensive zone draw results in a higher shot rate than, say, a won neutral zone draw.
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by red army line on May 19, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
after winning a defensive zone draw, your team will allow more shots on goal in the next 30 seconds than if you had lost a faceoff in the neutral zone.
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You know I think Laich is the answer at 3C. I’ve been saying that since the Backstrom writeup. Who out there would do better?
There’s another obvious answer too: Marcus Johansson needs to get better at faceoffs this summer. I’m sure he’s aware of it and working on it. Just spreading the responsibility will go a long way to solving the problem.
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by Gould Old Days on May 19, 2011 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m still learning the starts concept, but with Steckel/Gordon for most of the year, was there less of an involvement from Gordon to alleviate Nick’s D-Zone draws than expected/presumed?
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by Bald Pollack on May 19, 2011 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I think JP clears this up in his comment above the quote.
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Bruce was usually skating 39 and 15 together, so while he had a great 4th line for D-zone faceoffs, it was still just one line, and he couldn’t start the 2nd/3rd lines (MJ90/MP85 or MP85/MJ90, with JA44 later on), so the rest of those draws fell to Backstrom. Laich could take those draws, but, until very late, he was largely a wing at ES. It’s part of the reason that some favored a Marty Reasoner instead of a Jason Arnott at the deadline – a Reasoner would’ve theoretically (depending on how Bruce used him) freed up Backstrom and bumped MoJo to 2C rather than improving the 2nd line directly but leaving the team in the same spot, essentially, on who was going to take the D-zone draws. (Plus, reasoner would’ve been cheaper.)
And the team couldn’t really go with Steckel on the 3rd line b/c a) MoJo seemingly wasn’t ready to be a 2C and b) Steckel sucks. So it was what it was. But it needs to change going forward.
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Cool. And yeah, getting a grinder 3C while letting Johansson have the year at 2C sounds bueno.
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by Bald Pollack on May 19, 2011 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Sedin took 13 O-zone draws… and one in the D-zone, and I wonder if even that was the result of an icing
I would be willing to bet if you take out the d-draws the Sedins take due to icing, their OZone start jumps to over 85%. Vigneault just doesn’t start them in the d-zone if he doesn’t have to.
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Vigneault just doesn’t start them in the d-zone if he doesn’t have to.
Which, just to hammer home the point in case anyone got stuck in the weeds, is actually what a coach should do to maximize the talents of his elite offensive players (especially when some of them aren’t big fans of this whole “playing defense” thing).
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Was this a veiled fire BB recommendation? :)
JP- I think you are on to something re: 3rd line center and creating depth. I almost feel you are recommending creating a “checking line” 3rd line in the traditional sense, which i think is smart and goes a long way toward answering the question: what do they (realistically) to get better? One of the things I’ve wondered about in reading the zone starts argument advanced by Neil and others is what it says about the effectiveness of the 3rd, Fourth, and possibly second lines. Coaches like to talk about gaining three zones and generating chances. I wonder if the backstrom zone starts deficiency is related by the inability of the other lines to move the puck from the d-zone to the o-zone, generate chances and end up with a face-off. This of course would allow 8-19-22 to come off the bench fresh. Focusing on changes that allow the 3rd line, and to a more limited extent, the 2nd and 4th lines to take D draws and at least gain 3 zones also seems realistic given the cap situation, UFA market, and the likelihood of “getting value” in a trade for one of the stars.
Was this a veiled fire BB recommendation? :)
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It is the difference between “strategy” (sitting down with your coaches in the midst of an eight-game losing streak and saying, “we have to change things”) and “tactics” (standing behind the bench and deploying your assets and adjusting given the situation on the ice).
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Which are not to be confused with “strategery,” such as coming out to talk to the press after every bad, ugly loss and blaming the players for not working hard enough.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on May 19, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
I want to rec the shit out of this.
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by SeattleCapsFan on May 19, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
You expressed your support so eloquently I couldn’t help but rec it myself.
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I’m a lady, what can I say.
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by SeattleCapsFan on May 19, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Which, just to hammer home the point in case anyone got stuck in the weeds, is actually what a coach should do to maximize the talents of his elite offensive players (especially when some of them aren’t big fans of this whole "playing defense" thing).
In general, yeah, probably, but I can’t help but feel there needs to be a balance (diminishing returns in terms of economics). And, on top of that, AO-19 are so good that they could probably face slightly better players without much of a drop off in production. At least, that’s my thinking (no way of knowing for sure unless BB tries).
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by red army line on May 19, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not sure it’s a diminishing returns question as much as an IE-style efficiency question.
I would imagine the simple answer is this:
- Have a guy who’s good at faceoffs and plays with good (offensive) linemates (i.e. Backstrom) take most of the O-Zone draws.
- Have a guy who’s good on draws but players with offensively poor players take defensive draws (i.e. Gordon)
- Have the guy who’s not great at either take the neutral zone draws (MarJo).
Btw, after this discussion, I’m not really sure there’s a good fit/role for Jason Arnott on this team next year unless you want a lot more of the same. Granted, that “same” was a lot of wins after the acquisition, but I don’t think it’d be the wisest of investments.
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Agreed. If he isn’t trusted to take faceoffs in the defensive zone, then he’s part of the problem, not part of the solution.
He’s Mike Modano
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by Gould Old Days on May 19, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Arnott was ~54% in the dot on defensive zone faceoffs last year.
For comparison, Lapierre was ~56%, Kesler 57% and Malhotra 64(!)%
I think a lot of it though comes down to BB’s trust level. I just don’t get the sense he trusts anyone else but Backstrom for those draws.
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Agreed, but I’d add that it has as much to do with who Arnott’s wing was as Arnott – Bruce no likey Semin in the D-zone (which is all about trust, as you note).
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why doesn’t Bruce like Semin in the d-zone? His stupid penalties are usually o-zone. Aren’t there fancystats that show Semin to be a good defensive player?
by vtcapsfan99 on May 19, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Semin’s effort is inconsistent so I don’t think BB trusts him on any given shift, unless it’s one of those clear Hot Sasha games. How much do you think BB looks at fancystats?
A kitten on fire, a baby in a blender, both sound as sweet as a playoff surrender.
How much do you think BB looks at fancystats?
A lot more than he lets on.
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Neil do you have some fancystats to back up Semin’s defensive strengths? I thought you had posted on this issue before. Or maybe it was someone else here on Japers.
by vtcapsfan99 on May 19, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Here’s me on Semin’s D from waaay back in Sept. 2009:
http://www.japersrink.com/2009/9/3/1013741/alex-semins-defense
As with all things Sasha, when he puts his mind to doing it, he’s quite good at it.
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Thanks, I’ll check that out, even though it’s old. I looked up his 5-on-5 Goal Against/60 for this season, he’s second on the team (1.73) behind Laich (1.69) with 40 games played. Marco Sturm is actually #1 in this category with 1.55 if you look at 30 games played..
by vtcapsfan99 on May 19, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I think there are guys in the front office that look at those stats, but I don’t think BB spends a ton of time looking at them.
A kitten on fire, a baby in a blender, both sound as sweet as a playoff surrender.
If you consider scoring chances a “fancy stat,” then I think he looks at them a ton.
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If Boudreau considers scoring changes a “fancy stat” I think that’d tell you all you need to know about his statistical knowledge.
by David Getz on May 19, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Ok I know there was a big stink when Bruce acted like he didn’t know what Corsi was at last year’s caps con, but I believe someone else posted that wasn’t true and BB was deflecting the question. You are right though, once you are in Bruce’s doghouse, you stay there. I don’t remember which game it was, maybe game 4 against Tampa, and they had the goalie pulled at the end and 6 guys on the ice and Semin wasn’t one of them. That seemed kinda odd to me. It’s one thing to punish him like that in overtime after he takes a stupid penalty, but if he hasn’t done anything dumb in the game, why would you do that?
by vtcapsfan99 on May 19, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Thinking same thing
I drew the same conclusion. Money is better spent shoring up 3rd line/re-signing gordon for draw help. It probably means signing gordon for draw help as well.
Also thought the “locker room presence” stuff is way over-rated. At some point, you have to contribute on the ice if you want to have credibility in the room. Arnott is past that point.
whatever presence we have in the locker room isn’t amounting to much other than a few series wins over the lousy Rangers in 4 years.
It isn’t even anger-inducing. It does not seem to be worth that kind of emotional investment. It might not even be disappointing any more. It is expected.
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I’ll throw a name out there: Marcel Goc
UFA this year coming off a $775K contract.
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Goc is coming off shoulder surgery and missed the last third of the season or so, no? Guess that could keep him cheap…
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He does have some injury concerns, but theoretically he would be used in a specialized role, which may or may not help.
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Shoulder surgery courtesy of one of our own.
I’d take him, try to keep Laich, put out feelers on Reasoner and Fidler. See if we can’t give ourself several options of players that can take draws, and play on lines higher than the 4th.
A kitten on fire, a baby in a blender, both sound as sweet as a playoff surrender.
I’ve seen KHtaD throw his name out there along with Reasoner and a few others who I can’t remember. Seems like the type of player we need.
Matt Bradley: He has sensitive skin, no?
Marty Reasoner is someone else I could get on board with, and wrote the same on RMNB close to trade deadline.
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Reasoner’s a bit long in the tooth, but since we’re more or less going through the scrap heap, it’s not terribly likely we’re going to find anything bright and shiny.
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If it were my decision I’d be willing to roll the dice for a year. He’s only 34. I have a new appreciation for early thirties….
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Yep. And a year buys you another year of MoJo learning faceoffs and maybe he’s your 2012-13 3C (strange as it is that my implication is that he needs to evolve from a 2C into a 3C).
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Allowing for Kuznutz, I was assuming.
by DrinkingPartner on May 19, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps (though Kuznetsov may be a more likely fit as a replacement for Semin on the wing).
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Only took 135 comments to get here. I would have taken the under.
:-)
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No way – it’s Danny St. Perreault’s job to lose!
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by J.P. on May 19, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
a 5’8" player with a yellow stick who scores points in only the first 3 or 4 games he plays and spears guys?
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by ThePeerless on May 19, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
loo-teh-nant Steve…
oh, Frenchie…
loo-teh-nant Steve…
oh, Frenchie…
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by ThePeerless on May 19, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If all I need is a distributor for my car (or whatever new fangled dee-vice they use in these cars these days), I might not go to the dealer, but to the junk yard.
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by ThePeerless on May 19, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thoughts on Vern Fiddler?
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by Bald Pollack on May 19, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Depends if Rome is burning or not.
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by Rather Bengt on May 19, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
You just know if the Caps acquired Fiddler that the first time he scored a goal top shelf that Joe B. would say something like “Fiddler goes roof!”.
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by Rather Bengt on May 19, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m highly confident that Goc gets re-signed to a 2 or 3 year deal here. He’s too good at too many things for Poile to let go at the minimal price he’ll command.
Lemme quote the late, great Colonel Sanders. He said "I'm too drunk to taste this chicken."
by Chris Burton on May 19, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
further to that point
Lemme quote the late, great Colonel Sanders. He said "I'm too drunk to taste this chicken."
by Chris Burton on May 19, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Lemme quote the late, great Colonel Sanders. He said "I'm too drunk to taste this chicken."
by Chris Burton on May 19, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
This just in
Ben Eager is still an ass.
(An ass who gets flashed by Nucks fans (NSFW video) when in the sin bin, but an ass nonetheless)
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Man, Vancouver has WAY better Red Rockers.
Release the Mackan!
by Killer_Carlson on May 19, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Owner’s Corner
A reminder, the Washington Capitals will host an Owner’s Corner with founder, chairman, majority owner and chief executive officer of Monumental Sports Ted Leonsis today at 1 p.m. exclusively on WashingtonCaps.com.
The session will feature Leonsis answering questions from fans regarding the Washington Capitals and their off-season plans for the upcoming campaign. Fans who are interested in participating can still submit, via email, their questions to Ownerscorner@washcaps.com or on AOL instant messenger at "CapitalsReport".
Q: Who will the Caps have taking the majority of defensive zone faceoffs for 2011-12?
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The pre-screened nature of this is a bit off-putting, but understandable.
That said, has the owner made himself available for Caps-related questions to media (other than one hand-picked radio show) since the season ended?
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pre-screening means maybe, maybe, we won’t have to hear those REALLY dumb questions that the incredibly delusional but self-important OFB “I’ve been a fan since 1974 and thus know more about hockey than anyone else in the universe” types always ask.
and that’s about the only positive I can take from it.
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Related, I wish Shatz would come over here and elaborate/post it:
Got an email from a dude who wants to start boycotting the #Caps until Leonsis cares about winning instead of just making money.
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by Bald Pollack on May 19, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Martin Shatzer, who does the DCU SBN page and posts weekend content on SBNDC (apologies for the excessive abbreviations).
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by Bald Pollack on May 19, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I probably should’ve known that, eh?
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Maybe at the next brown bag lunch my friend.
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by Bald Pollack on May 19, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Should be interesting since he hasn’t said jack in about two weeks, other than a radio interview which was basically lip service.
But at least he has his Wizards to be excited about.
It isn’t even anger-inducing. It does not seem to be worth that kind of emotional investment. It might not even be disappointing any more. It is expected.
-Peerless 5.6.2011
Really? His answers to pre-selected questions from fans should be interesting?
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You give me the questions, I’ll save time and give you the answers now. We can start by guessing which questions are going to be preselected.
“What is the approach going to be in the off-season?” (Corollary: “What do you think about GMGM/BB’s jobs?”)
(We will be patient and unemotional and address what the team needs to take the next step. I have confidence in GMGM and he decides about BB. But BB’s track record in this league is undeniably strong. Jack Adams and highest active win%.)
A kitten on fire, a baby in a blender, both sound as sweet as a playoff surrender.
by Rob Parker on May 19, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
O/U on how many Qs submitted were about third jerseys?
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Before or after we remove every email that starts with “Fire” or “Trade,” since they’re declaratory statements and not questions?
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Ted, do you think the Caps will: a) move a big name on the roster, b) sign a big free agent, or c) stand pat?
If you think a), wave your arms to the left.
If you think b) wave your arms to the right
If you think c) wave them over your head
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on May 19, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
Perfect. He should have to answer all of his questions using FanWave.
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(Or whatever that silly shit is called.)
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Why not? Their play for stretches this year could be summed up with dismissive wanking.
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by Bald Pollack on May 19, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
26 min in and I have to say I am completely underwhelmed so far.
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Yes, but where are you relative to your expectations for it?
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by J.P. on May 19, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
3. I am underwhelmed a lot more than I thought.
About 20 min has been spent on how great 24/7 was and now ticket prices.
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That’s really surprising, given that they could pick which questions to answer.
Wait, no it’s not.
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Now they are asking him what’s it like to own all three teams and how will he divide his time.
Is this really happening? And by “this” I mean me listening.
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Now we are on the feelings of the two people (out of 101) that don’t get Ovi’s autograph because he had to get a haircut and go somewhere.
Leonsis is asking for “a little bit of empathy.”
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just imagine the questions they weeded out……
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I’d bet quite a few of them are better than the ones they didn’t. And a whole ton of them are even dumber.
A kitten on fire, a baby in a blender, both sound as sweet as a playoff surrender.
“Why don’t our fans or Red Rockers flash their cans at opposing players in the sin bin?”
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That has to have been one of the dumber things I’ve seen (written about, I didn’t actually see it). Did she think she’d get a date or something? As opposed to international ridicule?
Don’t try to figure Sasha out. Just ride the wave.
Maybe she was inspired by the FLA fan of a few years ago. Women show their boobs for all sorts of reasons. If cheap plastic beads gets it done then I’m not even going to question the motivations anymore.
A kitten on fire, a baby in a blender, both sound as sweet as a playoff surrender.
by Rob Parker on May 19, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
At me? Or the truth behind my observations?
A kitten on fire, a baby in a blender, both sound as sweet as a playoff surrender.
The latter, of course. You are usually pretty reasonable.
Don’t try to figure Sasha out. Just ride the wave.
Just making sure. I’ve been shot for being the messenger before.
A kitten on fire, a baby in a blender, both sound as sweet as a playoff surrender.
Oh believe me, I know how that goes, at least professionally.
Don’t try to figure Sasha out. Just ride the wave.
That’s why I try not to talk at work…
A kitten on fire, a baby in a blender, both sound as sweet as a playoff surrender.
Try telling a client they need to write a check to IRS for $200,000. There’s no way to get out of that one.
Don’t try to figure Sasha out. Just ride the wave.
“Where can I get a Groupon for SnagFilms?”
“Do you think a Red Rocker will go out with me?”
“Does Slapshot taste better sauteed or fried?”
“Where did you get those banners?….I want to do my family room in ‘Caps banners’”
“You said there are 29 teams that would like to be in the Caps’ position regarding goaltending. Do you think all of them will win a Cup before the Caps?”
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on May 19, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
"You said there are 29 teams that would like to be in the Caps’ position regarding goaltending. Do you think all of them will win a Cup before the Caps?"
Would have loved that question.
by kingbonehead on May 19, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Does the team have a slogan yet for next season?
Stay furious?
We’re due?
Let’s get lucky?
We really want to win / somehow please show us how?
It isn’t even anger-inducing. It does not seem to be worth that kind of emotional investment. It might not even be disappointing any more. It is expected.
-Peerless 5.6.2011
“The Window opens next year”
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on May 19, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
“Pray for the bounces.”
A kitten on fire, a baby in a blender, both sound as sweet as a playoff surrender.
“Are You There God? It’s Me, Ted. Just one Cup, pretty please?”
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Now they are talking about Leonsis’ role on the NHL finance committee. I would like to meet the fan(s) that submitted the question: What’s it like being on the NHL Finance cmte?
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That’s where I had to call it. And his suggestion that it should be important to fans that he’s on that committee was totally vapid.
Takeaways from Leonsis chat so far:
1. He owns the Verizon Center.
2. He wants Baltimore fans to be STH.
3. He liked 24/7.
4. He thinks a radio post game show is important for those that can’t go to games.
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BREAKING
Leonsis just said that despite BB cursing up a storm in 24/7, Boudreau DOES NOT curse at or curse in front of Leonsis.
"Shots aren't the important thing. Scoring chances are way more important than shots." - Bruce Boudreau
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by NGreenberg on May 19, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh God, he also thinks we want a better “in-game experience” at the Verizon Center. Not the actual game; the crap they do during time-outs. Please, Ted. Back away from the gimmicks….
"I remembered when he said that and I kind of looked at him during the warm up and told myself that I got to shut these guys out tonight." - Michal Neuvirth, 02.06.11.
Let me say I’m digging this liveblog.
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by Bald Pollack on May 19, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d like to think I can slam a noun and a verb together to make some sort of sense, but there are not words in the English language that captures how I feel about that Q and A. I had a chill as I was listening to it. It was like watching the dawn of CapsMedia, Inc., where the news is always sunny about the Caps and any media outside the Caps umbrella will never tread.
And for the love of God, can we retire that whole, “we’re in the bottom third of ticket prices” nonsense? There is no more irrelevant comparison from a fan’s perspective. Hockey tickets (or any other sport, for that matter) are not amenable to price shopping in that way. It’s not like I can say, “ooh, Caps tix are priced too high, I’ll buy Hurricane tickets.” It is a silly dodge of an argument. The only relevant comparison is what a fan pays for Caps tickets next year versus what they paid this year and the year before, and price inflation for Caps tickets has been rather substantial.
If you've read this far...seek help.
price inflation for Caps tickets has been rather substantial.
Based on the projected price for next year (the price of my tickets for a new STH now), I’m seeing a 100% increase over four years (I bought in for 2008-09).
Don’t try to figure Sasha out. Just ride the wave.
And you have it good. Trying to by single gamers is murder, and that’s if you get lucky and get screwed by third parties.
It isn’t even anger-inducing. It does not seem to be worth that kind of emotional investment. It might not even be disappointing any more. It is expected.
-Peerless 5.6.2011
Well, I’m going to assume you’re not trying to buy 41 single game tickets. I started out selling some off simply because 41 games is just too many. Now I feel I have to do it to justify having them in the first place.
Don’t try to figure Sasha out. Just ride the wave.
Not just with the Caps, but the only way it’s cost effective anymore is to split season tickets with people. I know my brother-in-law and I wouldn’t mind doing just that.
It isn’t even anger-inducing. It does not seem to be worth that kind of emotional investment. It might not even be disappointing any more. It is expected.
-Peerless 5.6.2011
Fehr’s Wrap is up on the front page.
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Dick Ebersol has resigned from NBC Sports. Does anyone think this could improve the sports viewing experience, addition by subtraction?
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/20/sports/dick-ebersol-resigns-from-nbc-sports.html?hp
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where’s Becca and the weagle confetti? HUZZAH!
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should have traded him while he still had value.
by kingbonehead on May 19, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone know anything about his replacement, Mark Lazarus?
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This is Comcast putting one of their own guys in. Just SOP.
"I remembered when he said that and I kind of looked at him during the warm up and told myself that I got to shut these guys out tonight." - Michal Neuvirth, 02.06.11.
Lazarus was woo’ed away from the Turner TV empire, iirc. He hasn’t been at Comcast/NBC all that long.
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True, but it’s still Comcast going out and pre-selecting who they wanted, and once they obtained control of NBC, putting their guy in. My hatred of Comcast does not allow me to give them any benefit of the doubt.
"I remembered when he said that and I kind of looked at him during the warm up and told myself that I got to shut these guys out tonight." - Michal Neuvirth, 02.06.11.
my hatred of what Dick Ebersol did to sports broadcasting waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay outweighs my hatred of Comcast.
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Somewhat related, in all of this is mention about the Olympics and whether Comcast/NBC even bids on them for Sochi. If they don’t have the Winter Olympics, any thoughts on how it might affect the league’s thinking about letting the players participate? I have to think that a network that doesn’t have the NHL rights isn’t going to give hockey the same love and attention.
Don’t try to figure Sasha out. Just ride the wave.
ice dancing. USA-Canada got bumped for ice dancing. if that’s love and attention, I’d hate to see what disdain and contempt looks like.
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New content up on the front page regarding trading Miguel Verde.
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Miguel Verde’s= Tim Horton’s of Mexican food?
"...what're you gonna do?"
by Rainbow, Kitty, Beer on May 19, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Crawford gets 3 year, $8 million deal
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Not a good deal, I think. Crawford is really unproven. It won’t be crippling, but if this year was better than normal for Crawford, he’ll be massively overpaid.
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