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Scoping Out the (Potential) Enemy

As we head into the final weekend of the 2010-11 regular season, a lot of things remain up in the air - not the least of which, of course, is where the Capitals themselves will finish.

And while that is (mostly) in their hands, something that's completely out of their control is which team they draw for their first round playoff match-up. With just one or two games left for each team, there are four different possibilities: the Buffalo Sabres, the Carolina Hurricanes, the Montreal Canadiens or the New York Rangers.

A look at each of the potential opponents after the jump...

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BUFFALO SABRES
92 pts; 7th in East with 2 games remaining
17% chance of 6th, 73% chance of 7th, 8% chance of 8th, 3% chance of 9th*

Season Series: Caps win, 3-0-1


SeriesGFPPOppPPGFSHGFPP%
Capitals 3-0-1 13 10 4 0 40%
Sabres 1-2-1 10 14 4 0 28.5%

Key Players
Thomas Vanek: 5 points (3G, 2A) in 4 games
Tim Connolly: 4 points (4A) in 4 games
Ryan Miller: 2.32 GAA, 0.924 save % in 3 games vs Washington
Alexander Semin: 5 points (2G, 3A) in 4 games
Nicklas Backstrom: 5 points (2G, 3A) in 4 games
Jason Chimera: 3 assists, +4 in 4 games

Did you know? The four power play goals the Caps have scored against the Sabres is tied for second-most they've scored against any opponent this year. The only team against whom they've scored more power play goals is Philadelphia (six).

Why Caps fans should fear this matchup: Because three of the four games between the Caps and Sabres this year have been one-goal games, including two that required overtime. Because the Sabres have scored the most goals of any of the three teams in the mix. And because Ryan Miller is capable of stealing a game or two all on his own.

Why Caps fans shouldn't fear this matchup: Because the second-biggest Cap-killer this year, Jordan Leopold (1G, 3A in 3 games) is out of the lineup with a broken finger. Because Shaone Morrisonn will be in the lineup...if he's not a healthy scratch, at least. And because the Sabres appear to be one of the few teams against whom the Caps can score power play goals, with four in four games.

*****

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CAROLINA HURRICANES
89 pts; 9th in East with 2 games remaining
63% chance of 9th, 34% chance of 8th, 3% chance of 7th*

Season Series: Caps win, 5-0-1


SeriesGFPPOppPPGFSHGFPP%
Capitals 5-0-1 15 15 1 1 7%
Hurricanes 1-5-1 9 26 2 0 8%

Key Players
Tuomo Ruutu: 5 points (2G, 3A) in 6 games
Jussi Jokinen: 4 points (2G, 2A) in 6 games
Alex Ovechkin: 8 points (2G, 6A) and +7 in 6 games
Nicklas Backstrom: 5 points (4G, 1A) in 5 games

Did you know? All but one of the six games between the Caps and 'Canes was a one-goal affair, and in all but one of the six games the winning team scored (or "scored" via the shootout) three goals.

Why Caps fans should fear this matchup: Because Eric Staal may have been relatively quiet this year but still has almost a point per game against the Caps in his career. Because Tuomo Ruutu already broke one of the Caps' defensemen. And because Cam Ward has a Stanley Cup and a Conn Smythe trophy to his name...i.e., he's pretty good when the games count the most.

Why Caps fans shouldn't fear this matchup: Because the one win the Hurricanes have managed against the Caps came via the shootout. Because Joe Corvo will be trying to defend against Alex Ovechkin. And because Alexander Semin loves to score on the 'Canes, with more goals (25) and points (42) against Carolina than any other team in his career.

*****
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MONTREAL CANADIENS
94 pts; 6th in East with 1 game remaining
83% chance of 6th, 17% chance of 7th*

Season Series: Caps win, 3-0-1


SeriesGFPPOppPPGFSHGFPP%
Capitals 3-0-1 11 20 3 0 15%
Canadiens 1-3-0 4 17 0 0 0%

Key Players
Brian Gionta: 2 goals in 4 games
Tomas Plekanec: 20 points (10G, 10A) in 24 career games vs. Washington
Semyon Varlamov: 0.96 GAA, 0.968 save % and one shutout in 2 games (3-0-1, 1.45 GAA, 0.950 save % career vs. Montreal; 3-3, 2.41GAA, 0.908 save % in the playoffs)
Marcus Johansson: 2 goals in 4 games
Marco Sturm: 3 points (1G, 2A) in 2 games

Did you know? The Canadiens are one of two teams the Caps have shut out twice this year (the other being Pittsburgh), and the Caps have allowed just five goals in the four games vs. Montreal.

Why Caps fans should fear this matchup: Because they've already solved the Caps once in the playoffs and play a similar style to the one that was so effective a year ago. Because Carey Price has held his team in playoff contention despite having an injury-depleted defense in front of him. And because the Bell Centre continues to be one of the toughest buildings in the NHL.

Why Caps fans shouldn't fear this matchup: Because while the Caps struggled against Montreal last year, foreshadowing a tough playoff matchup, they've dominated this year's season series. Because Semyon Varlamov has better numbers against Montreal than any other team. And because the power play that was beyond ineffective against the Habs last spring has clicked in the four games this year.

*****

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NEW YORK RANGERS
91 pts; 8th in East with 1 game remaining
7% chance of 7th, 59% chance of 8th, 34% chance of 9th*

Season Series: Rangers win, 3-1-0


SeriesGFPPOppPPGFSHGFPP%
Capitals 1-2-1 6 15 1 0 7%
Rangers 3-1-0 17 13 4 1 31%

Key Players
Brian Boyle: 7 points (3G, 4A) in 4 games
Henrik Lundqvist: 1.34 GAA, 0.955 save % and 2 shutouts in 3 games
Brooks Laich: 3 points (2G, 1A) in 4 games
Mike Green: 13 points (5G, 8A) in 16 career games vs. NYR

Did you know? Two of the more lopsided games in the Caps' loss column came at the hands of the Rangers, as they were outscored 13-0 in those two games. Through two games the Rangers scored three more goals than either the Lightning or the Hurricanes did in their entire six-game series against the Caps.

Why Caps fans should fear this matchup: Because the Rangers have shown the ability to be both offensively explosive and defensively stingy - and have done so twice against the Caps this year. Because while the Caps are masters of the late comeback, the Rangers have yet to lose a game this year in which they've led after two periods. And because Henrik Lundqvist is Henrik Lundqvist.

Why Caps fans shouldn't fear this matchup: Because with Ryan Callahan out of the lineup, the Rangers are missing one of their better offensive talents, a strong penalty-killer and a team leader. Because the Rangers have yet to face the new, improved Caps. And because Henrik Lundqvist may be Henrik Lundqvist...but Matt Bradley is also Matt Bradley.

*All percentages via sportsclubstats.com

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Awesome post. Thanks.

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by EmilyB on Apr 8, 2011 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree. This was oustanding down to the very last drop. By far the best “Who could it be?” post I’ve read on the Internet thus far.

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by Scoops on Apr 8, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re-posting from Clips, odds that the Caps face the following (per Sports Club):

NYR – 53.2%
CAR – 30.5%
BUF – 14.5%
MTL – 1.8%

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by J.P. on Apr 8, 2011 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

This years’ Rangers are my personal least favorite of these matchups

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by Icebat on Apr 8, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, did you watch that game against the Trash last night? The Rangers are to be respected, but we should clean their clocks… Seriously. If we have trouble, we don’t deserve to move on.

by marks4java on Apr 8, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

They looked absolutely miserable yesterday.

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by smutsboy1 on Apr 8, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

No I didn’t, but I know they had another crappy game recently against…. Buffalo wasn’t it(?) so that does sound pretty consistent with their play of late. I do think they have more potential upside than the other options.

TSN’s power rankings have them above the Caps so really that’s all we need to know right?
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by Icebat on Apr 8, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

i’m not sure you can call their performance recently consistently spotty. they had a hell of a comeback against the bruins.

by j762 on Apr 8, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the Thrash had our number all season, so just because they beat the Rangers doesn’t give me any indication we could be them as well. I’m with Icebat… without our secret weapons Federov and 2008-09 Matt Bradley, I’m eerily fearful of the Rangers right now. If only we could bequeath them our home ice advantage… they’re a lot more terrible at home.

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by Scoops on Apr 8, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great stuff here.

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by twistedlogic on Apr 8, 2011 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Nice post and legwork....

but as I’ve said before and I’ll say it again.

Who cares who we play? If we can’t beat any of them in any given round, we don’t deserve the Cup.

...duhhh....what's a goal?

by RedskinFan4Life on Apr 8, 2011 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Of course not, but it feels like an eternity between now and when the playoffs start, and it gives us something to talk about.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well… matchups matter. For example, if you’re going to make a long playoff run, you need to stay healthy, so you’d want a less-physical team early on or even more importantly the team that you feel gives the Caps the best chance at a quick series (enough of these seven-gamers already!).

Sure, the Caps can beat (or lose to) anyone, but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t have preferences as to which “anyone” they face.

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by J.P. on Apr 8, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

People care. People care so much I’ve been posting the daily match-ups since March 1. Maybe you don’t’ care, but that doesn’t take away from the fact that potential match-ups are a rather popular topic.

And I quite enjoy seeing all this info in one place, rather than having to go and track it all down myself.

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by RedBirdie on Apr 8, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

And may I add that I’ve looked forward to your daily update on the match-ups all month long, RB!

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by bagace on Apr 8, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks! I keep posting them because you guys keep chatting about them.

and may I say, I look forward to seeing your sig each day :)

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by RedBirdie on Apr 8, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I enjoy looking at them as well. It’s intriguing to see how things might shake out.

...duhhh....what's a goal?

by RedskinFan4Life on Apr 8, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

only two more posts left!

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by RedBirdie on Apr 9, 2011 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I care.

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by alisterio on Apr 8, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

5 v 5 SF/60 and SA/60

BUF: 32.3 for, 29.6 against

NYR: 29.2, 29.3

CAR: 29.7 32.9

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 8, 2011 11:31 AM EDT reply actions  

WAS: 29.8, 28.2, fwiw.

Give me Carolina.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 8, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d love to see the numbers over the last month or two. Not sure how much season-long totals matter at this point.

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by J.P. on Apr 8, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Last 35 games would be nice. I’m wondering if Mr Greenberg has that data in a spreadsheet, because I don’t know how to get that data even by poring over game logs?

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 8, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do but don’t have access to my SQL server at my “real job,” but can check later.

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by NGreenberg on Apr 8, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

You should toss a nice Rails front-end on there and expose #fancystats to the whole world. www.fancystats.com would be next to CapGeek in everyone’s frequently visited sites.

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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Apr 8, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless some 300lb biker named Fancy has a tattoo parlor and has already taken the domain…

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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Apr 8, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

That made me laugh—nice mental image!

by capsfan4 on Apr 8, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look forward to it. You never disappoint.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 8, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, and if you could throw in ES-Tied Fenwick% while you’re at it…

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 8, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go to btn search for recent comments by vic ferrari…theres a player shot script he updated. You can look up the relevant game numbers easily enough.

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by red army line on Apr 8, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fenwick For/gm, Fenwick Against/gm (total) since Feb 27 (roughly game 20932):
Buffalo: 36.3, 35.4 (50.6%)
NYR: 32.3, 33.2 (49.3%)
CAR: 35.2, 38.3 (47.9%)
Washington: 35.8, 33.2 (51.9%)

(score tied)
Buffalo: 57.4%
NYR: 47.5%
CAR: 47%
Washington: 53.1% —>now that’s what I’m talking about.

Here’s a quick glance at NYR’s team Corsi by game…looks inconsistent.

Schedule probably plays into this too, given how few games we’re looking at. I’ll post a look at the opponents shortly.

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by red army line on Apr 8, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sweet. Sample size is a little small – according th shrpsports.com, we’d need to go back to Jan 18 to get the final 35 games of the season.

However, those numbers start to tell the story. Buffalo looks like they are to be avoided, and Carolina looks like a good draw.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 8, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just going for trade deadline. The Caps got a lot better with the three acquisitions, especially Wideman, it seems.

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by red army line on Apr 8, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man, I was really stoked about the D corps with the addition of Wideman. Such a bummer he’s not going to be able to go…

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 8, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sabres: @Rangers, @Canes, @Flyers, @Wild, @Pens, @Bs, @Leafs, Sens, Canes, Thrashers, Preds, @Habs, Cats, Devils, @Leafs, Rangers, @Caps, @Canes, Bolts

Rangers: Bolts, Sabres, Wild, @Sens, Flyers, @Ducks, @Sharks, Isles, Habs, @Pens, Cats, Sens, @Bs, @Sabres, @Isles, @Flyers, Bruins, Thrashers

Canes: Cats, Sabres, @Hawks, Thrash, @Caps, Jackets, @Sabres, Leafs, Isles, Sens, @Bolts, Bolts, @Caps, Habs, @Isles, Sabres, Wings

Caps: Isles, Blues, @Panthers, @Bolts, Oil, Canes, Hawks, @Habs, @Wings, @Devils, @Flyers, @Sens, @Habs, Canes, Jackets, Sabres, @Leafs, Panthers

For what it’s worth, in terms of these possession metrics, if you had to group the opponents into three classes (each class with ~ten teams):

Good teams: Hawks, Nucks, Flyers, Pens, Habs, Wings, Bolts, Devils, Predators, Flames, Sharks
Okay teams: Blues, Kings, Jackets, Bruins, Coyotes, Isles, Panthers, Sabres, Caps, Thrashers
Poor teams: Sens, Ducks, Avs, Isles, Canes, Stars, Leafs, Wild, Oilers

Just using Objective NHL’s Fenwick% score tied numbers for that. Cutoff between good and okay is 52%, okay to poor 48%.

Breakdown, good-okay-poor teams faced, followed by home-road:

BUF: 6-6-7, 8-11

NYR: 6-6-6, 10-8

CAR: 5-8-4, 11-6

WSH: 7-5-6, 9-9

I think I counted right.

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by red army line on Apr 8, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

So you’re saying that we might be a better team thatn BUF, NYR, or CAR? Hope you’re right.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t know about Buffalo, but I think this team is better than NYR, and better than Carolina by a longshot.

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by red army line on Apr 8, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carolina by a longshot?

What this post mostly neglects is past playoff performance and coaching staff. All 4 potential opponents have key players (i.e. goalies) or head coaches that have made it farther in the playoffs than the Caps in the past 5 years alone. The Canes will almost always be a dangerous matchup in the playoffs because they play as a team and play with their hearts on their sleeves. The last 3 times the Canes made the playoffs? Stanley Cup Finals, Stanley Cup Championship, EC Finals. The fans, the community, everyone comes together with a humble expectation for success and a subtle confidence in pulling the surprise.

Like a typical Caps fan, your short-sighted nature over emphasizes regular season performance which has been the Caps downfall the past 4 playoff seasons. It’s amazing that most Caps fans still don’t respect lower seeds and their ability to pull it together when it counts the most.

For your own sakes, I hope the team at least changes its attitude this year so you too can taste the sweet nectar of playoff success…

by tarheelicane9 on Apr 8, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

So the fact that the ‘10-’11 Caps beat the ‘10-’11 ‘Canes 5 of 6 has no impact on how likely the ’10-’11 Caps are to beat the ‘10-’11 Canes?

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you know? All but one of the six games between the Caps and ’Canes was a one-goal affair, and in all but one of the six games the winning team scored (or “scored” via the shootout) three goals.

every game was hard fought…most coulda gone either way. so maybe some impact, but not as much as the typical snobbery of a caps fan would expect

by tarheelicane9 on Apr 8, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it’s Caps-fan-snobbery saying the Caps are a better team than the Canes. I think it’s objectivity. It wouldn’t be snobbery for Canucks fans to say they are a better team than the Stars, either.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

it’s not a matter of who is better. The Caps are definitely more skilled. it’s a matter of the EASE at which Caps fans think their teams will slice through lower seeds EVERY YEAR. and EVERY YEAR they get surprised…all i’m saying is learn a lesson & some humility

by tarheelicane9 on Apr 8, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see plenty in this thread where people say a series with x or y wouldn’t be easy, seeding aside. This particular analysis said that the Caps would win this particular matchup. No playoff series is easy, and that’s why they play the games, but it’s not crazy to say that the Caps should beat the ’Canes in 5 or 6.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I’m not sure where you’re getting “every year” from. Both the Penguins in ‘08-’09 and the Flyers in ‘07-’08 had better records than the Caps, so neither of those was a problem of overlooking a lower seed.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoops. Retract the ‘08-’09. But I still think the Pens team was better (obviously, they won the cup) and I don’t think it was the Caps hubris that brought that team down, but the worse team tiring out.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya that year was definitely an even matchup & that awesome series coulda gone either way…retract EVERY :-)

by tarheelicane9 on Apr 8, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

The loss is easier to stomach if I remember the Caps as the underdogs.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh. Pittsburgh’s overall point totals were depressed by the early-going shitshow under Therien. Pitt was a damned good team.

Who, I should point out, abused the snot out of the Canes in the ECF after the Caps took them to 7.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 8, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right, just trying to backpedal over my initial glaring factual error.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

how do you think us Canes fans survive?

by tarheelicane9 on Apr 8, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Every year? Like that entire period when we were in the basement? Or the year we expected to lose to PHI?

So by EVERY YEAR you mean last year and the year before. Gotcha.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 8, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Tell that to Fenwick%.

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by red army line on Apr 8, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because how the fans think has a direct impact on the play on the ice, right, I get it.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 8, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Playoffs or not, history is on the Caps’ side. Better team with more depth offensively and defensively. CAR can do well in the playoffs — and I’d expect them to play well in a WAS-CAR series, but heart can’t get your third line scoring.

Dingos are involved. Best not to ask.

by alex_k on Apr 8, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

ya Caps definitely have the Canes beat on the 3rd line and probably 4th line too…playoff experience is really only strong on the Canes top 2 lines so that may even it out in the end

by tarheelicane9 on Apr 8, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Experience only goes so far. I still think the ’Nucks are the favorites despite the franchise never having won it before.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

meh…look at the Canucks division. Let that remind you of 08-09, 09-10 Caps. not much competition there. The rest of the WC is battle-ready so the Canucks should be weary like the Caps should have been…

by tarheelicane9 on Apr 8, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Teams play 24 division games. Teams play 40 non-division games in their conference. I don’t think the weak division argument holds any water.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I hope the team at least changes its attitude this year

What attitude needs changing?

by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 8, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um, duh, you need subtle confidence. And your heart on your sleeve.

No one can win without that.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 8, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t deny that last year’s Caps were chasing the wrong things, especially at the end of the regular season (individual milestones, etc.), but that doesn’t change the fact that Washington was the better team than Montreal. The better team doesn’t always win, and there may be a reason for that, but ask around at fanbases not WSH or CAR which of the two teams is better, and you wouldn’t get a whole lot of CAR in response.

That’s not to say that the Caps couldn’t choke, but I take no offense to the comment that the team who has beaten the other 5/6 and is better in almost every metric is better by a longshot.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

LaRose referred to as subtle in any way? Does not compute.

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by alex_k on Apr 8, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

snicker

Ruutu, now there’s the very picture of subtlety.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 8, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

which is why the Caps have failed in the past few playoffs. i sense a change in the players’ attitudes this year…maybe the Olympics woke up Ovie

by tarheelicane9 on Apr 8, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

So why didn’t Carolina win the Cup the last three years, if they have all this heart?

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

cuz they couldn’t make the freakin playoffs :-( when they’re in though…they make it count…with heart, of course

by tarheelicane9 on Apr 8, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right. So you can have all the heart in the world, sometimes other teams are better (sometimes even eight of them). I don’t think it’s wrong to point that out, or to acknowledge that upsets happen, but they’re not the norm.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

again it’s only natural to point out that certain teams are better based on regular season performance. but please review some of your cohorts comments above about how easy these potential matchups are gonna be. heart is what helped the canadiens make that incredible come back last year…it’s not just a carolina-thing.

by tarheelicane9 on Apr 8, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing against the heart argument, but I think the Canadiens beat the Caps last year because of a fantastic* defensive system with a very good D to back it up and a phenom in G.

*fantastic=fantastic against the Caps’ run-and-gun system.

They were a fatal match for us.

by capsfan4 on Apr 8, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Also, no one at The Rink overlooked the Habs. In fact, most of us were quite fearful of their trapping ways and wanted no parts of them.

by SethB on Apr 8, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

a fatal match up after the Caps had completely dominated games 2-4 scoring 17 goals? do you really wanna remember those horrible memories? u don’t remember how confident every got that the canadiens were truly playing like an 8 seed and game 1 was just a fluke?

by tarheelicane9 on Apr 8, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your argument is basically boiling down to “never have any confidence in your team.” That’s a silly argument.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I was referring to systems. Systemically, it was a fatal match-up. I still maintain that. Also, I haven’t lived in DC for a few years and didn’t comment on the rink until recently…so I can’t really comment on whether or not everyone was confident.

by capsfan4 on Apr 8, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

The discussion in which many were, in fact, not, has already been linked to upthread (or downthread, or wherever the hell it is now).

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The #1 seed is 23-9 against the 8 seed since 1994. It is not unreasonable to expect the 1 seed to handle the 8 seed.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope not unreasonable just ridiculous that regular contributors to this blog think that the Caps are better than the Canes “by a longshot”

by tarheelicane9 on Apr 8, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

All the stats back up that assertion. Some nebulous attribution to “heart” backs up yours.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

playoff history & coaching achievement is not nebulous…that was the bulk of my argument

by tarheelicane9 on Apr 8, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

So do you also think the Stars/Hawks will beat the Canucks?

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

The Canucks should be very nervous for a match up with the defending champions…yes. There’s plenty of articles out there already discussing this.

by tarheelicane9 on Apr 8, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

How did that Chicago team win their Cup after so many years of playoff failure, then? They weren’t the defending champions last year. If your argument made any sense, the Devils wouldn’t be out of the playoffs and there wouldn’t be five cupless teams ready to make noise out west.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

What, exactly, does playoff history have to do with this? You think the Islanders are going to win the Cup this year?

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by Rob Parker on Apr 8, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

I think tarheel was referring to the relatively recent Carolina Stanley Cup and the fact that there are still members from that team playing rather than a franchise’s storied history.

by capsfan4 on Apr 8, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

And even that is spurious. They’ve lost more than they’ve retained, including the leadership core of the team. Lots of teams lost a bunch and then won. Previous playoff success or failure isn’t really indicative of much, other than previous playoff success or failure.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 8, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

about how easy these potential matchups are gonna be.

No one said easy. We all realize that Edmonton could upset Vancouver in a playoff series (well, maybe not, but you get the point, I think). That being said, some are easier than others, and there’s no reason for me to believe that Carolina is anywhere near as good as Montreal, Buffalo, or New York.

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by red army line on Apr 8, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the first salvo is fired. It’s on, boys.

So, lemme get this straight. The Canes will be a dangerous matchup because of: past playoff performance; coaching staff; the fact that they ‘play as a team’; the fact they play ‘with their hearts on their sleeves’ (whatever that means); community purpose; humble expectation for success and a subtle confidence.

Riiiiiiiiiight. You keep on thinkin’ that way, pardner.

The Canes’ hopes rest on precisely one guy, and that’s Cam Ward. If he can put up a .950 or so save percentage, they have a chance. Otherwise, it’s over.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 8, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I agree with that. I think I’ll take the Canes as my preferred first rounder. But all in all I hope we’re the team with the “hot goalie” this year for a change.

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by ExPatCapFan on Apr 8, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice work.

Buffalo still looks like the best team overall, and the one I’d want to avoid. Carolina looks like the worst.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 8, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

NYR and CAR have similar numbers, and a lot of NYR’s numbers there include Callahan, so they may very well be a wash. I feel good (gulp) about our chances against either.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Check out CAR’s overall Fenwich %, though. Significantly worse.

But, yeah, Callahan counts for something. I’m with you, either way, Caps are big favorites.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 8, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

CAR’s overall Fenwich

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by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 8, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stats Sandwich, the newly released album by the Elite.

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by alex_k on Apr 8, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fenwich, closely related Corso d’oeuvres.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 8, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Corsi Rel Q-CHOMP.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love the “I AM STURM HEAR ME ROAR” pic

by ididntdoit on Apr 8, 2011 11:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Marco makes the greatest faces. Had to use it here. :)

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by Becca H on Apr 8, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

is this the last year of his contract, or are we in for a full season of The Many Faces of Marco?

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by RedBirdie on Apr 8, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he ended up being a playoff hero, it would make for a great human interest piece. Guy goes from having a few seasons of very respectable numbers with the Bruins, gets hurt and finds himself the odd man out when he gets healthy, gets sent to the Kings for a three-pack of pucks. Kings waive him and he’s picked up by the Caps for nothing…

Up to Marco to finish the story… I’m hoping for a happy ending.

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by iwearstripes on Apr 8, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

fires the shot that Knuble pokes in on the rebound in game 7 OT? talk about storybook endings for those guys.

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by RedBirdie on Apr 8, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

and throw in that he was once upon a time one of the players traded from the Sharks to the Bruins for Thornton…

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 8, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmmm…..so, out East, the Caps and Buffalo are the only playoff teams without Cups. But out West, I’m counting 5 teams without a title. if the Caps could top one of the other historic chokers…..one hell of a story, no matter who pots the winner.

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by RedBirdie on Apr 8, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s certainly potential there.

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by iwearstripes on Apr 8, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please. This story is pretty, except for the game 7 part. OT is fine, but let’s make it game 5.

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by gfcaps fan on Apr 8, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

please. what team have you mean watching? :) game 7. multiple OT. and somehow McCreary will have to come in as an emergency ref replacement.

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by RedBirdie on Apr 8, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

And if it’s vs Buffalo, McCreary can still tackle ShaMo.

by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 8, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not really too scared of any of those teams. Not like I was of MON last year when we had this discussion. I’m on the same track as Gouldie with respect to the Rags; they got lucky in catching us at the right (wrong?) time. Hank is already banged up and Callahan is gone. I dont’ fear them.

CAR, despite our record, is probably the one I’d least like to face. For one, they are going to be the hottest of the teams if they make it. For two, they always play us tough. And for three, when they actually make the playoffs they tend to do serious damage. A real boom or bust squad. Although, maybe Eric Staal will thank us for singlehandedly getting him on the Canadian Olympic team and take it easy on us. My guess is that he’ll only “take it easy” when he senses a ref’s arm might go in the air. Strong as a bear… when he wants to be.

I do have to say, posting Varly’s “career” numbers against MON without including the 6 games last year is quite a bit misleading. I know only the regular season stats count as official, but from a realistic fan-based perspective, you kind of have to include last season’s debacle, no?

Weird Buffalo team this year. Not as sound defensively, top ten (at last check, probably at least still near top 10) offense, and Ryan Miller isn’t sniffing the Vezina discussion. I’d still harbor more than a little concern against them, but I don’t think they are too frightening.

As has been said a million times, the Caps could beat or lose to every one of those teams. I’m of the mind that the way the Caps play is by far more important than who they play.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 8, 2011 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

The only one I would consider his fault last year was Game 6 (4-1L). Overall he was 3-3, 2.41, .908%. Which isn’t stellar, but if the Caps score 1 more goal, we’re not talking about it at all.

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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Apr 8, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m just saying it’s part of the picture.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 8, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely part of the picture – we’re adding ’em to the post.

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by J.P. on Apr 8, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Added. Past tense.

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by Becca H on Apr 8, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

And for those interested, here are Varly’s true career numbers, regular season and playoffs combined:

6-3-1, sv% of 0.950, GAA of 2.01, one shutout (and that includes a record of 4-1-0, sv% of .924, GAA of 2.18 in Montreal)

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by Becca H on Apr 8, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure if that was a c/p error, but how did it go from:

3-0-1, 1.45 GAA, 0.950 save % career vs. Montreal; 3-3, 2.41GAA, 0.908 save % in the playoffs

to .950% overall? I don’t have the game logs in front of me but reg season sample size isn’t big enough for the .908% to not move it a bit, right?

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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Apr 8, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

The 3-0-1, .950 is regular season; .908 is in the playoffs.

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by Becca H on Apr 8, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he’s asking how the two combined average out to his regular season numbers. Shouldn’t the .908 bring that .950 down just a bit?

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by Rob Parker on Apr 8, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

The first numbers are this season, second are career regular season, third are career playoffs, no?

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by J.P. on Apr 8, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

This season: 0.96 GAA, 0.968 save % and one shutout in 2 games

Career regular season: 3-0-1, 1.45 GAA, 0.950 save %

Playoffs: 3-3, 2.41GAA, 0.908 save % in the playoffs

Career regular season + playoffs: 6-3-1, sv% of 0.950, GAA of 2.01, one shutout

…that clearer?

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by Becca H on Apr 8, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

That aggregate sv% still has something fishy going on. .950 in 4 games + .908 in 6 games = .950 how?

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look below.

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by Becca H on Apr 8, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

here are Varly’s true career numbers, regular season and playoffs combined:

That’s what I’m going off of. Looks like she is giving us the aggregated playoff and regular season combined. Unless the playoff shot totals are tiny, shouldn’t that .908 bring his regular season .950 down a bit? He didn’t face a ton of shots in the playoffs, but his regular season sample is also small enough that his aggregate Sv% should land somewhere between .908 – .950, unless I’m reading that sentence wrong.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 8, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hang on. It’s very possible that with 3402389 numbers on my spreadsheet I did it wrong. Give me a few minutes, I’ll double-check.

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by Becca H on Apr 8, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reg Season Sv% = 0.95
Reg Season GAA = 1.45
Playoff Sv% = 0.908
Playoff GAA = 2.41
Combined Sv % = 0.927
Combined GAA = 2.01

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by Becca H on Apr 8, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Muchas gracias for the legwork.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks Becca.

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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Apr 8, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

No prob, guys – sorry for the confusion. Math is not my strongest suit :P

…and now I need an Advil and a pillow.

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by Becca H on Apr 8, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looking back on that game log, MON had 28, 21, and 16 shots against those last three games. Huge oof.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right. Even assuming arbitrarily that he played all 60 minutes of every appearance for which he received a decision (incorrect, I know), that would be 4 regular season games at .950 and 6 postseason games at .908.

(4×.950 + 6×.908)/10 = .925%

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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Apr 8, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Er, minutes assumption would be for GAA, nvm.

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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Apr 8, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless he faced significantly more or significantly fewer shots in one sample, the number’s going to be somewhere around there.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I meant to type “shot quantity” (not quality) instead of “minutes played”.

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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Apr 8, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

We were outshooting them quite a bit during the playoff games, so (though that doesn’t necessarliy mean there were fewer shots against, just probably) it may end up a touch higher than .925.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotcha; don’t disagree.

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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Apr 8, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree 100% that Carolina is the most dangerous of the group. Playing well at the right time, and being a division opponent, they know us very well. And while Lundqvist and Miller are all-world, Cam Ward is the only goalie of the group with a Stanley Cup to his name. Do not want.

by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 8, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Although Ryan Miller has plenty of big game success. Two ECF appearances, the Silver medal. He played CAR in the ECF and if his D Corps hadn’t been destroyed (Jeff Jillson had to play) then he may have been the one to win the Cup.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 8, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed, Miller is plenty accomplished.

Not to say anything bad about Miller or Lundqvist… Just that Ward should be seen as plenty dangerous in his own right(Conn Smythe), and their skaters have waaaaaaay more playoff experience than ours do.

Plus, if the hockey gods do hate us, and the Caps tank it and have a first round exit(clapclapclap), which team would be the most humiliating to have lost to? Carolina.

by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 8, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. I’d hate to flame out against CAR in the first round.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 8, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would be pretty expected humiliating to lose to anyone in the first round, but the ’Canes would sting the most, I think.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Ted ever sells the caps, I imagine Pfizer would buy them. Caps fan base has to be the biggest bloc purchaser of Zoloft.

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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Apr 8, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

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Reminds me a bit of today’s XKCD:

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by J.P. on Apr 8, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

#capsfanmetaphor

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by smutsboy1 on Apr 8, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well played

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by NGreenberg on Apr 8, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very nice. Like how you ended on a positive note.

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by jaytown99 on Apr 8, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Know what’s more than a little bit delicious that people (here at least, probably not in Raleigh) might be forgetting?

Remember Caps/Canes on March 11? Here’s what I wrote in the Recap:

The Caps were the beneficiaries of a quick whistle late in the game a few moments before Carolina put the puck into the Washington net. But let’s be clear about one thing – the Caps on the ice quit playing on the whistle, as every kid on the planet is taught to do. The whistle didn’t necessarily cost the ’Canes a goal.

No, the whistle didn’t necessarily cost the ’Canes a goal. But it probably did. And with it, at least one point, maybe two.

Wonder if they’d like to have that point or two right now…

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by J.P. on Apr 8, 2011 11:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Hard not to smile at that one. I know I’m indulging my spiteful side, but that would just be great if that one goal could really cost CAR. Add in that Friday game in NJD that effectively ended their push for the playoffs…

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by Rob Parker on Apr 8, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really, if Carolina misses the playoffs, they’ll need to look no further than their season against the Caps as to why.

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by J.P. on Apr 8, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

If I wasn’t at work I’d post the Cartman “sweet sweet tears” picture.

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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Apr 8, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

You called, I answered

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by jaytown99 on Apr 8, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

From most want to least want I’d say:
Montreal-for all the obvious reasons; least physical, better matchups, weak defensive corp and, most of all, revenge
Rangers- no Callahan (huge), a maybe banged up Lundqvist, low-scoring team and the 7-0 and 6-0 humiliations to atone for
Carolina- not a big fan of playing intra-division rivals with very good goalies, but they don’t have a ton of depth on the forward lines, their defense is just OK and they do have Corvo. Still, they’re not a team I’d prefer to play because they skate hard and it would be a physical series. And they’ve got a Ruutu.
Buffalo- the team I least want to see. Ryan Miller could easily steal a series, they’re forwards are fast and can score, they’re defense can be imposing. Last but not least, their cockroach like fans will find a way to invade the dark recesses of Verizon with their “Let’s go Buffalo” chants. Still, it’s a series the Caps should win in 5 games, 6 tops.

by b.orr4 on Apr 8, 2011 12:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t understand how a city so small travels so numerously.

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by smutsboy1 on Apr 8, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

they don’t travel. Like Detroit and Pittsburgh, half of Buffalo lives in the DC area.

although, one of their cockroach like fans is un-cockroach like. He brought me a Backstrom bobblehead from Saturday’s game.

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by RedBirdie on Apr 8, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. While there have been buses making the trip so some do travel, as well, there is a huge population of Buffalo area natives in the DC area (like the other 2 cities mentioned.)

In addition, there are quite a number of Caps STHs who switch to Buffalo jerseys (and some do it with Detroit) when their team comes to town. Personally, I don’t get the switching jerseys part, but that’s the case.

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 8, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know. If I had to move to, say, Phoenix, I could definitely see supporting the ‘Yotes and getting a Doan jersey…but I’d definitely still rock my Caps gear when they came to town.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the other hand, I’d probably still just wear my Caps jersey, so I can see wear you’re coming from.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

A guy in our section is orginially from Philly. Other than that he’s a great guy, and he’s a great Caps fan. Except when Philly comes to town.

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by gfcaps fan on Apr 8, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

The other thing is that pretty much no one who lives in DC is from DC. (Except me, and I don’t live there anymore :( )
So, why not adopt the Caps but still support the hometown team when they are in the arena?

(and yes, I am aware that 20 people who were born in DC are about to prove me wrong.)

by capsfan4 on Apr 8, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even this local-bred can’t deny it’s a town of transients.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was raised rooting for another team. I would choose to wear something other than a jersey supporting either team before I would choose wearing the home team jersey (if I was still a fan of that team, which I’m not.)

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 8, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know many people who believe you never switch your allegiance regardless of what games you attend. I understand switching allegiances although in my case it had nothing to do with sports (it’s a long story.)

Anyway, just seems weird to me that some people can go back and forth. As I noted above, I might have a rooting interest and like both teams, but I don’t think I could switch back and forth in terms of jersey wearing fandom.

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 8, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

You may put more stock in what it means to be wearing the jersey than some folks, I guess. I don’t think I could ever give up the Caps, though, so it’s all moot!

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Born in Sibley, but still can’t prove you wrong. Not many born and bred locals around here. My parents were from elsewhere but met at AU, and my wife is from elsewhere but came here for a job.

But my daughter was born in our Tenleytown bedroom!

by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 8, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

hippie!

funny thing, me and my borthers are townies, and yet I’m the only Caps fan. The boys followed mom’s lead and cheer for the bruins.

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by RedBirdie on Apr 8, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

hippie!

More like open-minded. A healthy pregnancy is not a medical emergency!

Your mom and bros have had quite a cup drought themselves. Going on 40 years now. Here’s to hoping you celebrate one before they do. And that Tim Thomas turns into a pumpkin in the 1st round.

by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 8, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m joking about the hippie thing :) you should see me trying to convince my other half that there’s no need for a hospital….(btw, okay if I e-mail you about it?)

mom and the bros have that strange Boston sense of entitlement that keeps them going. “WHAT?! you didn’t just hand us the Cup/World Series/Super Bowl because we’re Boston?!?! FOR SHAME!” I think if they actually stopped to think about that Cup drought, never mind last season’s collapse, they’d all become unbearably depressed.

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by RedBirdie on Apr 9, 2011 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

9-2-4 against our potential opponents. I’ll take it!

by TheBored on Apr 8, 2011 12:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Mental note: don’t listen to telecon while typing comments. 12-2-4.

by TheBored on Apr 8, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see that as 12-6, though. OT losses are just losses when we get to the playoffs.

by HockeyDragon on Apr 8, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 of those losses were SO though – 1 each to the Habs, Rangers, and Canes. 2 of the wins were as well.

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by timmyv38 on Apr 8, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

As much as we want our match-up in round 1 favorable, wouldn’t we want the match-ups for the other top teams tough? Think about it for a second. Right now it looks like we will play either the Rags or Canes baring something amazing happening. So That would probably leave PHI-BUF, BOS-MTL and PIT-TBL.

Let’s say the Caps get through round 1 as the top seed (knock on wood). Look at what else could happen. Montreal is clearly capable of beating Boston in a series, and Buffalo can beat Philadelphia as well. If one of those happens, the Caps would play them in round 2.

All I’m saying here is that as much as we want to figure out a way to fidn the best match-up for us, shouldn’t we also try to make the lives of other teams miserable too?

by DChockey08 on Apr 8, 2011 12:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, you go into the playoffs assuming it’ll get harder after the first round – all the Caps can do is hope for the best possible match-up to start and perhaps a little luck along the way. Right now there’s maybe two teams in the East that I’d consider an “easy” out, and that’s a relative term, but I also think if things go the right way the Caps can beat any team in the East. Best to worry about our own match-up now and whatever comes after, comes after.

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by Becca H on Apr 8, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely, but wouldn’t you want to see Boston and Montreal best up on each other for a full 6 or 7 games and have Ryan Miller maybe steal a series in Philly?

That said, bring on the Canes.

by DChockey08 on Apr 8, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, for sure. And I think the Caps could take either of those teams if they got out of the first round – just saying we deal with our own stuff first (and get out of the first goddamn round already, come ON, Caps!!) and then worry about the rest ;)

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by Becca H on Apr 8, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t believe the 1st round is less than a week away… My stomach is already knotting up!

by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 8, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the “Caps probably start on Wednesday” rumors are true, I’m happy. I’d hate to have to wait until Thursday or Friday to start a series; those extra days of anticipation would be killer.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, someone help me out because this came up in conversation the other day…was it the Flyers series 3 years ago that started on a Friday when everyone else in the League had already gotten underway?

I can’t remember which series it was but I remember the waiting was particularly brutal, which makes me think it was Philly because of the triumphant return to the playoffs.

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by Becca H on Apr 8, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep, that’s the one. We waited how many years to be back in the playoffs??? Those extra couple of days were just b-r-u-t-a-l. “But I want to watch the playoffs now!

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by RedBirdie on Apr 8, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what I thought. That was AWFUL. Waiting that long and then having to wait some more, all while the other 14 teams (…yes, I had to stop and think about the math there, wow) were like “haha, we’ve started already!”

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by Becca H on Apr 8, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

those other 14 teams didn’t get what we got: A Donald Brashear Playoff Goal. fuck. yeah.

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by RedBirdie on Apr 8, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Holding out hope for a DJ King Playoff Goal. Except for the injuries that implies.

by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 8, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d settle for a Jeff Schultz Playoff Goal.

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by timmyv38 on Apr 8, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t imagine if the Hawks finish 8th and have to face the Canucks, that would be classic. Either the defending champs or the Presidents trophy, super dominate Canucks gone after round one. The rest of the must be praying for this matchup.

by mig991 on Apr 8, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

‘rest of the West’ must be praying.

by mig991 on Apr 8, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be an absolutely amazing match-up. No disagreement here…but I will say that any of the top 3 in the West (Detroit, San Jose, and Vancouver) each have a pretty good story. Either way, there is going to be a redemption/rivalry angle.

by capsfan4 on Apr 8, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Best to worry about our own match-up now and whatever comes after, comes after.

Been my mantra all this time….

...duhhh....what's a goal?

by RedskinFan4Life on Apr 8, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice write-ups to have all in one place. I am not big on worrying about the opponent, but in terms of looking at the series history for the season, something else that I believe is relevant is when the games were played during the respective season series and if any key players were missing from any of the games who will be available during the playoffs.

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 8, 2011 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed. And fear not, once our opponent is decided we’ll delve more into stuff like that because (as I always like to say) context is key.

For example, the Rangers handed the Caps their 2 worst losses of the year…that being said, one was during a particularly bad stretch and the other was the first game back from a long road trip. And neither featured the newest additions to the lineup.

The Canes beat the Caps in a shootout recently, but that was them playing desperate in a push for the playoffs against a Caps team that looked disinterested at times, as well as a team just getting Arnott and Ovi back into the lineup after a long layoff.

…that kind of stuff :P

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by Becca H on Apr 8, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the reply. Yes, plenty of information left to delve into. There’s always a team or two where the season series is finished before the ASG, for example. Any games where a team’s key player didn’t play, etc.

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 8, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

REc'd

because this article’s final words are

…but Matt Bradley is also Matt Bradley.

by Brainumbc on Apr 8, 2011 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I fully believe that Lundqvist has nightmares about Matt Bradley. He’s his boogeyman.

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by Becca H on Apr 8, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

my educated guesses about the outcomes of the series against the potential opponents

Based on how I’m guessing the momentum of the series will go:

Sabres:
Game 1: W (strong Caps win)
Game 2: W (less strong Caps win)
Game 3: L (Miller steals one)
Game 4: W (Caps squeak past Miller)
Game 5: L (Caps don’t play hard enough)
Game 6: W (They finish this bitch)

Canes:
Game 1: W (strong Caps win)
Game 2: W (Caps kick ass)
Game 3: W (clinch game with an EN)
Game 4: L (Canes wake up)
Game 5: W (Canes crumble, Caps finish this bitch)

Habs:
Game 1: W (1-goal game)
Game 2: W (another 1-goal game)
Game 3: L (Habs play the good game we know they’re capable of, Caps don’t)
Game 4: W (Caps win by several goals)
Game 5: L (Caps don’t come ready, get ambushed)
Game 6: W (Caps eek out series clincher)

Rags:
Game 1: L (Rags put forth a strong game and the Caps don’t open with what it takes to beat them)
Game 2: W (Caps decide to act like a 1-seed)
Game 3: W (Neuvy outplays Lundy)
Game 4: L (Lundy steals one)
Game 5: W (Rags don’t have what it takes to keep it up)
Game 6: W (they still don’t have what it takes, they bow out valiantly)

by j762 on Apr 8, 2011 1:26 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Something’s wrong. Not nearly enough “Game 7: L” on there.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve got a good feeling about this year. a real good feeling

by j762 on Apr 8, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s the first step in a Game 7 L.

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by Alz in the family on Apr 8, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i’ll have you shot for defeatism!

by j762 on Apr 8, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll do a shot for defeatism.

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by Alz in the family on Apr 8, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

touche, my friend

by j762 on Apr 8, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha

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by smutsboy1 on Apr 8, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can we get the final results of the poll last year on who the majority wanted to face in the 1st round? I feel like Montreal was #1.

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by jaytown99 on Apr 8, 2011 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Definite nope.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jesus…I forgot I did that one. And that we were able to post it a month before playoffs – insane.

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by Becca H on Apr 8, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Olympic Break ended and we were all like “Yawn. call us when there is meaningful hockey.”

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by RedBirdie on Apr 8, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

“But meantime, let’s get jazzed over individual stats and trophies!”

by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 8, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

what else were we going to get jazzed over? bruce’s daily hagen daaz intake? Sloan’s NCC/60?

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by RedBirdie on Apr 8, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suppose the team letting Ovie and others rest up a bit would’ve been worthing cheering. Water under the bridge now.

by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 8, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

…this might be my favorite comment from that post:

MTL is 11th in PK…they’ve got good special teams.

I think they have the worst goaltending of those three teams though. – YvonLabresMustache

Good call, YLM ;)

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by Becca H on Apr 8, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ooh ooh or this one in reply:

I’d say a goalie would be enough to win a game or two, but against the Cap’s offense no way a goalie alone will take an entire series.

…sorry :P I don’t mean to make people look silly, but it’s a funny reminder of what a lot of people thought at the time.

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by Becca H on Apr 8, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

There goes 9 months of therapy, shot to hell.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 8, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I reeeeeaaally don’t want a Caps-Habs playoff series either, trust me

- Becca H

This lady is a psychic genius. Becca, who do you like this time, I need to get some bets down soon?

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by jaytown99 on Apr 8, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cripes. No pressure…

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by Becca H on Apr 8, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Becca had reasons other than “tough matchup for the Caps” to not want that series.

by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 8, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Truth. But it really was a little of both – I believe I said in a different comment on the same post that having watched the Habs as much as I did and having watched them against the Caps, they matched up better against the Caps than anyone else and seemed to play harder. I knew they would be a tough team to play (and I think in a different post I pointed out that Halak could go from ice cold to red hot in a second, which he did in our series).

So HA. It wasn’t all because I didn’t want my teams playing each other :P And the way you know that is this: I think the Habs would be the best draw for us this year and I’d love the Caps to play them. Ain’t gonna happen most likely, but I wish it would.

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by Becca H on Apr 8, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

So HA.

That made me smile.

Yeah, I’d love to see a revenge series against MTL this Spring. It could still happen in the 2nd round.

by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 8, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, man…if only. That would mean three good things would have happened!

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by Becca H on Apr 8, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Caps win 1st round, MTL wins 1st round, and Boston loses 1st round?

by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 8, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ooh, FOUR things! :P I was going for “Caps get to seek revenge against a team I think they can beat in the second round”, but the Habs winning is a good thing too.

Oh, dare to dream, kids…dare to dream.

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by Becca H on Apr 8, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bahahahaha.

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by jaytown99 on Apr 8, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh. I forgot about lifetime caps fan and the “stop correcting people” discussion.

Also, given Boston’s performance last year, I’d say the wisdom of the crowd was pretty good. Be interesting to see how it shakes out this year.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 8, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

lifetime caps fan definitely gets my “golden banhammer.” What a riot/aggravation that guy was.

Also, I’m not surprised that we as a whole were generally right; if there’s one thing Caps fans can do, it’s predict that the team will let us down spectacularly.

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by SmallZ827 on Apr 8, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

no no no, everyone here was adamant that Montreal was the team we wanted to NOT see.

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by RedBirdie on Apr 8, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

How’d the Canes play Washington 7 times and Washington only played Carolina 6?

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by clrkaitken on Apr 8, 2011 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

They use a different math system in North Carolina.

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by twistedlogic on Apr 8, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

…I can’t believe it took that long for someone to catch that. I certainly didn’t notice. Wow.

Thank you :)

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by Becca H on Apr 8, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t believe someone actually read that far.

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by jaytown99 on Apr 8, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Miller, Ward, Price, or Lundqvist.

Each one of them is capable of standing on their head for a series, so honestly none of these teams should be taken lightly. Thus, as it should be, the Caps success will depend on them playing their game well.

If forced to choose for the first round, I’d least like to face Miller the least, but would probably rather face the rest of the Sabres because they strike me as less of a chippy team than any of the other three. I’m not saying Buffalo lacks physical presence; I’m just saying they feel like they play a cleaner game than the others, which would aid the Caps long term playoff aspirations.

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by skyywise on Apr 8, 2011 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone but the Rags

Going up against a team in the playoffs that owned them during the regular season worries me quite a bit. I didn’t want Montreal last year, I don’t want NY this year.
As for goalies, I’m not concerned (Thomas is the only one to fear this year in the east), because, as King Hendrick said, there’s no secret; just go to the net.
If it works out that the Caps face the Rangers, I hope to eat crow. Large mouthfuls of crow.

(on a side not- too bad crow tastes so bad, becuase there sure are an awful lot of them…)

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by The Jade Donkey on Apr 8, 2011 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

If Pittsburgh beats the Isles tonight, then Tampa is locked into 5th.

Tampa will then have less incentive in its game against Carolina, perhaps even resting players.

I’d much rather see Carolina than the Rangers.

So as painful as it is, I will hope the Pens win tonight, though doing so in a highly truculent matchup with many heavy hits.

by Stormblue on Apr 8, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

If PIT beats NYI (likely), and PHI loses to BUF (also likely), that means PIT takes the #2 spot…Given top seeds winning out (somewhat likely,) that means that we face PHI in the 2nd round (and, yes, that means a healthy Pronger is back)….so if you wanted a reason not to cheer for PIT, there it is!

by capsfan4 on Apr 8, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, we all were worriedly searching for a reason not to cheer for PIT. New here?

/snark

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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Apr 8, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha! Point taken. And yes, I am new to commenting, although I’ve been reading for a few years.

What I meant to say, is that I don’t want PIT to leapfrog PHI. I think the Pens would be a better match-up for the Caps in the 2nd round.

by capsfan4 on Apr 8, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with both pieces of this. I would love PHI losing first round and I think PIT is going to be the clown hole from Happy Gilmore that has defeated us constantly in the past but that we will finally overcome.

"Inglewood Jack! Inglewood Jack!" - Coach Jules

by Alz Well That Ends Well on Apr 8, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can Pitt leap frog Philly? If the Penguins win and Flyers lose, or if the Pens lose in OT and the Flyers lose in regulation. Like you, I do NOT want Pitt to leapfrog over the Flyers.

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