Monday Caps Clips: Back to Work
by J.P. on Apr 25, 2011 6:40 AM EDT
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Your savory breakfast links:
- Michal Neuvirth is well on his way to being a household name. [WaPo (Wise), Homer McFanboy]
- Nice to get a relatively easy one early, eh? [WashTimes (Whyno), Loose Pucks (Keim)]
- In Game 5, the Caps best players were their best players. [AP (White), CW (Whyno)]
- Ten reasons this year's different. [Toronto Sun (Zeisberger)]
- Closeout done right. [KOL]
- Ranking the top goalie performances from the regular season and in this year's playoffs so far (Spoiler alert: Neuvy makes a few appearances on the lists, but not for his Game 2 shutout). [Puck Daddy]
- On Bruce Boudreau, the player. [Lowetide]
- John Carlson and Karl Alzner have been and are a super pairing. [CRtC]
- Checking in on the beards after one round. [Capitals News Network]
- Alex Ovechkin bikes in flip-flops, enjoys over-priced baked goods. [D.C. Sports Bog]
- Thanks, Sens? (And no, not just for Brooks Laich.) [SenShot]
- Sean Avery: bitten or biter? Either way... golfer. [D.C. Sports Bog]
- Welcome newbies - the bandwagon's big enough for all. [Blonde Girl's Guide]
- This year's incarnation of the Hershey Bears was one-and-done come Calder Cup playoff time. Kudos on the great four-year run that was for the AHL's premiere franchise... [Patriot-News (Leone), SHoE]
- ... and for the first time in recent memory, the Caps' season will last longer than its AHL affiliate's, and thus "Black Aces." [CW (Whyno)]
- Prospect updates (courtesy Emily):
- The Mississauga St. Michael's Majors now lead their OHL Eastern Conference Championship series 2 games to 1 over the Niagara Ice Dogs. In three games, Brett Flemming is 0-2-2, even, and has been on ice for 3 goals-for and two against (both goals against in a 5-3 loss). Game Four is tonight in Niagara.
- Stan Galiev and Samuel Carrier continue their head-to-head battle on Tuesday, when the QMJHL semifinal moves to Lewiston. Game One was a 5-4 overtime Saint John win. Galiev had 2 assists, a minus-1 rating, and was named first star of the game. Carrier had the primary assist on a shorthanded goal that tied the score and sent the game to OT, but was on ice for the Sea Dogs' game-winner. Game Two was also won by the Sea Dogs 4-1, as they capitalized on a major penalty assessed to Lewiston. Three Dogs scored on the ensuing power play, with Galiev getting the first goal and second star honors. Carrier had the primary assist on the MAINEiacs' only goal, which was scored with Galiev on-ice.
- Cody Eakin has been awarded the alternate captain's A and may be in consideration for some League honors for his play in the WHL Eastern Conference Championship series. The Kootenay Ice have taken a surprising 2-0 lead over playoff scoring leader Linden Vey and the Medicine Hat Tigers. The first game was a firewagon affair, going to OT at 5-5. Though Cody was held off the scoresheet and went minus-3 (against the Tigers' top line), any frustration dissipated when he potted the OT gamewinner (video here). The next game was more subdued, as Cody scored a goal in the first few minutes of the game and added two more assists in a 3-0 Ice victory. Vey went minus-3 in that game. The Ice have now won nine straight, and they will play next in Cranbrook on Tuesday.
- Finally, on an administrative note, here's a friendly reminder that our "What We're Reading" widget (in the left sidebar on the front page) is updated throughout the day with all of the latest Caps news, so check back often.
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Strange how Neuvy is showing he’s just as good, if not better than Varly., and he doesn’t have nearly the same cult following Varly had two years ago when he was our playoff savior.
Wonder how it feels to be Varly. Go from cult hero to injured off-and-on all season, to riding the pine when the team might actually have playoff success.
Yea, but Varly should understand that him not playing is also a result of injuries. You cant expect to be the #1 when your hurt a good bit, and the guy running the show is doing well at the same time. If Varly was 100% healthy all year and he was getting beat out, it would have a different feel to it.
Yeah, you’re right. The goalie situation will be fun to watch this offseason.
by Jake Shapiro on Apr 25, 2011 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Don’t expect much. As it stands now, I’d be pretty shocked if it wasn’t the exact same next Opening Night as it was this past one – Neuvy, Varly here, Holtby in Hershey.
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Those Varly trying to go to KHL rumblings have gone away? Or just massively unrealistic.
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The latter, IMO, but you never know.
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The media have been saying forever that one of the three has to go. I always thought it’d be Holtby, but this season has made me start leaning towards Varly.
I’d like to see us keep them all though.
by Jake Shapiro on Apr 25, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
It most definitely won’t be Holtby.
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Although losing in the first round in the AHL sure doesn’t make him look great.
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He seemed to have a rough time after his last return to Hershey. At first I thought a lot of it was the readjustment to AHL level of play (all facets, including the refereeing). I wonder if some of it wasn’t in his head as well. He’ll be fine long-term.
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Sure, it’s a little tarnish, but I doubt that changes much about the organization’s high regard for him.
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At worst it’s just a reminder that his run/stats with the parent club this year were impossible to keep up.
Well, I’d rather play behind Alzner-Carlson than Souray-Orlov, too.
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Granted. Though, IMO, if you’re going to throw out Souray-Orlov you also have to throw out that the quality of competition in the AHL is a wee bit weaker than in the NHL.
Sure.
And nothing in my initial comment should be construed as implying that his NHL numbers this year were even remotely sustainable.
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hey, man, from his last 8 games or so they’re only like 50% higher than Thomas’ season. Totally tenable.
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I always thought that Holtby must have had a huge emotional let down when he went back to Hershey. He could say it was expected, anticipate, the logical order of things, etc., but to go from being NHL player of the week to Hershey in a few days has to be a huge let down.
And quality goailes should be able to overcome that.
Neuvy went from the ECHL to Europe to the ECHL to the AHL to the NHL to the AHL all in his rookie season. All he responded with was an AHL Championship/MVP.
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Yep, though I’m not even remotely surprised that Holtby doesn’t have the mental part of the game down nearly to the point that Neuvy does (or did). He’s got a rep as a bit of a hot-head, which certainly would imply as much.
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Very good point. He’s an emotional guy and that could definitely be a factor. He’s also much more raw in terms of his development than Neuvirth was at that point, based on what I have/had seen.
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I think several of us have made allusions to Holtby being like Olie from that standpoint. Took Olie awhile to get the mental part straightened out.
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by Carl Putnam on Apr 25, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Agree, but he was sure ice-like when he was on the ice here. Very cool in post-game interviews too. Then again, he did do all that weird stick-tapping stuff during time-outs . . . . .
I love the Holtbyisms. Holtby can be ice-like…but not consistently, and that’s the “mental” part he has to work on in the future. It’s not that he can’t get in the zone, it’s that he doesn’t take permanent residence there.
by redpezrocket on Apr 25, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with that, he’s still shown too much promise for this to sink him. I guess we’ve just been spoiled, but seeing him fail to win a first round is a bit disappointing.
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No question. The bar has been set really, really high.
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Man, F&B, give the Caps some credit.
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by Moonage Daydream on Apr 25, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
No I am kind of hoping F&Bs negative energy will push them to another 4-1 series win
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by Cap-O-Vens on Apr 25, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good thing the two of them are friends and that BB has made it clear that he believes in both of them. And the attitude of both have always come across as strong and positive.
As for “cult following,” I think Neuvy is developing one.
Oddly enough I think Varly’s dramatic, savior of the series style fit the overly excitable team at that time.
Neuvy’s style fits where this team’s head is at the moment. The whole team’s reaction is more workmanlike, less excitable. Less drama in the post game interviews; no shaking hands and trash talk by the players (ignoring BB’s MSG-gate)—and the player’s keeping the series win in perspective.
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by capsyoungguns on Apr 25, 2011 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Wouldn’t it be awesome if we made it to the finals and everyone in VC started wearing Bjork halloween masks?
by Brainumbc on Apr 25, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Watching the interviews yesterday I thought how mature everyone sounded. A far cry from the bad basketball playing and then the following interview with the water bottle shaky hand statement becoming this huge story. I’m always a little wary of trash talking one’s opponent and I really hated the drama of that series. If someone is going to be under the spotlight for statements, better it’s BB than Ovi or another player.
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by capsyoungguns on Apr 25, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Good point. That shaky hand comment about Halak (made by Brooks? Ovi?) was lame. Not why they lost, but lame.
Ovi.
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This season he praised the Rangers. Instead of semi-mocking Lundqvist’s godlike play in the last playoff series Ovi simply said that he was the Rangers’ best player out there. Perhaps the Captain has matured off the ice as much as on it.
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by capsyoungguns on Apr 25, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I feel like that’s certainly true, and hoped for. Also, I believe Ovi has a great respect for Lundy’s body of work, which he may not have had for Halak.
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That’s true too. Hell what’s there not to admire about Lundqvist. But I really liked how both goalies and especially Ovi spoke at length with him during the handshake line.
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by capsyoungguns on Apr 25, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
It was nice to see Ovie have a chat with Lundqvist and both of them, got to feel bad for Lundqvist after playing his heart out. But I didn’t think Lundqvist and Neuvy talked very long just the usual handshake and say one thing and move on. I actually thought Lundqvist and Varly talked longer.
by vtcapsfan99 on Apr 25, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, Lundy looked sad on the bench after he was pulled, peeking through his glove like a child who’s afraid to look at you after doing something wrong. He just didn’t have enough in front of him, thank goodness for us.
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Ya, I was kind of surprised that Neuvy and Lundqvist didn’t talk, or do a bro hug, or any of that. It was just the usual handshake. Neuvy didn’t even speak much to Prospal, I am sure they must know each other from the world championship or olympics or whatever. I think he’s just not into that. He’s like, ok dude, I won, I want some gatorade and go home.
Well, Prospal is 13 years older than Neuvy. And to my knowledge, Neuvy has never played in the Czech Republic past the U18 and U20 levels prior to coming to North America. At least, I haven’t found any record of his playing for any of the national teams. If he’s been around North American players the last few years through the OHL and AHL, it makes sense that he might not know too many of his fellow Czechs.
by redpezrocket on Apr 25, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I remember when Ondrej Pavelec collapsed while Neuvy was playing at the beginning of the season. He said after the game that it was very upsetting to him because he was friends with Pavelec from home.
by vtcapsfan99 on Apr 25, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ll have to dig up that interview sometime. I liked how he hovered over Greenie after he took the puck to the head (again).
I don’t think he and Pavelec played on the same teams outside of the junior championships, but they’re the same age so they must have been in the same circles.
by redpezrocket on Apr 25, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Found it finally, it took awhile because it was only in Caps Insider and not the game recap. Caps Insider linked to CSN.
“Oh yeah, he’s a good friend of mine,” Neuvirth said after his team’s 4-2 loss to the Thrashers at Philips Arena. “That was a really scary thing and I am just hoping he’s alright. I am just wishing him the best of luck. It was a really scary moment and I was maybe thinking about what had happened too much, but I was also trying to stay focused and get back to playing my game. It was tough.”
by vtcapsfan99 on Apr 25, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, in case you were wondering, Flash was also friends with Pavelec:
“I know Ondrej pretty well. I didn’t feel very good after what happened and I was just waiting for to hear how he was doing,” fellow Czech Republic native Tomas Fleischmann said. “It is hard to describe. I’m not a doctor and it is hard to say what happened. It was really tough to see him laying on the ice unconscious. I felt really bad. I don’t want to see anything like that anymore in my life.”
by vtcapsfan99 on Apr 25, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s right, I forgot that Neuvy did not play on the Czech Olympics last year. I gotta think that the world of Czech hockey players in the NHL is a small one though. What are there, maybe 50? They all know each other through agents, friends-of-friends, all that stuff. But perhaps he doesn’t give a damn about countrymen as competition.
Last summer he played in a tournament in the Czech Republic that was put together by Jagr (I believe his team won). I’ll go try to find the link during lunch to see if Prospal was on the team.
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Here’s Emily’s Fanshot of the tourney. Don’t see Prospal’s name on the linked article (though it maybe the Google translate making it difficult to find).
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As of 2009-2010, there are 48 active players from the Czech Republic. There are only 33 Russian players and 52 Swedes.
by redpezrocket on Apr 25, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Shocking there are only 33 Russians. I guess because we have so many. I thought every team had 3 or 4.
I think the Europeans have a reputation for being high maintenance, for not sacrificing their bodies too much, for not wanting the Cup as much as the North Americans, and they have a reputation for being less communicative…
So I think sometimes teams avoid Russians unless they’re an absolute no-brainer. Then we get Ovi, who destroyed the stereotype. He wants a cup, he’ll hit anyone in his way, he doesn’t care about personal stats, he wanted an English-speaking roommate, and he’s very outgoing.
by redpezrocket on Apr 25, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I was referring to Russians in my post. Cant speak for Redpez
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I guess a similar generalization can be made for eastern europeans…not sure if Kopitar has that sort of reputation though.
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speaking of Kopitar…I heard some time back he was attempting to get his US citizenship, but haven’t heard anything since.
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I didn’t watch Neuvy other than the goalie handshakes. I saw Varly talking to Lundqvist for a bit and I think Varly patted him on the head or shoulder or something. I was thinking that maybe they built up a relationship playing 7 games against each other 2 years ago but then Neuvy just played 5 against him? Who knows. Maybe Lundqvist also uses the Finnish goalie coach in the off-season that Varly is so close to.
by vtcapsfan99 on Apr 25, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
sorry left off the both of Ovie and Lundqvist smiling part in that first sentence.
by vtcapsfan99 on Apr 25, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
That was such a terrific NBC fail moment. Doc was talking about interesting points in the line, like the losing and winning goaltender meet. You see separate shots of both Lundy and Nuevy, and right when they’re about to shake hands – and Emrick says “Right there…” — the camera cuts away.
"I remembered when he said that and I kind of looked at him during the warm up and told myself that I got to shut these guys out tonight." - Michal Neuvirth, 02.06.11.
This annoyed the ever loving s#!t out of me and is prime example why NBC needs to fire their entire NHL camera crew and start from scratch. There’s no excuse for that – it’s the end of a playoff series for cripes sake.
I’m hoping that NBC will invest some money in this franchise now that they’ve locked it up, but I’m not holding my breath. And I’m really tired of Doc Emerick. Yes, he’s a legend, voice of hockey, blah blah blah. Whatever. With every passing game he grates on me more because his best days are clearly behind him and between the constant misidentification of players and the non sequitur ramblings about the population of moscow, its almost unlistenable.
I know people like to hate on Pierre, but I can’t do it. He clearly enjoys the heck out of the sport as was evidenced by his three minutes with Alzner and Carlson after the series (I mean, give ol’ bald domepiece credit for that one… good to see Carlzner get some prime time).
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by TheMattyHatty on Apr 25, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
(camera crew did their job. Hate on the director and technical director for choosing the shots and telling the guys behind the lens what to shoot)
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by Gould Old Days on Apr 25, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Being generally ignorant of the details of live sports production, I will now amend my comments accordingly.
NBC, get with the program, and get a new camera crew director.
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by TheMattyHatty on Apr 25, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
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by caps_shutterbug on Apr 25, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
looks at Ovie’s smile. I did see that he and Hank seemed to share a laugh. guess they’re buddies?
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by capsyoungguns on Apr 25, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
They did but I thought Neuvy did say more than just a casual handshake. Definitely Lundy and Ovi spoke the longest. I only watched it once. I definitely have a soft spot for Lundy.
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by capsyoungguns on Apr 25, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
According to those pics, Neuvy only shook Lundy’s hand. And that’s why we shouldn’t rely on our memories cuz I misremembered it pretty badly. Good to see that I remembered Ovi’s reaction correctly.
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by capsyoungguns on Apr 25, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I still don’t feel what Ovie said was meant to be trash talk. I think he made an observation of something he found interesting and the media and fans dubbed it trash talk.
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Sounds like trash talking to me.
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by Karl W on Apr 25, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
meh. Trash talk is usually more visceral in tone or word choice. Ovi was being pretty matter-of-fact IIRC. Bit of a Tempest in a tea cup.
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Exactly. He was pointing something out, he wasn’t taunting. The video showed even clearer than the transcript that there was no ulterior motive behind his words, but it was declared “trash talk” and most people ran with it. I think he was surprised when more was read into his words than he intended. If he learned anything from that, it was that anything he says can and will be twisted.
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I agree he has learned that the media is not his friend. I’m happy with how moderated he has been with his comments this whole season, not just in the playoffs.
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by capsyoungguns on Apr 25, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re taking issue with Ovi and Nicky playing basketball last year while waiting for their press conference to start? Of all the things I’d complain about last season, that would never come close to making the list for me. I’d start with the no-show in the beginning of game 5, and then the fact most of the team was out partying it up that night.
Agree with you on the water bottle comment. I’m glad that the only drama this series was from Boudreau.
by vtcapsfan99 on Apr 25, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I know, I have no complaints about players playing a pick up game to pass the time between their responsibilities. we know several of the players play a game of catch before each game – I don’t think anyone should be griping about that.
by redpezrocket on Apr 25, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I was talking about the off-ice attitude and how they handled the press and the drama. Too much of it IMO. As I recall what I mentioned was part of the same post game press conference: Nicky and Ovi played some bad basketball behind a curtain that got aired and then they came out and Ovi unwisely mocked their goaltender’s reaction to Fehr’s goal on him.
What do people like to say around here: “bad optics.”
Of course the first ten minutes of game five was the worst on-ice display from that series.
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by capsyoungguns on Apr 25, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I mean their playing got aired not the curtain. Bad writing. And for the record I don’t care that they played basketball to kill the time. Just find another place where it doesn’t become part of the storyline. Don’t give the media any ammo.
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by capsyoungguns on Apr 25, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, they could always talk and laugh with Kovy in the hall within earshot of BB and his presser after getting blown out by the Devils.
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One of the few times I was mad at Corey.
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by capsyoungguns on Apr 25, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I actually didn’t think the basketball was part of the storyline. I don’t recall them being criticized in the press for that. It was aired I think because people found it funny and entertaining. I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree that them playing basketball behind the curtain was “bad optics”.
by vtcapsfan99 on Apr 25, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t remember it being criticized. Its probably a good way for them to cool down. Don’t some guys ride bikes after the game?
My point has gotten way off track. It was about giving the media any fodder. Some ran with with it in a positive way and more in a negative way, especially up in Canada. No I am not saying that they shouldn’t have killed time by playing a pickup game. Nor am I saying that Ovi was trying to show disrespect to Halak with his comment. Or to Lunqvist the previous season.But I do think he was playing mind games. And his comments were used against him so that he became the storyline. The media narrative just spiraled out of control so that suddenly Ovi is trying to hurt some poor kid with a spray of snow. It was ridiculous.
Honestly, I prefer the less is more approach. Keep the media comments simple and on track. Let BB do the gamesmanship. Or just be gabby Gabby.
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by capsyoungguns on Apr 25, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t be writing Varly off quite yet. As we saw yesterday with Corey Schneider, injuries can happen on the flukiest of plays. And with the way players are crashing the nets these days, I’d be surprised if Neuvirth doesn’t get dinged up at some point and need a breather. I feel pretty confident that Varly is going to be in goal at some point if the Caps go deep in the playoffs.
I feel the same, that we could see Varly at some point if the Caps go deep. What I do appreciate is that there shouldn’t be any drama about it and that both goalies should do well. Watching the Flyers goalie debacle made me thankful for the partnership Varly and Neuvy have exhibited, and that BB hasn’t hurt the mental aspect of their respective games.
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by capsyoungguns on Apr 25, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions
While it was good discussion leading up to the postseason, I really thought the Caps could have gone with either guy to start the 1st round. Having two guys that can perform at a relatively high level is huge in the post season, especially when both are so young.
by 7-Hole Glove Side on Apr 25, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Varly’s done this hold the Rangers to almost no goals in the 1st round before too. I think Neuvy’s following is just as strong, and there are less injury concerns about him. I still think it’s a dead heat as far as who is better overall, but time will tell here.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Varly’s emergence was a bit of a surprise, however. He was called up at the end of the season and played well but not “omg he’s amazing” then was thrown into the playoffs a relative unknown to everyone and played brilliantly.
Its easy to get a lot of attention when you play very well for a small sample of games. Take Holtby’s second call up for example, one which made a a real statement in the fans and media enough to say “oh wow, does he have a chance at competing for #1?” but he’s down in Hershey and went 2-4 3.01gaa .893s%. Which may be part indicative of a lesser skilled Hershey team but isn’t exactly playoff numbers either.
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Can’t believe the Bears’ season is done. Ah well.
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by TheFuryUnleashed on Apr 25, 2011 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions
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I give an “E” for effort but an “F” for execution.
Forget the fact that the point system is arbitrary with no explanation, I have the most difficulty with this:
Jonathan Quick’s(notes) 40-save, 1-0 shutout in Philadelphia is quite a bit better than his 51-save, 5-0 shutout in Detroit on December 13 (not shown; Game Score: 102.26). Why? Mostly, the context — we probably all agree that winning a one-goal game is harder, or certainly more intense, than a five-goal game.
You would have a hard time convincing me Enroth’s 35 Save performance in a 2-1 win against Carolina is better than Jonathan Quick’s 51Sv shutout effort (second best this year, Top20 since the lockout) in Detroit because of the score alone.
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They also list Games 3 and 4 as Neuvirth’s best games of the playoffs so far, whereas my eyes tell me those were probably his two worst games of the series.
G3 was his worst. G4? He was very good… but if you had to pick a second-worst game, I suppose that would have to be it.
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Exactly. The second period of Game 4 was probably his worst goaltending of the whole series, but he made up for it with nearly a full game’s worth of shutout hockey in Periods 3 through 5. But that doesn’t change the fact that he was lights out in the three games at home.
I don’t even think he was all that bad in Game 4, Per. 2. Much of that was on his D (though Neuvy did look somewhat rattled for the first time in forever).
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Much of that was on his D
This is one of the limitations to any “goalie game score” IMO. It is hard to separate what is on the goalie and what is on the team in front of him without more detailed info.
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Beat me to it. I can’t really think of any goaltending statistic (other than Shootout Save %, I guess) that isn’t influenced one way or another by the play of the defense.
Shots on goal ain’t a perfect proxy, but it is safe to say in general that a better defense will give up fewer shots, all else equal. I think assessing goaltending has to start with sv %. You can try to control for factors (GTES sv %), but personally I’d throw most everything else out, including GAA and wins/losses.
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by Gould Old Days on Apr 25, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Personally, if we could track only soft goals, I’d throw out everything else but that. Of course, I’d rather have a bunch of things to look at in conjunction, but if we’re subscribing to the “silver bullet theory of goaltendnig stats” then I’ll take soft goals.
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if we’re subscribing to the "silver bullet theory of goaltendnig stats" then I’ll take soft goals.
I’d take even strength tied road Sv%, or just EV road Sv%
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Makes sense. That’s the go-to. It’s still much more dependent on defensive play than just looking at soft goals. Soft goals, by definition, controls for the quality of the D.
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but how exactly do you define a “soft” goal?
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I know how I do it, but I understand the subjective nature of it. But if we have people coding scoring chances then I don’t see why we can’t code soft goals. Same subjective stuff.
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they have a solid definition of scoring chance being a shot from beneath and between the dots and infront of the goal line. pretty easy to code that up…not necessarily completely indicative of all the true scoring chances a team has though
A soft goal could be from a weak shot from outside the dots, but you’re missing out on those shots that are screened. You’re also missing out on slow tricklers or bouncing pucks. It’s a little harder to code that up.
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It’s a rough indication of scoring chances, but definitely not a perfect definition. I would think you could make a similarly accurate definition with soft goals. Start with goals that come on non-scoring chances, and then you wouldn’t have to go too much farther. I don’t love it, I’d prefer to trust my eyes, but if you want a rough and dirty definition I think there’s your start.
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A scoring chance against Roberto Luongo against Chicago starts at the dots at the other end of the ice.
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really, can’t be any worse that the other guys the Flyers have thrown out there.
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In light of the recent discussions on Neuvy letting in some soft goals in the small space available over his shoulder when tight against the right post of the goal, I read that Ottawa saved the Caps season article and watched the highlights. I noticed that it looked like Neuvy let in another goal just like that in the Ottawa game that snapped the streak.
by vtcapsfan99 on Apr 25, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not sure what the point is of picking the 2nd worst performance of a very strong 5-game performance. I’ll go “big picture” to go out on a limb and say that 1.38 gaa/.946 sv% is a solid start to the playoffs.
by mechanicsville on Apr 25, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I like what he’s trying to do and it’s clearly in the infant stages but I agree that the points seem totally arbitrary and without and explanation they are tough to accept as a realistic measure of performance.
If nothing else he’s possibly getting the ball rolling for a new #fancystats category we can all geek out over.
by Beakers Lab on Apr 25, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Interesting article about the Sens game in December being a critical point in the season, as it ended the 8 game losing skid.
You could also make the point that the most critical game last season was the OT loss in Montreal w/ Ovie’s disallowed goal. W/o the extra point, Montreal doesn’t make the playoffs, and no Halak in round one.
So, Ontario good, Quebec bad. And I got to go to both games.
Two game 7’s are already locked and loaded. 3 more could be scheduled. MTL-BOS has games 6 and 7 scheduled back-to-back Tuesday and Wednesday.
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Since Washington is resting and not involved in any one of them: yes.
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by NGreenberg on Apr 25, 2011 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yes, that does make it possible to appreciate the other games.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Truth. I was watching last night’s VAN-CHI game and Nicci asked me: “How does it feel to watch a hockey game just for hockey’s sake?”
Felt good.
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Couldn’t agree more. Love watching a game without feeling any real emotional attachment (and, for guys like you and me, without any additional “responsibilities,” i.e. blogging, counting scoring chances, etc.).
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Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Apr 25, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
No foolin’. Just enjoying the games… No stress… Pick a team to root for, and if they lose, ah well, it’s still a great game! And a great series!
My wife and daughter were out of town all weekend. I think I watched 6 games from start to finish.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Anyone else rooting for Chicago just to see a President’s trophy winner perform an epic collapse worse than us? :)
Duh.
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Nah, I agree with D’oh—makes me feel dirty. I’m rooting for Chicago since I dislike Luongo quite a bit (even more after he wasn’t even sitting on the bench while Schneider was playing) and I hate Burrows.
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m actually more rooting for Chicago because I love seeing the puck in the net behind Luongo with a player standing in front of Luongo with the name “SEDIN” sewn to the jersey
On the XM radio feed, the Chicago announcers were yapping that Vancouver may be hiding an hand injury on Luongo. Don’t know if there’s any truth to it, but after hearing Schneider get hurt bad (leg cramps per Vancouver, but they also said he was dehydrated and had to get an IV), it just goes to show you that we’re going to need Holtby in the press box (and practicing at KCI).
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I guess the one good thing that came about Hershey;s early exit is that we have a backup-backup if needed that’ll be ready.
Kind of a sick way to look at the “upside” but I’m an IT guy. I’m all about having a Plan-B, Plan-C, Plan-D, etc….
I read yesterday that the bench design in Chicago doesn’t have enough space for the backup goalie.
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by capsyoungguns on Apr 25, 2011 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Is that only the visitor’s bench? Turco was sitting there for Chicago.
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2011 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but lest we forget: Turco Rules!
by discuit on Apr 25, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Dekanich said he sat on the bench when he backed up for NSH.
That'll make your weagle wink!
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Guess that’s why we should never believe everything we read. Have no clue if it’s true or not.
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by capsyoungguns on Apr 25, 2011 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I read on twitter that when Luongo was pulled in Game 4 in Chicago, Schneider came off the bench. Apparently there was room for Luongo on the bench, if he wanted to be there.
by vtcapsfan99 on Apr 25, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Makes sense.
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by capsyoungguns on Apr 25, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
That could have been meant metaphorically.
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no, whoever it was said they saw Schneider sitting on the bench in that game.
by vtcapsfan99 on Apr 25, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Dekanich was smart enough to find some space. Not every goalie can do that.
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by Killer_Carlson on Apr 25, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
It wouldn’t be the only arena with that issue, if true.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, have to agree. There’s schadenfreude and there’s mean. I’d like to see Chicago win for a short list of reasons.
1) It’ll make Mike Vogel Happy (and right he called it in 7) and anybody who has to answer to Caps fans as directly as he does, deserves happiness.
2) Chicago defying the Won & Done story that everybody has been writing since june is a good thing.
3) I have zero personal interest in Vancouver as a team or city.
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4) If San Jose holds on, Niemi faces the team he won a Stanley Cup with. I think that would be cool.
by Steve418290 on Apr 25, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes.
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by twistedlogic on Apr 25, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Nope. I’m rooting for Chicago because I’ve acquired a strong distaste for large swaths of Vancouver’s roster after watching them. It starts with Burrows and really doesn’t get much better from there.
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by Knee high to a duck on Apr 25, 2011 8:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
I think a few Van players have a style that could piss off the refs from time to time—they are really mouthy. Though there was one justice-serving sequence, with the score tied at 1: Burrows took a small swipe at Crawford post whistle, only to have 6’8" John Scott lurking like Hulk on the doorstep and he gives Burrows a shot to the face that put him on his ass. No call, and I’ll swear the boys in stripes had a good laugh over a beer about it later.
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by bigonetimer on Apr 25, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Favorite non-goal/save/post moment of the game for me, easily. I also loved Hjalmarsson (?) planting Henrik Sedin on the ice after Sedin gave Crawford a little push.
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Campbell, not Hjalmarsson. That was a pretty awesome dive by Hank.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Apr 25, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I havent watched much of that series. But the bits that I have watched have featured some epic Sedin diving.
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Yeah, mostly. Plenty of other reasons to root for Chicago, though. Just having this series go to 7 games is pretty awesome no matter who wins.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s part of the reason. And there’s the whole, “Chicago is in Luongo’s head” part, no matter how each team is seeded.
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by iwearstripes on Apr 25, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
or the Penguins? Because I wish that on them every damned day.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Good point. I’d make an exception for them. And, in fact, I will be rooting for TBL tonight.
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by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Im rooting for every series to go 7, and hoping all lower seeds come up on top.
What say you, hockey gods???
by RAGthaman on Apr 25, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
*clears throat…I believe you mocked my goat sacrifice on Saturday morning. How would you like your prepared sir? :-P
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by Bald Pollack on Apr 25, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
If you really got to enjoy that game with Pens fans, and you were actually required to stand up and say “Let’s Go Pens!” at those meaningless late-game goals(7-1 and 8-2)… Well, then… UNSHUN! That must’ve been pretty awesome.
But still. I’m ready to re-shun at an instant’s notice if you wear powder-blue Pens gear again!
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I really did. Though I was only there untll the first of the Pens’ goals. After that I had to book it down to the Phone Booth for the important game. And there is no more Pens gear in my future. Though the snark dripping from my. “Effing Lecavalier!” might have been picked-up on.
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On the one hand, I delight in the misery of everything wearing black and gold. On the other hand, I kind of want to be the ones to bounce Pittsburgh. But I realize that’s playing with fire, so I won’t be at all disappointed if Tampa does the job for us.
by Murshawursha on Apr 25, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Yea part of me wants to meet the Pens in the conference finals with Crosby back.
Makes it harder for us, but damned if Crosby vs Ovechkin matchups aren’t the most entertaining things to watch on tv… PERIOD (with the exception of the wire)
screw that. I want those guys bounced in the first round.
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by RedBirdie on Apr 25, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
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I have more disdain for PHI than PIT. I’d rather see PHI get embarassed and then a fireworks show vs PIT
Eh. A pox on both of their houses.
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by capsyoungguns on Apr 25, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I agree that Caps/Pens games are some of the very best. But I’m okay with keeping it in the regular season. I would like the road to the Cup finals to be as smooth as possible because the harder test will be beating the team from the West. Both the Pens and Flyers would try to injure as many of our players as possible.
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by capsyoungguns on Apr 25, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Anyone else hear the Pens announcers straight up call for the Pens to start running TBL players late in that game?
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Yep. Sad, not surprised.
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by Bald Pollack on Apr 25, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I think I’m glad that while we had the game on at the restaurant, we had it muted.
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We were speechless. On national TV, no less.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Those announcers were horrible. The most blatant homers ever. And then to suggest that it was time to hurt TB’s players was incredibly unprofessional.
We only stayed with the game because watching them fail so profoundly was spine-tinglingly good. I loved Byslma’s look of disgust at his players.
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by capsyoungguns on Apr 25, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
They are the worst. And every game they are behind in they have to bring up not having Malkin or Crosby. Just terrible.
Worst than Philly announcers, who cry for a call every time a flyer falls down.
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Kinda funny. While reading Philly’s SBN blog, they had a post blaming their season’s decline (and eventual #2 seed) on a “blown” call by a ref back in February. They had little to no evidence, and just blamed the season on the ref. Called him out by name and tracked everything he did this season.
Best part? Legit call.
Flyers are doing a good job on Buffalo, and that’s without Pronger.
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Richard’s head slam of the Buffalo player (Connelly?) was disgusting.
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by capsyoungguns on Apr 25, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
What are the odds of him actually being suspended for it?
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by IRockTheRed on Apr 25, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, that sucks.
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by IRockTheRed on Apr 25, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t mind seeing a Sabre take a nasty run at him tomorrow. If their season ends, they at least get some satisfaction.
Boy, some players just bring out the neanderthal in me.
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Yeah. And I hope Pronger’s hand is… tested… by the Sabres. Just to make sure it’s healthy and structurally sound.
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shame that Brooks Orpik can’t run that test.
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What have they got to lose? Richards ran a player and got off without so much as anyone really questioning the hit. Tyler Myers can throw an elbow on Richards and I’ll go buy a buffaslug sweater in a heartbeat.
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I think at the end of the first he had only played 2 minutes. Did he return in the 2nd? Wasn’t paying attention
Power play specialist only. I imagine he still can’t stick handle well.
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It would also spare us the inevitable moans of “You guys only won because we didn’t have Crosby and if the Pens would have been healthy we’d’ve destroyed you,” from the Pens fans. Because they would totally go there.
by Murshawursha on Apr 25, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
insert inevitable comments about “a cup is a cup” no matter what
I’d rather the path to the cup be more entertaining myself.
Bring on Pittsburg in the finals!
And I’d relish it. Fucking bring it on.
Between Richards and Carter there was one good shoulder. Semin had a busted thumb. Green was fat and had a bum shoulder. Carolina sucks. Lidstrom had one nut, Datsyuk missed half the series and had one foot. Shall we continue? Winners get lucky, lots of time it involves injuries. Accept the Cup and move the fuck on. You want to challenge someone else’s victory? It’s not gonna look pretty when they analyze yours.
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by Rob Parker on Apr 25, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions 13 recs
Yeah. And if there’s any Caps team I honestly believe can excorcise our past demons, it’s this one.
by Murshawursha on Apr 25, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Your bluntness really does make me laugh sometimes, F&B.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Apr 25, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
And that’s why we love you.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Apr 25, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
And Schultz broke his rib, and usually plays well aganist Malkin.
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by Sombrero Guy on Apr 25, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
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Live every week like its Matt Bradley week.
by CarltonBanks on Apr 25, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I will not give a shit on who had what individual player on their team when I am on F street watching the Cup roll down in a bus full of Caps in June.
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It would also spare us the inevitable moans of "You guys only won because we didn’t have Crosby and if the Pens would have been healthy we’d’ve destroyed you," from the Pens fans. Because they would totally go there.
Ain’t nothing going to stop them from saying that about any eventual EC champ — even if the team that puts them out of the playoffs is someone else. Because whoever it is will have gotten thorough without facing a healthy Pens team. And Hypothetical Malkin and Hypothetical Crosby always score the big goals.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Apr 25, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
When was the last time the Pens lost with Malkin and Crosby in the lineup? I can’t think of a single time.
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playoff series? 2010 2nd round. Halak’ed.
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That never happened. Tea was served. Check with Poland.
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by Rob Parker on Apr 25, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
If it hasn’t been said already, it’s fun having you here in the mornings man.
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by Bald Pollack on Apr 25, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I can’t check with Poland, it seems they’ve ceased to exist.
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ain’t no asterisk on a Stanley Cup.
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by ThePeerless on Apr 25, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Unless you’re redacting a Pocklington.
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by Bald Pollack on Apr 25, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
There is no asterik on the cup, but it would help save space
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by Knee high to a duck on Apr 25, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Let me steer it back on :)
I got the criteria correct for being put on the cup, correct? You basically have to play 40 reg season games or at least 1 finals game, right?
Are there any cases where a coach admitted he threw someone in the lineup during the finals just because he felt that person deserved their name on there?
It’s either 40 or 41 games, I’m not sure which off the top of my head. But yeah, it’s one game in the finals.
I’d be stunned if there weren’t at least one instance of this happening.
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by Knee high to a duck on Apr 25, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Does it specify a minimum number of minutes during the game? Or can you just play 10 minutes and get your name on the cup?
by redpezrocket on Apr 25, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Sit on the bench for 60 minutes of a SCF game, and your name is on the cup(if your team wins).
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Any real fan of a team that has won the Cup will not the “You won only because of …” thing because they will know what it takes to win the Cup. No team has ever lucked their way into the Stanley Cup, and no has not ever earned the Cup.
If the fans of a team that hasn’t won the Cup use that moan, then all that need be said is that the Cup was won…and your team still hasn’t done it.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Apr 25, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Two game 7’s are already locked and loaded
All the better for us. Better chances of playing a tired, banged up team
And by my count, that makes four teams that won’t won the Cup.
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by alisterio on Apr 25, 2011 8:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I was thinking this too this morning…By the end of day Tuesday we could be down to Washington, Detroit, and Nashville as Cup-eligible.
I hate to be debbie downer, but if I see a DET vs WSH and had to put some money on it, I’d probably secrelty put my money on detroit
What a wild weekend of hockey. I watched the PHI-BUF game thinking it was almost a lock that we were playing BUFFALO next. There goes that idea… for now.
And the Canucks game. Wow. Chicago just made them look RIDICULOUS.
Talk about a weekend of soft goaltending. Leighton was TERRIBLE. Schneider did ok but left in a weak goal. Luongo just looked silly on the OT goal.
I know very little about goaltending technique, but I’m pretty sure you’re not supposed to end up on your stomach there, Bobby Lu.
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Did you see Schneider’s last non-shootout goal against? He was behind the net and coughed it right up to a blackhawk. I guess it can be attributed to a “rookie mistake”. He seemed to do alright for the most part.
er.. non-penalty-shot goal
Sorry. Have trouble getting used to penalty shots that aren’t a part of the shootout now :)
Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t Chicago’s first goal also a result of a Schneider turnover behind the net?
I don’t know. I came in when it was 2-1. Vancouvcer has to be sweating bullets right now. As it’s been said over and over this weekend: Only three teams in the history of the NHL have come back from 3-0 decifits to win a series. Imagine it happening the YEAR after the third one, being the president’s trophy winner IN THE FIRST ROUND.
Can we possibly see the canuck coach getting fired if they lose game 7?
And it’s to their arch nemesis, as well. Can you imagine if we blew a 3-0 to the Pens?
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a little too easily
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Apr 25, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Should Vancouver blow this, it would make for a very awkward Vegas Awards show, since the coach, the goalie, and one of the twins will all be there.
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Any more awkward then 2010 Vegas with Ovi, Green, Theodore, BB there.
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My thought was really regarding the possibility of Vigneault getting fired should they lose to CHI, but good point.
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I gotcha…and I think I was wrong about BB being there…which is crazy he wasnt a finalist for the Adams last year…but GMGM was there.
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I can’t see Vigneault getting fired if they lose. Boudreau didn’t get fired last year.
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Boudreau hasn’t lost to the same team 3 years in a row, or squandered a 3-0 playoff lead.
And more importantly, Boudreau isn’t in a Canadian media market.
If the Canucks lose game 7, no amount of turnover would surprise me.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
How long has he been the coach?
Semi-related, it’s been big news that Tortorella got an extension a few months ago. What was interesting to me was that they said how long the term is (forget the $, you’d need the CIA for that – or Wikileaks). Do we even know how long Bruce’s contract is?
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I don’t get the media interest in coach’s contracts. When the GM feels like firing a coach, he’s fucking gone. Does it matter all that much to us how much the coach gets paid in severance?
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually, for budget-conscious teams, it might. I’ve heard it mentioned before.
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Was it this past ceremony or the one before where Ovi actually started talking about his late brother and got CUT OFF right in the middle of it
Now THAT was akward
No I think it was the Hart from 09…and it was brutal…I do think they cut Theo last year
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they cut Ovie last year, and he was like “I’m not leaving until I finish!” I think they let Theo make his entire speech, even if he did run over.
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wasn’t it Ovie last year with the lester b pearson award that got cut off? I remember last year was a total mess. whoever directed that show did a terrible job
Lindsey award (same thing). it was like everyone producing the show had partied with Ovie the night before.
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No they were partying with Kaner…You are right by the way, it was last year. The whole show was a disaster, didnt Keith get cut off too?
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I’ve only seen it in pieces.
BTW, you’re son is adorable. His face lit up when I showed him ovie’s signature on our BBQ smoker. Hope he had a great time at the game!
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Thanks. Yea we had a blast. He finally got a chance to see us close out a series. I felt bad when I took customers to Game 7 vs. Rags in ’09 instead of him. Thanks for the compliment, he is a tough little hockey player too;)
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If you think about it. It’s technically the least valuable trophy. You have a 1/32 chance of winning it. :)
Couldn’t the same thing be said about the Jennings, President’s, Campbell, Wales, and Staney?
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by Knee high to a duck on Apr 25, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Daniel may not be there
He may be mourning the death of his brother:
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by Bald Pollack on Apr 25, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
There supposed to be a photo there? I’m not seeing it.
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Maybe it’s referring to Dave Bolland making Henrik Sedin invisible?
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
An innocuous post-whistle shove by Campbell into Henrik who oversold it a little.
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by Bald Pollack on Apr 25, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions
His diving penalty last night?
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Might’ve been it. Henrik Sedin diving, Campbell cross-checking at the end of the 2nd, says boxscore.
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep.
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by Bald Pollack on Apr 25, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Whoever it was fell over like a domino when Campbell hit him.
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by J.P. on Apr 25, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
sigh for how easy you seemed to do that. So much to learn…
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by J.P. on Apr 25, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It’s a disgrace that Campbell got a penalty for that.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not hockey, but a dive nonetheless
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by wipps on Apr 25, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Find the one where the guy grabs an opponent’s hand and punches himself.
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How about this ….. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob7kXHhj8eM
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by TheFuryUnleashed on Apr 25, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
When he walks away he reminds me of Sean Astins character in 50 First Dates
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Jeez, the way he grabs at his heart. I can hear him saying “Elizabeth, I’m comng to join you, honey”
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by TheFuryUnleashed on Apr 25, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Please don’t forget a subject line for image posts so readers can collapse comments more easily.
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by Bald Pollack on Apr 25, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
especially when the image is a crotch.
Even I know that
by Brainumbc on Apr 25, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
eRec’t
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by Cap-O-Vens on Apr 25, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
The night Brian Campbell almost killed Henrik Sedin (like the night Jaromir Jagr almost killed Sean Avery).
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That was such a disgusting display. Reminded me of this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B53W-7tk4Uw
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Love that. One of my all-time faves.
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Reminds of the one where someone gets hit by the net and throws their gloves up in the air like they’ve been shot. There’s a great youtuber on it but I can’t remember who it was. Thought Alex Burrows but search turned up nothing. A rec for anyone who finds and posts.
by Dirk Dangler on Apr 25, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
you’re thinking of the night chris osgood almost killed mike ribeiro.
by Natty Bumppo on Apr 25, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Schneider played the puck somewhat slowly to Hamhuis…Bolland came in and destroyed Hamhuis, pass ended up bouncing off Bolland’s skate, Schneider tried to shovel it (or it somehow caromed to the slot) where Bickell one-timed it in.
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2011 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Both of Chicago’s first 2 goals came on Schneider misplaying the puck.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Apr 25, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Watching Schneider injuring himself to make that one save made me wince in sympathy. I had to look away from the replays.
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Goalie Guild tweeted that he thought Schneider hurt himself in the 2nd, but the PS just made it worse. I recall thinking Schneider was hurt sometime in the 2nd after getting hit in the crease, too.
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2011 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions
And while we’re picking on elite goalies, nice rebound, Miller. I know he doesn’t give an … expletive… about what I think, but if Ryan Miller can’t make 4 goals stand up then BUF has no business winning. Really, 3 should be enough, but Miller/Sabres D has let PHI come back from several goals down a few times this series. PHI is going to win game 7. I hate it.
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Couldn’t agree more. Oh well, at least Miller has never allowed a weak OT goal in a big game before. He’s allowed one.
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Vanek looked scary yesterday. I’d be more afraid of facing him than Miller at this point if we go up against BUF. Vanek’s got some sweet moves but his two goals yesterday were dirty ones in front of PHI’s net. Nothing scarier than a skilled superstar that’s also no afraid of sitting in front of the net.
I’m not impressed with Buffalo at all, never have been and still ain’t. Their offense yesterday after the first was worse than the Rangers’ in game 5.
They may get Roy and Hecht back for G7, though, FWIW.
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Roy would more than make up for Pominville… If he were 100%. A game 7 return doesn’t really scream “fully healed”.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Any odds on Richards sitting for game 7 b/c of his hit? Ryan Miller sure thinks he should.
by mechanicsville on Apr 25, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Link to Miller’s thoughts?
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No chance he gets suspended for game 7. Miller should just worry about his own business.
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And… no suspension indeed. Mirtle just tweeted.
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How on earth could there be one? Playoffs games are more important, and a game 7 is the mostest important. Plus, Richards doesn’t have a record, it’s not like he’s ever targeted a guy’s head before so why would you punish him for it?
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by Rob Parker on Apr 25, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Connolly is out though, right?
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by Killer_Carlson on Apr 25, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
In fariness, Luongo might have been playing for a shot closer to the ice, but the puck was deflected upward, necessitating the awkward use of the blocker and body. But it was an odd way to present a defensive position in the first place on his part — not quite butterfly, not quite “Hasek-like.” But he was fighting the puck all through the overtime. He never did look at all comfortable.
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Bobby Lou, fighting the puck in a pivotal game??
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Nawwww, couldn’t be.
Think he’s hearing Chelsea Dagger in his head before gametime tomorrow? Psychological warfare indeed…
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Tell me about it. That’s the only downside to a Chicago win tomorrow. More of THAT SONG.
But if LA can pull it off and dump the Sharks, wouldn’t a Detroit-Chicago 2nd round matchup kick major ass?
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Detroit fans are salivating like rabid dogs at that thought.
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yeah, Luongo’s confidence must be shattered. He never looked sharp from the time he came in and that puck — will far from routine, shouldn’t have resulted in such a juicy rebound, nor should the goalie have ended up totally out of position.
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Further evidence that winning a marquis event does not make a goalie a big game goalie, elite, or anything of the like. Canada won despite Luongo. Crosby should be giving Luongo a kickback on his endorsements because that game never makes it to OT without Lu’s help.
I had a small argument with K_C yesterday, I said Lu is overrated, he thinks he’s underrated.
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That extended contract. Oof. Makes me cringe.
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Fair question, I’m not exactly sure. It wasn’t face to face, but I’m sure when he comes around he’ll be able to defend himself.
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no, calling Bobby Lou “under rated” is not something that can be defended.
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no, calling Bobby Lou "under rated" is not something that can be defended.
If everyone agreed with me I wouldn’t think he was underrated, no?
Luongo has consistently been a top goalie in the regular season, both behind terrible FLA teams and good/great VAN teams. He’s been a Vezina finalist a few times and he should have at least one Vezina Trophy as well, but apparently having a low GAA behind the pre-lockout Devils is more impressive than putting up a .931 sv% behind a crappy FLA team. I don’t see how his regular season play can be ripped.
As far as the Olympics go, yeah, he wasn’t great. Nor did he have to be behind that team. But I don’t really see anyone giving him credit for coming up big in the Olympics. Crosby, Toews and others get a ton of credit, not Luongo. Not that he should get credit, but I don’t think he’s overrated from the Olympics. His ability as a big game goalie is still questioned at best, or in most cases just completely written off.
That brings us to his playoff performances. The numbers don’t look good, but 3 of his 7 playoff series have been against Chicago, and Chicago clearly owns him and the rest of Vancouver. In 2006-07 he was great against DAL and then against ANA despite losing that series in 5 games to the eventual Cup Champs. In 08-09 he dominated STL before losing to CHI. In 09-10 he was again good against LA (at least at even strength) before again losing his shit against CHI. And this year he is once again getting ripped by CHI.
So does Luongo suck in the playoffs or does he (and the rest of his team) just suck against CHI? I’m leaning more towards the latter at this point. At least until we see Luongo implode some other teams.
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by Killer_Carlson on Apr 25, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Crosby, Toews and others get a ton of credit, not Luongo
that first one doesn’t deserve any credit. He only bothered to show up for one game of a two-week tourny.
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That is irrelevant to the debate on Luongo, though.
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by Killer_Carlson on Apr 25, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Every single goalie in the Olympics out-played Luongo.
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by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
True. I don’t get why people think Luongo is good. I never really get it — he has great vision but every other aspect of his game is suspect.
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His career Sv% in the regular season is excellent
But then…
Take a look at his playoffs sv% and notice the trend
And Nabokov. And Kipprusoff.
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by Killer_Carlson on Apr 25, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
honestly, I thought Nabokov was better. Put Luongo behind that awful KHL defense and Nabby behind Canada’s defense and see how that pans out. Kipper I thought was good, too. Luongo was the dog of all the NHL goalies with Hiller/Miller being the best.
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by sydtron on Apr 25, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Disagree. Luongo let up some questionable goals (and really not even that many since he gave up very few overall, IIRC), but wasn’t really giving up back breakers. Nabokov deserves a fair share of blame for the Russia meltdown since instead of stemming the Canadian tide in the first period he took the lock off the flood gates with a terrible goal. Then he started the 2nd period with another crappy goal and it was all over (but Bykov deserves some blame for that). Kipper’s meltdown in the elimination rounds was also far worse than anything Luongo did.
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by Killer_Carlson on Apr 25, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree to disagree. Nabokov was left out on his own so often while the D men played paddy cake in the office or somewhere else on the ice.
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by sydtron on Apr 25, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That is true, I just don’t think Luongo was bad in the Olympics. He wasn’t great, but he wasn’t bad either. We saw what happened when a goalie plays badly behind Team Canada, and that was when Brodeur was in net. Luongo was pretty average, but that’s all Canada needed.
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by Killer_Carlson on Apr 25, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
If Team USA gets their act together, they’re unstoppable. Fortunately for Canada, that will never happen.
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What do you mean? USA only had two forwards that would crack Team Canada (Parise and Kesler, though second is debatable) and only one defenseman (Suter, maybe Rafalski though I doubt it). If Canada keeps their act together, they’re unstoppable, more like.
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Yet it took a spectacular play from Iginla with a strong finish by Crosby in order for Canada to win.
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The only guy I could see Suter displacing on the Team Canada roster was Seabrook, but he was there because he and Keith played together so much. I’m not sure he actually makes it if the same people are making the selections.
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by Knee high to a duck on Apr 25, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Luongo is the most underrated goalie in hockey. Nobody outside the Southeast division really realizes how good he is.
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by Gould Old Days on Apr 25, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he is overrated just because he’s mentioned in the same breath as all of the other elite goalies. Can you be elite when a team who has a rotating cast mentally and physically destroys you every time you play them? At this point he’s basically getting beaten by the Chicago Blackhawks crest.
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by zephyr on Apr 25, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It’s not exactly a rotating cast. The core players have been there all three times, it’s the same coach, same style of play. Luongo has been going up against more than just the same logo the past three years. It’s also not just him that is failing, his team is doing it as well. His backup didn’t exactly do any better last night, pretty much gift wrapping the first two goals for the Hawks.
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by Killer_Carlson on Apr 25, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought his backup did fine while in the crease. Outside the crease…
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by Carl Putnam on Apr 25, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nucks Misconduct
Corsi ratings strongly favoured the Canucks. Unfortunately, there is no stat that calculates how many times your goaltender inexplicably falls on his face in overtime.
http://www.nucksmisconduct.com/2011/4/25/2132364/canucks-hawks-game-6-corsi-ratings
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I believe that’s know as the Luongo rating.
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by RedBirdie on Apr 25, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Buffalo’s radio guys sure thought it was a lock that they’d be playing Washington….until god decided to smite them in the form of a Scott Harnell game tying goal.
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Reading the sabres boards yesterday during the game, you thought they had already won the series. The hockey gods had other ideas though.
What say you, hockey gods???
Absolutely criminal to get those gift goals from leighton and arguably one from Bouch yesterday and not have 4 goals stand up. I don’t fear Buffalo at all.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I got to think we play Friday – Sunday, unless we play Buffalo. If it’s Buffalo, they may try to squeeze us into a Thursday – Saturday.
Buffalo will be gassed for a game one on Thursday. Does anyone think Thursday – Saturday is out of the question?
It’s not. One day between series would not be unusual.
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Also, if Boston wins game 6, Pittsburgh wins game 6, and Philly wins game 7, we could play Pittsburgh on Thursday – Saturday as well.
So, the CRtC clip with Carlzner was illuminating, but snipped off before Pierre’s proclamation that 27-74 is the best young pair in the NHL right now. I’d give the title to Suter-Weber myself, but the gap is narrowing. Thoughts?
"We know the answers have to come from this room," Hendricks said. "They're in here."
You’re correct. Maybe Pierre doesn’t consider S-W “young.” Or he’s being typically hyperbolic.
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I’ll guess hyperbolic, but more likely catering to the home crowd. On the FSN Tennessee broadcast last night he proclaimed Nashville the loudest building in the NHL.
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Pierre is nothing if not understated and reserved. But I actually dig it about him – he’s genuinely enthusiastic and just flat-out loves the game.
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his recall of players’ hometowns and where they played junior, who coached them, etc., is encyclopaedic.
"We know the answers have to come from this room," Hendricks said. "They're in here."
(or written on a sheet of paper in front of him)
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Apr 25, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I also like him. I’ll give him credit for his knowledge of the players and the game.
On a broader note, rewatching Saturday’s game yesterday made me realize how much the announcers were sniffing the jocks of the Capitals. My goodness. It was embarrassing.
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Related to that last sentence, I’m looking forward to today’s “History Will Be Made” commercial.
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by Bald Pollack on Apr 25, 2011 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe it’ll read “History Will Be Made, Y’all”
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HWBM, parts one and two. Nashville style.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2011 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
… and the Caps’ homemade version as well.
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Did they play that in-game? I swear I don’t remember seeing it.
Don’t try to figure Sasha out. Just ride the wave.
It was late in the game when the Caps were comfortably ahead. Would look pretty silly if they played that and the Rags came back and won…
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Apr 25, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
(the first one’s via the NHL from game 5, second one’s via the Preds from game 6)
Lemme quote the late, great Colonel Sanders. He said "I'm too drunk to taste this chicken."
by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2011 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Except…that’s correct.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2011 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think it’s too far out a limb to say they’re the top pair in the NHL, period.
"We know the answers have to come from this room," Hendricks said. "They're in here."
I’m referring to the statement about the crowd. The notion that 6/20 are the top pair in the NHL is absolutely correct.
Lemme quote the late, great Colonel Sanders. He said "I'm too drunk to taste this chicken."
by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, Suter’s 26, Weber 25. Not that young anymore.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2011 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Way to make some of us feel old this morning.
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All depends on defining your terms. I suspect he means best ELC pair, but if he means the traditional sense of young, like under 30, then yeah it has to be the Preds’ boys. Although Burton is off his gourd if he thinks Weber has a chance at winning the Conn Smythe.
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Ha. That was pretty obviously hyperbole stemming from the moment. He did have an incredible series but the CS would require at least making the SCF and…yeah.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2011 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Tangentially related, Wyshynski has Mike Fisher at no. 5 in his Conn Smythe watch. Way to not watch the series, Greg.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I noticed that. Made me go “huh?” and I haven’t even watched.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, weird. Fisher’s been good, but just the fourth best skater after Tootoo (!), Weber, and Suter.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I love Tootoo. Good for him, scoring almost a point per game, clean & serene. He’s one tough injun.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Tootoo is a shoe in for the Masterton. Oh, wait, the guy who faced his addiction and overcame it wasn’t nominated?
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He’s probably happy not to have a light shined on his struggles.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess so. It’s still something nice to see. It came up yesterday how there are hockey player alcoholics, then there’s Patrick Kane. Looks like Tootoo went that far out and came back and that is something he should be proud of.
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He’ll be the nominee next year.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry to be part of the PC brigade, but Tootoo’s not an “injun,” he’s Inuit as far as I know.
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All I know is his name is Tootoo, and his number is 22. He could be my favorite player, indian or not.
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Born 2/22, too.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
No sir. Dead serious.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Wiki says 2/2/83. That’s crazy.
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
ack, I had that wrong – birthdate’s 2/2, not 2/22. But still.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
[Added Homer McF’s Neuvy post to the first bullet]
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Arnott can slam a revolving door.
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I saw a shirt this weekend that said something on the front about Arnott (maybe his army or something similar) but on the back it had a 44 and right above it ’Semin Whisperer". Needless to say it was an awesome shirt.
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Of course he would. Arnott has the Argonauts on his side.
by mechanicsville on Apr 25, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
But I must have the confidence and I must be worthy of the great Arnott who does all things perfectly even with the pain of an undisclosed lower body injury.
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Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Apr 25, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
Excellent.
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by capsyoungguns on Apr 25, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m really happy that Nashville finally won a series, but the one thing I took from those games is that Selanne is still a very dangerous offensive player. He’s an amazing talent.
Yea Selanne is still killin it. I am glad to see the Ducks drop from the Tourney. I think they are a better team then the Preds.
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I think they are a better team then the Preds.
By, uh, what unit of measurement? 7-3 against ’em this season.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2011 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions
CB…Happy for the Preds…I like the Caps matching up to the Preds in the Cup more than I like the matchup with the Ducks…thats all I meant
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The Ducks would be the true test of Carlzner…the Preds, the true test of the Caps’ depth on D. I agree that I like Nashville more, simply because the Anaheim PP scares me a lot.
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
The respect the Ducks have gotten around here makes me shake my head. They have a soft defensive corps, 2 good lines, and a duo of Emery/Ellis in net. How does that scare anyone?
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They scored 6 goals on us in February.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
thank god they had that soft defensive corps! yay, 7 goals!
that was a weird, weird game.
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by Carl Putnam on Apr 25, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
must have been incredibly fun and incredibly frustrating.
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Pretty much. It was a two-fer for me given how much I detest the Ducks and everything around them. Of course, the Ducks media were as classy as the organization giving Perry the first star instead of Semin.
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by Carl Putnam on Apr 25, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Eh, I think we’ve pretty much established that the stars of the game are overrated.
Unless it’s our guys on home ice, of course.
Don’t try to figure Sasha out. Just ride the wave.
Certainly. However, in some towns the home media actually pays attention and does a decent job most nights. In Anaheim, the OC Register and the FSN TV crew there are complete homers. Well Hayward isn’t just a homer, he’s also clueless. He gives Errey a run for his money.
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by Carl Putnam on Apr 25, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Well I agree with your assessment, and I think the DC media does a pretty fair job. But we’ve been outraged a number of times this year after a road win. It’s easier to just roll with it. Not to say I haven’t been as mystified as everyone else, though.
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I can’t roll with it when it comes to the Ducks. They have pretty much passed the Pens on my list. Any possible grievance I take note of. Nice to see their arrogance put in check yesterday.
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by Carl Putnam on Apr 25, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
My favorite of the playoffs was the Philly media giving a Flyer the 1st star after a 1-0 Buffalo win.
by wickedwitch on Apr 25, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
In their defense, they’d probably get killed in the parking lot if they didn’t pick a Flyer.
by Dirk Dangler on Apr 25, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Didn’t the Rangers do that as well?
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by Alz in the family on Apr 25, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m more scared of a team that wins despite poor goaltending—since if their goaltending gets hot, they’re unbeatable—rather than a team that needs their goaltending to win, since if it goes cold, they’re done (I’m not sure that makes logical sense but that’s what I feel).
I’ve felt all along Anaheim sucks at ES but their strong PP (and while Hiller was there, goaltending) was saving them. In my opinion, there’s much more potential there for explosiveness than a team that’s decent at ES and has good goaltending, but not much else.
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I get what you are saying. However, if you stay disciplined against them they are very beatable. If you aren’t then they make you pay. It’s like playing Steve Downie on every shift all night. Just ignore the elbows, shoves, trips, etc. and focus on your own game.
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by Carl Putnam on Apr 25, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Then you must REALLY fear Philly.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep. And it’s why I’m not scared of Boston.
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m more scared of a team that wins despite poor goaltending—since if their goaltending gets hot, they’re unbeatable—rather than a team that needs their goaltending to win, since if it goes cold, they’re done (I’m not sure that makes logical sense but that’s what I feel).
Interestingly enough, that’s how Nashville won the series – Rinne was never dominant and at times awful.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Just eat your crow, man. :D
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
If it makes you feel any better, I was pulling for Nashville solely because you post here so often, and I knew it’d make you happy.
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by iwearstripes on Apr 25, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
But you’re also a jerk.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
You kid because you love.
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by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Norris nominees today; any guesses?
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Lidstrom, Weber, Yandle.
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Visnovsky? (who was more or less invisible in the series, btw)
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
But what about Letang?
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Nah, without Crosby his point total dropped, and the MSM stopped fawning over him (I think). It’s still good, but there are several guys I like better.
As for Visnovsky, I think it’s between him and Yandle for the third spot, and I think they’d like the storyline of the young D from the desert rather than Lubo.
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Schultz
Wow.
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I don’t know whether it’s awesome or sad that my oft-professed love for Double Nickel could lead someone to miss that joke…
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To be fair, lots of people JIP.
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by Bald Pollack on Apr 25, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I assumed it was a joke, but I also did JIP (if BP’s acronym down below means Joined In Progress).
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It does. No worries though, there’s oodles of lore to go through.
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by Bald Pollack on Apr 25, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Green, Carlson, Hannan
oh wait, you mean real guesses.
Lidstrom, Weber, Visnovsky.
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Often labelled post-season chokers, former Caps teams would almost certainly have crumbled after being down 3-0 to the Rangers after 40 minutes in Game 4. But this group responded by scoring three third-period goals before winning in overtime. In the end, it could end up being the turning point for this franchise.
So it’s a turning point if they get past the 2nd round or else it’s irrelevant?
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Right turn 1: Losing in Game 7 to the flyers
Right turn 2: Coming back to beat the Rags 3-1
Right turn 3: Losing 4 straight games to MTL
There were a lot of mistakes and rights along the way, but finally we are going left.
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by D'ohboy on Apr 25, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
abortions for some, miniature american flags for others…
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by Alz in the family on Apr 25, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Turning point was the game 4 comeback.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
To quoth Homer Simpson, bard of Springfield, “best turning point so far…”
by mechanicsville on Apr 25, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
If you had to pick one today… Heck, Bruce might pick Ottawa in December.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m with you on Game 4 comeback. Wherever they “turned”, I’m pleased the Caps are headed in the right direction for now…advancing to Round 2.
by mechanicsville on Apr 25, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Haha, I read that and it made me giggle. Turning point for this franchise? What a lubriciously bold statement. Sorry, but the Caps have gone to the Cup finals before, so winning a first, second or even third round series is no “turning point”. Hell, this series isn’t even a “turning point” for the current generation of Caps players, nevermind the entire franchise.
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I can’t remember from 2009, but do you do "Capital Ups and Downs" after each playoff series? Was thinking about doing one but didn’t want to jump the gun.
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We weren’t planning on doing one, no.
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Ehh, started to get in to it and after about 6 players realized what a pain in the arse it is to come up with an analysis for each player. Thanks so much to you and the contributors for what you do!
My highlights:
Neuvy’s .946 SV% and 1.38 GAA are pop off the stats page and slap you in the face good, however, the Caps skaters and Rangers offense should be credited for their contribution to those numbers as well. While I do anticipate more solid play in round 2, I think we should temper any expectations for those numbers to hold steady through the playoffs.
Isn’t it nice to know the Caps have Varly ready to roll if needed? See Flyers, Philadelphia.
Before the playoffs JP asked how long will it take Mike Green to get back in top form after essentially a two-month lay-off. The answer? Not long. Green played what I thought to be his best playoff series as a Capital. 1 goal and 4 assists in 5 games. If Mike can learn to stop blocking shots with his head we will be in good shape.
by 7-Hole Glove Side on Apr 25, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
was killing time last night and caught Barry Melrose on sportscenter….well worth watching. he ripped Philly. he ripped Buffalo. He called the series a “trainwreck that you can’t look away from.”
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Sounds about right. The Flyers goaltending is so bad, it’s pathetic. And their defense isn’t all that much better, quite frankly.
And Buffalo, alternating between surrendering zero goals and surrendering 5 goals. WTF? Isn’t inconsistency supposed to doom you in the playoffs?
Whatever the case, it’ll be one hell of a hockey night on Tuesday!
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Mike Milbury calling out the Flyers goaltending as evidence of an “Organizational Failure” was kind of hilarious.
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by iwearstripes on Apr 25, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
he’s an expert!
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Apr 25, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
the Wise piece reminds me that despite the man being an utter buffon, he’s an immensely gifted writer. Shame he squanders it so much of the time. Good work today, though.
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How can you be an utter buffoon and an immensely gifted writer? I think that sometimes, his buffoonery is very tame and he actually doesn’t say something stupid for minutes at a time.
Varly, Varly...errrrrr.....NEU-VY, NEU-VY! Pp
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by Bald Pollack on Apr 25, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Compared to dead-tree stuff? God yes.
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by Bald Pollack on Apr 25, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
because a guy like Wise can weave a story and it seems very effortless, no matter the subject (something light like this, or the Brashear piece). But it doesn’t make him any less of a buffon when he opens his mouth, or decides to write on stuff he doesn’t really get.
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Just listen to him interview Caps players on 106.7 and tell me he’s not a buffoon. He just had Bradley on and the second question is " So did Brooks Lacih bite Sean Avery"?
he’s a total buffon, but one that has an gift for writing. and if he would just stick to what he does best—writing these human interest features—the world would be a better place.
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by RedBirdie on Apr 25, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Actually,
This guy is a total Buffon.
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by Bald Pollack on Apr 25, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
In all these years, I don’t understand why nobody’s ever unwrapped the foil on that thing to get the chocolate inside.
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by Gould Old Days on Apr 25, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Psst…Birdie…I think you mean “buffoon.”
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How can you be an utter buffoon and an immensely gifted writer?
Somewhere, Arthur Conan Doyle just looked up from a photograph of fairies
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by Gould Old Days on Apr 25, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
And looking at the picture accompanying the article, I am struck by two things.
First, a lesson, kids… look the puck into the glove.
Second, Neuvirth is an equal opportunity employer… Bauer mask, Reebok stick, Vaughn glove (and presumably pads).
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by ThePeerless on Apr 25, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I think a third lesson is to never, ever read the comments on WaPo. People saying that Neuvy isn’t that good, or just got lucky? Or that they would rather have had Holtby in net…or that rebound control is Neuvy’s weakness? Makes my head spin.
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I will never again think “bad rebound control” and not picture Luongo flopping on the ice last night.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Apr 25, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Lit up like Christmas trees
Bike ride, cupcakes, and dinner later with Sasha at Glory Days. A nice relaxes after a series win.
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Well anything is better than an early summer…on a Turkish cruise ship or anywhere else. But if I can find better food than Glory Days on my salary, I can’t imagine why Ovechkin and Sasha would put one foot in the place.
oh, right. Glory Days…Old Glory. Always getting those mixed up.
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Yes he was relaxes all over Georgetown. He killed last night them!!!!!!!
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by Cap-O-Vens on Apr 25, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Helmet?
But no helmet? It’s not in his contract? I was actually looking at him riding in flip-flops, remembering as a child riding a trike one time barefoot and getting my big toe caught in the spokes. Don’t even ask how that can happen, but it did.
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by ThePeerless on Apr 25, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can barely get my older kids to wear them anymore, so mostly joking about it. However, I always am curious about what other activities/sports these athletes are prohibited to engage in by contract. I always hear about skiing, but does that include water skiing, and what else?
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Motorcycles are sometimes off limits. I’m not sure I’ve ever heard of anything relating to regular bicycles, but it would be pretty hilarious if GMGM had included a mommy clause requiring Ovie to wear a bike helmet and docked him 300K for the above picture.
I think I’d care more about having a clause regarding max speed limit allowed.
by vtcapsfan99 on Apr 25, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
HANS
So maybe what Ovi really needs is the HANS device while driving the Batmobile.
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Actually, remember that a couple of UMD football players were injured on scooters during the season this year. IIRC, Friedgen banned players from using them after that.
by DerwoodCapsMom on Apr 25, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Presumably sky-diving, bungee jumping, rock climbing – things like that.
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by redpezrocket on Apr 25, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea, I definitely lost my man card last night on the way to Easter Dinner, I was checking the feed and I saw this pic of Ovi, I showed it to my wife and said…. “geez, riding a bike in flipflops is dangerous, I wonder how Ted feels about this.”
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Or you are getting older – and you have kids. Kids will do that to you.
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Yes both, Older and 3 kids…and they have made me very, very soft…especially the girls
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There really is danger lurking around every corner, you know! We have to get there first and snuff it out before it takes the children! (I just have boys, and they’ll do it to you even more because they are a little reckless.)
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I knew I had changed when my son was like 1 and I was in Vegas at the Stratosphere and I was too scared to get on the rides at the top…which was really bizarre for me because I was a nutcase as a teen.
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The thought of boys being even more reckless is very scary, as my 2yo daughter on Saturday tried to do a tumble on a slide (thankfully, a short one, and I was close enough to catch her).
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Well, I do think generally it’s true, but certainly girls can be just as reckless. Of my 3 boys, one is certainly much more of a risk taker than the other 2, but they’re not slouches in that department. A lot of seems to be the ol’ competitive nature and need to show up the other guy.
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This has gotten OT.
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by Knee high to a duck on Apr 25, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Or, crashing on a bike and lucking out that your head hit dirt instead of rock. That made me go from rarely wearing a helmet to always wearing a helmet on a bicycle.
If not wearing a helmet is manly then we should all be worshiping Gary Busey.
There are two types of people in this world; those who like Styx and those who are afraid to admit to it.
Took care of a kid in the ED who broke her foot (across the base of 4 toes) because she was barefoot on a scooter. Not a smart move. Wearing a helmet is just a no brainer IMO
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by caps_shutterbug on Apr 25, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Wearing a helmet is just a no brainer IMO
Just had to phrase it that way, didn’t you?
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by Gould Old Days on Apr 25, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Couldn’t help myself
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by caps_shutterbug on Apr 25, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
At our house, we call not wearing a helmet Darwinism…
by DerwoodCapsMom on Apr 25, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
And Alzner hit the aquarium while Carlson enjoyed his #rotfest.
That'll make your weagle wink!
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey CB, what’s it like in Nashville today? Everyone feeling rather euphoric?
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It’s kind of a combination of things – there’s elation, then a lot of relief, but more than anything a sense of unsatisfaction. I think the fans and team know that if they play their game, there could be many more hockey games to be won. Ryan Suter said it best last night: “Nobody remembers who wins the first round”.
In all, the reaction I’ve seen is about like I’d like. Excitement, but everyone wants more.
Lemme quote the late, great Colonel Sanders. He said "I'm too drunk to taste this chicken."
by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but people sure remembered who has never won a first round. Now you can say there’s one more thing that makes NSH unlike CBJ.
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Yes indeed.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Or Phoenix :(
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by Gould Old Days on Apr 25, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
YAY YAY YAY. Katie tweeted that Wideman’s in pads for the first time since his injury.
That'll make your weagle wink!
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YEAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! I have such Wideman love. But the question here is…When Wideman is ready, and assuming Green is ok…who sits out?
I wouldn’t want to be Bruce and have to make that decision because none of the D-man deserve to sit. Wideman may just have to bide his time until a move becomes obvious (injury, bad play).
I’m not ready to assume Green is OK yet.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I think D.Wide is an instant insert.
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I think 4Skine sits, I really thought his play was solid vs the Rags. but I dont think the Rags have much of an Offense. And what offense they do have comes from trying to create from below the goal line which I feel is JEs strength. Part of who sits I think is based on who we play. The other part is:
23-52
27-74
55-6
gives BB that R(puckmover) – L(sah) that he loves so much.
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We would be instantly softer
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After watching Chicago-Vancouver last night…not such a big deal on the back end. Both sets of D could flat-out skate, and that helped break a lot of the in-zone pressure situations and avoid the forecheck (and its physicality). I’m sure one of the Caps’ pairings is getting easier minutes, slot Wideman on that pair. It’s not like he’s unreliable or has to be particularly sheltered.
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree. I just think JE4 brings some nastiness that the team really doesnt have without him. I guess MH26 would have to step that up and we would #needmorebradley. But like I said it really depends who we play.
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for your own sake…dont type that here
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by Cap-O-Vens on Apr 25, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
yes, remember if you’re going to give anyone a derogatory name make sure is someone who plays for the capitals
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by alisterio on Apr 25, 2011 9:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
But he’s the only Skin playing after the regular season is over.
/bad.
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by iwearstripes on Apr 25, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
love that.
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The Caps have been winning with tight defense lately, and BB doesn’t like to mess with a winning lineup. Wideman might have to wait until the Caps lose a game.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Wideman will come in and will be sent back out the first time a goal is scored with him in the crease…which will be Game 1.
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Hypothetical scenario
Pretend you’re not a caps fan or a detroit fan for a moment (the latter isn’t hard)
If the two met in the finals: From an HONEST, objective perspective who do you think would win?
DET.
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by Rob Parker on Apr 25, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Definitely Detroit, but it would depend on injuries and other factors. But Detroit is a better team, in a vacuum.
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by Knee high to a duck on Apr 25, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
that’s assuming they can stay healthy through 2 more rounds.
by Beakers Lab on Apr 25, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Which is strongly implicit in
but it would depend on injuries and other factors.
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by Knee high to a duck on Apr 25, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
oh so now I actually have to pay attention to what I’m reading? man the standards around here are getting insanely high
by Beakers Lab on Apr 25, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Hah, if we had to do that I’d have been long since booted.
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by Knee high to a duck on Apr 25, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
you think I can be honest and objective with those two teams?
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Yea I know it’s asking a lot. Kind of forcing people to looks at the Caps more objectively then they have been just for a moment
and I’ve been trashing talking like an NBA player all season long. and I’ve been talking a really big game about who has the superior goaltending.
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no, but good god, the man doesn’t shut up about it. I hope the Caps sweep the Wings this year.
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well, to be 100% honest, I’m kinda hoping Caps in 5. I wanna see them win on home ice. I want to be there.
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I had this dream, at the beginning of March, that the Caps would win in 6, vs. Detroit, on home ice. And then the Caps had to go and finish with a better record and mess my dream up!
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I want to be there
Yes. That is the dream…
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
objective perspective
Does not compute.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
The view from nowhere, dude. How hard is that to picture? :)
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by Rainbow, Kitty, Beer on Apr 25, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
All things being equal, the wings, a lot guys that have “been there before”
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I’d agree. However, Howard looked more than serviceable in round 1.
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by Carl Putnam on Apr 25, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
serviceable will not be enough to overcome The Truth. or at least that’s what I keep telling myself.
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If Tampa got into his head (on, and Johnson’s too) on Saturday, it could be Tampa in round two. I don’t have much confidence in either Buffalo or Montreal right now.
Don’t try to figure Sasha out. Just ride the wave.
bring on Tampa and their non-existent defense.
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Bring on anyone left in the East.
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by Carl Putnam on Apr 25, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Healthy teams, Detroit. As it stands, Detroit. These Caps + Wideman and Detroit still without Z, Washington.
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Detriot without Zettes just isn’t worth watching (I jest.)
ooooh, Alzner and Zetterberg could have a beard-off.
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Right now, Weber has the best playoff beard. He looks like an extra from a Civil War movie who is way too into it.
Zetterberg and Alzner are so far behind him they need a telescope.
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Weber started way early, like Paul Mara.
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by Knee high to a duck on Apr 25, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
March, to be exact.
Lemme quote the late, great Colonel Sanders. He said "I'm too drunk to taste this chicken."
by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
There’s not all that many players who took the playoff beard rules seriously.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Everything I’m hearing says he’s likely to be back sometime in round 2.
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by Carl Putnam on Apr 25, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
With Wideman back, very tough to tell.
Det in 6 or Caps in 7.
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Seems like a puck to the face isn’t the worst thing that’s happened to Cody Eakin’s lip this year…
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by Gould Old Days on Apr 25, 2011 10:18 AM EDT reply actions
Whatever. It’s working for him.
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by bigonetimer on Apr 25, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe Sarge would make a good Avatar for you. But he was not the best Cap in Rd 1. He played well but i can name 5 that played better.
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Disagree, wasn’t even on the short list if you ignore F and G.
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Fair to say he doesn’t get the pub he should for being a +5 with no goals against.
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I didn’t say he was bad, those numbers are good, but most of us (with at least one noteworthy dissenter) think the Rags were pretty thin up front and so Schultz wasn’t facing very tough competition. The two lines that could threaten were going up against Carlznerson and/or Hannan the whole time.
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by Rob Parker on Apr 25, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Conn Smythe leaders right now?
Selanne (Anaheim eliminated)
MSL
Datsyuk
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If Neuvy keeps it up, sure. I think the Rangers were offensively limited but Neuvirth was challenged enough to put him in the list. The Caps are going to struggle the most against teams with big guys who can out muscle our D men since they’re small or weak.
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He has been so for real. 2 months + I have been really impressed by him.
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just for comparison, PD’s morning Conn Smythe watch is:
1. Pavel Datsyuk, Detroit Red Wings
2. Michal Neuvirth, Washington Capitals
3. Ryane Clowe(notes), San Jose Sharks
I presume no one really cares about 4-10 on that list.
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Number 5 makes no sense. Number 6 will annoy Caps fans, Sabres fans, and Coyotes fans equally, but for different reasons.
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by Carl Putnam on Apr 25, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I also have no idea how number 9 is on there.
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Same here. He’s underperformed.
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by Carl Putnam on Apr 25, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, if you want a Pred to include for Conn Smythe, it’d be Weber.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Caps MVP list of round 1, imo
1) Ovechkin
2) MN30
3) Green
4) Semin
5) Marcus Johansson
6)Shultz
7) Laich
8) Carlznerson
10) Hannan.
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Nice list, but I think I’d put Hannan above the rest of the defense except for maybe Green. I honestly can’t recall Hannan making one single mistake and he impressed me several times with his defensive play. I can recall the Carlzner duo making some mistakes. Also, Schultz was ok but I don’t think he’s as steady as Hannan.
by vtcapsfan99 on Apr 25, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn’t it nice to have so many quality defenders that it’s hard to rank their play? Not an issue that we enjoyed in the past, especially when our best defender Green became a playoff headcase. I can see an argument for ranking Carlzner ahead of Green. They played very well most of the time, some mistakes but they rebounded nicely. Green impressed me with his offensive contributions and puck moving.
Actually I think I recall Hannan making a mistake on one goal now that I was thinking about it, but that’s it.
by vtcapsfan99 on Apr 25, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Green was on the ice for 7 of the 13 goals the Caps scored, most on the team. (Hannan 5, Schultz 5, Erskine 4, Carlson 1, Alzner 1). Sure, 3 of those were power play goals But then again, that’s because he was on the ice for all three of the Caps PP goals.
Green was on the ice for just 2 goals against. Of the rest, only Schultz (0) and Erskine (2) were on the ice for 2 or less, and it was pretty clear that they were not drawing the toughest competition. Hannan was on the ice for 3 goals against — very impressive given what was asked of him. Carlson was on for 4, Alzner for 5 goals against.
The entire D played well, and Carlson and Alzner were very effective given their experience and their roles. But let’s not start calling them the best D on the team just yet. There a couple of veterans, including a two-time Norris finalist who adds as much on offense as he does on defense (and vice versa), who still have something to say about that.
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by Gould Old Days on Apr 25, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I honestly can’t recall Hannan making one single mistake
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I guess…I am sure millions of people thought PornStache was headed behind the net since that was the Rags only offensive play.
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thanks, can’t watch that at work, but I’m guessing that is the goal I was referencing in my post above. I still think he played better than Carlzner despite that goal.
by vtcapsfan99 on Apr 25, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
um, really
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No, but he was great. Truly great. Our whole PK was the MVP. Neuvy let in one soft goal otherwise they are perfect (he made a few great saves too so I am not blaming him, just pointing it out)
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I thought BG played well with what he had, and I was blasted for saying he was better than Nicky in game 4… Neuvy was a beast tho.
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BG did everything he does well most games exceptionally well this series. Same with Neuvy.
Semin on the other hand did everything he does well most games just as well as normal, but added in some net presence and scrappyness that put him above his normal game play.
Both raised their game, but in different ways.
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Mine
1. Truth
2. Ovi
3. Marjo
4. Hannan
5. Jizz
6. Alzner
7. ThugLife
8. Sarge
9. 4Skine
10. Arnott simply for binging the Semin out
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Chimera scores two game-winners and doesn’t even get in your top 10? If he gets three game-winners next series, does he rise above Erskine?
When you win a series in 5 an argument can be made that all players played well at some point. Those 10 with exception of Arnott to me put together a more complete 5 games than Chimmer, even with the GWGs. I put Arnott p there for what he brings to the team. Gordo had a good series too….just my top 10 is all. Chimmer can be in yours.
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Gordo has been a one man wrecking crew on the PK. Every time I watch another team’s PK I get really confused when they don’t instantly clear the zone after a faceoff.
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Yea, his and Nickys PK were so solid…but it was the Rags. Their PP is punchless like a Mike Wise interview.
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For me, the best Cap not named the Truth in rd. 1: MJ90. 2/2/4 +3, 8 SOG and zero PIM’s.
Still marveling at the pass to 28 on the coffin nail marker.
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by bigonetimer on Apr 25, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
He started slowly but the last 3 games he really turned it on.
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when you can make Chimera and Sasha consistent threats, I’m buying whatever he brings. good responsible defender, too.
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by bigonetimer on Apr 25, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
to clarify: Sasha’s a threat without him, of course, but the kid can more than keep up.
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by bigonetimer on Apr 25, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Marjo was a freak… te pass to Sasha was sweet, Sashas shot was better. I thought his pass to Chimmer before that was better. Either way I dont think you can discount the Captain. He really wore down Staal/Girardi, who is an impressive pairing, on top of having his 6 points and bringing energy to the team.
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Yeah, Ovechkin was a consistent menace, played his game to a T. I just thought MJ would struggle with the more physical realities of playoff hockey, and he really responded well.
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by bigonetimer on Apr 25, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
how many penalties did MoJo draw with his speed? I was very impressed by him, other than the first game.
by vtcapsfan99 on Apr 25, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I can recall at least 2.
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by bigonetimer on Apr 25, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I needed my Photoshop fix this morning
Lets just hope this movie doesn’t end as tragically
by Brainumbc on Apr 25, 2011 10:30 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
While some have praised Mike Green’s better defensive play, I’d like to see him us the time off to learn how to block shots properly. Still don’t know what he was thinking on that last one.
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His technique was fine. I think Olczyk made a fair point in that the shot was slightly delayed, which caused the slide to be off.
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Nah…he just remembered in an instant what he did to Patrick Thorsen and thought, “what the hell, it’s only my head.”
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by ThePeerless on Apr 25, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
My problem with it was it was so close to the goaltender.
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They made the point in BUF-PHI (I think) that you don’t want to stand right in front of your goalie; I think Roenick made the point that it’s better to get low so your goalie can see.
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
The block in game 5 was poorly executed. The concussion causing shot from earlier in the season was kind of fluky and not his fault.
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The concussion causing shot
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by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of Katie, she is still sticking to her guns on this issue. From the latest CI Update:
Green missed 26 of the final 28 games of the regular season with two concussions, one suffered from being hit by a puck to the head on Feb. 6 against Pittsburgh and another on Feb. 25 after being hit in the head by New York’s Derek Stepan.
grrr.
Trying not to get wound up about it…
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
take deep breaths, find your happy place….
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Just find it odd that she would continue to write it as fact when it appears to be nothing more than her opinion. She has been called out on this topic directly and has failed to provide a source for this information, poor journalism.
by 7-Hole Glove Side on Apr 25, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet it has been kicked up the management chain, and someone senior told them: “Stick to your story.”
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
the interesting twist is that if any of the OTHER WaPo writers reference Green’s injuries in the blog, they do NOT call it 2 separate concussions. it’s purely her own battle.
I thought I saw TEB say 2 concussions, but perhaps I’m misremembering. So many authors on CI these days.
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Could be. I had a feeling we would be hearing about Green’s "back-to-back" concussions after the puck to the head on Saturday. I just don’t get why she keeps bringing it up, wouldn’t it have been easier to say "Green, who was seeing his first action in months after suffering a concussion on February 25"? This still gets the point across and doesn’t reference unproven claims.
by 7-Hole Glove Side on Apr 25, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
The "Jason" Spoof
Apologies if someone put this up already, but has anyone seen a link to the video of the so called “Nightmare on 34th St.: Jason Takes Manhattan” video they put up at VC before the game on Saturday? I wasn’t there, but heard about it.
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Pretty amusing. :-)
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by IRockTheRed on Apr 25, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
That is solid gold right there.
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by TheMattyHatty on Apr 25, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Sean Avery: bittenor, biter, or bitter?</blockquote>
FTFY
by Moonage Daydream on Apr 25, 2011 11:30 AM EDT reply actions
Weber, Lidstrom, Chara are the Norris nominees.
Lemme quote the late, great Colonel Sanders. He said "I'm too drunk to taste this chicken."
His goalie set a record. Didn’t manage that by himself.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Apr 25, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure he did. Thomas faced a lot of shots and we all know shot quality is a myth.
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by Killer_Carlson on Apr 25, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Above, I’d typed Chara but then backspace’d in favor of Yandle.
Not bad picks there.
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought the new NBC/Versus TV deal meant that every NHL playoff game would be televised nationally (insofar as Versus counts as national) starting on Saturday. But the NSH/ANA game wasn’t on TV yesterday, and there is no way they can do it tomorrow as well. Lame.
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I think they said from the conference semi-finals, meaning next round.
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Does this mean that games are no longer on the hockey package?
If so then there goes my free MLB Package (The channels are the same on my cable system so during the overlap of baseball and hockey, I get all the games for the price of only the hockey package)
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That – I don’t know. I have CI as well, but if they are all on Versus, then it’s the same thing.
On DTV, MLB and NHL have different channels.
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I was also under the impression that it was supposed to be as of Saturday, but clearly that wasn’t true.
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My understanding was that all the games will be available as of next season on Versus (whatever its going to be call then) and other NBC properties, though I do recall something about Nashville series in the release. I have the package, so I didn’t care either way.
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by Carl Putnam on Apr 25, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I think next season all playoff games are nationally exclusive, IIRC (goodbye Joe B and Locker). But they were going to pick up the local broadcasts for the games that they’re not producing themselves and I thought it was starting as I said above.
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I believe its going to be all national telecasts after the first round starting next season. Which makes sense as I don’t see them being able to produce all 8 series in the 1st round. They said they will show all the games, but I don’t think they are producing all the 1st round ones. I need to find the press release. When I do I’ll link it in the thread.
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by Carl Putnam on Apr 25, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
NHL.com article. I was correct. The national exclusivity starts with 2nd round. The RSN’s will still get games in the 1st round.
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by Carl Putnam on Apr 25, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
NHL Network should be allowed to simulcast the “other” first round games.
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by DownGoesAvery on Apr 25, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you read the link? NBC Sports Group will be showing all the games. Just won’t have exclusive broadcasts for all the 1st round ones.
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by Carl Putnam on Apr 25, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s because of the CSN/NBC relationship, so naturally, the CSN markets (i.e. WSH, PHI, CHI, SJ) get preferred treatment and an easier legal negotiation to be simulcasted on Versus.
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by DownGoesAvery on Apr 25, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta be my favorite ‘History Will Be Made" commercial. I remember watchin all these games with my pop, and it was great cause I wasn’t a fan of any team yet, just a hockey fan.
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No words is number two, though.
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Just reading the Puck Daddy Eulogy of the Rangers. Chris Drury makes 7 million a year! If he were arbitration eligible, Boyd Gordon would be a comparable.
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Somehow, they have to get rid of 2/3: Drury/Gaborik/Avery. Their free agent list includes Prospal, Callahan, Dubinsky, Anisimov, Boyle, Sauer, Eminger, Frolov and Gilroy. Many of those guys will demand large raises. Oh, and apparently, they have the cap space to sign Brad Richards, too.
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by DownGoesAvery on Apr 25, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Only Callahan, Dubinsky, Anisimov, Sauer, Boyle, and maybe Gilroy on that list will be resigned. Only Dubinsky and maybe Boyle and/or Callahan is going to get more than $1m raise.
The money works w/ Richards as long as either Drury or Wolski is gone. Doesn’t require as much as you think.
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by George E. Ays on Apr 25, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Just want to say how much I’ve appreciated your analysis ever this series. I’ve popped over to read every one of your Scoring Chances pieces, including today’s. Really great work that has given me a deeper appreciation for the individual games and how well various players have performed.
I’m telling you this here because I’m shy about posting on other team’s sites.
Thanks.
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by capsyoungguns on Apr 25, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Thanks for the kind words.
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by George E. Ays on Apr 25, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
and whoever did the art at the top of the Eulogy should be praised. beautiful.
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Epic.
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I’m sure they had so much pity for us Caps fans last spring….
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Also something I never ever want to hear from someone working at an airport….
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Loved it. I just retweeted you.
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even more awesome than usual. big fan of this one:
Equal time: I reported the Bruins had a 20-minute meeting after their Game 2 loss at home. Claude Julien says I’m on crack and it was only six or seven minutes.
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Caps-related nuggets:
13) Was talking to Garry Galley and Glenn Healy about the Jason Chimera OT winner in Game 4. My question: was the problem a lack of communication? Should Marian Gaborik have been yelling, “I’m playing it?” or Henrik Lundqvist that he was freezing it? They said no and explained that when a goalie reaches to grab the puck, you get your stick out of the way and box out. That was Gaborik’s error.
14) A little obscure, but seeing that play reminded me of Adrian Dantley in the epic 1987 NBA playoff series between the Boston Celtics and Detroit Pistons. Not exactly known for his hustle or defensive interest, Dantley dove for a loose ball in Game 7, cracked heads with teammate Vinnie Johnson and was kayoed. Without him, Detroit lost. Legend has it his wife asked, “Why did you suddenly decide you cared about a loose ball?”
15) Confirm or deny: one of the Rangers growing a playoff mustache burned his face using Just For Men.
Confirm.
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
File this under the “wrong when F&B said it, but right now” heading:
4) Was emailing someone about the series and he came up with a great line: “The Canucks aren’t facing the eighth seed any more. They’re facing the Stanley Cup champs.”
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by Knee high to a duck on Apr 25, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
That seems to be happening a lot lately.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Apr 25, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Lars Nicklas Bäckström
What happened to 19 all series. Just an assist? Hopefully he shows up a bit more on the stat sheet next round.
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I’m in the minority on this, but I think he’s just not getting the bounces, no worries.
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
You aren’t in the minority. I’m not worried about 19. He’s contributing fine.
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Backstrom is fine. His compete level is right up there, he’s skating well and he was strong on the puck in the corners in games four and five. And let’s not forget, it was his great pass to Laich that started the Ovechkin breakaway in Game Five.
the problem is “fine” isn’t really an ideal adjective you’d want to describe your top line center with a huge contract. Everyone has seen his ability to be a “difference maker” or “game breaker” and its just not there this year.
I guess I have high expectations for him.
He contributed in far more ways than just his points in this series. Feel like he’s a little snakebit on his chances too. Bouncing puck off the Knuble post rebound in Game 1, empty netter in Game 5. The points will come.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate when people use money as an excuse. Right, he’s paid a lot of money to produce…but there’s nothing in his contract that says he has to reach X points or score X goals or else. He’s human. When Ovi wasn’t scoring any goals, no one wanted to pull out his contract and say “what the hell are we paying you for?!” so let’s not do it for Nicky. I don’t get that rationale at all…people will have moments in which they’re not playing as ideally as you’d like them to. He’s not scoring goals, but he’s still making incredible plays, doing well in the faceoff, and being as responsible as he has been to set up goals for others.
by redpezrocket on Apr 25, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Here we go….I felt the same way, he definitely played better in Game 5. Ghost in 3&4, Good in 1, OK in 2.
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He needs to shoot a bit more. Looking like the old pass first Baks. Stepped it up in the FO circle in games 3 -5. Overall, I’m not all that concerned. Giradi and Staal make a lot of folks look average.
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I’ve been asking this question all season… No one seems to have any answers. He just doesn’t seem to have his mojo working.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
In his defense, he did help get MarJo working.
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If you say so… I’m wondering if maybe Backstrom is just having a tougher time than the other Young Guns adjusting to a more conservative defensive system. Maybe because he’s a center and has more defensive responsibility.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
where he has been pretty money. even in this series, and on the PK as well
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BDD -It was a joke. As to your comments about how the system change affected him I think that is part of it. As Cap-O-vens points out the defensive part of his game has been excellent. However, that hasn’t explained all of it as he hasn’t looked the same in the offensive zone most of the season and I think the PP suffered as much from his issues as it did Green’s absence.
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Ah, roger that… Snark-o-meter is busted this morning.
Agreed, system change is no explanation for why he’s just not creating the offensive wizardry he used to. But, it’s not like he’s playing BADLY out there, per se. He’s strong on the puck, great along the boards, great passer… I just don’t understand the disappearance of the ability to create offense the way he used to.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeesh. The punctuation keys don’t seem to be working on my keyboard.
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All the Penalty killers have been money so far. Let’s hope that continues moving forward. Maybe his wrist injury is still hampering him, who knows?
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And already producing better in the playoffs than the PP did last season.
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Not a tough stat to bust…
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from Whyno….now that hershey’s season is over, is it better for Orlov to play in the WC, or come to DC as a non-roster player?
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After seeing what constitutes “national hockey team” for Russia, I think he’d learn more from watching DJ King send shots against the glass at Kettler.
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WC by a mile, I’d think. It won’t help much for North American hockey, but it’d be good for him to compete at that level.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
May not help his hockey but may help learning to play under a lot of pressure.
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Compete in a high pressure tournament or fart around with a team he can’t play for this year even if they want him to? Send him to go play hockey games rather than practice!
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Apr 25, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
But would he even play? Hasn’t Bykov been reluctant to play younguns?
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I would rather he work with our coaches. I don’t want to risk him going to Russia to play and potentially getting injured. At least here, he can practice, work with coaches, improve his English, learn a little more about North American culture, and develop his game in other ways.
by redpezrocket on Apr 25, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
What Consitutes a "Bandwagon Fan" ?
I’m curious as to what people here consider a bandwagon fan….
Is a bandwagon fan someone who has just become a fan in the last few years and just likes the Caps because they are winning?
What about people that were introduced to hockey and fell in love with the game? Is that necessarily a bad thing?
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by TheFuryUnleashed on Apr 25, 2011 2:24 PM EDT reply actions
I think “Jumping on the Bandwagon” is when you come in late in the game and start rooting for the team because they are doing well. I don’t know if new hockey fans count but I’m not sure.
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by caps_shutterbug on Apr 25, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
New hockey fans better NOT count. I root for my team, win or lose. A “bandwagon fan” is someone who runs away if the team loses…
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by IRockTheRed on Apr 25, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
very true, they do abandon ship quickly.
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by caps_shutterbug on Apr 25, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Bandwagon fans are the ones who are there with all their Caps gear when they’re winning, but nary a peep from them when they’re not.
New fans are good. You bring them into the fold by letting them know of the inevitable disappointment. If they still commit, they’re a Caps fan.
There are two types of people in this world; those who like Styx and those who are afraid to admit to it.
The irony is that you won’t know who was truely a “bandwagon” fan until the teams starts to suck. My interpretation of the term are those fans who jump on when things are good and jump off when times are tough.
Jump on for whatever reason. If you like it, stay along for the ride (up and down). Everyone is a new fan at one point or another. I always wonder why people think it’s a bad thing for people to become fans unless it was within 10 minutes after they emerge from the womb.
There was a guy sitting next to me on Saturday who was at his first live hockey game. Pretty cool. I could tell, however, it wasn’t his first time drinking six beers in a row.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Apr 25, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The term “bandwagon fan” carries with it a certain pejorative conotation, but really, what’s the point? The only time it matters to me is if one of such fans — to the extent they are interested more in being there than watching the hockey — block my view of the game (by, say, taking pictures of one another “here is us at the Caps game”) or otherwise interfere with my enjoyment of it. There are a certain number of fans who are there because Caps games are the “in” thing at the moment in this town, and I have no doubt that they will drop hockey like Carlos Rogers drops interception opportunties when the Caps start losing (that’s a “when,” not an “if”). Don’t much care that they jumped on; won’t care much when they jump off. The only gripe I might have is less with those fans than whatever pandering management engages in to that specie of fan.
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by ThePeerless on Apr 25, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Completely agree with everything you wrote. The guys behind me babbling about different pitchers curveballs only stopping to yell BS on an icing call are the only bandwagon fans I wish slow painful deaths too. My hope is tho that some bandwagon/new to the caps cause they are winning fans stick around and become lifers, broadening the fanbase.
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I have more problems with the guy who sits behind me who seems to think he invented the game and complains about almost everything the Caps do on the ice.
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and the guy who yells SHHOOOOOT!!!! When Greener is behind Neuvy setting up the breakout.
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maybe he thought it was last years Green and he was fat and it would take him 150 ft to get a shot off.
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Props for swiping my often used Carlos Rogers quip and using it far better than I ever have. Agree with everything you said here too.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think that’s quite right. Schultz has actually been a fully effective quality D men for long stretches last couple years. Rogers has had periods of very good coverage, but the absolute inability to ever make the big pick when needed it seems.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
The comparison I was going for is that they are both widely heckled by their fanbases for an inability to do one very specific part of their job, which happens to be the most exciting part (Schultz-hit people, Rogers-catch the damn ball). But in reality, both are among the most consistently solid all-around players on their teams. Rogers even more so than Schultz, because of the talent level of the Skins. Hate to branch into Skins talk here, but you rarely see Rogers blowing the coverage that leads to scores, just like you rarely see a Schultz mistake leading to a goal.
by psuscott1 on Apr 25, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’ll buy it.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
A true fan is the one who stayed to the end of Game 7 against Pittsburgh back in 2009 and still gave the team a standing ovation. The bandwagon fans are the ones who left early.
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Although I do appreciate the ones who left early…not only do their fan dollars help the sport as a whole, but by them leaving my son and I were ablee to move from the 400s to the 100s in the 3rd so we could take part in the standing O from up close.
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Well, I have to admit, I left that game early (second intermission), but I had a nasty case of the flu. Was hoping Caps might repeat 1988 comeback in Game 7 against the Flyers (which I also had to leave early because of flu)
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I’d kinda like to avoid that particular remedy. Sure, I’ll take one for the team, but that’s a bit much.
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by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
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Disagree completely. Some true fans left early because it was breaking their heart seeing the Caps fall so flat. They then came back the following season and kept cheering the Caps on like they had been the whole time.
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by timmyv38 on Apr 25, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Every team in professional sports has more people paying attention to them when things are going well.
Every team in professional sports has die hard fans that have been with following “their team” win or lose since they can remember.
I think the past 4 or so years have introduced hockey to people in the DMV that would have never given it a thought before. Like with any team, when the Caps go through a couple years of mediocrity, the people that were more enamored with the idea of rooting for a winner rather than falling in love with the game of hockey and the Caps will stop paying attention.
by 7-Hole Glove Side on Apr 25, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Even after the Caps eventually return to the ‘norm’ the fanbase and the number of people who enjoy the sport will still be larger than it was before and that to me is the biggest plus. I’m always happy to see the true bandwagon types fall off. They annoy me much more than opposing team fans.
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by Carl Putnam on Apr 25, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed, I have to think that this period in Capitals history has done wonders for the sport in the area in both the short and long terms.
by 7-Hole Glove Side on Apr 25, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Playoff Noobs
I don’t know about bandwagon, but from my experience from games 1 and 2, there are a whole heck of a ton of what I like to call “Playoff Noobs.” They can be recognized by the following traits:
*Not understanding you need to immediately leave to get in the concession line/bathroom line after the period break, and then stands there like an idiot balancing a plate of nachos and two beers nearly 10 mins into the next period, and wonder why half the people in the section are yelling “SIT DOWN” at you.
*Wandering around the aisles during play looking for seat – during play. Some of these folks are clearly lost, and I feel bad for them somewhat, but others are drunk buffoons with large view-obstructing asses who got lost on their way to Nationals Park.
*People bringing small children to a playoff game with no ear protection (as in toddlers, under two years old). That’s just… negligent. Yes, your kid looks cute in a caps mini sweater, but you’re going to be hating life if the game goes to overtime. Not to mention the kid’s ears are probably getting pounded.
*And, obviously, there are folks showing up in regulars’ seats you have never seen before and exhibit a general lack of interest or confusion in the game unless someone scores (such as checking one’s smart phone, carrying on non-game related conversation punctuated by ‘shoot it!’ every once in a while, etc.). I guess everyone needs to make a few bucks once in a while, esp after doling out for season tix but eh..
I’m sure I’m leaving things out, but those are just from the 400s experience.
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by TheMattyHatty on Apr 25, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely irresponsible to bring a toddler or infant to a hockey game, especially playoffs. I know I wouldn’t be able to keep mine sitting the whole time, he’d have more fun wandering the concourse than watching the game. He’s not going to remember it later and he’ll have made my life difficult in the mean time.
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In re Ovie for series MVP
I saw a lot of people putting him at the top of their lists for series MVP, but I’m really not sure I agree. Yeah, he put up good stats, but I think he underachieved for this series.
He spent many games (including game 7) going on single-man rushes which, other than the one with his goal, were fruitless. He’d get rubbed out by the defence, put up a weak shot, or fail to put forth the effort on the rush which would have gotten him a scoring chance. He didn’t do much for many games in terms of starting or leading rushes, he just took the rush upon himself. reminded me of the old ovie, and not in a good way.
If he had instead worked more rushes with his teammates or worked the moves we know he has against rangers d-men, he’d have made much more of an impact, have gotten multi-goal games, and may have had this series end a game earlier. I worry that if he puts forth the same effort against next round’s opponent, he will be shut down.
Even if his usual breakaway, deke/toe drag and shoot through a d-man’s skates thing is not successful, he does add pressure to the opposing team and backs them away from our offensive zone. That he can do that almost at will, even with all of the other teams “figureing him out”. Is useful and contributes to our team’s play. Consider that if that old trick only works one of a dozen times, his shot record says that is the potential for several scoring chances per game.
Then consider one of his top contributions is his physical play, something that won’t get goals directly, and he definately has more than just one facet to his game.
Add to that the passes and space he opens up that allows our other players to get shots on goal, and he is definately a big part of the Caps success.
His single-man rush tactics yielded 1 goal over the series, and against a tired D man at the end of his long shift.
I think he would be much more productive, while still accomplishing the baseline of getting the puck out of the zone, if he were to lead rushes instead of execute them alone. Hell, he’d still get the puck out of the zone if he just dumped it in. Instead, he would cough up the puck and let the Rangers start a forecheck.
There were some times where it looked like he could make his lone-man rush work, but he gave up on it once the d-man got on him. he didn’t work hard for it, he didn’t try hard with his moves and his skill.
He should do less of this carry-the-team-on-his back shit, and if he does decide to do it, he should at least go all-in and try to pull it off
I agree we would all love to see highlight reel goals from Ovi, and I agree in principal to the idea that the Caps wait for follow on support and begin the offensive cycle. However, in practice there are few Caps who keep up with Ovi to do that quickly enough.
His game has changed to include a more responsible defense role. He is not grand standing anywhere near what he did even last year (as evidenced by his lower individual stats) So, overall I am not ready to begin criticizing his lack of finishing his breakaways or setting his linemates up on the play. Especially considering that his goal production has decreased but his assists are stillat a high level.
Screw the highlight reel goals. He’ll get those still. He’s still Ovie. He got on in Game 5. I’m much more pleased with the going to the net “dirty” goals he got in Games 1 and 3. He also had a couple of these in the Montreal series last year, one to help jump start the comeback in period 3 of Game 2 last year, and one to bring us within a goal (2-1) in 2nd period of Game 5 last year.
Sometimes it takes a little willingness to go get those dirty goals to score in the playoffs. He’s showing he is willing to do this lately. More points will come. He was basically 1 point off his career playoff scoring average over 5 games. It’s all good.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
that one goal didn’t happen because of his usual tactics. He bull-rushed staal and got around him.
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He does try to get to the outside and burn guys with his speed and power rush plenty of times…D men just learned to back off him a little early on because of that ability. He’ll still do it when he can.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
the usual tactics this series seemed to be to dangle the puck then try to toe-drag it or pass it to himself from behind the D, never got a scoring chance because of it. most of the time he had a winger on the other side he could have passed to. but the most infuriating part was that they could have possessed the puck…whenever he tried to be cute it was a turnover
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I saw him dump it in some after it didn’t work a few times., and the brief bit Chimera was on the top line he was shooting whenever Chim drove the net. Also saw him do this with Backstrom quite a bit and once with Marco Sturm who had a chance at the juicy rebound Lundy left in the 3rd period of Game 5.
I’d prefer when it’s 1v2 or worse 1v3 waiting for his linemates to catch up that he would just carry the puck in deep and around the net. Give everyone else time to set up and start cycling. He got some shots off but didn’t really have too many of his favorable actual 1v1 rushes.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
The Washington Capitals
Playing a 7 game series even when it is over in 5.
Agree, though on OVIE for MVP that series. In my eyes he just did his job.
by 7-Hole Glove Side on Apr 25, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Da Bears
So, now that the Bears have hung it up for the season, who do you bring down other than Holtby (Obviously Orlov can’t play, but he’ll skate in practice I assume)? And does this depend on who we face in the next round more than anything?
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Just in case Arnott’s groin needs a rest, maybe?
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I could see MP85 getting ice if we have to play the Habs – but that’s it. Arnott’s size comes in handy against people like the Rags and the Pens, but seeing as MTL is full of zippy little hobbits like gionta, he might come in handy. I seem to recall he’s done pretty well playing against them this year. Then again, the whole team has…
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by TheMattyHatty on Apr 25, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Matty P. will not get any ice unless there is an injury. Period.
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Injury and “maintenance day” being synonymous, and Arnott probably not able to play every single game this postseason(couldn’t finish game 5), it’s feasible that they might look to Perreault once or twice if we play a speedy team like Montreal.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
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And every time MP85 is recalled, he scores big points.
Sure, you play a healthy Arnott 10 times out of 10. But when Arnott isn’t healthy? Do you shift Laich over to center? Do you play Beagle? I’d say that MP85 is not a crazy idea, if the matchup with the opposing team is right.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
If Arnott isn’t healthy enough to play, I consider MP. I don’t imagine Arnott will take a day off to rest. He’ll play unless physically unable.
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If Arnott has to miss a game, I prefer Mojo move up to 2nd line, Gordo to 3rd line, and Beagle to 4th. The physical nature of playoff hockey I think will be too much for MP. He doesn’t exactly blow it up in the faceoff circle either. Beags game will be fine in playoffs on the 4th line.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
MTL is full of zippy little hobbits like gionta
Well, just because Matty P is small, doesn’t mean he’s zippy. MoJo is a lot zippier. Matty P’s size is a problem.
by redpezrocket on Apr 25, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I just think it's funny
when joe B says of MoJo or MP that they’re “Scampering”
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open lockers for MP85, Holtby, AG, and Sean Collins if he isn’t still there already. Maybe one for Fahey, in case our injury situation gets REALLY bad
Still haven’t seen anything defining Gordon’s LBI (knee?) injury. Since he wasn’t in yesterday’s elimination lineup, I’d guess it’s pretty bad (definitely could have used him on the power play).
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Please let us all hope Fahey never gets a minute of playoff ice. That’s a skate deflection goal waiting to happen.
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by TheMattyHatty on Apr 25, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
interesting news buried as part of today’s PD headlines: Blue Jackets inquire about moving to the East. Perhaps even more interesting? a “league source” says that much-rumored promise that Detroit gets the first opportunity to move east doesn’t exist.
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Interesting news! Of course, I’ve been the person who’s proposed moving Nashville to the East and the Pens to the West so as to create a natural rivalry between the Pens and Blue Jackets. Granted, Nashville’s in the Central Time Zone but geographically and culturally, they fit better with the Southeast than in their current slot.
I’m sure the Jackets feel more affinity in having a rivalry with Pitt than where they are.
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by Gould Old Days on Apr 25, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
But you left out Winnipeg…
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by Gould Old Days on Apr 25, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
So, no one is talking playoff matchups. At the moment, it sure does feel most likely that we’ll play Pittsburgh in the 2nd round. For that not to happen, we’d need one of the 3 to happen:
1) Montreal wins 2 straight against Boston.
2) TBL wins 2 straight against Pitt.
3) Buffalo wins game 7 in Philly.
All 3 of those events feel like significant underdogs to me.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
Honestly the team I’d be most worried about facing in Round 2 right now would be a Tampa team that stormed back from being down 3-1 against the Pens and finding their offense.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Pitt is the NYR with more depth and marginally more skill. They’ll do the same things the Rags tried to do, but do them a little better. I still think the Caps are well prepared to win a series against them.
Oh, and Fleury ain’t Lundqvist, let us not forget.
I also think that one of the things you list comes to pass, but that’ neither here nor there.
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, PIT vs TBL. TB had really strong possession numbers for most of the year (at least, solid with score tied, then great when leading or trailing), then they lost it.
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Just Objective NHL’s posts every now and then. You can also use http://www.timeonice.com/mplayershots1011tied.php?team=WSH&first=20001&last=21230&hv=0 (I’m assuming you know how to manipulate that)
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(or, for an approximation, find a Corsi Rel 0 player on a team and then calculate his Corsi% using the breakdown on the right)
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by red army line on Apr 26, 2011 4:41 AM EDT up reply actions
could we please stop worrying … We are playing fantastic hockey ….
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by TheFuryUnleashed on Apr 25, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Did I come off as worried? Certainly not my intention. Just thinking about 2nd round matchups.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah, you skeered
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Yeah, me too. None of the 4 potential matchups particulaly worries me.
Here’s how I rank them in order of desirability:
1. Sabres – injured in key spots, will have played a brutal Game 7, Miller looking ordinary, defense not very good to start with.
2. Bolts – Rolo has turned into a pumpkin, the defense sucks, and winning would require 2 more games of pounding at the hands of the Pens so they’ll be tired and sore.
3. Pitt – See above. They have Kovalev and Neal and also a very good top-4 defense; beyond that they grind and forecheck and have to score ugly goals. Fleury can be spotty. Not too scary on offense for the most part, and I like Fleury’s odds of melting down and conceding a game or two along the way. But it would be a tough and brutal series.
4. Habs – Neanderthals on D are in their element in playoff hockey, where they can mug skilled forwards without drawing too many calls. Speed merchants on offense will pressure Schultz, Erskine, Hannan and Alzner. Price is good. Plus, last year.
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so, speaking of Pitt and the next round (assuming Flower doesn’t spot Tampa another 6 goals), where is Crosby in his rehab? I assume, from the lack of celebratory video on NHL.com, that he’s still not cleared for full contact practice?
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I do hear that he asploded another water bottle and Angels were heard crying tears of joy tho.
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But now they’re trying to make us think that Malkin is almost ready to go.
Not buying.
Don’t try to figure Sasha out. Just ride the wave.
The whole…only needed surgery on one of the two ligaments party line eh?
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
No worries, they’re going to choke away this 3-1 lead.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
from nhl.com
(Pittsburgh leads best-of-seven series, 3-2)
Or are you just living in the weekend?
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Pitt was up 3-1, and they’re going to choke it away. It’d be less accurate if I said they were choking away a 3-2 lead.
Semantics…
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I assume he means that they were up 3-1 in the series before the 8-2 shellacking.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
All 4 teams have weaknesses that we should exploit. I would take your list and swap TB and Mon. I think we would finish Mon. off quickly this year and I would love the retribution.
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Per Katie in CI:
Washington is 3-0-1 in its season series against Buffalo
The Capitals went 3-0-1 against Montreal
Washington went 3-0-1 against Pittsburgh
and 4-1-1 against Tampa Bay.
Frankly, if I’m any of those teams, I’m far more worried about playing the Caps than the reverse.
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by psuscott1 on Apr 25, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
7-0-1 if you consider a shootout to be a tie, since this is the playoffs and all…
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I want to play Pittsburgh in the finals, and hopefully Crosby will be back. It would be nice to give him the Mike Green treatment. I hope him and Mario watched how the Rangers treated him.
Oh my…you do know how many soul crushing defeats we have suffered at their hands…why tempt the gods…but I do believe this would be the year to snap that…so fuck em bring em on
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Move the Habs to the top of my list. This year’s team knows how to beat Montreal, they’d be HIGHLY motivated to beat Montreal, and Carey Price would be put in his place quicker than you can say tabernac.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting.
One thing I hadn’t considered – if Montreal wins, it will be on the basis of winning B2B games on Tues/Weds. That would push the start of R2 to Friday, giving the Caps an extra day to heal, and it would hopefully mean a beat-up and tired MON team.
Might have to revise my standings…
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Thank you. Fact is that every series is going to be difficult. I just want them to end so that the coaching staff can prepare for the next opponent. Fastest way for that to happen is Buffalo wins tomorrow night. Worst case is TBL and MTL win tonight and PHL wins Tues. Then we don’t know who we face until late Wednesday, with a possible Friday start.
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And it would be crazy if 1,2,3,4 moved on in the East seeing how last year 4,6,7,8 moved on in the East last year.
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Looks like a keg stand ….
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by TheFuryUnleashed on Apr 25, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Quantum Leap’s most hilarious jump: Olympic High Diver to Professional Hockey Player.
by DrinkingPartner on Apr 25, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I know my contact lens is here somewhere. I think it felt between the boards and ice. Doug – can you get down here to help me?
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“He was not afraid to have his hands slashed,
Or his elbows hooked,
Or his kidneys crosschecked,
Or his noggin concussed,
Or his teeth knocked out,
Or his pen…”
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
…and this should be his customary attitude!
(assuming you are playing off of G&S)
by DerwoodCapsMom on Apr 25, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Monty Python, not G&S. Although “I am the very model of an enigmatic player” has some potential, I think.
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by AMusingFool on Apr 26, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I wondered that myself… Female reporter?
by Berube Doobie Doo on Apr 25, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Only way you could have a better one is if they re-did the painting at the end of Ghostbusters 2 with the Young Guns in there with the Stanley Cup in place of the Ghostbusters and Baby Oscar.
Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Via @TimSassone
Confirming XM Radio Home Ice report that Bryan Bickell had wrist surgery today to repair 2 tendons – out three weeks
That'll make your weagle wink!
The pants that bind us should be left behind us.
One thing I dis/like
Is everyone writing about it from a neutral/rangers aspect is putting the blame for the loss on the rangers. Nevermind the effort we put into those wins.
Suspend Colin Campbell!
I can understand it from a rangers perspective…but the proof for me is the fact that only one of the teams controlled the majority of whole games in the series, and it was us twice (Game 2 and 5). Aside from that it was 3 one goal games that we happened to win 2 out of 3. Periods the Rangers played well in, we were able to come up with a response. They had no answer for when we were playing our best in the series.
Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Two things, the Rangers were probably...
the worst team in the playoffs—even worse than Phoenix. Let’s be honest—they are dismal offensively. I mean, a 4-1 series win is decisive, and yet the Caps could have easily lost game 1 (Ovechkin jams the puck past the goalie when there is no whistle to tie that game latish), win that game and another in OT. My concern about the Caps is that while the D has got much better, the O has gone in the other direction; this team does not score a lot of goals, which means that almost every game is going to be tight. They haven’t been able to do what Chicago has been doing—play solid defense AND score frequently as well. But then even after losing three or four good players, the Black Hawks have a TON of talent—most talented team in the league last two years. Maybe only San Jose is close, or Detroit.
Second, it’s great that Green takes shots for the team—but I hope by now he’s learned to stop falling on the ice in front of a slap shot—especially when you are not so close to the shooter and therefore it’s tougher to gauge where your body is in relation to the very hard hunk of rubber that will soon be hitting some part of your body at a 100 miles per hour or whatever the speed is. A solid series win, but i watch the rangers and wonder how they got into the playoffs at all.
While they may not have been the cream of the crop, the Rangers matched up very well against the caps this year. They were poised to pull a Montreal against us but the caps didn’t let that happen. If playoffs are all about match-ups we beat the team that was our achilles heel, lets not minimize that. We had a game plan and except for stumbles in games 3 and 4 we persevered. I’m convinced last year that if we’d pulled any other team except for montreal we could have made a deep run. I had the same feeling this year about the Rangers, but these Caps proved me wrong.
Suspend Colin Campbell!
None of the remaining teams have Lundqvist though -and he was a huge reason the score stayed so low. The Caps might be facing some good goalies (Miller is probably the best they might face in the 2nd round), but the next one as good as Lundqvist won’t be until the Conference Finals, if the Caps make it there.
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