Via Skate Skate Shoot, @KellieCowan's compilation of some of the hits (clean and otherwise) that Mike Green has taken through three games.
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My viewpoint on the Rangers remains the same- they’re still classless scum. Headhunting concussed players is nearly as pathetic as running goalies.
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Then I guess the animals are on their own. Even the cute ones.
by Kevin Sellathamby on Apr 19, 2011 3:21 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
In their defense (just playing devil’s advocate here a bit) – Green does seem to get targeted by most teams, regular season and postseason, post-concussion and not.
There’s a difference between playing someone hard to frustrate/tire and letting elbows drift upwards every single hit.
What a bunch of garbage cheapshots.
I agree- look at Vancouver, where they’re throwing clean hits on Patrick Kane. They’re not headhunting, they’re not aiming anywhere, they’re throwing clean hits. All the hits on Green are targeting the head.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Apr 19, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Really? I only saw one in those videos. Maybe two if you count the Prust hit.
by HockeyGoalie29 on Apr 19, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Dubinskys smacked him in the face twice with his stick.
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before the hit and after
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then you are completely blind … he gets hit by 2 guys there…
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by TheFuryUnleashed on Apr 19, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Dubinsky taps him in the hip. It’s Green’s own stick that gets up high.
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@ :26 seconds that is PornStaches stick meeting ThugLifes face
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It’s not really clear, but even still, I’ll take your high stick at 0:26 and raise you a Green high stick to Dubi’s face at 0:33.
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yea Green definitely got him up high too. I was focused on the headshots on greenie, good eye. He did come off holding his face tho.
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He did come off holding his face tho.
Looked more like he was adjusting his helmet after a hard hit.
by HockeyGoalie29 on Apr 19, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Watch the next angle at :32-33. Boyle stick checks Green and the stick bounces up but comes nowhere near Greens face.
by HockeyGoalie29 on Apr 19, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
you mean dubi, and that angle is not definite either
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Yeah, I did mean Dubinsky. Funny how people can watch the same clip and come to different conclusions because after that 2nd angle I’m 100% confident Dubinksy’s stick came nowhere near Green’s face.
by HockeyGoalie29 on Apr 19, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
If anything, I thought Green’s stick hit Dubinsky.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Apr 19, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
The 2nd angle on on the high stick before the hit is not concrete to me, The first looks pretty obvious. Not sure on the high stick after contact was made tho.
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1. Boyle was a full second after the puck was gone
2. Dubinsky left his feet and led with the blade of his stick, followed closely by his forearm
3. Avery’s hit was fine. Prust’s was also fine in result, but he was clearly trying to hit Green late. Erskine effectively set a pick and Green didn’t get boarded. Prust still smacks Green on his way out.
4. Stall should have gotten 5 and a call from Campbell for that hit. He hits Green in the head, from behind, leading with the elbow.
On the first angle (far) it looks as if Dubinsky is about to or does leave his skates. But then when you see the repeat from the near angle, you realize that he is just fully extending his upper body to hit Green hard and high. From the far angle, this gives the illusion that he is leaving his skates, which it appears that he is not. Whether that force was meant for his head or just hard on Green’s shoulders is a matter of interpretation
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Whether that force was meant for his head or just hard on Green’s shoulders is a matter of interpretation
That’s some nice post-facto counter-factual. Dubinsky hit Green in the chest/shoulder. You can talk about his intentions all you want, but the fact remains that he didn’t hit Green in the head.
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Relevant to the question at hand his intentions are, of course, wonderful fodder for discussion.
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Dubinsky’s a good skater and a big guy. If he had wanted to hit Green in the head there, I imagine he could have.
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Agreed. I don’t expect Dubinsky to go headhunting, and regardless, looks like he wanted to nail Green, but cleanly.
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by red army line on Apr 20, 2011 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions
The ice?
/snark
Seriously though, my reading (viewing?) of the video is that he leaves his feet before contact is made. It’s fast, borderline, and it’s the same play that we’ve seen Ovechkin make just about every game.
In a vacuum, I wouldn’t think of that hit as a big deal. In the context of a teamwide attempt to injure an opposing player’s brain, I’m not giving anyone the benefit of the doubt.
by leacha on Apr 19, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
1. A hit a full second after the puck leaves is considered finishing your check in the playoffs.
2. Doesn’t look like he leaves his feet at all from the 2nd two angles and I definitely don’t see a forearm to the head. Stick came up but it doesn’t look like it got him in the head.
3. Agreed. I could see a penalty called on Prust but I’m not to worried that it wasn’t.
4. Agreed completely.
by HockeyGoalie29 on Apr 19, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not so sure about the elbow. Obviously, there’s contact with the elbow from the head, but Green is also trying to participate in the play that’s behind him (net effect is getting out the way without knowing it). I have issue with the blindside hit, but in relation to, say, Ovechkin on Gleason/Gonchar, it’d be faulting AO completely, when if the target didn’t try and avoid the hit no one gets hurt.
Just to reiterate, I think the elbow is unfortunate but unintentional, but the hit was blindside.
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by red army line on Apr 20, 2011 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Not to say that what Staal did isn’t illegal, because it is. Just that I cut him a little slack because he was going to miss the hit had he continued his course, and instinctively (or so I think) tried to adjust.
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by red army line on Apr 20, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Headhunting is classless whether or not the targeted player is coming off a concussion.
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What’s your definition of headhunting here?
A) Making a conscious effort to go after a player’s head.
B) Spending a shift hitting anything that moves.
I’ve seen the term used both ways and if you used it as in the first example then I completely agree. Not so much if it’s the second.
by HockeyGoalie29 on Apr 19, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha. I assumed so but wanted to make sure since I’ve heard Ovie be criticized for “headhunting” on shifts when he takes repeated runs at somebody that has pissed him off.
by HockeyGoalie29 on Apr 19, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
The Staal hit is the only one that looks illegal to me, although there isn’t a good shot of the Boyle hit.
Yea, rewatching that Staal hit, brutal. He clearly threw out his elbow when Green tried to dodge and Staal realized he was going to miss him. Thats exactly what I want out of hockey, that lack of respect. You missed the clean hit, so you make a split second decision to do something dangerous and potential hurt someone. That crap needs to go.
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Anyone else get the message that the video is not available (after the commercial plays)? Always happens to me with the Comcast links, and is soooo annoying.
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by PureAgression on Apr 19, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m on Chrome. Maybe I’ll dl firefox and give it a shot.
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FWIW it’s working fine on Chrome for me. Make sure you have all the updates for it. I used to have the same problem
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I only saw two that I would consider penalty worthy hits. Obviously the Staal hit, which at best is a 2 minute interference call and at worst a major elbowing penalty. The second is the Prust hit which was late and possibly high but I don’t have much of a problem with that one going uncalled.
I’m not sold on the others being any more than hard hits that should be expected in the playoffs. I would like to see another angle of the Avery hit though but from what I saw it looks clean.
I don’t understand how Staal isn’t suspended here. That elbow to the head B.S. is PRECISELY what the league is looking to crack down on. To me there is no question that elbow falls under the umbrella. I’m honestly baffled.
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Caps should go after one of their guys then…Caps can’t run goalies? Someone should really take on that prick Prust, or go after Staal. Maybe take a run at Gaborik? Stop taking liberties with the skill players. Why are the Caps sitting back and letting this nonsense go on?
Part of me thinks DJ King should get a sweater for game 4.
by Murshawursha on Apr 19, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Just say no.
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by gfcaps fan on Apr 19, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
agreed there on King, guy shouldn’t sniff this series, but we need someone to start laying down the hammer on some of these guys. Don’t care if we take a penalty, it just needs to be done.
Would rather have Hendricks or Brads drop them than Erskine so we don’t lose a d-man for 5. But better Ersk in the box than DJ King in the lineup…
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If Erskine rearranges Prusts or Staals face I’ll take it. Avery and Dubinksy eat that stuff up, wouldn’t faze them. Not so sure about Prust, but I’d love to see him get decked.
I’d trade Erskine for Staal in a heartbeat. Even if he loses the fight, he wins because he gets Staal off the ice for 5 minutes.
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At least have Brooks or Hendy go thru Henrik and take the net with them
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Send in Chimera, he’s great at it. Ask Tim Thomas.
I would love to see Chimera blast that crease without even attempting to look like he’s slowing down.
Brooks may be my favorite cause he totally plays it off as an accident, and with his boy scout demeanor you believe it
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You mean he doesn’t? shocked face!
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Better to be Hendricks. I’d rather not lose Laich for five and the risk of more.
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Prust didnt even get 2
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But he doesn’t wear a weagle.
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by gfcaps fan on Apr 19, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I think if Brooks slides right thru the crease upending Henrik and taking the net with him…Ovi skates over to the refs and says “Brooksie was just checking his tire pressure” followed by a Brooks smile and wink he gets away with it.
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No. You guys are better than that. Just score goals and send those scumbags to the golf course where they belong.
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Then I guess the animals are on their own. Even the cute ones.
by Kevin Sellathamby on Apr 19, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Yes, Kevin, scoring goals and sending the Rangers to the golf course would be even better. But we may have to do just a teensy wee bit of intimidation to help our cause.
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Apr 19, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay fine, Dress DJ King to smash Avery
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Then I guess the animals are on their own. Even the cute ones.
by Kevin Sellathamby on Apr 20, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Nice job by CSN but they missed one of the worst. It was in Game One, second period along the boards on the side where the penalty boxes are and just inside the blue line. Green and Boyle were scrumming against the glass and after the puck was sent to the corner, Boyle gave Green a real hard elbow directly under his chin. Clear as day and of course, no call was made. At that point, I knew what the Rangers game plan was for the rest of the series.
I mentioned it to Kellie – hopefully she can throw it in and update the clip.
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That’s a completely clean hit, he never leaves his feet and his stick taps Green in the hip. He hits Green Clean in the body and not from behind.
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Look, I’m not saying emulate what they do, but why is it none of our grinders do this to young opposing defenseman? I’m not saying head hunt, but rattle their cages, hit them every chance they get. There’s been so much talk about how young the Rangers’ defensemen are, so why aren’t the Caps more worried about making their lives hell? They can easily play the same game the Rangers are playing and kill their young d-men on the forecheck.
by JimCareyFanClub on Apr 19, 2011 3:51 PM EDT reply actions
has nobody watched Bradley this series?
He’s had highlight-worthy checks in two of the three games.
Seriously, the “woe is me/Greenie” thing we’ve got going on right now is very unbecoming, speaking as a Caps fan.
by DonnieKnutts on Apr 19, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Nothing to see here; move along...
1) The only “dirty” hit in the compilation is Staal’s. It probably warranted a minor.
2) This is nothing new. Teams have been doing this to Green since at least 07-08.
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by D'ohboy on Apr 19, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
And that makes it okay. Going for someone’s head night in and night out. Someone should blindside Gabby.
Other than Staal’s hit – where do they target his head? Dubinsky hits him in the chest, as do Avery and Prust. I’m just not seeing the headhunting here.
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Eh, Avery and Prust are both assholes, chances are that they just missed.
by JimCareyFanClub on Apr 19, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Prust didn’t even hit Green – he hits Erskine for Christssake.
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by D'ohboy on Apr 19, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dubinksy brought the left elbow up but didn’t hit the head due to Green’s reaction. Prust tried to punch Green in the head after his hit. Boyle might have hit Green’s head, but if so, I don’t think it was intent – 5 inches of height difference is more likely.
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And that makes it okay. Going for someone’s head night in and night out. Someone should blindside Gabby.
Let’s take the high road here. Being physical and making life miserable for Lundqvist is fine, but potentially concussing Gaborik or any other player (it doesn’t take much, says Dangerous Dave) is off-limits.
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by red army line on Apr 20, 2011 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
The Staal hit is suspension worthy.
There is far more than “nothing” to see here. The compilation demonstrates malice on the part of the Rangers a level above mere “playing physical.” They know about his concussion status and are going for his head.
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by breed16 on Apr 19, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Mmmmmaybe Staal’s is suspenion-worthy, but he’s not a repeat offender and he really didn’t connect with Green’s head all that much.
Otherwise those hits are a dime a dozen in the playoffs and complaining about them, in my opinion, feeds into some negative stereotypes about Caps fans.
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It’s playoff hockey. This is what teams on the wrong end of a talent mismatch do.
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by D'ohboy on Apr 19, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It doesn’t make it right, and it doesn’t make it acceptable.
by redpezrocket on Apr 19, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I understand that. If they’re gonna take liberties with our skill players, then why can’t we stick up for ourselves. Why didn’t someone go after Prust or Dubi when they pull shit like that? This is playoff hockey. The Caps need to match intensity.
If they’re gonna take liberties with our skill players, then why can’t we stick up for ourselves.
Two reasons:
1) Because that’s exactly what they’re trying to do – distract the Caps with physical BS to overcome the skill disparity and hopefully draw retaliatory penalties.
2) The Caps, for better or worse, just don’t seem to be willing/able to play that kind of game.
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They’re plenty able to play that game. Taking the high road is all fine and dandy as long as it works.
Certain caps should be throwing it back at NYR skill players because Avery is much dumber than he looks and will take a penalty sticking up for his team.
Grass is green, the sun will set, Avery will take a dumb retaliation penalty.
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Exactly, exactly, 1000 times exactly. If the jerseys were switched, we’d be loving our team’s grit, so enough with the belly aching. The hits in this compilation aren’t even bad ones. Sheesh.
I love me some Mike Green, but if he doesn’t learn to avoid hits better — as he himself has said! — or learn how to make people pay for trying to hit him, then its going to continue. That’s a shame b/c when he’s healthy and confident, his game is beautiful to watch, but so it goes.
Staal not being a repeat offender is the only reason he’s safe from suspension.
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I’d agree with this if he at least got a call from Campbell (maybe he did but it doesn’t sound like it) but how does one become a repeat offender if they get away with it? I have the same problem with Malkin’s hit on Mitchell.
If nothing happens this time around, why would someone look back at this if it happens again? I don’t know…wheel of justice and all, I guess.
"They know about his concussion status and are going for his head"
You’re reaching
by DonnieKnutts on Apr 19, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
“They know about his concussion status” —> fact, unless they’ve purposefully bury their heads in the sand for 3 months.
“they are going for his head” —> the elbows and after-the-hit forearm action speaks for itself. Show me that this sort of head-targeting is equally distributed and I’ll agree with you.
I’m not reaching at all.
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by breed16 on Apr 19, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And don’t forget — he’s had two concussions!
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by Gould Old Days on Apr 19, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Green has always had a tendency to make himself vulnerable to big hits. He plays slightly off balance and gets skates tall and open when he’s carrying the puck. Combine that with him being an integral part of our attack, and he’s by far the biggest target on the Caps. Can’t ever excuse an elbow to the head, but the rest of this is just exactly what Green and the Caps should be expecting. Been happening for years.
Green’s coming from a concussion that kept him out of the line up for months, caused by one of their asshole defensemen. While most of their attempts didn’t connect, it was clear that they were extending towards Greenie’s head, as thought that was their intended target. Green probably has a similar reputation as savard (as revealed in Campbell’s leaked emails), or else there would be some more protection for these players.
Suspend Colin Campbell!
by snowburnt on Apr 19, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was responding to your "teams have been targeting Green’s head since the ‘07 ’08 season. That is bullcrap and is unacceptable. Stepan elbowed Green in the head in the regular season. I can’t pin point exact hits besides Staal, but a lot of them have been borderline.
With the exception of the Staal hit, not one of the hits was to the head. One flipping hit does not a headhunting campaign make.
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I hope no on on the caps is worrying about this as much as we are. Get over it.
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by MikeyGreen on Apr 19, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions 15 recs
……….. really? Really?! I don’t know about you, but I’d like Green lift the Cup, and not be sitting in a press box with another concussion cause someone took it a little too far. But thats just me.
by feeya7 on Apr 19, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It was a bad hit and we’re all mad about it. If the Caps get too caught up in it they’re gonna get themselves worked up over something that isn’t worth it ultimately.
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by D'ohboy on Apr 19, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
If the caps don’t ever respond to a dirty hit they won’t be playing the in playoffs. The Washington Bears will.
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by breaklance on Apr 19, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
The best response to dirty hits is winning.
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by red army line on Apr 20, 2011 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions
The hits don’t bother me. Teams – especially underdogs – are gonna play physical and Mike Green has always been the target in the playoffs. I could live without the constant arm-swinging follow-throughs to the head, though.
This is a good point, and everyone should make it a point to distinguish the two. Hits are part of the game, head shots should not be.
by redpezrocket on Apr 19, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
SERIOUSLY, AMEN, THANK YOU
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by DonnieKnutts on Apr 19, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Best thing to do about this… end this series on Saturday, limit Green’s exposure.
by 7-Hole Glove Side on Apr 19, 2011 4:12 PM EDT reply actions
I agree, I’m going to Game 5 so a W tomorrow would give me a lot to look forward to.
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Apr 19, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like they’re playing him physical. I had a problem with the Staal hit, but I wasn’t mortified. The Prust and Dubinsky hits were just good hits, maybe a little high, but both teams have been hitting high all series.
Teams have been trying to take Green out of his element for two years. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. Hell, the only hit that sort of targets his head in that video is the Staal one, and even that seemed glancing.
I will bet you Mike Green is extremely prepared to protect himself, and knows he’s a bigger target because of his head injury. It might disgust you, but it’s going to happen.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Apr 19, 2011 4:22 PM EDT reply actions
OT complaint: just use youtube for online videos. All other video players suck in comparison, and are slow. Not only that but almost all other video players, im looking at you nhl.com, do stupid stuff like try and reload the entire video when you pause it to buffer or skip around. If you can’t do it right, don’t do it.
On topic: there is a difference between “head hunting” and going after a guys head. Head Hunting generally refers to hitting everything that moves or targeting a specific player for hard hits, imo. I see a lot of good hits on Green and a few ones that should of been penalties anyway you look at it. The ones that should of been penalties I mean the late ones, and Staal’s elbow.
But someone one ice should do something when the other team is gooning it up. Look at last nights Bos-MTL game. Pouliot went for a late, and high hit that happened to just miss. If it landed it could of been suspension worthy since he left his feet and lead with an elbow, luckily he missed. Unlucky was that the short French man had to answer the bell to Ference….before that fight there wasn’t going to be a penalty, after the fight Pouliot was assessed a charging 2 minute minor.
Refs are dumb, take care of your problems on ice.
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When you say HeadHunting in Todays NHL in Refrence to a guy who had 2 alleged concussions everyone will assume you mean headshots, which is exactly what Stalls hit was.
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It does have that connotation these days. Which is why you hear people say “targeting” instead.
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Not sure why the Caps won’t play this game with Gaborik and Lunqvist.
Rangers have enough hotheads that it seems it would be easy to get them to stop focusing on Green and focus on whovever just facewashed Gaborik after the play ended.
I say we run the King as many times as they run Bjork….. I say we antagonize Avery as much as we can to get him thrown out… use his bipolarness against him…
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by TheFuryUnleashed on Apr 19, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
If we’re gonna run Lundqvist, let’s do it Viktor Kozlov style.
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only problem is that Girardi, Sauer, McDonagh wouldn’t let Kozlov get that close to Henrik…That was most likely Redden as he avoided and all contact on the play
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that was my first good look at these hits that you guys are talking about
and i think that the “worst” had to be Staal’s on sunday…Campbell and the Disciple Gang should have had a meeting with Staal just for the sake of fairness, the second worst one could be Dubinsky’s hit where he came up a bit late and at an odd angle. The hit where Avery gets him and then Prust comes in seems more like Avery and Prust hitting both D men (not quite sure who Green’s partner is on the blue line).
Personally I don’t think there is any evidence to suggest “head hunting” by the Rangers in the series…its just been a tough, physical series and Green has taken some big hits…I’m sure I could find a few similar hits being made on Ranger players throughout the last three games
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Yeah, this is the dirtiest hit the Rags have ever thrown on Green. By a long shot. I’m not understanding all the commotion so far in this series.
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Apr 19, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
now that should have been a suspension worthy hit on Green…dont think Dubi got as a stern look from the ref on that play and should have been given a major, misconduct at least two games
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This is the question that must be asked to a Rangers fan.
“Do you think all this talk about hitting Mike Green in the head will make it tougher to get away with something dirty and/or marginal in the rest of the series?” If the answer is yes, then mission accomplished.
not at all…because the rangers wont play that game they know better (sean avery aside…i still dont trust him)
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I think your answering a different question. No one has any issues with clean hits on Green…if your gonna hit him hard and often then fine….but another one like Stall’s and we want 4 or 5 minutes for that. That’s all this is about….take your chances all day…..I hope the Rangers keep away from the head…but if they dont…
oh i see you’re asking if the refs will be more vigilant for those kinds of hits (i think?)…then the answer is a firm maybe because with how inconsistent the refs have been all year and factoring human error on a hit that happens behind the play (like the staal hit)
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exactly…will the extra attention put a little pressure on the refs to call something if it happens. I think Boudreau knows the Rangers are going to keep hitting Green, and he’s hoping if it’s high it gets called and Green doesn’t go back into a concussion…
Frankly, I wish the Caps were trying to make someone’s life miserable as well, but we really dont have anyone on the Rangers that garners the respect to target right now. I guess if Gaborik could earn 10% of his paycheck we could run at him a bit.
While we’re talking about putting pressure on the refs to call something, let’s assume that they wont use Game 3’s 7-3 PP ratio in favor of the Rags to give us any “make up” calls in Game 4. I know a lot of people will be expecting it, but it’s better to doubt any form of referee justice in the next game.
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Apr 19, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Not at all. The officiating will continue to be consistently inconsistent for all 16 teams in the playoffs.
by Dave Shapiro on Apr 20, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
BB Had to open his mouth, didn't he?
Yes, the building gets loud – when the PA system plays shitty music and the scoreboard urges the fans to scream by litterally telling them to scream. Oh and fans looooove to cheer to movie montages. The Caps fanbase deflates faster than a popped baloon after a big goal by the opponent, and the organization tries to rile them up with cheap gimmicks. So pardon me, Bruce, for preferring the arena that houses smart fans that exults its team to win, and not the one that urges its "fans" to scream.
This was taken from Blueshirt Banter. And there’s plenty more where that came from. I hope I meet this guy at Game 5.
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Apr 19, 2011 7:25 PM EDT reply actions
I like how the lack of technology at MSG = Rangers fans are smarter than Caps fans.
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Apr 19, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
now i take personal offense to this
see i’ve been coming here the last few games to have some intelligent discussions with the opponents and I’ve enjoyed my stay here but I won’t let you offend basically me since you’re generalizing by saying “ranger fans”. I guess you’re in the minority here because everyone else has been fairly inviting and open…oh well
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by Kevin Power on Apr 19, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
How about you read the comment I quoted off Blueshirt Banter and then we can talk about generalizing.
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Apr 19, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
im not saying that we’re all geniuses and i dont agree with that comment from the banter…i know that we have a lot ignorant fans over there and at the garden…and yes i think i over reacted and for that i apologize…im on a personal crusade to try and change the image of ranger fans around SBNation…my bad
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by Kevin Power on Apr 19, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
No need for you to apologize, If I saw that comment on the Banter (substitute “Ranger fans” with “Caps fans”) I would be upset as well. As Caps fans we have been called bandwagoners for the last 5 years, so it upset me to see a comment like that. There are a ton of ignorant fans in every fan base, ours included.
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Apr 19, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
can’t we all just get along and revel in our mutual disdain for all things Pennsylvania hockey?
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by Kevin Power on Apr 19, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Except for the Hershey Bears, yes we can! :D
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Apr 19, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
lol…i forgot about them…so aside from them
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by Kevin Power on Apr 19, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
are ranger fans really that bad? I mean I’m quite biased against thinking that way because i know a lot of very intelligent and realistic Ranger fans (most of them hang out at Blueshirt Banter) I guess that is the minority or something…Does it come from the negative feelings towards New Yorkers in general?
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by Kevin Power on Apr 20, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
F&B was unceremoniously booted from BSB around the time of the McIlrath drafting, IIRC. I don’t remember why exactly.
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by George E. Ays on Apr 20, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
oh…well then…that sucks
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Also, I said “all ragers fans”…meaning I was poking fun at the person who wrote that who basically said MSG houses “smart fans” and we’re just a bunch of sheep that scream when we’re told to.
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Apr 19, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh, people hitting Green is nothing new. None of those hits really piss me off other than Staals, and I think that’s mostly because he’s a big name player who got away with one (clearly).
I’m more worried about us scoring more goals than the Rangers do tomorrow than how many times Green gets hit tomorrow.
Warning: I started watching hockey in 2007. So, yeah. Heh.
Apparently, Caps fans (and team-related online media) are not the only people who think that teams deliberately target the heads of previously concussed players.
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