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Cahlan Mazur seizing his mom’s walker and thrusting it into the air again and again . . .

That Steinz piece is a really well done version of that kind of thing.

"This guy is an android. He's not human....Oh my goodness."

by Sam DC on Apr 15, 2011 6:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Alzner on our anxiety
"They really want us to win, but at the same time they’re nervous because they know what happened last year. I can understand that."

Last year? Oh, Karl. For all your savvy and stalwart D, you really are new around here…

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by redlineblue on Apr 15, 2011 7:25 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

“They really want us to win, but at the same time they’re nervous because they know what happened in 89, 00, 01, 08, 09 and last year. I can understand that.”

by SA-Town on Apr 15, 2011 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pat LaFonwho?

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by bilspacecadet on Apr 15, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lafawnduh ?

What doesnt kill you makes you stronger.

by BetterOffWith28 on Apr 15, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

And ‘92, too. Don’t forget that one.

by RCheli on Apr 15, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Never will. 3-1, Toddy Krygier beautiful breakaway, and then it all fell apart. So common…

by katzistan on Apr 15, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Two Game Leads blown in Caps playoff History:

1985 – Caps take 2-0 lead, lose to Islanders 3-2
1987 – Caps take 3-1 lead, lose to Islanders 4-3 (Incl. the Easter Epic)
1992 – Caps take 3-1 lead, lose to Penguins 4-3
1995 – Caps take 3-1 lead, lose to Penguins 4-3
1996 – Caps take 2-0 lead, lose to Penguins 4-2
2003 – Caps take 2-0 lead, lose to Lightning 4-2
2009 – Caps take 2-0 lead, lose to Penguins 4-3
2010 – Caps take 3-1 lead, lose to Canadiens 4-3

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Apr 15, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it"

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Apr 15, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Its gotta change sometime…

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by Cap-O-Vens on Apr 15, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

blown leads in 95 and 96, Cup Finals in 97?

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by Alz in the family on Apr 15, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

’98, no?

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

97-98 season

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by Cap-O-Vens on Apr 15, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

so blown lead in 08, 09, Cup win in 10, Ill take it.

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by Cap-O-Vens on Apr 15, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Must be an equibestionecrophiliac.

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by AMusingFool on Apr 15, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude…you tryin’ to make me stab a hobo or something?

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Reminding me is not helping. I try to bury those in my subconscious.

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by Carl Putnam on Apr 15, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

....

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by Cap-O-Vens on Apr 15, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Butbutbutbut…

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Apr 15, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why? Why do post such hateful things?

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by Boggles on Apr 15, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mike-L is making a transparent effort to reverse-jinx the Caps. Between this and his Pro-Rags-Ant-Caps hate-comments at BSB…I’m onto you buddy.

But I ain’t gonna stop ya.

The keyboard is mightier.

by breed16 on Apr 15, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

GAH I’M AN IDIOT.

SA-Town is trolling at BSB, not Mike-L. Sorry dude…

The keyboard is mightier.

by breed16 on Apr 15, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

hope you didn’t read our scribbles…

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by ThePeerless on Apr 15, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t read things that disagree with my point of view. Especially if there are facts involved.

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by Boggles on Apr 15, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’re just the facts…. history is what it is.

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Apr 15, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those facts are why we old-school Caps fans are the way we are.

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by Kareem E. on Apr 15, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah man. You started watching in 2005, too?

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

If half the Caps fanbase is really post-2005……[siiiiggggghhhhh]

[shaking head]

[crying now]

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by Kareem E. on Apr 15, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d be interested in this data. I bet it’s not as large as you’d think. A lot of fans are dormant during down years, but were there before.

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by breed16 on Apr 15, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bailed when they picked up Jagr. I spent the better part of a decade loathing him, no way I could cheer for the guy that became the centerpiece of a team. Was so happy when he was shipped out and I could enjoy hockey again.

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Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.

by sydtron on Apr 15, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just didn’t cheer for the individual player; never clapped when his name was announced; never cheered a goal or assist credited to him, but I didn’t want to give up watching live hockey.

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 15, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, it was pretty dead when he was here…

(rim shot)

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by ThePeerless on Apr 15, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

At the risk this question gets buried at the bottom of this discussion...

Joe B (from same article):

you can feel it in the stands: As soon as the game is nothing-nothing in the third period, fans are like, ‘Oh God, when is it going to happen? . . . It’s gonna happen to us again.’ I wish that specter would go away. I want it to, and it will. They’ve just got to win."

Do you think that effects the on-ice performance? I’ve always wondered how much the fans’ psyche plays into the players’. It has to have an effect, right?

If so, are all of these blown leads and letdowns somehow OUR fault? (methinks yes).

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by breed16 on Apr 15, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

from Blueshirt Banter
Joe Beninati is brutal to listen to

"And as it’s my personal opinion, I’d appreciate not being told it’s stupid, thanks." - BeccaH

by hotdog88gt on Apr 15, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone mentioned he keeps referring to the puck as the biscuit. Nope, try again!

by _Skullduggery_ on Apr 15, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I just decided to go there a little bit ago and saw that. I’m sure whoever they listen to is nothing in comparison to JoeB

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by sami426 on Apr 15, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is Caps cast off

Marv albert’s son. Man he sucks. Whenever he gets a NFL game, you immediately know it is meaningless. He is the D squad.

by brettpedigo on Apr 15, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

funny how he always seems to get the skins games.

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by Steve. on Apr 15, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t mind Joe B, but do yourself a favor and never count how many times he says “winds and fires” per game.

by grapejoos on Apr 15, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

JoeB is better than Mr. “Sprinkle Along”.

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by hotdog88gt on Apr 15, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, scratch that – it’s “winds and drives”

by grapejoos on Apr 15, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

t’s rare that a team can change its identity without changing the guy calling the shots, but alas, that’s what the Caps have done.

Why the “alas”?

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by stemmer on Apr 15, 2011 6:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Great question. I think that repeating in the East despite a mid-season system transformation is a really impressive accomplishment, and that B4 belongs in the Adams hunt for pulling it off. Due credit to GMGM for massaging the roster to fine effect, but that’s some serious coaching.

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by redlineblue on Apr 15, 2011 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

GMGM does deserve a lot of credit

by Richard Arthur-Gyamfi on Apr 15, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re right – poor word choice. I changed it.

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by J.P. on Apr 15, 2011 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

The comments have some pretty great puns. Remind me of things in here. Thanks for the link.

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by stemmer on Apr 15, 2011 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone else having the page do an auto-refresh on IE?

/emailing SBN tech gang

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by Bald Pollack on Apr 15, 2011 7:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Yup.

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by J.P. on Apr 15, 2011 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

IE

There’s your problem. ;)

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by The Ghost of Bebop on Apr 15, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Quick, someone email the federal government and tell them to change their software policies! Make sure you do it on Outlook though.

by Cluster on Apr 15, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

From Blueshirt Banter scoring chances recap:

the Washington Capitals’ ‘counter-punching’ created more than half of their total chances for the game, and twice as many as the New York Rangers were able to generate, and both of their goals were quick strike situations.
the Rangers were not able to keep Washington to the outside much, with 17 of the 21 Caps chances coming from up the middle and around the net.

More please.

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by NGreenberg on Apr 15, 2011 7:49 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

The chances from in tight were particularly encouraging. Hopefully that continues.

Also encouraging: the Rags’ 1st line really did well against the Caps’ second line. The Rags’ first line has been broken up, with AA to the 4th and Christensen to the first.

Schultz was on the ice for 10 chances-for and 5 against. Just sayin’.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great post. I especially like the first chart because you know that after he uploaded it, he said to himself, “Fuck, I left the cursor in that one cell before screen-grabbing it… oh well, fuck it.”

Seriously, though, great stuff.

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by J.P. on Apr 15, 2011 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Heh. Didn’t even notice it until you pointed it out. That’s pretty funny, and I definitely empathize. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve had that exact same internal discussion.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

"Fuck, I left the cursor in that one cell before screen-grabbing it… oh well, fuck it."

.

The curse word in question this time happened to be “shit.” But yes, I had to bang it out quickly and didn’t want to spend time cleaning it up or re-cropping.

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by George E. Ays on Apr 15, 2011 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent work on that article George. Logging what type of chance it was AND where the chance happens on the ice is not easy in addition to logging the chance itself.

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by NGreenberg on Apr 15, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just bustin’ your chops – great work, and I certainly have been there/done that.

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by J.P. on Apr 15, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

JP really seems to have the chops busters out so far today. Playoff stress? Be on your toes, everyone.

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by stemmer on Apr 15, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great read and nice job collecting the data and putting that analysis together. Looking forward to seeing those scoring chance write-ups three (and only three) more times this season.

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by Kareem E. on Apr 15, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is why even when it was 1-0, I wasn’t overly worried about “Le Habs 2.0”

17 of the 21 Caps chances coming from up the middle and around the net.

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by smutsboy1 on Apr 15, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

both of their goals were quick strike situations.

Accurate, but misleading. The first goal started on a controlled breakout from behind our net. Green made a great stretch pass up the middle when the Rags forecheckers pressured the two normal outlets; Rags D collides, sending AO and Semin in alone, goal. It was a full ice rush (weird how little we’ve seen of that this year), not really a counter-punch. The second was a classic failed clear goal. Both happened pretty fast, but that’s the end of the similarity as I see it.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

The first goal was perfect.

1) Gain the O-zone.

2) Crash the net.

3) Don’t rip the puck past the top corner and spring the other team on a 4-2.

4) Whack away at the rebound until you hear the whistle, then whack one more time for good measure.

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by iwearstripes on Apr 15, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right, that’s what we’ve looked for all along. Of course, we rarely have a chance to stand there and whack without 5 guys from the opposition busting our balls.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Helps when #8 throws one of them across the crease like he’s swatting at a fly. Also doesn’t hurt when the defensemen crash into each other as Semin’s heading into the zone.

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by iwearstripes on Apr 15, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

which is why Ovie needs to play down in the paint on the power play. You don’t see centers or power forwards staying out near the 3 point line, after all.

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by sydtron on Apr 15, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seemed like AO’s pile-driving of Dubinski froze the Rags for a second.

It was weird that AO and 28 had that much time to hammer away at it.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dubinski

Girardi.

Matt Hendricks is a honey badger.

by D'ohboy on Apr 15, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oops.

Yeah, him.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

2) Crash the net. Obliterate the dude trying to cover you.

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by D'ohboy on Apr 15, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

For all the trouble the Caps had generating speed through the neutral zone for 80% of the season, that was only an issue in game one when the Rangers had the lead for 11 minutes. I think the Rags are going to really struggle when the game is tied or when they are trailing.

by Kolzilla on Apr 15, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, and so do the Corsi numbers.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

IIRC, Rangers led Corsi (barely, +1) through regulation. They got mauled in OT.

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by George E. Ays on Apr 15, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m talking season long Corsi numbers. Didn’t the Objective Hockey link recently show a pretty big disparity in Game-Tied Corsi?

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, ok, yes, the Rangers tied haven’t been great Corsi-wise (Fenwick’s about even for the year, I think)

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by George E. Ays on Apr 15, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

How are you all feeling after game one? I know a lot of the Rangers’ post-game comments were along the lines of “we did a lot of positive things, we just need to keep at it.”

Is the general consensus that they’ll be OK with a repeat performance?

by Kolzilla on Apr 15, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d say the general pulse is ‘cautiously optimistic.’ I think most realize the team got away with murder for a long time before they started to at least create the illusion of controlling things.

The positive spin is that they had a lead in a game where their leading scorer was absolutely awful, their most talented forward was just ok, and their top pair was overworked and generally unproductive.

Personally, I still have the same feeling about this series, can see Caps in 4 to Rangers in 7, and everything in between.

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by George E. Ays on Apr 15, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

How do you solve the “top pair was overworked” issue? To me, that’s the most important item on your list.

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by stemmer on Apr 15, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really think that you have to at least give your 5/6 time on the ice. McCabe is over the hill, yes, but if he’s such a defensive liability, find someone else.

by RCheli on Apr 15, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can’t really trust McCabe and Gilroy to take Ovechkin, and that SOB is seemingly always on the ice. Makes it tough.

The only other solution is to trust the kids more and try to make Staal/Girardi’s minutes at least a tad easier, rather than have them solely chasing Ovechkin around for 20 minutes a game.

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by George E. Ays on Apr 15, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

You have to do something, though. Boudreau has shown that he doesn’t really care about matchups, so I don’t know how much you have to worry.

Is there anyone at Binghamton that they can recall? What about Redden? :-)

by RCheli on Apr 15, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Rangers farm team hasn’t been in Binghamton since Bill Clinton was in office.

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by iwearstripes on Apr 15, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was being trying to be funny (Binghamtom — Redden). Obviously I’m not that funny.

by RCheli on Apr 15, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

You mean Connecticut, and no. They don’t have anyone ready, and even if they did (for instance, if Del Zotto was healthy), they’re already at the post-deadline call-up limit, so it would only be allowed w/ an injury emergency.

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by George E. Ays on Apr 15, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m a huge Chris Drury fan, but he really shouldn’t be out there as he’s clearly not 100%. Throughout the game he’d go out for defensive zone draws only to skate off right after his team gained possession (which is likely what led to the OT goal). Between him and Anisimov, there just wasn’t enough pressure on the Caps’ forwards as they came through the neutral zone.

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by D'ohboy on Apr 15, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

I did pigeon-hole the categories a bit, so there’s no differentiation between a controlled end to end rush and an offensive zone/neutral zone turnover that sprung the opposition the other way. I could break ‘transition’ down’ a little further, to maybe neutral zone turnovers and full-ice rushes, to get a little better picture.

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by George E. Ays on Apr 15, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Either way, it was good stuff and hopefully with feedback it’ll be even more refined as the series wears on.

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by D'ohboy on Apr 15, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Not knocking the work, just pointing out how I saw the two goals. It’s the basic problem with coding scoring chances, so many possibilities of how they came about.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, you’re absolutely right. When I wrote it, I was more thinking about quick strike in terms of the play came down and it was in the net quickly. There’s definitely a big difference between the Ovi and Semin goals and how they developed.

Usually, people complain about the differences in where the shot came from and how they developed, so I figured I’d take a stab at capturing it. There’s a canyon of room for refinement.

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by George E. Ays on Apr 15, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unlike many here, I have a hard time comprehending some statistical breakdowns, but even I found what you put together really informative. I’m looking forward to seeing how the numbers for game two break out compared to game one. Nice job.

by b.orr4 on Apr 15, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

The data instself is fantastic by the way, and I’m real pleased you’re recording and publishing it.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

From the Hockey Prospectus article:

History is therefore not telling us that depth is a bad thing, but rather that it is far less important than how good the team is overall

Um, yeah. This is a strange read. One would think, from the chart and the first couple of grafs, that the point is the importance of depth to a playoff run. But then they seem to argue that depth isn’t very important, only to sum up that depth probably is important all else being equal (how do you calculate that?).

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by stemmer on Apr 15, 2011 7:58 AM EDT reply actions  

All else being equal, if you have something else that makes it unequal in your favor, that is good for you. Duh.

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by J.P. on Apr 15, 2011 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

That article was definitely difficult to pick a conclusion out of. The gist of it, as I read it, was that depth is important but will not bail you out if you have a sub-par top line. So if two teams both have great top lines, the team with better overall depth will fair better (obviously). But a team with a fantastic top line and mediocre depth still has a better chance against a team with a mediocre top line and fantastic depth.

Great Top Line > Great Depth > Mediocre Depth.

by HockeyGoalie29 on Apr 15, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

they seem to argue that depth isn’t very important, only to sum up that depth probably is important all else being equal (how do you calculate that?).

…perhaps if they’d used one of their own measures, a normalized GVT. I keep wondering about that “replacement” player in the GVT measure.

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by ThePeerless on Apr 15, 2011 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

A season ago, that replacement player was Craig Adams – GVT: 0. Three-quarters of the way through this season (since GVT hasn’t been updated), it was Tyler Bozak and Jamal Mayers. Congrats to all of our Mr. Replacement contestants…

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by J.P. on Apr 15, 2011 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

All those guys fit my general description of legit-but-eminently-replaceable-4th-liner.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I shal now spend the day playing mental images of an Adams-Bozak-Mayers line.

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by ThePeerless on Apr 15, 2011 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Depth is important, unless it’s not, except on those occasions when it is.

On the Caps particularly, I’m not convinced by the total numbers they show. The “depth” players were, for a long part of the season, MP, MarJo (in the early stages of a learning curve, note), Hendricks, Chimera, Fehr, Steckel, Bradley and Gordon. Not a lot of GVT there. Getting Arnott and Sturm has a cascade effect of making the third line more dangerous, and also more manageable. The 4th line becomes more of a typical energy line.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

By examining the collective GVT of a team’s top line vs. its depth players, we can see which teams get the most contribution from their grinders.
Washington 95.1

They have WSH “top line” as having a total of 95.1 which by my math would incl (in alpha order):

Alzner
Backstrom
Carlson
Green
Hendricks
Knuble
Laich
Ovi
Schultz
Semin

So there’s one issue: Hendricks over MJ90 as part of the “top line,” when I would classify Hendy as a “grinder.”

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by NGreenberg on Apr 15, 2011 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

They’d probably get tagged with a Too Many Men for trotting out that top line…

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by EmilyB on Apr 15, 2011 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Pretty epic brain cramp there…

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

You can get away with that for about 20 seconds if you wear black and gold, if I remember correctly. (And I can’t remember, was that in the 2009 final?)

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by gfcaps fan on Apr 15, 2011 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Got away with it last night for about 2 minutes, of course that was pick up and no refs were there…

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by Cap-O-Vens on Apr 15, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Habs got away with it several times last year.

by SethB on Apr 15, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Twice I believe. One time all 6 were deep in the DZone .

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by Cap-O-Vens on Apr 15, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

And they did it for about 20 seconds, too.

by b.orr4 on Apr 15, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have similarly conflicted attitudes toward depth. It has its value, particularly in the playoffs where injuries can be so influential. Where people err on depth is in believing that it’s a substitute for having elite players. . . it isn’t. Chicago had great depth last year, but they don’t win if Toews, Kane, Hossa, Sharp, Keith, Seabrook and Niemi don’t play well. Guys like Bolland, Versteeg and Kopecky are nice to have, because they can exploit the opposition’s weaker players in limited ice time, but they’re not capable of driving the bus, so to speak.

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by D'ohboy on Apr 15, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your Quote-o’-the-Day…

“We just have to bear down a little more. There were a lot of times when we had chances when the puck was kicking around in the crease, and we just couldn’t get it up.”

— Flyer Danny Syvret

Is he describing a hockey game or his experience when he ran out of Viagra?

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by ThePeerless on Apr 15, 2011 8:09 AM EDT reply actions  

In related “hockey game or erectile dysfunction?” quotes, Torts after Game 1:

“…It’s not adversity, it’s finding a way to be better for longer.”

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by J.P. on Apr 15, 2011 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Get longer for better?

/Smilin’ Bob’d

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

“puck kicking around in the crease” is now new euphemism, I guess.

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by ThePeerless on Apr 15, 2011 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

One situation where having a lot of “traffic in front of the net” is a bad thing…

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Apr 15, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did he say this while sitting outside in a bathtub?

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by stemmer on Apr 15, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Locker after Semin’s goal said, paraphrasing, Staal couldn’t get it up. (Something something getting it up something something Semin shot.)

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I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed that.

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by WordsOnIce on Apr 15, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

He says that a lot. My old roommate and I started adding “maybe he was nervous…” each time we heard that phrase. Because we’re 12.

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If I haven’t mentioned this before, I’m very fond of you. :-)

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by WordsOnIce on Apr 15, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

In a blatant attempt to rehash an old discussion, the awesomeness of 20k people singing the anthem without yelling during it*, as evidenced last night in Portland.

  • Ignoring the scarves and fireworks obviously.

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by Bald Pollack on Apr 15, 2011 8:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Oof, bullet FAIL.

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bullet FAIL

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by ThePeerless on Apr 15, 2011 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

um lots of yelling during that anthem rendition. very cool to behold, though.

by Natty Bumppo on Apr 15, 2011 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

•Finally, happy 34th birthday to Brian Pothier.

So what’s Pots doing nowadays, anyone know?

by Brainumbc on Apr 15, 2011 8:27 AM EDT reply actions  

If only there was a way to find the answer to that question without asking it publicly…

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by J.P. on Apr 15, 2011 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sucks, man. I rember the dicussion about how hard it was for Pots when he was traded having to deal with being away from the family when his kids were in the middle of the school year and such.

Now he’s in a whole different continent. Dayumn. I imagine it’s a tough enough decision to go to a different continent when you’re young and freewheeling, but when you have your whole family. Bleh

by Brainumbc on Apr 15, 2011 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

He had a pretty good season there – 10 goals and 40 points in 56 games.

by Wheeler on Apr 15, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

If only there was a way to find the answer to that question without asking it publicly…

Cut me some slack, jack. Just trying to get a conversation going about Pots.

by Brainumbc on Apr 15, 2011 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was OT when we talked about Pot the other day. I imagine it’s still OT.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Legalize Poti!

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by stemmer on Apr 15, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

Regulate and tax brittlegroins for profit.

by Wheeler on Apr 15, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

In Vogel’s preview, he writes that

…the Capitals are generally happy with their opening game performance. They should be. They controlled the play for the most part

[Emphasis mine]

and

…Washington can take comfort in having the played the style of game it wanted to play in Game 1…

I find myself in complete disagreement here.

In general, I thought the style of game was precisely what the Rags hoped for. In particular, NYR had zero resistance through neutral and were able to get the puck below the goal line and cycle, which was pretty obviously their goal.

I also thought that the Caps controlled play in the first, and for the final ~12 minutes of the OT. In between, the Rags did pretty much what they wanted.

That’s not to say the Rags dominated in the traditional sense. Their strategy, to me, was to spend as much time in the Caps end, hope to get a couple ugly ones, and then let Lundy do the rest. It almost worked.

For tonight, I’m hoping that the Caps spend a bunch more time in the Rags’ end, and generate more chances off of zone pressure and rely less on transition (while still capitalizing in transition, where they obviously have an edge).

I know it’s the playoffs, and it’s extremely rare for one team to dominate entirely; the other guy is going to get some chances. But I thought that analysis was…odd.

Agree or disagree?

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 8:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Agree or disagree?

Too early to tell IMO. The game was fast paced (at first) but it seemed more like a game where they were feeling each other out.

Then again, I think a lotta game 1’s this round seemed like “feeler” games. Definately a lot of low scoring affairs: PHI vs BUF, MON vs BOS, our game, VAN vs CHi

by Brainumbc on Apr 15, 2011 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

If those are my only two choices I have to disagree…. but with caveats and addenda.

Agreed that the Rangers were allowed thru Neutral and to cycle the puck.
But also looked like the Caps were not going to give up passing lanes, or chase the puck just because the NY had possession. Basically, the way I interpreted Caps D was they were content to allow point “blasts” (hehe I said blasts) into traffic as a route to puck possession, rather than losing a man in the slot or along the wall by chasing after the cycle. This is in no way to say I think this was smart, but it did seem intentional.

To me, the Caps looked comfortable even when the Rangers had the puck (as in no panicked skating, very little blown coverage, no ranger in the slot was allowed a stick on the ice, centers and D didn’t leave their men in dangerous areas to chase after the puck lose in the scrum that sort of thing). It appeared that there was a team game plan of, “No matter what, they don’t get the middle of our zone” as opposed to, “We must get the puck out now.”

Subjective evidence to support this is: high percentage of ES NYR shots attempted from the blue line.

Their strategy, to me, was to spend as much time in the Caps end, hope to get a couple ugly ones, and then let Lundy do the rest. It almost worked.

Agree that this was the NYR strategy. Agree that it almost worked. But I also think this is exactly why BB et. al. took a, “Nobody gets the middle. Not for any reason.” approach. You have to get to the net with some control of your stick to get an ugly goal, and I only saw that happen twice, and on of them Ovi scored.

Hell, maybe I’m just going a bit Pollyanna, but it didn’t look like the Caps felt threatened when NY had the puck, and it sure seemed like when the Caps had the puck, they felt they could out play the Rangers’ D.
Anyway, that’s what I saw. However…

For tonight, I’m hoping that the Caps spend a bunch more time in the Rags’ end, and generate more chances off of zone pressure and rely less on transition (while still capitalizing in transition, where they obviously have an edge).

That right there is what I want to see tonight.

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by Boggles on Apr 15, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I disagree with you. The Rags are a good team, they are going to make some plays. I thought we really limited their quality chances and with a couple exceptions didn’t get pinned in our zone for too long. The Caps aren’t in a trade-chances mode anymore. They were patient and trusted their skill to prevail, which it did. Last year the team would have visibly been rocked by those two quick crossbars and/or the third period goal against. I was real happy with what I saw the other night (other than bullshit standard definition).

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

You think the Caps controlled the play and dictated the style of play?

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

For 60 minutes did they dominate and make it look like they were playing an NCAA DIII team? No.

But the Caps were undoubtedly the better team, undoubtedly had the better scoring chances, and deserved to win. That would have been another in a long line of playoff injustices if the Rags had stolen that one. The Rags are a good team and won’t quit. Don’t expect a 45-12 shot total in this series. Don’t expect a walk in the park.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

On balance, who controlled more of the play, and who had greater success getting the other team to play the way they desired?

Caps better team? Agree.

Caps had the better scoring chances? Agree.

Rags going to work hard and get some chances? Absolutely.

Basically, the Rags’ only chance is to make it a stealable game by slowing it down, cycling and getting a combo of great goaltending and good luck. I thought they were successful in that regard.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

What makes you say the Caps didn’t play the way they desired? Have you not been tracking the systems change? You should never have expected the Caps to play run and gun. They were going to try to control the puck, not give up high quality chances against, and be patient for their opportunities. I thought that’s exactly what they did.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Have I not been tracking the system change? Of course I have.

The Caps wanted (I think) to forecheck, cycle and possess the puck. Which they didn’t do all that well.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Guess we either saw different things or had vastly different baseline expectations.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough. Don’t know why I particularly care, as the Caps got pretty rotten luck to avoid being up at least a couple going in to the third. Nonetheless…

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

You’re WRONG!!1 U R rong!!111

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by D'ohboy on Apr 15, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck. I knew I was going to screw it up.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. There weren’t many times in game one were I really felt nervous about what the Rags were doing. When the puck was in the Caps defensive zone most of the play was along the boards and in the corners and very little actually funneled to the middle. Neuvirth was good when he had to be, but he had a rocking chair night compared to what Lundqvist had to face. Even though the Rangers had the lead late in the third, the Caps really controlled the play for most of the game.

by b.orr4 on Apr 15, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

From RMNB
Q. — Does Arnott give you gas money?

A. — "It only happened once, but now that you remind me…"

First, LOL.

Second, WTF?

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 8:44 AM EDT reply actions  

First, agreement LOL.

Second, probably remembered he hasn’t paid him back and needs to. Something tells me Ovie isn’t a cheapskate.

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by WordsOnIce on Apr 15, 2011 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s Semin speaking there, I should note.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ohhh, well in that case… ;-)

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by WordsOnIce on Apr 15, 2011 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

What’s more surprising: what Semin said or that he said anything at all?

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by NGreenberg on Apr 15, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tough one…

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does Sasha drive Arnott to work? Wonder where they stop for coffee and snacks on the way. Wonder what radio station they listen to.

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by stemmer on Apr 15, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does Sasha drive Arnott to work? Wonder where they stop for coffee and snacks on the way. Wonder what radio station they listen to.

How awesome of a sitcom would this be?

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by NGreenberg on Apr 15, 2011 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

They could call it Cuddle Bear and the Jedi Master.

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by WordsOnIce on Apr 15, 2011 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

“Hey, who left the oven on last night?”
“Duh, that would be me.”
(laugh track)
“Sashaaaaaa!”
(laugh track)

by Kolzilla on Apr 15, 2011 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

haha

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by smutsboy1 on Apr 15, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

nice one

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by LACapsFan on Apr 15, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m thinking perfect opp for “Perfect Strangers” reboot

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by NGreenberg on Apr 15, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks. That just made me access a part of my brain I’d conveniently forgotten about. X_x

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by WordsOnIce on Apr 15, 2011 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Id go more Bosom Buddies. Sasha even looks like that blonde guy (Peter something – JP could you look up his name for me? :) ) a bit.

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by stemmer on Apr 15, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Peter Scolari. Talk about two careers going in opposite directions. Tom Hanks is the “Jimmy Stewart” of modern film, and Scolari is doing theater in New Brunswick, NJ (really, he is… a play called “The Fox on the Fairway”)

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by ThePeerless on Apr 15, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

and a radio commercial for Boston Medical Clinic (or some such) selling erectile dysfunction remedies – heard it last week on NY radio. “Hi, Peter Scolari here to tell you about a problem I had…”

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by NJNJ on Apr 15, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

damn! I was totally thinking that would be my clever response. Sasha = Balki. Arny = Larry Appleton.

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by Boggles on Apr 15, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

BTW, I’m having to smack my head against a table cuz now I see Arnott & Semin doing this:

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by Boggles on Apr 15, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Please include a subject line in image-associated posts so Rats and Rabbits can collapse the post if need be.

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by Bald Pollack on Apr 15, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

blast! should have known better fail … :-/

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by Boggles on Apr 15, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

No worries. Go box, two minutes, feel shame, get free.

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by Bald Pollack on Apr 15, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh no…. this would be a male version of Absolutely Fabulous…

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Apr 15, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

There was an article the other day about Arnott getting a ride home from Dulles w/ Semin after the last Florida game. They were trying to point out Arnott’s ride choice was due to his trying to draw Semin out of his shell.

by Upstate NY on Apr 15, 2011 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m going to wager that Arnott doesn’t volunteer gas money.

Then again, Washington’s apparently changed him. So who knows?

Either way, funny stuff.

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by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not gas money, it’s Sasha’s allowance.

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by EmilyB on Apr 15, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

___

Bit late to the discussion from yesterday’s Clips, but re: this hit…

Caps definitely lucky not to have Erskine sitting for a game, IMO (in part due to the hit itself, in part due to the current climate on similar hits, in part due to the inconsistent Wheel o’ Justice).

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by J.P. on Apr 15, 2011 9:00 AM EDT reply actions  

The sitting for a game would come from the elbow use, I assume. Hard to tell from this angle, but he does seems to get that left elbow up into no-no territory. One would think they’ve reviewed it, but could a suspension still come?

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by stemmer on Apr 15, 2011 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Doubtful (probably would have had the hearing yesterday).

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by Bald Pollack on Apr 15, 2011 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

could argue he left his feet and hit the guy in the back.

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by alisterio on Apr 15, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

For sure it’s a little on the sketchy side, just thinking that if the WoJ was going to come down, it probably already would have.

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by Bald Pollack on Apr 15, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree on being hard to tell from this angle. I’d need to see it either from the side or from 180 degrees around to get a better feel for if the elbow made contact or Erskine’s shoulder hit the head. From this angle though, I’d say a clean shoulder to shoulder hit.

by HockeyGoalie29 on Apr 15, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

north-south hit on the man with the puck and he gets shoulder?

after the Stoll hit on White last night that went uncalled I don’t know what to expect to be called as boarding anymore

by Beakers Lab on Apr 15, 2011 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

north-south hit on the man with the puck and he gets shoulder?

No way to prove it, of course, but I’m guessing that if that was Sauer on Johansson, Caps fans wouldn’t view it as north-south and/or the shoulder as the principal point of contact.

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by J.P. on Apr 15, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

His head definitely gets pinned and banged off the glass.

Rorschach blots…

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

just to be clear I wasn’t stating that as the a solid defense, I was merely trying to throw out my guess as to what the Campbell was thinking.

and yes I realize that is an incredibly dangerous thing to do, nobody should ever try to get in the head of Colin Campbell.

by Beakers Lab on Apr 15, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

On the bright side, if you got stuck in is head, it certainly wouldn’t be like Groundhog’s Day.

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by iwearstripes on Apr 15, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully it’s like Being John Malkovich, but I think it’s probably more like the Cell. What the fuck is going on with that movie?

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

People who’s minds I do not want to enter: Serial Killers, Colin Campbell, Matt Cooke.

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by iwearstripes on Apr 15, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty short list, pretty open minded guy for a zebra.

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by Cap-O-Vens on Apr 15, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

So you want to enter Avery’s mind?

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by Bman21212 on Apr 15, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually… I think being in Sean Avery’s mind would be kind of awesome.

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I’d do it for the wardrobe in a heartbeat.

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by PrincessPowerful on Apr 15, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is certainly a character. Keeps the NHL interesting.

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by Bman21212 on Apr 15, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoa man, I need to take a shower after I watch that movie

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by Cap-O-Vens on Apr 15, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Depends on the angle of the camera :)

I didn’t like Johansson getting dumped in OT though because he was hit and thrown into the boards from the goal line, which is dangerous. However the hit itself was good in it being shoulder to shoulder and as a result Jojo, while taking a particularly hard hit, was able to control himself into the boards and get up unscathed.

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by breaklance on Apr 15, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

after the Stoll hit on White last night that went uncalled I don’t know what to expect to be called as boarding anymore

That shit was insane.

I literally don’t know how you could find a more clear example of boading/smashing someone’s head into the glass.

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When the NHL is looking for footage for a perfect example of a Major plus a Game Misconduct for Boarding, well, they’ve got it.

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by iwearstripes on Apr 15, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kieth Jones in the intermission even pointed out that Stoll looked at White right away like “oh s***, what did I just do?”

by Kolzilla on Apr 15, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

As an impartial observer, it looks more like shit-talking than concern to me.

by GusDaMan on Apr 15, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

i had the same respose — i was trying to figure out what he was saying to White because it wasn’t “I’m sorry.” if that was the case, stoll would have stopped keeping White pinned against the boards in a very painful way.

by Neuvychick on Apr 15, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

There were two baffling no-calls in the Buffalo game last night. One was a clear interference call the caused Jeanneret to come a bit more homerish than usual.

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by hotdog88gt on Apr 15, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s like saying “caused the ocean to become a bit more wet than usual.”

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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Apr 15, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bit lucky, yeah. It looks like it’s on the shoulder and not in the numbers and not 100% lateral….but the WOJ is temperamental and merciless, so avoiding a spin is always lucky.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is another one of those plays that at full speed looked like a solid clean hit to separate the man from the puck, but when slowed down and reviewed it still looks solid just not so clean. I think the left elbow "push away" at the end makes it look worse than it really was, but agree that this probably could have gone either way if it was reviewed for a potential suspension (1 game max).

by 7-Hole Glove Side on Apr 15, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

But it’s playoffs so anything short of a real injury isn’t going to be given attention. I’m real interested to see how the NHL handles Stoll.

This was nothing like the shot Dubinsky gave Green last time we saw the Rags in the playoffs. That was downright brutal and malicious.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

If the league doesn’t suspend Stoll, the entire “protect the head” campaign is utter bullshit.

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by D'ohboy on Apr 15, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily. That’s a regular season campaign. Playoffs are different.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Then they can STFU when somebody scrambles Crosby’s noodle in the second round and he does a Peter Mueller next year.

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by D'ohboy on Apr 15, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope you know I was joking. But there’s an unfortunate amount of truth in it.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I know, but we both know that there’s way too much truth to it. If Torres got four games, this deserves at least that much or more. Torres’ hit was at least from the side and not into the boards. This was just. . . brutal, and the injury to White could seriously derail San Jose’s playoff chances.

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by D'ohboy on Apr 15, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure I even saw the Torres hit.

SJS have plenty of ways to derail their own playoff chances.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

SJS, the west coast Capitals.

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by Bman21212 on Apr 15, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

sadly I own a Sharks Jersey. Maybe it’s me. LOL.

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by Alz in the family on Apr 15, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quick, get a Pens jersey!

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by timmyv38 on Apr 15, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Until Mike Green gets head bolts rattled again?

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by hotdog88gt on Apr 15, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t see that being suspendable. He came in from the side and hit him shoulder-to-shoulder. I could definitely see Campbell looking at it though, and who knows how it goes from there.

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by timmyv38 on Apr 15, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Could have been called for boarding, but I see nothing else wrong with this hit. Classic guy with his head down and therefore in no position to absorb the hit. Doesn’t look like Erskines elbow or shoulder made contact with his head and it certainly wasn’t a blind side or back pressure hit.

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by dcsportsfan1 on Apr 15, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

In the context of Game 1, that’s not even remotely close to a penalty. In the context of a normal playoff game, a penalty maybe. In the context of a regular season game, that’s a game or two off for Erskine if there was an injury. In the context of the rulebook, that’s a charge, elbow with a splash of boarding.

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by sydtron on Apr 15, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

normally officiated playoff game, that is.

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by sydtron on Apr 15, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Caps definitely lucky not to have Erskine sitting for a game

Really? I look at that and it seems like a textbook clean hit. Erskine leads with his arm to the Ranger’s shoulder and his feet never left the ice. The NY player hits his head against the glass, but that’s because it was so close to the boards. In fact, I don’t think Erskine even touched the guy’s head. To me, it was a perfect non-call. If the NHL starts eliminating those kind of hits, I fear for the game.

by b.orr4 on Apr 15, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think I explained my reasoning – I thought the hit was borderline, or at least close enough to it that in today’s NHL, since the dude’s head hit the glass hard, there was a chance it’d be reviewed. And once it’s in the hands of the reviewer… who the hell knows?

I don’t think it was a suspendable hit, but I think it was close enough that, all things considered, a one-gamer wouldn’t have surprised me.

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by J.P. on Apr 15, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of controversial hits, what do people think of Stoll’s hit on White?

I can’t believe there was no penalty on the play, and I do think Stoll should see some supplementary discipline.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Apr 15, 2011 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

I think he’ll be sitting for a game, maybe two. That’s a brutal hit. If Ovi’s hit on Campbell last year deserved 2 games, Stoll’s hit is easily 4, which after applying a generous playoff discount, works out to 1-2.

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by iwearstripes on Apr 15, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

brutal.

I have NO IDEA how the refs missed that one.

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by smutsboy1 on Apr 15, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

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by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

not surprising, no way he gets 5+ in the playoffs so a phone hearing is all that’s required. non-playoff suspension should be 5 games… he didn’t get the game misconduct last night so I’m guessing he gets 2 games. if he had gotten the 5 + game misconduct he would only get 1.

by Beakers Lab on Apr 15, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ought to be at least two games. He had FOREVER to see that White had his back turned. He came in with a full head of steam and then, to add injury to injury, drove through with his elbow to the back of White’s head.

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by D'ohboy on Apr 15, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

And he gave that creepy glare after the hit.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Apr 15, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

And pats him on the back. Gotta believe he hits him, whispers some real nasty shit to him, pats him on the back and skates away, smirking.

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by stemmer on Apr 15, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mirtle bringing the smiles. No PK-Su, Laich in the Selke discussion, Carlson for Calder.

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by winterion on Apr 15, 2011 9:23 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Yeah, kudos to Mirtle for actually having the guts to buck the trend of just looking at points in deciding ROY. I’ve always believed that voting for the Rookie of the Year should be weighted two to three times in favor of defensemen over forwards and goalies because of the difficulty in playing the position.

by b.orr4 on Apr 15, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

My only problem with Carlson for Calder is that while Subban (who I’d love to punch in the face) seemed to gain more confidence and get a little better as the season wore on, Carlson plateaued and seemed to lose steam.

Also, just like how I thought Crosby’s rookie season was more impressive than Ovechkin’s because he’s 2 years younger (even though Ovechkin had a better year and deserved the Calder), Skinner’s season was the most impressive because he’s just so young.

by RCheli on Apr 15, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Carlson had a rough patch in January and rebounded. Not sure where you are talking about losing steam. Plateau isn’t such a bad thing when your plateau is “top D pair on your team.”

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

What the hell happened with Hershey last night? I saw the result and the box score — what’s the story?

Sounds like it might be a bit of a wake-up call.

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by Gould Old Days on Apr 15, 2011 9:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Sounds like Holtby needs to get his hands to stop shaking. Letting up 5 goals to CAR’s AHL team is no way to make your case, boy.

Didn’t watch the game, and don’t care. Holtby had a front row seat for Neuvy last year. One goal lead in the third, he has to make it stand up.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

That should quiet the Holtby lobby for a while with regards to the NHL playoffs.

by Kolzilla on Apr 15, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

ha ha.

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by stemmer on Apr 15, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently he doesn’t have Caps-quality D in front of him and Charlotte is a bunch of speedy what-nots. And Tim Leone was lamenting that Collins is here in DC. Take that for what it’s worth, or at least what it tells you about the Hershey defense.

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by gfcaps fan on Apr 15, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Holtby gave up a goal on the very first shot he faced.

And a second goal on the third or fourth shot.

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by EmilyB on Apr 15, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jose Holtby. He’d be getting lambasted in D.C.

by Kolzilla on Apr 15, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I posted the youtube video link to the Hershey site with the highlights/lowlights; somewhere in this mass of posts.

I know I was lamenting Collins absence, but I missed Leone saying something about him being on call-up. Fact is Collins played almost the whole season for Hershey and was very steady on the blueline. There’s a huge drop-off from Collins to Oreskovic. Still not sure why Oreskovic got a jersey over some other D options like Miskovic (unless he’s hurt) or Kroll or even Yeo, but Collins has more experience than any of them. Leone tweeted a positive comment about Orlov’s performance during his first NA pro playoff game, but Orlov did take a penalty in the third period.

As to Holtby, he made one amazing save by all reports late in the second period, some other stellar saves and one goal went in off Gordon. Aucoin helped out on one play and turned it into a PPG for instead of a SHG, but they did score one SHG against Hershey. Like the team, not a good third period for Holtby.

Charlotte had the second most goals scored this season in the AHL and has speedy/talented forwards, including Bowman who finished the season with Carolina; the issues for Charlotte are on D and getting to Pogge.

French’s post-game comments were terse/brief and he wasn’t saying much other than Hershey changed the way they played in the third period (not in a good way.)

For the most part, the vets played like vets from what I have heard and could tell, but I only listened/didn’t watch last night.

Time to regroup with game 2 on Sunday.

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 15, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

P. McNeill, Orlov, Souray, Wellar, Fahey, and Oreskovic were the defensemen last night for the Bears.

Compare that to P. McNeill, Alzner, Carlson, Helmer, Amadio, and Wellar…the defensemen who dressed for the Bear’s Calder-clinching win over Texas last spring.

Think a year makes a difference?

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by ThePeerless on Apr 15, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here’s Leone’s recap

Obviously, not easy to replace Carlson and Alzner, but the Hershey team still has a mix of AHL vets, NHL prospects both on D and at forward. One issue with the D is Orlov’s inexperience and Oreskovic playing. I assume Kroll will play next game; not sure if Miskovic is hurt.

McNeill and Wellar are still there. Fahey, IMO, hasn’t been playing as well of late as he did earlier this season, but he has the ability at the AHL level. Souray is Souray.

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 15, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

oops, I think I forgot to click new window (vent, have no idea why that’s not the default); guess I will send in a request to the behind the scenes people at some point

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 15, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wideman on the ice per Carrera!

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 15, 2011 9:35 AM EDT reply actions  

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Good news

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 15, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

That is insane. Wideman just increased his badassness in my mind about 10-fold.

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by iwearstripes on Apr 15, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Remember that when we first got him, Dale Hunter was quoted as saying he was one tough guy. Something about willing to take a puck to the face or something like that.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Apr 15, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

…which he did a few games before being injured, if I recall correctly.

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by Becca H on Apr 15, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he limped to the bench more than once and never missed a shift…

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by dcsportsfan1 on Apr 15, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Very good news. Still don’t think that changes anything regarding his return to the lineup, but nice to see.

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by gfcaps fan on Apr 15, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is a positive from my perspective. In simplistic terms, I was wondering how long they’d wait in part over concerns about an infection.

I assume it will be a short skating session taking it easy, but only way it can be looked at is in a positive way from my perspective.

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 15, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

“Avoiding infection” is probably a good reason for him not to wear pads. ;)

by Wheeler on Apr 15, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

The wound would also need to be healed adequately, otherwise the stitches/closure will be too vulnerable to additional injury.

Dingos are involved. Best not to ask.

by alex_k on Apr 15, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno if they actually use it, but the Caps actually have a machine that disinfects and de-stinks their hockey equipment. I’ve never actually used one, but apparently they work quite well. If they haven’t already, Wideman’s stuff should be going in there right away.

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by iwearstripes on Apr 15, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d bet they do, I just wonder how effective it is. 99.99% of germs? Maybe. I used to dunk my equipment in my parents’ pool. The poor man’s version.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Ha. Gotta separate my bank statement from my parents…

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cause and effect – having a pool makes you poor. Ask my checkbook.

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by NJNJ on Apr 15, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have a pool, an indoor pool, as a matter of fact. A personal indoor pool.

Called a “bathtub.”

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by ThePeerless on Apr 15, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have a still and a large cooler…it’s upstairs in the kids’ bathroom

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by NJNJ on Apr 15, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

One would hope that whatever the Caps are using isn’t as tough on the pads as a pool would be.

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by AMusingFool on Apr 15, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s not a joke at all. Especially with an open wound. I know the NHL probably takes care of their equipment better than anyone else, but there are still nasty bacteria and fungi that can grow in there. I don’t think they’d put it on his leg if they had any concern about infection.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

All new equipment from helmet to skates should be the rule for D-Wides.

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by EmilyB on Apr 15, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

That might be excessive, but would work. Depends how sensitive he is to breaking in new gear.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was more a joke in the sense of “way to go, Captain Obvious.” I’ve worn my pads maybe 30 times total, and even with that limited wear I don’t want to have an open wound in the same room as them.

by Wheeler on Apr 15, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

My ex-roommate is a goalie, and has rancid equipment. Years ago his then GF put her hand in his goalie glove when she had a recent cut. She contracted a some kind of nasty fungus on her hand that took forever to go away.

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by iwearstripes on Apr 15, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds about right.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

There was some player about five years ago who got an abrasion from tying his skates, then got a really terrible staph infection on his finger and was out for like a month or so. I want to say he was European and played for the Sens, but his name escapes me.

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by D'ohboy on Apr 15, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jay McKee got one after blocking a shot AGAINST the Sens….but there may be another guy.

(And yes, I had to look that up.)

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by Becca H on Apr 15, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mario Lemieux had a really serious infection after back surgery the offseason before they won their first Cup. He missed an extra 30 games because of it.

by RCheli on Apr 15, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

A whole lot of Cleveland Browns got Staff Infections just from using the team’s facilities a couple of years ago. I think the players are/were trying to sue to team.

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by Alz in the family on Apr 15, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

A whole lot of Cleveland Browns got Staff Infections

Seems like outsourcing should have taken care of this.

by redpezrocket on Apr 15, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

as Chris Rock would say “pour some ’tussin on it”

by Beakers Lab on Apr 15, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Run outta Tussin? Put some water in the bottle; shake it up; mo’ Tussin.

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by D'ohboy on Apr 15, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

on a serious note, when nothing else will come out of a hershey syrup bottle, pour milk in it and shake it up, you will thank me later..

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by Cap-O-Vens on Apr 15, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure they have antimicrobial long pants to wear under their gear to try and prevent such things. I have a pair just for that reason.

There was a great article in the WaPo a few years ago talking about the lengths the Redskins have gone to to prevent MRSA and other such nasty thinks from invading their locker room.

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by dcsportsfan1 on Apr 15, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

That is unbelievable .. I hope she doesnt mean he has ice on his leg.

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by Cap-O-Vens on Apr 15, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ovi cracks me up – via Tom Gulitti:

Ovechkin (from bench) to Wideman: “How is it, baby?” Wideman: “Good”

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by Becca H on Apr 15, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Proof!

Sky Kerstein’s got some pics:


And apparently he’s off now, about 15 minutes skating. Not bad for a guy who just spent 2 weeks in a hospital lying down…

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by Becca H on Apr 15, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

Awesome…great suprise this am

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by Cap-O-Vens on Apr 15, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wideman Vs Kaberle

After watching Kaberle last night, and since he joined the Bruins, it’s hard to not feel like Wideman was the steal of the trade deadline for a puck moving defenceman. GMGM did well.

by Direction 87 on Apr 15, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think that Boston could’ve afforded Wideman’s salary next year.

by RCheli on Apr 15, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s why they moved him in the first place…

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t also this year was going to be a problem with Savard’s salary on the books? They couldn’t know he basically wasn’t going to play.

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by gfcaps fan on Apr 15, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah that issue was hanging over them.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

And yes, Kaberle sucks.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I knock Wideman’s defense all the time but Kaberle is a trainwreck in his own zone. Dude just flat out doesn’t look like he cares, almost a caricature of what people portray Green as.

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by sydtron on Apr 15, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what I used to tell PPP. Everything you say about Mike Green… it’s Kaberle. But not as good.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

A few of my friends (Bruins fans) are really hating Kaberle.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Apr 15, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t he cost them a goal (first goal?) on a brutal turnover last night?

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t see the first goal, and haven’t seen a full highlight, but judging by the texts I got … yes.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Apr 15, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Saw the highlight, he was in no man’s land in his own zone and left Gionta alone in front.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t see it mentioned in the Clips, but BB was on one of the radio shows on Sirius’ NHL Radio yesterday talking about the crowd at Verizon, and the fan base. He mentioned that he’d never heard it as loud at Verizon Center has it was on Wednesday. I’d have to agree. At times it was deafeningly loud on Wednesday night.

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by iwearstripes on Apr 15, 2011 9:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Short memory, no doubt. I wasn’t there – how did it compare to the last five minutes of game 7 vs the Rangers two years ago?

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by gfcaps fan on Apr 15, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

No question but the last five minutes of game 7 against the Rangers two years ago. (My ears are still ringing from the recollection). But yes I think the first period of game 1 this time around, especially at the beginning, and then the OT winner were incredibly loud.

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by capsyoungguns on Apr 15, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed, it was loud, but not as loud as Game 7. I did have to ask my friend who was sitting in the upper level what song was played during the pregame intro video. Hopefully the place is rockin again tonight. Can’t wait!

by JimCareyFanClub on Apr 15, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t wait either. And this time the crowd nervousness might be lessened a bit—I think the second period had a fair amount of internal hand wringing by the fans with the agonizing missed opportunities and 0-0 score.

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by capsyoungguns on Apr 15, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m a lot less nervous heading into tonight than I was for game 1. Seeing the boys stick with the game plan and not panic when they had some bad bounces gave me confidence

by Beakers Lab on Apr 15, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

What is this “less nervous” feeling you speak of? I’m still nervous as hell!

by redpezrocket on Apr 15, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was an absolute disaster before game 1. on a scale of 0-10 I was a 15. heading into tonight’s game I’m at a 6.

by Beakers Lab on Apr 15, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I first realized how loud it was when I couldn’t hear Wes announce the starting lineup. His voice alone is usually enough to leave my ears ringing.

by TheBored on Apr 15, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was insane. And I watched the last minute of OT on Gamecenter yesterday and noticed that you can barely hear Joe B yelling after Sasha scored the GWG. It was really loud in there at times.

Brads also said on the postgame show that Sturm was saying on the bench that he couldn’t hear guys next to him. And Brads added that he thinks VC is the loudest building in the NHL…but I think he’s just buttering us up, he probably says that to all the fans ;)

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by Becca H on Apr 15, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously, I think our row communicated thru mime the for pretty much of the game. We couldn’t even hear the 2 guys in front of us that got thrown out at the end of the first.

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by Boggles on Apr 15, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

They were being too loud?

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by AMusingFool on Apr 15, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

drunken disorderly. Leaning, Standing during the play, shouting of some form I’m certain. But the frequent beer spills and multiple times trying to leave the row mid-play were why everybody texted their ticket rep to have them out. Worst part, one had an Ovie jersey on, the one was wearing a hipster Newsie hat. He might have had to go on principal.

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by Boggles on Apr 15, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

VC is pretty small relative to the capacity so it wouldn’t be too surprising that it is one of the more loud arenas.

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by sydtron on Apr 15, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

and, one of the Sabres beat writers last year also mentioned that the VC was extraordinarily loud.

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by sydtron on Apr 15, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, for sure. It’s a loud building, I love it – but I think Matt would say that about any building he played in, don’t you? ;)

Have to think that Montreal and Chicago are louder, although I believe both hold more people than VC.

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by Becca H on Apr 15, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nashville’s up there, too, according to lots of out-of-town media and whatnot (sketchy source, I know).

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by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I went to Caps @ Preds this fall. I thought it was great; fans were pretty into it considering it was like the 7th game of the season against an eastern conference opponent. Really like the live band at intermission concept. The out-of-town media might be swayed by how awesome downtown Nashville is.

by 7-Hole Glove Side on Apr 15, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I look forward to experiencing a Caps game in Montreal game next year. The past few seasons I’ve been hitting Rangers, Devils, Pitt, and Philly games (won’t be headed back there anytime soon). None of them compared with the Phone Booth, not even close. I thought for sure Pitt would bring it, but nope, pretty darn quiet all 5 times, Igloo & Consol. WC does not count

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by Boggles on Apr 15, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

You’re gonna have a great time. The Habs fans know how to bring the excitement to a game.

by TheBored on Apr 15, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

And then set things ablaze afterward!

by SethB on Apr 15, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I’m psyched. I’ve only recently hit the economic level of being able to entertain the idea, so I intend to solicit lots of advice on hotels etc. once the schedule for next season is announced.

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by Boggles on Apr 15, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

The way I described the environment in the last minutes of Game 7 against the Rangers two years ago was that, “sound had mass.” It hit you in the chest.

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by ThePeerless on Apr 15, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sound had mass"—I like that. More poetic and a much more evocative visual than the usual: “Verizon just exploded.”

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by capsyoungguns on Apr 15, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn’t there, so I dunno, but I’d venture to say it was louder last night when Semin scored than it was when Ovi/Knuble tied up Game 7 last year (only to have the goal snatched away from us).

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by iwearstripes on Apr 15, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Apples and oranges imo, game 7 was a sustained roar after Feds scored. This time was loud as hell when the OT winner went in, with peaks and valleys throughout the game.

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by Steve-R on Apr 15, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

On the opposite end of the spectrum, the crowd in Anaheim on Wednesday was probably the worst playoff crowd/atmosphere I have ever seen. Embarrassing.

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

In what way?

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by WordsOnIce on Apr 15, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

There was an extremely noticeable amount of empty seats, and the fans were not into it at all. I know Nashville more or less dominated the game, but there was no life in the building even before Weber scored the first goal. Just weird.

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

You could hear everything that was happening on the ice. To be fair they had little to cheer for.

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by Carl Putnam on Apr 15, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s what I mean; glad I wasn’t the only one to notice. Interested to see/hear the atmosphere tonight.

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was at the WCF game in ANA the year ANA won the Cup. ANA got dominated by DET, like 5-1, but the crowd was pretty decent, I thought. Maybe that was just me and my drunk friends. It was the game Pronger got suspended for smashing Holmstrom’s face into the glass.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, may have been an aberration. Who knows. Tonight’s game is obviously more important so I’ll be interested to see what happens.

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I’m interested to see if ANA responds or gets dominated again. Tonight will tell you how short this series is going to be. If ANA goes down 2-0 at home… I don’t know if they make it past 5.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was at game 2 of the Cup Finals that year and the crowd was certainly decent volume wise. Not blowing the roof off, but they were good. The issue the other night seemed to be a combination of the Ducks play mixed with fans likely underestimating the Preds.

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by Carl Putnam on Apr 15, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Carlyle almost has no choice but to start Emery after that “showing” Dan Ellis gave, and Emery’s still kind of hurt. If the Preds can pot one or two early, you’re right, we could be in for a short series, b/c it’s pretty clear Rinne’s not going to budge.

The interesting part about game one was that Jonathon Blum, Kevin Klein, and Mike Fisher took on the RPG line most times and the results speak for themselves. Fisher had three points in addition to holding down Getzlaf. If the Preds can do that without using Weber/Suter/Legwand on RPG, I’m hopeful.

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

If the Preds can control RPG without Shea/Suter then it’s a lock for NSH.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Game One’s too soon to tell, but it was a good sign. Jonathon Blum was not great in Milwaukee but he was fantastic on Wednesday, has been all year.

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

They already did that this year during the regular season. They didn’t use Weber/Suter against that line exclusively. As a matter of fact, CB correct me if I’m wrong on this, but didn’t Klein play against that line more than anyone else?

F&B, we tried warning you this was a bad matchup for the Ducks.

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by Carl Putnam on Apr 15, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Klein and Bouillon played the most minutes against them in Anaheim, but Trotz used 6/20 at home. Klein takes a ton of flak for just not being Weber or Suter, but he’s a lot better than he gets credit for.

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah you did, and I’ll own up to it when it’s all said and done.

Well CB was pimping the Shea v. RPG match up, so I assumed that was how it’d be.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s how it is when Trotz can dictate the matchups, I guarantee it was only out of necessity they saw Blum/Klein on Wednesday.

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, Perry is a super-douche. Nice to see Rinne not let that crap get to him.

by SethB on Apr 15, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dude – check this out.

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I saw that crap on highlights. I wanna see Weber demolish him in a bad way. I sure hope he is not the Hart winner, because that makes the whole league look bad.

by SethB on Apr 15, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wanna see Weber demolish him in a bad way.

I think that sentiment is shared by fans of the other 29 teams, especially the other 4 in the Pacific.

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by Carl Putnam on Apr 15, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s already been taken to task once, but I imagine he’ll get it again if that crap keeps up.

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess the best revenge would be to send him golfing.

by SethB on Apr 15, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t like Perry, either, but if I’m a Ducks fan, I love that. Piss off the other team. Get them mad. Make them take a penalty.

by RCheli on Apr 15, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Disgraceful. It didn’t work, either. Nashville’s one of the most disciplined teams in the league since the lockout, they’re not going to take out their frustration via penalty. As Shane O’Brien says:

Scoreboard.

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Disgraceful? Really?

by RCheli on Apr 15, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Spearing a goalie in the nuts afterthe period ends with none of his teammates in the vicinity?

I can safely term that disgraceful.

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with CB. Trying to get in a goalie’s head is one thing, and racking him in the balls with your stick is a whole different ballgame.

by SethB on Apr 15, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Look, I’m not saying that I love it. I’m just saying that you have to do everything you can. And Rinne’s well protected down there. I’m sure it just rattled him a bit.

Perry and his ilk are hated by every fan except for those whose team he plays for.

by RCheli on Apr 15, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eh, I don’t think I would approve of one of the Caps doing that to Lunqvist. Getting in his face, bumping him during play, sure thing. But that, that is just over the line.

by SethB on Apr 15, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

*cough*Dale Hunter*cough*

by RCheli on Apr 15, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

That is one of the worst things I have ever seen on the ice, next to the Bertuzzi and Brashear incidents.

by SethB on Apr 15, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right, but while his hit on Turgeon was the worst thing he ever did, he did a ton of Perry-esque shit throughout his career. The fact, like Perry, he could score, too, made him even more valuable.

by RCheli on Apr 15, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

But I doubt Perry gets 3k/1k.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, but Hunter never came close to 50 goals, either. And I’m not comparing the talent of the two — just the fact that they were both scorers with grit.

by RCheli on Apr 15, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I sure wish the Caps had someone like Perry.

Matt Hendricks is a honey badger.

by D'ohboy on Apr 15, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Look, if Matt Cooke was only half of Matt Cooke, he’d be an incredibly valuable member of any team.

by RCheli on Apr 15, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Depends on which half you kept.

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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Apr 15, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hyperbole. If Matt Cooke was only half Matt Cooke he’d be an incredibly valuable member of an AHL team. He wouldn’t sniff the NHL. Unless you mean only half the douche bag sociopath he is, but retaining his actual hockey skill. That I might buy.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s exactly the stuff that I would want to halve. He’s a good penalty killer, has some skill, and is a dangerous player.

If he was a good penalty killer, had some scoring skill, and was just an overly aggressive player, he’d be great.

by RCheli on Apr 15, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’d be an average 4th liner that could step up to 4. He’d be like Matt Bradley. His specific value that gets him that contract and the place on those teams is playing like a scumbag. Like it or lump it, there are a lot of NHL GMs that still value that stuff.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Come on. Cooke averages 30 points a season. Bradley has gotten more than 20 only twice in his career.

by RCheli on Apr 15, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cooke sucks. He’s a borderline 3/4th line player if he’s not out there injuring the other team. The game would miss nothing if he was banned for life.

He’s got better hands than Bradley and a … more flexible moral compass. That’s all.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

F&B — we were agreeing on so many things lately. Why must we disagree on this? Cooke doesn’t suck. He may be a borderline sociopath, but he’s a good hockey player.

by RCheli on Apr 15, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good compared to non-NHL talents. Mediocre compared to the NHL players. And consider he routinely puts more valuable players’ lives and careers in jeopardy… ship his ass to the gulag.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wish the Caps had Perry.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Apr 15, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Especially at his salary… $5.325m.

Matt Hendricks is a honey badger.

by D'ohboy on Apr 15, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Murray has done a ridiculous job of getting his top players on manageable contracts.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Apr 15, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Burke did that deal.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damnit, I knew that too. Lazy reporting. I go to the box, I feel shame.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Apr 15, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Especially at his salary… $5.325m.

If he’s going to stay a 40-50 goal/100 point level for several seasons, then, yeah, he’s a bargain. But if this year is an anomaly and he reverts back to his previous highs of 32/76, then he’s overpaid. I’m holding judgement on his greatness until I see him repeat those kind of numbers or get somewhere close to them. Jonathon Cheechoo scored 50 if I recall.

by b.orr4 on Apr 15, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Considering the market, even if he reverts, I wouldn’t call him overpaid. Semin, Horcoff, Kessel, Cammalleri, Elias, Smyth, Kane, Briere, Kovalchuk, Spezza, Gomez, Gaborik and Heatley all make more than Perry, and I’d take Perry over every one of them.

He’s right in the ballpark of Hossa and St. Louis (and others who are not as good as Perry). I’d say that’s a fair deal if he reverts back down to ~80 and doesn’t maintain this higher pace. Especially considering he brings more than his points.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Apr 15, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

reverts back to his previous highs of 32/76

Reverts back to 32/76 with 100+PIMs, kills penalties, fights, agitates, is a proven leader within the locker room and does it all against really tough competition with crappy zonestarts?

Yeah, he’s not even CLOSE to overpaid, even at 32/76.

Matt Hendricks is a honey badger.

by D'ohboy on Apr 15, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except that PIMs hurt your team. It’s not good to be in the box for 100+ minutes. What you should be focusing on is his penalty differential.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh. Perry takes his share of dumb penalties, but I think in his case he takes a lot because he’s legitimately a pain in the ass to play against.

Matt Hendricks is a honey badger.

by D'ohboy on Apr 15, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right, I’m just pointing out one of my pet peeves (as you well know), the idea that penalties are actually a good thing. The vast majority of them are bad, fightings are neutral. So subtract Perry’s fighting majors, then take the rest and I’d bet 10% is a generous allowance for “good penalties.” That means 80% of his non-fighting penalties hurt his team.

Where it gets murky is evaluating how those penalties end up paying off by drawing more PPs later on, which is why I suggested pure penalty differential.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can say this for Perry’s fights: he at least takes on guys who have significant value to their teams.

Over the last six years, he’s fought the following:
Pavel Datsyuk
Wayne Simmonds
David Backes
Alex Burrows
Chuck Kobasew
Brian Rafalski
Brent Burns

Rafalski and Burns were in the postseason, too.

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by Wheeler on Apr 15, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rafalski was one of the biggest punk moves I’ve ever witnessed. It wasn’t even a fight, it was a mugging. Game was over, well decided, Rafalski was on his first game back from a shoulder injury. Perry sees a scrum break out and bee-lines for Rafalski and immediately starts trying to beat on the injured shoulder. What a fucking gutless piece of crap.

Unlike Cooke though, he’s got so much skill that the game would be losing something if he was banished to the gulags.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

So what you’re saying is he won’t own up to his crap against guys who would beat him down?

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kinda hard to say that about a guy that fought Backes. Simmonds and Burns aren’t pansies either.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, and Backes is crazy tough, but it’s not like he’s consistently taking on those types. Rafalski and Datsyuk? Come on.

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know I agree.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you can YouTube right now, you’ll enjoy this.

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, what I’m saying is that he’s fairly skilled, but he also fights other skilled players. If he’s fighting fourth-line humps, he’s doing his team a disservice.

For what it’s worth, he’s fought some of those guys (Abdelkader, Jay McClement, etc.). But he’s fought other guys who have value to their team beyond pasting people to the boards.

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by Wheeler on Apr 15, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

iirc, Perry draws more than he takes.

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

He does. It was either Knee High or the post on AC discussing Perry’s Hart merits, and commented that he has a positive differential whereas Sedin is even.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Apr 15, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

the fact that a player with ~100 PIM draws more than he takes is incredible.

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right, which is why I directed D’oh to that stat.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish he was a Pred, too, because 50 goal scorers don’t grow on trees.

but wow, what a moron.

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, he’s a stupid scumbag for sure. But like every fan of every other team would say, I wish he were our stupid scumbag.

I have planned my grand attacks; I will stand behind their backs. With my brand new battle-axe, they will taste my wrath. They will hear me say as the pavement whirls, "I hate California girls."

by Steckel Me Elmo on Apr 15, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Scumbag? Maybe. Stupid. . . not sure I agree.

Matt Hendricks is a honey badger.

by D'ohboy on Apr 15, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

He clearly knows how to agitate, so he’s not stupid in that sense, but anyone who’s okay with spearing a goalie in the ’nads is a touch troubled.

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I see it more as, “I need to do whatever it takes to win and I straight don’t give a fuck.”

Matt Hendricks is a honey badger.

by D'ohboy on Apr 15, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, fair enough, but my question would be this: what about that gives you a chance to win? The only thing that particular move does is tick off the entire opposition.

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

If it rattled Rinne, or hurts his balls, it helps. Obviously it didn’t look like either happened, but there’s always a chance. Plus, the guy just loves to hurt people.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I guess, but it really backfired because now he’s got more of a target on him than he did originally. The entire team talked about protecting Rinne before the series started and as Klein demonstrated, they’re willing to take a penalty in order to do so.

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

The focus was going to be there. Nothing changed.

Klein took that PIM because the game was out of reach. In a closer game, Perry is praying Klein takes that PIM again.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

There’s no doubt he’s an elite agitator even without all the skill.

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

When the Caps were getting shut down by Halak last year, I would have given just about anything for a player with the stones/lack of scruples to spear Halak in the stones. “Let ‘em know you’re there.”

Of course, I also thought Claude Lemieux was a great hockey player.

Matt Hendricks is a honey badger.

by D'ohboy on Apr 15, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Do you understand your value to the organization, Resnick? You’re a sadist. Your lack of compunction comes in handy.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about that crazy Finn (Nieminen was it?) that straight up ran over Kipper late in a playoff game when CGY was en route to the Cup.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup. Ville Nieminen. Loony.

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by D'ohboy on Apr 15, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stupid was not meant to be a statement of fact.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Apr 15, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I liked when Klein punched him in the face.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Perry is gonna spear your goalie

And then relax with his banjo.

by SethB on Apr 15, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

hahahaha. That’s spot on.

by _Skullduggery_ on Apr 15, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, I can’t believe how much Weber held back there. Guess you can’t risk the 7+ minute PP (and losing your best skater for it) if he turtles.

by grapejoos on Apr 15, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure Weber saw what happened initially, though, just that Perry was over there.

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

When the lights dimmed for the intro the entire place exploded like a crowd at a rock concert when the band makes its way onto the stage. The last time I heard it that loud before the game started was Penguins game seven two years ago.

It started to dull during OT as the crowd lost its alcohol fuel with concessions cut off and kids started to fall asleep. Once Semin scored everyone went nuts.

by Kolzilla on Apr 15, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought the crowd was deafening silent in the 3rd period between the Rangers goal and the Caps goal. Very disappointing

by Moonage Daydream on Apr 15, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hard to scream when your sphincter is puckered tighter than a duck’s ass.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Apr 15, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I stayed really quiet because I was glued to the ice and just couldn’t budge. I didn’ t eat or drink. I barely moved the entire game because I was just so anxious.

by redpezrocket on Apr 15, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

This.

I realized mid third period that I had stopped responding to Horn Guy. I was too concentrated on the game to even notice it.

by TheBored on Apr 15, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I sat 3 rows behind him in 415 on Wed (great section btw), but like you late in the game I wasn’t even noticing him.

"I remembered when he said that and I kind of looked at him during the warm up and told myself that I got to shut these guys out tonight." - Michal Neuvirth, 02.06.11.

by bagace on Apr 15, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

It sure seemed quiet on TV in the third.

by Ginga on Apr 15, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just in comparison to the first period and overtime. There were fewer scoring chances and fewer things to get excited about. And I agree with dcsportsfan1 that everyone was very nervous. Lots of short tempers in my section, security got called to haul two guys out who were screaming at each other in 121, that usually never happens in my section. A fight almost broke out behind me too between some guys who were standing and some guys who were irritated by it.

by Karl W on Apr 15, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Similar stuff happened around me, tempers quickly rose when people were walking around with the puck in play. I can certainly understand the displeasure, but it was quick!

by TheBored on Apr 15, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Been laughing a fair amount this morning, but my favorite has to be Peerless:

Well, gee, Cheerless…aren’t YOU living up to your name this morning?

"Just tellin’ it like it is, cuz. You know how Caps fans are… we only see the poop, not the puppy."

I’m almost tempted to use it as my sig except I’m feeling positive today.

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by capsyoungguns on Apr 15, 2011 9:45 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Oh my god…that’s genius.

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by WordsOnIce on Apr 15, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hershey has highlights/lowlights from last night’s loss up on the youtube channel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9XtezttDm4

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 15, 2011 9:45 AM EDT reply actions  

TIL there is a caps bar in NYC called stillwater bar and grill on E- 4th

by ididntdoit on Apr 15, 2011 10:02 AM EDT reply actions  

rink meetup tonight at the game?

Who’s going tonight? Im working on collecting faces to place to names for all you fine and loquacious folk out there.

I’ll be in section 120 seeing if I can start a chant without being booed for not being goat or horn guy. (It worked last game!) Anyone wanna schmooze during the first intermission?

Hope this isn’t too OT…

(> ^ .(> O .O)>

by Sentient Cheese on Apr 15, 2011 10:05 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Neuvy was all over NHL Network last night

First, as Bob:
Nbob

Then as…Mojo??
NMojo

(from RMNB’s twitter)

"I remembered when he said that and I kind of looked at him during the warm up and told myself that I got to shut these guys out tonight." - Michal Neuvirth, 02.06.11.

by bagace on Apr 15, 2011 10:08 AM EDT reply actions   4 recs

Maybe his backup career is as the EU.

by redpezrocket on Apr 15, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Except Bob is Russian. Hmm. Not the UN either.

by redpezrocket on Apr 15, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whyno:

Boudreau said Dennis Wideman could possibly be back this series if it goes long enough. Wow. #Caps

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 10:14 AM EDT reply actions  

I second this.

Don’t try to figure Sasha out. Just ride the wave.

by gfcaps fan on Apr 15, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like the way you think.

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by Alz in the family on Apr 15, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

REC’D

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or sweep-sweep, then see him against Tampa Bay

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by ThePeerless on Apr 15, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Or just end it in four…

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by twistedlogic on Apr 15, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m with you on that, but wouldn’t mind having game 5 at home and us watching the series clincher . . .

by Karl W on Apr 15, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ditto. I can have a hell of a nice meal on the money I’d save not having a Game Five.

by b.orr4 on Apr 15, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll rec that.

Don’t try to figure Sasha out. Just ride the wave.

by gfcaps fan on Apr 15, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I already did :)

The shorter the series the better as long as the Caps win the 4 games!

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 15, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

My heart says no. (My actual heart that is!)

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by capsyoungguns on Apr 15, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

A tad optimistic but still, jee-sus. So:

Carlzner
Green-Schultz
Hannan-Wideman

by Kolzilla on Apr 15, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I might flop the bottom pairs. Wideman/Schultz as the third pair to manage Wideman’s minutes.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was my reaction to those lines as well. I’d prefer to see Hannan out there more than Schultz.

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by timmyv38 on Apr 15, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with FandB’s post about managing Wideman’s minutes initially, but once Wideman is back in full I’d like to see them roll the defensive lines and manage EVERYONE’s minutes. Really take advantage of the incredible defensive depth this team has and keep all 6 well rested for a deep run. Those three lines are very similar to each other and I don’t think there’s much of a drop off no matter which is on the ice at any given time.

by HockeyGoalie29 on Apr 15, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I fully support F&B’s pairings should Wideman return. Hannan is playing much better than the Sarge.

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by Carl Putnam on Apr 15, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Carlznerson
Green/Hannan
Wideman/Schultz

A Top 6 composed of guys who could all be legit Top 4 on a lot of teams. I like.

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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 15, 2011 10:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

God that’s awesome, but I really hate taking Erskine out of the lineup. He’s playing the best hockey of his career and i love me some snarl. Maybe it becomes matchup-specific, with Schultz/Erskine splitting?

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by breed16 on Apr 15, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

See D’oh’s comment regarding health below. Assuming they kept winning, he’d get his chances.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Even so, with all 7 healthy (or since it’s the playoffs, “playable”) I’d give Erskine a sweater over Schultz once in a while.

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by breed16 on Apr 15, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not me, but that’s maybe just me.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sure it’s not just you. Schultz is somehow effective even when he looks like a traffic cone. So it would depend on what BB thinks is needed any given game. The quiet tree in the forest that contributes to the healthy ecosystem, or the bulldozer that makes way for new shit?

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by breed16 on Apr 15, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last year I’d get all angry in response to this. This year, I agree with you 100%.

by Ginga on Apr 15, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

That, my friend, is a D corps that you can ride deeeeeep into the playoffs.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

…That’s what she said.

I have planned my grand attacks; I will stand behind their backs. With my brand new battle-axe, they will taste my wrath. They will hear me say as the pavement whirls, "I hate California girls."

by Steckel Me Elmo on Apr 15, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

No way all those guys stay healthy for the entirety of the playoffs.

Matt Hendricks is a honey badger.

by D'ohboy on Apr 15, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Um, I don’t know what you’re talking about…this team never has injury issues. Yeesh.

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by Becca H on Apr 15, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

If not, we’ll just break out our secret Poti weapon…

by HockeyGoalie29 on Apr 15, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least early on in his recovery, I’d prefer to see the team run with 7 defensemen. Wideman on the PP and out there for a few shifts per period is more valuable, IMO, than Chimera or Hendricks or Bradley in the playoffs, when OT could last forever.

If they use 6 D, I’d like to see Brooks Laich getting a lot of practice time at D. I don’t trust these guys to be able to jump back in and play a full game.

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by Gould Old Days on Apr 15, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I buy that. Although I’m tempted to relegate Green to PP-only duty until he can remember what he’s doing out there.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Carlznerson, Oisk and Hannan keep playing well that’s the better option to use Green till Wideman is back AND playing 100%. I think he was more to blame on that first goal than Johnny Ersk.

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by sydtron on Apr 15, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. I also bet Wideman is in better shape than Green when he returns (although by then Green may have played his way back into shape).

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have the opposite sense. Green was doing at least aerobic exercise for weeks before his return. Hannan’s been on his back in a bed. Seems to me that Hannan’s recovery to game shape should take longer once he’s physically cleared to play.

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by Gould Old Days on Apr 15, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny how many times you managed to type Hannan.

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by zephyr on Apr 15, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

derp

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Apr 15, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean Wideman.

I agree objectively with what you said, but Green has a history of letting himself go and was out for quite a while with two concussions(!). That’s gotta take something out of him, sitting in bed drinking milk shakes for two months.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only if those milkshakes are from Ted’s Bulletin.

Matt Hendricks is a honey badger.

by D'ohboy on Apr 15, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

Green was skating for awhile and practiced with the team. Wideman was in a hospital for approx. 2 weeks and for a portion of that time wasn’t moving around a lot.

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 15, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

See above, a lot of my impression has to do with Green’s history.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks, G.O.D. and I were typing at the same time, although I avoided typing Hannan :)

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 15, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Green looked OK (not great, but OK), and that Green-Erskine is a terrible pairing.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Apr 15, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Green looked like he was out of gas midway through the second, though he did seem to find some energy in OT. I hated his positioning on the GA and was wondering exactly where he was going most of the time. He didn’t get hurt until after the system change…

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. But give him credit — he adjusted by simplifying and not taking unnecessary chances. In other words, I think he was pretty good at realizing that he wasn’t 100% and in making sure he didn’t compound it with stupid risks.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Apr 15, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t that what you were applauding him for doing all year?

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really. I don’t want his offense poti-ized. I want to see him improve his defense while still contributing outstanding offense. That what I thought he did this year, at least at times.

Game 1, he was about 75% his normal self on defense and 25% on offense. Which is a hell of a lot better than being 50% on both.

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by Gould Old Days on Apr 15, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, I can buy that. It’ll be real interesting to see how rapidly he can get back to form, if at all. At the very least he should be a little better tonight than he was in game 1. If he can just keep doing that he should be almost back to his old self in time for us to be eliminated.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

definitely bad pairing, but good in concept. I really liked Ersk’s game but I’m going to hate it tonight because it’s an absolute lock that Avery gets him to drop his gloves or worse take an ill timed penalty.

Many a night from yonder ivied casement, ere I went to rest,
Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.

by sydtron on Apr 15, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

As much as I’d like to see it there’s no way Avery fights Erskine. Goads him into a bad penalty maybe but no way he throws down with Ersk.

his fight card isn’t filled with notable pugilists other than Hendricks.

2010-2011 Regular Season

Arron Asham
Jordin Tootoo
Mattias Ohlund
Gregory Campbell
Alexandre Picard
Micheal Haley
David Clarkson
Tyler Kennedy
Mark Stuart
Matt Hendricks
Ladislav Smid
Matt Carle

oh and of course his skirmish with Sauer a few weeks back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTkecL2LelA

by Beakers Lab on Apr 15, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

He won’t fight him, but Ersk will drop his gloves and get sent off for 5 nonetheless.

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Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.

by sydtron on Apr 15, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beauty.

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by stemmer on Apr 15, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

The matchup: In a move borrowed from pro wrestling, the Coyotes have apparently secured a rematch with their rival by agreeing to a loser-leaves-town stipulation.

Many a night from yonder ivied casement, ere I went to rest,
Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.

by sydtron on Apr 15, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

So glad to see Dee Dub out there skating. Lets hope this series isn’t long enough to see him on the ice quite yet though!

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by nogoodtrying on Apr 15, 2011 10:24 AM EDT reply actions  

A couple notes from yesterday’s practice (my first time at Kettler!)

-Erskine scored two beautiful goals on Varly from the tops of the circles (One 5-hole, one high blocker side). Who knew he could do such things? I know the coaches wouldn’t let him do that in a game, because if he’s that far deep he can’t back up fast enough, but it showed he has some secret talents.

D.J. King is a very, very scary man. He checked Mike Green into the boards right in front of my face and they both had big grins on their face knowing that if King was really trying, Greener would be a pancake.

-Bob Woods and Dean Eveason can actually still play hockey. I’m sure those of you who have been to practice before know this, but I was blown away by the talent they still have.

-Carlson gets really excited for goals in practice, even when the goalie was not looking/ doing something else.

by discuit on Apr 15, 2011 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Booo… that strikeout was not intentional.

by discuit on Apr 15, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

All those guys are (within the context of the general population) terrific athletes. Not surprised that in a half-speed environment, they can tear it up.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shit, I’d want Sloan on my pickup team.

by DrinkingPartner on Apr 15, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sloan would put up 50 a game on your p/u team.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

From the defensive blue line!

by DrinkingPartner on Apr 15, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sloan with one arm would put up 50 . . .

by Karl W on Apr 15, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Twice in my life I’ve skated a little shinny with major-junior guys (uncle played for the Wheat Kings and still is friendly with the club). I was never the greatest skater even among regular joes, but I wasn’t the worst. Those guys made me feel like I was standing still and the skill with the puck was unbelievable.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.birdwatchersanonymous.com/2010/4/24/1442100/maxim-afinogenov-drops-in-for-some

any of that talk always reminds me of Afinogenov dropping by some place for some pick up hockey.

Many a night from yonder ivied casement, ere I went to rest,
Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.

by sydtron on Apr 15, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

“One of the guys asked me, ‘What do you think would happen if I give him a shoulder?’ I said, ’The guy plays in the same league with (well known NHL tough guy) Chris Pronger. I think he can take a shoulder from you.”’

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Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.

by sydtron on Apr 15, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahahaha

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oleg Saprykin used to play drop-in back in Seattle. Dude was straight-up silly good, and he was a marginal NHL-er. Damn good WHL player though.

Matt Hendricks is a honey badger.

by D'ohboy on Apr 15, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

He had so much speed. I wonder why he never made it in the NHL. Maybe his hands could have better, but I thought he had the skill set.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

His problems were entirely between his ears. Mad skill.

Matt Hendricks is a honey badger.

by D'ohboy on Apr 15, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s the wheels and the edge control on those guys…I’d give my left nut to skate pickup with elite skaters at the NHL level, just for the experience. I doubt I could even get close enough to, say, Mike Green in order to properly slash him if I tried and he didn’t want it to happen.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Serious Conspiracy Theory Here

Did anyone else see this? I was reading one of the Rangers Banter Links up top and saw this in the comments. I’ll look up which one it was. Pretty funny though. I thought I had read some strange ones before…


I watched the game on DVR today and I noticed that every time a Caps player shoots the puck at Lundquist, there is a series of very bright flashes that turn the whole TV screen white for a split second. You will especially notice it when you go frame by frame on the DVR. And on Semin’s winning goal, there were two very very bright flashes that could have temporarily messed with Henrik’s vision. I know that there are photographic flashes at all professional sporting events but these seemed excessive. Any chance the Caps and their ownership are creating the bright flashes to throw off Lundquist? Consequently, there are no bright flashes when the Rangers shoot the puck at the net—just normal photographic flashbulbs. Conspiracy?

by RVA Andy on Apr 15, 2011 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Especially funny when you think back to last season, when Theo had a green laser pointer in his eyes during a game in MSG

by mch on Apr 15, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

You will especially notice it when you go frame by frame on the DVR.

Seek help.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

……..wow. That’s…wow.

I know that there are photographic flashes at all professional sporting events

That’s pretty much the only factual part :P And I might be mistaken but flashbulbs seem to look brighter on TV than in person, don’t they? I notice them when I’m at the game but they don’t seem THAT conspicuous.

…and they go off when people take shots at the Caps net, too.

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by Becca H on Apr 15, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

there were two very very bright flashes that could have temporarily messed with Henrik’s vision.

As a photographer that has used dozens of speed-lights and flashes I would be SHOCKED if they impaired the goalie IN ANY WAY.

If they did, I doubt they wouldn’t allow their use.

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by NGreenberg on Apr 15, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

typing fail: I doubt they would allow their use.

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by NGreenberg on Apr 15, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn’t there an overhead flash of some kind that goes off to assist professional hotographers?

I seem to remember Gary Howatt of the Islanders, who is an epileptic, asking that the auto-flashes be turned off as it could cause him to go into a fit.

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by STLSpidey on Apr 15, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

The pros get to set up remotely triggered strobes, not all of have them since there is limited space/power but usually the SI guys or any “name” photographers will have a set up. From what I’ve heard it’s usually the choice of the venue who actually gets to place strobes.

by Gunjin on Apr 15, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

My goodness, the things one learns here.

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by stemmer on Apr 15, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

They even have remotely triggered cameras up in the rafters, that’s how they get the top down shots, there isn’t actually a person sitting up there the whole game. And now I am done straying off topic.

by Gunjin on Apr 15, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I personally think this is a useful conversation as it increases my knowledge on the media coverage of the game, but I’ll defer to the powers that be.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m good with it. Carry on, this is really interesting.

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by Becca H on Apr 15, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, it’s fascinating. I remember the first time I wondered about it was when they showed the Varly save on Crosby at the goal line. I kept wondering where that flash was coming from.

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by gfcaps fan on Apr 15, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think this is on the topic — at least, I’m curious about those overhead shots. Are they triggered manually?

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by CapitalCentre on Apr 15, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gunjin seems to know more than me, but I believe the answer is yes. Just like a flash is triggered when you or I take a photo with our cameras.

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by STLSpidey on Apr 15, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty much, you attach a radio receiver to the camera in the rafters, and you trigger it with what basically amounts to a remote control from where you are down courtside/rinkside. To trigger the strobes you have a radio transmitter that is attached to the hot shoe of your camera and the strobes in the rafters all receive a signal that causes them to fire. You can also set it up so that when you shoot off your courtside camera it fires the overhead camera at the same time so you get multiple angles of the same shot.

by Gunjin on Apr 15, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

See, this is awsome. Thanks.

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by CapitalCentre on Apr 15, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

knowledge is yummy. Thanks for sharing!

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by Boggles on Apr 15, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Usually they are triggered by one of the following: RF signal, infrared, cable, or even off the strobe light of the “master” flash. I’m not familiar with the model being used here, but because of the distance and mobility required, I would assume it’s an RF trigger.

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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Apr 15, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

But did you watch your DVR….frame by frame??

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by twistedlogic on Apr 15, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are flashes all the time in big games… it’s called people taking photographs. Also they light up the TV camera lens way more than they would distract a player.

by discuit on Apr 15, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. This guy must think his DVR is magical. Of course if he watched replays he would see them there too.

by RVA Andy on Apr 15, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damn, our complicated and (seemingly) surreptitious system of small flash cameras and shiny mirrors has been detected. Hopefully no pat-downs for laser pointers at VC tonight.

I’m impressed this person left the tin foil off his/her fingers to enable typing.

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by stemmer on Apr 15, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Funny.

I do recall a game when the sun glare was an issue; I think it was against Detroit late in the season a few years ago where the sun was shining through from the windows through a section entrance and they stopped play until a curtain could be pulled to cover the entrance or something to that effect.

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 15, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

From the Acela Club maybe?

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by gfcaps fan on Apr 15, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, it was from the main concourse, on the end where there are windows where you can look out onto the street…one of the goalies had the sunlight streaming in directly in his line of vision… it was justified that they waited a few minutes to start that game.

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 15, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look, when we hired Steckel after the season ended to single-handedly operate all the extra cameras, I didn’t think anyone would notice. But clearly, this committed citizen hero thwarted our dastardly plan.

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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Apr 15, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

So that’s why the ice is crap, Ted invested all his money into a giant light beam that flashes into the opposing goalie’s eyes every time the Caps shoot.

by 7-Hole Glove Side on Apr 15, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Noticed this at Cuse/G'town game's played at VC

And not to get OT, but a group of us had noticed during SU’s free throws, that the lighting ring that goes around the arena is lit up with ads, random lights, etc.

This was not the case during the hoyas free throws. And it was not an isolated incident.

I don’t buy into conspiracy theories, but sometimes I do.

by Fro_ on Apr 15, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is the commenters last name Zapruder?

“Watch Lundquist head go back and to the left, back and to the left…If Semin’s shot came from the slot, why would Henrik’s head snap back and to the left….there must have been a second shooter.”

Pretty good theory, except for the fact that neither Lundquist, Tortorella or any other Ranger mentioned it at all.

Also, there are no photographic flashes at sporting events, at least not from the professional photogs. The “flashes” this guy is seeing have to do with the frame speed at which the game is being broadcast. You do notice it when there are slow motion replays sometimes. It’s certainly not in the building.

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by dcsportsfan1 on Apr 15, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don’t want to be rude, but you are wrong dcsportsfan1, pretty much every arena has strobes set up that are fired by a radio transmitter from a professional photographers camera, it’s the only way to “freeze” the action with the light levels that are available on the playing surface. This link has some decent info on how it’s all set up:
http://www.sportsshooter.com/news/81

by Gunjin on Apr 15, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s precisely what I was referencing above. Thanks for validating.

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by STLSpidey on Apr 15, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

those things are awesome but two things to note: they’re everywhere, they’re used during any pivotal play and if the King is looking at the rafters he deserves to get the flash blind from it.

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by sydtron on Apr 15, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, interesting info. But these are not attached to the cameras at ice level, which would be the most likely ones to distract a player on the ice.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Apr 15, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Directed energy, FTW.

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by D'ohboy on Apr 15, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rods from God?

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

You also have to think about the direction the flash is moving at / point towards. A camera’s flash point a little too high would be picked up and cause that white out effect for a video camera.

But for goalies I really don’t see how a flash could effect them coming from rink side, which would be closer than the rafter flashes, since cameramen can only be so far away for a shot they don’t typically sit behind one net taking photos of the net at the other end of the rink. So when you think that most, if not all, flashes are coming from angles to the goalie and their eyes sit back in the mask it severely lessens the angle a flash would of to come from for a camera flash to actually make it into a goalie’s eyes and affect him.

I’m just going by logic here, inorite, but even with a very powerful flash the outside factors of placement and angles involved would negate any affect most of the time.

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by breaklance on Apr 15, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyway near Union Station and planning to visit sometime from 12-1:30? I think I’m going to wander over / actually take a lunch hour today.

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 15, 2011 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Union Station/Zamboni/Langway promotion

Quick report:

Not much of a crowd; mostly just non-hockey people walking by grabbing the scratch-off card and the ice cream sandwich. Saw someone get a Neuvirth (well it was a #30 red Caps jersey) jersey signed by Langway; someone else got a hockey card signed, some people taking pics with him and/or the Zamboni and some others milling around in Caps gear (the non-employees)..

Here’s one camera pic from the event:

Most of the cards are % off at nhl.com, but in the less than 10 minutes I was there, someone won a playstation so there were real prizes. Funny thing is they have to call in to receive the prize and the family was from England so they were getting clarification on what to do.

If someone has something they want signed by Langway, he’s always approachable from what I’ve seen at events, but this is a good opportunity.

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by sk84fun_dc on Apr 15, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems to me that if you wanted to get hockey fans’ attention, you’d be closer to the arena, closer to game time. I mean, Washington may be a hockey town (roll with me here), but you’re going to get people heading in and out of town and government types by Union Station.

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by gfcaps fan on Apr 15, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it was a good location…a place with a lot of foot traffic at that time of day…they aren’t trying to simply attract hockey fans but bring the playoffs and NHL/Versus/NBC to the attention of others.

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 15, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I had known I would have offered to take a picture :)

They definitely filmed you.

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 15, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh noes! did my hair look as awesome as lagnway’s moustache?

were you standing near the archway or the zamboni? what were you wearing? ;-)

by Neuvychick on Apr 15, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha ha, just observing the activities while eating my ice cream :)

I just happened to notice the swarm of activity when the 2 camera guys noticed you were having a jersey signed.

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 15, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh dear. i felt like a big enough tool after i got interviewed by the Port at a practice at kettler. national network tool!

i only thought about picture when i was halfway back. i don’t have an smrt-phone so it never occurs to me!

i work on first street — how near to union station are you?

by Neuvychick on Apr 15, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

A loooong walk…I needed a break from the office so this conveniently provided one

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 15, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

gorgeous day for one, too! that hasn’t helped my concentration at all with game 2 looming!

by Neuvychick on Apr 15, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Per Twitter

Avery Gilroy in, Zuccarello, Eminger out.

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by wipps on Apr 15, 2011 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Avery for Zuccarello, I guess?

Sweet.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, managed to avoid reading “Avery” in the first word of your post somehow.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not surprising Torts would go to Avery over Zuccarello, since he had a pretty poor game 1 and got smashed by Erskine as pointed out above. Caps need to be careful not to take the bait with Avery out there.

by grapejoos on Apr 15, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, shit. That’s gonna change the ’Vegas odds.

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by hotdog88gt on Apr 15, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the Rangers just got worse, no?

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by Gould Old Days on Apr 15, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh..lateral move at worst, Zuke was barely used, mostly ineffective, and took a stupid penalty. Avery will bring about the same

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by George E. Ays on Apr 15, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree on the forwards. I think the D is the issue.

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by Gould Old Days on Apr 15, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gilroy played last game, no?

So no change in the D?

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reading fail, had it backwards — thought Eminger was coming in for Gilroy.

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by Gould Old Days on Apr 15, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t sweat it, you had it right. Avery is a downgrade from Zuccarello (sp?).

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

And it’s pretty hard to knock Gilroy right now.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Avery will take TWO stupid penalties.

I hope.

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by fat_daddyo on Apr 15, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Caps, I beg you, please, PLEASE do not take the bait this evening. please.

by Neuvychick on Apr 15, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rod Langway about to be interviewed on ESPN 980, for any who are interested….

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by cuqui on Apr 15, 2011 12:20 PM EDT reply actions  

New clip midday (sorry if up higher) - Article on Matt Hendricks for Sunday’s Post. It’s about him, but also about the nature of fighting in the NHL.

Money quotes:

“Once the fight starts, I seem to go blank," [Hendricks] says. "Sometimes, I need to actually watch the fight just to remember what happened. I think it’s almost like I’m blacking out and just doing what you do."
Kim Hendricks, Matt’s wife, says her husband’s methodical preparations are an extension of his personality. "He’ll come home before a game and go to the computer and study the other guys. He doesn’t go out there just to beat someone up. He waits for the right guy and just the right point in the game."

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by STLSpidey on Apr 15, 2011 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I also liked her quote about how she’s used to his fighting but that people in public stare. I’ve always wondered about people’s reaction when they see someone like Hendy or Erskine after a fight. Caps fans would recognize them, but non fans probably have to wonder what they did. Even with someone like Knuble, who never fights, but is seriously dinged up after so many years in the league, I wonder what people who don’t know who he is think when they see the scars.

by redpezrocket on Apr 15, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bradley’s wife must be interrogated by the police daily the way he looks. I sort of wonder about his kid, or Oisk’s kids, seeing that. It must be difficult to explain how getting punched in the face is part of their job to a young(er) kid. Doesn’t Hendricks have a kid too?

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by sydtron on Apr 15, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by apk3000 on Apr 15, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

I think he has a young kid. I read the article about Alzner going to the elementary school, and being asked whether he fights. He said something along the lines of “I don’t recommend it, but I will if I have to,” which probably made the teacher cringe a little.

I can’t explain the dichotomy between fighting in hockey to solve conflict (allowed) and fighting in real life to solve conflict (not a good idea and is also called assault).

I mean, is it because in hockey it’s somewhat controllable, there are rules, and players have to agree? It’s like challenging someone to a duel versus just walking away really quickly and then pulling a gun. I mean, it definitely falls into contradicting “practice what you preach” and I have no idea how they explain to their kids why they do what they do.

if anything, though, I kind of felt bad when I read the Hendricks profile. I certainly I don’t think there’s ever a time in which he needs to fight. The only thing that makes it more of a “gentleman’s duel” instead of an all out brawl (most of the time) is that there are rules and etiquette. It’s part of the game. Teams use it as a strategy.

by redpezrocket on Apr 15, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Think of them as the in-game equivalent of the burrito toss.

Hahahaha..that’s actually a really good way of putting it. FTR, I can’t even put Hendy in an “enforcer” category. He’s a tough guy, and he’s definitely one of the fighters on the team, but he brings so much talent to the team that fighting doesn’t define him as a player. I’m not a fan of guys who are on the roster simply because they can fight; if fights come about organically, I can accept it, but there’s no sense in having a guy whose only real purpose is to fight. Then his paycheck is based on bloodying the other guy and not about playing hockey.

by redpezrocket on Apr 15, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is a fantastic comment. Burrito toss. Couldn’t agree more.

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by Gould Old Days on Apr 15, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t explain the dichotomy between fighting in hockey to solve conflict (allowed) and fighting in real life to solve conflict (not a good idea and is also called assault).

There’s a cut-off in fighting in real life when it’s ok. I was just having this discussion last night about how when I was 21-24 or so, I’d throw down for just about any reason. I even lamented that I wish I had a chance that my friend did to throw down because some guy was winging gay slurs at a gay guy. Now, even if slurs were getting thrown I can’t reasonably get in a fight — that cutoff is like 25-26ish, when you have enough maturity/enough going on in your life that you can face jail time and that’s dissuasion enough.

All in all I’m a big fan of fighting, some of my best friends in school I had were people I had fought. At the same time, that was then and this is now. Things are so much different that stuff like that just doesn’t fly.

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by sydtron on Apr 15, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wonder if she ever goes by Kimmy (or Kimi) Hendricks. I would.

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by J.P. on Apr 15, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Per Helene Elliott, Stoll has a phone hearing at 2pm ET for the White hit. I’ll be interested to see how he fares in the system during the playoffs, given this year’s emphasis on head shots. 1 game?

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by alex_k on Apr 15, 2011 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

It depends…I haven’t seen this information, but is White hurt? That could swing the vote. Also, it being the playoffs, I’m sure the league wants to be careful about its rulings, but this was a pretty bad hit. I cringed at one of the camera angles that showed White’s face as Stoll pushed him into the boards. He was in a lot of pain.

by redpezrocket on Apr 15, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

1 game

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by hotdog88gt on Apr 15, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everybody see that Datsyuk beat Ovie to win the Kharlamov Trophy this year, ending 8’s run of five straight?

More interesting is the fact that Jizz voted for Datsyuk. Seriously. LINK

“I simply like the way he plays,” Alexander Semin of the Washington Capitals said, to explain his decision to pick Datsyuk

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by LucyImHome on Apr 15, 2011 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I see what you did there.

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by D'ohboy on Apr 15, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha well played

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by sami426 on Apr 15, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet Ovi told Semin that if he had a Twitter account, he’d unfollow him. :)

by redpezrocket on Apr 15, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Pavel-Datsyuk-tops-Ovechkin-for-best-Russian-pla?urn=nhl-wp2661

Seems like it was a one vote difference, so Semin voting for OV may have ended it in a tie. Hopefully that doesn’t create a rift between those two.

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by jaytown99 on Apr 15, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d doubt AO cares too much, but that is weak sauce on Semin’s part.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well per vtcapsfan99’s pull below, Ovie didn’t vote for Semin. So, nbd.

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by breed16 on Apr 15, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like they each voted for each other in second. Jerks.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now we’ll never get the hometown discount!

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ovie's holding out for a different award

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by LucyImHome on Apr 15, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

you can win that without winning the real one :(

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by sydtron on Apr 15, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone from Yahoo had OV winning the Conn Smythe and the Canucks winning the cup.

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by jaytown99 on Apr 15, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’d be crazy for a forward to win it and lose nowadays. Goalies still can, easily, but a forward?

(basing that on Miller completely deserving the Olympic MVP despite getting the silver)

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by sydtron on Apr 15, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll roll the dice that if he wins the CS it means the Caps won the real one

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by LucyImHome on Apr 15, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both Ovie and Semin voted for each other in second place. First place vote is worth 3 points, second place is 2 points, third place is 1 point. Semin actually has a better history of voting for Ovie:
 
2010
Ovie voted: 1.Bryzgalov, 2.Semin, 3.Kovalchuk.
Don’t know how Semin voted.
2009
Ovechkin voted for: (1)Nabokov; (2)Malkin; (3)Kovalchuk
Semin voted: (1)Ovechkin; (2)Datsyuk; (3)Kovalchuk

2008
Semin: 1. Ovechkin 2. Kovalev 3. Datsyuk
Ovechkin: 1. Nabokov 2. Malkin 3. Kovalchuk

by vtcapsfan99 on Apr 15, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any chance we can see Datsyuk’s votes?

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by jaytown99 on Apr 15, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

2011
1. Kovalchuk
2. Bryzgalov
3. Anisimov

“Why Kovalchuk? One of the best forwards in the league. Scores victory goals. Contributes greatly to the success of the club. The season started hard. A new team, the defensive. And he is – a player attacking the plan. By Ilya was a lot of questions. But Kovalchuk, overcame all the problems and become even better than before.”

2010
Don’t know
2009
Datsyuk voted 1.Malkin
2.Kovalchuk
3.Semin
2008
1. Ovechkin
2. Malkin
3. Radulov

by vtcapsfan99 on Apr 15, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

What does Semin have against Malkin?

by RCheli on Apr 15, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Malkin looks like a lumbering bear on skates? Nothing pretty about his game. dirty SOB.

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by RedBirdie on Apr 15, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, Bryzgalov voted for himself. Wonder if OV or Datsyuk did that?

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by jaytown99 on Apr 15, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d hoped he would win it, when I began to suspect there was an upset this year.

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by CapitalCentre on Apr 15, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bryzgalov came in 4th place with 30 points.

by vtcapsfan99 on Apr 15, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think voting for yourself just isn’t done. I have the full 2008 and 2009 votes and no one voted for themselves. For 2010, I only know two guys’ votes (Ovie and Nabokov) beyond the total numbers for the #1 place vote, and neither of them voted for themselves. Nabokov voted straight goalie ticket in 2010: 1. Varlamov, 2.Bryzgalov, 3. Khabibulin

by vtcapsfan99 on Apr 15, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

In Soviet Russia/Phoenix, you votes you?

Boss: "How's that task coming?" Alz: "Eh, it's trending Sasha." Boss: "What?" Alz: "..."

by Alz Well That Ends Well on Apr 15, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Patrick Kane was Russian, Semin would have voted for him.

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Apr 15, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now we know why AO slammed Sasha the other night.

"And as it’s my personal opinion, I’d appreciate not being told it’s stupid, thanks." - BeccaH

by hotdog88gt on Apr 15, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

For those that didn’t get the reference (read: me) that quote wasn’t originally about Ovechkin.

by TheBored on Apr 15, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

The last few sentences are awesome.

Tortorella: Can I get another question? I went in here in a pretty good mood today, too.
Larry Brooks: So did I.
Tortorella: Well, you obviously f***ed that up, didn't you?

by Wheeler on Apr 15, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, yes they are…definitely worth reading to the end for those debating

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 15, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

T: can I get another question. I went in here in a pretty good mood today too

B: so did I

T: well you obviously f***ed that up didn’t you?

B: no you did

outstanding

by Ginga on Apr 15, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

They’re like me and my sister when we were little, if we knew how to curse.

“Nuh-uh!”

“Yuh-f***ing-HUH!”

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by Becca H on Apr 15, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’ll miss that after the Rangers go golfing.

Don’t try to figure Sasha out. Just ride the wave.

by gfcaps fan on Apr 15, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is absolutely fantastic!

by RVA Andy on Apr 15, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is amazing. I wish I had more recs to give.

by leacha on Apr 15, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s like Who’s on First.

"And then they’ll look at guys in my situation, that could play three good games in a row and have one bad shift, and they’ll say, ‘Well, that’s why he’s been in the minor leagues his whole career.'" --Matt Hendricks

by bigeugene on Apr 15, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can never get tired of Torts’ facial expressions. They’re the very best.

"And as it’s my personal opinion, I’d appreciate not being told it’s stupid, thanks." - BeccaH

by hotdog88gt on Apr 15, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, my wife says he and i have the same expressions. fortunately she banters better than brooksie.

by Ginga on Apr 15, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why is Larry Brooks such a complete asshole?

by RCheli on Apr 15, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

To make watching Torts’ post game presser so amazing.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I went to www.sovsport.ru to find out more about the Kharlamov trophy voting than what the Pucky Daddy article covered. The top three finishers were Datsyuk (44), Kovalchuk (42), and Ovechkin (40). Semin had 14 points.

Ovie’s votes:

1.Kovalchuk
2.Semin
3.Bryzgalov
“One is in New Jersey, pulled the team up. The start was unsuccessful. But the second half of the season turned out to feast for the eyes. "

Semin’s votes:

1.Datsyuk
2.Ovechkin
3.Kovalchuk
“Why Datsyuk? Because I like how he plays! "

Varly went with his fellow goalie:

1.Bryzgalov
2.Kovalchuk
3.Kulemin
 “Bryzgalov is simply the best this year, and all”.

by vtcapsfan99 on Apr 15, 2011 1:39 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I can’t find the post about Caps’ blown 2-0 series leads, but if we take a 2-0 lead tonight I’ll be feeling pretty damn good about things. Let’s think about this rationally. Teams that take a 2-0 lead historically win 87.3% of the time. Why would the same percentages not apply to this Caps team? Because they blew a bunch of series leads to superior teams in the 90’s?

No, if we win tonight, the Rangers are in deep shit.

by Kolzilla on Apr 15, 2011 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Keep telling yourself that. We’ve blown 2 game series leads in each of the last two post-seasons.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not this time. Last year’s team was worse. The year before that, the Penguins were always the superior team even throughout the first two games.

by Kolzilla on Apr 15, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bitter? Sour, perhaps, but bitter?

by DrinkingPartner on Apr 15, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I found it pithy

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Apr 15, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t get over my own preconception of lemons!

by DrinkingPartner on Apr 15, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know I’d feel better about winning the series if we lost the next 2 or 3….

"And as it’s my personal opinion, I’d appreciate not being told it’s stupid, thanks." - BeccaH

by hotdog88gt on Apr 15, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

So the Capitals are winning the war for which fan base makes better team related rap videos. Penguins Rebbecca Black video

If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

by zephyr on Apr 15, 2011 2:35 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Is that one of those situations where, even if you win, you lose?

There's always more to learn about Hockey.

by WordsOnIce on Apr 15, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would normally say yes but this song is so bad it makes the Caps songs sound like Grammy winners. That girl has some of the worst vocal rhythm too. It was grating.

If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

by zephyr on Apr 15, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you and good night. Not clicking that link.

There's always more to learn about Hockey.

by WordsOnIce on Apr 15, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s worse than Mr Hands.

by _Skullduggery_ on Apr 15, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

p.s. I hate you because up until this point, I had no idea who Rebecca Black is. Now I do, and I’m considering ending my life rather than going to the Caps game tonight. Ok, not really. It’s nice being completely ignorant of top 40 music. Then someone goes and shoves it in your face!!!

;-)

by _Skullduggery_ on Apr 15, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just FYI, Rebecca Black isn’t top 40 music. It’s popular on the internet because it’s so horrible. It’s also been parodied to death at this point.

It’s sort of like watching a train wreck though.

If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

by zephyr on Apr 15, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

And it’s pretty funny, all told.

by DrinkingPartner on Apr 15, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Technically not, though she debuted at 72 on the Billboard Hot 100 list…

I am a hockey fan first, and a Caps fan second.

by iwearstripes on Apr 15, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would watch the Rebecca Black video over Mr. Hands ANY DAY. If I had already eaten dinner I would have lost it when my roommate pulled that one up.

by RVA Andy on Apr 15, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

awful. the caps beat the pens, but then the canucks take out the caps in the finals with <a href="http://their cee-lo vid.

by Natty Bumppo on Apr 15, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hah, that’s great, I hadn’t seen it yet.

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by zephyr on Apr 15, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Versus tonight. National crew or a rebroadcast of a local team? Anyone know?

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by STLSpidey on Apr 15, 2011 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Are we positive Versus is going to take precedence over local broadcasts? Am I free of MSG for tonight?

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think anyone said that was the case. Pretty sure it’s MSG (whatever version) for NY area, CSN for DC area, and VS in other regions.

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 15, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that’s right. I get Versus, but in the glory that is Hoboken, you get MSG.

Is it Sam or Kenny these days?

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by STLSpidey on Apr 15, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sam.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Sam Rosen. He’s pretty fair and even-handed.

by RCheli on Apr 15, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

So he’s pale and his hands are the same size?

Matt Hendricks is a honey badger.

by D'ohboy on Apr 15, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big hands I know you’re the one.

If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

by zephyr on Apr 15, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

unless you have Center Ice and then you can listen to the team of your choice if you aren’t in the market. Thankfully that means JoeB for me and not the VS guys

by Beakers Lab on Apr 15, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe they are just picking up the local Comcast feed.

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 15, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm, with the promotion today, maybe it is an actual VS production with their own crew…I will try to look up the details.

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 15, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

So on MSG in NYC area, CSN in DC area, Versus elsewhere…so I still believe it’s the CSN feed they will be picking up.

http://www.msg.com/

As expected, MSG’s TV Schedule lists tonight’s game for the NY area.

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 15, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Caps/Rangers is the primary Versus broadcast tonight. If you are outside the teams’ markets and turn on versus, you will get the Versus broadcast of the game

by j762 on Apr 15, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it a Versus broadcast crew or a rebroadcast of the CSN version which will be on Versus in the out-of-market areas?

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 15, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

When they did Det./Phx., it was a Versus team broadcast, so I would bet that this will be, as well.

boo

by j762 on Apr 15, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know some of them are VS crew, I just haven’t seen anything about tonight’s game indicating VS coverage, which is why I asked, very possible for tonight, just hadn’t seen any info.

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 15, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Baltimore preseason game

Sorry if I missed the discussion about this, but did anyone see the prices listed for this
game?

Cheapest pair totals around $90.

I thought it might be fun to attend, even if I’m not a big fan of preseason games and I know there’s a cost to hosting a game, but yikes…

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 15, 2011 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

yikes is right. maybe because it’s such a small arena, they feel the need to recoup the costs of hosting it there? i bet they still sell out.

by Natty Bumppo on Apr 15, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

THIS JUST IN FROM RANGERLAND

cam talbot to start in goal tonight…Lundqvist decided not to play tonight “give the other guys a chance…i need a day off one of these day”

"Don't look now, but there's one too many people in this room and I think it's you." Groucho Marx

In Prust We Trust

"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.

A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep

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by Kevin Power on Apr 15, 2011 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

John Tortorella also announced that he will be donning a poncho for tonight’s game, saying, “What can I say, I wouldn’t trust me, either.”

In unrelated news, the Mayor of Pittsburgh has declared tomorrow “Alex Ovechkin Day”

by j762 on Apr 15, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

sidney crosby reported to have fallen and can not get up

"Don't look now, but there's one too many people in this room and I think it's you." Groucho Marx

In Prust We Trust

"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.

A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep

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by Kevin Power on Apr 15, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always thought he reminded me of Mike Ribeiro.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh

Ribeiro pops right back up after the penalty’s called

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

You should check the YouTube video of his antics when with MON against BOS. Someone imposed the audio “I’ve fallen, and I can’t get up” over him (and then “HELP! I’m having chest pain!”). Love it.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

That dive might be one of the all-time greatest dives. What a shitshow that series was…

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by Becca H on Apr 15, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's a queston

If the Caps take a commanding series lead, (3-0 or 3-1), does it make sense to start Varly in goal for a game?

It’s hardly like we’d be showing them a soft goaltender, but it would suggest that the Caps are looking past the game in front of them.

Would this make sense this round, or perhaps in a later round when fatigue may start setting in for Neuvirth?

by j762 on Apr 15, 2011 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

No. A million times no.

If the series ends in 4 or 5, the team will have plenty of time to rest.

by RCheli on Apr 15, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stop agreeing with me, dick.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

All I want is your love. That’s all I want. And yet all you give is hate, hate, hate.

Daddy? Daddy, is that you?

by RCheli on Apr 15, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Especially given the extra off days in this series.

by grapejoos on Apr 15, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think fatigue is a concern for Neuvy. If he’s playing well enough to get us up to 3-0 or 3-1 I say you let him slam the door shut and then take his rest.

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by Rob Parker on Apr 15, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d much rather just end it early (not saying that Varly would lose necessarily) and give the whole team rest that way

"If you want money, go to the bank. If you want bread, go to the bakery. If you want goals, go to the net" -Brooks Laich

by sami426 on Apr 15, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok, so how do people see the Caps using 2 goaltenders?

by j762 on Apr 15, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

people see that?

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

JP does, for one

by j762 on Apr 15, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

JP thinks the Caps will use 2 goalies in the playoffs? I can see that if Neuvy falters, but otherwise that would surprise me.

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

He says that he sees both goaltenders getting starts in this playoff run.

if he comes around, I’m sure he’d be happy to explain his thinking in this matter

by j762 on Apr 15, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

This I’m more okay with. I actually got NHL 08 to glitch and give my roommate and I two goalies. One of us was lying in the crease and somehow that defender turned into a second goalie. Believe we were the Sharks so we ended up with two Nabokovs somehow.

"If you want money, go to the bank. If you want bread, go to the bakery. If you want goals, go to the net" -Brooks Laich

by sami426 on Apr 15, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

If there’s a back-to-back.

"I wake up in the middle night frustrated because we lost out in the first round and I want to see our players hoist the Stanley Cup." -Brooks Laich

by CapitalCentre on Apr 15, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

When was the last back-to-back in the playoffs other than Games 1 and 2 of the 09 finals? I think those are usually frowned upon.

by RCheli on Apr 15, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, they’re not supposed to happen, but they sometimes do. Yanni.

"I wake up in the middle night frustrated because we lost out in the first round and I want to see our players hoist the Stanley Cup." -Brooks Laich

by CapitalCentre on Apr 15, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I’d check the CONSOL calendar for potential round two dates.

Don’t try to figure Sasha out. Just ride the wave.

by gfcaps fan on Apr 15, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

P.S. GO LIGHTNING!

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by Bman21212 on Apr 15, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. and see Boston last year, until you get to 4 wins in a series you don’t have 4 wins in a series :)

by sk84fun_dc on Apr 15, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Book It

At least once tonight, Avery will get to the net and give Neuvy a nudge (spear?) after the whistle. No call, but a scrum will ensue. One of our defensemen will get in his face, and Avery will dive to the ice like the little fucking weasel he is. A cap will go off for roughing, NYR will get a power play, and the announcers will commend Avery for being such an effective pest.

Man do I hate that guy.

by Alex Reed on Apr 15, 2011 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Neuvy needs to learn to throw some slashes from Holtby. Or maybe he did learn from Theo.

Many a night from yonder ivied casement, ere I went to rest,
Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.

by sydtron on Apr 15, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just thinking that I’d love to see Holtby there for just that reason.

Geeks of All Nations, Compile!

by AMusingFool on Apr 15, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scott Hannan.

The keyboard is mightier.

by breed16 on Apr 15, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe even Semin...

Doesn’t take much to swat a gnat.

by Alex Reed on Apr 15, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

During the last game on the MSG feed, the announcers said there was some roughing going on between a rags player and neuvy, but no penalty was called because it appeared Neuvy was an active and willing participant.

I didn’t see what happened because the Caps immediately went on the forecheck.

But it suggests that perhaps Neuvy won’t take too much shit

by j762 on Apr 15, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was Prospal I think? Definitely happened, and I don’t remember Neuvy “actively and willingly participating”. Unless getting crosschecked means you’re participating in which case Bradley was participating later on in the game, too.

Many a night from yonder ivied casement, ere I went to rest,
Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.

by sydtron on Apr 15, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

annnnd, not saying that it should have been a penalty. Refs left their whistles in their locker room for that game.

Many a night from yonder ivied casement, ere I went to rest,
Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.

by sydtron on Apr 15, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha no, Neuvy definitely wasn’t participating. He was just popping back up and probably cursing at him in Czech, but he wasn’t doing anything to egg him on or anything.

by redpezrocket on Apr 15, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

that’s how i saw it as well. what is the limit for goalies, anyway?

maybe neuvy’s approach, stone cold with some choice words, would make a Rag angrier than a physical reaction (and therefore more dumb penalty prone!)

by Neuvychick on Apr 15, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe this time, Varly will yell something ungodly at him from the bench, and Avery won’t know what the hell he’s saying.

Now he’ll know how it feels to try to fuck with someone when they don’t speak your language. Awkward and pointless.

by j762 on Apr 15, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

what an asshole for having redeeming qualities.

by j762 on Apr 15, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know he’s cheap, dirty, etc, but I think he’s one of the most interesting personalities in the NHL. He’s the enemy when we play him, but otherwise I’m fascinated by him.

by discuit on Apr 16, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good for him

"You do that you go to the box, you know. Two minutes by yourself and you feel shame, you know. And then you get free."

by LucyImHome on Apr 15, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know, I felt really conflicted when I found out about this. I think it’s a really great thing that he did and I commend him for it.

I will now proceed to condemn him for everything else.

by grapejoos on Apr 15, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dammit!!!

Now I will hate him a little less tonight. I hate not hating him all the way

by RedArmy on Apr 15, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well, looks like the last time I said something bad about Sean Avery is probably the last time I say something bad about Sean Avery.

by leacha on Apr 15, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Until after this series.

by SethB on Apr 15, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jarret Stoll suspended one game, McKenzie says Kings may call up Brayden Schenn.

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2011 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

No pressure, kid. None at all.

Don’t try to figure Sasha out. Just ride the wave.

by gfcaps fan on Apr 15, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 games burns the year of ELC, right? might as well get him the 1 game and see how he handles it

by Beakers Lab on Apr 15, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seeing the results and highlights of last night’s EC games made me quite confident about the Caps. Boston and Philly got Halaked. Not just in that they were shut out, but that they were just choked off from having any offensive potency.

I think the Caps have the offensive grit and talent to defeat these defensive walls. Alex Ovechkin, Mike Green, Nick Backstrom, and Alex Semin are marksmen capable of firing impossible-to-stop shots to an area with twine behind it with consistency (whether or not they will is another question), as opposed to sending puck after puck into the Habs or Sabres crest. The highlights of the Bs-Habs game showed Boston firing some real howitzers at Price. The Caps not only can fire howitzers, but bullets.

It will be interesting to see how the Caps play with a lead when they achieve one. I’m quite optimistic.

by j762 on Apr 15, 2011 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

So avery didn’t even watch his team from the stands on Wednesday night?

by j762 on Apr 15, 2011 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

What a joke. I hope he’s right, but this seems like he’s going for a jinx or something. If the Caps lose tonight, all the pressure is back on them and the Lamberts of the world will be sharpening their knives again. I’m happy the way they played in game 1, but as the comments point out (can’t believe I’m agreeing with PD comments), they almost lost in a shutout.

by grapejoos on Apr 15, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

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