Tuesday Caps Clips: Holtby, Caps Beat the Bolts
Your savory breakfast links:
- Recaps and other assorted musings on last night's win from us, Vogs, NHL.com, WaPo (Carrera: blog, gamer), DCEx (McNally: blog, gamer), Caps365 video (Boudreau, players), CSN Washington (O'Halloran), Puck Daddy, PHT, Frankovic, Peerless, RMNB, SB Nation DC, OFB, KOL, Capitals News Network, Skate Skate SHOOT, Capitals Outsider, RtR, StC, CRtC, Hockey Mom, WC2010, Caps Daily, Hockey Addicts, Bolts by the Bay, Raw Charge and the Tampa Tribune.
- How about that save by Braden Holtby on Simon Gagne? [SB Nation DC]
- Fathers and sons... excuse me, I've got some dust in my eye. [Dump 'n Chase]
- An early look at the Caps' deadline deals. [On Hockey (El-Bashir)]
- Get to know a new guy: Dennis Wideman. [Homer McFanboy]
- Assuming good health (never a safe assumption in these parts), is it time for Bruce Boudreau to pick a goalie and run with him? [SB Nation DC]
- Speaking of goalies and health, some words on Michal Neuvirth and head injuries, generally. [KG's District]
- Speaking of goalies and health, some words on Semyon Varlamov. [RtR]
- And speaking of skaters and health, Mike Green skated yesterday, but there's currently no timetable as to when he'll return to the lineup. [CI (Carrera)]
- In praise of the Caps' youngest defensemen. [Ross Hollebon's Sports Pub]
- So if/when the entire blueline gets healthy, who sits? [Hockey Independent (Scriven)]
- The Caps are gathering momentum at just the right time. [CRtC]
- You asked, Matt Bradley answered. [CI (video)]
- Dmitry Orlov: game changer. [CSN Washington (Raby)]
- Bear Tracks! [LDN]
- The Bears made a pre-Clear Day move, acquiring forward Andrew Kozek on loan from Chicago in exchange for Josh Godfrey (both players' remain property of the same NHL clubs they were affiliated with prior to the transaction). [Patriot-News (Leone)]
- Good news on the Tomas Fleischmann front. [TrueHockey]
- In other former Caps news, Donald Brashear "shakes it on stage." FYI. [Bog]
- Finally, happy 35th birthday to Chris Clark, happy 43rd to Rob Zettler, happy 40th to Rob Pearson, happy 48th to Mike Lalor and happy 50th to Larry Murphy.
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With the way Carlzner have been playing I was a little worried about how they would do against the firepower of Stamkos/MSL but they kept them off the board the whole night – just as they have in the previous 5 games.
Still think it wouldn’t be the worst idea to split them up for a game or two, but maybe they are getting back on track.
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They certainly were better (very good, even) last night, though Carlson had a couple of rough spots, and his penalty on Stamkos wasn’t a very good one.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 8, 2011 7:25 AM EST reply actions 6 recs
Another entry into the picture contest

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by bilspacecadet on Mar 8, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions 12 recs
Awesome.
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
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The first time I’m seeing this, and I kinda want it on a T-shirt.
Aut bibat aut abeat.
by Bald Pollack on Mar 8, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
I just noticed that it said “Braden D. Williams.” Nice touch.
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 8, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
thanks—I need to blur the “Braden” a bit more—sticks out right now.
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by bilspacecadet on Mar 8, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
wow.. finished that youtube video
wow.. finished that youtube videoIt seriously looks like Marty is about to cry
The one in YLM’s comment (above the GIF).
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Ahhh thank you. When I saw the page on my phone, I missed that that was a link.
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LET ME TASTE YOUR TEARS, MARTY

Yessss! Yessss!!! The tears of unfathomable sadness!!!
by Brainumbc on Mar 8, 2011 8:03 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I was going to say the same…I mean I think his lips quivered a few teams and his eyes were welling up..
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I love that guy. Of course he’s upset. He has so much heart… He’s at or near the very top of the “players I wish were on my team” list.
You had me at no problem.
I would LOVE to have MSL on the team…buuuut Evason may feel a little different. That cute little guy needs to sack up.
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MSL sacks up on a nightly basis more than most of the Caps do combined.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 8, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
I may not necessarily agree with his take on some plays, and I may hate when he produces against the Caps. But nobody can ever legitimately knock him for his effort and compete level. Very few guys in the league bring it every shift like MSL does. I absolutely love him as a player, and he is 100% a class act.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 8, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed. I’d lock Mathieu Perreault in a room all summer with video of St. Louis, Clockwork Orange-style, fwiw.
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by J.P. on Mar 8, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
It’s worth a shot. If MP could turn out to be half the player MSL is (for the Caps) they would be very fortunate.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 8, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
I think the general consensus in the hockey world is that MSL is a guy that 30 out of 30 teams would love having in the fold. I dont think anyone would argue that……..
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For someone who is a WINGER, and a 100 pt guy at that, he sure does crank out a lot more assists than goals
Usually it’s the wingers getting all the goals and the centers getting all the assists
He acts as the pivot quite a bit for Tampa, even if he isn’t actually the center on the line.
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Exactly… he doesn’t take the face offs, but as the play flows, he switches positions with the guy taking the face offs and plays the center position.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 8, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
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‘grab your sack and get to work’ or something along those lines. Was it Irbe who said it?
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Or you just need to hang around some dudes. It’s a pretty common phrase amongst the testosterone-enabled.
I blame Schultz
snark a little…in reference to his soggy eyes from the post game interview. I am not speaking at all on what he does on the ice, infact I said Id love to have him on the Caps….The Evason comment was a JOKE
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Of course he’s upset. He has so much heart
Yea. We’ll let this one slide. MSL is a class act, but nobody’s perfect and he may have a case. I mean hell, look how much we as Caps fans whined during the interference that lead to the goal against Huet in game 7 against the Flyers. And we had a right to.
I’m just glad this wasn’t a playoff game.
I guess one thing to remember is that bad and/or questionable, emotional calls happen a lot. The longer you’re in the league, the more you see and the easier it is to “deal with it”. If this was game #20 or 30 on the season he probably could have shrugged it off, but it was such a huge game for him.
Marty, despite being a player that’s been in the league so long and having actually won a cup, he’s only been in the playoffs for four different runs (and getting bounced in the first round the last two times). And the last time was back in 2007. It seems like TB hasn’t really had so much riding in years that they’ve forgotten what it was like to actually be in a REALLY emotional game
Btw, today’s title was going to be “Holtbeast Beats Bolts” and I was going to make everyone say it five times fast, like “Knapsack strap” or “Toy boat.”
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“Holtby Halts Bolts”
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 8, 2011 7:37 AM EST up reply actions
beastin'

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by EmilyB on Mar 8, 2011 7:44 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
With that Van Dyke, all Ribeiro’s missing is the big hat and pencil moustache and he’s Snidely Whiplash.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 8, 2011 8:16 AM EST up reply actions
Sorry, not a Van Dyke. Soul patch.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 8, 2011 8:17 AM EST up reply actions
Get your beard types right please.
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Sure, right after I punch Mike Ribeiro.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 8, 2011 8:16 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Is Ribeiro the most underrated “guy people hate” in the entire league? He never gets mentioned with the top pests, but everyone hates his guts.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 8, 2011 8:18 AM EST up reply actions
It’s because I wouldn’t classify him as a ‘pest’. He’s just an idiot. A pest would be Dan Carcillo or Chris Neil; they spend the entire game aggravating you. Ribeiro spends the entire game whining and looking stupid.
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Isn’t spending the entire game whining and looking stupid aggravating?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 8, 2011 8:21 AM EST up reply actions
He’s kind of a tool.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 8, 2011 8:21 AM EST up reply actions
Saying Ribeiro is “kind of a tool” is like saying Scarlett Johansson is “kind of pretty”.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 8, 2011 8:22 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Scarlett Johansson
AHHH!!! I just got an image of Marcus Joansson wearing a scarlet red evening gown
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That isn’t gay, it’s cross dressing. Either way, interesting imagination you have.
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by WordsOnIce on Mar 8, 2011 9:27 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
This play encapsulates by beef with Mike Ribiero.
Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something.
Thought it was gonna be this one.
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reminds me of this oldie, but goodie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_b48-GbMCM
The two players you love to hate
I can’t find video of the time Mike Green got high-sticked pretty hard in the face… And then 2 seconds later jerked his head back like it was on a string.
You had me at no problem.
Mike Green and a delayed reaction? You don’t say!
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by Rather Bengt on Mar 8, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
not sure if that’s Green’s “acting” or there’s a 2 second delay in processing in that head of his.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 8, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Guy must have been up at Case all night.
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by Rob Parker on Mar 8, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Dude was on PCP or something. Unreal.
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I have no compunctions about the Caps paying him 6 million dollars a year now.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 8, 2011 7:41 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t know what he was on (Tiger Blood?) but I want stock in it. PRONTO.
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Indeed he is our Big Cat. I use to think of him as a panther, but given his quick strikes and how fiery and combative he’s been recently he really is a Siberian Tiger. Time for him to drape himself in the unlikeliest spots (and on the players) in the rink during practice today.
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by capsyoungguns on Mar 8, 2011 8:07 AM EST up reply actions
Of course. I just love photos of him in cat-like repose.
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by capsyoungguns on Mar 8, 2011 8:37 AM EST up reply actions
One of my sons and I screamed so loud when he scored that the youngest said we gave him a headache.
by Seminrocks on Mar 8, 2011 8:54 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I screamed so loud the cat bolted out of the room and up the stairs. I’ve tried to warn them that hockey nights are not good times to curl up next to me or the mrs, but they just don’t listen
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I used to be so loud during hockey games… And now I have a 9-month-old girl, and I haven’t been able to scream in my own livingroom past 6:30pm in months. Re-training myself was VERY difficult.
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The Scream

That made me think of “The Scream.” My youngest son’s 1st (and 6th) grade teacher was a guy and had a carousel of ties from which he let the kids pick one out for each day. My favorite was of “The Scream” since I am sure that’s the way he felt at the end of each day. Yes, at 6 months and under they sleep through loud noises, but not so much at 9 months.
That doesn’t end. I am still chided by Mrs. Spidey for cheering and waking up a middle-schooler and a high-schooler – even though she is the best hockey wife there is.
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I love watching Sasha lounge too. Especially when it’s on another teammate. It just amuses me to no end.
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Me too.
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by capsyoungguns on Mar 8, 2011 9:01 AM EST up reply actions
Happy to oblige. I’m a dog person, not much for cats, but this is one cat I love. Kind of makes me think of the cat I had in high school I did like, Stretch, which sat on top of the ladder while my boyfriend painted the hall outside my bedroom. I was convinced Stretch just liked the fumes.
I am a cat person who loves to watch the ridiculous poses cats get themselves into, positions that simply cannot be comfortable yet there they are purring away happily.
Semin is the most catlike person I have ever seen. It’s as if he has no bones or the most bendable joints imaginable. Makes sense that a guy who can get off a wicked fast shot while balanced precariously on one foot would also be someone who languidly lounges along the top of the half wall at the bench or sinously drapes himself over his fellow players or perches on top of his goalie’s lap surveying the rink.
Damn but he was fun to watch last night.
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by capsyoungguns on Mar 8, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I’ll always have a soft spot for him because, other than my kids, he’s the reason I started paying closer attention to the Caps. When he’s out there, it’s exciting, and part of that excitement is not knowing what might happen, but yet almost anything is possible in a spectacular way, for good or bad. That’s entertainment. If it’s not entertaining for 82 games, then why go?
And dangerous.
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by capsyoungguns on Mar 8, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
#winning
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 8, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
Siberian Tiger Sasha

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by WordsOnIce on Mar 8, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 14 recs
Rec-ed. Must keep this image. I have a feeling we will feel the urge to see it again in the near future.
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by capsyoungguns on Mar 8, 2011 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
is it crazy to think...
that Arnott’s presence (both in the locker room and on his line) is paying immediate dividends in Semin’s inspired play? Maybe not wholly responsible for it, but you have to think that Arnott is not the type of dude you want to half-ass it for.
by DonnieKnutts on Mar 8, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe they just told him that feds put on 20 pounds and that Arnott is the new NHL spelling for “Фёдоров”
Oh, and how about that YAWNING cage that Arnott completely missed with a backhander? How many facepalms were there across Caps Nation…
You had me at no problem.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 8, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
I wanted to take a header off my balcony after he shanked that. Yowch.
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It would be nice to think that Arnott is having a positive influence on Semin, but I don’t know that I buy that as a huge influence. He’s never been an easy one to figure out. I wonder if it’s the fact he is recovering from his injury and getting back to the form and state of mind he was in during October/November. Or maybe this is his version of cranking things up in preparation for the playoffs like Ovie seems to be doing.
Semin had already started getting it together even before Arnott came to the team. He had scored the game winner in the Isles game in NY. Arnott’s arrival certainly hasn’t hurt.
But I think the getting over the injury is probably the main factor in Semin’s improved productivity.
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But the cycling and battling along the boards have been much better, especially last night. Perhaps Semin also needed an experienced center—no. Despite the myriad intangibles of leadership etc that many of us hope Arnott has brought to the the team, I personally thought that having a battle-scarred veteran to center him could really help Semin. I really hope they (as well as Laich) feed off one another.
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by capsyoungguns on Mar 8, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
I’ll believe Arnott is a good influence when Semin plays a consistently good 20 game stretch
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by Gould Old Days on Mar 8, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
I still cannot believe he missed a wrister in I think the 3rd? Rebound fell right to his feet, he had gobs of space but launched it high. Even though he was Good Sasha last night, he still left some points on the ice.
Gotta love it when he brings his A game because there’s no one in the league that has his talent.
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On Neuvirth leaving — once I heard that he had played the remainder of the period with a piece of metal in his eye, I got scared. To me, it seems a bit dangerous to play with metal in the eye. Not worth it to risk one’s vision.
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Seeing how there was nothing noticeably wrong when he was on the bench, I bet it was just a splinter of metal.
Matt Bradley: He has sensitive skin, no?
Yeah, probably just one of those things that gets more irritating as time goes on if you don’t take care of it. He probably didn’t even notice when it first happened.
With the gloves and equipment, just a minor irritation is probably maddening if you don’t have any free hands to try to work it out.
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by PaintDrinkingPete on Mar 8, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
Probably just a scratched cornea
It’s bearable but you get the feeling that there is still something in there and gets quite scratchy and annoying.
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Wouldn’t be surprised if they rest Neuvy for the next game as a result.
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A few years ago I got out of a car in TX in high wind and piece of gravel became embedded in my eye. I had just arrived at my sister’s house and promptly had to go to the ophthalmologist. He removed it, but I had to wear a gauze over it for 24 hrs. and then use antibiotic drops. I thought I had a log stuck in my eye, the way it felt. It did cause my eye to water for a few days.
I mentioned it last night, but it’s worth repeating here – any format for deciding a hockey game in which “Hall and Moore” are arguably a better option than “Stamkos and St. Louis” has no business deciding a hockey game.
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by J.P. on Mar 8, 2011 8:05 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
I agree with you, of course, but at the same time I don’t see how Hall and Moore regardless of how they played in that game are even arguably better than St. Louis and Stamkos, MSL in particular. Boneheaded move. You have to go with those guys every time, right?
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His decision there to send out Hall and Moore in lieu of Stamkos and St. Louis (especially with Holtby in net) was absolutely bizarre.
It seemed like a classic textbook definition of a guy who “outcoached” himself. Just go with the guys who are going to give you the best chance to win the game, genius.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 8, 2011 8:10 AM EST up reply actions
yeah
You’d think that, with 91, 26, and 4, he’d have his shootout lineup pre-set regardless of goalie and then go from there.
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No, it wasn’t, given the circumstances. Stamkos, St. Louis, and Lecavalier were a combined 0-for-12 in the Gimmick this year. Hall and Moore were 5-for-11. In fact, Victor Hedman was the only Lightning player left who has actually scored an SO goal this year (2-for-6), Ryan Malone being out with an injury.
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And? Stamkos leads the league in goals. St. Louis is probably going to be a HOFer. I send those guys up every single time, ESPECIALLY in a game as big as this one was against an AHL goalie.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 8, 2011 8:20 AM EST up reply actions
I think the argument can be made either way.
On a sidenote, I’m just glad I didn’t have to watch that St. Louis “skate in backwards” crap.
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I think it comes down to “how much media criticism are you willing to take”. You hear often how football don’t go for it on 4th down and short because the FG/punt was the “safe” thing to do. Leaving your star players on the bench for the shootout would be the similar to that. Even though Ovechkin’s SO record isn’t that great, Bruce knows he has to be in that first three.
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Agreed. I’d have put my big guns out there, no matter what they’d done in the past. But that’s just me.
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It’s akin to when Tony LaRussa left Pujols on the bench at the All-Star game for Aaron Rowand with the bases loaded in the bottom of the ninth with two outs down a run.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 8, 2011 8:44 AM EST up reply actions
Numbers aside, who do you think Holtby wanted to see pop over the boards for the first shot in the shootout, Stamkos or Moore? Statistically, putting out Moore is probably the right move, but considering Holtby’s atrocious outing in his last shootout against the Rangers, I might have gone for the big gun to see if he could be rattled.
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Agreed. Plus, the other coach shit-talked your boy earlier in the day – how about giving him a chance to shut him up?
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You know, in a situation like this, there’s a high potentiality for the common motherfucker to bitch out.
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by bilspacecadet on Mar 8, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I wonder if it’s a case where 91/26/4 don’t get enough chances or this is just not a part of the game they are good at (except when skating backward). It’s hard to argue with much that Boucher has done this year; it isn’t an especially deep team in skill, and their defense/goaltending is middle-of-the-road at best. He’s done quite a job with what he’s got; for me the default position is that he knows his roster.
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Wouldn’t you throw your big guns out there against a goalie with 9 NHL games under his belt and who didn’t start the game? It would seem that the mental factor there is as important as the players’ prior shootout records.
Wouldn’t you throw your big guns out there against a goalie with 9 NHL games
If not to win, at least to better gauge him for a future playoff matchup
Not that there are shootouts in the playoffs, but I’d imagine a lot of valuable information about a goalie’s weakness can be obtained through the shootout
I wish Ovechkin would don the hat and sunglasses for it and have Semin Gatorade him before he went out to take his turn. Take THAT, Bettman!
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by ThePeerless on Mar 8, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I know I was frustrated when BB kept sending AO into the SO despite us all knowing AO would fail. I can see why he didn’t use them.
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Since he started coming in on the wide angle and playing off the goalie he has gotten much, much better.
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Wide angle and from the right.
Hmm.
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From the goalie’s right. It means he gets to hold the puck on his forehand and skate across the entire face of the net. It constantly changes the shooting angle and makes it much more difficult for the goalie. I don’t know why more players don’t do that (I suspect some of it has to do with the quality of the ice out wide at that point, but most of those guys are good enough to negate that issue).
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he has gotten much, much better
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by Gould Old Days on Mar 8, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
Right. I’m absolutely not questioning Boucher’s decision to put those guys out there, but rather how appropriate it is to have hockey games decided by something that obviously has so little to do with who’s actually good at hockey.
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That’s probably the worst part about it – making the standings even more convoluted and essentially saying, “Shootouts are legit enough to decide games, but not standings.” I have no idea on earth how you reconcile that last part with a straight face.
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Gary Bettman on the shootout and such distinctions…
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Oh. No quarrel there.
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 8, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
If we had three Wolski’s, wouldn’t you put them out there before Ovechkin? I feel like, if you’ve got shootout specialists, use ’em.. otherwise, go with your stars.
I’m in no position to say if Hall and Moore are shootout specialists, but they certainly didn’t make Holtby look like he did in the Rangers shootout.
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If we had three Wolski’s, wouldn’t you put them out there before Ovechkin?
Honestly, I wouldn’t. I’d sink or swim with my best player.
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For the longest time, Ovechkin didn’t start in the shootout because he wasn’t good at it, despite his skill when attempting to score against defenders + goalie. It made sense then.
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 8, 2011 9:13 AM EST up reply actions
I can’t ever recall AO not going in the shootout.
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by red army line on Mar 8, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think he hasn’t been in the first three skaters since Year 2.
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Ovie has been the leader/tied for the lead in SO attempts for the Caps every season except 2007-8, when he was 1 behind Kozlov and Semin. He’s been in the first 3 almost every time.
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by Scott in Shaw on Mar 8, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
I was thinking first shooter — that’s where the discussion started — but it’s moot. And I have no clue how to go looking for shooter lineups for shootout games two and three seasons ago.
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 8, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
He was good, then he sucked, now he’s ok. The circle of life, hockey style.
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Once he figured out that going wide gives you infinitely more options he’s been much better. He’s made it much more difficult for the goalie and seems not to be out-thinking himself (which I do think became a problem for a while).
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Last year, I felt he was trying to plan his move in advance. This year I think he’s more zen-like and instinctual. He just takes what’ he’s given by the goalie
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by Gould Old Days on Mar 8, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
Just go with the guys who are going to give you the best chance to win the game, genius.
Goal scoring during play ≠ goal scoring on a penalty shot/shootout.
There are just some guys who do it well and some guys that don’t. I’m sure Boucher has watched his team in practice and previous shootouts and had a reason for what he did.
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by D'ohboy on Mar 8, 2011 9:11 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Because Hall and Moore both have better SO% than Stamkos or MSL. Stamkos is below 20% career, as is MSL. Halls is 30% for his career, and Moore is 42% for his career. However, this goes back to JP’s original post.
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by timmyv38 on Mar 8, 2011 9:49 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The numbers say otherwise.
And you’ll recall how we all soundly roasted Bikov when he continued to send AO out there in the SO in the Olympics; the best in-game scorers are not always the best option in a skills competition.
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by fat_daddyo on Mar 8, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You see Stamkos on his penalty shot against the Pens? Guy dove like two seconds in. Boucher was probably just trying to avoid another embarrassing incident.
Related: as long as Ovechkin is going to get out-worked by fourth liners, his line will get shut down by fourth liners. And those are fourth liners’ fourth liners. Not an above average fourth liner in the bunch. Nate Fucking Thompson is the key to slowing down Ovechkin? Sheesh.
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Seriously. It’s not like Nate Thompson is Mike Weaver or anything.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 8, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Given this years shootout record, putting Hall and Moore out there made statistical sense. However, you have a rookie goalie who, to be kind, didn’t do so well in his first shootout (not sure if Boucher knew that or not). If I’m the coach I put out Stamkos, Vinny and Marty if for no other reason than to make Holtby say, “Holy shit, it’s Stamkos, Vinny and Marty!”.
After watching Vinny’s “attempt” though, I wonder if the Lightning didn’t throw this one so they could narrow the SO win differential…
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I would have given Stamkos a crack at it for the sole purpose of making Bruce eat his words.
by JimCareyFanClub on Mar 8, 2011 8:45 AM EST up reply actions
not sure if Boucher knew that or not
If he didn’t, he was horribly unprepared. Safe bet that coaches know how the other team’s two goalies have done in shootouts. Hell, if Versus has the stats, so do NHL teams.
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there’s stats, and then there’s knowing that Holtby over committed so hard that he slid right across the ice and into Virginia in his only other SO attempt.
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by RedBirdie on Mar 8, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I suspect Boucher puts a lot more stock in what he knows about Holtby’s many AHL shootouts. I’m sure TB had that scouting information ready for him.
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by Gould Old Days on Mar 8, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, Vinny’s attempt was slightly worse than that windup shot by Semin between the circles.
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by J.P. on Mar 8, 2011 8:52 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I wonder if the Lightning didn’t throw this one so they could narrow the SO win differential…
This may have been in jest…but not a good strategy. A SO win is still two points, whereas a SO loss is only one. All things being equal, if it comes down to a tie-breaker, that extra point would have made it a moot point.
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by PaintDrinkingPete on Mar 8, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
any format for deciding a hockey game in which "Hall and Moore" are arguably a better option than "Stamkos and St. Louis" has no business deciding a hockey game.
Sorry I can’t go for that. No can do.
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The shootout is to hockey what H-O-R-S-E is to basketball. I wonder, is major league baseball going to institute a new tie-breaker that deletes wins for team earned when the DH had the game-winin RBI? The league wants it both ways — the most exciting play in hockey, but it doesn’t count when breaking ties for playoff seeding.
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…which is the point. It would be dumb, having nothing to do with the game that was played for 48 minutes before that. Yet the NHL thinks that using something related to the game just played only in that they are still wearing the equipment they wore in the game decides that game and, except for ties, playoff seeding.
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it’d probably be more like the NBA going to a free-throw competition to decide a game that goes past the first overtime.
Wasn’t one of the reasons for going to the short OT and SO to make it fit better in a specific time block for the TV contract? Well the NBA, NFL, MLB, etc have no problem going to overtime.
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Here’s the thing: when you’re at a game, look at how excited people get during the shootout. The people in the know hate it, but the majority of fans (who aren’t in the know) love it.
Well, I am one of those that get excited. I find it to be great drama (especially if it goes extra rounds). I also think it is a stupid way to decide a winner.
by MikeBrady on Mar 8, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
The Goat leaves before every shootout. He can do what he wants, but I’m content to watch and be entertained and then bitch later about how that’s no way to decide a hockey game.
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by Scott in Shaw on Mar 8, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
I never understood that gesture, personally. Yeah, the shootout is a dumb way to decide the game, but I still care enough about the outcome to shit through a shootout.
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Worst typo ever? Worst typo ever.
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Worst typo I’ve committed on the Rink, at least.
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Unfortunately, the witnesses to said typo already knew what it meant.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 8, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Playoff hockey is the crown jewel of the sport, and remains unblemished by such silliness.
I view the shootout the same as I do the washed-out goals on interference calls. You didn’t do enough during the hockey portion of the game to come out with the W, so you can’t complain if you get the OTL. Take care of business, and the standings will take care of themselves, regardless of whatever goofy standings rules the league happens to be using in a given year.
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by Ninjak on Mar 8, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is why I hate shoot outs...
They need to be gotten rid of, or made into more of a team event. If you have to have the Bettman-Gimmick then the rules should be like this:
5 shooters per team to start, named in advance, one must be a defenseman. Instead of alternating shots, it would be like bowling in that the home team takes the first shot, the visitors take their first two, then the home team takes two until each team takes five shots. If it’s tied, then each coach will name 3 more shooters, one of whom is a defenseman, and then it’s alternating shots. If it’s still tied after 8 shooters, then single rounds can be used.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 8, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
I almost turned the game off when I realized Holtby was going to be up against anyone in a shoot out after that Rangers debacle
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The main problem I have with the entire “Trade Shea Weber/Shea Weber iz leaving Nashville!!1” meme is that it’s incredibly uneducated. If the people who wrote this stuff did five minutes of legwork, they would figure out that a) Weber does not want to leave Nashville, 2) signing him as an RFA would cost them a bushel of prime draft picks, 3) they’d have to trade half their team back to acquire him in a trade that Poile didn’t want to do in the first place, 4) ownership has repeatedly stated that they will pay whatever it takes to keep 6/20, and 5) Nashville is very soon going to be able to spend to the cap (evidenced by acquiring Fisher’s contract).
Look, if we could trade Weber and snag someone legitimately elite, like Zach Parise, et. al., then I’d listen, but the whole thing is unrealistic.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 8, 2011 8:45 AM EST up reply actions
There’s this Semin guy in DC that you would just LOVE to pay big money and long term!
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Boudreau complains about Downie and Stamkos diving and the Caps get three PPs and, most importantly, the ref waves off a Lightning goal because of goalie interference (that never happened). Mission Accomplished, Bruce.
Hey, we may never know, but I certainly don’t think it hurt.
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Agreed (though I thought taking Hannan off with Vinny was garbage). Were I Boucher, I’d have gone with, “They complained about the officiating pre-game and look, it worked” post-game.
Also, I wonder if that Too Many Men penalty was an “F You” from the officials to Bruce.
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I thought the call on Hannan was the correct call although it never gets made. Hannan definitely helped the interference call by having Vinny’s stick under his arm. I see it all the time and it’s a great veteran move if you can pull it off.
I think the refs were certainly looking to even things up, which is why I was really surprised at the OT call on Tampa. Didn’t see an egregious infraction worthy of an OT penalty.
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I thought the call on Hannan was the correct call although it never gets made. Hannan definitely helped the interference call by having Vinny’s stick under his arm. I see it all the time and it’s a great veteran move if you can pull it off.
Except Hannan got called for high-sticking, as his stick supposedly grazed Vinny’s face as he pulled free. He was not called for holding Vin’s stick – the bozos on Versus had it wrong.
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Ah, well that is stupid although they didn’t show a replay to see whether he hit his face or not. The high stick call would explain why the ref behind the goal made the call because he didn’t have the best angle to see Hannan holding his stick.
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You were listening to Pierre McGuire werent you? I saw what happened during the play and once the announcers saw both players were going off, McGuire assummed it was holding the stick by Hannan. I think it shouldn’t have been call, cause how I see it, that high stick would of never happened if Vinny never interfered. Bad call by the refs.
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that high stick would of never happened if Vinny never interfered.
Causation doesn’t really matter in this situation (if it was indeed a high stick). Just because a guy is holding or interfering with you doesn’t give you the opportunity to high stick or otherwise foul the other player without being penalized.
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If you think about it, the second part of the holding the stick signal is similar to a high stick. It’s possible (not likely) that the referee made the wrong gesture, or the official scorer only saw the stick portion of holding the stick….
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 8, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
I thought that call on Kubina was weak myself, especially at that time of the game and in that situation.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 8, 2011 8:54 AM EST up reply actions
I viewed that as a “third strike and you’re out” type of call. Knuble got hooked down at center ice in the third, in a really classic example that in the first two periods draws a whistle without a doubt, but as he managed to get the puck in deep, they let play continue; then the Hannan thing; after that, I agree that Kubina was a bit of a ticky-tacky call, but I felt like the refs said, “enough is enough”.
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agreed, I couldn’t believe that OT penalty on TB was called. . . especially in, arguably, the most meaningful RS game, league-wide, up to this point in the season.
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by Lunatic Fringe on Mar 8, 2011 8:55 AM EST up reply actions
It bugs me that penalties in the NHL get called differently in different situations… Why is hooking maybe not hooking just because it’s late in a game, or it’s an important game? Inconsistency in officiating trickles UP to inconsistency in supplementary discipline.
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I hear ya, but I guess my focus here is on the act as well as the timing. I mean the call of hooking, from what I could tell, was suspect at best no matter what part of the game it could have been called . . but combine that with the fact that it gave one team not only a PP but a 4 on 3 I think makes it a bit more of a questionable call.
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by Lunatic Fringe on Mar 8, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Hockey refereeing is so subjective a lot as well. Who even knows what interference is? ;)
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by capsyoungguns on Mar 8, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
Just glancing at the replay, it looks to me like MSL’s stick does contact Holtby, and he was driving the crease hard. Additionally, the refs allowed a ton of contact in front all game (Ohlund cross-checked AO to the ice several times, which is a play that often draws a whistle). Meaning the fact that he got tripped up by Laich was a non-call consistent with the rest of the of the calls in the game, in other words.
So while I thought the intereference call was one that could go either way, I didn’t think it was precisely a weak or soft call.
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We Caps fans feel a bit entitled to a call our way, but I appreciate their frustration. St. Louis was knocked into Holtby by one of our guys and nipped Holtby at best. Holtby was knocked off his stride for sure, but still a tought call.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 8, 2011 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
I’m feeling really sorry for those guys…Marty was definitely knocked into Holtby but he also had his stick and leg in the way of Holtby’s left leg and prevented him from being in position. It was a smart play by Marty but the ref was right on top of the goal and made the “correct” call.
If I were a TB fan, I’d be pissed too. But since I’m a Caps fan I say, “welcome to our world”.
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After the Philly playoff series, I have no sympathy for anyone complaining about goalie interference. Tampa Bay had plenty of chances to put that game away and didn’t do it (yeah, I’m talking to you Gagne) and it came back to bite them on the ass. To blame it on one play overlooks the fact that after the second period, the Lightning only got 7 shots on goal for the remainder of the game.
St. Louis was knocked into Holtby by one of our guys and nipped Holtby at best.
St. Louis skated directly through the crease under his own power, then tripped over Laich’s stick, causing both his own body and Laich’s stick to interfere with Holtby. Nobody pushed St. Louis into the crease. It was the right call.
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You have Caps’ lenses. I’ve no problem with that, but I don’t think the call was that clear.
The rule in general isn’t clear and is difficult to standardize.
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I don’t think it was a clear call, and I wouldn’t have been surprised if it was allowed. But I agree with D’ohboy that it was the right call. St. Louis was flying into the crease on his own. He did get taken down, but it wasn’t until he was already in the crease and he would have plowed into Holtby even harder had Laich not tripped him. By skating directly into the crease the way he did St Louis prevented Holtby from coming out and playing the shot.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 8, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
I also thought MSL’s stick made contact with Holtby’s leg right at the same time of the trip, so there was contact independent of Laich.
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I couldn’t see which stick it was clearly, but even if it’s Laich’s, it doesn’t end up in Holtby’s feet unless MSL is freight-training through the crease.
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MSL’s freight-training was actually pushing Laich’s stick (you can see it bend on the replay) and 9 times out of 10 he could have kept skating through without a problem. But it just so happens that he pushed the stick into the top of Holtby’s left pad so it was wedged between Laich’s hands and Holtby’s gear.
Think about what happens if you are running through finish line tape, at the speed of an NHL player crashing the net, and while it is initially giving way it abruptly goes taunt. That’s basically what happened as MSL hits it and falls over the stick, and the force of the impact shoves Holtby’s left leg backwards and knocks him off his feet.
The puck is still on Lecavalier’s stick as this happens, he doesn’t shoot until Holtby is going down with no chance to make a play.
part of me thinks the refs made the call because they’re weren’t going to let TB get away with running the back-up, particularly when the starter went down with an eye injury.
but a bigger part of me says “Ah, screw ’em!” and I don’t care why the call got made.
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That call was clearly a makeup call for the time Laich had a goal disallowed on a bullshit interference call in this game. What goes around…
Fleischmann with the “interference” on that one, if I recall correctly.
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Could’ve cost the Caps a playoff spot, really. What a shitty call.
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after the flyer’s series if any ref blows that call again I’ll jump up and down until my foot hurts and then post angrily on this blog cause that’s about how much power I have to change things.
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by Gould Old Days on Mar 8, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
First of all, if you are skating in the direction of the goalie AND in the crease, you are going to have to take it if you are nudged/pushed whatever into the goalie. The refs will wash that out every time.
That aside, the goal that I have in recent memory where we got completely jobbed was not the Knubs disallowed goal last year, but the goal they didn’t wash out vs. Philly three years ago. That one was BS to the highest degree.
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by alisterio on Mar 8, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This link will explain why Stamkos did not get choosen for the shootout.
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To be honest, Vinny’s attempt wasn’t much prettier.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 8, 2011 8:55 AM EST up reply actions
So let me ask you this: how would you have felt if Bruce picked Wideman as one of his shootout choices?
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by Rather Bengt on Mar 8, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
Awesome.
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by J.P. on Mar 8, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Who was BB’s third shooter scheduled to be?
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 8, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
does that qualify as a “Sasha Moment”?
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Where did Semin’s shot beat Rolo? I’ve watched it like 20 times now and still can’t tell. Was it 5-hole or glove side?
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by WordsOnIce on Mar 8, 2011 9:00 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Watching that reply again; what did Pierre say after Semin scored? "This guy’s been jumping through the gin? Or was it “jumping through the gym?” Either way…..huh?
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Did one of the announcers also say that Semin was playing with a lot of spunk last night?
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by Sombrero Guy on Mar 8, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Pierre did. so don’t take it seriously.
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I believe it was actually Dave Strader, the PxP guy.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 8, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
I thought five hole, but then I heard it might have gone in off a post?
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it rang the iron before going in. I heard that damn “PING!” and thought for sure that Semin had just missed.
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I think it hit the post in the center of the goal. I heard the same thing. Definitely went five hole right in the middle of the net.
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by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 8, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
On the disallowed goal: st Louis may not of come into contact and it didn’t really look like it on the initial replay however since they did not make a tripping call he was interfering by his position in the crease the shot came over him in that part of the crease and holtby couldn’t make the play. The interference rules do say this – that a player can interfere with the goalie if his position in the crease prevents the goalie from making a save or adequate effort was not made to leave the blue paint
If there was a tripping call it would of been a goal, but there wasn’t
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I donno about that. He was still interfering with the goaltender even if he was tripped. If they were calling it proper and there was a trip they would have gotten a power plan and a disallowed goal.
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And, he was definitely skating in the crease. Not a “half of the blade of Knuble’s back skate” in the crease, but a full “I’m crossing through” in the crease.
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0.35 (MarJo’s points per game so far through 54 games)
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0.67, Marcus Johansson’s goals per 60 of 5on5 time this season, 5th on the Caps (to go along with his 6th-ranked 1.44). With only 2.21 GFON/60 with Marjo on ice, he’s putting up points on 2/3 of the goals he’s on-ice for.
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by red army line on Mar 8, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
I definitely think I’m sold on MarJo. I wasn’t earlier in the season. Not that I would compare his talent to Stamkos, but he seems similar in that he was a highly touted player that didn’t seem to know wtf they were doing but halfway through the season they definitely starting to fit in.
He needs to get stronger on his skates, but the ability is obviously there. His pass over to Knuble last night should’ve been a layup, if only Knubs had been ready for it.
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Aye (though in fairness to MK22, it did seem to bounce on him a bit at the last moment).
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Skipped over his stick. Was most unfortunate.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 8, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
The thing I liked most about that play was that 90 showed the confidence to go for the extra move in order to generate a high quality chance. And then had the skill to make it work, of course.
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I’m not sold yet. His offense and faceoffs definitely needs work, which creates the problems of having to give him offensive zone draws so his FO losses don’t hurt, and then having a not-so-great offensive line out there for those precious Ozonestarts. But I’m liking his defense more and more. I haven’t seen mention of that great stick lift he did on Stamkos (maybe in OT).
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by red army line on Mar 8, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
I commented on that last night. It was definitely a fantastic play. Such a clean steal without taking a penalty.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 8, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
Not sold in what sense? That he’s going to be a legit impact player in the NHL or that he can be an impact player for us this season? I can buy the latter, not the former.
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by red army line on Mar 8, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
That’s fair. I think he’s been steadily improving but asking him to be a real help in the playoffs is a lot. I think he has shown that he has the tools and the talent to play in this league and produce. I think he’ll be a solid 2nd line player or a stud 3C.
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Great news to see his treatmetn is working and that he’ll be able to play next season. Here’s hoping this is the last of his circulatory issues (although now that it’s happened twice… )
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Very good news. Now if he can throw up a 30 goal season I can be happy for him and the Avs.
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by Gould Old Days on Mar 8, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Eh, I’d prefer him out there. He’s a guy who doesn’t fit the Caps, but fits the Avalanche very well. Otherwise there’s a logjam at his natural position on the ice. Same as Steckel.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 8, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
Say-men, duh.
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by red army line on Mar 8, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
didn’t that article last year about everyone’s names say that it was a misspelling in his passport and his last name is prounounced more like Varly’s first name?
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Syomin, like Syeh-min I think?
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by ThePeerless on Mar 8, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Rec’d for grabbing the rebound on that
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never been a huge monty python fan
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For each of those names, I have had at least two people tell me they know someone named that, whether personally or through a friend, relative, whatever.
Le-ah is a personal favorite to roll my eyes at though.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 8, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
*Magnolia Thunderpussy received votes even though her name had been INVALIDATED by the High Commissioner
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they are always a teacher or nurse in a maternity ward
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I got a bit of variety one time: a receptionist.
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I like when you tell them its BS and the instantly regress back to 3rd grade…“NahUh”
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At my school, these are all students in my classes.
Ty’Yhona, Kyjuan, Kashyra, Jameka, Damarko and Tyreck (tie-reek) are all real people.
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Some parents need the alphabet taken away from them.
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As someone who grew up with one of the most common names of my generation – always having to wait to make sure that they were referring to me and not the other four Barbara’s in my class – I say good for them.
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Plus, there’s something kind of unsettling about decreeing names ridiculous or made up just because they don’t fit our cultural conceptions.
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I think name diversity is great. I also think it’s not unfair to find some names funny, just don’t be a dick about it.
My mom worked in retail when I was really little, and this woman came into the shop where she worked. The woman’s name was Twyla Twatter. My mother carefully excused herself, went to the storeroom, and laughed until she could control herself, then went back out and, with a straight face, calmly helped the lady do her shopping.
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…and?
They’re names. Get over it.
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by PrincessPowerful on Mar 8, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
Hey there – I work my ass off at that school, am there from 730 am doing credit recovery til 630 – so you can keep your “get over it” to yourself. There was no “and?”- you can pretend that you know that I was being belittling, or condescending, or whatever it was that you were implying. Or better yet – send me an email, and come substitute teach in my classroom. Don’t bring any weapons though – have to pass through a metal detector. And when they tell threaten to take you out in the hallway, or call you a dumb b—tch, I’ll let you know how to reach them. Get over yourself.
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I ran a retail store years ago, and took a credit card for a gentleman named Te’quilla. Spelled like the drink, pronounced tay keyla.
It was sandwiched this morning on ESPN news between college basketball highlights and the umpteeth story about the Heat “crying in the locker room”. They’ve become as ubiquitous, and annoying, as Charlie Sheen.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 8, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
I hope they all get eaten by a Tiger.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 8, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
Here, take this...

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 8, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Their (lack of) hockey coverage aside, ESPN has become a bloated museum of what it once was. I REALLY miss the old SportsCenter of the late 90’s.
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by PaintDrinkingPete on Mar 8, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
I’m so sick of hearing about basketball ALL.THE.TIME. On EVERY SINGLE STATION THEY HAVE.
I think as of now, I’m swearing off everything ESPN, except for Simmons’ non-basketball work.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 8, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
One Shining Mullet....
…but at least ESPN has Barry Melr….no. I can’t type that without laughing….
Everything sounds smarter in Tikkanesse....
Let me guess, plays 9-5 and 1-3 were of a tall guy dunking a basketball.
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Hershey will release a list and Leone will post.
Highlights:
de Kastrozza and Rome on the CDR
as expected, Orlov, on an ATO, not required to be and not on the
Nycholat not on the CDR; assume that means he’s done for the season
2G: Holtby and Schaefer
6D: Collins, Fahey, McNeill, Miskovic, Souray, Wellar
14F: Aucoin, Bouchard, de Kastrozza, Gordon, Greentree, Joudrey, Kane, Kozek, Kugryshev, Lacroix, Perreault, Pinizzotto, Rome, Willsie
seeing de Kastrozza listed; reminded that he may have signed an SPC at one time, I was thinking he was still on a PTO
oops re. Orlov ‘not on the list’
more observations about the roster:
Bruess not listed, given his injury not shocking
IIRC, last year they listed 9D and 11F; circumstances are different this year; technically they have a number of dmen with Orlov on an ATO; Kroll and Yeo available if someone is injured, but they are committing to their top 7, essentially, and Miskovic is currently hurt
Also, of note, Godfrey is not listed on Chicago’s CDR, but given call-ups and injuries, he could still play for the Wolves.
Rechlicz isn’t on the list either. I don’t recall hearing that he was sent to the Rays. Is he hurt?
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Oh there are others not listed, I was referencing my earlier posts about the anticipated CDR, sorry about that. I would have been very surprised if Rechlicz, a fighter, was listed on the CDR given the forwards available.
in residence: Ford, Rechlicz, plus Yeo
plus injured players in residence: Bruess, Kroll, Nycholat, Sabourin
PTO: Carroll, Sarauer; Oreskovic (PTO and inj.)
Note – AHL vets in Hershey: Aucoin, Fahey, Kane, Souray, Willsie plus Nycholat
Leone tweets:
“Yingst said injury and vet status played roles in Nycholat being left off CDR.”
“No CDR spot doesn’t mean Nycholat is being shut down for the season, but the injury remains a question mark.”
Wow, that roster really is significantly worse than last year. I hadn’t really realized quite how much Hershey lost to free agency, to the Caps, and to injuries. Credit Yingst for being able to put up a credible roster despite all the losses.
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by Gould Old Days on Mar 8, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
That would require them to have a web presence that wasn’t designed by a 75 year old.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 8, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
how does this caps’ uptick compare to that of the league’s other surging teams, namely the Chicago Blackhawks, the Calgary Flames, the Boston Bruins, and the New Jersey Devils? The Caps have strung together a set of close wins, but there’s still a whole lot to work on. Even so, their winning streak inspires great confidence.
How does this winning streak compare to those of those other hot teams? Do those other teams still struggle with season-long problems, or are they making everything magically click?
Honestly, the Caps haven’t looked dominant. They’ve looked scrappy, emotionally tough, and shown occasional flashes of transcendent talent. But a ton of 1-goal wins doesn’t inspire confidence the way a ton of 3-4 goal wins does.
You can’t expect to win games when you can’t score in the 1st 55 minutes.
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last night they were showing highlights of the 8-6 Boston-MTL slugfest. It sure was fun watching teams score goals.
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If the Caps had anything close to resembling a competent power play the last three months, they’d be leaving the other teams in the East in their rear-view mirror. But in the salary cap era, you have a number of teams that are good, but with significant flaws. You don’t have a dominating team.
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Yeah, but the disconnect here has nothing to do with personnel, which the salary cap point implies, does it? The Caps flaws here are strategic/systematic (or is that systemic?), no?
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I think both explain it to a degree. As far as the personnel goes, the Caps had a lot of guys with career years last year. Backstrom and Laich in goals (although not PPG for Backstrom), Ovechkin was on a pace to hit a career high in points. I think they might be suffering some backsliding that has spilled into the power play. And whatever his other faults, the Caps have not replaced Tomas Fleischmann’s seven PPG last season. The Caps had four guys with > 10 PPG last season, three more with more than 5. This year, no one is on a pace for ten, and they would be lucky to get six players with five or more. Perhaps last season was just a case of guys doing better than expected followed by a year of worse than expected.
But strategy plays a role in this, too. The Caps have three problems, as I see it, on the power play. First, whether having Ovechkin on the point made sense last year at times is irrelevant this year. Teams have adjusted and have pushed him further out. He can’t score from where he is getting the puck and the top of the LW circle to the face off dot — from where he could shoot one-timers — has been taken away. The coaches have not adjusted to that fact. Second, the Caps aren’t getting shots through from the point. This might be a factor in their getting so few shots on goal when they do get power plays. There are few opportunities for second-chance or rebound goals. Third, even when the pucks get in close, there aren’t players getting in close with it. As has been pointed out elsewhere, Knuble’s mind seems willing, but the body isn’t responding. Neither Laich nor Fehr (when he’s been healthy) have consistently been able or willing to get in close.
And that’s pretty much what would make a power play work — not the “Disney on Ice” specatacle, but getting pucks to the net, crashing, and banging home loose pucks and rebounds.
Then there is the matter of the Caps just not getting chances. The lack of repetitions in game situations might be affecting them in ways they didn’t experience last year. 14 power play goals on 135 chances going back more than 40 games to when they last had two in a game. A 10.4 percent conversion rate is bad enough, but barely three opportunities a game? And 40 in their last 14 games (2.85/game)…only three conversions.
The power play is a mess, and there seem to be a lot of reasons for it that weren’t there early in the year when the Caps were 21-for-87 (24.1 percent) in their first 24 games.
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That was actually my thought last night. I can’t remember the last time the caps scored a PP goal like TB did last night. A simple shot, on net, from the point that either passes through a screen or gets tipped on the way in. The recipe seems so simple it is hard to believe that the Caps can’t follow it.
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But in the salary cap era, you have a number of teams that are good, but with significant flaws. You don’t have a dominating team.
This seemingly begs the question:
“Are the 2011-12 Vancouver Canucks going to be the second coming of the 2010-2011 Chicago Blackhawks? What if they don’t win the Cup after going all-in?”
I blame Schultz
OT: While the Hawks were still going to have to move some players due to cap issues, winning the Cup made the cap issues worse due to bonuses.
There was a League bonus and a Team bonus related to Toews winning the Conn Smythe. 1.3M from the Hawks definitely counted against the cap.
I think it doesn’t count against the cap but don’t have time to read that part of the CBA right now to confirm.
Not yet, I don’t think. Looks like forward turnover is all relatively unimportant players and on D, Hamhuis + Edler + Ballard will still be around. They won’t be as deep, but pretty good still, I think. I guess that’s what happened to Chicago too, but I don’t see any dumb extensions on VAN’s Capgeek page, and they also have Hodgson and Schroeder coming up.
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by red army line on Mar 8, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Holtby = this year’s Varlamov
At least a chance he takes over in the playoffs because of injuries or bad play (we know how quickly BB will change). Last night’s save was so reminiscent of Varly’s save last year against Crosby. Perhaps a foreshadowing?
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The funny thing is it looked like Varly was leaping to avoid getting run over by a truck.
Holtby was so calm. He was just like: Oh snap it’s gagne?. BAM!!! WHUT WHUT BITCH! I’m just gonna stand here!
I love how Holtby does with his glove — instead of pulling a Statue of Liberty on a glove save he’s awfully non-chalant about it.
I also dig Neuvirth crossing his body to make a glove save too, for that matter.
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Seriously though, based on Holtby’s on-ice antics, Roy would be a closer comparison.
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Roy? More like Hextall.
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He reminds me a little bit of Hex…though probably a little less spit-fire crazy.
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Extremely optional practice today:
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Know who’s missing from the ice? With the exception of Carlson (and the injured Green), everyone who’s currently associated with the Power Play.
Having a meeting, watching film? Please??
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everyone who’s currently associated with the Power Play.
Having a meeting, watching film? Please??
I doubt it.
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Why would they do that? The power play is working fine!
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 8, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Ovie was there. not on the ice, but at Kettler. Possible that other guys were as well and they were watching film. Bruce was no where to be seen on the rink this morning. I assume he was in the back somewhere.
also possible that they were all just screwing around in the back and not being productive at all.
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also possible that they were all just screwing around in the back and not being productive at all.
I like that option.
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- slated for a callin to NHL live at some point they just mentioned….
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Rumor Mill
This is 100% pure rumor, so don’t shoot the messenger. I heard from a Pens fan there are rumors circulating that Crosby has a broken vertebrae and bruised spine. I googled it and found some obscure posts on letsgopens.com that mentioned someone named Tim Benz spreading it (not sure who that is – a radio personality? – but people on that board did not think very highly of his opinion). And some other guy on that board saying he knows a doctor tied to Pittsburgh sports teams who confirmed it. Again, very speculative.
If true, I hope the best for Crosby…
TPB has posted that rumor on Twitter. Until we hear anything official, it’s all bullshit.
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If I was a conspiracy minded guy, I would say that it’s probably just a ploy for a “That’s Sidney Crosby’s music!” moment in game 1 of the playoffs.
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What would Crosby’s entrance music be? Something horribly bland, to be sure.
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The “Willis Reed” moment…team takes the ice for the opening faceoff, but only four skaters jump on. Just as the lights come up for the drop of the puck, out sprints Crosby to a thundering roar that causes bridges to crash into the Monongahela (yeah, I remember, Reed limped out onto the court).
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by PrincessPowerful on Mar 8, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
Who to sit on D?
I agree with the article that Carlznerson, Hannan, Wideman, and Green are all locks. I agree that Sloan isn’t in the equation. I’m sure you all heard me laughing at the repeated mentions of how important Poti is to the PK. The PK has been much better this year, and done it mostly without Poti. At the very least that should dispel how important he is to the PK. At this point I’d make Schultz the 6D and Poti the 7D, but if Schultz goes into a funk I wouldn’t have much hesitation putting Poti in for him. I don’t really trust that Poti can get healthy this year, so it’s probably moot.
Again, is there anyone that isn’t appalled by the Poti extension now? Anyone still really excited about it? Bueller… Bueller… Becca…
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I’m more perturbed that we still owe Erskine two years at 1.5
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 8, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Why? He’s actually played this year, and played well. He’s overpaid as well, but his cap hit is just over half of Poti’s. Considering how much more play we’ve gotten from Erskine and how much more impact Poti’s contract has on the cap, it’s an easy call for me. Even before Steckel was traded I had Poti as the worst contract on the team (though I wouldn’t have felt that way if he was still UFA).
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He’s never played this many games before and he’s running out of gas. Quickly.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 8, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
I still think, injuries aside, Poti’s an everyday defenseman. Erskine, for the most part, is not.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 8, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed, but I think Poti is more likely to cause us to not be able to re-sign Hannan. Erskine isn’t.
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Don’t disagree, but we’ve said all year he needs some rest to stay effective. He just hasn’t gotten that opportunity. Given what I expected from him, I’m happy with his play. But like I said, for me it comes down to absolute impact on the cap, and Poti undeniably has more.
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Erskine has has some pretty bad moments in the past few games. Fumbling the puck, allowing some 2 on 1s…
Poti’s injury-filled season is infuriating, but if he shows up in April, all will be forgiven… Until we can’t resign Hannon, that is.
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the erskine attempted keep-puck-in move
then the desperate scramble after he loses the puck, leading to an odd-man rush the other way…yeah, that’s become a regular part of every game. you can see it unfold as if in slow-motion, every time
by DonnieKnutts on Mar 8, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Unless someone gets hurt and can go on LTIR, Poti is going to have to stay on LTIR for the balance of the regular season, even if he gets healthy enough to play. So we’d be talking about running Poti out in the playoffs with no chance to work the rust out in the regular season. Schultz is going to have to be in a hell of a funk before I think that’s a good option.
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I think the decision gets easier when you divide the defense corps into two positions.
There’s the Puck Moving Right Handed Defensemen (PMRHD, pronounced “pommerhead”) – Green, Wideman, and Carlson.
Then there’s the Stay At Home Left Handed Defensemen (SAHLHD, pronounced “salad”) – Hannan, Schultz, Alzner, Poti, Erskine and Sloan.
Doing this demonstrates that the team actually has a glut of SAHLHDs. Now if you’re Boudreau, you have to build pairings made of one PMRHD and one SAHLHD each. Alzner goes with Carlson. You can play Hannan or Schultz with Green and you can play Hannan, Schultz, or Poti with Wideman. (You cannot play Green-Poti. Been there, done that, they don’t play well together). I’m partial to
Schultz-Green
Hannan-Wideman
Alzner-Carlson
But I can see why folks would want Hannan with Green and either Schultz or Poti with Wideman. I think any of those are reasonable.
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Obligatory “Bruce doesn’t like SAHLHDs”.
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Mar 8, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
Don't know what I like better...

The smiling on Holtby’s face, or the roaring bear head on the mask.
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Vinny’s sad face wins! it warms my little black soul.
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10 D in a season
At the beginning of the season, Peerless noted that you need 10 D to get through a year. With the addition of Wideman, the Caps have hit that number.
Green
JC
Alzner
Schultz
Erskine
Poti
Hannan
Wideman
Sloan
Fahey
Just thought it was an interesting little nugget. When we were looking down the depth chart at Pat McNeil (sp?) and beyond, it inspired a fair amount of gloom. With Hannan and Wideman in, at least that pitfall has been avoided.
I know the depth on D thing has been covered, so all due apologies to Becca/JP on that score.
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Not only are the Caps deep defensively, but when Green and Poti are healthy (heh), that’s probably the second best defense in the entire conference.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 8, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
I’m starting to wonder if Green makes it back this year at all, or if he spends the summer swapping non sequiturs with Crosby.
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The worst possible thing that can happen there is rushing Green back, and with Wideman, the need there isn’t as great. Makes you wonder if the Wideman acquisition was made with some further knowledge of Green’s injury.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 8, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know if anyone mentioned it yesterday, but Katie quoted Green saying he didn’t remember anything from the hit. So, I think there you go if you were wondering about a concussion. No matter how “mild” it might have been, I don’t want him in a game anytime soon, especially as even he says he’s not ready to go yet. Still, the fact that he’s skating means he’s way closer to returning than Crosby is.
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Vindication for yours truly. Everything about that hit screamed Green was concussed pretty badly.
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you’re probably not going to be so thrilled to find out he participated in the entire practice today. not that they skated hard.
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I’d go Flyers and then Pens for 1 and 2, myself, but it’s not bad.
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As long as the Penguins are consistently dressing Lovejoy and/or Engelland, I disagree. Flyers first, then Caps.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 8, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely like the bottom pair better on the Caps, but like the top-3 in Pitt a lot better…so I guess it just depends.
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I don’t know, man, it’s close. Letang/Orpik is better than the Caps’ top pair, but top-to-bottom, WSH’s is better.
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Letang is better than anyone we have right now. What a steal that contract is.
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I’m about the furthest you can get from a Mike Green supporter but I think when healthy, he’s better than Letang.
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In 2 years, I’d be willing to bet that Carlson is a better blueliner than Letang.
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A year ago I’d have taken that bet, but Letang has gotten real good this year. I still like Carlson long term but Letang is no joke.
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Yeah, right now I’m pegging him to finish 2nd in Norris voting.
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1st, Lidstrom? Shame, Letang really deserves it, I think (either that or Brad Stuart is much worse than I initially thought).
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by red army line on Mar 8, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
My “ballot”, as of right now:
1. Lidstrom
2. Letang
3. Suter
4. Weber
5. Chara
61. Byfuglien
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No Visnovsky or Yandle? Harsh.
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by red army line on Mar 8, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
In retrospect I’d put Visnovsky 5th, close to Yandle, I suppose, but I watch all the teams in the West with regularity, and no team relies on specific defenseman as much as DET does Nick and NSH does 6/20.
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I think the fact that 6/20 is a go to pair, as opposed to a go to player, hurts the chances for either to get enough love for a finalist nomination.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 8, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
I wholeheartedly agree and accept that.
Which is why I’ll settle for Rinne’s Vezina nomination.
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My ballot:
1. Lidstrom
2. Letang
3. Enstrom
4. Yandle
5. Staal
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 8, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Strange that you skipped 6-60 to list Buff. I would certainly have made him higher though probably not as high as 6.
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Letang’s only competition for young defenseman is Yandle, and as solid as Yandle is Letang is MUCH better. I just think Carlson has more upside — Letang is coming into his own, and Carlson likely hasn’t.
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Keep in mind that Letang is only 23. Caps took AO and Green in 2004, Pens got Sid and Letang in 2005. Huh.
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by red army line on Mar 8, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Letang is 23 and Yandle is 24 and they’ve played 200 games a piece so they’re comparable. Carlson is 21 and played half a season and some change, so he still has that corner to turn as those two did.
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Heh. I was thinking Pitt’s top 3 were Letang, Martin and Michalek, whom I like better than Green, JC and Alzner. I like Hannan, Schultz and Wideman better than Orpik, Lovejoy and Engelland.
You might be right, I’m notoriously wrong on these sorts of things.
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When you throw Hannan and Orpik into the top 4, I think it becomes closer but I’m with you, Pitt has a better Top 3/4 today. Our bottom pair is clearly better but on a team like Pitt (and like Philly last year) they’ll likely severely limit the the IT of that last pair when it counts.
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PIT’s top 3 is a little better right now, but the gap is way smaller than the gap between the teams’ bottom 3. The Caps blow PIT out of the water with those three. And given the importance of having three reliable pairings in the playoffs (PHI learned that lesson the hard way) I’d give the overall edge to the Caps for their depth. Being able to confidently give your third pairing 15-20 minutes a night and take the pressure off the top pairings is a huge plus come spring time.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 8, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
Ducks re-sign Luca Sbisa to a 4 year deal worth 8.7.
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Not a bad deal for either side. Sbisa is young and showing some promise so getting him for under 2.2 is pretty good for Anaheim. He’s had some stumbles on his path so far, but I think that by the end of the deal that contract is going to look like an absolute steal.
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My thought as well. I was surprised they got that kind of term on that number.
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He’s been sent to the AHL this year, so it’s not like he’s Cam Fowler. I guess he wanted some certainty and an immediate raise so he was willing to lock in.
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And let’s be honest – he’s not getting paid peanuts.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 8, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Gotta think that serves as a reference point in any Alzner deal.
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Lebrun just RT’d this:
Holy moly RT @BNHarrington Out 2nite in Pitt — Vanek-Roy-Hecht-Grier-Kaleta-Crosby-Malkin-Orpik-Comrie-Asham. Maybe Kunitz. Yikes.
That’s crazy.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 8, 2011 2:50 PM EST reply actions
I’d consider that a bigger yikes if most of those names (at least on the PIT side) hadn’t already been out for quite a while.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 8, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Ryan Miller wouldn’t be stupid enough to even think about fighting.
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Jordan Staal and Miller and Fleury.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 8, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Better than listening to either one of them.
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by gfcaps fan on Mar 8, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Noooooooooooooooo! Not Comrie!
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by Hang a Laingtern on Your Problems on Mar 8, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
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RT @MattPerl: In dupont, just saw #caps backstrom in hard cast. Not a good sign. @vogscaps
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Bears in Portland for a game tonight. Will have to see if they’re missing their newly-returned center.
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Said center (or anyone else) could easily play tonight and show up in DC tomorrow. It’s not that hard to get from Portland to DC.
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If they need MP85 there’s no way they’re letting him play an AHL game tonight.
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Just seems like it could happen. Of course, in theory it’s not like they won’t have sufficient notice to keep him out.
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Logistically, sure. But no chance he plays tonight and is here tomorrow. Either/or.
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If the Caps need him, no way they let MP85 tear an ACL in Portland
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I would assume if the really is in the cast he can on LTIR and free the Cap space for 85?
Or am I not understanding how that works?
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by RockinRed4Life on Mar 8, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
LTIR means he sits for 10 games/24 days. Don’t think you can make that call from a random tweet.
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Yeah, I just figured that if it IS true, he is likely out 10 games…casts are usually 4-6 weeks right?
Until I hear something official, not too worried.
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by RockinRed4Life on Mar 8, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
it depends entirely on the injury and the doctor. I’ve been in hard cast for as short as two weeks (twice!). On the other hand, I’ve known people in hard casts for 12 weeks.
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Yeah, they could LTIR him, in which case he has to miss 10 games or 24 days, IIRC. If he’s in a hard cast I suppose that’s the least he’d miss.
Or, never mind me.
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Although I do think (stress that I think) that if they do bring back MP, we’ll know they’ve had to LTIR 19. Don’t think they can do one without the other.
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Backstrom doesn’t have to be the one on LTIR, IF anyone needs to go on LTIR. Note, Green and Varlamov depending on their health situations are possibilities for LTIR.
I don’t think seeing him in a hard cast with no other information means much at this time. It’s possible they have him in a cast even for the short-term. Not saying it’s good, just saying don’t read too much into it; he’s a pro athlete, it’s a bit different than how we approach injuries.
It seems a little far-fetched, but would you put someone in a hard cast for two days or a week? (Oh, no, there goes that streak….!)
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because said person has this terrible habit of taking their soft cast off. not that I know that from first-hand experience or anything.
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For a pro athlete, it’s possible. Heck, it’s possible they put him in a cast for the trip back home until he saw a doctor.
What a life. :)
While I was going out on a limb there, I was also thinking that with an unlimited medical budget, if you simply wanted to keep the hand immobilized outside of game time, you might do that.
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sounds like 4-6 … AWESOME!
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More like “Can we fix it? Sure we can, but we’re fucking retarded so we’re going to keep using it until it’s even worse off.” Morons.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 8, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
And then we get...
@CapsNewsNetwork No independent confirmation of that last retweet yet, but I’m on the phone.
I get that players get recognized in public, but 1) there is no confirmation 2) what would it say about Bruce if he said that Nicky was fine yesterday, and he ends up in a cast? Doesn’t that just make him a liar?
Could just be someone looking for their 15 mins of fame…
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by RockinRed4Life on Mar 8, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
I think it was kind of irresponsible for retweeting that – these things spread like crazy because Twitter is so quick and easy. It’s how those fake twitter accounts on trade day could spread incorrect trade news so quickly. Haven’t we learned some caution by now?
I was wondering who @MattPerl was and if he was even remotely reliable.
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And this is why you don't retweet random people!
@MattPerl #backstrom seemed in good spirits, was with pregnant wife, didn’t ask questions
But of course people aren’t going to see whatever the heck this implies or means, they’re only going to see the other tweets.
You know, proper grammar is helpful, even on Twitter. I think the guy meant he was with his pregnant wife, so he didn’t ask questions.
Whatever the case…I think it was still irresponsible to retweet random things. We don’t know anything, and we shouldn’t even be having this conversation.
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by Hang a Laingtern on Your Problems on Mar 8, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Although it’s an interesting study at how much this has become a hockey town. Maybe it’s just Arlington, but I’m sure that Nicky isn’t use to being recognized in a non-hockey related setting. zGotta figure guys in Montreal, Calgary, etc. go through this sort of thing all the time.
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FWIW, the team orthopaedic surgeon is Dr. Ben Shaffer and he’s the guy Nick would be seeing for anything broken. His office is at 20th & K which is about 7 or 8 blocks from Dupont Circle. I suppose Nick could have walked up to Dupont Circle after his appointment and that’s where this guy Perl could have seen him, but I’m going to reserve judgement until I hear something official.
Matty Perreault is suiting up for Hershey in Portland tonight. FWIW.
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The guy also tweeted:
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@kcarrera #backstrom in hard cast coming out of doctors office in south dupont. Uh oh. #caps
Here he says South Dupont, which could fit the location of the doctor’s office, right?
Not in my definition of Dupont Circle. 20th & K is pretty firmly downtown. You’d never call that South Dupont. Granted, I last worked at 20th & K thirty years ago (yikes, I just hurt myself doing that math).
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I don’t really know that area so I have no opinion about it, other than I don’t think you can rule out the guy just due to the location factor. The address of the doctor’s office is about 7 blocks south of Dupont Circle.
7 blocks south of Dupont Circle is downtown or Farragut Square. Most of the buildings in that area are pretty nondescript and close together. Unless the guy was standing in the lobby of a medical building or in the corridor outside a doctor’s office — it would be pretty hard to tell that someone was coming out of a doctor’s office. And I think any Cap going to a doctor’s appointment would be going by car — whether taxi or someone driving them. I’d be very surprised if Backstrom would have been walking down the street after a doctor’s appointment long enough to be recognized, let alone long enough for someone to see a cast.
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Hrrrrrrm. MTL/BOS tonight. Who to cheer for?
Besides the meteor and a regulation winner, that is.
Also hoping for a long and hard-slogging game between EDM and PHI tonight…
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Holtby
So far? 5-2-2, 2.22 GAA .918 save %
If Take away the 5 goal game against NJ which led to Chucklegate , Holtby’s numbers are pretty impressive.
5-1-2 1.77 GAA .936 Save %. I know, I know, small sample size, mostly against non playoff teams etc. Still not bad for a call-up.
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by Sombrero Guy on Mar 8, 2011 3:27 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Gave you a rec for “chucklegate”. For Holtby’s numbers too…but mostly for chucklegate.
by mch on Mar 8, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Im a fan, but his shoot out performance vs NYR made me sick and I watched the Charlotte Checkers drop 5 on him from the glass on the goaline in Hershey
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B-Mo just has positive things to say about everyone (from Puck Daddy):
Brendan Morrison suffered an injury against the Chicago Blackhawks that might keep the Calgary Flames center out for the rest of the season. And he wasn’t happy to hear what the Blackhawks’ bench had to say as he left the ice: “What was a little disappointing was coming off and guys from the Chicago bench being a little disrespectful. That was uncalled for. But you do what you do and try and get off the ice. I don’t know if they understoood what was going on but some young guys on their team were standing up and yelling. I don’t think it’s very professional. But they’ll learn.’” [Calgary Herald]
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Mar 8, 2011 4:03 PM EST reply actions
Hershey news -
The guy who concussed Keith Aucoin gets a three game suspension and fortunately won’t be playing the next time they meet.
And the new guy the Bears just borrowed from the Chicago Wolves is suspended for two games and won’t be available tonight or Thursday.
http://theahl.com/ahl-announces-suspensions-p169910
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Man is Hershey hurting for players. Here’s to hoping they all get healthy soon…and that Nicky isn’t actually hurt so they can keep MattyP.
I like Laich, but I <3 Green
Keep the faith!!!!!!
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