Friday Caps Clips: Caps @ Sens Game Day
by J.P. on Mar 25, 2011 6:30 AM EDT
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- Previews of tonight's battle of nation's capitals from Vogs, NHL.com (Kreiser), Peerless, RtR and CRtC, and be sure to check out our SB Nation partner Silver Seven for more coverage from the other side of tonight's match-up.
- Notes and assorted whatnot (read: injury updates) from yesterday's practice. [Caps365 video (Boudreau, players), CSN Washington (video), CI (Carerra: here, here), DCEx (McNally), 106.7 The Fan (Kerstein), bridgetds (pics)]
- Mike Green may not play again before the playoffs (the bigger question, of course, is whether or not he'll be ready to go then). [WaPo (Carrera), DCEx (McNally)]
- On the goalies. [CW (Whyno), WaPo (Carrera)]
- Here in D.C., youth is being served. [WashTimes (Whyno)]
- Yesterday's radio hits:
- Brooks Laich on The Junks... [106.7 The Fan (audio)]
- ... and Dennis Wideman on LaVar and Dukes. [106.7 The Fan (audio)]
- Put another one in the Team Neuvy column. [Puck 'N Hockey]
- Actually, make that two. [Puck Daddy]
- Now this t-shirt? This is winning. [D.C. Sports Bog, The Pint Glass]
- Has there ever been a better fan sign than "Mike Green is my Autobot"? I think not. [RMNB]
- Taking a look at Dmitry Orlov from a fantasy perspective (with a healthy dose of reality thrown in). [Dobber Hockey]
- Patrick Wey is ready for a little pucks March Madness. [Boston Herald]
- And this year's winner of the prestigious Sam's Italian Foods Trophy... Samuel Carrier! [Sun Journal (with more on Carrier from the same source here)]
- Catching up with a couple of former Caps in the K. [Puck Daddy on Jaromir Jagr, RMNB on Chris Simon]
- Finally, happy 38th birthday to Andrei Nikolishin, happy 55th to Dwight Schofield and happy 56th to Ted Bulley.
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Bohvechkin
…is the Utz girl a puck bunny? Way to play to the fans in the B’more area.
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i’m hearing there will be a nice collection of caps fans at hudson st. stackhouse (canton) tonight. baltimore represent.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 25, 2011 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m planning on being there in time for the 2nd period.
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by Sombrero Guy on Mar 25, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of Hudston St Stackhouse, just saw this on facebook
http://hudsonstreetstackhouse.wordpress.com/2011/03/25/rock-the-red-party-stackhouse/
The Stackhouse lives hockey! And beer of course, so come out tonight and get warmed up for the playoff action soon to come. *Get to The Stack prior to the start of game time wearing your Caps jersey and enjoy your first draft on us.
HAPPY HOUR
$2 OFF ALL DRAFTS
MON – FRI OPEN – 7
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by Sombrero Guy on Mar 25, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
this actually has nothing to do with the caps. A guy (who happens to be a caps season ticket holder) bought the rights to the Natty Boh logo years ago (pretty cheaply i think) and started selling shirts and the popularity has taken off from there. There is a store in fells point that only sells Natty Boh apparel.
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by Sombrero Guy on Mar 25, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
so that’s how the Nattuy Boh logo suddenly started appearing on oriole-themed shirts. was curious about that.
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Yeah he make sure he doesn’t infringe on any actual trademarks. Just shirts that match the color of the team and “Boh Knows Baseball” or something like that
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by Sombrero Guy on Mar 25, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I noticed that with the “Bohvechkin” t shirt. The jersey says “Washington” not “Capitals”
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we’ll see. if both sides play this smart, maybe he sells the rights to that particular design to the Caps for a nice wad of cash.
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Smart move. With the resurgence of Natty Boh in the area, he stands to make a fortune.
Larger constellations burning, mellow moons and happy skies,
Breadths of tropic shade and palms in cluster, knots of Paradise.
Getting OT but I think he is part of the reason for the increase in interest. The shirts started taking off back in like 2004
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by Sombrero Guy on Mar 25, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
For example, during the All Star game I won the shooting accuracy competition. Chris Simon
I’m sorry. I’ve woken up into an Alternative Reality Universe. Going back to bed immediately . . .
Simon actually had a pretty accurate shot… the guy could hit spots in the net and hit them accurately. Somoene (Oates) had to feed him the puck. He did score 29 goals one season with the Caps skating with Oates, attesting to how great a player Oates was.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 25, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
In the autobots link, I couldn’t help but laugh at the picture that looks like Hendricks bullied that poor guy down. That damn dirty Hendy…hahaha.
Nothing warms my heart like Varly speaking english. He always seems so shy. Anytime there’s an example of him in all his Varlyness, I dissolve into mush.
by redpezrocket on Mar 25, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
“Cleek on me”
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by capsyoungguns on Mar 25, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I am Varly BEEEEP!
"Hockey is my life, wine is my passion." -- Igor Larionov
by Scott in Shaw on Mar 25, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I was one of the participants at the clinic last week. Hendricks was ran the most uptempo drill, and had no problem making his point by planting any one of us. He also didn’t take less than full effort well. We were expected to get into the corner and battle. It was the most eye opening drill, and great fun. Hendricks was just as great a guy about the whole thing as you could have hoped.
The entire clinic was a blast. I’ve been meaning to put a fanpost together about it. Since it’s been mentioned in the links a few times, I think I’ll get on that this afternoon.
Hendy totally looked at ease in the coaching gear. (From the pictures, I wasn’t there.)
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I think Hendy could have a future in coaching. In some ways, Hendy’s career reminds me of Bruce’s before he started coaching.
by redpezrocket on Mar 25, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Not that they’re mutually exclusive, but the latter.
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J.P.,
Don’t know if you can edit comments, but there are unnested <strong> tags in NJNJ’s post. Properly nesting them will fix the site.
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Mar 25, 2011 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I tried to close them in other comments (since I can’t edit them), so I’ll just delete the offending comment. Peerless will have to re-post Schlitzy.
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Thanks, JP, my cataracts were starting to bother me.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 25, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
A day without Schlitzy is a day...well, whatever
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by ThePeerless on Mar 25, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
Jeff Schultz is rockin’ a Mona Lisa smile, there. He looks slightly amused, but… also not.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 25, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Schlitz and a cheese sandwich?
Jeff Schultz, always adding to his +/- total.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 25, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions
This is going to look bad, but here are the subtle changes needed:
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to
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Mar 25, 2011 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions
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Related – has a hockey team ever, collectively, had worse hair than these guys?
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The blue one with orange on the side of the head might be the worst.
Matt Bradley: He has sensitive skin, no?
That’s a pretty big WTF right there…
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m trying to get past the pink shirt and pink tie. If it’s part of a Susan G. Komen Race for the Cure thing, that’s good. If it’s a fashion choice? Go back and do it again.
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Wait, he’s wearing a tie? I thought that was a smock.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Mar 25, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Lewiston has never really struck me as a hawk and dye kind of city (I go to school here).
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 25, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I meant that more as a… “there isnt much to do in Lewiston” type of thing. Probably even more so for young hockey players. I mean the closest city (if you even want to call it that) is Portland, and there isn’t much to do there either.
I actually think Portland’s really fun. But yeah, Lewiston isn’t exactly the most happening urban center.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 25, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I really like living in Portland, but it can get a little old after a while.You can only go to the same places in the Old Port for so long. I do miss going to as many Capitals/Nationals games as I used too. The Pirates and the Sea Dogs help make up for it, but that only goes so far.
There is a lot to do elsewhere in Southern Maine, however, so you can keep it fresh. You just have to get creative. Oh, and the beer, can’t forget that. I think we may be getting OT though…
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Mar 25, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I have not. Most of my winter is taken up by club hockey. And by the time it’s done it’s starting to warm up (albeit ever so slightly).
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 25, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Me neither, I played a little shinny this winter near Scarborough High School but that has been about it.
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Mar 25, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
In related news, Gregg Drinnan highlighted a quote from one of Eakin’s teammates:
“We’ve all been frantically trying to dye our hair (black) the past couple of days to get everything in place, and we’ve told all our girlfriends that we’re not going to be talking to them for a while because we’ve got business to take care of."
F Matt Fraser, 20, who told Matt Coxford of the Cranbrook Daily Townsman
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by ThePeerless on Mar 25, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeesh, there’s even a neck tattoo in there. Hey, Kirill, you forgot to not do that.
Release the Mackan!
by Killer_Carlson on Mar 25, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice to see Carrier doing so well. For a very (emphasis on very) crude comparison, Carrier and his D partner were +40 and +41, respectively, during the reg season. The team was +42, and the third leading +/- player was +23. Looking at another guy who was drafted as a power play QB with upside, Josh Godfrey, in Godfrey’s same junior eligibility year (I think) he was a -2. The team was +8 and the team leader, a +14. Carrier’s team was better than Godfrey’s, but both made their respective playoffs (Carrier’s in the Q, Godfrey’s in the O).
Again, a very crude comparison but stil nice to see Carrier’s development relative another similary-billed prospect. And the best thing is Carrier was a 6th round pick, Godfrey was a 2nd.
by Dirk Dangler on Mar 25, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Nice to see Mackan included in the Puck Daddy fantasy list with Neuvy at the top. Our rookies are a solid group.
Oh and I loved RMNB’s piece on “Green is my Autobot”. I’m a sucker for those heartwarming stories of the Caps engaging with the fans.
"Hockey won’t hold still for a portrait. To gain a glimpse inside you join it in progress—just as the players do."--epilogue of 24/7
You saw Russ Thaler’s piece last year, I assume?
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Mar 25, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Link? I don’t remember offhand.
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by capsyoungguns on Mar 25, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Found it (the Internet is an amazing place). It’s the piece on Ovi being super nice to his son last April at the low ebb of his professional career? Well worth the read. We have a great group of guys from the top down.
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by capsyoungguns on Mar 25, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Green is my autobot?
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by Sombrero Guy on Mar 25, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
nevermind, figured it out. The photo didn’t load the first time I clicked the link
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by Sombrero Guy on Mar 25, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
DGB knocking it out of the park, as always
May, 1993 – Dale Hunter receives a 21-game suspension for viciously body checking Islanders’ center Pierre Turgeon in mid-celebration. While the suspension seems harsh, it’s worth pointing out that Turgeon’s celebration was taking place in a quiet corner of a romantic restaurant and was for his wedding anniversary.
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Mar 25, 2011 9:23 AM EDT reply actions
another great one
November, 2009 – The league suspends defenceman Chris Pronger for six games after announcing that, according to a league spokesman, “we haven’t heard from him in a while and he must have done something”. An outraged Pronger maintains his innocence to reporters gathered in the dressing room, before awkwardly refusing to answer questions about the human femur poking out from his locker.
LET'S GO CAPS!!!
Beat me to the post. The femur is a nice touch.
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by capsyoungguns on Mar 25, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
morning, all! I was hoping for some movement in the East, but it was not to be. With Pittsburgh and Boston both winning last night, it looks more and more like the top 4 are set, although 1 & 2 might flip. The real battle is going to be 5-6-7. Out West, 4-8 continue to be a battle with Dallas and Calgary in 9-10 and within striking distance.
EAST
Philadelphia vs. Buffalo
Washington vs. NY Rangers
Boston vs. Montreal
Pittsburgh vs. Tampa
WEST
Vancouver vs. Anaheim
Detroit vs. Chicago
San Jose vs. Nashville
Phoenix vs. Los Angeles
if you’re curious, Vancouver is the overall #1, followed by Philly, Washington has clawed their way to the third-best record. Detroit and San Jose are tied for 4th.
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They should a graphic on the Pens broadcast last night that I think showed the Caps were only seven points behind where they were on the same day last year. Looks pretty impressive, but the season ran a week longer last year because of the Olympic break. Still, not too shabby.
Don’t try to figure Sasha out. Just ride the wave.
On March 24 last season, the Caps were 49-14-10 (108 points), compared to 43-21-10 on March 24th this season (96 pts).
Note, though, that last year on that date the Caps had played 73 games compared to 74 this season.
Have to wonder about their graphic.
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by ThePeerless on Mar 25, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m hoping that the Rangers continue their hot play and move past Montreal and Tampa Bay. Ideally, I’d like to see the Bolts slip to 7th but with those two games in hand, that’s probably unlikely. After watching Montreal last night, I’d take my chances against them vs the Rangers any day of the week. Beating the Habs on Saturday will help.
I thought that, too, about the Habs. The only thing I’d worry about that – didn’t they crap out at the end of last season to fall to 8th? Still, I think the Caps have played them far better this season than last season, so I wouldn’t be as worried this time. I think.
Don’t try to figure Sasha out. Just ride the wave.
I thought the Habs were a rather mediocre team all season? They played Toronto for their last game of the season and had Toronto won, the Habs would have been in 9th, regardless of the outcome of the Philly-Rangers game that eventually went to SO.
damn Toronto.
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Why was MTL the team one team we didn’t want to face last year in the playoffs, but this year it seems that’s who we do want to face? And aside from the obvious drubbings at the hands of Rags, what is it about them that causes the Caps so much grief?
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We couldn’t solve the Canadiens during the regular season last year, and had no answers for them in the postseason either.
This year, the Caps’ new approach to, well, everything, has worked better against the Habs. Not perfect, but better. Also all their best defensemen are out long-term, which helps.
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last season, it seemed like the Habs were the team that had the Caps figured out. I’ll hold off on any declarations of that being reversed until after the upcoming game, but the Caps seem to have figured out the Habs thus far.
Also, the Caps seem to be peaking, while the Habs look like the massive amount of injuries and Price’s heavy workload are catching up with them.
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Why was MTL the team one team we didn’t want to face last year in the playoffs,
I don’t remember this sentiment being widespread before the playoffs at all.
There were quite a few people who thought that. I was one of them, for the same reasons RB and Emily put above.
Matt Bradley: He has sensitive skin, no?
I was a very early anyone-but-Montreal advocate. very early. We only beat them once in regulation (the game that AO became Captain), and we struggled in every game. Plus the Theo factor, plus Montreal’s intimidadting barn, etc. etc.
Just had a real bad feeling.
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Look at the games Montreal played against the Caps in the regular season…
Game 1: MTL 3 @ WSH 2 That was a 2-goal lead for MTL until a late Laich goal
Game 2: WSH 4 @ MTL 3 (SO) MTL came back from a 2-goal deficit to take a lead before Fehr tied it with 12 seconds left.. Backstrom got the only SO goal.
Game 3: @ WASH 4 MTL 2 Canadiens closed to a one-goal deficit before Semin got an insurance goal with just over 2 minutes left
Game 4: @ MTL 6 WSH 5 (OT) MTL led at one point 5-2; Caps scored 3 in third period to tie before Plekanec won it in OT; snapped Caps 14-game win streak
Montreal had no fear of playing the Caps. The same could be said of the Rangers, who won the last three games in this year’s series by a combined 14-1 score (not including SO goals).
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by ThePeerless on Mar 25, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Barf… I’m starting to slink back into “It doesn’t matter who we play! There are no easy matchups! We could beat anyone or lose to anyone!” territory.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Just remember that every little advantage helps.
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by red army line on Mar 25, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I recall while looking at our potential match ups with 2 or 3 games left I didn’t want in order Phi, Mtl, Bos, Nyr. I was really routing for the Rags to beat the flyers in that shoot out too :S
Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."
Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.
a lot of us wanted nothing to do with Montreal. They were the team the Caps matched up with least favorably. Bruce expressed those same feelings.
Of course “least favorably” was taken to mean “Caps might need 6 games to beat the Habs instead of 4 or 5 for every other team.”
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I do know a number of Caps fans who were happy when the Flyers beat the Rangers, because then we wouldn’t be facing them. I was pissed about it, personally – because that set up the Habs matchup.
Matt Bradley: He has sensitive skin, no?
I wasn't.
We had an answer for the Rangers.
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by EmilyB on Mar 25, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
I will rec this picture every time….
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 25, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Related, a fun stroll down a similar discussion last year.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 25, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Joe Corvo>>>>>>>>John Erskine
Man, that’s rough.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Part of me thinks that Lundqvist is the goalie I’d least like to see the Caps face in April. But then again, Carey Price has played pretty damned well this season, too. So who knows…
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I figure Lundy’s due for his annual spring meltdown in a couple of weeks. Price already seems to be in the midst of one. Last night as just embarrassing.
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Lundquist has worked very hard this year, and with Biron out there probably won’t be a respite down the stretch.
But Carey Price may be the goalie most likely to have a spring fade.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Mar 25, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s still possible that PIT could give Philly a run for the Atlantic division title.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I have to wonder what Pittsburgh is going to have left in the tank in April. Of their last 16 games:
- Nine of them have gone to extra time
- Ten of them have been one-goal games
- Three of their wins have been in regulation time
Their wins/losses break down like this:
- Eight wins: 3 regulation/2 OT/3 SO
- Eight losses: 4 regulation/3 OT/1 SO
And they are scoring fewer than two-and-a-half goals a game over those 16 games.
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by ThePeerless on Mar 25, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
They seem to be playing terrific defense. Either that, or you can say the Flyers just didn’t show up last night. Watching the game, I was wishing they could play to four overtimes and wear each other out. Because it looked like that would have happened if it had been a playoff game. OTOH, PIT dominated the OT, so who knows?
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The Pens have been playing superb defense and have gotten fine goaltending. And hard as it is to say, one has to admire their grit in the face of crippling injuries (how would the Caps fare if they lost Backstrom and Ovechkin for a third of the season?). But they play so close to the margin, it is hard to see how they win four games, four times, especially since a lot of their recent fortune is a product of something that isn’t going to be there for them in the playoffs — shootouts.
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by ThePeerless on Mar 25, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
ideally, I’d love to see them face that struggling Tampa squad, and then face the Caps in round 2. That would be about the most favorable match-up I can imagine.
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As much as it kills me to say it, The Penguins have done a remarkable job since Malkin and Crosby went down. I’m not sure too many teams could acomplish what they have with their top two players out.
I said it last week or earlier this week, the Pens have been playing without 1 or 2 of their top 3 players all season. Staal missed most of the beginning of the season, Malkin missed some chunks early and now the knee injury, and Crosby went out right around the same time as Staal got back. I think all 3 of them have only played in 1 or 2 games together this season (with the WC being one of those).
What that means is they’ve been adapting to playing without a 2C all season and guys have stepped up and developed into the role, just like Marcus has, they’ve just rotated who’s been that 1C with a little bit of healthy Malkin sprinkled in there. It’s not like they’ve had all 3 healthy and then lost Crosby and Malkin without having anyone to fill in. Staal’s not as good as Crosby, but he got healthy right when Crosby was injured so there’s been almost no drop-off
LET'S GO CAPS!!!
I got a question and I’m not being snarky. If the Pens can play this well without Crosby, what does that do to the claim of him being the most valuable player in the league?
This doesn’t really answer your question, but Dan Bylsma is one heckuva hockey coach.
"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.
by Chris Burton on Mar 25, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
He’d be my front runner for the Adams.
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by ThePeerless on Mar 25, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Can’t say I disagree considering that Boucher/TBL have struggled so much.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 25, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
The same thing it says about the Caps that they have the record they do with 3 young goalies, with so many rookies playing so many key minutes, with so many big name players missing so many games due to injuries, with Ovie having such a “down” year… that just like CB said, the coaches are doing a helluva job preparing the team with the assets they’ve got and that the GMs have done a great job stocking talent in the minors
LET'S GO CAPS!!!
Ehhh, the whole “most valuable” thing really isn’t given as much credence in the Hart Trophy discussion as “who scored the most goals and points”, unfortunately.
Bottom line, if Crosby scores 1.6 points per game all season and no one else cracks 1.2, he’s the unanimous MVP, no matter how well his team is capable of playing without him.
DC’s strong play without Ovechkin didn’t hurt him very much in last year’s MVP voting. It was Sedin’s Art Ross win, IMO, that put him over the top.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think they’ve played THAT well without him. I think they’re something like 13-9-3 or something, which is playoff hockey, but nothing astonishing.
As much as many people are loathe to admit, Fleury has played really well this year (since the first month when he was stinking it up).
Those series in the West would be fantastic theater. I don’t want to play San Jose, but it’d be great hockey, as would the other three matchups.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 25, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
If you look at who’s playing well and who’s not, I think there’s a good likelihood that Montreal slips down to seventh and the Rangers move up to eighth. The Rangers have 7 games remaining, 85 points and have 15 points in their last 10 games, whereas Montreal has the same number of games remaining, 87 points, and 10 points in their last 10.
The two teams also have pretty equivalent schedules: they play Washington, Atlanta, @Carolina, @New Jersey, Chicago, @Ottawa, and @Toronto in their last 7, while the Rangers play @Boston, @Buffalo, @Islanders, @Philadelphia, Boston (at home), Atlanta, and New Jersey (arguably, New York’s is harder because they play the division-leading Bruins twice). That being said, New York is also one of the best road teams in the NHL, and have gone 22-14-1 on the road this year. In the end, a slumping Montreal team and a fired-up Rangers team could end up switching spots.
you mean Rangers move up to 6th, right?
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Ahhhhh
The Philly/Pens game had the worst outcome possible… a 3 point game with a win by the kings of the gimmick.
Notnecessarily. Teh Flyers got only the one point and gave up a game-in-hand.
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Pissed me off… Pitt had half a dozen opportunities to put the puck in the net during regulation. That should never have gone to OT.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Bob was good last night. So I guess he’s just… inconsistent. Whaddya know?
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He was also treated kindly by the goalie’s best friends. At least two pucks hit iron in the first period.
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by ThePeerless on Mar 25, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
More than once after that, too. The announcers in the 3rd, after Letang pinged one off the crossbar: “ANOTHER crossbar?!?!”
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Bizarrely he got the #1 star despite being the losing teams goalie…I know the stars don’t matter much and are entirely homeristic but really? #1 to a losing goalie?
Suspend Colin Campbell!
Someone said that the 3 stars are due in with 5 mins left in regulation… If true, it would explain it. Bob faced many more quality chances than Fleury.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
One of the BSH guys, although I can’t remember which one. I’m a little surprised they went with Bob and not “Game Winner” as they did on Tuesday, which is how Semin ended up #1.
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Well, I think they were assuming that the “Game Winner” was Briere at that point… It ended up looking silly. I might also have gone in a different direction after a ridiculous “3 Stars” like that one.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Backstrom was probably the best Caps player in that game, and they thought Philly had won the game, so it went with 2 Flyers, 1 Cap.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I think OT/SO made it the worst outcome possible by benefiting both teams. And I’m tired of this point-inflation! Everytime a OT/SO point is created out of thin air, the value of regulation winning points is diminished! ;-)
by _Skullduggery_ on Mar 25, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Remember, both Washington and Philadelphia finished 2-0-2 in their season series
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by ThePeerless on Mar 25, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Schofield...
I remember this guy since he was pretty much the Caps enforcer my first year in DC. Played in 50 games and managed just 13 shots on goal (according to the hockey reference) But he did manage to pot one of them… Gotta love the 1980s….
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Mar 25, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
and welcome :) I see you’ve brought an avatar with you! excellent.
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That's Erik Karlsson pointing at Matt Cooke :D
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by Adnan on Mar 25, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
So who do you think the Sens will trade Spezza to for them to win the Cup?
/snark
Seriously… welcome! We’re usually pretty nice around here. Just watch out for porcupines!
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 25, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
You guys can have him for the low low price of Alexander Ovechkin!
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Sorry… Ovechkin’s getting married to Taylor Swift and getting traded to Nashville…
We have evidence this might happen…
;-)
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 25, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Welcome, Adnan. Would appreciate it if you could keep Craig Anderson’s agent away from our FA boys. Don’t want to put any silly notions in their heads.
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4 years was a bit long yes? :/
But at least there was no NTC, that’s kind of huge seeing it is a Bryan Murray contract.
Also Karlsson > Carlson.
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by red army line on Mar 25, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
A couple more games like the New Jersey one, and he might be a bit crazy to…
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
No relation.
/Joe B’d
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Mar 25, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Joe Benanati, the Cap’s TV PBP guy, loves to talk about guys with the same last name and then add, “no relation.”
So he’ll talk about Jeff Schultz for the Caps and Nick Schultz for the Wild and then say, “no relation.”
It’s a great drinking game during the broadcast (take a drink every time he does a “no relation” during the broadcast).
Provided, of course, your intent is to get hammered during a game…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 25, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s just headache inducing and shouldn’t be allowed. ;)
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The worst was in the 1980s when there were 2 players name Greg Adams in the league. The Caps had one of them (the less skilled-more hard working one) for awhile. At one point for about a season Vancouver had both of them on their roster.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 25, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe B is out play by play guy. Whenever two guys on the ice have the same last name, or even sounds like the same last name, Joe B will say “Karrlson, no relation to Cap’s John Carlson” at least three times per game.
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Green/Greene.
Sigh.
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When he says it about players whose names are not spelled the same, I kind of want to scream. Take it easy, Joe B… Move on to something else, like letting us know which of the players on the ice is a “former property” of the other team.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
It could be worse
Our guy, Denis Potvin, routinely says “Panthers” instead of “Senators” because he used to broadcast for the Panthers.
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I used to get a lot of TV time on Florida broadcasts, because Potvin and the play-by-play guy would always do the intro segment from the loge section at VC when Panthers were in town. I sat in front row, right behind them. Got a lot of game insights from Potvin and liked reading his notes over his shoulder.
Was often tempted to say, “Bengt sends his best.”
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He is a healthy scratch tonight.
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Mar 25, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I think there is a section in the NHL rulebook that says whoever is calling the Canucks games has to mention at least four times a game that the Sedins are brothers. This bothers me a lot more than Joe B. specifying that Karlsson is not Carlson, and Green is not Greene.
by redpezrocket on Mar 25, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
So…freaking…creepy.
Sunrise, sunset, swiftly fly the years. One season following another, laden with happiness and tears.
Almost as creepy as:
“Henrik, this year I think you should win the Hart Trophy.”
“OK, Daniel, but next year I think you should win the Hart Trophy.”
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Henrik got tired of Mama Sedin telling him to share.
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Mar 25, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually want the Sedins to leave the Canucks just so we can see what other teams will give to have both of them. They’ll never split up…it’s a package deal.
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Someone….anyone… please post the RAHJC74 GIF here….
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 25, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
no look shot
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Who is the goalie?
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Martin Jones….brought in in the 3rd
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tyvm
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Martin Jones was the goalie for teh calgary hitmen last year, and gave up nearly the identical goal to the Brandon Wheat Kings, in overtime, in the game that decided who would advance to lose to Windsor in the Memorial Cup Final.
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So, who’s buying what @kcarrera is selling with regard to Green having been concussed by the puck to the head?
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 10:37 AM EDT reply actions
Was there ever a doubt? I mean, you get hit on the head by a hard piece of rubber traveling 90 mph, the odds are your brain’s going to get mushed around.
Yes, there is huge doubt: Compression trauma (which is what happens when you blast a puck into somebody’s ear) to the inner ear and tympanic membrane often causes Virtigo, headaches, Tinnitus (ringing in ears), and a host of other symptoms. All are also symptoms of a concussion. However, the two are not mutually inclusive, and also where he got hit on the head makes the concussion far less likely.
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I don’t remember what the actual injury looked like, but if there was enough rotation caused by the impact of the puck, that alone can cause concussion (as well as inner ear trauma or intracranial bleeding. It’s pretty horrifying to think about the amount that can go wrong and how much risk hockey players accept).
Dingos are involved. Best not to ask.
totally agreed, that it could have been worse. I am very doubtful about that particular shot causing intercranial bleeding. He’d have had a subdermal hematoma for sure, and there’s no way to hide those. Your scalp just sort of protrudes like the world’s largest cowlick. If that had happened, there’d be no chance he’s back in the game in less than a week.
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I would buy it. I don’t think they would publish a story such as that without being pretty confident with their sources…at least, I would hope not. Cleary sources can sometimes be wrong or not have the access they claim to have. Given the seriousness of concussions and the focus the NHL is placing on such injuries, i would think their sources would be pretty inside…like, inside the locker room.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 25, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
She didn’t “publish a story” about Green’s injuries… She just threw a single phrase into a Mike Green injury update. “a pair of concussions”. And she did it the morning after getting snippy and defensive about this exact issue on Twitter.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
The story was posted yesterday at noon. Its on the Washington Post web site (not sure if it made the print edition today). I’d consider that “published” for all intents and purposes.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 25, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, I wasn’t taking issue with the word “publish”. More that, it wasn’t some deeply researched and well-thought-out story that went into the injury issues in depth. It was just a throw-away line, and one that really doubt underwent significant vetting or saw attention from an editor.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I have no doubt it is possible, and I also have no doubt that it is possible that she is just jumping to that conclusion on her own and writing it as fact. If she’s right I think it’s by luck.
This is precisely where I stand on this issue. She went from saying that Green had “concussion-like symptoms” at the time, to now claiming it was a concussion. And I’ll eat my hat if the team or Green said anything to her about it.
I’ve never been a big fan of hers… And this just grinds my gears.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not a fan, eithe. I don’t care if everyone thinks it’s true that he has a concussion, and throws out “concussion-like symptoms” with a wink and a nod. The team hasn’t confirmed it so it is irresponsible to report it as fact.
by redpezrocket on Mar 25, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
But then we’ll just complain that all we get are “unconfirmed injury” reports. The team never admits anything.
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My point is that a reporter saying so isn’t the same as confirmation. So even if she says “concussion” like it’s fact, it’s still not because the team hasn’t made it known as fact.
by redpezrocket on Mar 25, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Disagree with your interpretation of “fact”. Only God and a few medical personnel might know whether Green meets the current guidelines for concussion, but the fact that they decline to share that information does not make it any less factual. Similarly, just because the team issues a statement does not make that statement fact.
At some point, the evidence becomes so strong (or commonly accepted) that something is widely accepted as fact.
If he did, then obviously Green does not have a concussion and whoever asked him should check their back pocket for their wallet, too.
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Mar 25, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
No. He said that they were being cautious because he was suffering headaches when the reporters asked him if Green had a concussion. He didn’t deny it but neither did he confirm it. The reporters drew their own conclusions and now I know why GMGM says as little as possible. It will be parsed and reinterpreted no matter what he says.
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by capsyoungguns on Mar 25, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Hit in the head, suffering headaches; it’s not that far a jump to assuming it’s a concussion.
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Yes, but a reporter should say unconfirmed or some such. For the record though I don’t mind her. She’s young and learning, still building up her contacts, and posts a lot.
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by capsyoungguns on Mar 25, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
http://video.capitals.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=0&id=100417
8:15 or so
He said “yeah….he’s had some headaches” when Carrera asked if Green suffered a concussion “or some other injury.” The “or some other injury” was mumbled and so I missed it when I heard it the first time.
Thank you. This is all she would have had to point to also.
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Mar 25, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s a pretty far leap from that to “he suffered two concussions”.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Specifically caused by the puck to the head? Because no one is questioning the Stepan concussed Green.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Do you think it’s possible that, between initially saying it was “concussion like symptons” and now saying “concussion”, she may have gotten additional information that it was indeed a concussion in the first place?
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 25, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve said this before that I think there’s a chance he got a mild concussion with the Orpik hit, but who knows. NHL teams aren’t really that forthcoming about injuries, and maybe if it had happened last week instead of two months ago, there would’ve been more openness.
However, Carrera talking about it in print like that seems a bit irresponsible.
@JapersRink For the record, I’ve called it a concussion the whole time and will continue to do so because that is what the injury is.
I’ve never met here or looked at her tweets much besides the ones posted here, but she comes across a bit bitchy in this one.
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Did anyone ask Katie Carrera, M.D. when she examined Green or got a doctor’s explanation that it occurred? I only ask because, she is, you know, a journalist. So a) she should not be making medical diagnoses or b) she should be able to source whoever did.
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Mar 25, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly, which is why we know she’s full of shit. The press is free to print their opinions… But we hold them to a higher standard than this.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. When there is a police stand-off and the guy shoots a person while being taped by 7 news crews, it’s still “alleged shooter” this and “alleged shooter” that. I’m not saying she is wrong, I’m asking for some evidence. Not a snappy comeback about “it is what it is”.
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Mar 25, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that’s more for legal issues. The shooter was not convicted in court, so his quilt is still in question.
Examples from politics, business, etc. abound. I am not asking for definitive information about the extent of Green’s injury (though that would be nice to attain, I don’t fault her for not providing that 100% because of the club’s tight-lippedness). But her job is to report facts about the team, and to supplement that with other information. Claiming he has a concussion while providing no evidence is not sufficient. Responding to requests for clarification by simply stating that it is a concussion essentially means she is the one who is coming to that conclusion, not any reputable medical professional or team spokesperson, which means she is a fucking opinion journalist at that point. Because that’s what it is — her opinion, which she will not even qualify as such.
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Mar 25, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
The nhl website also has green listed as injured for tonights game with concussion in () next to his name.
I thought it was pretty obvious from the get-go that he had a concussion. Its been called a concussion by numerous sources (including NHL.com and Versus) since the injury. Whether its a concusion, concussion-like syndrome, compression syndrome, whatever the hell, I am not sure it makes any difference to us as fans. His path of recovery and his ultimately return are uncertain and unpredictable in any event.
I think you’re being a bit too harsh here. You’re questioning her source but there’s a good chance she actually has one.
Simply repeating what someone else said doesn’t make it true.
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by J.P. on Mar 25, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Perhaps. But if that is what all these outlets are doing (and I am not sure it is), then Katie is no more “irresponsible” than they are.
Just because a lot of people are doing something doesn’t make them individually less guilty of it.
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Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.
That’s fine. They can all be irresponsible together. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to start correcting or clarifying that by focusing on the team beat reporter for the local newspaper.
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Mar 25, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Should our Washington Post beat reporter not have a higher standard? I guess not.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t mind anyone reporting a concussion, because it is not really disputable that Green was concussed by the Stepan hit.
I take issue with 1) The fact that she threw around the word “concussion” right after Green was hit in the head with a puck(and used weasel words to justify it, too: “suffering from concussion-like symptoms”), and 2) The fact that she is now saying straight up that Green suffered two concussions. She has never, to my knowledge, even implied that she has any non-public source for such information.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
…And she apparently gets snippy when questioned on it? I missed the tweets so I don’t really know what that was about…
Remember the days when we all got irritated with Tarik because he wouldn’t report on something because he hadn’t confirmed it (injury, incident, trade, contract signing, whatever).
IMO a good reporter should be precise with his/her wording, use more qualifiers (appears, unconfirmed), and say whether a report has a source or not. Katie has as far as I’m concerned been far too definitive in how she has characterized both of Green’s injuries, be they concussions or not.
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by capsyoungguns on Mar 25, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s all about timing. She was the first to throw the word around. At this point even Vogs used the dreaded concussion word on his latest Capitals Report, but he wasn’t using it when Katie first wrote it.
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by capsyoungguns on Mar 25, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Not true. ESPN reported that Green had a concussion the day after the puck-in-the-head incident, when they did a panel on concussions.
That’s even worse—they diagnosed a concussion from video and reported it as fact.
Of course I was talking about reporters and columnists who cover the team locally, the people who do the interviews and have under the radar sources, not talking heads on a national stage.
Personally I’m not all that bent out of shape by Katie because I like her enthusiasm and energy and love of hockey. But she has to have more precision with how she reports. And I’m sure she will develop it in time.
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by capsyoungguns on Mar 25, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
What do you mean?
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 25, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
JP, you’ll never hold an elected office with that attitude… ;-)
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 25, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
JP, you’ll never hold an elected office withthat attitudethose things you did in college.
FTFY
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From what I can remember, yes.
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by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Everything is on the internet, and since it is on the internet it must be true!
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 25, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s in a newspaper, but there’s no real source and I don’t think it’s a commonly accepted fact – does that mean it’s true?
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Commonly accepted isn’t subjective. In the situation you’re describing the information would not be true.
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Commonly accepted isn’t subjective
Of course it is.
And just because it’s neither sourced properly nor commonly accepted doesn’t mean it’s not true.
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If it’s subjective than it isn’t a fact and needs to be sourced.
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Right. “Commonly accepted” is subjected, “commonly accepted fact” is objective (and a bit redundant). You said “commonly accepted isn’t subjective.” I replied.
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Thanks JP… I can pretty much say the same thing…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 25, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
From the first hit to the second she was slinging the c-word more than anyone else (inside the org or out).
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by redlineblue on Mar 25, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t want to seem like a WaPo apologist, but you don’t need to be an MD or have examined Green’s melon to write a story about whether he’s concussed or not. You need reliable sources who you believe would have access to such information. Sources you would not want to or have to disclose to the public.
Katie and her editors are putting their credibility on the line by claiming he’s concussed, so I would hope and assume they have rock solid info. Not a stretch to consider that they spoke to a player in the room who confirmed that Green is in fact concussed.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 25, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Have they actually written “per a source, Green is concussed”? Honest question – I can’t recall.
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Every fact you publish doesn’t have to list its source in print, though.
Actually, it should if you’re doing your job correctly. Journalism 101-attribute, attribute, attribute.
Incorrect. Articles would be ten times as long if you had to attribute every single fact. Commonly accepted facts do not have to be attributed.
And clearly a second concussion is not commonly accepted.
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Tell that to all the editors I’ve worked for over the years. If you put something in an article that you coudln’t attribute, it was gone.
Then those editors are idiots. Commonly accepted facts do not need to be attributed.
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Commonly accepted facts don’t. Saying “he’s had two concussions” when the team has never verified this to be true isn’t a commonly accepted fact, though, and it would mean that another source came into play – which means said source needs to be referenced in some way…no?
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I’m certainly not arguing a second concussion is commonly accepted fact.
"You do that you go to the box, you know. Two minutes by yourself and you feel shame, you know. And then you get free."
Right. Because it would imply a first concussion took place.
I believe Vogel has said (and GMGM? Not sure) that he’s suffering from a concussion from the Stepan hit – commonly accepted fact. But there’s never been any confirmation or even hinting at the fact that the puck to the head was a concussion – needs a source.
…but I think we’re all talking in circles at this point. For a change.
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by capsyoungguns on Mar 25, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Right. If she said “per an anonymous Capitals official” or “a source close to Green”, that would at least give us some semblance of a metric by which to base our individual judgement of the claim’s merits. I may decide to trust “anonymous trainer”’s medical assessment more than Carrera does, and I am probably more likely to trust it over her unattributed claim that he has a concussion.
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Mar 25, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
They have not, to my knowledge. Do you think they have to?
My assumption would be that this would have to come from a source because this is not something you could or should deduce just from observation. Like, say a groin injury. Perhaps the source didn’t want to be referenced at all. Not sure of all the journalistic rules for making such references. Given the sensitivity around this, throwing in a “according to multiple sources” might have been a good idea..
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 25, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
My assumption would be that this would have to come from a source
You know what they say about “assume”…
You tend to give them the benefit of the doubt. I don’t. I just don’t think that Katie has earned that.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
What’s your issue with this woman? This is your 10th post today bashing her. She’s not doing anything the Times (NHL.com, Versus, and a host of othrs) didn’t do weeks ago.
I wouldn’t be posting this if she did the same as everyone else. No one else has claimed that Green has suffered two concussions in a 2 week span the way she has.
If the Caps rushed Green back after a concussion, and then he suffered another one in his 2nd game back, that would be a pretty BFD, no? She’s making that claim with no evidence whatsoever. No other news outlet has done the same.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
No one else has claimed that Green has suffered two concussions in a 2 week span the way she has.
Just because nobody else has claimed it doesn’t mean it’s not true. I haven’t heard any denials from the team about him having two concussions. I would think they would deny it pretty quickly because, ala Sid, it might mean that the team didn’t take enough care after the, alleged, first one.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 25, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Whether he’s had two concussions? Pretty sure the question was posed after he got the first puck to the head. Seem to recall some denials when she claimed “concussion like symptoms”. Can’t recall if that was Vogs responding or the team officially. Someone posted a video earlier with her asking GMGM if he was concussed after the second hit.
Can’t imiagine that the star defensemen is out after getting hit twice in the head and nobody would ask if he’s concussed each time, even knowing they are going to get the ultimate Heisman of responses from the team.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 25, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
The day of the game Green said he didn’t think he’d had a concussion, but admitted having balance issues.
I’m not sure how/when the question was asked between then and the Rangers game.
"You do that you go to the box, you know. Two minutes by yourself and you feel shame, you know. And then you get free."
I would think they would deny it pretty quickly
I think that they simply don’t specifically comment on injuries one way or another. Additionally, this morning’s little phrase on CI wasn’t nearly high-profile enough to cause a stink anywhere outside the comments section of this blog. No one is falling all over themselves to ask BB of GMGM this question. Even Katie didn’t specifically ask it in her interview. She simply asked if Green has a concussion.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I would not be surprised if Katie is basing this on McPhee’s response to her poorly worded question in the video I linked above.
She specifically asked if Green suffered a concussion in the Rangers game.
The first word out of GMGM’s mouth is “yeah,”
Are we debating that Green suffered a concussion at all? Or that the Rangers elbow was the second one?
"You do that you go to the box, you know. Two minutes by yourself and you feel shame, you know. And then you get free."
Debating if he has suffered two separate concussions or not.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
She also called Arnott’s injury a groin the other day and has since backpedaled from that, FWIW.
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Because the Caps asked her not to say so, or because she didn’t actually know – is the question.
Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."
Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.
By the way JP, I give you credit for taking the high road in response to her tweet last night. You certainly had room to take it in a different direction.
by Dirk Dangler on Mar 25, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Vogel has been banging the “No one has correctly reported Arnott or Ovie’s injuries correctly” drum.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Did she back-peddle in CI? I missed that
"You do that you go to the box, you know. Two minutes by yourself and you feel shame, you know. And then you get free."
She had “multiple sources” calling Arnott’s a groin injury, but since has called it “lower-body” and went on about his past knee problems. I’d call that backpedaling.
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The last thing I saw was the CI blog about Arnott Wednesday afternoon when she repeated that on Monday a source said the injury was to his groin.
I didn’t know if she’d written something else since then.
"You do that you go to the box, you know. Two minutes by yourself and you feel shame, you know. And then you get free."
I’ve met her, and thought she was really nice for whatever its worth.
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by Sombrero Guy on Mar 25, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Zippy. This isn’t in any way, shape or form about her personally.
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Reminds me of a skins game I was watching when Tim Hasselbeck was the QB. He was awful and Siragusa was laying it into him. The booth announcers didn’t comment much about Hasselbeck’s play but insisted he was a great guy and talked about Elizabeth more than the game. They got frustrated at Siragusa’s attacks and said: maybe if you’d been to the meet and greet like the rest of us you’d know where we’re coming from. He responded: that’s why don’t go to those things, I don’t need to know if he’s nice to judge how bad he’s performing today.
All this happened on live TV…Pretty enlightening.
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I know, I was just responding to
I’ve never met here or looked at her tweets much besides the ones posted here, but she comes across a bit bitchy in this one.
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by Sombrero Guy on Mar 25, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Oy
kcarrera Wideman not on the ice for the morning skate; he was riding an exercise bike earlier.
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Ugh….more TFS tonight. That sucks.
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by twistedlogic on Mar 25, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, he did have two Flyers pucks hit him Tuesday night.
(Both of which ended up in Nuevy’s net…Thanks!)
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Not as bad as 2 Suter’s own goals in a matter of seconds last night.
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That was quite an effort to put that second Own Goal in…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 25, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Nonsense. Bruce said he was just fine.
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Where’s your source for this insider info!!!
Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."
Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.
I’m told both Wideman and Semin took their option to not skate this am. #caps
Also from Katie’s twitter. So no panic.
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by red army line on Mar 25, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Let me preface this with the fact that I am no MD, BUT aren’t most concussions caused essentially by the brain being damaged through collision with the inner skull? This happens when the brain is sudenly accelerated through a major collision and sudenly stopped (think head to boards or head to elbow). A puck to the head seems way too localized to cause a typcial concussion. It could certainly cause concussion-like symptoms (e.g., disorientation, vertigo, headaches, vision problems) though.
Now the Stepan hit, I could definitely see that causing a concussion, one that might even have been exacerbated by the previous trauma. By the way, when Clark’s ear was almost shorn off by an Ovechkin slaphot a few years back, was he ever formally diagnosed with a concussion?
Head of a hammer is smaller than the side of a puck. Would give an even more localized hit.
Want to try an experiment?
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by Gould Old Days on Mar 25, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
NHl.com’s must see: Wayne and Borque talk Stanley cup….both predict only Red Wings and Vancouver. Well, at least Borque acknowledged the east but said “its too wide open” to have a favorite.
Team’s Id eliminate from the east, as most likely not going to win if the playoffs started today: Buff, Mtl, Pitt(without Matt C…Crosby they need him), and Boston as my wilder pick. Of the 3 top seeds Boston has the worst home record.
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Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.
Well, if it’s Detroit vs. Vancouver for the Stanley Cup, those guys will look like geniuses and the 99.9999% of the population who didn’t think that was possible will have a lot of questions.
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Mar 25, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Is there a link? Is this from their interview on NESN during the game last night? Bourque was told he couldn’t pick Boston during that interview.
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by red army line on Mar 25, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."
Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.
i dunno about you guys, but this matchup tonight worries me.
Sens managed to down NYR last night. If the Caps don’t play awake, they could find themselves losing.
We've been a lot better recently
Won 6 out of last 9.
But still, back to back games, and Semin always destroys us.
On the other hand, Spezza and Karlsson have been on fire, so don’t be too shocked if we pull it out. ;)
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The Rags have been doing really well lately beating down Pitt, SJS, Phi, and Mtl. And other than SJS (so win) the others were won by a margin of 3 goals or more.
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Sens are 9-1-1 in their past 11. This is NOT an easy game.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Uhhh… Never mind that. I must’ve misheard something on NHL on the fly…
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I maybe they meant their last 11 at MSG….
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
But for arguably the worst team in the East they are on something of a hot streak. 6-3 in their last nine with two wins over TB, two wins over Jersey and a win over the Rangers.
Another win or two and this will be OTT’s best month of the season.
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Thanks to Mirtle, the Globe & Mail has a list of the number of man-games lost to injury this year for each team. Caps are all the way down in 14th with “only 218” man games lost (mgl). Works out to 2.99 mgl/game. The Islander have a staggering 512 (6.92 per game!) mgl list season. At the other end, Carolina is sitting pretty with a mere 56 mgl this season.
I’ve seen some buzz about how Chicago is now back on track after injuries took their toll. Let me break out my tiny violin for all those injuries. All 97 mgl this season, third-least in the NHL.
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JP was pointing out on Twitter that raw numbers don’t tell the whole tale – losing Green for 15 games hurts this team more than, for example, the Penguins losing a fourth-line center for 30 games (totally made up example, I can’t remember which teams have lost which players anymore :P). And I’m certainly not sympathetic to the Hawks "injury plight" but that’s something important to remember when looking at lists like this.
Of course when you’re getting into the top three or four teams, obviously, there’s a huge impact on your lineup regardless of how "key" all the guys are.
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Yeah, it’s the fact that we’ve been missing Green, Backstrom, Semin, and Ovechkin for a good chunk of those man-games.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Related to those numbers, Corey (I believe) tweeted a number which I can’t find right now that said the Isles have racked up the second most # of points since 1/1, with the Caps being first.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 25, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Greetings Japers' Rink
Just announcing my presence. I’ve been following this blog for a few years now, and since I’m on the west coast and no one here ever wants to watch a Caps game on a computer feed (funny, that), I figured I’d spend this spring commiserating celebrating on the Rink. I will do my best not to disrupt the healthy blog ecosystem you all have built.
by Rainbow, Kitty, Beer on Mar 25, 2011 2:00 PM EDT reply actions 9 recs
welcome! and you even come bearing an avatar and you have kittens and beer in your name. yes, clearly you have been following for quite some time!
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 25, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I figured I’d spend this spring commiserating celebrating on the Rink.
You’ll fit right in. Welcome to the dark side.
Thanks for the warm welcome, everyone.
by Rainbow, Kitty, Beer on Mar 25, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, welcome to the dark side…. we have cupcakes.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 25, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
we ahve cupcakes because we're winners
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by RedBirdie on Mar 25, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Where on the west coast? And welcome!
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by Gould Old Days on Mar 25, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh cool! La Jolla-ish for now. Hope to move to a more interesting neighborhood later this year.
by Rainbow, Kitty, Beer on Mar 25, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
From Pierre LeBrun Chat
Justin Jones (Virden, MB)
What team(s) should be most concerned about their goaltending heading in to the playoffs?
Pierre LeBrun
(11:44 AM)
Philly (as always), Washington, Detroit
Seems like the Caps should be least worried of all 16 teams, what with three capable goaltenders who’ve combined for the 4th best overall GAA in the league…
…or maybe we’re totally fucked.
Eh, it’s a throw away line by all of the pundits and has been all year. We practically have 3 rookie goaltenders and therefore we have no one to rely on in the playoffs. I find it hard to get worked up about this anymore and would rather the team just show them how wrong they are in 3 weeks or so.
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It would be presumtuous of me to read LeBrun’s mind….so I will anyway. The problem with relying on rookies (or really young guys) who have no long playoff resumes is that they might realize where they are and start playing like rookies. This is a “until you do it, you haven’t done it” kind of thing, and among the three Caps goalies they have precisely one playoff series win. I’d be “concerned” about the Caps goaltending because the playoffs are not the regular season, and the NHL isn’t the OHL. It’s still a wild card.
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It is indeed…my issue, though, is that the idea that the Caps’ playoff success or failure is inextricably linked to their goaltending is fundamentally flawed.
Yes, the Caps (or any team, really) need a guy who can maybe steal a game or two, but there’s a reason that an “elite” goalie hasn’t won the Cup in years: with the salary cap forcing teams to spread costs around, you’re not going to steal a Cup with a goalie. You need a good team in front with lots of depth. Look at the goalies who have won the Cup (or even simply made the Finals) in the last 4-5 years. Where’s Brodeur? Lundqvist? Miller? Backstrom? Kiprusoff?
…but then I’m preaching to the choir. Every time this comes up I get a little ranty :P
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…….and my point (I did have one) is that this Caps team in particular has shown that if they’re on, they just need the goalie to be good, not great, to win. They certainly didn’t lose the Montreal series because their goaltending sucked.
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It is indeed…my issue, though, is that the idea that the Caps’ playoff success or failure is inextricably linked to their goaltending is fundamentally flawed.
Absolutely. Based on how the Caps have played this season (particularly since the Russian Whisperer arrived), I’m not of the opinion we need stand-on-your-head fantastic goalie play to reach the SC Finals.
A combination of special teams and a continued commitment to team defense is what will get it done, along with the usual side dish of good fortune. As long as our goalies aren’t terrible we can (and other than Philly, should) beat all seven EC playoff teams in a best-of-7.
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It’s all really summed up in the following statement: If Michael Leighton can lead a team to the Finals…anyone can.
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by Becca H on Mar 25, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yup. It certainly helps when the top seed goes down in flames in the first round. We would have killed the Flyers last year.
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we wouldnt have killed anyone going 1 for 33 on the PP
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And we wouldn’t have gone 1/33 against the Flyers.
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And Philly’s offense would’ve drunk the Caps’ defense’s milkshake.
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We matched up pretty well against the flyers last year in the regular season i thought.
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The regular season Flyers were not the post-season Flyers; the regular season Capitals were not the post-season Capitals.
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But those two series he played in (before the finals) he was lights out, allowing only 11 goals in 8 games (and 5 were in one game against the Canadians). He got hot and carried the team.
The big question with the Capitals’ goalies is: is there a guy who can play 20 games and not get hurt?
Well, any goalie can hit those hot streaks…but I stand by my belief that he wasn’t facing the toughest of offenses, Montreal included, in any of those series. And let’s not forget he was behind a pretty decent defense and defensive team in general.
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hell, a team of mites could have beaten Boston. What an implosion.
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Well. . .now we’ve seen how far Boston has come from that play-off bust last year.
They played a team of mites last night and crushed them 7-0
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by kingzman264 on Mar 25, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Do we need a guy who can play 20 games and not get hurt? Best case scenario we have Neuvy and Varly healthy and Holtby in the AHL.
If Neuvy falters, we have Varly. If Varly falters, we have Holtby.
Btw, Neuvy has been starting for weeks now. What makes you think he can’t play 20 games?
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There’s also the worry that you pick the wrong guy. No decisions to make in PIT, MTL, BOS, NYR, CAR, BUF, TB (maybe)… but you could “guess” wrong here. The options are good ones, but I’ll be damned if I could tell you with 100% certainty who the team’s best bet to start Game 1 is. That, to me, is a concern (even if I’m sure it’s not what Pierre meant).
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I choose to look at it from a “glass half full” perspective. The fact that we have two goalies with really solid numbers, and who have each earned(in different ways) the confidence of the coaches, is a strength.
If it is difficult to choose one or other other, it’s only because they’re both excellent, and we probably can’t make a bad pick here.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, because the Blackhawks have such solid goaltending. And Roloson has been playing so very well lately.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, strange that Chicago and Crawford don’t get a mention.
"You do that you go to the box, you know. Two minutes by yourself and you feel shame, you know. And then you get free."
Crawford has been healthy all year — the Hawks have only used 2 goaltenders this season. This is a huge plus in his and Chicago’s favor.
I think Lucy is more suggesting that Crawford is a rookie and has never been in any play-off type atmosphere
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Sure, but to me, the Capitals’ issue with goaltending may not be that there are three (or 2 1/2) rookies, it’s that there is no number one.
I mean, people have been talking about it for weeks: if both Neuvirth and Varlamov are healthy, who starts? The next question has been: how confident are you that either has the ability to remain healthy throughout the playoffs? You don’t have those questions in Chicago.
The fact that there’s a question of who’s the number one really doesn’t cause a problem, imo. i think it’s an advantage.
With rookies, you don’t know how they’re going to perform. That’s the big crux. Chicago has no idea how Crawford will do in the play-offs (although his regular season stats will suggest he’ll do well). He does poorly? Who do they have? Turco!?
We have a pretty good idea of Neuvy will do in the play-off atmosphere. We’ve seen Varly. Holtby is the only mystery. Now, if Neuvy doesn’t do well, then we get Varly. If Varly doesn’t do well? Hope Neuvy has shaken off the rust, or, put in Holtby.
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One last thing about Crawford: he’s 26. He’s had a long career in the minors and isn’t really your standard rookie.
Point taken. In the end, I think Crawford will do very well and cruise behind a great Chicago team to maybe the 2nd round. At that point, I feel like teams may be able to exploit him (just like any other goalie not named Miller or Lundqvist)
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Yeah, and his save numbers are worse than Neuvy’s, to say nothing of Varly. On paper we have two goalies better than Crawford.
If Neuvy stinks, we have Varly and vice versa. If Crawford stinks . . .
"You do that you go to the box, you know. Two minutes by yourself and you feel shame, you know. And then you get free."
Tampa at least should be on there, but depending on unproven and oft-injured goaltenders is cause for worry. The question wasn’t who has the worst goaltending, so the response doesn’t necessarily have to be taken that way.
by Rainbow, Kitty, Beer on Mar 25, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. Plus, as much as we’ve seen him crumble at times, Roloson really does solidify that position for Tampa and gives them veteran experience. REALLY veteran experience. I heard he was the goalie for the Union Army’s official hockey team.
…:D
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I don’t know about ‘least worried’, considering that Thomas, Miller, Lundqvist, Rinne, et. al. will (presumably) be in the dance.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 25, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks, LeBrun!
for allowing me to use this picture in response to your stupid comment.
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by RedBirdie on Mar 25, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I thought this was for the Steckel-Crosby thing…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 25, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
And functional! And it appeals to my inner nerd.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 25, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
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Alright, I’m going to take a minute here to talk about something that’s not really hockey-related, but is blog-related. I could mention it in the Off-Topic thread, but I want to make sure folks here saw it (so if someone wants to link to this comment in the OTOT, that’d be cool, of course).
Anyway, the other night we had an incident. The specifics aren’t important and don’t really need to be brought up here. What matters is that someone (a long-time and highly valued member of our community) violated our community guidelines in a way that left us no choice but to ban him, which we did.
Since then, he has reached out to us and expressed what we feel is a sufficient level of both contrition and understanding for us to feel comfortable lifting his ban. We consider this matter handled and are looking forward to moving on, but if anyone has any concerns about it, please feel free to contact myself or one of the moderators listed below. Thanks.
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As the guilty party here, I will take this opportunity to apologize to the community in general for my several inappropriate posts during the GDT. I also specifically apologize to the Ghost of Bebop for the direct attack on him/her.
I wish that I had not said the things that I did, but I did say them, and I ask for your forgiveness.
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by sydtron on Mar 25, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
welcome, and I’m looking forward to reading your hockey insights again.
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flagged——Id prefer if you used the words “Big-Boned_Daddyo” as your handle
no really, welcome back
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I’m glad you’re back. I likewise enjoy reading your analyses. We have all done and said things regrettable and unfortunate. Thank goodness for second chances.
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by capsyoungguns on Mar 25, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
As I recall, it was mentioned during said incident that flagging posts doesn’t trigger a notification to mods immediately. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a flagged comment, so does it require multiple flags or does that just eventually hide the comment?
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None of the above. Flagging merely makes it visible to us and sends a note to a dashboard that we can check. If something’s eggregious, you should flag it and send an email to one of the mods or myself (emails on the masthead).
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I ‘m pretty sure the flagger can also see it (as one who’s flagged his fair share of spambots on BR&U), but agreed on everything else.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 25, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I flagged Joe Fortunato. I’d rather invite him to taste some rare wine in my niter covered cellar.
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by Rob Parker on Mar 25, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec of Amontillado
Release the Mackan!
by Killer_Carlson on Mar 25, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I think with 5 flags the post should turn red
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Meh, 5 recs turns a post green so that it can be seen better. Making it red would pretty much do the same thing. I.E. something you dont want to do to an incendiary comment
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I am a fuel to the fire kinda guy….
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Pens fans erection alert:
SIDNEY CROSBY BLOWS UP WATER BOTTLE W/ BACKHAND
"You do that you go to the box, you know. Two minutes by yourself and you feel shame, you know. And then you get free."
by LucyImHome on Mar 25, 2011 3:44 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Ha!
I can’t watch youtube at work, but I will rec it anyway.
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It’s just him going through some drills this morning. At one point he flicks a top-shelf backhand shot and the water bottle seems to come apart. (My guess is he hit it near the neck and the top popped off.)
The funny thing for me is you hear a coach or player in the background saying “Oh My God! Did you see the water bottle?” in a tone which would only have been appropriate if Crosby had just cured cancer while levitating above the ice.
"You do that you go to the box, you know. Two minutes by yourself and you feel shame, you know. And then you get free."
It’s actually really good to see him back. He’s a great hockey player… just wish he didn’t play for the Penguins.
Dingos are involved. Best not to ask.
I wish he wasn’t such an ass on the ice, too. I can respect his skill, but not him as a player.
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I have a lot more respect for him as a player than I do for him as a person. His handling of the Steckel incident said quite a bit about who his.
Plus he’s as interesting as my coffee table.
"You do that you go to the box, you know. Two minutes by yourself and you feel shame, you know. And then you get free."
I’ve always found him to be rather irritable off-ice when his boring-as-tofu persona slips up. But I hate how he conducts himself on ice, too. D’ohboy has written a few times about Crosby’s post-whistle extracurricular and his love of wielding his stick. I hope D’oh pops in, because he expresses it much better than I.
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and his slewfoots….he is a slewfoot monster
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Malkin’s the slew foot monster on that team.
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I wonder who is in net…..
as a side note to JP or someone, does SBN have an option to auto-check the “open in a new window” box when posting link? Clicking on links for me is like a dangerous game of russian roulette. I pray everytime I click it wont take me away.
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There is no such option, but I always right-click on the link and then open in a new tab/window just to be safe.
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thanks for the tidbit of interweb workings, I had no idea I could do that….I shall fret no more
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You can also click with the scroll button on your mouse, if you have one.
Eat, drink, and be merry! And then drink some more.
or hold the Ctrl key down as you click it (works on most browsers)
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Mar 25, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
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really? he looks pretty awful, maybe he is just taking it easy…or maybe they have their DJ in pads
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Believe it or not, the Pens actually do have a Stretch. Jim Britt, the guy who breaks down all the video is a former goalie. He’s filled in at practice a couple times, but he hasn’t been pressed into (almost) NHL action, so no star turn just yet.
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
Thats pretty awesome…and an example on why I love this game so much…I dont think anything like that has happened in other sports….
cue the story posting in 3…2…1
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It was actually the best goalie in the AHL this season, Brad Thiessen. Johnny, shocker, has a day-to-day injury and hasn’t skated in a few days. Weird that he would get minorly dinged up, huh?
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
Yea I didnt think it was Knuckles and I knew it wasnt Flower
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I’ll let this slide, but that sort of stuff (randomly mocking opposing fans or players other than Joe Corvo for no reason whatsoever) doesn’t really play here.
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I see what you are getting at…but I think I may be sporting a pants tent if I saw a clip of GreenLife skating today.
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Imagine it was Ovechkin and he hadn’t played a game in 11 weeks and this was some of the first little clips you saw of him back out there….
Thus, the over-joyed reactions.
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
reply fail? … I dunno, I said I would sport wood if that was greener
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Yes, but in order to understand how happy the Caps fanbase would be about something like this it’s better to imagine Ovechkin. Since he’s the equivalent of what Crosby is to the Pens fanbase.
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
I got you, If that was Ovechkin after being out for 11 weeks with little to no status updates, I would take that clip to a dark musky basement and watch it on a loop for 8 hours minimum with my eyelids taped open.
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Okay. I assumed I’d lose my Caps fan street cred if I said “Here’s a video of Sidney Crosby looking pretty good in practice this morning.”
And saying Pens fans are getting an erection over that clip isn’t really mocking as much as it telling it like it is. I’m good friends with three Pens fans and two of them have that video on their FB page right now with an over-the-top, erectiony proclamation
"You do that you go to the box, you know. Two minutes by yourself and you feel shame, you know. And then you get free."
If you weren't mocking
I want to take back my rec. :/
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Lol, no that was a legit video with Crosby looking decent on the ice.
It’ll be quite a shame if with the same post I simultaneously lost respect from you for not mocking and drew J.P.’s ire for mocking. Tough to win these days, I guess, lol.
"You do that you go to the box, you know. Two minutes by yourself and you feel shame, you know. And then you get free."
My rule of thumb is
Mocking Crosby/Penguins is always acceptable.
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Maaaan, if Ovie could rip backhanders like that… And still keep his ridiculous curve… Sigh.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Lest we forget, a sizeable portion of the Pens’ fanbase is not able to sport erections, unless you are referring to scaffolding, walls, buildings, or other edifices.
inclines, you forgot inclines
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Definitely don’t forget the inclines:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canton_Avenue
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yea…my first time there, I was really puzzled on how people got around in all the snow they get with all the hills….I thought they were just better drivers, then I saw THIS
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Anyone know what the deal is with this?
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For obvious reasons, I will be leaving this one strictly alone.
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by fat_daddyo on Mar 25, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
hahahahaha…..I was going to put out a pre-emtive strike and discourage you from giving your opinion…..but I didnt want to rip off the fresh band-aid…
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I cant find the video or backstory…I am assuming it is a collision caught with awesome camera work.
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I don’t think you have sufficient sample size to make that judgment.
by Berube Doobie Doo on Mar 25, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Just a little May-Smidecember romance.
by Rainbow, Kitty, Beer on Mar 25, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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