Tuesday Caps Clips: Isles @ Caps Game Day
by J.P. on Mar 1, 2011 6:40 AM EST
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Your savory breakfast links:
- Previews of tonight's rematch of Saturday night's game on Long Island from Vogs, NHL.com (Compton), Peerless, SB Nation DC and RtR, and be sure to check out our criminally underrated SB Nation partner Lighthouse Hockey for more coverage from the other side of tonight's match-up.
- Notes and assorted whatnot from yesterday's practice. [CI (Carrera, Schimmel), DCEx (McNally), bridgetds (pics)]
- The big non-trade news from yesterday is that Mike Green will miss a "couple of weeks" as he recovers from a head injury and that Tom Poti and Eric Fehr have been retroactively placed on Long-Term Injured Reserve. [CI (Applebaum)]
- On Fehr, it's been slow-goin', but he's getting close to a return. [DCEx (McNally)]
- And now for more trade deadline coverage than you can possibly consume:
- GM George McPhee talks about the day. [Caps365 (video), CI (Carrera)]
- McPhee also called in to LaVar and Dukes. [106.7 The Fan (audio)]
- General impressions on the day, (inter)national media. [Puck Daddy, ESPN (LeBrun/Burnside, Burnside), USA Today (Allen), The Hockey News (Campbell, Puck Panel (video)), Yahoo! (Cotsonika), PHT]
- General impressions on the day, local media. [WaPo (Carrera), CSN Washington (Raby), KOL, WC2010, Capitals News Network, Hockey Independent (Scriven), RMNB, Frankovic, OFB, Puckhead, TBD (Chamberlain), WashTimes (Starkey), StC, Puck 'N Hockey, ABC7 (video), Ross Hollebon's Sports Pub, Cap Centre, Hockey Mom, CRtC]
- General impressions on the day, Central Pennsylvania/South Carolina media. [Patriot-News (Leone), Rays the Roof]
- The official trade call on the Dennis Wideman deal. [Caps365 (video)]
- On the Wideman trade. [Dump n' Chase, CI (Carrera, Carrera), DCEX (McNally), CSN Washington's Lunchbox Live (video), On Frozen Pond (video of Wideman), CSN Washington (Raby), WashTimes (Starkey), Frankovic, KOL, Capitals News Network, TSN (Cullen), PHT, TBD (Chamberlain)]
- Wideman speaks. [NHL Live! (audio), CI (Carrera), SB Nation DC]
- On the Jason Arnott trade. [Puck Daddy, ESPN's Barry Melrose (video) NHL.com (Raby), DCEx (McNally), CI (Carrera), SB Nation DC, RtR, TBD (Chamberlain)]
- On the flip-side of the Arnott trade, David Steckel. [Blonde Girl's Guide]
- Scott Hannan, on deadline day. [RtR]
- GM George McPhee talks about the day. [Caps365 (video), CI (Carrera)]
- Wondering what Donald Brashear is up to? Wonder no more. [The700Level]
- Bear Tracks! [LDN]
- Happy 29th birthday to Brian Sutherby.
- Finally, thanks to everyone who made yesterday the single biggest day (I think) in Rink history. Traffic was huge, and your 4,300-plus comments (and counting) on yesterday's posts is insane. Cheers.
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Anyone know what numbers Wideman and Arnott will be wearing?
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Those are correct (Arnott wore “44” in Dallas), and Sturm has “18.”
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Awesome. I always wondered why Caps players don’t go for the single digit numbers more. 2 and 9 are still open!
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there was talk yesterday at the devils’ SBN blog about steckel not being allowed to wear #39 in new jersey. does anyone know if they were joking, or if lou actually has a rule that players can’t have numbers over #35?
I’ve heard of it in the past (the early ’00s Sens teams did the same thing). Supposed to subtly promote team harmony or something.
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guess it was just cheaper to cut “ARNOTT” of the 25 sweater and sew “STECKEL” on it.
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Sweater still warm, even. Ew.
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Your “44’s” in Caps history….
Igor Ulanov
Richard Zednik
Steve Eminger
Staffan Kronwall
…and now, Jason Arnott
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Wonder why Arnott didnt select a number w/ a nine. Current Capitals’ centers use even numbes or mostly 9s.
19 Backs
90 Makan
91 Feds
09 ’what’s his name’
85 MP
15 Gordon
37 Stecks
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by BetterOffWith28 on Mar 1, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
thx, Dam I’m getting old, i knew his face but couldnt recall his name for the life of me.
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by BetterOffWith28 on Mar 1, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Mogilny wore 89 in New Jersey.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2011 9:00 AM EST up reply actions
In Russia, you don’t choose number, number choose you.
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So they’ve settled on Ivan as permanent Lunchbox host?
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Different Lunchbox. Lots o’ lunch boxes at CSN.
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Every time I hear “Jason Arnott,” I’m thinking “James Arness.”
by Seminrocks on Mar 1, 2011 7:25 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Joe Corvo
always conjured up the wonderful image of a certain brand of tequila. But I digress.
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pet peeve?
Not really. But if anybody thinks all wine gets better with age, I’ve got a 2002 bottle of this white wine I found hidden in my wine “collection” this wkd I can pop for you if you take it before I chuck it.
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Is anyone else really worried about Green? I don;t think this team’s going anywhere without him and head injuries scare me.
I’m worried about him, as well. Not to mention the state of our goaltending. When Ford’s our backup, we’re in trouble, given that he’s barely adequate for the AHL.
Get well soon, Green, Varly, and Holtby, not to mention Fehr.
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Ford’s already been sent back down, so I think Varly is healthy(ish).
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Green is done for the season IMO, inner ear injury and now concussed pretty badly (which is ironic since he was trying to crosscheck Stepan into the boards). On the upside, we won’t see the annual Mike Green playoff collapse.
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it’s hard to have opinion on something with so little real information available. for instance, you don’t know he was “concussed pretty badly.” it’s certainly a possibility, though.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 1, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Where did you hear that he was “concussed pretty badly”? If you listen to GMGM’s interview from yesterday, he sounded pretty optimistic that Green should be back sooner rather than later.
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by CapsFan2020 on Mar 1, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
From him taking a puck to a vulnerable point of the head and eating a face full of shoulder from Stepan.
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Those happen all the time, sometimes with no injuries at all. Even the best doctors in the world couldn’t diagnose a concussion just from looking at the hit.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
by Doncosmic on Mar 1, 2011 10:03 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
could even be a case of vertigo, no?
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by ns on Mar 1, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
Or breathing too many exhaust fumes from riding that scooter all over the place…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
I drove by the Arlington Vespa store on my way to morning skate today and laughed.
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You know how people look punch drunk after a hit? That’s a concussion.
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In Green’s case, that’s how he always looks though.
"And then they’ll look at guys in my situation, that could play three good games in a row and have one bad shift, and they’ll say, ‘Well, that’s why he’s been in the minor leagues his whole career.'" --Matt Hendricks
Dahhhhhhhhhhhh MUS-tache ahhhhhhhhhhh
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 1, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
of course the penguins also announced several times that crosby had a “minor concussion” in the weeks after his injury. really we’re speculating either way.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 1, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
And that’s the thing, the team hasn’t come out and said “he has a concussion”. What’s to be gained from them keeping that secret, or calling it something else? If anything, it’d be good to have an explanation like that handy for why the team is sitting one of their best players.
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watching how things played out with crosby and richards and countless others, teams aren’t usually forthright about these things until they have to be. perhaps the player doesn’t want it known that he’s had a concussion. who knows? very little hard info to work off, though. you can go ahead and assume the best if you want.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 1, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
I assume nothing until we get confirmation either way. For now the only thing I know about Green is that he’s got headaches and will be out for a couple of weeks – I’m not a doctor, I’m not on the inside, so I take what I’ve been told as the truth and move on.
I do think Green will be back this year. I also think that getting as much rest as he can now – and being given time to heal from whatever this is – will only be good in the long run.
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i guess the problem then is we know the symptoms (headaches, wooziness, balance problems) but not the condition. we also know that even the team is uncertain about his timetable for return. so when GMGM says 2 weeks i read “GMGM thinks it will be 2 weeks.” it doesn’t mean they’re giving us misinformation, but it’s not like we can take 2 weeks to the bank. for what it’s worth, i hope you’re right!
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 1, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
When did you perform the physical examination?
Dude got on a plane the day after the hit. They don’t let you on a plane if you can’t walk straight. I think he’s probably not in dire medical straits.
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by Gould Old Days on Mar 1, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
The only thing we know for certain is that McPhee said that Green had headaches. That’s not good, but as you said, he traveled to Calgary, so while he may indeed have a concussion, it’s likely not too severe. Keeping him out a bit, even if he’s fine by now, is probably a very good idea.
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And he didn’t even make the whole practice. Our threads were speculating if he was hurt or (gasp) traded. People were guessing the former.
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Depending on the details, obviously, trading David Steckel could make GMGM mayor of Awesometown.
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by J.P. on Mar 1, 2011 7:49 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Where’s your heart man?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2011 8:01 AM EST up reply actions
Flash did quite well after his trade. Stecks will too.
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All things considered, slow skaters can succeed with the Devils. He’ll do just fine up there.
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Steckel is going to a system he was born to play in. He’s going to be their third line center right away.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
No doubt. I said it yesterday… 1.1 mil is way to much for a guy that loses 4 out of 10 draws and does little else.
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It’s a fair price if your team didn’t have Boyd Gordon, Matt Hendricks and Jay Beagle all capable of playing the same position with the same relative degree of effectiveness. It was $2-500k pissed away every season.
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Steckel is well aware.
It’s about time.
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by Ovechwin on Mar 1, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The game 6 OT goal vs the Pens was one of the best moments in years…..so for that, “I thank you Stecks.” ……….. Game 7…meh……
It was the 2nd biggest goal of the post-lockout era for the Caps. Stecks will be missed.
You had me at no problem.
First being Feds’ in the Rags Game 7?
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 1, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
I’d say yay. And with hindsight, I’m not sure I wouldn’t instead put the Steckel goal at #3. Getting into the playoffs in ‘08 was probably #2, and gee, wasn’t it Feds with the GWG in that game, too?
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by Scott in Shaw on Mar 1, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
Feds has scored the two biggest goals for the Caps since the lockout… Steckel’s is #4… I’d put Nick Backstrom’s OT winner in Game 2 vs Habs ahead of it.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Man I still remember that goal vividly. What’s great about that goal is that it didn’t come out of nowhere; we all knew Feds was going to score by the way he was skating. And when he scored, literally popcorn, nachos and beer we’re flying all over my family room as if an explosion just occurred, it was insane….. good times.
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by BetterOffWith28 on Mar 1, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
No different than the seats I was in. We lost at least two beers and no one sat down for the rest of the game. Loudest I have ever heard that place. My ears were still ringing an hour later.
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Mar 1, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
That was 5 minutes of non stop roar. Loved every second of it.
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It definitely reinforced the legend of “Unleash the Fury”.
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Mar 1, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
I screamed. I yelled. I cried tears of joy.
One of my favorite Boswell columns is about that night:
Was that the sound of 18,277 people screaming in Verizon Center? Or were they just letting out their breath?
When the Capitals’ devoted but desperate fans finally stopped holding their breath last night, when the seventh and final excruciating game against the New York Rangers was finally over and Washington had won, 2-1, all their pent-up tension, hope, frustration and pride burst forth in a sound like an erupting jet engine — as heard from the inside.
They yelled. They stuck out every red-clad chest. They watched the Caps encircle and embrace Simeon Varlamov, one day past his 21st birthday, the man who literally saved their postseason, allowing just seven goals in his six games. And they roared for old Sergei Fedorov, the veteran who beat Henrik Lundqvist for the game-winning goal with just 4 minutes 59 seconds left in the third period. And, yes, Fedorov realized, of course, that the place to beat King Henrik was over his left shoulder, the weakness that the Caps have preyed upon throughout their comeback from a three-games-to-one deficit.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
louder than a MD-Duke b-ball game at Cole
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Game 7 vs Rags and any game at Cole against Puke and I could literally feel my face vibrating….not at RFK, its outdoors
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loud, different type of loud though I think…I think I could see sound at game 7 and it was just noise, no distinguishing sounds what so ever
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Steckels other “big goal” got kinda lost in the hoopla of the “dueling hat tricks” game. But Steckel was the only guy not named Crosby or Ovechkin to score that night. And so the Caps won.
Lambert’s take on that night is worth reading (along with the bad MS paint)
So the difference in a Sid/Ovie slugfest came down to one man — David Steckel, the pride of Westbend, Wisconsin — who now has as many goals in the two games of this series as he did in his prior 32. Which is kinda crazy if you sit down and think about it.
But what the hell, right? Someone’s gotta show up. Might as well be the guy with 13 career goals. Since it sure isn’t anyone else.
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I still don’t consider goals scored while the goalie is being crosschecked in the neck to be valid, so I remain stubborn in my refusal to acknowledge that Sid had a hat trick in that game.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
by Doncosmic on Mar 1, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I’ve been pretty much with you all along. Winning the game makes it moot, but the story would have been quite different if the penalty had been called.
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The biggest thing I remember about that Steckel goal? The guy who had the primary assist.
You had me at no problem.
damn, that serious was all sorts of weird scoring going on.
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That was the same look Steckel had on his face when he found out he had to move to Newark.
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laichitor, in case you missed it yesterday, alz well that ends well suggested a new screen name for you.
I did miss that. Solid.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Mar 1, 2011 8:12 AM EST up reply actions
Change it! Change it!!!
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
I think Stecks knew his time here was probably up. I noticed a bit of a spark in his step the last 8-10 games. He appeared to be in on the forecheck more than usual, and seemed to be hitting or attempting to hit more as well (all this being relative, of course). He seemed to be playing to save himself from being traded.
Do we know exactly when this was photo was taken? I only ask because this looks like a man who has just been called off the ice on trade deadline day.
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by capsyoungguns on Mar 1, 2011 7:43 AM EST up reply actions
I know that I was reading more than commenting – and I got absolutely jack squat done at work yesterday. I think my ‘z’ finger needs to be in a cast today.
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by Backeez Got Back on Mar 1, 2011 7:48 AM EST up reply actions
Me too. Absolute waste of a day. But fun too.
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by capsyoungguns on Mar 1, 2011 8:03 AM EST up reply actions
I was out for several hours yesterday afternoon, so missed the hoopla associated with the Arnott trade. It felt like it took hours to catch up last night.
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We were at Scouts (my son got his Arrow of Light) so I stayed up far too late catching up with the discussions.
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by capsyoungguns on Mar 1, 2011 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
All that prepping ahead of time t o have an easier day workwise on Deadline Day didn’t quite work out as planned (read: I was swamped yesterday) but it was nice to be able to read comments as they happened and add my sarcastic two cents when I could breathe from under my workload.
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Days following major trades or expired contracts are always full of melancholy for me. The team and players you have followed and known for a while change and people move on. I was very sad to see Fedorov go, just as I was sad to see Theo walk this summer. Now, it’s Steckel. We are, of course, always left with the memories.
Fedorov’s game and series winning play-off goal against the Rangers. Theo’s shutouts and the stories of his off ice travails. Steck’s game-winning goal in the play-off series against Pittsburgh and his off-ice conduct. All of those were happy and nostalgic memories to me that made me happy to see them in Caps colours.
That said, every time it happens, it is also a chance for a new beginning and hopefully the emergence of more similiarly nostalgic memories with Sturm, Wideman and Arnott, even if some of those guys leave this summer. I wish Steckel all the best and best of luck in the future, thank him for the memories and look forward to seeing what the new guys will bring to the table.
But the sappy, nostalgic git in me cannot help but shed a single tear. Or maybe a couple.
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by Madelle on Mar 1, 2011 7:46 AM EST reply actions 15 recs
Rec. So many poignant moments with trades.
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by capsyoungguns on Mar 1, 2011 9:21 AM EST up reply actions
the don fishman “official call” on the wideman trade is 24/7 type access. totally rad of the NHL to film it for us diehards.
I thought that was pretty cool as well. Who was the guy on the line for the Caps?
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don fishman. he’s the lawyer and salary gap specialist GMGM referenced during his press conference yesterday. he’s also made several VERY WORTHWHILE appearances on japers’ rink radio.
knew I recognized that name. Thanks.
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and looking back, it appears he’s only had one guest apperance on JRR. this is him from july 2010.
His last minute “Take care of Jake [Hauswirth] – he’s a great guy” just about broke my heart. Knowing they were sending Jake into the hell that is the Panthers’ ‘farm’ system.
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Who knows, the Cats are so decimated Hauswirth might make the NHL squad. :)
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They’ve got enough bodies in Rochester that they can fill out their roster. Plus they can fill in from the waiver wire. I hear DJ King’s available.
Now Hauswirth might end up in Rochester playing for the Amerks, which would be a step up from South Carolina. The fans in Rochester love their pucks, love the Amerks, and rival Hershey the way they support their team. I went to college in Rochester, and attended about 35-40 Amerks games while there. Great building and fans.
If he stays in the ECHL though, he’ll end up playing for Cincinnati, who are behind the Stingrays in the standings.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Big geek warning (you've been warned)
I’m dying to see what Sturm can do, because his name names me think of Sturm Brightblade from the Dragonlance books.
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by WordsOnIce on Mar 1, 2011 7:54 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Kitiara, that biotch. Joins the club.
"And then they’ll look at guys in my situation, that could play three good games in a row and have one bad shift, and they’ll say, ‘Well, that’s why he’s been in the minor leagues his whole career.'" --Matt Hendricks
all the pundit chatter about how we gave too much in the arnott deal—while probably true—indicates to me that people nationally overvalue steckel based on his size, FO% and brief flirtation with stardom during the pens’ series two years ago. with his contract in place for a few more years, i wish the caps could’ve sent him elsewhere for pick or picks, and made someone else work in the NJD deal. i guess i’ll always wonder who asked for what during the Lou&GMGM calls.
What “gave too much?” On of the things the Caps suffer from is having too many of the same kind of player. Often that is spoken in context of too many offensive players content to play the perimeter, but it applies to grinders, too. The Caps have — in the middle — Steckel, Boyd Gordon, and Jay Beagle. Steckel carries a $1.1 million cap hit this year and for two more years (I’m relying on NHLnumbers here, not capgeek, which I can’t access, so I could be wrong). Gordon has an $800K cap hit and is a UFA after this season. Beagle has a $525K cap hit and one more season.
Taking Steckel off the books does not leave the cupboard bare of his type of player, and taking more dollars off the cap roster leaves the Caps a little more wiggle room in the summer to sign FAs or extend current players.
If Steckel were the only guy who could take faceoffs and play defense (although that was inconsistent this season), it might be overpayment to include the second. The Caps would have depleted a role AND lost an asset they could use to fill it down the road. But that second is likely to be somewhere in the latter third of the second round (we hope) in 2012, which would put it somewhere between the 50th and 60th pick overall. Whatever you think of the Caps’ drafting overall, they have not had an extraordinary amount of success in the draft past the 50th pick (remember, neither of the Dmitri’s in Hershey — Orlov or Kugryshev — have yet played a minute at this level).
The Caps gave up a player that has others playing (or who could play) that role and an asset that has not been an historical source of positive returns for a player with experience, a history of production, and who has been a winner. Nothing is certain; Arnott might be a bust, but at the moment I’m failing to see the downside here.
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by ThePeerless on Mar 1, 2011 8:13 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
You forgot Hendricks, who is also a C, although he’s played wing most of the time this season.
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i guess this is exactly my point. i don’t have an issue with the price for arnott, and i agree that steckel was expendable given his contract, his role on the team, and the other players on roster who can fill his role on the team. i do think it’s possible that steckel’s perceived value around the league was a lot higher than it was to the caps, particularly given the chorus of outsiders that think NJD fleeced GMGM. i’d like to know what the return might have been on steckel in a separate trade where GMGM shopped him purely for picks, and i’d like to know if lou lamoriello asked for steckel directly or if we could have made something else work.
5 minutes of research on David Steckel will tell anyone that GMGM didn’t get “fleeced” in the deal. But hell, if they think he did, let them keep thinking that.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2011 8:25 AM EST up reply actions
It is sad that people are willing to declare winners and losers in trades already. Neither team has played a game with the new guys.
If Arnott scores a goal in game 7 of round 1 and Steckel wins a faceoff that leads to a goal that gets the Devils into the playoffs are both teams winners? Nobody has been fleeced at this point.
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on the other hand—and playing devil’s advocate here won’t be easy if we’re talking about a stanley cup winning goal—if we can talk about players getting “lucky” in a statistical sense, then GMs can get lucky also. maybe the best time to judge a trade (and therefore the GM who pulled the trigger) is at the time of the deal, when we can fully evaluate the information he was working with at the time.
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The whole “Hindsight is 20/20” thing….well said.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 1, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
it’s not about actual value though, it’s about what someone is willing to pay. maybe i have too little faith in GMs around the league, but i think there are enough good ol’ boys still in business that one of them would have dramatically overpaid for 2.25 years of the best face-off guy in the league who also “has size.”
The worry here, if anything, is that Arnott is hockey’s version of “Donovan McNabb,” a player with a history of production on a competitive team (given Jersey’s 17-2-2 run), cut loose by that team by management who might know him a lot better than other GMs. Extending the analogy, Arnott would be a player spent of his ability to contribute, made available despite the team’s success around him. In other words, Lou knew what he was getting rid of.
That’s the fear. But Lou said this…
“We felt that in order for us to trade Jason Arnott, we had to bring a player into our lineup that would not miss a beat with the type of team we had,” Lamoriello said. “It had to be a perfect fit because we don’t want to lose anything in what has been happening. He can be used in all situations, especially when the game is on the line.”
I’m not aware Steckel could be used (at the NHL level, at least) in a power play situation down a goal with 30 seconds left in the game, even as a sixth attacker. Not on a good team, anyway. Not his game. Lou might be blowing smoke, or he doesn’t entirely know what he got, either.
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I would feel he was McNabb if the Caps turned around and signed him to an absurd contract extension like the Redskins did. But there’s no commitment to the team beyond this year, and he’s more than likely just here for the last 20 games and the playoffs. I can live with giving up David Steckel and a 2d round pick in 2012 for that as opposed to what they could have given up for other players.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2011 8:36 AM EST up reply actions
Lou might be blowing smoke, or he doesn’t entirely know what he got, either.
bingo! i’m sure there are GMs and scouting staffs who have done their homework, looked at the weight of the evidence on steckel, and concluded he is a replaceable player who is moderately underperforming his contract. but my educated guess is that many haven’t. who knows, maybe steckel was a substitute for the 1st-round pick lou was demanding, in which case this could’ve been exactly the time for GMGM to use the steckel chip and take advantage of the asymmetry of information.
Arnott is McNabb — all the hope of him being the 2C comes from people who see him up in a system that hides his deficiencies and exposes his strengths. Down here in DC with Boudreau’s system he is going to be rather awful.
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I don’t see how you can predict that with any degree of certainty.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 1, 2011 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
Arnott is slow and old, he’s not the player from the 99 team. He was pretty much the worst option to bring in beside Richards.
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he’s going to LA, right?
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by twistedlogic on Mar 1, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
The best? None, there isn’t anyone that could have been brought in for a reasonable price. Unloading Steckel’s contract is huge but paying a 2nd rounder for it?
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You concede that the best options either weren’t available or couldn’t be had for a reasonable price. You say Arnott was the worst option but you don’t give any examples of available players that would have been a better fit. I’m not sure what your argument is other than “Arnott is slow and old.”
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 1, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The best option was not making a move for one. The worst option was for a player who doesn’t fit the Capitals’ system and is several years past his prime.
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Someone please dig up the comparison from yesterday of Arnott to Fedorov…also deemed “old” and “past his prime”.
And we don’t know if he won’t fit in with our system. We thought Nylander would when he was brought in a few years ago and look how that turned out? Arnott could be a bust, he could be a perfect fit. Let’s see him play a few games before deciding one way or another.
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by Becca H on Mar 1, 2011 10:04 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Fedorov was past his prime, about the same number of years as Arnott. Difference is, Fedorov was flat out better than Arnott.
Hell, they could have picked up another re-tread from the 99 team in Niedermayer for free if they were hell-bent on bringing in a veteran center.
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Feds was more talented – not arguing that point at all. But being past his prime, or perceived as such, doesn’t make a guy useless on this team. Both GMGM and BB made reference to his leadership abilities and the fact that he’s won a Cup…don’t underestimate the impact a guy like that could have on a young team like this.
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The goal wasn’t merely to bring in a veteran center. The goal was to get someone who could be a reliable 2C. Arnott can be serviceable in that position. At worst, he’s a good 3C, which still greatly improves the team’s depth.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 1, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
Niedermayer’s a 3C too, same as Arnott. It’s a waste of a draft pick that isn’t going to amount to anything other than a first round exit for the second year coming.
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Well, feel free to look at something like this with that cheery outlook. Sounds like a fun way to be a fan.
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by twistedlogic on Mar 1, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
I think Arnott will bring a lot to the room. I also like having another vet center to help Marcus learn what the position is all about. Nicky’s so gifted I think he can’t explain all the things that he does, and Arnott’s game may actually be more similar to MoJo’s anyway.
And, who knows? Maybe having a 6-5 220 lb center will help Semin’s game somehow.
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by Ninjak on Mar 1, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Because GMGM and Boudreau are mis-managing the team and blaming the Indian and not the arrow.
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The mismanaged how exactly? Arnott is still an upgrade over Matty “I cant backcheck” P. They got an upgrade over Sloan in Wideman, and they added another scorer to the roster in Sturm. They did all this whithout giving up Hotlby, Eakin, Kuzy etc etc
Please explain how exactly you came to the conclusion that they are mismanaging the team because I for one am curious.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Poti contract
Steckel contract
Erskine contract
Sloan contract
Matty P can backcheck, he’s just not strong enough to play effective defense.
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Thats slightly overpaying (with the exception of Poti). Not really mismanagement.
Mismanagement would have been giving up Kuzy, Holtby, Eakin and a pick for Weiss.
And if Matty can back check then tell me why he almost never does? I think its more than just strength and size with him. He takes whole nights off for weeks at a time. Im glad we picked up a center that’s a huge upgrade over that.
I think what sydtron reacts to is general Shiny New Toy Syndrome. I have been subject to it myself.
I know that my feelings towards Arnott have improved within the last 24 hours. Realistically, he’s not great. He’s a 3C and so is MarJo. But if he can just get reinvigorated for a few months…
I did the same thing last year with Corvo, to be honest.
On the plus side, Arnott removes a bad contract, unjams a position where the team had an unhelpful surplus of depth and reallocates it to a position where the team had no real options. I think he’s a legit option to take a 3C shift, where MP was not.
On the minus side, one of MJ90 or Arnott will be playing a line above their capabilities. Which isn’t ideal.
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a 2nd round pick, though, for all of that? Forcing a bad contract to a team that is in cap hell cost the Caps dearly.
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Yeah. GMGM paid a premium to move Stecks and upgrade 3C. No doubt about it.
The team, in my estimation, had zero chance to win a playoff round with MP85 and MJ90 taking 2C and 3C minutes. I think they have at least a chance now.
Consider, though, that there was extremely low supply in the market; the Caps had a well-documented need; other teams had needs in the same position.
GMGM was over a barrel, in short. His choice was either to stand pat and flush the season, or pay the premium and hope for the best.
I don’t hate the Arnott deal, and I don’t love it. I think he overpaid. I think there wasn’t much choice. I don’t think the move makes the Caps a contender, but I think it removes certain doom, so there’s always the chance they get lucky with matchups, bounces, etc. It’s better to have slim hope than no hope at all, I guess.
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by fat_daddyo on Mar 1, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The In Lou We Trust folks are really happy about this trade, and ere very down on Arnott. I don’t know if we have had any In Lou We Trust people come over to post on their thoughts about him, but the evaluations they are giving him are just north of worthless.
I think Steckel is a great fit for the Devils minus the extremely obvious “how the hell can they take on a bad contract?”
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I read some In Lou We Trust comments on TSN last night. I remember comments that he started strong and faded this season (“BMo!!!” [cough]) and maybe this would re-energize him
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Yes, every team wants to believe that their new acquisition will be “energized” or “reinvigorated” or “rejuvenated” by their new team, and maybe experience a “renaissance” of sorts.
It’s mostly “a load of crap”. Arnott probably won’t set the world on fire in DC, and Steckel probably won’t turn into a 20 goal scorer.
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Arnott is a serviceable 2C. I said he’s at worst a 3C.
As for your second point…come on. That’s pointless supposition. One could flip things around and say we gave up a 2nd rounder that won’t amount to anything because McPhee can’t draft outside of the 1st round. This sort of logic and adds nothing to the discussion.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 1, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Feds/Arnott
Previous season-and-3/4 leading up to deadline trade to WSH: Arnott (124GP, 70Pts, -9), Fedorov (123GP, 70Pts, -10).
by mechanicsville on Mar 1, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
How would wasting a draft pick lead to a first round exit? Do you think 90 and/or 85 are better than Arnott as a 2C this year? If the answer is no, the trade helped this years team. Even if the answer is yes, maybe he can provide some leadership that helps. I don’t see any way it negatively impacts this year’s team.
by MikeBrady on Mar 1, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rob Niedermayer isn’t a 3C at this point. Maybe at some point in the past, but not now.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
Text:
Fedorov: 50GP, 9G, 19A, 28P, -3
Arnott: 62GP, 13G, 11A, 24P, -9
Year prior
Fedorov: 73GP, 18G, 24A, 42P, -7
Arnott: 62GP, 19G, 27A, 46P, Even
I’m clearly not stating that Arnott is the same caliber of player as Fedorov, but for all the folks saying that Arnott is done/washed up/doesn’t give a shit anymore, I’ll point out that much the same things were said about Fedorov in Columbus (and even in Anaheim before that). When he came to the Caps, Fedorov hadn’t topped 50 points in a season since before the lockout – Arnott did it just two years ago.
I have no idea what Arnott will do with the Caps, but I’m not going to rule out the possibility that being out of NSH/NJ and being on a team with (legitmate?) Cup aspirations will invigorate him – at least for a few months.
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by D'ohboy on Mar 1, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
He’s still better than Matty P. therefore he makes the team better for the rest of the season.
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I think it remains to be seen how well Arnott adapts to the Caps’ system. That’s not something you can predict with any degree of accuracy.
Yes, he’s certainly several years past his prime, but his numbers with NJ this season aren’t necessarily reflective of his production. until their recent hot run, the team was historically bad. Arnott may be rejuvenated by playing with a relatively successful young team with Cup aspirations.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 1, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
I’m also fairly convinced that the Caps can pick up a second-rounder at the draft by trading away a player or two. Wideman, for instance, could turn into a second-rounder from some team desperate for a puck-moving D.
Why would we trade Wideman so soon? Or are you talking about next year’s?
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 1, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
I think he’s talking about after the playoffs before the draft. It would help open up cap space.
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I think Ted is a smart owner, and he wants to win a Cup — which is awesome, and results in some good things. I think he also wants the Caps to be profitable — which is reasonable/understandable, but not necessarily good for the pocketbook of fans. Ultimately, I doubt he plans on paying for the burying of players out of his pocket – he will look for revenue elsewhere to cover it.
He will, but remember that he’s been paying the Cap max, thus taking $10 mill hits a year and not making a profit. Owning his own building and not renting should help the profit section. And I’m sure he’d love to raise ticket prices, as we still have some of the lowest around. But it seems like he cares more about winning, not doing attempting to win on the league minimum.
All in all, I doubt Ted will want to bury Poti, but I think he lets GMGM do what he wants and will bury Poti if GMGM asks him to.
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Arnott is slow and old, he’s not the player from the 99 team.
You realize, of course, that the exact same thing could be said of Sergei Fedorov in ’08?
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The way that Sergei was able to spark the Russians, maybe Arnott can do the same to the Canadians?
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 1, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
Well duh.
Seriously, the secondary scorers (Laich, Chimmer, and eventually Fehr) need a spark to start contributing again.
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eh, Laich is about on par with his career production when you consider how little the PP has helped him this year, Chimera’s about right. Fehr has been pretty bad, though I don’t see Arnott being able to teach him anything Knuble can’t.
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Maybe Mike Knuble can spark the Caps who were born in Canada but moved to the US at an extremely young age.
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by Rather Bengt on Mar 1, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Early in the season, when the Devils had their cap troubles, Lou was trying to get rid of anyone on the team he could, just to free up cap space. Almost everyone on the team was available, except Zajac and Parise(probably not Kovalchuk or Brodeur, but no one wanted them anyway). They found no takers for any of their roster players, due to horrid contracts.
The point is, Arnott was not the lone player deemed expendable and past prime by management. Arnott got traded because he was the only asset on the team that could have been traded.
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Arnott is hockey’s version of "Donovan McNabb,"
While I agree somewhat with the idea of your analogy… the big difference is Arnott has a Cup.
McNabb doesn’t AND he was one of the main reasons why the Eagles didn’t win.
Arnott scored the game winner in 2OT – there’s a lot to be said for that, no matter how long ago it was.
He was one of the main reasons they didn’t win, but he was pretty much the only reason they even got there.
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Further to that point, however, is that Steckel was also a healthy scratch in a number of games last year in the playoffs. How useful is a 60% faceoff percentage from the press box?
He beats King to the nachos 6/10 times. He then passes the nachos to Tyler Sloan, who still leads the team in NCC/60 (though Poti and Fehr are starting to challenge).
The problem is when Sloan sends the nachos back to Steckel, because his nacho possession numbers are very low.
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Mar 1, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Steckel would fumble the nacho chip while trying to dip it in the salsa.
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by nogoodtrying on Mar 1, 2011 8:18 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
March 18 the Caps are in NJ to play the Devils. Should be a fun game.
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quite honestly, not looking forward to being the “other team” that Steckel abuses in the dot. Although it turne Crsby into a better face-off guy, so maybe it’ll work for the Caps that aren’t named Boyd Gordon.
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why is this not green?
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With that exception, it looks very similar to our power play (although with better results).
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by mch on Mar 1, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
4,300 comments is indeed amazing. I’m proud to have contributed about 20 of those, I think.
My primary memory from yesterday was the negative reaction of some to the 2nd round pick sent with Steckel for Arnott. For some, Steckel for Arnott was good, but suddenly Steckel and a 2nd rounder for Arnott was bad. I didn’t quite get that.
The big picture is where we need to look. Sturn, Arnott, Wideman for Steckel, a 2012 #2, a 2011 #3, and a prospect (who is more “miss” than “can’t miss.”) We take on Wideman for next year, but give up Steckel’s deal for next year. I’m confident that will all net out.
I’m risk averse. Let’s take what we can now. I’m not “George-Allen-trade-all-my-picks” risk averse. However, I’m not risk seeking in the sense that the unknown of the 2nd rounder in 2012 made the difference, when I really don’t know what will be there.
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Exactly. It would be a completely different story if we were sending out first round picks left and right and were on the verge of rebuilding, but this team is ready to win NOW. I don’t see any problem with dealing some picks in order to help do that.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2011 8:59 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed. Arnott probably isn’t the 2C we were looking for (these aren’t the droids you’re looking for….move along, move along), but I’d imagine he was the best guy available at the price we paid. A guy like Weiss would have required a lot more, especially after seeing what Penner went for. Hate to lose Steckel for no other reason than I just like him, but I can’t see how Arnott doesn’t help at least a little bit. Big fan of the Wideman pickup especially if Green is going to miss any extended period. When Green returns, we’ve got another good shot for the PP.
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I’ll take that.
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Fair question – but let’s say we hold him out and he comes back in 2012-2013.
We’ve got 6, 74, 52, and 55 under contract for next year, not to mention 4 (who has improved in my eyes) and 89(!).
We’re going to resign 27. I’ll be my house on it.
That’s a nice thing to have for next year.
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Oh – I forgot about 3. Then we’ve got a better top six than I wrote: 6, 74,52,55,3,4,89 all under contract and 27 will not be let go.
Unfortunately, 23 not likely to return without other changes.
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Other changes — Namely the departure of 3, which is not bloody likely…unfortunately.
The irony with Poti is that his skill set is more similar to Wideman’s, yet we asked him to fill the role that Hannon now fills more capably. Which would be fine, let Poti go back and fulfill his original role, but now we have Carlson and Wideman who do it better in addition to Green. With Alzner and Schultz Poti is easily the 7 D on this team. And I would love to cast him away for Hannan. And this is before even mentioning his glass groin. Of course his contract precludes that.
His contract, IMO, is the worst on the team by an order of magnitude. Especially because it likely means Hannan is gone. Even if we could somehow keep Hannan is there a shot in hell Poti is happy as a 7D? I bet GMGM would like that one back.
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Mar 1, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
The Poti contract makes me physically ill. The injuries had just been piling up when they signed that extension and it was pretty easy to foresee more coming. Not to mention the market for Poti was likely not existent. What was the hurry? I’m still not convinced his eye is recovered (or ever will be) from the injury last year either.
Someone suggested the other day that maybe a team trying to meet the Cap floor would do us a favor and pick up that crap contract. Haha. One can hope.
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I’m sure the Caps could trade him somewhere to get out from the contract, but its likely to cost them a high round pick to do it, not unlike Steckel’s contract. I’m certain Brian Burke would eat Poti’s contract if the Caps gave him a first round pick for doing it.
Or, Colorado:
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Quite possibly. I don’t know enough about the financial situation of the ownership in Colorado, but in Toronto where money definitely isn’t an issue, Burke would definitely “buy” a pick by trading for Poti and then would have no problem sending him down if they wanted to use the cap space for something else.
Or perhaps the Islanders or Panthers will want help reaching the salary floor?
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Agree 100%. Before the season when GMGM gave Tom Poti the extension, I could not understand why on earth he would do that? I saw little to no upside in giving him that extension at that point in time with a year left on his current contract, and I certainly wasn’t the only one.
I feel positive about Arnott given what Alan May said about him in his most recent appearance on JRR ( admittedly I have a soft spot for May).
IIRC he thought Arnott’s veteran leadership and willingness to call out players would help spark the team and provide a nice counterpoint to Knuble’s measured responses. In short he would bring a different, rougher, but needed voice to the younger guys in the locker room.
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Apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere, but I’ve been crazy busy at work lately and haven’t had much chance to check up on such things. Is there any chance we see Arnott or Wideman in the lineup tonight? And is it safe to assume we’ll at least be getting our first look at Sturm?
Agreed. I can’t imagine, with the day off yesterday, that they aren’t at the morning skate and aren’t in the line-up tonight.
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What was interesting to me from the conference call they showed on NHLN yesterday is that they set a deadline of noon for the physicals and that the player isn’t supposed to practice with the new team until everything is completed. Since everyone has to travel the day of the trade, that makes for a very busy time to get the new guys on for morning skate at 10am.
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So in the GMGM 365 interview, he said that five prospects were untouchable yesterday. Four are easy — Kuz, Orlov, Eakin and Holtby. Who’s the fifth? Galiev? Marjo? I’m guessing he was including Marjo in that list given he’s recently been drafted but would be nice if GMGM thinks Galiev has that kind of upside. I’ve been less encouraged with Galiev — he’s having a nice year in the Q but his team is stacked and he’s 4th or 5th in scoring on the team.
Depends on his definition of prospect I suppose. He’s mentioned on several occassion that all of the keepers are/were untouchable. Are they included? Orlov would be untouchable in my eyes, but all Eakin and Kus definitely would have been on the table for the right player.
Right now you’ve got to figure that Kuznetsov is untouchable, and with his recent intereviews, possibly untradeable.
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What do you mean? Did he come off a little egocentric or something or something to related to staying in Russia?
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He’s sounding a lot like a guy who’s going to settle down and play in Russia. He’s talking about signing a contract extension with his Russian team, if I recall correctly; getting married; getting an apartment. That doesn’t look like a guy who’s burning to get to the AHL and start is North American pro career.
Which was evidently considered a possibility by the other GMs around the league on draft day, and hence why he fell to the Caps.
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I think he’s sounding like a teenager who is awash with fame. It’ll be interesting to see what tune he’s singing in a year.
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by Gould Old Days on Mar 1, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
and back in the fall, he was full of “I can’t wait to get to Washington!” and going so far as to intensively study English to make the transition easier. He sounds like a typical 18 year old to me: can’t make up his mind.
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He sounds like a typical 18 year old to me: can’t make up his mind.
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Something about an extension. Considering he still has a year to go on his current contract, doesn’t sound like he plans on trying to make the Caps any time soon.
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As I think Emily has said, it could be all talk and no action, and he does come to DC sooner rather than later. But if you’re the GM of another team, particularly one without Russians, you’re going to think twice about wanting to trade for him if he’s available.
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That was the part that amazed me the most: That GMGM was able to aquire Arnott and Wideman without giving up a marquee prospect. Since it’s been reported that many teams are leery of young Russians, I had pretty much assumed that Eakin would be gone.
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If GMGM gave up a marquee prospect for either of those players, I would have wanted him taken the way of Old Yeller, metaphorically speaking. GMGM not doing something terrible, or not doing something he shouldn’t doesn’t amaze me.
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kcarrera Tom Poti is skating on his own (as usual) this morning. In an unexpected blast from the past Calle Johansson just walked into KCI.
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Come over to the OTOT for a sec friend.
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by Charlie Foxtrot on Mar 1, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
is a dirty player and apart from him coldcocking Witt after scoring a goal I’d rather not remember him as being a Capital.
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The Capitals don’t employ dirty players after that dirtbag Dave Steckel left town.
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by jaytown99 on Mar 1, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Brashear put what, one guy on the IR during his time here?
Cooke, none?
Steckel, two.
Cleanest team in the league, now. Especially now with Ovie’s Gillette contract.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
And I was done with him when Wade Belak destroyed him.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
NYT article about the brawl, with some more info on Brash: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/01/sports/hockey/01hockey.html
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But neuvy gets the start. Maybe varly at least healthy enough to back up.
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Yeah, McNally had Varly off first and Katie then says Neuvy starts. I imagine they must have come off seconds apart. As opposed to trying to make everyone guess.
Also, very good news that Varly is not out tonight.
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Neuvy stayed out on the ice for quite a while after Varly left, working with Irbe. I assumed Varly was starting.
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Can’t really assume Varly is starting when he leaves early during his first practice back from injury. I saw that on twitter and was thinking no way they hurry him back to starting.
thing was, Varly went in with almost all the other players. it’s not like he left way early.
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by Kolzilla on Mar 1, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
New line combos?
AO, Nicky, Knuble
Sturm, MJ90, Semin
Laich, Arnott, Chimera
Hendricks, Gordon, Brads
Thoughts?
I had this exact line-up in mind, except I had Arnott and MJ90 swapped. Either way, looks a little more solid than it did just last week.
I’m guessing that Arnott and MJ90 will be tried out as both 2C and 3C from here on out to see what jells. I’m hoping that MJ90 can stick on the second line as I think they’d have enough skill to do some damage while the 3rd line becomes a cycle/grind line that can wear out the opposition. When/if Fehr comes back, I’d put him on the 3rd line and scratch Chimera.
It also wouldn’t surprise me much if there’s no clear 2nd line and 3rd line.
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by Gould Old Days on Mar 1, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
No problems here. I like the speed on the second line there.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
About right, but, I’d be worried about the 2nd line getting pushed around. Bringing back the SOB line might make the 2nd better but then they don’t really have anyone to take the shot.
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Personally I’d go
AO – Nick – Moose
Laich – Arnott – Semin
Sturm – Mackan – Chimer
Hendy – Gordo – Brads
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Hannan – Wideman
Shultz – Erksine.
3rd line becomes a speed line, and I wouldn’t want to pair the new and pretty good OFD with Erksine who can be a liability in his own right (though significantly less this year). For the time being Hannan Wideman could act just as Hannan Green though.
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You’re severely underestimating how good Sturm can be when he isn’t injured. I’d be hard pressed to give him less minutes than Laich.
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Yes when he isn’t injured, which he only just recovered from. I know he’s a speedy player and 3rd line time could help him continue to get his sea leags and learn the system.
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I’m just loathe to bury him there unless he is still recovering. Guy may turn out to be a monster for the Capitals.
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Well, luckily neither of us are BB nad probably don’t make it out to Kettler every practice so Sturm could be anything our heart’s imagine!
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He’ll get time on all 4 lines. Tis the BB way.
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yeah just waiting for “Sturm-Ovie-Knuble” line or something absurd. Boudreua must be the king of Scrabble the way he can mix and match. Too bad the words are “melonology” and “kwyjibo”
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
Shultz-Erskine is too slow, Shultz is at his best when he hangs back and plays position against guys and has a faster partner.
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So you suggest Wideman – Erksine? Seems like a catastrophe waiting to happen.
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This would lead to Puck Daddy calling it the “Laich Semin Arnott” line.
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Mar 1, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Or Semin Arnott Laich.
I think I did it wrong….lol
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It occurs to me that Laich-Mackan-Semin would be a pretty sweet shutdown/counterpunch line
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by Gould Old Days on Mar 1, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
Laich is no 2C, but lately I think his numbers are down overall partially because, rather than him not playing up to Semin’s level as his center, I think Semin has screwed up Laich some. Semin doesn’t do things by the book, doesn’t go where he’s “supposed to” or do what he’s supposed to, and there Laich is working overtime at practice getting his game/fundamentals straight.
I’m just picturing a time Laich led Semin into the O zone with a breakaway pass and Semin takes the opportunity to break off (while in the O zone) and sprint off to take a line change. Laich just standing there with a confused and frustrated look on his face, later pointing at things while talking at Semin…
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I expect Arnott gets the first bite at the 2C minutes.
He’s the devil we don’t know at this point; MJ90 has pretty conclusively demonstrated he’s not ready for 2C on a full time basis (although he’s shown some good flashes the last 2 weeks or so), but Arnott just might be a solution there.
Or so I expect the thinking to go.
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It’s a much better team/place for him to be. Like Flash, it’s better for everyone involved that he be elsewhere.
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Minus the whole “maybe playing at that elevation caused additional clot issues” for Flash. Still, he’s a perfect fit for that team. If he gets back to playing hockey he could put up some serious points with them.
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A good price? He’s going to make over a million dollars next year on a team loaded with terrible contracts it can’t trade and that needs to re-sign its best player. That’s not a good price.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
Capgeek has NJD with about $7 million to sign 6 players for next year. That wouldn’t be terrible, if one of them wasn’t Parise.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that Kovalchuk deal is looking better and better, isn’t it?
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Assuming the cap goes up about $3M next year, they’ll have a bit of extra room, but in general, yes, NJD are in a position where every cap dollar counts.
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But he needs a center, and this one costs 25% for the rest of the season.
I don’t expect all those guys are going to be there next year. Lou’s got a lot of dealing to do. He’s gonna have to bend over a bit, but he did that to himself. whats more important is that he can flip Steckel in a later deal, because he’s one of the top faceoff guys in the league, and that’s in demand as long as you don’t suck at everything else. He doesn’t suck. So now Lou can sweeten any deal with Steckel, because the 2nd rounder is the jewel.
That’s a good price.
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by The Jade Donkey on Mar 1, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
But he needs a center, and this one costs 25% for the rest of the season.
But not next season. Nor the season after that (Capgeek’s blocked at work, but he’s on the hook for two more years, correct?)
I don’t expect all those guys are going to be there next year. Lou’s got a lot of dealing to do. He’s gonna have to bend over a bit, but he did that to himself. whats more important is that he can flip Steckel in a later deal, because he’s one of the top faceoff guys in the league, and that’s in demand as long as you don’t suck at everything else. He doesn’t suck. So now Lou can sweeten any deal with Steckel, because the 2nd rounder is the jewel.
That’s a good price.
Who’s going to take all their terrible contracts off their hands? Most of them are 35+ deals like Rolston’s or what they’re paying Zubrus. I mean, a second round pick is okay, but it’s also an entire year away. Steckel’s a below average PKer, brings zero offensively, and doesn’t skate very well. Other than that, he’s great at winning faceoffs. So is Zenon Konopka, who doesn’t make nearly what DS does. They dropped an expiring contract, and added salary they really couldn’t afford to add. That doesn’t scream “good price” to me at all.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
He needs a center now, and Steckels’ is a contract he can trade away, because there are other teams that could use a top faceoff guy in their bottom 6, at a decent price. Next years draft is projected to be better, so the 2nd rounder is actually worth more a year from now than it might have been this year. Arnott was leaving anyway.
I’m not saying Steckel is a loss to cry about, and bringing in Arnott could be great for the price. We’ll see. But Lou got something he could work with.
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by The Jade Donkey on Mar 1, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
And down. :(
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Didn't see it in Caps Clips
Every year like Santa, the NHL community delivers a verdict on whose fault it will be when if the Caps fail that year, delivered on a silver platter. Last year they were saying GMGM prior to the deadline for not doing anything. (Not a ton of voices claiming he screwed em up with all the new faces though)
The headline seems to give BB a pass, but he’s thrown in there too.
I expect the team should do well, and if they don’t I’d probably put it more on Bruce than the players meself.
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They’re all spinning it now on GMGM that he should have done something over the summer to address 2C. That seems to be the main argument now.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
That’s hard to argue with… The 2C hole has still not been properly addressed. We all spent the last 3 months talking shit about Arnott and how much he sucks, and how GMGM has to find something better at 2C.
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I still don’t know where they would have gotten “the good 2C” that everyone was demanding they get.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
We can never know what’s available without the insider information. But GMGM has not shown me anything that he has the balls to make an aggressive move to improve the team. Which, to upgrade 2C, is probably what he’d have to do.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 1, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
But that’s my point. Who was available that he could have made that “aggressive” move to acquire?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Anybody’s available for the right price. Am I saying he should trade 2 firsts, and a second for a one dimensional player? But I don’t think, even if there were players available that are good 2C options (Sharp, Weiss, etc) that GMGM would make the trade. When all of GMGM’s moves are moving a pick/spare parts for an under-performing player, or spare parts, or depth, I have little faith that he will do anything to really be aggressive and fill the holes that this team has.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 1, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
If Sharp wasn’t in play in the offseason, it’s hard to say he was in play now. I think Weiss would have been an interesting experiment at 2C with the Caps, though. That could either be a Corvo bust or a really solid trade.
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Sharp was in reference to the offseason – no chance he was actually in play now.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 1, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
I was skimming through NHL Network news clips last night regarding trades/the deadline. They were talking about the market for Brad Richards at the deadline.
I don’t follow the Rangers much this year (Always liked Torts though) but the news guys said the Rangers GM HAD to get Brad Richards. That was the one and only thing they must have done this season. And they implied they tried everything they could do to get him and it still didn’t happen. Dont’ know how they would know that.
They seem to think there’s going to be a major shake-up in management up there soon/if the Rags don’t make the playoffs this year.
He had concussion issues yes, but seems like Dallas wanted way too much for him anyway.
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It’s a terrible argument. It assumes that there were players available who could play well at 2C just out there waiting to be signed.
No such player was out there.
Matthew Lombardi (he of the most PP time on the ‘Yotes, and easy competition), signed for 4 mil/yr with Nashville. He’s a fringe guy if you’re going to consider 2C – he’s got wheels and a little bit of puck skill, but his minutes inflate his numbers. He was carried by Iginla in Calgary. He’s not worth anything like that, and I said as much at the time.
I’m glad McPhee didn’t go out and overpay for a 2C in FA. Perhaps there was something available in trade at the beginning of the season, but we don’t actually know.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Even yesterday, the “jewel” was considered to be Brad Richards, who didn’t move anywhere for lots of reasons, and I’m elated they didn’t pay whatever craziness Nieuwendyk was demanding.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
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Jay Beagle has an ‘upper body injury’ according to Boudreau, so they held him out of this morning’s skate.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2011 11:21 AM EST reply actions
Oh for the love of Pete…
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Mar 1, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
That’s probably the least of any injury worries. We still have extra fourth liners on the team.
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Last season a few times, and he hung in there decently enough as an emergency IIRC.
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He had 1 goal on wing.
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did he score it against a goalie named Marty? seems to be his MO.
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Given that now we have a limited number of call ups we’re probably looking at DJK #17 time.
My understanding is that you only get an emergency call-up if you don’t have any healthy scratches at the position you need someone.
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Why? Who else isn’t playing? 83 and 17 are extras, no?
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Yah, actually I think you’re right. I was responding to the Keith Aucoin time question, but it slipped my mind that Beagle was a scratch to begin with.
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by Scott in Shaw on Mar 1, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
DGB bringing it, in his “Winners and Losers” column:
Winner: Jason Arnott – By escaping the 27th place Devils to join the Washington Capitals, the veteran center will get a chance to return to the postseason for up to six or seven games.
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Canadiens are reporting Jaro Spacek is out 4-6 weeks. Ouch.
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Ouch! What happened?
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Or scoped.
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Same difference, depending on what they’re doing in there… :-p Thanks. :-)
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I haven’t seen Olivier’s scoring chances for the Habs recently, but Spacek is shouldering a good portion of the load for them at evens. That’s going to hurt them, for sure.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Yep. And with him out for a monf, and Markov and Gorges gone for the year, that means their top 3 defensemen are all out.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
I’d have put Hamrlik in as one of the top-3 D, but it doesn’t substantially change the point.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
another d-man down? What the hell is in the water up there?
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Between them and Vancouver, they could start their own MASH unit.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Well based on the geography, Montreal is on the St. Lawrence River (or Fleuve St. Laurent in French). The St. Lawrence drains the Great Lakes, so….
What’s in the water is what ever makes it over Niagara falls from Lake Erie…. that would explain a lot.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
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San Jose Sharks goaltender Antti Niemi signed a four-year extension at nearly $4 million per year, according to a source familiar with the situation.
really?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
ok, Cap Geek says $3.8. still.
SJS has committed nearly $52 million to 14 players next season. Setoguchi is the only “name” that still needs to be re-signed, imo. The rest of the roster spots are role players.
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Is that for real? Barely passes the sniff test for me. Huge over payment
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I was thinking he still had a couple of RFA years left, but it looks like he’s UFA after this year.
$3.8M is in line with what bona-fide #1 Gs make in UFA.
I guess it depends on how you assess Niemi’s true talent level
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It does depend on that. I don’t think he’s a true #1. Maybe 1b.
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Yeah. If that was RFA years, it would be nonsensical.
As a UFA deal, it’s still too long and too much, given how little Niemi has proven. But it’s not Campbell levels of bad.
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I think I saw Capgeek Tweet that they have something like 51 million committed for next season with this deal.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
BB on number of combinations
I don’t know how many different combinations you can come up with 12 different individuals, but I think I thought of every one
Well, let’s see. If you randomly pick 3 out of 12, then 3 out of 9 and 3 out of the remaining 6, the total number is 369,600 which is a bit too much even for BB to deal with overnight. If you pick 4 centers, 4 LW and 4 RW, then the number of combinations is 576. Finally, keeping 8-19-22, 28 on the second line RW, and 15 centering the fourth leaves only 24 combinations. Hopefully BB had enough time to sleep last night.
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by fnralch on Mar 1, 2011 1:02 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Aren’t there just 64 combinations of 4 LW, 4 RW and 4 centers, rather than 576? Each of the four LWs can play with up to 16 combinations of RW/centers, so 16 × 4.
Thank you for the confirmation Wheeler . Also, keeping 8-19-22 together, keeping 28 on the second line RW, and centering 15 on the fourth line leaves 27 combinations, not 24, as I count it.
Hell Haagen-Daz has more flavors than that….
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Except that there have been waaay more than 12 forwards to play on this team this season. Include all the different Hershey callups, the times that Laich/Flash played Center instead of wing, or the times that MarJo/Steckel/Gordon/Hendricks/Beagle played wing instead of center… A lot more than 24 different line combos.
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It happens from time to time. Just means the board is feeling there isn’t enough snark, so it italicizes to insinuate it.
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by sydtron on Mar 1, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, for me it starts on syd’s post on Niemi above, and ends somewhere in the replies.
by mch on Mar 1, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
That happened to me last night in the thread over on the Kings blog, we determined the boared itself was sick of the shit show that was that game.
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by RockinRed4Life on Mar 1, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
The TSN guys were kind of down on this trade, too. They didn’t think it was enough of a return, but I think it all depends on how good the Copper n Blue guys or the TSN guys think Dustin Penner really is. I think he’s a good power forward, but not great. Teubert seems to get mixed reviews, I’ve seen some say he’ll be Top 4 and others say he’s a 5-6 defenseman.
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Which one is Arnott? Thought he was supposed to be 6’5". That dude talking to Nicky is shorter than Nicky.
The shorter one is Sturm. Arnott is the one with his back to the camera, #44.
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by apk3000 on Mar 1, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
According to Vogel, Sturm is getting RW time on the FIRST line with 8 and 19. Anyone sort of fascinated by that?
Also, Arnott is on the 2nd line with Semin and Laich, while Wideman is paired with Hannan because “he’s the best communicator of all the d-men”, per Bruce.
Also, Bruce said he figures to get all three guys PP time.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Mar 1, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
The moves 22 down to 3rd line with 90 and 25? Hmmm. Not crazy about that.
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I too would rather have Laich moved down to the third with Johansson – I like their chemistry lately.
However, having Knuble and Arnott on the same line is very redundant to me. They’re also the two slowest of the forwards, so having them together could provide easy matchups for opposing D.
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What’s up with our quiet team? Hendy was a talker, Hannan is a talker, all the new guys… Weird that a team with Ovechkin as the C would be quiet.
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by LittleMissWhiskey on Mar 1, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe Kolzig taught his new crop to shut up and just listen to him
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Well, they currently have 5 LW and 3 RW on the roster, so someone has to switch over.
Not sure if Sturm’s ever played the right, to tell you the truth.
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It’s not so much surprising that he moved to RW. It’s surprising, to me anyway, that he’s put on the first line.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Mar 1, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
None of the lines have looked great, or even good enough to want to keep together though, right?
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True enough. It also has nothing to with a the idea of a healthy Sturm on the top line – the guy can play really solid hockey when healthy.
But he’s only topped out at 13 minutes a night with the Kings. I was just more curious to the immediate adding of time he’s going to be getting, especially if he’s getting PP time too.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Mar 1, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, the only thing I might have done differently is to keep the Care Bears together after Saturday but we all know that whatever tonight’s lines are will change anyway so it’s not a big deal.
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very intriguing, bumps 22 to 3rd line, I was hoping to see 18-44-28
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 1, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
eh, dude is going to do well up there. He’ll be 3rd line almost certainly and get a minute or two more a night than he would here.
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He won’t be happy if he’s relied on to be 3C over there… He’ll catch flack if/when he can’t produce.
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If he is on the 3rd he may actually have to think about curving his stick for the first time which will probably bring down his FO% a smidge…. have you seen his curve? its almost non existent.
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by reesem37 on Mar 1, 2011 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Upset I’m gonna be missing the first couple periods of tonight’s game; wanted to see the new acquisitions. I have a feeling it’s either gonna be a disaster or go pretty smoothly, but I guess that’s sort of the norm against the Islanders.
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