Caps Claim Marco Sturm, Waive D.J. King, Recall Jay Beagle
by J.P. on Feb 26, 2011 12:56 PM EST
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A trio of Saturday transactions for the Caps, as they've reportedly claimed Marco Sturm off waivers from the L.A. Kings, waived D.J. King and recalled Jay Beagle (with Mathieu Perreault reportedly set to take a night off). Sturm's stats for the season:
Chances are, these moves are just the beginning of what's sure to be a busy next 50 hours for Caps' GM George McPhee.
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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 26, 2011 12:58 PM EST reply actions
If GMGM is busy, I hope he makes like Natty and rides the shit out of the waiver wire. No reason to give up assets the way this team is playing. Pick up Sturm, pick up Schremp, pick up Conklin, maybe a spare D. Giving away anything of value is a waste on this crew.
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by Rob Parker on Feb 26, 2011 12:59 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Pick up Conklin and un-sign Todd Ford.
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No, but we could buy out his contract, I guess.
But the arrival of Conklin would mean Neuvy back down to Hershey (I think he’s waiver-exempt still, but not entirely sure. Varly is waiver-eligible now and would last exactly zero seconds.)
And that just doesn’t seem right, somehow.
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Can’t buy it out now – can only do that during a window in the offseason (and since I can’t imagine it’s more than a deal for the current season, it’s moot).
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No. If we claim a 3rd goalie, he’d stay up. That’s clear to me.
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Right – a la Huet/Kolzig/Johnny.
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And considering we have barely had two guys healthy for two weeks at a time, it would probably be less disruptive than the last time we carried 3 G.
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Conklin is UFA, annual salary of $1.3M. That’s roughly cap hit of $400K?
We’d have $3M left, pending DJ King subtraction.
CapGeek seems to have already added Sturm, but not subtracted King.
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King has not cleared yet and has not been assigned anywhere yet, i think. when that happens, his cap hit will be off
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He’ll clear Monday at noon, unless he gets picked up.
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Not tomorrow at noon? Sunday is a day off?
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the NHL offices, like Chik-fil-a, are closed on Sunday.
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by can't skate on Feb 26, 2011 1:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
then I’d have $0.00.
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Yes. Weekend waivers clear on Monday.
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From the CBA
13.18 The request for Regular, Re-Entry and Unconditional Waivers to Central Registry will be processed every day at 12:00 noon New York time. The following specifies the schedule within which a Waiver claim must be made:
DISPATCHED WAIVER PERIOD
Monday 24 hours Tuesday
Tuesday 24 hours Wednesday
Wednesday 24 hours Thursday
Thursday 24 hours Friday
Friday 24 hours Saturday
Saturday 48 hours Monday
Sunday 48 hours Tuesday
If he went on today, he won’t clear until Monday.
I’d rather they trade a low round pick (as in 5th) to the Isles for Nabby. Or would the Isles say “nyet” out of spite?
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This was pretty much where I was last night – why give up significant assets when this team is so clearly not a piece or two away from contending? If they move anything of value for a rental, I’ll likely be pretty pissed (but a little bit excited – my head and heart don’t always work together).
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Sigh…I was really hoping we could pull SOMETHING together for the playoffs and at least see what kind of hand we get dealt with seedings and who we draw. Just feels like a cluster right now. Even I am depressed about the team today.
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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 26, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with you 100% JP. I don’t want them to get crazy on this years chance. Last years would’ve been the time to go for it maybe, I don’t mind them trading picks, but I don’t want to lose the guys they have now. I feel like if they stay the course, they’re going to really be good through the next 5 years.
-These go to eleven.
I do not want them to make changes, but I do not think they will be good the next 5 years if they continue to play the style of this year. It is really boring hockey to watch, and when it works it only seems to work to the tune of a one goal game. What it does do is get us shut out 9 times.
by CapsFanSince1979 on Feb 26, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
Wrt to the team’s current slump in form, can I be the one to offer this weird thought? I kind of hope we have a really really bad next 10 games so that we have to fight and scrap to make the playoffs. Look at last year’s Eastern Conf. Final: #7 seed vs. #8 seed, while the 1 seed that cruised into the playoffs didn’t make it past the first round (not naming any names). Maybe it’s best to have to fight right at the end?
Why put off 'til tomorrow what you can put off 'til the day after tomorrow?
Maybe that will provide the desperation the teams needs to actually play hard. I’m skeptical, but over the last few years the motivation this team has responded to has generally been of two varieties: 1) OMG we fucking need to win this game or we are done for the year! (Offer not valid on game 7.) 2) I fucking HATE PHI/PIT so I’m going to play with some balls today so we can at least beat them. (Offer not valid on game 7.)
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by Rob Parker on Feb 26, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
It worked though.
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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 26, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
How dare you ruin the narrative!
And statistically, how you do in your last 10-20 games or how your goalie does isn’t very predictive of playoff performance, unless your performance over that stretch is neither hot nor cold.
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by red army line on Feb 27, 2011 1:55 AM EST up reply actions
Sturm
What should we expect from this guy? Will he play? And if he plays, who does he replace in the line-up?
by TheGreat8 on Feb 26, 2011 1:02 PM EST via mobile reply actions
He’s versatile. Wing with speed and some skill, but is defensively responsible so you could slot him anywhere from first to third line.
We’ll see if he’s healthy enough to help us.
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Why LA waive him then after they traded for him?
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Lombardi simply didn’t think he would be claimed. He’s just now getting healthy. Lombardi is going to be making moves this weekend or Monday, and he needed the cap space for possibly a big fish.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 26, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Or he did not think he was worth the salary for the remainder of the year and is being asked to control costs by ownership. Put him out there so someone takes the $ from them.
by CapsFanSince1979 on Feb 26, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Could be that too, although they need scoring help pretty badly like the Capitals do. And he was finally actually showing signs of slowly returning to more regular minutes.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 26, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
Depends what they want to shake up. F&B just basically said what I was going to say but better right below.
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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 26, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
Added bonus points to J.P. for including the pic of Marco in the retro Kings jersey.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 26, 2011 1:04 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Aren’t they making that the new one next season? Or at least reverting to purple and yellow as main colors?
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I hope so.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 26, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
That’s their 1960s retro alternate. When the NHL went from 6-12, the TV contract with NBC stipulated that 2 of the teams had to be in California and all of the new teams should have differnent colors than the original 6. The NHL came up with Oakland (with Teal and gold), LA (purple and gold), Philly (Orange and Black), Minnesota (Green and gold), St. Louis (Blue and gold) and Pittsburgh (Blue and Black). NBC was big on pushing bright colors as color TV was new in the 1960s and because they were owned by a company that made and sold TVs (RCA, which was later acquired by GE). The idea was to get folks to buy color TVs…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 26, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
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by EmilyB on Feb 26, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The NHL Network did an episode of “A Day That Changed the Game” on the 1966 expansion and how the cities were selected. NBC wanted to make sure they had new teams in each of the three largest populated time zones, and two in California (the original plan was LA and Seattle or Vancouver, but NBC insisted on the Bay Area, even though the only suitable arena was in Oakland. not in San Francisco.) It was also interesting to see that one bid that was turned down was from Baltimore. Had that happened, it’s likely the Caps would not be in NHL, or at least not the current franchise. They received a bunch of bids from LA, from the other cities, along with two from Buffalo and Vancouver: two bids that were rock solid, but NBC didn’t want those cities for the TV contract. Both of those bids were represented in 1969 and awarded teams in 1970.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 26, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
Wow
0.53 points/game. That’s good for 4th on our team. Is he healthy?
Why put off 'til tomorrow what you can put off 'til the day after tomorrow?
Hurt early in the season, just got healthy. Don’t know if he’s hurt again, I thought he was just starting to play and get the rust off.
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He just came back from injury and got an assist Thursday. LA Times article claims he wasn’t expected to get picked up off waivers.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-kings-sturm-20110226,0,3017980.story
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Walton tweeting that King may be headed to Hershey.
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That should have happened long ago. We’d have saved a few valuable cap dollars that way
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Sturm...
… is going to likely be put into the roster spot that Eric Fehr had prior to his injury. Fehr as we all know is going to be out for two four who knows how many weeks with the shoulder problem. Estimating how long a shoulder problem takes to heal is the same as estimating the length of a piece of string when you can’t see it. There’s no real way to tell. Sometimes shoulders don’t heal properly at all (consider Michael Nylander) .
If Sturm works out, then maybe he gets an extension. If he plays well and then goes on to another team after the season, that’s ok too, since Eric Fehr might be back by training camp (I hope it’s sooner).
Of course we need to speculate on his number now, since 10 is obviously not available. He has also worn 16 and 19, both of which are also not available (19 with the Sharks, 16 with Boston). I would say he probably picks up the 9 jersey vacated by Brendan Morrison, or perhaps Flash’s 14 jersey.
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It would be too soon for someone to take on Flash’s 14, I think. Bad karma.
But for random number speculation? Let’s follow the number progression: 19, 16, 10, which would be a -3 then a -6, so in progression -9 would be 1. Nope, taken by Varly. Maybe Sturm takes #40 and confuses all visitors who see those of us with Varlamov #40 jerseys from the past two seasons.
Thus, with no real basis for anything, I say he takes #36.
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It’s actually against the NHL bylaws for a skater to wear #1. Goalies can wear 1 or 20 and above, while skaters can wear any number from 2 through 98.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 26, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
They don’t allow 0 or 00 anymore either, or any numbers that begin with 0, like 05. Since they did that, it makes former Cap Neil Sheehy the greatest player to ever wear “0”, which he did in Hartford before coming to the Caps. St. Louis GM John Davidson was the only player to wear 00.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 26, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
Can we give him #28?
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by Kolzilla on Feb 26, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I know very little about Sturm. Thoughts from anyone who’s seen him quite a bit?
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Speedy player (or he was before his injury—haven’t really seen him since he left Boston), decent offensive abilities, solid defensively. In other words, he doesn’t necessarily have to be a top-6 player to be effective.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Feb 26, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Heh, no stiff to be sure, but let’s just say to be a LW on the Kings you don’t have to be a worldbeater.
Since coming back from the tendinitis, he looked like he was getting his bearings in the Ducks game, but against the Wild looked fine.
I think he’s still getting up to speed, but he’s a good depth acquisition for the Caps.
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by Niesy on Feb 26, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
We had a visit from Niesy of Jewels for the Crown. She also said:
By all accounts he seems like a swell guy and a good teammate. Best of luck to him going forward.
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by Niesy on Feb 26, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
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I’d be happy to answer any more questions if I can.
When he first came back from the injury, Terry Murray pushed him pretty hard (something I questioned at the time), but he had decent production. Then the tendinitis flared up. He’d been recovering from that before he returned Feb. 23rd.
I’d say he’s not up to top speed yet but he is healthy.
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Had they been playing Sturm on any of the special teams Niesy?
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 26, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
In his first stint, yes — and had 1 power play goal.
In his second stint (only two games) no special teams time against the Ducks, :48 on the PK against the Wild. Around 13 minutes TOI. Murray was conscious that they were easing him back in.
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Thanks for the info mate. Have you heard any rumblings the Kings way via trades? Keep hearing these Hemsky to the Kings rumours…any legitimacy?
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 26, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
That’s probably up to Tambellini. He apparently keeps asking for Schenn and nothing else. But the Kings need a 2nd line center going forward, so that doesn’t work for us.
We have many, many other great prospects or even roster players that I could see moving, but I don’t think a year of Hemsky is worth the value of Schenn to our team. I’d rather we do nothing if it comes to that.
Interesting times…
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Taking Schenn out of the picture, who are the Kings offering at this point? I know I have read Wayne Simmonds name all over. Would Jarret Stoll be shopped?
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 26, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
They want more than Stoll or Simmonds most likely.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 26, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
I was asking in general about who the Kings were offering as trade bait, not just for Hemsky.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 26, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
With Stoll, there are a lot of variables. Are we trading for another center? There is talk that DL is interested in Weiss like he was interested in Fisher. With Lokti out now, apparently, it’d leave us with Kopi, Zeus, and a rookie (Trevor Lewis) at that position. But Stoll does a lot — penalty kill and power play, great faceoff man. We also need some experience at center going into next year.
Bob McKenzie threw some cold water on the idea of a young core player moving. As with anything, I suppose it would depend on the return. For a big name? Sure, I think some would move. But we don’t see many big names out there, as far as we know.
I think an offer floating around in a rumor was Simmonds or Clifford + Voynov or Teubert + 1st for Hemsky. Voynov is actually NHL-ready IMO, it’s just that we have tons of defensemen. If Tambellini would rather keep Hemsky, I understand that point of view. Really, the Oilers have lots of reasons to keep him.
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My understanding is that Hemsky wasn’t really “available” per say. Just that Tambellini would listen to offers, and basically if he could get a huge return, he’d bite and deal him.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 26, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
I have seen Sturm a fair bit on the international scene, playing for Germany at the World Championships and the Olympics, as well as in other minor international tournaments. He always impressed me, sadly even against our national team at times. Especially with his defensive play. His play along the boards seemed especially strong with solid grinding and determination to go for the puck, though this is a few years back.
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At first glance, I like this. Sturm’s been a consistent 20-goal scorer for the last decade, except one year where he was hurt. Maybe he’ll get the offense going with an injection of new blood. I’m assuming we won’t see him tonight though.
Where will he end up playing? 2nd line maybe? Or on the 3rd with Mackan and Chimera?
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I’m starting to wonder if Chimera will be a Capital come Monday at 3pm. Nothing specific, but just thinking he might be someone that could head out, especially given his recent performance.
The con here is that he appears to be the type of guy that GMGM likes.
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If Sturm is speedy, he could possibly be an effective winger with Mackan and Chimera. A line that fast with a scorer, set-up man, and net crasher could be dangerous.
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That’s putting two left wings and a center on one line; I don’t really see that happening.
Honestly, I think one of the things you could see GMGM do is demote Perreault back to Hershey; this would free up Brooks Laich to play at 3C, which is a role to which he’s a bit more suited than 2C. Chimera-Laich-Fehr*/Gordon/Bradley could be an effective energy line with some size. Sturm-90-28 makes some sense as a scoring line, too.
He once finished second in the Fastest Skater skills competition.
Of course that was 12 years ago……. :/
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by TrolleyLeaguer on Feb 26, 2011 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
Weird Stat for Sturm
He played a bunch of years with Boston so he’s only played 11 games against them, but in those 11 games he’s scored 7 goals. The team has scored the most goals against is Montreal (15) but that’s in 38 games.
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Line combos?
When/if Fehr comes back, and assuming this is our only move and the impossible scenario in which we actually make the playoffs everyone is healthy, where does this leave us in the postseason? I’ll take a stab.
8-19-22
28-90-16
Sturm-85-21
25-39-26
This move, this lineup. So bleh. I guess Bradley and Gordon can sit. But, bleh.
Like I told my brother, “we’ve got a serious logjam,” and like he said back to me, “a logjam of mediocre.”
so sturm on the second line for now maybe?
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You’re also assuming Fehr will be ready then… I’m not holding my breath on that one, alas.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 26, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Like this move.
Our secondary scoring has gone to hell, and like someone mentioned above, Sturm would be good for 4th in points per game on this team.
He had a few 20 goal seasons with San Jose and Boston – you make a line like
Sturm – 2C – Semin
That’d be intriguing.
And King getting waived just makes it more blatantly obvious that said trade was a giant black mark.
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No, its just that he’s the one guy who doesn’t have to clear waivers.
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I read it as convenience. For example, MP85 is waiver-exempt (forget that he’s only on the roster because of the C mess and started the season in Hershey). The only other player on the roster who is that is MJ90, and he’s not going to Hershey, even on paper. If we needed the roster spot until the deadline,Perreault would be shipped to Hershey post-haste. But he could be back on Tuesday (if we need his spot, he’s probably not coming back, but I think you get the point).
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I have a feeling that Perreault is getting demoted tonight after the Isles game. The Caps aren’t playing on Monday and that frees up a roster spot for an AM move if GMGM needs to make one.
The Prelude
The Kings are looking for scoring wingers. The Caps, while in need of more scoring, are looking for a center.
Something tells me that this move is just a prelude to some other moves for both teams. The Kings needed to clear some space to bring in another wing and the Caps needed to get another wing because one of theirs is headed out to get a center.
I blame Schultz
SEMIN FOR STASTNY SEMIN FOR STASTNY SEMIN FOR STASTNY SEMIN FOR STASTNY SEMIN FOR STASTNY SEMIN FOR STASTNY SEMIN FOR STASTNY SEMIN FOR STASTNY SEMIN FOR STASTNY SEMIN FOR STASTNY SEMIN FOR STASTNY SEMIN FOR STASTNY SEMIN FOR STASTNY STURM FOR STASTNY SEMIN FOR STASTNY SEMIN FOR STASTNY SEMIN FOR STASTNY
See FnB’s comment above about shiny toys. ;)
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 26, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but Stastny wouldn’t be a rental, so it’s a move that helps for more than just this season.
Release the Mackan!
by Killer_Carlson on Feb 26, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Who would do The Bang Bang Dance with Stastny after Caps wins?
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by Chris Burton on Feb 26, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
i can picture the .gif in my mind right now
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Carlson can do the bang bang and then he can teach stastny how to beat that beat up
Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."
Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.
Better fucking not be David Steckel.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 26, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
A 6.7 million dollar wing?
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Well, I could see a three-way deal where the Caps send Semin to the Kings, the Kings send a goalie and a defensive prospect to the Avs and the Avs send Stastny to the Caps.
But I’m just pulling that completely out of my butt.
I blame Schultz
We would also have to give up considerably more than Semin to land Stastny back. Maybe like a gift card to a really nice restaurant.
The Avs are your Palm player of the game and get to enjoy a $100 gift card
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As it just so happens...
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I love three team trades. Make it happen GMGM or I am starting a D’oh for Caps GM movement.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 26, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Who do we want?!
When do we want it?!
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by Steck It Out on Feb 26, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
This was my thinking as well, we’ll see what happens though.
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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 26, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Kings are in on Hemsky, I believe, and this was a precursor to that.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 26, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Side note: those Kings’ alternate threads Sturm has on in that photo are amazing.
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95% of the reason I posted this, since I wasn’t breaking any news that wasn’t already being discussed in the AM Clips.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 26, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
related: why can’t we have blue alternates??? I want them so bad
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It was stunning when the Los Angeles Kings placed Sturm on waivers yesterday, considering he had just returned from injury and waived his no-trade clause with the Boston Bruins to rejoin GM Dean Lombardi with the Kings earlier this season.
His claim by the Capitals today wasn’t a surprise based on their needs: scoring depth and a kick in the ass after a lackadaisical 6-0 loss at home to the New York Rangers last night.
But it is interesting to see the Caps make a waiver claim on a $3.5 million cap hit (which will be pro-rated) considering they have $1,613,658 in projected cap space via Cap Geek. This could mean a trip for defenseman Tom Poti(notes) to LTIR, considering he makes $3.5 million against the cap.
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Don’t we only get half of that $3.5M cap hit since it was a waiver claim?
Why put off 'til tomorrow what you can put off 'til the day after tomorrow?
Caps get the pro-rated amount left in the season.
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yes, he can be put on LTIR all season. But it’s not quite “not have his cap hit count” it would just allow the caps to go over the cap by Poti’s salary, should they need to.
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Which is essentially the same thing for a team that is going to be so close to the cap all year. Only difference is that it wouldn’t let us bank a ton of cap space over the course of the year. But we didn’t end up banking much this season despite having that cap cushion.
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Actually we had enough banked and available to take on a 7-8M salary at the deadline with only minor tweaks to the roster. Not that anyone is holding their breath.
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From Helene Elliott ....yesterday
Marco Sturm was placed on waivers yesterday by the LA Kings, but is expected to go unclaimed and could rejoin them today. He was put on waivers to create roster flexibility for Monday’s trade deadline. They are at the max 23 roster players and didn’t want to risk losing one of their younger players. "We have to waive a player now because you cannot do it at the deadline. You need 24 hours,"
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This isn’t like baseball where the waiving team can pull back the player, is it? Sturm is now ours. If he was placed on waivers Friday, then the waiver period ended at noon today.
No.
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by red army line on Feb 26, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Sturm is now a Cap and I expect he’ll be on a plane shortly to meet the team back in DC tomorrow.
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Don’t you hate when that happens?
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Elliott also didn’t like the Sturm acquisition in the first place, and will be calling for his head again if he doesn’t make a major move at the deadline.
Many people wanted to keep Loktionov up over Sturm, but he just got injured last night. It’s one of those cost/benefit analyses people are running before the trade deadline is even over.
Losing Sturm was a risk he was prepared to take.
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This is completely unimportant, but...
I have always liked Sturm. And I find this acquisition funny. I got an Xbox two months ago (finally, after all this time, thanks baby) and have been playing NHL 11 (thats all I wanted, and its all I really play, happily). To learn the game, since I haven’t played but a few times since my original Xbox went caput years ago, I created a player and went into be a pro mode, going undrafted straight to the caps. Figured it was a good way to learn to play again. My team, 3 seasons in, is weird. i spent half the first season in hershey, then got moved up to the caps 3rd line, with chimera and fehr. Then the next season, half my team changed (Alzner was let go, wtf?) but I ended up with Sturm on the second line. I score with that mofo all the time, though his passing is shite.
No relevance to real players, obviously, but more than once I’ve thought how the Caps could have used a healthy Sturm and his solid two-way play over the past year (and last as well). Now, here he is. So I’m happy, in a what does it really matter kind of way.
Like i’ve said for quite some time this season, giving up assets for this years team seems a waste. Wait till the summer when prices are more reasonable and the deals are designed with more than a hope and a prayer in mind. Our boys have dropped too far in trade value this year. I’d have moved Fehr last summer; flash too, but I like the Hannan pick up. Last year was the year to go all in.
This is the year you play your hand as far as possible, watch the flop, assess, and likely fold. We’re playing with middling cards, and they’re off-suit.
It really does suck.
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by The Jade Donkey on Feb 26, 2011 2:10 PM EST reply actions
Yeah, I’m quite happy with it as well. I’ve always liked Sturm, except when he played against us in international competition.
Also, I had a somewhat similar experience with NHL 10, though I eventually got traded to the Kings, who had Malkin (Malkin to the Kings!), Hossa and Brown as their first line. On defence their number one pair was Keith and Grebeshkov.
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I wake up to this! Guess I should wake up earlier. I really don’t know that much about Sturm other than he can’t be more useless than DJ King. After I post this though, I will read the comments. Also, a 3.5 mil cap hit is much more significant than that of DJ King.
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Cap hit isn’t that big. Pro-rated for the rest of the year and he’s an UFA.
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Yea, I just read the comments and got down to this one. Silly me. So basically it’s only 150k more than King?
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 26, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
It is, but they can get cap space by putting Poti on LTIR (which I think was going to happen anyway). This move speaks to me that Fehr probably isn’t close to coming back, or they’re at least not sure.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 26, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
And if Fehr and his wonky shoulders did come back, so what, I says?
6’4" with no physical upside, no consistent point production, and only one year where he met any sort of expectations, (plus, it was during a year where everyone followed the leader and played above their capabilities) during an injury-riddled short career full of less than inspired performances and a nose for staying out of traffic, corners, altercations, physical play, and consistent effort. Pass. I wish it was different, but everytime I see the guy, I think Getzlaf. Coming back to earth showed us what Fehr is really capable of, and thats frustrating fans and coaches.
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by The Jade Donkey on Feb 26, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe that’s what people see, but every year the stats—rate stats, Corsi, zone shift, now scoring chances—say otherwise.
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by red army line on Feb 26, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
I saw two goals in the Winter Classic..
:)
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by EmilyB on Feb 26, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Coming back to earth showed us what Fehr is really capable of, and thats frustrating fans and coaches.
Or it’s possible that, like most of the team, Fehr is neither as good as he was last season, nor as bad as he is this season.
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by Killer_Carlson on Feb 26, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And has been discussed a bunch with Knuble, Fehr is a complimentary player, not a guy that is going to drive a line on his own. When the talent doesn’t play well, the complimentary pieces are going to look poor as well.
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Not quite sure about that. I’m thinking right now Fehr can both drive a line (well, a 3rd or 4th, not 1st or 2nd) and be a complement, but is pretty bad at switching modes when he needs to, not realizing trying to drive a line when he already has AO-19 is counterproductive.
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by red army line on Feb 26, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
I think Fehr will always be a force multiplier, whether he’s on the 1st line or the 3rd line. That’s just the guys game. His game is based on going to good areas and using his shot, which is probably still his best asset.
I’d never expect him to carry any line. If he’s supposed to, we’re in trouble.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 26, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
I just hope he sorts out his game so that his effectiveness doesn’t drop as TOI rises.
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by red army line on Feb 26, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
King
Was worthless…I know alot of us were happy to see a real enforcer hit the team, but since he really didnt play to much and he did less than Brash in anything other than fights…And he really didnt fight in the first place. Only a few times and most of those were old rivalries and matched-up BS. I was hoping for more out of King so I guess losing him isnt amazing…Plus Hendricks has really stepped up.
Do not call him worthless…he was a good teammate off ice and I am reasonably sure he mentored a lot of the Caps in fighting techniques and whatnot. I know for sure that Hendricks was consulting with him in the Toronto game after Matt got bloodied by Mike Brown.
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I agree. He wasn’t good on the ice, but he did seem to have some role as a fighting coach. I’m glad he isn’t eating up a roster spot, but no hard feelings either.
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I still think King could of been capable on ice if given more games. I don’t recall him looking horrid when he did play other than picking some silly times to fight. He’s merely the victim of being a poor acquisition because of Hendricks.
He was brought in to be an enforcer but Hendricks has been doing that in addition to center, agitator, energy guy, grinder, checker, etc etc. Management obviously saw that, and its much better to have 1 guy good at a lot of things over 1 guy who’s decent at some things and only great at 1 thing.
Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."
Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.
I do remember King being terrible when playing. I can think of at least two goals that are directly his fault. And that’s in minimal TOI. And I’m pretty sure one of them was against TOR. Both of those games went to SO, so not giving up that goal could have been helpful.
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Watching King last night during warm-ups made it painfully clear why he doesn’t get a sweater most nights. He clearly did not look like he belonged whatsoever.
I blame Schultz
You must be mistaken. GMGM told us he’s not just a goon, that he can play. He wouldn’t lie.
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I just had an image of DJ King being hired by the Caps front office in the role of “advisor” :)
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 26, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
It’d be nice if when AO fought, he won…
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by red army line on Feb 26, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
I agree. Boudreau barely played the guy. He just doesn’t fit on this team really. He was looking better on the ice lately too.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 26, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Well I call him worthless. He didnt do much for the team. I did see him teach a few things to Hendricks at KCI one practice, but since Hendricks can hold his own “most” of the time…he was worthless. It didnt help that BB didnt play him much, but you should make the most of what you get.
come on, seriously? Make the most of 3 minutes a game? After not playing for two months? I call BS. He deserved a better chance than what he got. Others did.
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by The Jade Donkey on Feb 26, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
Well if you get 3 mins a game and you were acquired to be an enforcer and the opportunity arrises to take on another enforcer than you should do it. And BB would play him when there was an opportunity to do so against certain teams. And then that comes back to the original question of WHY was he acquired in the first place?
No, you shouldn’t just go fight the other enforcer just to do it. That sort of hockey is in the past. He was acquired to keep other teams from running around and taking cheap shots like they did after Brashear left. Hard to police when you don’t even get a sweater. The guy is a better hockey player than what BB has made him out ot be by scratching him for months at a time. BB doesn’t like enforcers, and he’s proved it with Brash and now King.
Stephen Peat couldn’t play hockey. King was way better than Peat. Its a shame he never got the chance to prove it.
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by The Jade Donkey on Feb 26, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
I agree about the “protection” part he provided but there were times he played where he failed to do that…Hence why I call him worthless…
I don’t mean to say the guy was great. He wasn’t that skilled. I just don’t think he was utilized correctly, thats all. BB made him worthless by finding nothing in him that was worthy.
That chapter is now ended. This season is soon to be ended as well.
Heads will roll.
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by The Jade Donkey on Feb 26, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, seems to be the story of the whole year, eh, roster wide?
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by The Jade Donkey on Feb 26, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
I’m going to say that I don’t think King ever got a fair shot. He was never played enough to get a feel for the team, never got to contribute in any way, and went months in between games. I’ve seen other players questionably get more chances than King ever got.
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by The Jade Donkey on Feb 26, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
I agree. I don’t think Boudreau will EVER give enforcers a fair shake for playing time. King even looked decent on the forecheck at times this season.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 26, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
He didn’t look like he sucked so bad he shouldn’t be playing, thats for sure. Could have sat Laich many a night and given King a fair shake.
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by The Jade Donkey on Feb 26, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
He wasn’t better than the players that were getting a sweater in place of him. If it was even close to debatable than he would have gotten dressed more.
At his normal best he would get the puck in deep and tie the other teams defender up for 5 seconds before skating back out of the zone. There isn’t a lot of value added in that.
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From the Not Again Again Department per Vogs
Varly Hurt, Ford up to back up, MP already to Hershey
Sheesh.
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I think we all saw that coming.
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Makes more sense now.
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Unless someone grabs him just because.
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Good thing we aren’t last in line! None of the contenders are gonna get him. Maybe the NYI take him though. Dicks.
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It would be pretty funny if the Isles claimed Conklin, and Conklin didn’t report.
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by STLSpidey on Feb 26, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ha!
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 26, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
Signing Ford and hustling to get him on waivers yesterday seemed so random.
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I think I want the concessions to supply the Caps with groin-sized ace bandages. I’d become an instant millionaire.
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As in someone knew Varly was already hurt yesterday in morning skate? And why Neuvy probably wasn’t pulled? I figured it was because Varly was playing tonight.
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They knew. And there wasn’t much point in pulling Neuvy. The team looked like shite, no reason to blow up two ’tenders.
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my head is spinning trying to make sense of all of this.
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This is the order that makes more sense.
Varly hurt.
Ford recalled.
MP sent down to make room for Ford.
King waived.
Sturm claimed.
Beagle called up to be 12th forward, with MP and King out and Sturm not yet here.
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Now Backstrom to wing.
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And actually, my sequence should have “Ford Signed” after Varly Hurt.
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I am a twitter rook…in checking http://twitter.com/vogscaps…I don’t see anything on Varly being hurt…assume I am missing something?
They don’t dress Ford if Varly is healthy. Simple.
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I wasn’t questioning, just trying to understand if I am not looking at the same twitter feed others are. Simple.
I also follow @vogscaps and didn’t see anything. I was wondering the same as you and wondered how I had missed all of this. Still can’t find original reports.
cmasisak22 Lots of #Caps news from @vogscaps – Perreault to minors, Varlamov injured, Neuvirth to start tonight, Todd Ford signed/recalled to back up.
gfcaps fan had it in the clips thread
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by red army line on Feb 26, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
Vogs told him, but not on Twitter, or by DM.
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No Press Release from the Caps, but...
…it appears the claim is official:
http://capitals.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8464979
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still in his bruins uni, LOL.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 26, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
cmasisak22
Also from @vogscaps – Backstrom likely to play wing vs #Isles. So 4 centers are Johansson, Steckel and some combo of Gordon/Hendricks/Laich?
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um, yeah, so maybe I don’t want to watch this game at all.
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Might be the night to do taxes.
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I’m going out for dinner and gambling. That would be reverse taxes, I guess.
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Not quite. If you lose money it’s the same as paying taxes. If you win money, then you have to pay taxes on the winnings.
Nice.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 26, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
Gambling would serve the same purpose as watching tonight’s Caps game.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 26, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
That’s kind of my feeling. Who know’s what will come up?
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have another night at the bar planned with the ladies from last night. maybe we’ll just find a bar that doesn’t have TVs.
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At least that’s a smart move. Even I thought of this last night. If he’s not taking draws, why is he on a line without another center?
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How about just letting his thumb heal for a few days, because if he goes down for an extended period of time, the caps aren’t just toast, they’re charcoal.
Cautionary with Green, but let Backstrom play with a busted thumb. Makes little sense to me. Its obviously not well enough, if he can’t take draws. You telling me he can shoot and pass just fine? BS.
Its a bad move being made by a desperate club.
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by The Jade Donkey on Feb 26, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
Depends on whether the injuries can get worse. Backstrom right now is still better than all but, max, 3 forwards on the roster. Head injuries are notorious for getting worse each successive time, especially when bunched together. I’m not sure how long it’ll take for Backstrom’s thumb to heal if he sits out versus if he plays.
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by red army line on Feb 26, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
You’ll find out when he gets squashed up against the boards digging for the puck as a winger and needs to use his hands to protect himself.
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by The Jade Donkey on Feb 26, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
Remember the words of Jimmy McGinty: “Winners always want the ball… when the game is on the line.” Playing through pain is part of being a winner. For Green with the head shot, if he couldn’t skate well, then he has to be off the ice. But Nick can skate, so he’ll want to play, even if it isn’t a great idea.
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because he broke the tip of his thumb. it’s almost impossible to make that injury worse. if he wants to play through it, then he can play through it.
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Strange line up, but it could be intersting:
8-90-19
28-21-22
25-83-26
39-15-10
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 26, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Bax shouldn’t be playing at all top line minutes against the Isles’ grinders.
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AO better bring his A game, since Bailey and Nielsen own their assignments, and so far this season 90 and broken 19-centered lines get owned.
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by red army line on Feb 26, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting as probably getting OWNED? Yeah, it’s fascinating.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 26, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Dunno, it’s not like the Caps are taking on a particularly good team (hard working yes, talented, not as much). I think Ovechkin-Backstrom-Johansson would be fun to watch.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 26, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Well, the Rangers with their injuries, are basically not very talented (or at least raw) and play with tenacity and heart. Look how that turned out.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 26, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
The Rangers have more talent than the Islanders do, even in their injured state. Last night was a disaster all the way around, but I don’t think the Caps will let that get to them.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 26, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
I’m trying to figure out who’s more to blame for the fact that Backstrom is even playing through the injury tonight. You could blame Boudreau based on his track record of not resting players for inconsequential games. You could blame McPhee for giving Boudreau no other options.
Not good.
some friends and I were having this discussion last night, more more along the lines of, for a “minor” injury like Backstrom’s, do you treat him like an adult, because he is an adult, and let him play if he wants to play? These guys are competitive, they don’t want to sit out, with this particular injury you’re not going to make it any worse. If he says he wants to play, should people respect that?
On this particular case, I keep finding myself coming down on the “if he wants to play, let him play” side of things.
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If he’s not going to improve then the Caps are fucked anyway. That means we’ll go through the rest of the season with Backstrom on the wing and we’ll be dispatched quickly in the first round.
If there is a possibility that his hand improves enough that he’ll be able to take faceoffs and, eventually, regain strength on his shot, then the team should do everything in its power to make sure he heals in time for the post-season.
Athletes always say they want to play, especially hockey players. Especially hockey players not named Phil Kessel. That’s why the coaches and medical staff need to have the courage to tell players they’re not allowed to play.
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by Kolzilla on Feb 26, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
but in this case, sitting out Backstrom does what? The thumb is going to heal if he plays or sits out. it’s not going to heal faster by sitting out.
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If it really won’t heal faster by sitting then I guess I understand. I’m just not positive that’s the case.
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I’m just going by my experience with the same injury.
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And ultimately none of us know exactly what’s going on so maybe playing him is the right call. But if there’s any chance that playing him now could prolong the healing process then I’m fully against it.
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Fair enough. I wasn’t sure they had given an exact diagnosis, and I kind of don’t trust whatever they say anyway.
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it’s broken above the top joint. it’s not even in a splint off the ice, just a little tape job.
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But enough to prevent face offs. I assume that’s a pain thing and not a function thing then?
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probably. I know I didn’t swing bars for about 10 days because of the pain, but after that it was fine. I’m not all that well-versed in face-offs, but I imagine you’re gripping your stick pretty tight?
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 26, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
nothing is sacred on the Rink, fellow RB
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Yeah and your hands take whacks all the time.
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by Rob Parker on Feb 26, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I like the basis of a Boyes-Stewart for Semin deal. Not sure what would be needed to be added, but the salaries are close. Would give us,
OV – Backstrom – Knuble
Sturm – Boyes – Stewart
Laich – Johansson/Perrault – Fehr (when he is healthy)
Chimera – Steckel/Gordon – Hendricks/Bradley (one would replace Fehr while out)
by CapsFanSince1979 on Feb 26, 2011 2:45 PM EST reply actions
I don’t see it happen. Boyes doesn’t play centre this year , mainly wing I do believe. And why would StL give up on Stewart already. I think we should target Berglund off the Blues if anyone.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 26, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
Boyes has played the wing due to the centre depth, but he plays the middle as well. I am not saying they are giving up Stewart, they wants offense, and Semin would give them more than Stewart.
by CapsFanSince1979 on Feb 26, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
Berglund. Berglund. Berglund.
(sorry I am unrepentant in my want of Berglund in Caps red)
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 26, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
Davidson likes big boys who play with an edge. Semin doesn’t fit his bill. Seems like GMGM is one of the only guys that likes slightly weaker, undersized but more disciplined and sometimes skilled, players. I’d take Stewart off their hands. And Backes. For sure. Not gonna happen.
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by The Jade Donkey on Feb 26, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
They’d give us Boyes but no way they give us Stewart.
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So, Blues get Stewart for Johnson (a dud of a 1st overall pick) and a conditional 1st (lets assume that the other players are a wash…which they are not as the guy given by Colorado is better then the guy given by StL) and you are saying that the Caps could not get Stewart in a deal for Semin. Sounds to me like we cannot get much for Semin considering Stewart was only worth a mistake high first and a mid first.
by CapsFanSince1979 on Feb 26, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
First, EJ is not a dud.
Second, no way the Blues want Semin. They like tough, physical players. They brought in Stewart to be part of the core. They don’t want a player like Semin, especially not at his salary, especially if it means they have to give up a young, cost-controlled, power forward.
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Yea, the Blues are a physical team with financial problems. Not exactly the type of team that would be drooling over Semin.
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Agreed 100%. Stewart was the centerpiece of that trade for the Blues. They probably coveted Stewart to be willing to part with EJ. EJ is far from a dud. The guy is young and still has huge upside.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 26, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
I can tell you the media in Toronto (Mackenzie, Drager, McLean) all stated that EJ is considered a dud for a first round pick by most GMs in the NHL. Still a good player, but not worth top half first rounder and certainly not worth the 1st overall they gave up.
They called the trade a save face move by the Blues for the poor draft selection they made.
by CapsFanSince1979 on Feb 26, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
Time will tell. I say he’ll be a quality player. Maybe not the next Chris Pronger, but he’s going to be a top pair guy, or a stud of a second pair guy if COL has other studs to play on the top pair. He’s only 22 and he lost a full year of development to a freak injury.
I know it was a small sample, but in the only important games he’s ever played since he went pro, he was awesome. He was probably the third best D on Team USA.
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Can you link? I haven’t heard that. I know the MSM is kind of down on him (hard to recover when one of your best developmental years is lost thanks to a freak injury), but then again, American MSM likes his Olympics-ness. He’s only 23 (Backstrom draft year), and considering D mature around 26-29, he’s got plenty of time. He has the frame and skills, he just needs to put it together.
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by red army line on Feb 26, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
I never read Bob McK or Dreger calling EJ a dud. As for McLean, I couldn’t care less.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 26, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. But I read the comment above as Bob and Dreger reporting that other GMs called him a bust, not those guys themselves. Either way, I don’t really buy it. I guess it depends on your definition of “bust.”
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I think everyone’s expectations of a 1st overall have gone up in a big way with the 2003 draft being so deep, then the top2 in 2004, top in 2005, top5 in 2006, top in 2007, top2 in 2008.
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by red army line on Feb 26, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
I agree, but people need a little reality check, especially for a D. EJ is nowhere near where he’ll be, and he’s already a solid top 4 and a borderline top pair depending on the team. He’s played just over 200 games so far. He should hit 300 next year if he stays healthy. At the end of next season we’ll have a much better idea about where he’ll end up.
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He might be a bust as to where he was taken. But a bust player? No way. Guy is solid right now, with a high ceiling. Only 22 with a freak injury slowing his development? I think he still has ways to go.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 26, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
If that’s true, then that’s why the Canadian media is full of it.
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by Steck It Out on Feb 26, 2011 4:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Stecks
Someone really needs to teach him to sit in front of the goalie on the PP…AKA win the draw and then sit and screen. Kinda like the RedWings do. Hey with the way the PP is playing now, WHY NOT?
I'm confused...
Why exchange Beagle for Perrault? And why Ford instead of Sabourin? Is Sabourin still injured? I somehow thought he was back.
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MP sent down is a bit odd, especially since we hear 19 isn’t playing center.
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by gfcaps fan on Feb 26, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Weird
jwaltonhockey Per Doug Yingst, Perreault HAS NOT been assigned to Hershey, and will not be today. Ford is up. Beagle is up. Still goalie searching here
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And further detail on Spidey’s answer. Yes, Sabourin is injured and not only that, but he required surgery. And Holtby is week to week.
Yes, I’m confused at Matt P being sent down, especially when we’re short of centers as well.
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Size and strength. Beagle, while having considerably less talent, will put up a fight, while MP disappears.
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by The Jade Donkey on Feb 26, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
And the Islanders are a team that likes to mix it up….
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 26, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Lost in the babble about that Isles-Pens throwdown is that attendance was up – way up – for a game that IslesNation knew would be about revenge.
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by The Jade Donkey on Feb 26, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Sabourin’s knee is all sorts of screwed up. I think he’s having surgery.
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week-to-week.
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A ha so he did waive his NTC. Good move for the Rangers.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 26, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Now John Walton tweeting that MP isn’t going to Hershey.
I’m sooo confused. Maybe he was sent down, but not actually transported down?
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maybe he was sat down. maybe he’s possibly involved in a trade deal…
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by The Jade Donkey on Feb 26, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
He must be out of the loop. Everyone else has calculated that MP has to go to Hershey or Caps have to many players on the roster.
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Fascinating that Vogs is saying MP sent down, but Walton saying no official paper has been received.
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down could be carolina, tampa, florida, atlanta… they’re all down!
: )
just looking for the funny side at this point. Its like trying to tell jokes to the ailing at a hospital.
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by The Jade Donkey on Feb 26, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
paper transaction that hershey isn’t aware of yet?
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Is MP playing goal?
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by red army line on Feb 26, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
Has to be.
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pretty sure they let Hershey’s GM know by phone, and not just let him find out by fax, you know?
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by The Jade Donkey on Feb 26, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
Jesus -
Now Walton tweeting that MP has been assigned, but won’t play this weekend at all.
Let the trade speculation run rampant.
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Something is up if he’s been assigned and he’s not going to play at all.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 26, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe they just need a roster spot for trade purposes but are going to use him next game if they can’t acquire someone. Doesn’t really explain why he wouldn’t play tonight. I guess he could be traded, I just don’t see a ton of value there.
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He’d be a throw-in, I would think.
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Interesting. Is this a possibility:
Semin + MP for Stastny?
Would COL do that? Would we be giving up too much, not enough?
Why put off 'til tomorrow what you can put off 'til the day after tomorrow?
+ a draft pick.
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by The Jade Donkey on Feb 26, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
They’d want a 1st round pick too. While Semin has a year left, Statsny has several.
They’d want great value for Statsny. Semin + Perrault + 1st may be tempting, but might not even be enough.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 26, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
Why so far fetched?
I would venture that Perreault is viewed as a middling prospect by most NHL GMs. Semin is an enigma who could explode if motivated, only signed for another year. The first round pick would be most likely in the 20s, so it’s not great value either.
All that for a guy with a high contract, but IMO, not a terrible one, until 2014.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 26, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Semin and a First is way too much. That’s two elite value assets. They just won’t get that. They are partially trying to unload Statsny’s contract, and when a team is in that boat they never get full value. Even if they weren’t trying to unload the contract, an elite scorer and a First is way too much.
MP had nothing to do with my reaction. They can have him in that deal. It’s the First that I disagree with. Semin + MP makes sense to me if they want another C or want to move MP to wing.
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That’s a bit much for Statsny IMHP. Frankly, I think the Avs should cough up something else as well. Semin & MP for Statsny + 1st sounds a little more even to me.
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I don’t know if they would or not. I tend to doubt it. I’m not sure why they’d want MP. They are loaded with young Cs so unless they want to move him to the wing it doesn’t make sense. Semin to COL makes too much sense to actually happen.
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I cannot see the Caps making that deal. Statsny is not a point a game player (just missed) and he has a bad contract. Semin has been and has proven it over a couple more years. I would much rather see the Caps not be locked into 3 more years of Statsny and instead have one year of Semin (and sign him on a year per year basis). Less risk. Make this deal does not give you anything. You move the player from RW to C and still have a hole
by CapsFanSince1979 on Feb 26, 2011 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
His contract is pretty good. Think Zetterberg—all his numbers are playing against top lines, not slackers.
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by red army line on Feb 26, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
You are not going to pay (you cannot afford to) to commit $6.6M for three more years for a 2nd line centre. You can do it at RW because you are not locking in and you can give 1st line minutes to your 2nd line RW. If we got locked in to that contract then it will be really hard to keep the Alzner/Carlson/Neuvy/Varly’s of the world. WIth Semin’s contract you can because if the above 4 prove their worth you can let Semin walk. You would have to trade Stastny to make space, which you could probably do, but may not.
Oh yeah, one big difference with giving that money to Stastny vs Zetterberg. Z is a proven winner. Stastny has barely made the playoffs and when he did he only got a .5 PPG.
by CapsFanSince1979 on Feb 26, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t see how you can justify that cost for a wing over a C. I sorta understand the term argument, but it’s not all that long that it really kills us. With the cap going up, we’ll be able to work around it.
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Spot on. I’d rather give term and price to a C over a winger, especially if that C is infinitely more consistent and comfortable playing against tough competition.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 26, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
And the “proven winner” argument is bogus. It’s a team sport. Z wouldn’t be a “proven winner” if he was unlucky enough to get drafted in FLA or almost any other team besides DET.
Z is also protected a bit by Datsyuk. Statsny hasn’t been protected like that. Duchene is starting to protect him, but he’s not really there yet.
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Yes, but when teams make trades and sign players you always hear them say “proven winner”, “comes with cup experience”, etc. That is paid for. Look at the TSN article on the three guys just picked up on waivers. Each players playoff experience is referenced because that is seen as value.
by CapsFanSince1979 on Feb 26, 2011 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
I thought we were talking about whether we’d want Statsny or Semin. Not the relative trade value anymore. I don’t care that Statsny is younger and has been stuck on bad teams. I’d rather have him than Semin. Z winning a lot has nothing to do with that analysis. If your argument is that we can’t get Statsny for Semin then it becomes relevant (except that it makes Semin more valuable and Statsny less valuable, which makes it easier to get Statsny). It sounds like you are saying you don’t want Statsny because he’s not proven. I call BS. (Also, he does have a Silver on a team that wasn’t even supposed to come close to medaling.)
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You can do whatever you want with the rest of the analysis, but the “winner!1” trope is really, really tired. Zetterberg is a phenomenal player, one of the very best in the league, but he doesn’t win squat without guys like Pavel Datsyuk and Nik Lidstrom. Hockey’s a team – if you switched Stastny and Zetterberg, the Wings would still be good and the Avs would still be years away. There’s absolutely no validity to the “Winner” argumentation.
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by Knee high to a duck on Feb 26, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
So Tyler Kennedy might not be better than Alex Ovechkin?
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by red army line on Feb 27, 2011 2:00 AM EST up reply actions
Statsny may not score like Semin, but he’s real good against tough competition, very smart, and not prone to long lapses like Semin. Scoring ain’t everything (see Caps Clips for more). Statsny won’t jet after one year, less risk. C is a much more important position than W, as well. Especially trying to get through the Eastern powerhouses in the playoffs. I’d make that trade in a second, and I bet (hope) the Caps would too. I doubt COL would.
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I have noticed that Semin has averaged the same points per game in playoffs as he does in the regular season where Stastny has not. Personally, I do not think either shows up. I just think that we transfer the problem. I would rather see us get two top 6 capable players for Semin and therefore we fix the glaring hole and not transition it.
by CapsFanSince1979 on Feb 26, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
We won’t get two top 6 guys for Semin. Not two good ones. We’ll get a very good C, if not great, and that makes us a better team than having Semin does.
As has been said a million times, averages mean nothing with Semin. Sure, he has the same average, but he’s on a 14 point scoreless streak. He gets white hot or ice cold. You just never know. You can’t count on a guy like that in the playoffs. He also plays the least important position on the ice and is the second best guy on the team at that position. And as has been pointed out at least twice, Statsny does his damage against the opposition’s top lines. Semin doesn’t. That would free up the AO line to battle easier opposition and thus produce more.
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by Rob Parker on Feb 26, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I personally think you notice his warts more because you see him more. Before his recent 17 game no goal streak, his greatest over the last four years was 6 games.
Over that same time Stastny has had a 12, an 11, a 9, four 8, and three 7 games no goal streak
by CapsFanSince1979 on Feb 26, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
Of course, he has never been a 30 goal scorer as most of his points are assists.
BTW, you could also argue he is getting 1st line wingers to play with and not 2nd line forwards like Semin (Laich and Johansson this year, sometime Flash, sometimes Belanger, etc)
by CapsFanSince1979 on Feb 26, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
With that said to…Colorado is really damn weak on LW.
by CapsFanSince1979 on Feb 26, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
Fedorov and part time 19-8 as linemates are better than anyone Stastny’s ever had, save maybe Joe Sakic (even that’s doubtful).
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by red army line on Feb 27, 2011 2:01 AM EST up reply actions
Those are long streaks. The guy also isn’t a goal scoring center. Not at all. His greatest asset is his playmaking. Playmaking centers often can go a little while without scoring.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 26, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, mentioned that in a follow on post. I personally value goals a hell of a lot more than assists. Mainly because they can grant two assists for each goal scored.
by CapsFanSince1979 on Feb 26, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Okay, but go back look at where his pointless streaks are. Because even though HE might not be scoring goals, he should be consistent in dishing the puck to guys that are. That’s why he’s considered a very good, if not great, playmaker.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 26, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
And Statsny isn’t a scorer, and I’ve never based my critiques of Semin on his goal droughts. His play is hot and cold. His goals tend to come in large bunches when he’s hot, but that’s not nearly the only thing to look for when evaluating Sasha.
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Nor do I. I would never want to pick up a player on pace for 65 points, who is getting 1st line center minutes and on a contract of $6.6M a year with three years still to go. I would rather have the guy who is inconsistent (put still produces more offense in the end) that is being paid the same and provides more flexibility.
by CapsFanSince1979 on Feb 26, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
And that production would go down as a 2nd line centre. We would be sitting here saying…man I cannot believe we have $6.6M committed to a 50 point player.
by CapsFanSince1979 on Feb 26, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
Especially when his wingers would be Laich and Fehr
by CapsFanSince1979 on Feb 26, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
You have no reason to think his production would drop because of even strength. His production, if it drops, will drop because BB doesn’t give him PPTOI. He’ll have at least as good wings on the Caps, even with Semin gone, as he plays with in COL.
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That would be persuasive, if accurate. But Statsny isn’t getting 1C minutes. Even if he were, it would be somewhat misleading. He plays against the other teams’ best players at ES, that means a lot in itself and you haven’t addressed it once. Duchy gets more TOI at 5/5, against easier competition. Their teammates aren’t really distinguishable, but COL is weak on the wings (the entire reason they’d be looking at Semin). How much is it worth to you to allow AO and Nick to play against easy competition and get lots of offensive zone starts?
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The big thing here is that Stastny relieves AO-19 of some D zone draws, and relieves Marjo of some 2nd-tough-minutes. 8-19 in the d zone was killing this team earlier in the season, Marjo’s been getting killed in his minutes all season. With a good two-way 2C, that shouldn’t happen anymore.
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by red army line on Feb 27, 2011 2:04 AM EST up reply actions
And it’s fair to say I see Semin’s warts more because I watch him. I don’t even think Statsny is elite or anything. He’s just a very good C. But C is more important and we need at least one more very good C. Add in the fact that Sasha isn’t even reliable enough for us to try to build a team around Ws and it’s an easy decision for me.
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I agree. I would not build around Semin. He would be the guy I would try and move for a player or two with lower contracts and a draft pick. Well, goto get my son to hockey practice.
by CapsFanSince1979 on Feb 26, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think you get two Top Six forwards for Semin, unless one of them is a borderline 2nd line player ala Laich.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 26, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Semin’s ppg in the playoffs is somewhat skewed by the insane production he had against Philly in 08, and the Rangers in 09.
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Or you could say they are skewed by the shitty 2010 production.
by CapsFanSince1979 on Feb 26, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
or skewed by the fact that Semin is wildly inconsistent and looking at his “career average” is silly and not going to tell you a damn thing about what Semin will do on any given day.
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Part of me says as an underdog, it’s valuable to have a hot-cold player like Semin, since if you perform at your average every game you’ll lose the series.
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by red army line on Feb 27, 2011 2:05 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 26, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
It’s not just a paper transaction for a trade upcoming, only because it’s reported HER isn’t going to play him.
And I agree with you, he’d have to be a throw in. Definitely not a centerpiece.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 26, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Often need to give up a center to receive a center… Avs liked Flash… maybe they’re high on McPhee’s drafting… too many maybe’s make me need a drink… Maybe more than one… wake me when the fog lifts and the shore is plain to see.
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by The Jade Donkey on Feb 26, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Well, McPhee didn’t draft Flash. But I agree with what you’re saying. I think both sides were happy with their respective deals.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 26, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
Caveat – They both liked their respective players until Flash got hurt.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 26, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry, didn’t mean that the two were linked.. ADD… But i’m sure they like detroits drafting.
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by The Jade Donkey on Feb 26, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
Not to worry, the Avs won’t be picking up any more Caps players… two of the most recent players sent there by the Caps have ended up with weird circulatory system issues (Konowalchuk and Flash)…
And McPhee didn’t draft Flash, but Detroit did, and they’ve proven they know what they’re doing on draft day.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 26, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, thats a weird factoid isn’t it? I was just thinking that last night, about Kono and Flash. I bet there’s a groan when the assistant says “McPhee’s on the phone…”
When Detroit gave up flash i immediately thought something must be wrong with him for them to trade him.
Yuck. Klepis just came back to mind. Another slim, less than physical specimen picked up by GMGM. We have had way too many of those in the past decade.
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by The Jade Donkey on Feb 26, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
When Detroit gave up flash i immediately thought something must be wrong with him for them to trade him.
it’s more like Detroit is always so deep at F that they could afford to give up a prospect who was still in the juniors (and a draft pick) to acquire the league leading scorer.
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Exactly. Was there something wrong with the first round pick they gave up? No. They just had to give up value to get the top scorer in the league. Maybe they had already seen something in Flash they didn’t like, but I doubt it. He was traded less than two seasons after he was drafted and he hadn’t even spent any time with DET’s system. Usually you don’t really get to see that a guy is a fail until your own coaches work with him.
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most recent players sent there by the Caps have ended up with weird circulatory system issues
But we didn’t trade them Nylander.
(sorry lame pun)
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 26, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Reading, PA – The Reading Royals of the ECHL, affiliate of the Toronto Maple Leafs and Boston Bruins of the National Hockey League and the Toronto Marlies of the American Hockey League, today announced that defenseman Rob Kwiet has been returned to the Royals from the Bridgeport Sound Tigers of the AHL. In other transactions announced today, the Royals loaned goaltender Bobby Jarosz to the Hershey Bears of the AHL and signed goaltender Shane Davis as the team’s Emergency Back-Up Goaltender.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 26, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
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by The Jade Donkey on Feb 26, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
Looks like our goaltending is about to become legitimately below average again.
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by red army line on Feb 26, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
This move just means that DeMike needed a backup G for tonight, and Reading PA is the closest club to Hershey, so it made sense. They travel to Bridgeport after the game, so Bobby prolly stays with the Bears ’til they get back.
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MP sent down but not playing the weekend. Sounds like a paper transaction to ensure open roster spot through the deadline. Not sure how long teams have to clear spots when they make moves but it makes some sense to send a waiver exempt guy down until then.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 26, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
blah, I like the trading for a center idea better. To each, his own fantasy.
Reducing a dream to bureaucracy removes the fantasy and replaces it with discontent and a longing to escape. On that note, adios for now…
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by The Jade Donkey on Feb 26, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
I would think its a paper transaction anyway, but the fact that he’s being held out of action tells me he’s probably involved in a deal.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 26, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
if he wasn’t involved in a deal why not let him play?
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by Chris Burton on Feb 26, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
That sure is possible too. The fact that the team need two play two C’s on the top line makes it odd that the would send a center down. But they do have extra C’s on the roster and not too many guys who are exempt from waivers.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Feb 26, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
On the other hand, since MP85 tends to have his conditioning / consistency questioned, maybe he’s effectively getting a healthy scratch to recharge his batteries, and happens to be assigned to Hershey for the roster spot.
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I take it that you’re not buying that possibility? (It’s hard to hear intonation over the internet.)
I just don’t see GMGM letting go of either MJ90 or MP85 easily, given our long term need down the middle.
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Didn’t some call this earlier?
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What the hell will Monday be like?
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 26, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
Looks like the kid is hot tonight.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 26, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
Monday was lookign like a dud, now it looks like it’s going to be all sorts of fun.
And I agreed to go to some damn meeting. bah! Better make sure my phone is charged.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 26, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
ugh, that sucks. Sounds almost as fun as the multiple congressional hearings I’m prepping for.
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It’s not too bad…I have cleared a lot of my plate this past week to prep for it.. Trade Deadline Day is one of my own personal holidays. I would have booked it off if it wasn’t year-end.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 26, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
Everyone re-counted and there are only 22 on the active roster at the moment, not 23. So, something else definitely is in the works.
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since weekend waivers take 48 hours, can trades be made today, or are we stuck waiting until Monday?
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by Chris Burton on Feb 26, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
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Also, none of what Caps did involves waivers. Green is off roster because of personal matter (death in the family). Perreault is assigned, waiver exempt.
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I didn’t know if Green was technically “off” the roster but certainly not available. IIRC, I didn’t think Fehr was off the roster when he left for his grandmother’s funeral. But we were short of people big time at that time, since Hendricks was ill, forcing a less than ready Semin to play
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Since he’s off to Calgary, he’s probably going to miss enough time/games to qualify for IR (not LTIR) is my guess and it’s not like he isn’t already hurt.
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Fehr just missed one game when his grandmother died. Essentially, the flight days and the funeral but was back for the next game (two days later). But, with Green injured, the Caps will encourage him to take his sweet time about getting back to Washington.
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the Isles and no DJ King on the ice- Yikes
So we waive DJ King right before the first game that we really need him? Would feel better going into the Isles games with King on the ice, assuming of course BB would have dressed him. I almost felt sorry for the Guins the other night against the Isles. Almost.
If you assume the Beagle call up is for some size and toughness, I guess we will find out if Beagle can actually throw ‘em. He has looked good pushing and shoving and getting in people’s faces when necessary but he hasn’t done a lot of fighting in the minors.
I could be wrong, but I wouldn’t expect the same kind of animosity in an Isles-Caps game as in an Isles-Pens game. They dislike the pens a lot more than they dislike us.
I think people have the Islanders pegged as some sort of tough SOB team after their antics against Pittsburgh.
They decided that the hit on Comeau was dirty and they weren’t going to take it lying down. In their minds, their actions were warranted because it was payback.
I doubt King would be useful in a game against them.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 26, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Re Marco Sturm
A factoid from Wikipedia:
A notoriously strong skater, he is often referred to as “the fastest German on ice.” His forays into the offensive zone are known as the blitzkrieg. In the 1999 All-Star Game, Sturm had the second best time to Peter Bondra in the fastest skater competition
And likely his most famous goal (go to around 2:34):
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I like the way you think, but I’d be a lot more excited about Strum if that had been more recent than 1999. Also, he hasn’t been in int’l competition since 2008. I just can’t get excited about a player with this kind of knee injury.
I wouldn’t say get excited, but he was essentially no risk/good reward.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 26, 2011 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
I think it’s an alright pickup for the Caps. He’s a good veteran and plays a 2-way game when he isn’t injured. I am not doing cartwheels over the move but I am fine with it. The links above were more just an intro to people on Strum for those not familiar with him.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 26, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
Nice effort goal winning three battles for the puck
by CapsFanSince1979 on Feb 26, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
I’m a little worried about the fact that he is 1) somewhat expensive for a wildcard (wildcard status due to injury and conditioning) and 2) a LW.
A little good news at least – Dima Orlov makes his North American debut tonight. :)
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Exactly.
Actually, it should be Jared DeMichel.
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Yep, DeMike gets the cage, and the ECHL Reading (PA) Royals loaned goalie Bobby Jarosz to back him up.
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Not a clue. They’re playing tonight, too.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 26, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
A few friends and I have been telling each other fake trades/waiver pick ups to freak each other out and basically try to trick them into thinking their favorite player was moved from the team.
I.E. – Texted my flyer friend, during a test mind you, so he couldnt check the internet, that the flyers had traded JVR+Carle+1st Rounder for Vokoun+McCabe. He freaked.
I was woken up by a text from the Caps Mobile Alert saying we picked up Marco Sturm. And i attempted to text them back saying something along the lines that Marco Sturm would never be on waivers and they have to be more creative and realistic than that.
In summary, me likey.
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almost 500 comments and no one has mentioned the opportunity to make sturm and drang references. here i thought you people were elite.
we’re still hung over after desperate attempts to self-medicate last night.
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I hope we don’t have the urge to put him on the top line with Ovie?
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Well, that was obvious, wasn’t it? What was the need to mention something so natural?
I mean, if his name was Goethe, then maybe it’d be worth a mention. But Sturm? It just jumps to the mind, doesn’t it?
(as an aside, the first person I ever heard say the words “Sturm und Drang” was, Mr. Baxter, our history teacher, after whom our greyhound was named)
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by Gould Old Days on Feb 26, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting (sad/stark reality) stat
Now mind you, I know the Caps have struggled at home recently but this # kinda hit home.
5 – the number of home wins in the last three months.
Caveat is that their schedule has been road heavy.
He plays winger, specifically left wing.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 26, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
1) Hockey
2) Not Hockey
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 26, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
rec,ed. Definitely not hockey.
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by capsyoungguns on Feb 26, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone think Varly is not really injured, but possibly involved in a trade? Just Curious.
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To be honest, no not really. I am thinking we come out of the deadline with both Varly and Neuvy still Caps.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 26, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
that’s what i was wondering. Vogs had this on twitter earlier: "VogsCaps Mike Vogel
Wouldn’t say “healthy” Posted a couple hours ago: http://bit.ly/hn44fJ @VogsCaps confirm/deny: Varly healthy sctratch tonight."
They’re’ saying injured, but I wouldn’t be surprised at this point if he’s gone by Monday.
Anyone else thinking that maybe Marco Sturm = 2011’s Brian Bellows? Just want to put that out there.
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by bilspacecadet on Feb 26, 2011 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
Every year at the deadline, I always hope we pick up that year’s equivalent to Brian Bellows. Whether we go as far in the post season as we did the year we acquired Bellows I have less confidence in this year.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 26, 2011 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
I picked a good day to be away from computer/phone, etc. going to be fun catching up.
Quick reaction to Sturm, always liked him as a player, if it doesn’t create any cap issue related to another deal, I honestly like it better than Kovalev if Sturm is healthy enough, big if I guess.
Supposed to be in Hershey tonight, not doing that either and now Orlov debuting there, bah, crazy day.
Not going to be possible to catch up on all these posts, lol
The current roster situation:
Contract count: excluding 4 CHL players = 48 contracts
3G: Ford and Neuvirth and Varlamov*
13F: Backstrom, Beagle, Bradley, Chimera, BGordon, Hendricks, Johansson, King**, Knuble, Laich, Ovechkin, Semin, Steckel, Sturm
7D: Alzner, Carlson, Erskine, Green***, Hannan, Schultz, Sloan
*Day to day: Green (I assume on non-active roster due to death in the family), Varlamov
- Waivers: King
IR:
Fehr: last game played 1/14
Poti: last game played 1/12
Schremp
Should we claim schemp to fill the roster and trade semin and MP? and on another note as far as the 2nd line center discussion is concerned, what about travis zajac? the devils need toresig n parise and need to make cap space.
More Sturm
So there are a lot of posts about this move but I have mixed feelings. I do agree he brings a lot to the table and some of it are the intangibles they need – grit, board work, speed. As a Caps fan in the Boston area I saw a ton of Sturm and was always impressed by his determination, hard work and consistency. Coming from the Julien system he has excellent defensive awareness and positional play. These are all positives for a team that needs a few more players like Sturm.
That said, when I watch the Caps lose (or nearly lose) games what sticks out to me is confusion on defensive responsibility in and while leaving the offensive zone primarily by the young centers (but even by the wings who don’t seem to recognize the D-man pinching), lack of drive for the puck on the boards in both zones and in front of the net in the offensive zone and a hesitation on the part of D-men on the breakout (to be fair often because the forwards have left the zone too early) so my question is how does Sturm help the Caps win now when he really only helps on the board work (will drive the net but not strong enough to plant himself there)? I guess I was confused with the Hemsky talk for the same reason.
Board work helps you keep the puck, which helps you get more chances to score (and less time controlling the puck for the other team)
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