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Wednesday Caps Clips: The Legend of Matt Bradley Grows

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Your savory breakfast links:

  • A bit more on Matt Bradley's public service from Monday night. [SB Nation DC, CI (Carrera)]
  • With the team off yesterday (and today), there's not much of an update on the Nicklas Backstrom injury other than the team officially listing him as "day-to-day." [DCEx (McNally)]
  • Has the ship been righted? [WaPo (Carrera)]
  • A look at the Caps' recent regular season success against their most bitter rival. [Peerless]
  • Caps/Rangers in St. Petersburg and/or Moscow to open the 2011-12 season sounds close to being a done deal. [CI (Carrera)]
  • For NHL94 fans (and who isn't one?), this is pretty cool. [RMNB on Tumblr]
  • A behind-the-scenes look at CSN's game night routine. [Puck Buddys]
  • Dmitri Orlov is signed by and skating with the Bears. [Patriot-News (Leone), SHOE, CI (Carrera)]
  • In years past, the Caps have invited undrafted (and relatively unknown) free agents to their summer Development Camp to get a closer look at potential signees. One of last year's invitees, Andy Miele, isn't unknown any more. [YouTube]
  • Finally, happy 45th birthday to John Druce.

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Two notes:

1) Click on the Bradley photo to enlarge its awesomeness

2) This (from the RMNB bullet) would make an awesome avatar for someone:

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by J.P. on Feb 23, 2011 6:36 AM EST reply actions  

New phone wallpaper? New phone wallpaper.

"This leg...is stanky."

by Bald Pollack on Feb 23, 2011 7:12 AM EST up reply actions  

1) Click on the Bradley photo to enlarge its awesomeness

Big Bad Brads.

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by EmilyB on Feb 23, 2011 7:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Meant to be sung to the tune of Bad, Bad, Leroy Brown I presume! Good work.

by cainoo7x on Feb 23, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes exactly, and thank you. :-D

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by WordsOnIce on Feb 23, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

It would work for LiveJournal too.

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by WordsOnIce on Feb 23, 2011 8:08 AM EST up reply actions  

•Caps/Rangers in St. Petersburg and/or Moscow to open the 2011-12 season sounds close to being a done deal.

Guess I’m dipping into the Brazil World Cup trip fund then.

"This leg...is stanky."

by Bald Pollack on Feb 23, 2011 7:18 AM EST reply actions  

Happy Birthday John

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 23, 2011 7:50 AM EST up reply actions   3 recs

Love “boffo.”

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by J.P. on Feb 23, 2011 8:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I really want to send that photo to all my Ranger fan friends this morning.

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by Carl Putnam on Feb 23, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Druuuuuuuuuuuuuuce.

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by CapitalCentre on Feb 23, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s awfully tempting to start planning a vacation…

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by boutros23 on Feb 23, 2011 7:52 AM EST up reply actions  

russia is a bad place to take a vacation as an unseasoned traveller

by j762 on Feb 23, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I was fortunate enough to stay with a friend who was Russian when I went back in 2002. She was my host, tour guide & interpreter. I’m not sure if its changed much, but I wouldn’t have made it without the help of a native speaker/local expert

I had to pretend to be Russian, and my Russian friend handles all of the transactions. Back then prices were 10X higher if they knew you were an American, not sure if its still the same.

The one time I almost got caught was when we were buying tickets for a ballet. The ticket agents suspected I was American, and asked me a question in Russian. When I didn’t respond (my Russian consisted of about 20 words), and they started hassling my friend about making me pay more. I immediately responded with sign language-esque hand gestures, and it worked. They apologized and we rushed in the doors.

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by Sombrero Guy on Feb 23, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

that’s a hilarious story! great to have in your bag of tricks.

by Natty Bumppo on Feb 23, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Jealously will run rampant. That one’s a little more expensive than a weekend in Pittsburgh….

Sigh.

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by gfcaps fan on Feb 23, 2011 7:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Until you find out it’s either St. Petersburg, Florida or Moscow, Idaho.

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 23, 2011 7:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Still involves airfare. :)

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"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Feb 23, 2011 8:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I <3 Moscow Idaho, except that it’s near Pullman, WA, and all dirt roads lead to Pullman.

I blame Schultz

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2011 8:14 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Ryan Leaf FTW

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 23, 2011 8:23 AM EST up reply actions  

As a UW fan, I wholeheartedly rec this.

by GnarlyVarly on Feb 23, 2011 8:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think I’d ever be able to find a way to forgive myself if I’m not there.

by Yoshietree on Feb 23, 2011 8:11 AM EST up reply actions  

How do you want to send me my tickets?

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 8:20 AM EST up reply actions  

But the Sochi fund must remain sacrosanct!

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Feb 23, 2011 8:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I am going to start saving likerightnow.

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by Ovechwin on Feb 23, 2011 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Those were good ads. They at least tried to give the players personality. A lot of the NHLN ads make the league’s elite seem so lifeless.

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by winterion on Feb 23, 2011 7:57 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s what makes the San Jose Sharks marketing department so cool with all their seasonal mock-ads and their “This Shark is a lousy ______________” campaign.

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 23, 2011 7:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Happy Orlov!

(image hat tip RMNB)

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by winterion on Feb 23, 2011 7:58 AM EST reply actions   3 recs

great photo.

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by NGreenberg on Feb 23, 2011 8:03 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

yes it is!

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by CarolynF on Feb 23, 2011 8:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Friday meetup — anyone interested? Is before or after the Rangers game better? Should I start a fanshot?

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by Gould Old Days on Feb 23, 2011 8:18 AM EST reply actions  

FanShot,, please!

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by EmilyB on Feb 23, 2011 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Posted - let’s plan there.

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by Gould Old Days on Feb 23, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Andrew Miele conjuring up his inner OV…

Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherfucker.

by NJNJ on Feb 23, 2011 8:31 AM EST reply actions  

Now…I’m picturing Miele’s chest opening up to reveal the inside of a locker with Ovie’s head in it, laughing.

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by WordsOnIce on Feb 23, 2011 8:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Crazy good highlight tape. What’s his deal though? Do the Caps own his rights or have him on a contract?

by JimCareyFanClub on Feb 23, 2011 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Do the Caps own his rights or have him on a contract?

No and no.

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by J.P. on Feb 23, 2011 8:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Is he available to be signed or does he have to go through the draft?

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by Elliotte on Feb 23, 2011 8:43 AM EST up reply actions  

He’s a free agent – anyone can sign him.

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by J.P. on Feb 23, 2011 8:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Beat me to it.

I blame Schultz

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2011 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

interesting, looks like he’d be a great find, but then again not everyone that can put together a highlight reel at one level will be great at the next level or beyond

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by Elliotte on Feb 23, 2011 8:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks everyone for the replies.

by JimCareyFanClub on Feb 23, 2011 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Former undrafted Caps signees include former Ohio State standout (and waste of SPC) Sean Collins.

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by J.P. on Feb 23, 2011 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

…and future 4th-line-center/winger Jay Beagle.

by Wheeler on Feb 23, 2011 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

He’s kinda small.

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by Ovechwin on Feb 23, 2011 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep. That was sorta the deal with him. Lightning fast but un-tall.

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by EmilyB on Feb 23, 2011 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Other than that I thought he was pretty good. Might be worth a looksee.

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by Ovechwin on Feb 23, 2011 9:17 AM EST up reply actions  

He was easily a top-3 player in th Rookie Camp.

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 23, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

He’s Martin St. Louis! Martin St. Louis! Sign him now!!!

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by Bonzai!!! on Feb 23, 2011 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh Ovechwin! You and Dale Tallon are such size-queens ;)

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 23, 2011 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I gotta stick up for the tall :p

I kinda prospect adore Andy Miele though, goofy kid.

Don’t even get me started on the baby Russians though!

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by Ovechwin on Feb 23, 2011 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

If he’s going to the summer developmental camp, it looks like the organization is going to give him a shot atleast. . .itll be interesting to see what happens. From his highlight reel, it looks like he’s got incredible patience and some sick dangles

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by kingzman264 on Feb 23, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

FWIW, since the contract/rights question was asked, Miele is a senior so as soon as his NCAA season is over he’s available for any team to sign. Same for Wade MacLeod the other forward free agent camp attendee last summer who impressed some in attendance.

by sk84fun_dc on Feb 23, 2011 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

What’s the downside then? Seems like a no brainer to sign him asap.

by CONGERO113 on Feb 23, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Well he won’t sign until his college season ends, in all likelihood. I’m sure when they get eliminated he’ll have offers thrown his way.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s a free agent, but he’s an NCAA free agent. He can’t sign until his NCAA season is over, he’s ineligible to play NCAA hockey the minute he signs a professional contract.

Note, I thought both looked good last summer in the context of their ages (4 year NCAA players tend to be a bit older and these two are), but one also has to take that into account.

Both have had very solid senior seasons and I’d expect both to sign ELCs somewhere around the NHL when they finish their NCAA seasons.

Caveats: Size, age, etc.

by sk84fun_dc on Feb 23, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

What’s the downside then?

See Collins, Sean.

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by J.P. on Feb 23, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

lol, fact is Sean Collins on his original deal, wasn’t an issue, IMO, in fact, he held his own playing some NHL games. It’s the re-signing for 2 years after his ELC, which is the issue.

Of course, one could use Bozak or Hanson or Gilroy (for Gilroy, a different bidding war due to age)

Another downside is the bidding war for these guys, obviously in most cases there is a max they can be paid, but it’s more than a similar draft pick would typically sign for because in some cases a number of teams are competing to sign the same player. Because of the ELC contract rules in terms of dollars, playing time, opportunity, etc., are all factors when bidding for these players, if a team is interested.

Every year there are NCAA FAs who are signed, fewer work out than those who do, but see Bobby Butler, Jack Hillen, Jay Beagle, as well.

by sk84fun_dc on Feb 23, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you know if NCAA free agents are any more likely to sign with a team that has given them a look in a rookie camp? So do the Caps have a “good will advantage” over other teams with Miele or do the decisions just come down to money.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s like any other (unrestricted) free agent – you try to sell him on your team as his best fit. That would include the “Hey, we gave you a chance” card, I’d assume, but ultimately the kid’s going to way everything.

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by J.P. on Feb 23, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

As noted, it can’t hurt if they see the facilities, interact with the team and have a positive experience.

Obviously, the money and opportunity for playing time are big factors going forward.

Note, some players attend more than one camp even in the same summer or different camps in different summers.

OT: Was bummed when Bobby Butler got hurt early in camp the year he attended, I think it was day 1.

by sk84fun_dc on Feb 23, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe like Patrick, he’ll Wey everything.

Or like Miss Muffet, he’ll whey everything.

I blame Schultz

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

000

Or Ultra Whey everything, like the Wieders

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 23, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d imagine it would sorta factor in. Plus he got to meet BROOKS LAICH!!!1

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by Ovechwin on Feb 23, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

He was too busy going to Orioles games with terp. lol

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by Ovechwin on Feb 23, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Also we should start lobbying via twitter, obviously

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by Ovechwin on Feb 23, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair points, all, and I really meant the point that you get at – the bidding war and the high price for mediocre talent (but hey, it ain’t my money).

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by J.P. on Feb 23, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Why thanks. I probably missed some points, I was typing quickly :)

and welcome back and congrats again!!!!!!!

by sk84fun_dc on Feb 23, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks. And anyone who ever wants to babysit…

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by J.P. on Feb 23, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

that just makes it funny, too bad it wasn’t Jordan on the receiving end, he seems to have a bit of Cooke rubbing off on him lately

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by Elliotte on Feb 23, 2011 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea when I saw the link I was hoping for that. Then I realized, damn it was the NYR.

I kinda like Marc Staal.

by Brainumbc on Feb 23, 2011 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, wrong guy got lit up. I prefer Marc or Jordan over Eric.

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by Carl Putnam on Feb 23, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Miele

I remember being really impressed with Miele at Development Camp… so I went and looked at my notes. I have three on him:

1. Who is this kid?
2. Great finish
3. Holy. Crap. GREAT vision.

by GnarlyVarly on Feb 23, 2011 8:55 AM EST reply actions  

Question for CB

I don’t know who the legitimate Preds’ sources are but I read this from a Dan Tencer on twitter:

The Oilers and Predators could be working on a Ladislav Smid for Jonathan Blum trade.

Any truth?

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 23, 2011 8:57 AM EST reply actions  

Well…maybe. Tencer runs the Oilers radio broadcasts, and TSN’s Ryan Rishaug has intimated the same (that Nashville wants Smid). There are definitely legs to the Predators talking turkey with Edmonton for Smid.

That said, trading Jonathan Blum to the Oilers for Smid alone is a horrible, god-awful, and terrible idea. Poile should be ashamed of himself it that’s true (and I doubt it is, but Blum did make his debut last night with an Oilers scout in attendance).

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 9:11 AM EST up reply actions  

put this way

I would consider trading the top prospect in the top farm system in the NHL.

But not for Ladislav Smid. Oof.

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Pretty dreadful effort from the Preds last night you were saying, but did Blum show any brief flashes of anything in his debut?

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 23, 2011 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Blum was actually the lone bright spot, he was very solid. Played over 16 minutes which was surprising.

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Very nice…who was he paired with?

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 23, 2011 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep.

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Smid’s pretty good. (though yes, out of date)

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by red army line on Feb 23, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Sure, but his ceiling is nowhere near Jon Blum’s.

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Also a story out there where Smid is quoted as saying his agent told him a rumored move to Nashville is credible. Also quoted as hearing Washington was interested (though with no indication of credibility). I’d say “buy” at the right price.

by Reckless on Feb 23, 2011 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

And Tim Sassone (covers Blackhawks) tweeted last night it was possible the Blackhawks are looking at Smid. Interesting to see Smid in so many rumors given a reasonable contract with a year remaining. Then again, the trades so far haven’t been rentals.

by sk84fun_dc on Feb 23, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

FWIW, Laich was just on 106.7 and said that Backstrom’s injury isn’t serious and he doesn’t expect him to miss any time. We’ll see but he didn’t seem concerned.

by b.orr4 on Feb 23, 2011 8:58 AM EST reply actions  

I was just posting on this.

Brooks just said on the Fan that Nicky is tough guy and he thinks Nicky is playing Friday. He also was talking up Bruce about being very prepared and caring about the team. He said the team didn’t have a motivation problem and fans should stop comparing this year’s team to last years because it’s a different team.

by vtcapsfan99 on Feb 23, 2011 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Was this the junkies? Did they ask any hardball questions, as in, WHY is this a different team and WHY can’t you guys score this year?

by Karl W on Feb 23, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Following up on that, remember the player poll where Bruce was voted the easiest coach to play for and everyone assumed that meant he wasn’t demanding? Laich said Bruce puts an incredible amount of work into his practice and game prep and explains his plan so well that every player knows exactly what’s expected of him and that’s why it’s so easy to play for him. Have to admit, I hadn’t thought of it that way.

by b.orr4 on Feb 23, 2011 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I always thought that was an odd question. It’s based mainly on assumption more than anything. Of the players interviewed, how many have actually played for Bruce and are playing somewhere else now?

by JimCareyFanClub on Feb 23, 2011 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Laich is just waiting for his GMGM Loyal Soldier contract

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by Bman21212 on Feb 23, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Given that Mike Keenan was voted “hardest” coach to play for for years, I always thought “easy” was synonymous with “not an asshole.”

by Karl W on Feb 23, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Laich talking up the coach, eh?

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by bagace on Feb 23, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Worth many reposts. Worth a few recs too.

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by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2011 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

That made me smile

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by Steve-R on Feb 23, 2011 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe someone can freeze frame it to show how Bradley’s invisible elbow hit Cooke in the face

by Brainumbc on Feb 23, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Hit from behind! Hit from behind! Suspend him!

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by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2011 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Some people get in a tizzy over clean hits just ‘cause it’s their player and it was a hard hit.

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by Ovechwin on Feb 23, 2011 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

It was obviously a dirty hit. Bradley plowed right into Cooke’s numbers…… … .. .. the ones on his sleeve

by Brainumbc on Feb 23, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks Ryan! You and your ice pack can report back to Wilkes-Barre!

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by EmilyB on Feb 23, 2011 9:22 AM EST reply actions  

Pens fans were ragging on him all game from the stands.

by Darrb on Feb 23, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Can someone confirm that Joe B will no longer be working NHL games as an announcer?

by Brainumbc on Feb 23, 2011 9:27 AM EST reply actions  

Just Versus.

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by Ovechwin on Feb 23, 2011 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

as evidenced by that sham of an announcing job on Monday night. As I told the Mrs. when she complained about them, a drunken Locker is more on topic and covers the game better than those guys did

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by Elliotte on Feb 23, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Speakingg on a drunken Locker, his twitter feed is the bomb yo.

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by Ovechwin on Feb 23, 2011 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

What made it a sham, well minus Pierre’s heavy breathing? I get people prefer to hear their hometown guys, but I thought DS & DE did a good job.

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by Carl Putnam on Feb 23, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

it seemed like there was a lot more discussion of things other than what was going on down on the ice. I don’t want a radio-style play-by-play, but I would like to get some play-by-play, especially if I don’t know the other guys on the ice well enough to recognize them without seeing their numbers. Malkin, Crosby, Cooke, Staal I can pick out by how they’re playing or what they’re doing, the rest I don’t know.

Yeah, by the 2nd or 3rd period Joe B and Locker get into talking about other stuff, not just the play-by-play or how a team’s special teams is doing lately, but those guys Monday night just were talking about anything

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by Elliotte on Feb 23, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

That was my impression too. They were spending way to much time relaying “Game Notes” trivia about the players, clubs, etc. than details of the game. I understand that for a national game not all viewers would be aware of the clubs and players, but it was too much (and too distracting).

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by bagace on Feb 23, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Funny because when Joe B. and Brickley did Versus games they used that exact style. Whether you like it or not this is how national TV games tend to be done.

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by Carl Putnam on Feb 23, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

really? maybe I’m just blurring it all in my memory, but I thought Joe B was always better about adding a fair amount of play-by-play into his broadcasts

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by Elliotte on Feb 23, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

And its how they should be done.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 23, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Versus goes out and nabs Pierre for between the benches; why couldn’t they get Gord Miller to do play-by-play instead?

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by bagace on Feb 23, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

It is definitely worse with the 3 man announce team (McGuire or Engblom between the benches). The ice-level guy fills a lot of the time that the broadcast team would normally fill, and thus you get a lot more “filler” during actual play. reminds me of when ESPN does sideline interviews or phone interviews during football games.

Having said that, I am sure if JoeB were still doing versus broadcasts with their new setup, he would suffer that same problem. The problem isn’t necessariy WHO is announcing, but HOW MANY.

by GusDaMan on Feb 23, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

There is pretty much no TV play by play guy left who actually calls the game the way they used to be called, IMO. All the tv guys would fail on radio, IMO. Try taking one’s eyes off the tv and actually understanding the play taking place and for long stretches of a game it is next to impossible.

Fact is they expect you are watching so it is different than listening to a radio broadcast and it is not the same.

The effective color guys are the one’s who build off the play by play person, but also add detail, pointing out subtleties the viewer may have missed or adding the flavor through short bits of storytelling.

Also, to judge a play by play and color commentator, it is best to judge them when watching a game between two teams when you do not have a rooting interest. It is easier to determine whether there is a balance and they are adding to the game.

Also, for the most part, anyone spending time posting on a site like Japers Rink is not the target audience for a national tv broadcast.

by sk84fun_dc on Feb 23, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

If the actual broadcast was better (i.e., following the action, don’t focus so much on one player close up or the benches, or someone in the stands, don’t miss faceoffs), it probably doesn’t matter who’s doing the play by play. My beef with Monday’s game was probably personal-preference/force of habit related. I just thought the play calling was boring. No real emotion at all, but then again, the game itself was pretty boring in long stretches. I guess I’d have to hear Strader (right?) call a game for the home team to compare.

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by gfcaps fan on Feb 23, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

IMO, Strader is always boring, nothing new. Nothing about my post was to support Strader specifically.

by sk84fun_dc on Feb 23, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I disagree, but realize broadcasting tastes are like music or food tastes.

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by Carl Putnam on Feb 23, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

So clearly it would be unsustainable financially, but wouldn’t it be a great experiment to use the SAP channel on a broadcast for “hockey viewers audio” — the people on here could get a separate audio feed designed for the discerning hockey fan?

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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Feb 23, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I know we’ve had this discussion before, but if such a feed was just in arena mics they’d have a fair amount of people going with said feed.

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by Carl Putnam on Feb 23, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Dallas’ TV guys are broadcast over radio too.

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by red army line on Feb 23, 2011 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I held off as long as I could, but I just can’t wait nay more. Your current playoff matchups! (CB is sooo happy) This only shows points earned; some teams have several games in hand, and particularly in the West, that can account for some wild flucations from day to day.

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TBL (75) vs. NYR (68)
BOS (75) vs. MTL (71)
PIT (77) vs. WSH (74)

WEST
VAN (85) vs. LAK (68)
DET (80) vs. CGY (70)
PHX (75) vs. NSH (70)
SJS (74) vs. MIN (70)

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by RedBirdie on Feb 23, 2011 9:38 AM EST reply actions  

In the east, some bruising rivalries and coaches facing their old teams.

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 23, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I would be fine facing Pitt right now.

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by Ovechwin on Feb 23, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Philly in the second round would be brutal though.

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by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Eh, perhaps Montreal or NYR can pull off the upset?

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by Ovechwin on Feb 23, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

just as long as it’s not both of them

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by Elliotte on Feb 23, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I think having Tampa Bay and Boston out in the first round would be awesome.

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by Ovechwin on Feb 23, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

And we’d end up playing MTL instead of Philly. Although I can’t say I’d mind playing TB in the second round if we did end up making it thru.

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by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Tampa Bay scares me more than Montreal.

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by Ovechwin on Feb 23, 2011 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Eh, we handled them nicely until they traded for Roloson. Goalies in their 40s don’t tend to get better as the season goes along.

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by The Ghost of Bebop on Feb 23, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s my thought. He’s going to see a ton of games getting to that point. I could see Carey Price coming up big faster than I could see Dwayne Roloson.

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by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

and we handled them most recently, 5-2 when we used a new offensive scheme against them and when Hendy got in Rolo’s crease and his head

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by Elliotte on Feb 23, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Roloson and Price seem like two of the easier goalies to rattle. Thomas and MAF definitely show some emotion when you get in their faces, but I think they rise to the challenge much better than the other two.

by JimCareyFanClub on Feb 23, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Price also seems to be somewhat of a head case that could be handled by our grinders, though playing in the Bell Centre could be it’s own problem.

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by bagace on Feb 23, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s not playing in other teams’ buildings that has given this team fits…

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by Becca H on Feb 23, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

just gotta hope for someone else to pull an upset too

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by Elliotte on Feb 23, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

After looking at the remaining schedules for both Tampa and Washington, I’m going out on a limb and saying the Caps are going to take the SE for a fourth straight year. In fact, I predict that before the two teams meet again on March 7th, the Lightning will be chasing the Caps.

by b.orr4 on Feb 23, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think it’s a limb at all.

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by Ovechwin on Feb 23, 2011 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Assuming the Top 8 teams in the east right now are the playoff teams, how would you rank the Caps chances against each in a 7 game series? Basically, the 1st team you would list would be the matchup you want most for the Caps, the 7th team is the team you least want to see.

1. Carolina
2. Montreal
3. Pittsburgh
4. Tampa
5. New York
6. Boston
7. Philly

by JimCareyFanClub on Feb 23, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

If it starts right now, I’d want Pittsburgh. No Crosby, no Malkin. Cake, my friend, CAKE!

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by Ovechwin on Feb 23, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I would disagree, but all the not-good-at-Corsi teams have goalies that scare me more than MAF.

I don’t want any part of Montreal, and I’d prefer NYR (Gaborik out). Canes, Pens, Rangers, Habs, Bruins, Lightning, Flyers.

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by red army line on Feb 23, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

In order to get to the Stanley Cup FInals, the Caps will have to beat 3 different east teams.

Pick your poison…I don’t like playing the “who would I rather have the Caps face” game because ultimately they’re gonna have to go through SEVERAL very good teams to reach their ultimate goal…as far as I’m concerned, just getting to the second or even third round (and no further) would be no less disappointing than losing in the first round at this point.

Last year, the ECF was a matchup of the #7 and #8 seeds. Given the Caps regular season record last year, do you think any fans in MTL wanted to face the Caps??? I highly doubt it, but it didn’t go so bad for them, did it? I don’t care who the Caps face or about home-ice advantage. Winning in the playoffs and bringing home the hardware is about being able to beat ANYBODY. BRING IT.

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by PaintDrinkingPete on Feb 23, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree 100%. There is no easy route to the Stanley Cup.

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by Ninjak on Feb 23, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I dunno… perpetual first round bye in the Devils followed by an utter collapse by the Bruins followed by a dog tired Canadiens team? Or how about being the fourth seed and having all three teams above you get knocked out in the first round? Not saying either of those scenarios is necessarily “easy” but there’s definitely an element of luck-of-the-draw.

by Kevin O. on Feb 23, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Excellent point Pete. Last year there was all this talk about whom we wanted in the first round, bla bla, and general joy when Montreal became our first round opponent versus Philly. None of that mattered, obviously. Who cares what team we face first? We ultimately have to beat them all.

by Karl W on Feb 23, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s not how I remember it. Most people though Montreal was a bad match up.

by wickedwitch on Feb 23, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Then check out the Rink archives and refresh your memory. (I would link it but don’t know how.) Some people did express concern, but not a large number. The overriding concern was that Montreal was a thru-way to Pittsburgh.

by Karl W on Feb 23, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

People still expected the Caps to win, but it was pretty close to a consensus that MTL was the worst matchup of the possible 8 seeds at the time.

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by Killer_Carlson on Feb 23, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I can say with 100% certainty that Montreal was the last team I wanted to face…I’m too lazy to go through the archives…but I know I wasn’t the only one that felt way.

by Yoshietree on Feb 23, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

You were definitely not alone.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

The poll and discussion here definitely seemed to favor facing anyone else over Montreal. (With an appearance by lifetime caps fan! Good times.)

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by SmallZ827 on Feb 23, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Although upon further review there was some “I’m not scared of MTL” going around, too. The thread’s a little depressing after the fact.

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by SmallZ827 on Feb 23, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I know I wasn’t too excited about it.

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by gfcaps fan on Feb 23, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

1) Carolina
gap
2) Pittsburgh
3) Tampa
small gap
4) Montreal
5) New York
gap
6) Philadelphia
7) Boston

by wickedwitch on Feb 23, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d actually agree with that entire list completely.

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by Becca H on Feb 23, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like what I think. Tampa and Pittsburgh scare me far less than Montreal or the Rangers – we match up much better against them.

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by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Carolina, Pitt, and New York are my top 3, and, depending on how AO’s going/the team is playing in the last couple weeks of the season, I could see Philly replace NYR as my 3.

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 23, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

And just last week there was talk of not making the playoffs…
Boston and Philly are clearly the ones to miss…As for the rest, I’m not that impressed. And you could lump the Caps into the middle of that list.

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by NJNJ on Feb 23, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

You’re a mind reader, RB. I’ve wanted that matchup since early last season (though preferably with home ice, but meh).

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I like that matchup too. It will be a feel good story for the city of Phoenix when the Coyotes put the whole off ice mess to the side and win a playoff round.

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by Killer_Carlson on Feb 23, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

At least it means one of them has to make it to the second round. It does have a Boise St. v. TCU kind of feel though.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

If Phoenix is Boise and Nashville is TCU, are the Caps Ohio State?

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

How could the Caps be Ohio State? They’ve never been an entrenched powerhouse.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

True. I was going more for really good most regular seasons, can’t come through when it counts.

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

i appreciated your comeback.

by Natty Bumppo on Feb 23, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks. As a UF (iirc) fan, you should.

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

before the win against arkansas this year, OSU was 0-9 all-time against the SEC in bowl games.

by Natty Bumppo on Feb 23, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Bingo.

Anyway, it was the best comeback I had at the time. Stupid brothers always collaborating…

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

But they have a national championship just a few years back.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

if by a few years you mean 9 years, then sure.

by Natty Bumppo on Feb 23, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d take the bait if this was Carl, but you guys like to play the antagonist…

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Antagonist? Never…

Release the Mackan!

by Killer_Carlson on Feb 23, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean, I know you don’t actually think PHX would beat NSH in a 7 game series…

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

It would only be 5 or 6.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 23, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

It goes 6 if Vokoun can steal two games.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

What if David Booth lights up?

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

also

I like the Wild’s chances against San Jose; they seem to play just the kind of game needed to neutralize the Sharks.

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Every day this week, I’ve been on edge wondering if this is the day something goes down. Anytime I step away and come back and see a spate of new comments after a lull, I get anxious thinking something happened. I’m still expecting whatever may happen to happen on Monday, but I’ll be antsy until then.

by CVDTerp on Feb 23, 2011 10:36 AM EST reply actions  

Ha, this year has a bit of a different feel with the already happening spurt of non-rental trades.
Sure, they happen every year, but seems like more and bigger ones leading to the deadline this year.

As it relates to the Caps, off the ice today (likely community service just no practice based on a tweet I saw) and no game until Friday, I do wonder if something might happen today. However, this time of year it seems like McPhee tends to wait until the deadline and the Caps play Fri/Sat and then don’t play again until Tuesday night with the Monday afternoon deadline so still 5+ days of this, lol.

by sk84fun_dc on Feb 23, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Kris Letang enjoys watching small children cry
Imorgon ska #Caps Nicklas Bäckström besöka ett barnsjukhus och förgylla barnens tillvaro genom att spela tv-spel med dem. #twittpuck

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by Malin A on Feb 23, 2011 10:51 AM EST reply actions  

Haha. The translated version sounds like something from the Propaganda Ministry in some old skool Communist Bloc nation.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 23, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I have no problem with this, so long as he’s playing Wii.

by Wheeler on Feb 23, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Imorgon ska #Caps Nicklas Bäckström besöka ett barnsjukhus och förgylla barnens tillvaro genom att spela tv-spel med dem. #twittpuck

In English:

Tomorrow Nicklas Bäckström are visiting a Children’s hospital to brighten children’s lives by playing video games with them.

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Try playing video games with a broken thumb..

What a bastard Kris Letang is, he enjoys watching small children cry.

by Malin A on Feb 23, 2011 10:59 AM EST reply actions  

Imorgon ska #Caps Nicklas Bäckström besöka ett barnsjukhus och förgylla barnens tillvaro genom att spela tv-spel med dem. #twittpuck

In English:

Tomorrow Nicklas Bäckström are visiting a Children’s hospital to brighten children’s lives by playing video games with them.

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Try playing video games with a broken thumb..

What a bastard Kris Letang is, he enjoys watching small children cry.

by Malin A on Feb 23, 2011 11:00 AM EST reply actions  

I hear Kris Letang enjoys watching small children cry.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 23, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I hear Kris Letang enjoys watching small children cry.

FTFY

by JimCareyFanClub on Feb 23, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

“Sorry kids. I was really looking forward to playing games with you today, but this mean man with terrible hair broke my thumb so I wouldn’t be able to. He is a member of an evil gang known as the Pittsburgh Penguins who are known for wearing black and killing kittens.”

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by bagace on Feb 23, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

A triple post!?
I feel like I should get some kind of award. I don’t even think Brainumbc have managed to do that.

by Malin A on Feb 23, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

A Malintrick!

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by boutros23 on Feb 23, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

MALINTRICK! MALINTRICK! MALINTRICK!

…sorry :P That’s my favorite part of the Ovechtrick commercial, when they have the chanting in the background (and I don’t know why).

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by Becca H on Feb 23, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Was it just me or did the SB Nation server crash again?

by b.orr4 on Feb 23, 2011 11:39 AM EST reply actions  

Big problems this morning.

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by Ninjak on Feb 23, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

HF Boards worthy trade proposal on XM today:

Caps get: Stastny, Liles
Avs get: Caps’ First, Holtby, and… TSlo.

Right. Like anyone is going to trade for TSlo.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 11:40 AM EST reply actions  

I would :D

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by Ovechwin on Feb 23, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

If we keep playing him and playing him… One of these days we’ll wake up, and he’ll have 200 games under his belt.

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by Ninjak on Feb 23, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

After Paul Stastny’s comments on the trade “destroying” the Avs I would be less surprised to see Peter Stastny come to the Capitals in a trade than Tyler Sloan play mediocre hockey on Friday.

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by sydtron on Feb 23, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

You got a link for that quote?

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Front page, Puck Daddy.

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by Ninjak on Feb 23, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

The source is Adrian Dater’s blog on the Denver Post website.

And yes, they are Peter Stastny’s comments not Paul’s, but they are very interesting.

by sk84fun_dc on Feb 23, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

To be clear, those were Paul’s dad’s comments, not Paul’s.

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

You’ve got your Peter and Paul mixed up. Mary.

I blame Schultz

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

000

I blame Anton

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 23, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I missed the easy Marian joke.

I blame Schultz

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes you did. For shame.

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 23, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Shit.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 23, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I gave up all hope of remembering who was with the father. I blame it on the Nords becoming the Avs, and Anton.

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by sydtron on Feb 23, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

“This young team was ready to challenge, almost, for a Stanley Cup this season. They were so good. All they needed was some more chemistry, and some synergies. Instead, they destroyed the team. I mean, that was a one-way deal. Mr. Armstrong will look like a genius. I don’t know what they were thinking in the Colorado organization. I should not have said this, but I’m so, so mad what they’ve done to this team. They’ve moved the team about two to three years back again.”

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The best part about that is how Peter thinks the Avs were close to competing for the Cup.

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Before the team lost half the roster to injury, they were actually doing quite well. They were a few points behind Vancouver in the Northwest division and were outshooting and outchancing their opposition with regularity. Their recent spate of horrendous play isn’t necessarily indicative of the team’s overall abilities.

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by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s true, and I agree, but Peter was presumably referring to when the trade was made.

If Mueller, Fleischmann, et. al. had stayed healthy and Anderson didn’t fall apart, its probably a playoff team.

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

They gave up on Shattenkirk way too early. That deal is going to come back to haunt them.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 23, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I love Shatty, but Johnson’s upside is waaaaaaay higher.

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by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Bingo.

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

If he reaches it. I’ve heard rumors that Johnson’s a headcase, making ThugLife52 seem like a mentally stable individual.

I think Johnson might reach his potential, but easily could not have if he was still on the Blues.

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by Bman21212 on Feb 23, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

The kid is 22 and has missed an entire year due to a freak injury. Let’s not label him just yet.

I blame Schultz

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

and then there are the rumors about that freak injury, just rumors, yes

by sk84fun_dc on Feb 23, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Lemme guess – he was wasted at the time?

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by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

And he stepped up the one time he had to play big games.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

You could say the same thing about STL and Johnson. EJ is better than Shatty, so if EJ and Shatty both reach the same % of their potential, COL wins.

I’m also not as big a Shatty fan as lots of other people seem to be.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, if Quincey didn’t go down for the year, if Cumiskey didn’t have a head made of cabbage, if Jones had stayed healthy, if Stewart didn’t break his hand. . .

I blame Schultz

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we’d all have a nice Christmas…or something like that.

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by NJNJ on Feb 23, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Try the curly fries.

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by EmilyB on Feb 23, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t eat them but I hear they’re delicious. I do like the jamocha shake.

by b.orr4 on Feb 23, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

True. But I still wouldn’t have them as legit Cup contenders, unless Statsny was counting all playoff teams as contenders. Does anyone really like a healthy COL in a match-up against DET or VAN? Even the weakened CHI team seems much better. COL is poised to be very good for a long time. This trade didn’t change that. It may be a little step back in the short term, but as soon as they use that first round pick they’ll get back up to speed pretty quickly.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Neither would I. Even with all pieces in place, they’re a 6/7 seed IMO.

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Unless that pick gets deferred to 2012. I’m still on the fence about this one, as you know. EJ is the best player in the deal in terms of position and upside, but Shatty and Stewie are pretty great, too.

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by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Cup contenders? Not this year. But in 1-3 years? For sure.

I blame Schultz

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Really? That’s high praise; are they signing Drew Doughty and Tomas Vokoun to go with Johnson and I hadn’t heard?

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

How many teams could boast center depth to compete with Stastny, Duchene, O’Reilly and Hishon?

A defensive corps of Liles, Shattenkirk, O’Byrne, Cohen, Elliot/Barrie, Gaunce/Holos/Montgomery?

When healthy, they’d have Stewart, Flash, Mueller, Jones as their top-4 wings, with Brandon Yip and Kevin Porter as reserves/3rd liners.

And their $$$$$$$$ in cap space could go to signing Tomas Vokoun.

That’s a pretty goddamn good team.

I blame Schultz

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Well you’re counting Hishon before he’s done a thing.

You’re also assuming two guys made of glass will be healthy. I think it’s a safer bet that Mueller never plays another game than it is that he ever gets healthy for a 70 game season. Flash may very well have played his last game with COL already as well.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you just have a brain fart which involved the Avs not trading all those players? Shatty, Stewart, and Cohen are gone, and Liles probably will be too.

Try again?

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Le sigh. It was the hypothetical if the team had followed the path that the elder Stastny clearly thinks they should have.

Note: no Johnson/McClement/Hunwick.

I blame Schultz

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, haha. I was following the conversation from this:

Cup contenders? Not this year. But in 1-3 years? For sure.

My bad.

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

There may be a lot of potential in that D, but it’s not scaring a single team.

Release the Mackan!

by Killer_Carlson on Feb 23, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but I was talking in 2-3 years.

I blame Schultz

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

David Jones has 20 goals on the Avs. That would make him 3rd on the Caps—one behind Semin. Sighs.

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 23, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Right, but does this trade really change that? I don’t think it does. I still think COL is in position to become a contender in a couple years.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I honestly think it sets things back by about a year at a minimum. If Mueller’s career is over and Hejduk retires, then it’s more like 3 years.

I blame Schultz

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d do that deal so quickly I’d break my legs getting out of my chair to call the league office.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 23, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Interesting side debate:

Do the Caps even want Liles?

I say no. He’s not going to be put in a position to succeed here. He gets PPTOI with COL and is allowed to be to do the things that are making him successful in COL. He’d be the third puck mover on the depth chart so I just don’t see him bringing what we need. You know that BB is going to stick with Green/AO on the points for the vast majority of PP time, so Liles’ production is going to seriously dry up if he comes here. Pass.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

The third puck mover? Do you mean on the PP or as a whole?

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

As a whole. I have him behind Green and Carlson. Probably would end that way on the PP as well.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I love RAHJC, but JM Liles is more than a few steps ahead of him at moving the puck at this stage in his career, no?

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know about that. Liles had fallen off the map until this year. Is this a blip, or were the prior years flukes? Carlson passes and skates the puck well. He may not have the confidence or veteran savvy of Liles, but he’s not that far behind in the puck skill department. Add in that Carlson is already way better in his own end than Liles and I’m still taking Carlson. Liles would end up being the puck mover on the 3rd pair. I don’t think that spot is worth giving up what it would take to get Liles. Just a poor use of assets.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I definitely agree with the conclusion here but Liles is still better than JC at getting the puck up ice.

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe. But I’m not even close to conceding the point.

What I am positive about is that Carlznerson is going to continue to be the top D pair, Green will be on the second D pair, and Liles would go on the 3rd. It’s moot whether or not Liles is marginally better at moving the puck (and if he is better, it’s marginal) because Carlson is so much better defensively that they can trust him to play tough minutes, which Liles can’t/won’t.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

F&B — Have you (or I) ever conceded a point?

by RCheli on Feb 23, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably that time I was wrong.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll have to search for that one.

by RCheli on Feb 23, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, I hadn’t read that list. Wow.

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

you earned my respect for coming around on urban meyer.

by Natty Bumppo on Feb 23, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Like I said, we’re on the same page. My only point was that at this exact moment, I’d rather have Liles carry the puck up-ice than JC.

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Liles isn’t an optimal pick up, but one the Capitals could certainly use. Liles is decent enough defensively for the 3rd pair and gives the option of 2 D men on PP2, as well as keeping an AHL caliber defenseman from getting a sweater for the Caps come postseason.

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by sydtron on Feb 23, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Question for D’oh (or whoever). Who was the defensive conscience of Liles’ pair? Would Liles be able to do the things offensively for the Caps that he does for the Avs if he had Erskine watching his back?

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s Ryan O’Byrne, I think?

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep.

I blame Schultz

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

i know I am beating a dead horse but putting Ryan O’Byrne and defensive conscience in the same mindspace still boggles me some.

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 23, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

which is why Liles would make a terrific 3rd pairing guy. Erskine/Poti can be rough, downright horrible at times but I’d bet on them 9 times out of 10 over O’Byrne.

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by sydtron on Feb 23, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

4.2 mil for a 3rd pairing guy..ouch.

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 23, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah man, who are we, the Flyers?

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

aka the team that is one trade with Florida from rendering the playoffs completely moot.

Not saying Liles is worth 4 a year, but, that is a ridiculous amount of defensive talent on the Caps if so. 5 out of 6 defensemen being of remarkably high quality? Yeah, I’ll take it.

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by sydtron on Feb 23, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

A team like the Capitals doesn’t have the luxury to pay $4.5M to a third-pair defenseman playing 16 minutes a game.

by RCheli on Feb 23, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

If they used purses instead of pucks, he’d be Ray Bourque.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 23, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

O’Byrne has been better than you’d think since moving to Colorado.

I blame Schultz

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep I know he has. it just still amazes me.

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 23, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

The top PP unit could use a lefty.

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by red army line on Feb 23, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Why do you say that? Just because the balance makes sense? A lefty doesn’t really help unless BB plans on changing up the whole PP. AO plays the left point as a righty looking for the one timer, Green plays the right point as a righty looking to cut back door. So long as that’s the set up there only needs to be one lefty, on the right side half wall, which is where Backstrom generally plays.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

So AO moves off the point. I’m not really a fan of having four of the five PP catalysts (Semin, AO, Green, Carlson, Backstrom) being righties. It limits what you can do.

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by red army line on Feb 24, 2011 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Nahh Burke has his eye on him. And TOR is willing to shell out for a PP QB.

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 23, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

But do you want him? Regardless of what Burke does, would you be pumped if he came here in a trade?

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

As thin as our defensive depth is?

And it would keep Tyler Sloan and broken Tom Poti off the ice?

Absolutely.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 23, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but you can get something cheaper than Liles for that.

I blame Schultz

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, yeah, but if he came here I wouldn’t be upset.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 23, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly. If we are talking about D depth there is quite a list of guys I’d take over Liles, considering the costs.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry to sound like J.P. but I really think GMGM should be kicking the tires hard for Jan Hjeda on the Jackets.

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 23, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

They’re not selling anymore.

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t blame them. They’re only two points out of a spot, and they could use that sweet, sweet playoff money.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 23, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Going back to yesterday’s clips…Brian Pothier also would have kept Tyler Sloan and broken Tom Poti off the ice. Pothier is also much better than Sloan and I don’t think he is that much of a step down from Tom Poti. I bet he would have signed for the money that Sloan makes now too.

by BradleyFightingVehicle on Feb 23, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Since Potsy went to Europe, I wonder if GMGM has regrets about not re-signing him.

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by sydtron on Feb 23, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

We don’t know that GMGM didn’t make an offer. Potsy may have just wanted to go to Europe because he knew what kind of ice time he’d get, etc.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s the big problem, I think. A broken Tom Poti and John Erskine are in Washington for the next two seasons, and Liles is not cheap ($4.5M through next year).

by RCheli on Feb 23, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Pumped? No. Do I think he could help the PP? For sure, especially if it got Ovie off the point. I am not crazy about spending 4.2 mil on him though if it impedes an effective 2C coming our way.

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 23, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

But he won’t get AO off the point. We all know this. We all would love to see another PP set up, but it won’t happen. If BB had any intention of taking AO off the point, then we’d have seen a bunch of Carlson/Green on the point.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Friedman was making noise that Buffalo was interested, since Liles and Ryan Miller are BFFs.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 23, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Saw that. I’m sure lots of teams are “interested” but I don’t know how many teams will actually pony up.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

If, in theory, it allowed Ovie to move off the point on the PP1 unit, I’d be for it. But I think I agree with you that I don’t trust BB not to put Ovie out there, so it’s probably not worth it. I will state, however, that I’m worried about Green’s health long-term through the playoffs. Just because Corvo blew goats doesn’t meant the team shouldn’t try to get a backup plan for Green. I’m not convinced Carlson is there yet.

I blame Schultz

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Of course you can’t expect Liles to blow like Corvo, but I do think that Corvo is instructive in the sense that BB never even gave him a real chance to get PP1 time, to take away any of Green’s minutes, or to be really used as an effective puck mover. Liles may play better than Corvo, but I don’t think he’d get used any differently.

Also, do you think Liles would be able to adjust to this system? You’ve talked a lot about how COL’s system is much simpler and it has allowed Liles to put up better numbers and do what he does best. Do you think he’d still produce in the more complex BB system?

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I think Liles would be fine paired with someone steady like Schultz/Hannan/Alzner. The big difference is that the Avs pinch with their D a lot more in the offensive zone.

I blame Schultz

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Pardon my ignorance, but were Liles and Hannan paired together often in CO? If so how did they look together? I know it took Hannan a while to settle after coming over, but perhaps with Hannan by his side Liles would have a shallower learning curve?

I’m not wild about Liles, but I’m fully on board with the “if it keeps the Tyler Sloans and…god forbid…Brian Fahey’s off the ice…” train of thought.

by BradleyFightingVehicle on Feb 23, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

They were a bit earlier in the season, but once Colorado picked up O’Byrne, that became Liles’ most frequent partner.

I blame Schultz

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Corvo’s at the end of his career, and there was some expectation that he’d be up-and-down.

by RCheli on Feb 23, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Corvo is 33 and still playing a ton of minutes. I wouldn’t call that being at the end of his career.

Release the Mackan!

by Killer_Carlson on Feb 23, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Is he a lefty? Talking heads are suddenly suggesting the Caps get another left handed power play QB because of Green’s health issues.

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by gfcaps fan on Feb 23, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Do the Caps even want Liles?

Nope. He has sensitive skin.

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by Sombrero Guy on Feb 23, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

Holy… Who proposed that – Milbury?

I know the Avs want a young goalie, but in terms of the Caps’ three young netminders, I’d imagine they’d have their sights set on one of the two on the NHL roster.

by Wheeler on Feb 23, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d wager Neuvirth instead of Holtby, and something a bit more on the table like Perreault. Though, the Avs are reportedly trying to unload Liles…I don’t know how exactly good Statsny is but he looked strong when the Avs were healthy.

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by sydtron on Feb 23, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

My thought is that there is no way the Caps trade Neuvirth because of the fragility of Varlamov. Not when you’re going into the playoffs and Holtby is an unknown…and don’t tell me he’s not an unknown…there’s no way to know how he’ll play down the stretch and into the playoffs. And for what its worth, McPhee says he wouldn’t either.

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by NJNJ on Feb 23, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

If the opportunity to get a center, not just a rental center, happens you jump on it no matter what. They can dig up a backup and just deal with it.

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by sydtron on Feb 23, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Partially agree on getting a back up but at what cost? Time is ticking and prices are inflated…

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by NJNJ on Feb 23, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Has to be someone cheap out there. Hell, Kolzig laced ‘em up. So long as his hip doesn’t blow out we’d be ok. Well, if the hip doesn’t blow out, launch across the ice and block a shot.

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by sydtron on Feb 23, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Ty Conklin has an expiring contract in St. Louis and is signed for 1.5 million per year. That’s highly doable right there, especially if the Caps are shipping out some salary.

by Wheeler on Feb 23, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Prices are inflated for areas of demand. Not sure the same can be said for goalies, just look how many quality (or even “quality”) guys were available cheap over the summer. For a #1 guy like Vokoun, sure, you’ll pay through the nose…a backup, though? Meh.

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by Becca H on Feb 23, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

works for me!

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by NJNJ on Feb 23, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn't see this discussed yet....

Got the season ticket renewal email today. Looks like we’re getting a 17% bump in the Mezzanine End. (which is now broken out into attack and defend, so it’s $2 more per ticket to see us shoot twice)

Did all of the other sections get similar increases? $400 more per season for 2 tickets hurts a little. At least they softened the blow with a customized Ozzie Osbourne flash intro…..

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That 10% DC entertainment tax is a killer. Of course, if the new mayor wasn’t handing out Wall Street-like salaries to his top aides maybe DC wouldn’t need the money so badly.

by b.orr4 on Feb 23, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

….or the council chairman wasn’t charging the City 1900 a month for the lease on his Lincoln Navigator….

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 23, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Tons of outrage over this on the Tenleytown Listserv.

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by Ninjak on Feb 23, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I can imagine, especially when he already leased a gray one for 1700 a month, didn’t like that one, and leased the 1900 a month one instead. The city’s on the hook for both of those, as well as Mayor Gray’s vehicle, which is also pushing close to 2G’s a month.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 23, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah. Noticed that. Is it new?

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by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Pretty sure it was on there last year, the debate in May ’10 was that they wanted to tax it more, IIRC.

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by Bald Pollack on Feb 23, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I can’t remember for certain, but wasn’t that related to the improvements Abe made to Verizon a few years ago?

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by gfcaps fan on Feb 23, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds right (I don’t remember exactly, to be honest).

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by Bald Pollack on Feb 23, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know, but if I wanted to get screwed on city taxes I could move to NY.

by b.orr4 on Feb 23, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Center Preferred up $20 per a 22% increase. $1600 increase for two seats. i suppose if one of their games in Russia next season is a “home” game then thats one less game to pay for. So there’s that…

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by dcsportsfan1 on Feb 23, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

My center preferred only went up $5 per ticket. I am in Caps defend twice zone.

by Karl W on Feb 23, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

My renewal price actually went DOWN substantially because they’re adjusting some club level amenities. I was very, very happy when I got the package in the mail.

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by Scott in Shaw on Feb 23, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting note from Dreger:

Sources say Dallas Stars general manager Joe Nieuwendyk is exploring interest in Brad Richards.

by b.orr4 on Feb 23, 2011 12:02 PM EST reply actions  

I’m shocked.

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah this notion on defending big D that the neal-gogo trade was meant to clear cap space for brad richards—that somehow it’s a sign richards is staying—doesn’t make sense to me. james neal was a first-line player with a $2.88M cap hit, i.e. jeff schultz money. he’s a great bargain, at least through next season. if the stars were trying to clear cap space (or even real dollars) for richards, there were a dozen other players to offload before neal.

by Natty Bumppo on Feb 23, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

GMJN was just on NHLN and he said the team was really struggling to get the puck out of their end and that they were relying too heavily on Robidas so they think Gogo will help them get the puck up ice now.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

If yesterday was any indication, he won’t help them there. He turned the puck over in the neutral zone twice in the last minute – with an empty net. Might be partially due to it being his first game though.

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by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

First game without a team practice and arriving late because of travel issues, if I’m not mistaken. Talk about a rough intro…

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by Becca H on Feb 23, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

If that’s the case… ouch. Hard to blame him.

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by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

We won the Blues game with Hannan ‘observing’, then lost the next eight. I won’t be too quick to judge.

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by EmilyB on Feb 23, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I haven’t read anything on the actual site but my sense from Twitter convos was that the DBD guys believe it was a small salary dump from a position where they could afford to do so. There are probably a lot of guys who could come off the books to relieve salary but the issues were probably whether a) the Stars could afford to lose them from a hockey standpoint or b) other teams were willing to take on the bigger salary.

But I’m not too familiar with the situation in Dallas so this is really just my read on it. And I don’t think anyone, including the DBD guys, believe this is entirely a salary dump. They wouldn’t have taken a roster player back if it was.

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by Becca H on Feb 23, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

my belief is that moving a first-line player at that cap hit actually hurts your long-term salary cap prognosis rather than helping it—personnel needs aside. i definitely think it was a deal made to improve the team (the stars either value neal lower than others or gogo higher than others). but many of the commenters at DBD are playing up the saved cap space as if to draw conclusions about richards. honestly i think fans are looking for ways to make the deal more palatable for themselves, which makes sense.

by Natty Bumppo on Feb 23, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I listened to Nieuwendyk on XM a while ago. He admitted he was listening to all offers. Seems to be a concensus among the commentators that no one would take Richards in light of his concussion.

by Karl W on Feb 23, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

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Capitals Next to Deal?

The Caps are VERY high on Andy McDonald right now, however they may be closer to making a deal with Minnesota. There are murmurs out there of a possible Semin for Burns swap, but honestly this feels more speculative than anything else. The Capitals had discussed Brunette a few weeks back, but that appears to have faded.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 23, 2011 12:04 PM EST reply actions  

Somebody’s high on something.

I blame Schultz

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but I didn’t write that article.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I can’t see any GM giving up equal value for Semin simply because they have no idea how he’s going to react to being take out of his comfort zone and away from Ovechkin. His value to Washington is much higher that it is to any other team in the league.

by b.orr4 on Feb 23, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Meh. Double meh. Sounds like George, though.

by CVDTerp on Feb 23, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

McDonald is almost $5MM per year for 2 more years. Pass.

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by Ninjak on Feb 23, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Burns is probably one of my favorite players in the league outside of the Capitals. He’s had injury trouble in the past but is a straight up stud on the blueline. That being said, i don’t know if i’d be comfortable trading Semin straight up for him

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From Helene Elliott
Ray Emery has been recalled by Ducks and is on his way to SoCal…let the fun begin!

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 23, 2011 12:13 PM EST reply actions  

The Hart Trophy citation says that the award goe to the player judged to be most valuable to his team. Based on the confederacy of dunces sent out (or about to be sent out) to play in the Anaheim net recently, I’d be voting for Jonas Hiller.

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by ThePeerless on Feb 23, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

After the Olympics, is it any wonder that Hiller is one of the best in the league? The -illers both carried the hell out of their teams.

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by sydtron on Feb 23, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Foodland Hockey Cards

I was going to make a Randy Hillier joke, then I got distracted in discovering that Foodland used to make Pittsburgh Penguin hockey cards…

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 23, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that part of the “Cannibal Trading Card Set?” Yeah…Foodland knows what you like…on your dinner table …Mario Lemieux!

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by ThePeerless on Feb 23, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Too greasy.

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by Becca H on Feb 23, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Per McKenzie:

CGY puts Ales Kotalik on re-entry waivers, BUF puts Craig Rivet on waivers, PHI puts Nik Zherdev on waivers, NSH puts on Marek Svatos.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 23, 2011 12:22 PM EST reply actions  

no, hell no, for God’s sake are you kidding me?, and what are you smoking?!

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by ThePeerless on Feb 23, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t say we should get any of those guys…just posting it as a news item.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 23, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course, if I had learned reading comprehension in elementary school….

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 23, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think Zherdev’s such a bad option for some team. Last year of his deal, $2M (so, what, $400k prorated).

by RCheli on Feb 23, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

If the Caps claimed Zherdev on waivers, I will go to the Giant, buy a frozen turkey, drive to Kettler, and beat McPhee to death with it.

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by ThePeerless on Feb 23, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

turkey being the fowl of choice because….wait for it…

Zherdev is a turkey

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by ThePeerless on Feb 23, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Meh. He’s a cornish game hen at most.

by RCheli on Feb 23, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Just what this team needs – a poor man’s hobo’s Alex Semin.

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by J.P. on Feb 23, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

And if we do claim him it could well end up being a stabbed hobo.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

wow

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“Never really seen anything like it. Zherdev bolted out the side door to avoid media and hopped in a limo and left with a smile on his face.”

by sk84fun_dc on Feb 23, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow. I can’t even begin to understand what goes on in his head.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

According to Panaccio (CSN Philly), Holmgren said Zherdev’s agent wanted him waived…so I suppose this is what he wanted, hence the smile. Guess that whole “bench the diva so he straightens up” plan didn’t really work out for the Flyers.

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by Becca H on Feb 23, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

At least they tried it…

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by J.P. on Feb 23, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Did they though? They benched him, but did they ever play him again after they benched him for a few games? I thought it ended up being a stretch of something like 6 games straight without playing.

by sk84fun_dc on Feb 23, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

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Dunno. I was just opening up a can of worms and baiting some folks. Essentially, this:

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by J.P. on Feb 23, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha. If you think you were the first one pulling out the bait, my friend…I didn’t mention it for no reason at all :D I’m on to your tricks.

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by Becca H on Feb 23, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

So is that what the babysitter is supposed to feed the kids?

by sk84fun_dc on Feb 23, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, whatever works.

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by J.P. on Feb 23, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

You’ll need a much fancier rig than that to make this member of “The Lobby” to take the bait.

by mechanicsville on Feb 23, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

…or use correct sentence construction for that matter.

by mechanicsville on Feb 23, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Fire Boudreau?

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by kingzman264 on Feb 23, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

and there you go, following up on my comments which appear below and were typed while you were posting this.

by sk84fun_dc on Feb 23, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha :P Sorry…and yeah, I saw at least 3 different Philly reporters say they saw him smile. At least the context makes it seem a little less obnoxious but still, not impressed, Nikky Z.

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by Becca H on Feb 23, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the info. and context

by sk84fun_dc on Feb 23, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, our ‘wow’ comments do include a lot of reading into that tweet, fwiw.

Did he really smile? Is it a writer looking for things? Do we know why he smiled if he did, nope.

He wouldn’t be the first player uninterested in speaking to the media when going through a difficult time.

Oh and no, I don’t want the Caps to claim him.

by sk84fun_dc on Feb 23, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

a hobo’s alex semin could come in handy when we trade semin+perreault for richards

by Sjomin on Feb 23, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

A hobo’s Alex Semin could come us handy when the real Alex Semin disappears for weeks at a time.

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by Ninjak on Feb 23, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

NSH, bunch of jerks. Steal Svatos away from the Blues and then put him on waivers anyway.

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by boutros23 on Feb 23, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Just watch. Tomorrow the Sharks will put Wellwood on waivers too.

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 23, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

The only thing that waves on Wellwood is his gut

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 23, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, what? Huh.

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

So do you think that means they are making roster room for a possible trade?

It was my understanding he recently returned from an injury and missed a month, he was out due to injury not just being scratched part of that time, correct?

by sk84fun_dc on Feb 23, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, he’s played in 2 of 3 games since returning from injury, I’m pretty baffled. Goc, O’Reilly, and Lombardi are on IR so the only extra forward is now Wade Belak which is unacceptable. Have to think either Lombardi’s healthier than we think (he was swimming on Monday) or there’s a move coming.

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks. Yes, I knew there were some injuries.

It is an interesting move.

by sk84fun_dc on Feb 23, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Is this the first time the Sabres have tried to waive Rivet? He’s been a healthy scratch a ton but I don’t remember seeing his name pop up on the waiver wires before…which is amazing. Feel like they’ve been letting the poor guy dangle all freaking season.

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by Becca H on Feb 23, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Rough way to treat a captain, for sure. Wouldn’t mind the Preds taking a flyer on him.

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by Chris Burton on Feb 23, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s really slowed down. The Sabres aren’t setting the world on fire, and if Rivet can’t get into that line-up, I don’t see how he’d be that beneficial to a playoff-bound team.

by RCheli on Feb 23, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Well when you have defensive studs like Shaonne Morrisonn keeping you out of the lineup…

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 23, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry Shaone

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 23, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh…my read on it is it’s a little of both. I don’t think he and Ruff see eye to eye and between that and the fact that he has slowed down a lot (and has been out injured, as well) the number of games he’s played in has dropped dramatically.

Whatever. Craig’s a great guy, he deserves better – if they weren’t going to use him they should have waived him eons ago and let him find a place that would. There are certainly worse defensemen floating around the NHL…

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by Becca H on Feb 23, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Rivet must have been a Hab…

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

Obviously you know he was. But I’ve said similar about people who have been neither Habs nor Caps (and bashed guys who have been), so…shut it.

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by Becca H on Feb 23, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I know Rivet does a lot of charity work with hospitals in Northern Ontario.

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 23, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s really slowed down

Yep. Not a good option for this team, especially given the cap hit (a pro-rated $3.5m).

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by J.P. on Feb 23, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, he’s one of those guys who maybe just maybe could play one last stretch of solid games, but he was slow/ineffective last few times I saw him play.

by sk84fun_dc on Feb 23, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I was wondering whether it related in part to roster slot and/or the new owner and money, but yes, he has been sitting around for awhile.

by sk84fun_dc on Feb 23, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Looked it up, last game played was 1/11; he played a stretch between late Dec and mid-Jan, but the minutes in the January games weren’t much for anyone let alone a dman

by sk84fun_dc on Feb 23, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, he’s basically been in Ruff’s doghouse for the last year. I always liked Rivet – not enough that I’d want him here but I certainly don’t think he’s deserved the treatment he’s gotten up in Buffalo.

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by Becca H on Feb 23, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, I knew he was in the doghouse, I honestly wasn’t sure when the last time he played in a game was so I looked it up.

by sk84fun_dc on Feb 23, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

So does anyone know about the draft eligibility of players who have already played in college?

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by Ovechwin on Feb 23, 2011 1:25 PM EST reply actions  

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 23, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I approve of the second statement. ;)

I blame Schultz

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

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by sk84fun_dc on Feb 23, 2011 1:42 PM EST reply actions  

per Vogel, Hendricks just signed a two year extension!

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by gfcaps fan on Feb 23, 2011 1:43 PM EST reply actions  

Kindly continue discussion here.

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by J.P. on Feb 23, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

z

woot, and there’s the 2 year Hendricks extension if it’s 1.6 combined, right deal :)

by sk84fun_dc on Feb 23, 2011 1:44 PM EST reply actions  

YES

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by Ovechwin on Feb 23, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

A little higher than I wanted per year, but about what I expected could happen.

by sk84fun_dc on Feb 23, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

You don’t think he’s worth $800,000 a year? In my book, for everything he does that’s a bargain.

by b.orr4 on Feb 23, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

IMO that’s a steal.

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by cuqui on Feb 23, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely. Dude came in here on a TRYOUT, and has blown everyone away. Well earned.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 23, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, I am not complaining, but fact is he came into camp just trying to earn a contract; couldn’t get a one way deal from his prior team. I expected him to get a raise and a one-way contract. Committing to 2 years and one-way contract goes along with what I expect the actual dollars to look like.

It’s all about perspective and in my opinion perspective includes context of term and dollars combined as well as other factors.

I was not happy with the Erskine, Bradley or Steckel contracts not because I was unhappy any of the players re-signed, but because of the combination of term and dollars.

by sk84fun_dc on Feb 23, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Hendy for 800k? I’m a huge fan.

I blame Schultz

by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

same here. I don’t buy “overpayment”. $800 K for a character guy who is on a 10ish goal, 29ish point pace over 82 games seems perfectly reasonable.

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by Sombrero Guy on Feb 23, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

00

Katie just tweeted it

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 23, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Always love this part of the press release, even as everyone already knows the terms

In keeping with club policy, financial terms of the deal were not disclosed.

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Capitals sign Matt Hendricks to a two-year extension
By Katie Carrera

The Capitals have signed forward Matt Hendricks to a two-year extension worth $1.6 million the team announced Wednesday.

Hendricks joined Washington on a professional try-out contract at the start of training camp and impressed the Capitals’ coaches and front office to be signed to a one-year deal worth $575,000 this season. With 19 points (seven goals) and 84 penalty minutes in 57 games for the Capitals this season, Hendricks has quickly become a fan-favorite.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 23, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

So what does this mean for Bradley? He’s gotta be sweating a little bit, it does give the Caps more leverage. I don’t think it makes Bradley totally expendable though, you need depth in your checkers because those guys will get hurt. I also think it could be a real strong lineup with both of those guys on the 4th line.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Great question… for the post on it, if you would, good sir.

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by J.P. on Feb 23, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, my bad. Was writing it as you tried to redirect traffic.

by Rob Parker on Feb 23, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Post up for further discourse on this lovely deal.

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by J.P. on Feb 23, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

And there we go:

WAS’s Nick Backstrom did sustain a fracture but it’s at tip of finger and may not result in any missed games. Apparently not too serious.

Per Bob McKenzie.

by Wheeler on Feb 23, 2011 2:56 PM EST reply actions  

And that’s why people shouldn’t go crazy about inital reports, particularly when they’re from another country. Looks like something got lost in translation both from the doc to Nick and from Nick to the Swedish journalist.

by b.orr4 on Feb 23, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

The cause of the injury was a slash from Kris Letang that the referees didn’t blow the whistle for. After the game the X-Ray showed a fracture in the thumb.

[Backstrom:] “Yes there is a little fracture. It’s too bad that it happened but I don’t think it feels that bad.”

If the young Swede … will have to watch from the sideline’s is unclear at the moment.

“I don’t know I think I’m day-to-day and right now. I feel ok, but we have to wait and see how it feels in the next couple of days.”

Where does it say that is serious?

Looks like something got lost in translation both from the doc to Nick and from Nick to the Swedish journalist.

Again I point to the quotes above and ask: How do you figure that? Where is the big misunderstanding you are talking about?

If you don’t think you can trust translations my recommendation to you would be to stop reading them.

by Malin A on Feb 23, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions   4 recs

I think you took the “lost in translation” quote a little too literally. It’s a colloquialism in English that essentially means that some meaning got lost from what the doctor told Nick to what Nick then told the journalist. I don’t believe it was meant as a critique of your translation.

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by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I now what lost in translation means, it’s one of my favorite movies.
I just don’t think the Swedish report and Bobby Mac’s report differ that much.

by Malin A on Feb 23, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

You just like it because it has Marcus’s sister in it hehe ;).

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 23, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok. I just know that when I’m speaking one of my non-native languages, I miss all sorts of colloquialisms, but your English is better than my Italian and Spanish. :)

Anyhow, I don’t think he was criticizing your translations – we all appreciate them very much. :)

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by D'ohboy on Feb 23, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you’re taking my comment way too personal. The point I was making, and this happens to a lot of people, is that the doctor may say fracture and mean a small bone chip but Nick hears that and thinks something more serious. Then he says he’s got a thumb fracture to the Swedish journalist and leaves out the part about the small chip and even though he says it’s day to day, the journalist hears fracture and thinks it might be a major injury. I said yesterday that I was going to wait until I heard something from the club before I freaked out for precisely that reason. It had nothing to do with the translation. I’m sure that was perfectly accurate. It had to do with the journalist wanting to get the story out first. It’s not a Swedish thing, it’s a journalist thing. I have no propblem with you translating it or the Rink running it.

by b.orr4 on Feb 23, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not sure what was wrong with the initial story that was suddenly rectified by McKenzie’s tweet. They’re saying exactly the same thing.

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by SmallZ827 on Feb 23, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

But what from that initial report has been disputed or debunked?

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by J.P. on Feb 23, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m with Malin here – there is no difference between "Yes there is a little fracture. It’s too bad that it happened but I don’t think it feels that bad" and McKenzie’s “Nick Backstrom did sustain a fracture but it’s at tip of finger and may not result in any missed games. Apparently not too serious,” other than that one came directly from the player’s mouth.

So anyone who went crazy about the initial reports did so because they inferred something that wasn’t there – the reports from Sweden yesterday and North America yesterday and today weren’t contradictory at all. Where’s the disconnect?

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by J.P. on Feb 23, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

The disconnect is that the headline said “Nick Backstrom has Broken Thumb” when it appears all he had was a tiny chip at the tip of his finger. You’ve got to admit that when you hear broken thumb, you don’t think little chip. People saw the headline then combined it with Nick’s comments that the doctor told him he had a fracture and the lack of any comment from the club and assumed the worst. The fact that Nick said it was “day to day” meant little because players always say that. In hindsight, the journalist probably should have taken what Nick said, waited until he got a comment from the club and then written his story.

by b.orr4 on Feb 23, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

So his thumb’s not broken?

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by SmallZ827 on Feb 23, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry to pile on, but yeah, I don’t see any difference between the original report and the Bob tweet.

“little fracture” = “fracture…at tip of finger”

“I don’t think it feels that bad” = “Apparently not too serious”

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by Scott in Shaw on Feb 23, 2011 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

good news, imo. won’t require a big cast liek Schultz did. not much that can be done when you break it that far up anyways.

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by RedBirdie on Feb 23, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I would imagine they’ll probably just reinforce his glove to prevent any further damage. Still, it probably wasn’t the smartest thing for Nick to do in releasing that kind of information. Now he can expect every opposing player to be handing out “love taps” right to the injured thumb. He would have been better served not saying anything.

by b.orr4 on Feb 23, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it just going to be painful or will it restrict his motion at all?

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by Kolzilla on Feb 23, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Doesn’t anyone wonder how McKenzie got this and no one else did? I know he’s good, but he’s not Nick’s doctor. Hmm, maybe he’s related to someone in the doctor’s office…. ;)

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"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Feb 23, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t be surprised, given McKenzie’s stature in hockey, that he didn’t place a call directly to McPhee who told him off the record what was up.

by b.orr4 on Feb 23, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha :P I think he probably called the team and asked; Katie’s got something about it up now, too.

If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.

by Becca H on Feb 23, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

just looked at our remaining schedule

is it just me, or does it appear relatively easy?

Moreover, it appears marginally easier than Tampa Bay’s…

by j762 on Feb 23, 2011 3:37 PM EST reply actions  

Scottie Upshall just received a 2 game suspension for a hit on Bartulis last night. Unfortunately, it means Phoenix will have to do without him when they play Tampa tonight. Here’s the link, which also has a video of the hit: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=553918

Matt Bradley: He has sensitive skin, no?

by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2011 5:51 PM EST reply actions  

Bartulis is out for the season, according to Bob McKenzie.

Matt Bradley: He has sensitive skin, no?

by timmyv38 on Feb 23, 2011 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Hershey at Toronto

Looks like Joudrey, Fahey, and Souray are all back in the line-up

Holtby in goal

http://theahl.com/stats/game-summary.php?game_id=1008190

by sk84fun_dc on Feb 23, 2011 6:49 PM EST reply actions  

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