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Recap: Capitals 1, Penguins 0

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The style of tonight's game wasn't too difficult to predict before the opening face-off. On one hand you had a Caps team playing on back-to-back days at the end of a five-game cross-country road trip and still missing vital players, including Mike Green.  On the other hand, Pittsburgh was also playing on back-to-back days and missing their two superstars - Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin - as well as a host of other players due to injury or trade. With both rivals in recent scoring droughts and neither team clicking on all cylinders, the game would likley become a low-scoring battle of wills.

It was exactly that. 

The Caps withstood a barrage of shots in the first period, broke the stalemate with a power play goal on an Alex Ovechkin rocket in the second period, and held off Pittsburgh's flurry in the third period to win an intense, playoff-style hockey game and earn Michal Neuvirth his third shutout of the season. The contest was a hockey purist's dream, full of hitting, disciplined defensive play and excellent goaltending. The win now leaves the Caps one point behind Tampa for the Southeast division lead and three points behind Pittsburgh for fourth place in the Eastern Conference.

Ten more notes on the game:

  • Neuvirth deserved all three stars of the game for his effort tonight, bailing out the Caps in the first period with 18 saves and then coming through again in an intense third period, stopping another 14 shots. He had 39 saves over the course of the night - several of them of the highlight-reel variety - and he looked confident in net, minimizing rebounds. The shutout was his second straight against the Penguins, and there are no doubts that Dan Blysma's 24/7 quip about Neuvirth being "shaky" has been a motivating factor for #30. For the time being Neuvirth is not ready to relinquish the starting duties to Semyon Varlamov, and that heightened competition can only be good for the Caps as the playoffs approach.
  • Pittsburgh came out motivated and dominated the first period, outhsooting the Caps 18-7 and out-hitting them 15-14. However, a hockey adage is that when you dominate the first 10 minutes of a game and don't build a lead it comes back to haunt you. Tonight it did.
  • It's clear that the Caps defensive game is rounding out nicely. The team collapsed the middle and took away high scoring chances from the Penguins in the third period. However, the Caps need to play more aggressively on offense with the lead. They only had four shots on goal after Ovechkin's tally late in the second period, with no shots coming in the final 7:19 of the game.
  • Win the special teams battle and you win games. The Caps won that battle tonight, going 1-for-3 on the power play and killing off all three Pittsburgh manpower advantages.
  • It hurts me to compliment the Penguins, but they could have very easily played into the Caps hands and opened things up after the Caps took a lead. They didn't. They stuck to their game plan and kept on battling. That's the sign of a well-coached, disciplined team, and it's why they've played well despite the absence of their superstars.
  • Credit the Penguins again (sorry!) on Alex Ovechkin's first breakaway opportunity in the first period. Although Ovechkin was able to split the middle and walk in on Marc-Andre Fleury, the Penguins defensemen were right on his heels and gave him no room to prepare for a wrist-shot or deke to his right.  He only had his back-hand to move to, which was easily telegraphed and stopped by Fleury. It demonstrates that you should never give up on a play.
  • Not surprisingly, Alex Semin had minimal impact in this game. The tight-checking nature of the contest negated his skill, which is showcased in free-flow, Run-n-Gun hockey. However he did manage his way on the scoresheet with one of the odder penalties he's taken, a cross-rink clearing attempt - with no one covering him - that sailed off his stick into the stands. He made up for it (somewhat) with his strong back-check on Jordan Staal's breakaway in the second period, which was just enough to prevent Staal from going to his backhand and getting a better shot on Neuvirth.
  • It appeared that the Dirty Matt Cooke saga would dissipate with a quiet first period. That was until Matt Bradley laid Cooke out in front of the net in the second period. Bradley then followed it up with what looked to be a clean hit on Cooke in the corners, but the referees determined that Bradley took two steps and charged him with a, umm, well, a charge. In the end it all worked out: Bradley didn't cost the Caps any shorthanded time, a message was sent to Matt Cooke, and, for Caps fans at least, justice was served.
  • It wouldn't be the last we heard from Matt Bradley, who answered the bell when Ryan Craig requested a dance a few minutes later. While the Versus announcers waxed poetic about Craig's "leadership" in defending Matt Cooke's honor, it was Bradley who honored "the code" by giving Craig his shot and then winning the bout.
  • Today's under-the-radar player who had a great game? Not Alex Ovechkin. His goal, eight shots and four hits are par for the course. How about Jeff Schultz? 21:31 of ice time, strong play on the penalty kill, three blocked shots, and he even threw his body around a bit. Way to go Mr. Nasty!
While some may see this victory as hollow due to Pittsburgh missing Crosby and Malkin, they shouldn't. Certainly, the return of key players from injury and the injection of new bodies via trade will change the shape of both rosters should these teams meet again this season. But the intensity and dislike on both sides still burns bright whether it's Ovechkin and Crosby staring each other down or whether it's Jeff Schultz and Tyler Kennedy growling at one another. The crests on the front of the jerseys breed a rabid contempt with the opposing team and the absence of key players doesn't change that fact. Any win over the Penguins is a joyous occasion for humanity Caps fans, and winning the season series 3-0-1, including two shutouts, should only add to the happiness.

The Caps have four days to recoup from this brutally-fought game before hosting the New York Rangers on Friday night. Hopefully the team will build on this successful road trip - primarily the past two games - and start making a run to the top of the standings in the final quarter of the season. It would be about time.

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Aaaaaaaaaaand I’m still pissed at fucking Mike Millbury.

But tomorrow is another day.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 21, 2011 11:21 PM EST reply actions  

It’ll be the same.

by richdvn on Feb 21, 2011 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

2 points. I’m betting a lot of people worrying about us making the playoffs aren’t singing that tune anymore. On the flip side, we still have work to do if we want to make any noise once we get there.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:21 PM EST reply actions  

If all games in hand are victories (and that may not be possible depending upon who plays whom), we’re 8 points in. Buffalo and Carolina can both get to 66 with 61 games played.

I think we’re in much better shape after going 3-2 on this roadie.

And five of the next seven games are against non-playoff teams: NYR, NYI, NYI, STL, FLA, TBL, EDM

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by STLSpidey on Feb 21, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

NYI is playing well, and they always play us tough. We drop at least one of those games.

by Rob Parker on Feb 21, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Ya think?

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he means they’ll split with the Isle.

I tend to agree with him. As for the rest of the games…4-2-1? overall?

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by fat_daddyo on Feb 21, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I would take 9 out of a possible 14.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I meant we drop one to NYI. This is still the same team that hasn’t shown tonight’s urgency when they weren’t playing PIT or PHI (with a few other examples). I expect them to look relatively bored for a big part of that stretch. Maybe a trade shakes things up. We’ll see.

by Rob Parker on Feb 21, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Florida and TBL are away games back-to-back. Unfortunately TBL is the back end.

NYI is also a back-to-back, with the home game the 2nd game.

4-2-1 doesn’t sound unreasonable. Beat NYR, STL, EDM at home. Split with the Isles and steal a point in Florida from the two games?

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by STLSpidey on Feb 21, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d have to think the guys will put up a big effort against Tampa. Too tough to predict 7 games in advance with this team.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

NYR, STL, EDM at home.

At least one of these will be an L/OTL/SOL. My guess is SOL vs. StL.

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by D'ohboy on Feb 21, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know, isn’t Halak still on IR? They’d be facing Conklin or…Ben Bishop, if I’m remembering my third-tier backups. Not that they don’t have a habit of making mediocre goalies look like Roy in his prime, but still…

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by Becca H on Feb 21, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

He could come off IR by March 3. But, for now, you are correct.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 21, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Not so sure. I’m thinking Berglund puts at least one in against his old team.

/writing from my time machine

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by STLSpidey on Feb 21, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Enjoy Shatty and Stewie.

/Single tear./

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by D'ohboy on Feb 21, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Now that the Blues have those two, they’ll give us Berglund or Oshie, right?

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by STLSpidey on Feb 21, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Wouldn’t that be lovely? If Oshie goes, the Blues lose their entire under-14 female fan base.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 21, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s clearly their new angle.

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 21, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

There’s still a lot of room left. I think we’ll make it, but the short term goal is to take TB (natch.) I think we can take this, but we gotta get the O integrated into the defense.

by richdvn on Feb 21, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

They’ll make the playoffs. In fact, I’m 98.2% sure they’ll make it.

by b.orr4 on Feb 21, 2011 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

And that’s as conservative a prediction as you will find (numerically).

by cajuncook on Feb 21, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Somewhere, Mets fans who read this blog are squirming. Mightily.

by richdvn on Feb 21, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha… true. Not in until you’re in, but things are bright at the moment. Given tonight’s two points, the Caps might be more likely to be the #1 seed than miss the playoffs. If not, it’s damn close.

by cajuncook on Feb 21, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Great point, Dave. While we’re on the subject, I had done a quick calculation on the Caps playoff chances over the weekend. I was doing a worst case scenario type of thing where I supposed that if the Caps played at a 3-5-2 pace for the rest of the year, how good would the bubble teams have to play. The 9th place team would have to play better than .600, assuming no Bettman points. And that, of course, assumes all other teams in between play well enough to pass the Caps.

So, that reassured me that the odds were in our favor.

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by CapsFan75 on Feb 21, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

In response to all 3 above me, the outlook now is more on who we can catch above us (most notably Tampa) versus how close we are to 9th catching us.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d agree. I must admit my outlook was more pessimistic on Saturday when I made that calculation. But it ended up being more reassuring.

And time for Tampa to regress to the mean!

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by CapsFan75 on Feb 21, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Things being tougher for us all the way to the end isn’t a bad thing in my mind. Everything still depends on us putting it all together and some of our stars finding their games. Ovie continued his little hot run. Signs of life.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Now we need Nicky and Sasha to get it together again. Although we see signs of life from them every so often.

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by CapsFan75 on Feb 21, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Have you been to www.sportsclubstats.com? That site will do it for you. In fact, that site takes into consideration the schedule, for not everyone can get max points when they play each other.

As of this morning, it showed the Caps with a 99.6% chance of making the playoffs.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 21, 2011 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Very nice chart! I noticed they’ve moved San Jose’s chances down in spite of the fact they’ve been hot lately. But their chances are in the 80% range.

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by CapsFan75 on Feb 21, 2011 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s updated every night. In fact, it was already updated tonight. When you dig into the site and look at the stats, it’s can be very mesmerizing.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 21, 2011 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, looking at Atlanta and Colorado’s charts looks downright painful.

by brooksengr on Feb 21, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

i like that site. I usually look at what pace (standings points per game) the team has to stay at to get to a 99, 90, 50 % chance of being in the playoffs.
99% chance: 0.452 (93 pts)
90% chance: 0.381 (90 pts)
50% chance: 0.310 (87 pts)

by brooksengr on Feb 21, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Where do you see that?

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by STLSpidey on Feb 21, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

click on the Washington Capitals team name. It gives an individual summary of the possible outcomes, and related chances of various seed. Plus the number of times in the 100,000 run simulation it occurs.

by brooksengr on Feb 21, 2011 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Forgot about that page. Thanks.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 21, 2011 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

err.. more like 10 million runs or so. Eh, Monte Carlo gets a little silly as computing power expands.

by brooksengr on Feb 21, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I won’t be satisfied until we can numerically solve each NHL season. There’s only, oh, 37 followed by 370 zeros possible combinations. Alllmost there, right?

by cajuncook on Feb 21, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I’m off by a factor of two.

by cajuncook on Feb 21, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Which means we can be just under .500 from here on out and make the playoffs.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 21, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

well, if the team can reach 97 pts, it’s a lock, apparently (“Yes”). If they hover around a .300 pace, it’s fighting for the 8 seed territory. At 82 pts (0.143), there’s still a 1% chance of getting in, apparently.

by brooksengr on Feb 21, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

And yet another game where Nicky cannot find his mojo. When he does, we’re going to start seeing 3 and 4 goal games from this offense again.

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by Ninjak on Feb 21, 2011 11:23 PM EST reply actions  

I’ll take a shutout against the Pens any time…

by Danny Burrito on Feb 21, 2011 11:24 PM EST reply actions  

Given that the one loss to the Pens was in the shootout, in four games Caps goalies gave up a grand total of three goals. Not too shabby.

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by gfcaps fan on Feb 21, 2011 11:24 PM EST reply actions  

good point to be made…even with Sid and Malkin in the lineup for the first 2 tilts they only put up 3 goals.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Against shaky goaltenders!

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by CapsFan75 on Feb 21, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

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by PensAreYourDaddy on Feb 21, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I liked watching Ovi in the last 4 minutes or so, knocking heads and throwing bodies in the middle of one of the scrums. Could tell he really wanted to win.

by brooksengr on Feb 21, 2011 11:26 PM EST reply actions  

Good game. Neuvirth is still shaky.

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by PensAreYourDaddy on Feb 21, 2011 11:29 PM EST reply actions  

Be interesting to see how you guys look once the new acquisitions settle in and/if Crosby comes back

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, stay tuned, sports fans. It’s sure to be a bumpy ride.

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by PensAreYourDaddy on Feb 21, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

It will be fun though

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Fortunately for us, so is MAF.

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by fat_daddyo on Feb 21, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Fleury played fairly well…I don’t think anyone was stopping that Ovie bomb.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, good thing you guys gave poor Hooks such a hard time, saying how unimportant it was whether Ovie scores or not.

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by PensAreYourDaddy on Feb 21, 2011 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Good thing he mentioned that AO hadn’t scored on the Pens yet.

by Rob Parker on Feb 21, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, we all knew it was coming sooner or later.

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by PensAreYourDaddy on Feb 21, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but Knubs didn’t pot one.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, we’ve got him solved.

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by PensAreYourDaddy on Feb 21, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

points streak still active tho

by discuit on Feb 22, 2011 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

he got the secondary assist on Ovie’s goal though

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by Elliotte on Feb 22, 2011 8:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha touche, although I said not a word about it. Was curious haven’t looked over there yet, what were thoughts on the Carlson stick lift on Talbot? Grudging acceptance or screaming for heads to roll on non call?

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Good question. Looked like a good play to me. Not that the refs ever let that stop them from making a call.

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by PensAreYourDaddy on Feb 21, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

They certainly do love to call the hook anytime the stick is even in the vicinity of the shooter’s hands. Semin knows all about that.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

It was a shockingly good call. Carlson poked, but his hands were off Talbot, when Talbot keeled over. Looked worse live, but good no call on the replay.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 21, 2011 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I was just riffing on MAF’s tendency play either very well or horridly.

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by fat_daddyo on Feb 21, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

just iike cooke is still the class of the NHL

by aaw6848 on Feb 21, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

haha yea, so many rebounds!

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by Ovechwin on Feb 21, 2011 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

lolz

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by snowburnt on Feb 22, 2011 8:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Man, that was a grindey, grindey game. I will say that the Caps stood up to it, even though the Pens are dressing a bunch of plumbers.

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by fat_daddyo on Feb 21, 2011 11:29 PM EST reply actions  

1 point behind Tampa.

Doubters gonna doubt.

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by Steck It Out on Feb 21, 2011 11:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I have not yet begun to doubt!

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 21, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Tampa’s really struggling right now and even with Brewer, their defense is shaky. And Roloson is starting to look his age. Comparing schedules, I really believe the Caps will catch them but it’s probably coming down to the last week of the season. The game in Tampa could decide it.

by b.orr4 on Feb 21, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

We seemed to “solve” our Rolo problem last time out against them (thanks Hendy).

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

So we don’t get a new picture? That’s from the Buffalo one and the same one in that game’s recap. For shame.

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by jaytown99 on Feb 21, 2011 11:34 PM EST reply actions  

fixed. Thanks for pointing it out.

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by Kareem E. on Feb 21, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

No prob, what’s going on in this new picture?

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by jaytown99 on Feb 21, 2011 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Ovechkin is scoring.

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by Kareem E. on Feb 21, 2011 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Why did you use the Pens as the example of a great backcheck when you could have used Carlson’s?

by Rob Parker on Feb 21, 2011 11:36 PM EST reply actions  

It was truly a beautiful stick-lift, but Carlson got burned giving up the breakaway in the first place so I left it out. Granted, it was a bad bounce, but he still let his man behind him.

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by Kareem E. on Feb 21, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not sure how he ended up behind there. Did he pinch on offense? He doesn’t usually just lose a man and Talbot isn’t fast enough to just skate right by him (obviously).

by Rob Parker on Feb 21, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Bad bounce off the boards or a player. I think Carlson thought the puck was going in deep and that Neuvi would play it before Talbot could get to it so he let off a bit. Then the puck bounced right to a streaking Talbot….

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by Kareem E. on Feb 21, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Carlson got bailed out by Neuvy at least a couple of times. He had a rare moment of indecisiveness on a neutral zone step up in the first and it almost got him burned on an odd man rush.

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by Killer_Carlson on Feb 22, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh god that was horrendous.

I blame Schultz

by D'ohboy on Feb 22, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I did a double take when I saw 74 (or didn’t see 89). Very uncharacteristic of him.

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by Killer_Carlson on Feb 22, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

But Alzner was damn solid.

by Rob Parker on Feb 22, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Highlighted by a great block late in 3rd

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Always is.

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by Killer_Carlson on Feb 22, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Quietly Mackan has points in 4 of last 5 games. Definitely some right place right time going on there, but effort getting rewarded.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:37 PM EST reply actions  

He’s been playing good hockey. Definitely nice to see him finding some consistency and confidence.

by Rob Parker on Feb 21, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Playing with Laich and Semin and getting some more PP time helps. He’s factored into both of the PP goals (both game winners) last 2 games as well.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Speed kills.

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by Kareem E. on Feb 21, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I love it when he finds an open lane and makes himself available for the D. One man breakout.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Differential speed kills.

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by hotdog88gt on Feb 22, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t do drugs. Up with hope, down with dope!

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 22, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Playing with Semin didn’t help tonight. Guy looked like he was working off a different playbook from everyone else.

by Rob Parker on Feb 21, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

True. He actually was given a few good chances by Mackan as well…one of which he promptly killed by skating right into Mackan.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Semin was just God-awful.

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by D'ohboy on Feb 21, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Praying he gets it out of his system now and Good Sasha returns come playoff time.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

We haven’t seen Good Sasha since early December. . . maybe even earlier. (And hat trick or no, he wasn’t Good Sasha vs. Anaheim – he played like crap for much of that game.)

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by D'ohboy on Feb 21, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. I wish he’d take a look at that hat trick and realize how he scored all those goals…going to the net. You can score pretty goals from time to time Sasha and still use those sick hands to dominate around the net.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Sasha? Learn? Riiiiiiiight.

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by D'ohboy on Feb 21, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

ugh…yeah walked right into that didn’t I

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s learned it. Just like we’ve all learned what happens when you drink too much.

by Rob Parker on Feb 21, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve learned that you can’t replace 8 gills of blood with melon balls.

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by D'ohboy on Feb 21, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Holy shit 8 gills is way more than I thought it was.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 21, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

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by Sombrero Guy on Feb 22, 2011 1:44 AM EST up reply actions  

There’s a difference between being taught a lesson and learning it. I’m sure a lot of us have been taught that lesson numerous times.

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Which we promptly forget even being taught it a few nights later hahaha

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not as down on him in that game as you. I thought he was winning puck battles before the goals but just hadn’t been much of an offensive threat. He did look engaged to me though.

by Rob Parker on Feb 21, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

He did look engaged to me though.

Only after he scored.

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by D'ohboy on Feb 21, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I watched the game on DVR after seeing you make that comment. I was specifically looking at his effort and I thought he was doing alright.

by Rob Parker on Feb 21, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Semin – the Good or Bad version – is not equipped for tight-checking playoff games. It’s not his style and he’s unwilling to adapt. No smart opponent (except Anaheim, apparently) is going to let the Caps play run-n-gun hockey in the future. So we’re basically stuck paying $6M (and $6.7M next season) for a guy who wouldn’t put up 50 points playing on this current incarnation of the Caps. Hope I’m wrong but his production isn’t supporting it.

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by Kareem E. on Feb 21, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

He was good against PHI and NYR and those weren’t run and gun series. Especially not the NYR one.

by Rob Parker on Feb 21, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Beat me to it. He had 2 good series to start and 2 bad ones following. Want more data before I make a decision on whether or not he’s equipped for the playoffs

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

At the same time, PHI and NYR teams weren’t playing the Caps as tight as teams do now. From here on out, we’re going to get what Boston, Atlanta, Phoenix, San Jose have thrown at us this year. A lot of mud at center ice and nothing in the slot. NYR in 2009 did a bit of that but they didn’t take it to the level Montreal did last year or where oppoennts have taken it this year.

Semin has averaged ~35 goals/year in the Run-N-Gun. Do you think he’ll average 35g with a team playing dump-and-chase going forward?

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by Kareem E. on Feb 22, 2011 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Well his line isn’t going to be playing dump and chase. I have no idea what to predict out of Sasha, but I do think that he could put up 35-40 in the new system.

by Rob Parker on Feb 22, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

So much of his production depends on how engaged he is. When he’s playing good defense it actually helps engage him offensively as well.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t see it. He’s averaged ~35 in a run-n-gun system that has inflated player’s offensive numbers over the past several seasons. Can’t see him pulling off 35g in a more conservative system.

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by Kareem E. on Feb 22, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Once they find a balance between the O and the D I think the offense will start looking very similar. The PP coming around would also give a small boost. The key is maintaining the pressure offensively until we build a lead and then shifting into shutdown mode.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I think his numbers are more dependent on the PP clicking than the system. This system isn’t so much more defensive that he’s not able to get chances or use his skill.

by Rob Parker on Feb 22, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

so maybe then that means that semin is not a good fit for this new system. He is only defensively responsible when he chooses to be. Not saying he doe not have defensive skills, but when he doesn’t care(or is not “inspired”), it shows. He’s lethargic and apathetic when it comes to playing to a system. He does his own thing (which I admire in alot of ways, but it wont work when it comes to hockey).

by Mooose knuckle on Feb 22, 2011 1:40 AM EST up reply actions  

So you are criticizing Semin alone when everyone’s numbers are down in this new system?

by vtcapsfan99 on Feb 22, 2011 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

No. He’s pointing out that, of all the Caps, Semin’s style is the most prone to suffering in the new system.

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by D'ohboy on Feb 22, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Mainly as an extension of the theory that Semin’s style does not do well in the playoffs based on his last 2 playoff series.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Mainly as an extension of the theory that Semin’s style does not do well in the playoffs based on his last 2 playoff series.

It’s not just the last two playoff series, it’s moreso his recent results. He’s the last guy on the team to “buy in”.

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by Kareem E. on Feb 22, 2011 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I think you have a point about his style, but I don’t think he’s incapable of adjusting. Whether or not he wants to is another story. But please elaborate on his recent results proving your point. The whole 14 games without scoring before he went on IR could be possibly be explained by him being injured (BB said he was injured for 3 weeks before sitting out finally). He hasn’t be back all that long to prove anything yet in my opinion. He might still be playing somewhat injured. Personally I would want to give him the rest of the season and the playoffs before I decide he’s a bust in the new system.

by vtcapsfan99 on Feb 22, 2011 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

He’s the last guy on the team to "buy in".

THIS THIS THIS A THOUSAND TIMES THIS.

Try to think of one player on a great team who just did his own fucking thing. Try to imagine someone on Detroit or Pittsburgh or Philly or Vancouver or Boston just doing their own fucking thing and getting away with it. Torts benched Gaborik. Laviolette won’t let Zherdev see the light of day. Boudreau just keeps throwing Sasha out there.

Accountability, FTW.

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by D'ohboy on Feb 22, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

This says a lot about the coach.

Cup, please.

by fnralch on Feb 22, 2011 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Zherdev and Semin aren’t perfect comparisons though. But the point of accountability is still valid.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Torts benched Gaborik.

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by D'ohboy on Feb 22, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I get the feeling that Semin wouldn’t respond to a prick the same way.

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2011 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Which says something on its own

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

You were just looking to find a way to put Semin and prick in the same sentence.

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by D'ohboy on Feb 22, 2011 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I call bunk on the statement that Semin had a bad MTL series. He didn’t in score in a series where no one scored after Game 4. He played responsibly though.

In the Pit series, he was hurt.

I’m waiting for this year to be the deciding year whether Sasha can be effective when teams try to muddle the offense in the neutral zone. If he puts up a goose egg, we’ll have a better answer.

by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 22, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I wasn’t saying I thought he was horrible in those two series, just that that was the original point people above were making. I agree with your points.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Don’t worry, fellow mindreader. I was more responding to the idea that Semin was terrible in the MTL series, which is the common perception.

by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 22, 2011 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

All those 50ft wristers with no traffic really helped the Caps generate sustained offensive pressure.

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by D'ohboy on Feb 22, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, when there was traffic tonight he still went top shelf and drilled Mackan.

by Rob Parker on Feb 22, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

You could say that about ANYONE on the team.

The whole damn offense was figured out that series. It wasn’t just Semin being some maverick out there, throwing 50 ft wristers willy-nilly. The entire offense was stymied and looked predictable and ineffective.

by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 22, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

So if everyone commits a crime then it’s ok?

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by D'ohboy on Feb 22, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I never said it was okay. I said I thought it was a myth that Semin was absolutely worthless in that series. I recall him being good defensively, didn’t make his usual “Bad Sasha” plays.

It’s popular to point to Semin as the scapegoat of a wild disaster of a series, but he was not the biggest culprit.

by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 22, 2011 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Whatevs, if Backstrom doesn’t injure his shoulder we don’t lose 3 straight.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

He’s not the only culprit by any means, but people defend his play by citing all his SOGs, without noting how useless many of them were.

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by D'ohboy on Feb 22, 2011 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Not only that, but the rest of the top guys a least had moments where they were dominant during the series (except for maybe Green). Semin never took over a game, or a period even.

Release the Mackan!

by Killer_Carlson on Feb 22, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah Ovie and Nicky never really got “shut down” on the whole.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t cite anything he did offensively as particularly good, including his SOG, but I thought he was one of the better defensive forwards out there.

by Charlie Foxtrot on Feb 22, 2011 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I still think it’s terrible luck that you shoot 44 times and not one bounces in crazily a la A. Kostitsyn in Game 2 (his hat trick goal, went off him, Green, and Schultz).

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by red army line on Feb 22, 2011 6:32 AM EST up reply actions  

and furthermore, playing in this system, all Semin seems to do is either dump the puck with no intention to chase, stupidly take a slap shot from the blue line when entering the zone even though he has numerous other options to create a play or solidify zone presence, or give the puck up on a bad “what were you thinking?” neutral zone pass. Not saying Semin isn’t an amazingly talented player, but I don’t think his style of play or his attitude fit with the new system or identity that the team is trying to implement/create.

by Mooose knuckle on Feb 22, 2011 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I originally had a much harsher blurb on Semin in the bullets section that I scaled back so as not to offend many of his following. Your terse summation is 100% accurate.

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by Kareem E. on Feb 21, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Many? Or one? I don’t think anyone can bitch about telling it like it is tonight

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Boo. Coulda made these comments a real hoot. Pens don’t deserve two bullets.

by Rob Parker on Feb 21, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I understand, but he really deserved it tonight. Boudreau barely let him on the ice in the third (and rightly so).

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by D'ohboy on Feb 21, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

as much as I like what he can bring, and have defended him...

…it’s becoming glaringly obvious that #28’s style doesn’t fit in with the team anymore. #8 and #19 and others have subtly adjusted their games to the new system, but #28 still makes those high-risk plays that we tolerated in the old 5-4, 6-5 games we saw last year, because the high risk more often than not led to goals. In this every-game-is-Game-7 style we’ve been playing, he just doesn’t fit.

by DonnieKnutts on Feb 21, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

He was also hurt, then out for a long time. I’d wait longer before drawing any solid conclusions.

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by red army line on Feb 22, 2011 6:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Did you see the Colgate dig in the game day thread?

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by Ovechwin on Feb 21, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Such an instigator ;)

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by Ovechwin on Feb 21, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I did not. But Andy McDonald had a goal today so stuff it.

by Rob Parker on Feb 21, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Also, Cornell grads didn’t exactly represent their alma mater well today.

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by D'ohboy on Feb 21, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Hey, your beef isn’t with me :P

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by Ovechwin on Feb 21, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

And it never will be.

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Ewwwwwwwww.

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by Ovechwin on Feb 21, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Has there been any word on Poti’s return? Get Green and Poti back in the lineup will be a bit of an upgrade over Sloan and Erskine.

by mechanicsville on Feb 21, 2011 11:49 PM EST reply actions  

Sloan hasn’t been terrible. Still nothing tremendous but we’re not expecting him to be either. That said sooner he’s back to eating nachos the better.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I have this recurring nightmare that it’s game seven of the playoffs and Tyler Sloan is in the lineup.

by b.orr4 on Feb 21, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Wasn’t that possibility the reason Alzner got recalled from Hershey just for Game 7 last year?

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah. Very irritating.

by Rob Parker on Feb 21, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Ed Frankovic noted on Twitter last night that if BB had dressed Alzner instead of Sloan in Game Five, there would’ve been no Game Six.

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I prefer Alzner like, a million times over.

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by Ovechwin on Feb 22, 2011 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s so depressing to even consider.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 22, 2011 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

And yet we’ll never really know. Was Sloan really the reason we lost Game 5?

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by Becca H on Feb 22, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s not even as simple as that. The entire game changes. We’ll never know.

by Rob Parker on Feb 22, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

…I just made it as simple as that.

But yes, I know. I’m just making it simple because it’s after midnight and there’s no point in playing the what-if game about a series that was over almost a year ago. So ha so there.

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by Becca H on Feb 22, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Seemed to me it the entire first line having collective brain cramps at the same time in the beginning of the game was a bigger reason for the loss.

by vtcapsfan99 on Feb 22, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

If only we could have found out.

by Rob Parker on Feb 22, 2011 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

As has been said many times before, if Sloan wasn’t good enough for game 7, but Alzner was, why play Sloan over Alzner ever? (Because Boudreau is not a very good coach, that’s why).

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 22, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Put down the bunny, Lenny.

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by D'ohboy on Feb 22, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

His name is Rabbert.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 22, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

You can put 89 down for 2-3 horrendous d-zone turnovers per game. Doesn’t seem capable of holding the offensive blue line either. Nachos for 89 would be a good thing.

by mechanicsville on Feb 21, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s pains me to write this – but 89 has been good the past two games. Barely noticeable and a few good plays.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 21, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

has heart attack

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by Ovechwin on Feb 21, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Even a broken clock tells time right twice a day.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

A stopped clock tells the right time twice a day. A broken clock could be broken in a manner such that it is never right.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 21, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I’m going to raise an eyebrow to this and let you have your way ;)

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I respectfully disagree.

by mechanicsville on Feb 21, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

respectfully noted

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by STLSpidey on Feb 21, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Compared to his normal play…it’s been slightly better. Maybe we’re just aiming too low with expectations haha.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

A shit sandwich is slightly better than a shit sandwich filled with rusty used syringes, but it’s still not good.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 21, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Jesus H. He isn’t that bad.

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by Ovechwin on Feb 21, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Most of the time he is :)

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Nuh uhhh :p

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by Ovechwin on Feb 22, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

<3

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha I have no clue why I decided to champion Tyler Sloan.

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by Ovechwin on Feb 22, 2011 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

To be different and unique…of course.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m such a contrarian :)

Or I feel the need to protect him from the vicious wolves of Japers Rink :p

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by Ovechwin on Feb 22, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

It was the glasses.

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by EmilyB on Feb 22, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed, but when it comes to playing defense anything better is still better. Not sucking AS much could be just good enough.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Dave – my point exactly. I want another D, but 89 wasn’t sucky tonight.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 22, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think any of us are saying we prefer 89 over anyone save Fahey.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

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by Ovechwin on Feb 22, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

it took a long time for folks here to come around on 55 and then on 4. I can’t wait for 52 to come back, but I calls ‘em as I see ’em, and 89 wasn’t terrible tonight.

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by STLSpidey on Feb 21, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

positioning and defending the crease better than some times in the past. My biggest issue tonight was his inability to clear the zone.

by brooksengr on Feb 22, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

He wasn’t the only culprit there tonight. Our forwards fuck it up quite a bit sometimes trying to make too cute of a pass to open someone up. Sometimes it’s really just better to make sure it gets across that blueline.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, it just seemed every time the pens had a really long shift in the o-zone, he was out there. Pens were doing a good job holding the lines in general though.

by brooksengr on Feb 22, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Personally, in both of the last two games, in the first period I have yelled at the TV screen, thinking to myself “Oh, that’s why he gets torn apart on JR”

But then, he he has settled in and played solidly and even made some good plays.

I can resist anything, except temptation.

by alisterio on Feb 22, 2011 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I was not at all comfortable with how often Bylsma got Staal’s line out against Sloskine. I can’t imagine the Caps would have come away with a shutout if Bylsma had been able to do that with Crosby.

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by Killer_Carlson on Feb 21, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Sloan only got 11 minutes so it wasn’t all that often. But point taken.

by Rob Parker on Feb 22, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Would’ve been an entirely different game with Crosby in.

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by EmilyB on Feb 22, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Same if we have Green or Poti healthy and 89 is eating nachos.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

It should be noted how well Semin bounced back from his weird penalty. It seemed to me at the time that that would send him spiraling towards a Bad Sasha kinda night, but he kept focus and looked, really, pretty good for the entire game, stats regardless.

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Really? He looked pretty Bad Sasha throughout I thought.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep. He was responsible on D and had a teensy bit of O creation. Not his best night, but not as invisible as Kareem said above.

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 21, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, but to me that was the epitome of Bad Sasha.

Stupid unnecessary penatly? Check.

Lazy defensive play in his own zone? Check (several times he just waved or poked at the puck while it slid by him up the dasher to a Pens defenseman waiting at the point).

Lazy offensive moves that wouldn’t work in beer league after everyone’s polished off a keg of Delirium? Check.

Unwillingness to hold onto the puck to develop some offensive zone possession time? Check.

Taking lazy outside shots 3 feet high and 3 feet wide? Check.

Trying to force the puck through the box repeatedly on the power play? Check.

I blame Schultz

by D'ohboy on Feb 22, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

the one play in our zone when one of the D men had to yell at him which side of him the puck was on stands out too.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

You and I were watching different games, then, excepting most of his offense, which I already noted.

Also, blaming him for that penalty? BS.

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I think you’re pretty much alone on an island here.

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by D'ohboy on Feb 22, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Eh, it’s an island with a fortress, so I’m not too concerned.

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

How is blaming him for that penalty BS? I understand if it was a bouncing puck and he’s racing to it against a Pen just swatting at it…but he was standing still on the far boards and launched it clear over the near ones.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

He obviously shanked it. That wasn’t intentional. The puck got up on edge when he was trying to whip it cross ice. It happens. If you think it was a terrible pass to attempt then maybe you have a case but I just see it as one of those physical errors that just happens.

by Rob Parker on Feb 22, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree it was a physical error that just happens, but I didn’t like the pass choice at all there. Physical errors are definitely still on that person though.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

if you look at the replay. there wasn’t even much of a cross ice pass to make. Nobody was open. The neutral zone was filled with all 5 pens on the ice

by Mooose knuckle on Feb 22, 2011 1:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly. No one does that meaning to clear it over the glass, knowing it’s a penalty. The fact that it even IS a penalty is BS (but that’s a discussion for another day). If he’d hooked someone from behind in the offensive zone or taken a dive or something I’d be more inclined to place blame for that penalty.

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by Becca H on Feb 22, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

It has to be a penalty.

by Rob Parker on Feb 22, 2011 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

No. It doesn’t have to be a penalty. The League existed just fine without it being one for a pretty long time. It should be like an icing. The only reason they even made it one in the first place was to prevent guys from trying to alleviate pressure by flinging it over the glass. If you take away the one advantage they’d get by doing that – by not allowing them to change lines – it’s not an issue.

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by Becca H on Feb 22, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

A whistle is still better than continuing pinned in your zone. You can get a chance for a time out. You get to regroup. It would be much more rampant if it was treated as icing.

by Rob Parker on Feb 22, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

…I’m sorry, maybe I have selective amnesia and have blocked out the millions of times it happened but before it was a penalty I really don’t remember this being SUCH a problem.

Hell, even the reasoning I gave for why it was made a penalty wasn’t the real reason, they really added the penalty to speed up the game so they could fit more play in to the TV-friendly 2.5 hour time slot while still allowing them TV timeouts.

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by Becca H on Feb 22, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

The League existed just fine without it being one for a pretty long time.

Because the league existed for a long time without it being one is why it shouldn’t be a penalty? I’m not sure why anyone ever uses this reasoning for anything, but it is not isolated to this thread about the automatic delay of game penalty in hockey.

The list of things that were / have been done for a long time that were / should be changed is very, very long.

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by alisterio on Feb 22, 2011 1:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Usually I’d agree, but we’re not talking about allowing flying elbows to the head – sometimes things haven’t been done that are long overdue, and sometimes they haven’t been done because there’s no NEED.

This isn’t an issue of player safety (and it’s barely one of fan safety), it wasn’t hurting the game in some awful way, it didn’t lead to the decline in scoring or the increase in clutching and grabbing, it was an annoying thing players occasionally did that could have been approached and altered with a less drastic approach.

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by Becca H on Feb 22, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Obviously no one means to do it, some are just VASTLY more avoidable than others…and this one was definitely avoidable.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I dunno, Dave. I’ve shanked more than my share over the boards, or into the boards when I meant it to go over. Hard for me to fault guys when one gets away from them.

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by docciavelli on Feb 22, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

All the way across the ice? Under absolutely no pressure?

I can’t even begin to think of what he was trying to do with that puck.

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by D'ohboy on Feb 22, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

this

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Laser it to the far boards. The puck went on edge. You know how they’ll fly if you try to shoot one hard while it’s on edge.

by Rob Parker on Feb 22, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s what I thought he was doing as well. He’s just inside the blue line, and he half-panics, thinking, “gotta get this out with heat on it, cross ice where the breaking opposite winger would be.”

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by docciavelli on Feb 22, 2011 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Well he missed…badly.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, no doubt. And luckily, Pittsburgh has a career minor-leaguer on one of their PP points right now. If I knew that PP unit was on the other bench, I’d be careless with my clearings as well.

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by docciavelli on Feb 22, 2011 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m just saying, he definitely had control of the situation. That penalty didn’t need to happen.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but even if executed properly, that’s still a fucking idiotic choice of where to put that puck… A cross-ice saucer pass at his own blue line. Great idea, Sasha.

I blame Schultz

by D'ohboy on Feb 22, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

This. Said about 100 times better than I have over about 5-10 replies

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Did he follow through? I’ll be his stick was pretty close to the ice when he released it. There’s no way he didn’t lose control at some point in his motion.

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2011 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

There’s no way he didn’t lose control at some point in his motion.

Which…isn’t his fault in some way how?

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you going to blame someone for hitting a divot in the ice while trying to backcheck?

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2011 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s different than standing still with a pair of the sickest hands in the league only a step or two inside your zone with no real pressure and having more options than just the really hard cross ice breakout pass.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

No, the point is he doesn’t control every aspect of what’s going on. I’m betting the puck hit a divot or an ice shaving or anything that made it kick up on edge. He can’t be blamed for that.

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

He can be blamed for not making a far more simple play to get the puck out of the zone instead of a cross ice pass. And when you miss by that much it’s hard for me to be convinced it was all because the puck was on edge or there was a divot.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not convinced it was a bad play. It maybe isn’t what we wanted him to do with it, but getting it to a teammate with no Pens in the way is not in itself a bad play.

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

It was just a really bad miss on a play that wasn’t his only option. We’re really spending a ton of time just discussing semantics and a variety of viewpoints hahaha

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I suppose in a 1-0 game, that’s the sort of thing that gets picked apart. I mean, on my side of the aisle, we’re still in awe of the Neal/Niskanen for Goligoski deal. Can’t really bitch about losing 1-0 with that lineup, so I’m leaving well enough alone.

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by docciavelli on Feb 22, 2011 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously what did Shero do to pull that deal off?

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously, I’ve been out of the loop all weekend and saw that trade tonight and thought the Pens fleeced Dallas.

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d reference the Whitney for Kunitz/Tangradi deal here. A young, slightly over-hyped D with a ton of offensive upside but a scrambled head that leads to turnovers. Sell while the sellin’s good.

Goligoski’s got talent, no denying it. But there’s a reason we took to calling him “Goalagainstki” even with his gaudy +/-. The guy just make you yank your hair out with his careless mistakes with the puck. Bad breakout passes, giveaways on the PP point, etc.

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by docciavelli on Feb 22, 2011 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

By the way, I hear St. Louis also sold an over-hyped young D for a good young forward and a decent young D in return. It’s the in thing, like skinny jeans, I suppose.

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by docciavelli on Feb 22, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

GoGo ≠ EJ. Not even close.

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by D'ohboy on Feb 22, 2011 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m surprised St. Lou gave up so quick, personally.

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, I agree that Johnson’s better than Gogo. But while Neal may be close to Stewart, Shattenkirk is an upgrade over Niskanen.

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by docciavelli on Feb 22, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed, I just don’t think you even needed Niskanen as part of the deal to be the winners of the trade. Getting 2 players for Gogo seems like massive overpayment.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

It could turn out to be a win for both teams if Gogo develops. But given how strong you guys have been on D this year with the additions and Letang playing so well, getting Neal fills a big hole…and you got Nisk as well

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

But are you a world class athlete (one of the most skilled ones at that), with all the time in the world?

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 22, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

This is a rhetorical, question, right SME? I mean, you’ve seen my puck skills. =)

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by docciavelli on Feb 22, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think I’d give Semin a slight edge.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 22, 2011 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Duly noted.

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by docciavelli on Feb 22, 2011 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

What D’ohboy said.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think so. It was a pass he was trying to get off quick and hard that fucked up. He wasn’t aiming for the top 1/4 inch of glass trying to clear the zone and missing.

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

If he was aiming for that spot and just missed it by that little it would be forgivable. The fact he was trying to keep it on the ice makes it worse.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

If he was aiming for that spot and just missed it by that little it would be forgivable.

No, because it’s a stupid play worth of Bad Sasha. The fact that the puck somehow kicked up onto its edge is not his fault.

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2011 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

The text you quoted is in the sense that we’re discussing the execution as a “physical error that happens often”…missing by an inch is commonplace even for someone of Semin’s skill.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

But he shouldn’t be trying for the play, anyway, which is what everyone else is arguing about Semin making a bad play. It wasn’t a bad play, it was unlucky. Aiming for the top of the glass is stupid because the chances of hitting it are so slim.

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not arguing that aiming for the top of the glass is stupid, you said he wasn’t aiming for the top of the glass and missing and I was just pointing out that if that was the target and he only missed by a little bit that would be more explainable as a physical error that happens a lot.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Our thread is confused.

I’m arguing that he encountered an uncontrollable variable that sent his puck over the glass, which means that I think he shouldn’t be blamed for making a bad play.

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

And I’m arguing that those uncontrollable variables happen, but given his situation with no pressure just inside his blueline, his skill level, and the fact he tossed it over the near boards from the far one…he gets the blame for pulling it off somehow :)

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:30 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

We’re getting nowhere fast, as you mentioned above :-P.

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2011 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha, agree to disagree then. It just feels like an comparable NFL moment would be a QB with options to his RB in the flat to catch and run for the 1st, a guy open over the middle for 18 yards, but decides to bomb it deep to his deep threat who has a step but the ball is wet so it slips out of his hands and gets picked off.

He could have gone another way ;)

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it’s more comparable to the QB happening to hit his center in the head with his pass, and then getting picked. Complete bad luck.

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I feel like you root for the Lions because you’re very forgiving. Or a Ravens fan who still thinks Joe Flacco is a playoff QB because of the mirage of his decent record his defense has given him.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ve been in Semin’s skates on a far lesser stage, but it feels the same. That’s all.

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

And I do root for the Caps, after all.

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Btw, a QB hitting his center in the head with a pass…absolutely their fault. I don’t even think Ryan Leaf pulled that one off.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought we were discussing the various quantum mechanisms that affect string theory.

Boy was I way off here.

You do know that the puck did go every direction that the clearing attempt could have gone…in one quantum reality or another, right?

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by docciavelli on Feb 22, 2011 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

So, you’re saying that everyone’s right? Well, that just won’t do!

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2011 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Because that penalty was almost as crazy as Cooke’s DoG in the last one from 150 feet away. It was absolutely strange, and it’s obvious that the puck had to have kicked up as soon as he started to shoot it.

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

And you can still blame Cooke for that one.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Um, no. It’s a penalty, sure, but the chances of that happening are so remote that when it does, it’s flabbergasting to everyone involved.

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2011 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Um yes…everything you said is 100% true, but you can still blame Cooke for launching it that far. He wasn’t swatting a puck out of midair or trying to outrace someone to it to bat it out of the zone. He just launched it.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

He was trying to ice it, IIRC, at which point you are shooting it hard, but when was the last time we saw someone do that? No, it’s too weird for me to pin blame.

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Definitely weird and kind of impressive…but plenty of room to ice it past the D without launching it the extra 100+ feet.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

He didn’t have a great night but he did a great job on Staal’s breakaway. He hustled back into the play, used his stick effectively to distract Staal and didn’t draw a penalty.

by b.orr4 on Feb 22, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

He also battled for the puck along the boards. There was a time when that wouldn’t ever happen. He wasn’t Good Sasha but he wasn’t all Bad Sasha either. Maybe his weird penalty sending the puck out replaced his usual inexplicable fall down for no apparent reason in this game.

by vtcapsfan99 on Feb 22, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

He got himself bunched up along the boards unnecessarily once or twice, but was moving pretty well. He looked engaged to me, overall.

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ve long ago accepted that Semin is a lightning rod for criticism in certain quarters and he will be until he’s no longer a Cap. And then someone else will take his place. The fact that he’s become the focal point of discussion after a 1-0 win over a hated rival is proof positive that opinions will never change on him unless he wins the Conn Smythe and the Caps win the Cup.

by b.orr4 on Feb 22, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I think there is a happy medium. He wasn’t winning the Conn Smythe in October and November and people were pretty happy with his play then.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Certain people. Others were just silent.

by b.orr4 on Feb 22, 2011 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

If the playoffs had been in October, he definitely would’ve won the Conn Smythe.

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2011 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Neuvy would have something to say about that if we’re just discussing October.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

No, because the playoffs are two months, not one month. He would have had an amazing first two rounds and then disappeared for the rest of the playoffs.

by Rob Parker on Feb 22, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Well, October and November were pretty good to him. It was Thanksgiving when he (everyone) fell off a cliff, IIRC.

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Okay, let’s theorize that the first month of the playoffs was November, and the second month was October.

Why, I don’t know, it all seems awful silly to me.

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by Ovechwin on Feb 22, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m totally leaving this one alone.

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by docciavelli on Feb 22, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Wise move, Pens fan :P

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by Becca H on Feb 22, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

(And did I see that you are on Twitter? Is no corner of this world safe??)

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by Becca H on Feb 22, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I dare you to go back through the game on DVR and find a single one-on-one puck battle along the boards that Semin won.

I dare you.

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by D'ohboy on Feb 22, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Did I say he won the battles? He attempted them at least. In the past he wouldn’t even attempt to battle for the puck at times.

by vtcapsfan99 on Feb 22, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

He attempted to do the important things well, but he failed. You can find these types of players at golf courses everywhere come late April.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought he played well. I wish he could find an pass during his Nylandering.

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by hotdog88gt on Feb 22, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Credit the Penguins again (sorry!)

Don’t be sorry. The VS guys were doing it all night long until Carlson’s left check on Talbot.

BTW, kudos to the zebra for getting that call R-I-G-H-T.

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by hotdog88gt on Feb 21, 2011 11:54 PM EST reply actions  

Defense is good, but. . .

There’s no way that whack-a-puck strategy works against a team that can actually possess the puck and dent the twine. Against the WBS Penguins, it’s fine, but against any other playoff team, willfully giving away possession time after time is going to come back to bite you in the ass.

The Caps’ top two lines need to take a hint from the bottom two lines and start to cycle a bit more often. Keep the puck 200ft away from your keeper – don’t just gain the zone, fire a shot into someone’s shinpads and retreat to center ice. Also, dumping the puck to the neutral zone over and over again isn’t usually a winning strategy. Get the puck deep, work the cycle.

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by D'ohboy on Feb 22, 2011 12:05 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I see the top line cycle every now and then, but it’s far too rare. And shockingly enough, when they do it they get good pressure which leads to some decent chances. Weird how that works out.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 22, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

So whatever happened to Tom Poti?!

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by Ovechwin on Feb 22, 2011 12:07 AM EST reply actions  

Hey, at least he’s not Mark Eaton.

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by docciavelli on Feb 22, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

You just reminded me of something – the Caps and the Bears have now both defeated the WBS Penguins 1-0 in their CONSOL Energy Center debuts.

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by EmilyB on Feb 22, 2011 12:08 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

I thought it looked bad for CONSOL Energy that they had the problems with turning the lights on before the 2nd. Seemed ironic.

by brooksengr on Feb 22, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Delicious irony.

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by Ovechwin on Feb 22, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

They were doing their part to prevent global warming.

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by docciavelli on Feb 22, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

The Pens not tying it up and taking it to overtime helped more. Congrats to them for fighting global warming.

by brooksengr on Feb 22, 2011 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

…did we lose tonight?

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by Becca H on Feb 22, 2011 12:21 AM EST reply actions  

I mean….I thought the Caps played a gritty, scrappy road game against a tough opponent who, even though injury-depleted is playing desperate hockey, has been defensively tight and has a lot of guys playing for them who a) don’t want to go back to WBS and b) are AHLers so they always bring a little extra oomph.

The Caps got a PPG against the League’s best PK.

Hell, they got a PPG PERIOD.

Ovi scored.

Brads laid out Cooke and then won a fight.

Neuvy stood on his head and outdueled his PIttsburgh counterpart who ALSO stood on his head.

Was it perfect? No. Was it still a hard-working effort worthy of some praise, two points and a bit of weagle-shaped confetti? I think so, yes. This team just went 3-2 on a road trip everyone thought would end up 0-5, and they beat Pittsburgh.

CELEBRATE AND BE HAPPY FOR ONE DAMN NIGHT. Then we can go back to ripping them apart tomorrow.

…and on that note, bedtime.

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by Becca H on Feb 22, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions   3 recs

It’s far more fun to instigate and bring on the same “it wasn’t a good win” commentary from October/November ;)

Just kidding. All agreed Becca, I would like the offense as a whole to start clicking more though. One crazy night in Anaheim isn’t enough for me.

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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha

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by Ovechwin on Feb 22, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Also have you seen the celebrity jeopardy with Tom Hanks? Hilarious.

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by Ovechwin on Feb 22, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Wait, I have to throw this great BB quote out there before I retire because it cracked me up:

“I kind of think that at the end of the series if we happen to play them there might only be 12 guys on each team ready to play the next series. We’ll wait to see how it goes.”

If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.

by Becca H on Feb 22, 2011 12:37 AM EST reply actions  

;-)

’Night Becca!

You perhaps knew me better as "Your Nation's Capital." Same great commentary, now with 100% more transparency!

by EmilyB on Feb 22, 2011 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I will resist the urge to make a Crosby/Steckel or Ovechkin/Cooke reference here.

When you win 13 titles, you can wear the title belt. Until then, Aaron Rodgers will continue to do so.

by docciavelli on Feb 22, 2011 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

So sad the best hit Dave Steckel ever threw was the one he had no idea he was doing. If only same could be said of Cooke ;)

Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.

by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Here’s why the Caps are staying in the PGH tonite:

@DustinJohns
  
@TPBadam @TPBderek Any idea what the holdup on the Fort Pitt bridge is? 376 W. It’s not moving. And hasn’t for 2 hours.

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by EmilyB on Feb 22, 2011 12:49 AM EST reply actions  

Niskanen’s confidence shot in DAL. Needed change of scenery and PIT wouldn’t do deal without a dman included. $$$ some factor for DAL.

I would have done it regardless of whether he was included. Extremely young 30 goal winger for Crosby versus an overrated D-man at a position of depth. Why wouldn’t PIT still have wanted to do that?

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by jaytown99 on Feb 22, 2011 12:51 AM EST reply actions  

Because if you can convinced them to throw in another player and they’re willing, why not? haha

Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.

by Davethecapsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I personally, am going to be happy for one night AND bitch about the team. Sorry, having gone to my first game in 1981 and followed them from all over the world (well, Arizona, CA and France) I find it much harder to be optimistic about this team.

A 3-2 road trip has done very little to fix the problems that this team has. They were outclassed by both PHX and SJC, and despite the VS guys telling everyone the Caps have really turned a corner and know how to win the close games now, I’m not buying it.

Woohoo!!! We beat Pittsburgh and Matt Cooke got stapled to the ice a couple of times. I’m not being facetious. That is awesome and they are certainly bound for the playoffs but until they do well there, it’s all for naught. And as of right now, no matter how good your D is, scoring 2 goals a game is not going to get you out of the first round.

I can resist anything, except temptation.

by alisterio on Feb 22, 2011 2:19 AM EST reply actions  

Observations from the Sofa

Got to watch the game last night… loved it.

1) Great shot by Ovechkin to score the games only goal. It looked like Fleury didn’t move until after the puck was past him. That said, that power play one timer set up where Talbot poked the puck away looked pretty damn embarassing. Green probably would have put more starch on the pass, and Ovie would have gotten it away.

2) Carlson… great game, but a couple of plays where I was saying “he’s still a rookie, he’s still a rookie”. On two occasions, at least, in the third, he had a chance to make a clearing play to get the puck out of the defensive zone and instead tried to make a different play. When protecting the lead, the blue line is your best friend and you keep it happy by giving it pucks. Thankfully the blue line isn’t so good at catching them.

3) Matt Bradley… He may have been the best Capital out there not named Neuvirth or Ovechkin. Blocking shots, hitting, and oh yeah, the Matt Cooke thing. Even non-Caps media were discussing his hit on Cooke. That was a win-win situation. He nailed Cooke and then got Staal off the ice with himself for 2 minutes. Nicely done. Then winning a fight against a minor leaguer… well, I’m ok with that in Brads’ case, although DJ King was dressed tonight, and that might have been a better spot for him.

4) I wonder if Dan Bylsma is shaking today? If not he should be. Think about this: right now his team is matched up to play the Caps in the post season, and since Malkin’s goal in the Winter Classic, the Caps have outscored his team 7-0 in 157 minutes of play. If that doesn’t worry him, it should, since the guy who has scored the only goal against the Caps for the Pens is not going to be playing until training camp this summer…if then.

So next up are three games against the two teams that call New York home and two are at the Phone Booth. I can see the Caps getting 6 points, but I can also see them going into a let-down and dropping one of the games. The Rangers look to be the tougher opponent, but the Isles have been playing like the games mean something (they do, they’re playing for their jobs…)

Of course the trading deadline is coming up too…the Caps need a center (esp. if the news about Backstrom is what it is…) Here’s hoping George does a little shopping…

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--- D'ohboy

by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 22, 2011 10:23 AM EST reply actions  

4) And the goalie “who isn’t very good” has shut them out twice.

Don’t make fun of my obsession over ketchup dispensers ever again! ;) Ted Leonsis

by miseenjeu on Feb 22, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

4) And the goalie “who isn’t very good” has shut them out twice.

Don’t make fun of my obsession over ketchup dispensers ever again! ;) Ted Leonsis

by miseenjeu on Feb 22, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Bradley Hit

Am I the only caps fan on earth to think that the Bradley hit wasn’t clean? At no point did he stop striding to “glide” before hitting Cooke. 2 minutes for charging was the right call, as was the 2 minutes on Staal. Just wondering if anyone else saw it my (and the refs’) way.

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by MikeyGreen on Feb 22, 2011 10:30 AM EST reply actions  

if that's not a clean hit

There will be 50 penalties called a game

by DonnieKnutts on Feb 22, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

My view was charging was a reasonable call, especially watching the first replay, but I didn’t watch any additional replays.

I agree that Stall’s actions were ridiculous as a response to that hit and the correct penalty was called on him.

by sk84fun_dc on Feb 22, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Apparently the referees didn’t think it was a clean hit and assessed a 2 minute minor for charging to Bradley.

Personally, I didn’t think it was charging, but the refs don’t have a bias, while I do…

Washington Capitals 2009-10 = Quebec Nordiques 1994-95
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 22, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Let me edit that

There should be scare quotes around “honor”, assuming the word even belongs in the same paragraph with “Matt Cooke.”

by marconi64 on Feb 22, 2011 10:35 AM EST reply actions  

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