Monday Caps Clips: Perreault Big in Buffalo; Caps @ Pens Game Day
by J.P. on Feb 21, 2011 6:45 AM EST
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Your savory breakfast links:
- Recaps and other assorted musings on yesterday's win from us, Vogs, NHL.com, DCEx (McNally), WaPo (Carrera: blog, blog, gamer), CSN Washington (Hughes), Caps365 video (Boudreau, players), Peerless, Frankovic, RMNB, SB Nation DC, Puckhead, Capitals News Network, Capitals Outsider, KOL, RtR, WC2010, CRtC, Caps Daily and the CAPS lock.
- Previews of tonight's party with the Pens from Vogs, NHL.com (Compton), SB Nation DC, Peerless, WC2010 and Barry Melrose Rocks, and be sure to check out our SB Nation partner PensBurgh for more coverage from the other side of tonight's match-up.
- The Bears rock the pink (and get rocked). [SHoE]
- Dmitri Orlov has arrived in Hershey (and he can talk!). [RMNB]
- Garrett Mitchell isn't a numbers guy. [Leader-Post]
- It's pretty great to see Olie Kolzig out on the ice in full gear (and only slightly less awesome given that the sweater is black and gold). [plixi, Tri-City Herald (h/t on both to @sk84fun_dc]
- Speaking of Caps alums, Andrei Nikolishin has stories. [Alex Ovetjkin]
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Per the Post-Gazette, Jeffrey or Kunitz might return tonight, and Staal seemed to (luckily) avoid any damage from the shot he took up high yesterday.
"This leg...is stanky."
And for everyone expecting Johnson in goal, Rossi from the Trib thinks Fleury’s getting back-to-back starts.
Fleury, who made 29 saves, acknowledged his likely start tonight against the Capitals will be one of the biggest this season
"It's always good to have vikings."
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Shelly Anderson is really off his game today:
Speaking of the Pens race with the Flyers for the Atlantic Division lead:
the Penguins are six points back, although they have a game in hand.I guess game in hand now means that you have played one more game than the other team.
On their race with the Caps for the fourth seed in the East:
That means fourth place might be as good as it gets for the Penguins in the Eastern Conference. One spot and just two points behind them are the CapitalsDid you guys know you are only two points back? I guess the Caps can afford to take it a little bit easy tonight.
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Feb 21, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
I would not be surprised to see the Pens hang on to fourth place. Their D and forecheck are both very good, and that’s going to be enough to win them their share of games.
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Caps-Pens first round
seems destined to happen
by DonnieKnutts on Feb 21, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
If Carolina can catch the Rangers, the first round matchups could be:
PHL/NYR
TBL/CAR
BOS/MTL
PIT/WSH
quite a first round
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by ThePeerless on Feb 21, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
That would be pretty epic.
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Talk about grudge matches.
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Feb 21, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
sigh
This means I might have to spring for the Center Ice deal. I’m sure the promotion is over by then.
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Better than Center Ice: the Roku plus Gamecenter Live. This way, you actually get the games in 720p HD (if you buy the $60 Roku).
Roku is a device so you can stream internet feeds to your TV. Gamecenter Live is an awesome program, except for when games are blacked out…
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can’t you just hook your laptop up to the TV with a HDMI cord? I do that with Netflix streaming and I honestly can’t tell that I’m not watching the show on cable.
by vtcapsfan99 on Feb 21, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
’Cept Caps/Pens is practically its own division now.
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That’d be a sick first round, but I like the caps’ chances to win the division.
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just for kicks, here are the current West match-ups if play ended today:
VAN/DAL
DET/MIN (in which I hope Theo continues to work his mojo and continues to pull out improbable wins against Detroit)
PHX/CGY
SJS/NSH
a certain 2010 Stanley Cup Champion is sitting not-so-pretty in 11th (tied with DAL and MIN for 68 points, along with LAK and ANA. DAL an MIN have a game in hand on the other 68 point teams)
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Vancouver fans would love that. The Nucks have dominated the Stars so far this year. I don’t know if you read the other day the factoid I posted RB but in VAN’s 5 goal win vs DAL on Saturday, all 5 Nucks goals were by redheads.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
Oh please no. Not again.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
I wasn’t sure. I thought maybe, but I’ve never seen or heard him/her so whatever. Still no excuse for apparently not being able to read the standings or knowing what it means to have a game in hand.
You do realize there are guys named Shelly, right?
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Feb 21, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
haha, no, it was an honest mistake.
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Feb 21, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
On Staal:
“He gave me the thumb’s up when I came into the [locker] room,” Bylsma said. “I’m assuming that means he’s good.”
Who says the Pens don’t have rigorous testing procedures for players who have taken hits to the head?
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Feb 21, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Coach has a keen eye, for sure.
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As much as I have maligned the Pens’ medical staff, this one’s not on them. That was in the post-game scrum, and it’s not like Bylsma gets the final say on that.
Oh, maybe he does. Never mind.
"It's always good to have vikings."
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
The optics of a statement like that are wrong, at the very least.
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It is to the Pens advantage to keep who can and can’t play as ambiguous as possible before the game. Make the opponent ponder who might be in or out. Does Wilkes-Barre have any more centers?
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 21, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Slightly related, from Glen McGregor (via Bruce Arthur) Tim Horton’s death 37 years ago today reveals some information on what he was taking in order to remain competitive at his age. (NSFW medical detail)
"This leg...is stanky."
by Bald Pollack on Feb 21, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Words, not pics to clarify.
"This leg...is stanky."
by Bald Pollack on Feb 21, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
What a shame. The autopsy showed he was in pretty good shape, for a guy who was into doughnuts.
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by EmilyB on Feb 21, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Congrats, Mathieu!
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Yet not enough to get the green arrow here at the Rink. Harsh. For all the h8, he seems to have a habit of showing up in the right places at just the right times… if not consistently. It’s allright, though – if MP85 was going to have a good day, it should have been yesterday. At least the scouts got a good look.
Double standards for folks like Matty, Beagle and A. Gordon are a fact of life in this league. I’m glad Sasha Minor is healthy, and bully on him for the hat trick and the win in Anaheim, but watching that guy on the ice it seems to me unless he’s sniping, he’s not really interested in doing much else. He’s lazy, and if he had a third of MP85’s get up and go gas, our year might look a wee bit different. Then again, there’s a lot of folks on the top two lines this could be said of…
Which reminds me… a goal, an assist and a offensive zone penalty (I think… help me out here folks..) for MP yesterday right? Isn’t that what we like to call a ‘Alex Semin Hat Trick’? ; ) Nevermind that shot goes in regardless of MarJo touching it, but eh.
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by TheMattyHatty on Feb 21, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Yet not enough to get the green arrow here at the Rink. Harsh.
Huh. Would have thought his -4 in the previous 3 games during the week would speak for itself, but oh well.
"This leg...is stanky."
by Bald Pollack on Feb 21, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
He had a couple of poor turnovers on the boards and at the opposing blueline as well in those games. Even a couple yesterday but 1+1 helps forgive it yesterday at least.
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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
After tonight’s game, the schedule turns decidedly soft for the next nine games. The eight teams they play have a combined record of 216-200-56, only three are currently in a playoff position and four of them are in last place in their division. By comparison, Tampa Bay’s opponents in the same nine game stretch have a combined record of 232-189-47, five of them are currently in the playoffs and only one is in last place. Plus they play two games against the Devils, the hottest team in hockey. If the Caps are going to make a push for the division, this is the time to do it.
Two of the Caps’ games are against the Islanders, who have been playing some pretty inspired hockey themselves.
"It's always good to have vikings."
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
True, but the Islanders are very young team that’s playing way above their heads right now. You’ve got to love their effort, but they have no shot at the playoffs and sooner or later, they’ll come back to earth. The Devils, on the other hand, are a veteran team that’s finally playing to their ability. And, in their mind, they still have a shot at the playoffs. I’ll take the Isles and give Tampa Bay the Devils any day.
Unfortunately this is anything but encouraging. This team has a nasty habit of not showing up for the “soft” games.
Less drama, more hockey
by SeattleCapsFan on Feb 21, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
I didn’t screencap it, much to my sorrow now, but NHL.com had a headliner story about Tyler Myers yesterday. They illustratred it with a pic of him defending against … Marty St. Louis.
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If Nathan Gerbe rode on Mathieu Perresult’s shoulders, they’d come up to Tyler Myers’ shoulder pads.
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by ThePeerless on Feb 21, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
probably a different pic..
..but to illustrate what that looks like:
by Natty Bumppo on Feb 21, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
That’s about one inch from a Rule 48 violation.
"It's always good to have vikings."
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Without context of the entire play, If they called that a Rule 48 violation, I’d be pissed were I a Sabres fan.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 21, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
Snark meter. Per below, it’s might be Steckel/Crosby or it might not even be contact.
"It's always good to have vikings."
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
The kids are alright..
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s/t to Capsgirl on twitter
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by bagace on Feb 21, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That looks like a scene from Lord of the Rings On Ice.
by b.orr4 on Feb 21, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
I think I found the reason the Bears had such a bad game last night. Their pink unis were really distracting.
See here: http://photos.pennlive.com/patriot-news/2011/02/hershey_bears_vs_charlotte_che_5.html
And here: http://capsinpictures.blogspot.com/2011/02/hershey-bears-vs-charlotte-checkers-20.html
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Not a good showing for my first Bears game…It was their 3rd game in 3 days but they were an absolute no show.
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Johann Kroll looks like the undertaker in The Right Stuff
Lawrence Nycholat screams, “please…by me!”
Dmitry Kugryshev…auditioning for Reservoir Bears
Boyd Kane…half in the shower when he realized, “S**T! I gotta sell a jersey!”
Brian Willsie…“This jersey is…eeeeee-ville”
Maxime Lacroix…“No, the jersey does NOT say ‘Bieber’…its just my haircut”
Sheldon Souray…“’ere eez your zhersey, monsieur…I weel be back wiss ze ’elmet and ze skates wiss your entree”
Zach Miskovic…don’t have a quote here, but he sort of resembles that “Dinner: Impossible” guy on Food Network
Francois Bouchard…“Perreault is getting a Star of the Night in DC, and I’m still here wearing pink jerseys…”
Dylan Yeo…“that’s right, you should see what this jersey is hiding…wanna bid on that?”
Kyle Greentree…“If Lost, Please Return to Hershey Bears”
Braden Holtby…“Please don’t anyone bid on this…I’m not wearing pants!”
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by ThePeerless on Feb 21, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Andrew Joudrey is Brooks Laich Lite.
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what in the hell is Souray wearing in his auction photo???
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The second link in Emily’s comment above. Suprised Holtby wasn’t the top seller. even though he only was $50 behind. But Beagle’s a good one too.
by hockeyman33 on Feb 21, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
As usual, Caps in Pictures comes through with some awesome pictures of Hershey Bears.
Rocking the Red for teams on the banks of the Potomac and at the Gateway Arch and Singing the Blues about Hockey.
I was surprised Andrew Gordon didn’t go for higher since they love him so much in Hershey. But true on Beagle being a good one.
Rocking the Red for teams on the banks of the Potomac and at the Gateway Arch and Singing the Blues about Hockey.
These jerseys are one and done; there is always a surprise or two during the auction if someone really wants a certain player, but it’s not surprising to me that Gordon would be one of the highest, but not as high since he didn’t actually play in the game.
I tried to convince my dad to buy me one :p 800 is a bit steep though.
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I know, but 800 is a lot for a hockey jersey. I’m not made of money! haha
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Hell no
Nice cardigan, bro.
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They shook handsat the Heritage Classic huh? How ’bout that.
"This leg...is stanky."
by Bald Pollack on Feb 21, 2011 9:23 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
In retrospect, it’s clear Crosby wasn’t in his right mind when he decided to skip the handshake at the WC.
by b.orr4 on Feb 21, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Did he get a concussion in Game 7 of the ’09 Finals, too, then?
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by J.P. on Feb 21, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Feb 21, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Just a joke (and not a baseless one).
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I know. I just like posting pictures that I happen to be in. ;-)
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Feb 21, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Although
I’d say those three Caps already on their way to the dressing room also forgot about the longstanding handshake tradition.
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Feb 21, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
So instead of giving Joe B. the opportunity to call an NBC regional game, we get the Flyer’s play by play guy instead. Or in other words, Comcast-owned network uses play-by-play guy for Comcast-owned team.
Can’t wait for the new NHL TV contract, when Comcast/NBC/Versus shows us non-stop games of “America’s Team – Your Philadelphia Flyers.”
"I remembered when he said that and I kind of looked at him during the warm up and told myself that I got to shut these guys out tonight." - Michal Neuvirth, 02.06.11.
I hear next year the flyers will be 82-0 lead by killer beards.
Occasionally wrong, never uncertain.
it’s no where near as awesome as the Ovechtrick ad.
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Right now, the way the Flyboys are playing, they should get the TV coverage…. if other teams want to get on TV more, they should do what the Flyers are doing now: Win.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 21, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve nothing against this year’s Flyers team and their record. My beef has always been with the NHL giving the US television rights contract to a corporation that has primary ownership in one of the 30 teams. In any other business that would reek of conflict of interest.
"I remembered when he said that and I kind of looked at him during the warm up and told myself that I got to shut these guys out tonight." - Michal Neuvirth, 02.06.11.
Meh. Media corporations have (and continue to) own large percentages of sports teams. CBS owned the Yankees for a couple of decades. WGN (which is a national network of sorts) owned the Cubs for many, many years. Cablevision owns the Rangers and Knicks.
And I hate to defend the NHL, but they didn’t give it to Versus. They sold it to Versus — who were the only cable network who was willing to pay money for it.
Any word on Jordan Staal for tonight’s game? I heard he got hit in the head/neck by a shot yesterday.
by JimCareyFanClub on Feb 21, 2011 9:47 AM EST reply actions
He gave Coach a “thumbs up” in the locker room post-game. So clearly he’s fine.
Per b.orr4’s link at the top of this thread ^.
Also, the Pens were apparently KILLED in the faceoff circle yesterday.
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by JimCareyFanClub on Feb 21, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
And I really wanted it to be b.orr4’s link. But if you try sometime…
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So did Ovi. Watching the highlights, MP must have been fearing for his life the way Ovi was leaping over to give him that hug.
"I remembered when he said that and I kind of looked at him during the warm up and told myself that I got to shut these guys out tonight." - Michal Neuvirth, 02.06.11.
Yeah, but it was his bad thumb…
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by ThePeerless on Feb 21, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
Any word on Jordan Staal for tonight’s game? I heard he got hit in the head/neck by a shot yesterday.
Pittsburgh radio has said Staal feels fine, Letang’s slapper caught him on the side of the jaw. Might have a slight fracture but it seems like he has escaped major injury.
Very similar to Green’s situation, where he was able to turn his head just at the last second.
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by Hooks Orpik on Feb 21, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
Well let’s hope that doesn’t happen (and hope Greenlife can come back soonest).
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
by Hooks Orpik on Feb 21, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again. Ain’t nobody paying money to see the epic duel between Matt Bradley and Craig Adams.
by Rob Parker on Feb 21, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey, at least your guy isn’t a “top 6” player tonight.
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
by Hooks Orpik on Feb 21, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Depends on what they are dueling with…. I mean, I’d pay money to watch them duel with lightsabers….
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 21, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Fully expecting Matt Hendricks to give Cooke a hug and a kiss in response to the knee on knee last game.
Steckel answers the bell on an accident, lets see what Cooke can do…something tells me he runs and hides.
It’s really a shame that AO has missed all those games since the last meeting.
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Feb 21, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
That’s not really the point is it? Cooke tried to end his career, or at the very least put him out for the season. Steckel never saw what hit him.
Frankly, I’m not really expecting much tonight. Except a win.
"It's always good to have vikings."
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Steckel answers the bell on an accident, lets see what Cooke can do…something tells me he runs and hides.
Steckel didn’t go with Rupp or any Penguin who actually could fight.
(For the record, I don’t have a problem with what Steckel did, but let’s not act like he stood up to any challenge.)
Cooke has taken his medicine from tougher opponents than anyone the Caps will dress tonight (when he obliged Thornton the game after the Savard hit). But I believe he feels his hit on Ovechkin wasn’t intentional, I don’t think he’s going to feel he necessarily owes the Caps a fight….Plus, we all know Matt Cooke, if not fighting might give him an advantage by getting into the Caps’ heads, he’ll probably take it.
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
by Hooks Orpik on Feb 21, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think anyone knows what he feels, only what he’s said. Not the same thing.
But… meh.
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"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Interesting comment considering above you laid out exactly what (you thought) Cooke’s intentions were.
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Feb 21, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, sure, I didn’t ask him myself or anything, but I’ve watched Cooke closely for a while and (unfortunately) have seen a lot of questionable hits and the aftermath go down.
It seems like when he knows he crossed the line he’ll fight, like the Savard hit or the Anisimov hit last year. But other times when his comments absolve himself of wrong-doing (like in this case) he doesn’t answer the bell.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Cooke obliged Bradley or Hendricks, but at the same time it’s more of my expectation for him to brush it off in this scenario.
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
by Hooks Orpik on Feb 21, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Generally speaking, I think it’s of questionable value to go after him at all. Now whether anyone gets it in their head to be like the Islanders and go after someone else (who’s left worth going after?), I hope that doesn’t happen.
"It's always good to have vikings."
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
How many bells had to ring before Cooke answered for Anisimov? He turned down two fights before he finally went. Don’t try to act like the guy has any honor.
by Rob Parker on Feb 21, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I think we all know what Matt Cooke feels – it is a combination of nothing, malice, and full from all the souls of unbaptized babies that he’s eaten.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 21, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
he slakes his thirst on the blood of puppies
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by ThePeerless on Feb 21, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
To summarize
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Feb 21, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
inglorious douche bag
At least he plays on a team full of em…
Stecks answered the bell given an appropriate opponent. I don’t have a problem with Rupp asking Stecks to dance, so long as he takes “no” for an answer, which he did.
I don’t expect King to go after Cooke, which would be a mismatch. However, Cooke was challenged by Brads (an appropriate match up) when he came out of the box after the Ovi hit and he declined.
At a minimum, Cooke’s hit on Ovi was no more intentional than Stecks on Crosby, and he was held to account for it despite no record of reckless behaviour (look at how many PIMs he has!). I expect Hendy or Brads to come a callin’ early and I expect that Cooke will oblige. If he doesn’t, he’s a bigger weasel than some may have suspected.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Feb 21, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
If that’s the case, then Cooke better hope the game is a close one… if it gets to be like 5-1 one way or the other, someone (Hendricks?) may go at him…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 21, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
@Hooks_Orpik
In15 games from 08/09 – 09/10 Alex Ovechkin scored 30 points vs Pens (19g, 11a). This year 0 points in 3 games. Thank you, Zbynek Michalek.
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So how do they explain giving up 5 of 6 points to the Caps with Ovie staying off the score sheet? Thank You, Brooks Orpik
Alex did have a goal in the Winter Classic but it was waved off. I won’t disagree that Michalek has been pretty effective against AO so far this year, but Ovi’s been playing a lot better the last two weeks.
Plus we still have the Knuble Kannon.
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Who hasn’t been effective against AO this year? Even that no-name in FLA looks great against him.
The guy most responsible for shutting down AO this year is AO. It’s hilarious to me when fans all of a sudden think their D is some shutdown stud because AO isn’t lighting it up against them. He isn’t lighting it up against anyone.
Disagree. AO’s bullshit standard move just happened to work a couple times against western conference defenders who don’t see him often enough to be prepared for it.
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I wouldn’t get too cocky, Hooks. There are a lot of mediocre defenseman who can make that claim this season. More to the point, lets see how he fares tonight against the “old” Ovechkin.
I’m not being cocky, just pointing out before this season, Ovechkin had points in 14 of the last 15 games versus Pittsburgh.
-9 multi-efforts
-19 goals in 15 games.
If anything, that just shows how mind-bogglingly good he’s been. So to see him held off the score sheet is impressive, he’s killed the Pens.
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by Hooks Orpik on Feb 21, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I was half-joking, but the point I was making is that holding Ovechkin pointless is hardly a big achievement this season. Out of the Caps 60 games, Ovi has been pointless in 20 of them. Atlanta has held him without a point in three games and there isn’t a defenseman on that team that you’d categorize as a defensive stud. Buffalo, Tampa Bay and Ottawa have held him pointless in two games and the same applies to their defensive corp. In the past, keeping Ovechkin off the board was noteworthy. Not this year. So to point to Michalek as performing a Hal Gillish-type of feat on Ovechkin is a bit of an exaggeration in my book.
Ovechkin had a 14 game point streak against the Pens coming into this season. He has zero in 3 this year.
That’s mainly what I was pointing out.
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by Hooks Orpik on Feb 21, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
However, the reference to Michalek makes it sound like there’s some special connection to production being down while playing against the Pens.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 21, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly. AO had lots of incredible point stats coming into this year (like over a point per game by a lot). He’s not living up to any of them. It’s not because every team all of a sudden got a shutdown D that can handle AO.
Maybe it’s because teams learned how to better defend him? With increased backside pressure from back-checkers and a willingness to take away his gap (something opponents were scared to do earlier), the book on how to defend Ovechkin is out.
It doesn’t work every time, because he’s really good, but I think a lot of Ovechkin’s decrease is in how they’re playing him, and his subsequent lack of adjustment. Montreal sort of put the book out on how to limit him as best as possible, and a lot of teams have taken a page out of that book this year, from my eyes.
And, to me, it is meaningful to note that since the Pens added Martin/Michalek, Ovechkin hasn’t scored. Because he always did. Whether or not you think it correlates is up to you.
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by Hooks Orpik on Feb 21, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t think they learned how to better defend him (if so, it took five years, and the rest of the league is made up of idiots…I don’t think that’s the case). Just that he’s not as explosive as in the past. Same defense as always, just more effective now than before.
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by red army line on Feb 21, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
I look to NYI as the most obvious example. It was pretty clear they had 2 guys backchecking hard on AO’s side.
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by red army line on Feb 21, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
On the last note…worth noting Letang has been Norris-worthy this season, and he’s been facing AO along with Orpik.
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by red army line on Feb 21, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Now that the Pens can set the matchup, watch who they put out there. (Though Martin is game-time decision, so it might not hold this game).
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by Hooks Orpik on Feb 21, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Now that the Pens can set the matchup, watch who they put out there.
martin didn’t suit up, so surely that’s the reason michalek played fewer minutes against ovechkin at 5 v 5 than he did against any washington capital not named DJ king (the site lets you order opponents by player if you click on the name at the top of the column). michalek was matched up against laich-semin, and played more ES minutes against the matt bradley line than he did against the ovechkin line.
by Natty Bumppo on Feb 21, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
The Habs “limited” him to 5 goals and 5 assists in 7 games. They did a much better job of actually limiting Crosby in the 2nd round. If they don’t wave off Ovie’s 6th goal of that series I think last year’s playoffs go very, very differently too.
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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Far more important is the fact the Caps are 6-0-1 against the Pens in the past two seasons, and the only win the Pens have in that span was via the Bettman Gimmick.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 21, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
What about the other 17 guys on the ice?
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and that…sounds really really bad. I did not mean it the way I’m sure most of you will read that. headdesks
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Doesn’t sound bad at all, WOI. Pens/Caps is the man-on-man show. And the discussion Hooks is starting is perfectly legit. AO has been good for 2ppg for the entire series between them. This year, in three games, no points. That seems to me to be significant. And Michalek’s work has been excellent.
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by EmilyB on Feb 21, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thank you, Zbynek Michalek.
thank you, negotiating window with dan hamhuis.
by Natty Bumppo on Feb 21, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Right. All Michalek. Nevermind the fact that in the first meeting between the two teams, Orpik and Letang got well over twice as much ES ice time against Ovechkin as Michalek did. And in the second meeting (when Bylsma had the last line change), it was again Orpik and Letang by miles. And in the third meeting, it was Orpik again.
Don’t thank Michalek. In fact, don’t thank Orpik. Thank Ovechkin.
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by J.P. on Feb 21, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
Ovechkin: 0 points in those three games.
Caps record: 2-0-1
Pens record: 1-2-0
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by ThePeerless on Feb 21, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
While with the Pens injuries I think it’s a moot point this year, I wouldn’t say the Flyers passed the Pens until they actually beat them in the playoffs. Vancouver still is unproven and Chicago isn’t even in the playoffs right now. We’ll see what Tampa does.
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by Davethecapsfan on Feb 21, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t even bother with Cooke. Shut him down, keep his elbows pinned to his sides, and ignore him completely.
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Exactly…if the Caps are paying attention to Cooke, they are playing his game. Nothing beats winning.
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by ThePeerless on Feb 21, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
I’ll be happy with the first two… Cooke will get his somewhere else. If the game becomes a blow out, then Cooke will get his too.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 21, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Ales Hemsky
Wyshynski tweeted this rumor last night that has one glaring error in it:
Saw @TSNRyanRishaug mention this, heard same thing last night: Hemsky very much on Capitals’ radar. Solves 2nd line C, UFA 2012. High cost
The error, of course (which Wysh corrected) was that Hemsky is a center; the guy hasn’t taken 100 draws in his NHL career. But that doesn’t change the fact that a couple of credible sources have said that Hemsky’s on the Caps’ radar.
The good question is “why?” Hemsky is a scoring winger with a great set of hands and a decent shot, though he prefers to set up his teammates rather than score himself; he also is fairly brittle and often accused of not giving maximum effort every night. Red Line Station has a nice in-depth description of Hemsky and asked the question (back in November!) if he’d be a potential trade target for the Caps.
Hemsky sounds, to me, like a playmaking Alex Semin with even less PK time. And while Hemsky doesn’t solve the second-line center issue, he could potentially free up an asset (Semin) who could then be shipped to a team that has a second-line center. Do I smell a crazy HFBoards three-way trade between Edmonton, LA, and the Caps? I think I do!
If th Caps had not re-signed Semin for a year, I might have thought this possible. But the Caps have too many of the same player already — all too content to play in the perimeter — and Hemsky has not only a $4.1M cap hit next season, but it’s a $5.0M dollar outlay. Not buying on this rumor.
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by ThePeerless on Feb 21, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think it makes a whole lot of sense unless the Caps are actively trying to send Semin elsewhere for help down the middle.
Hemsky’s signed for next year at a 4.1 mil cap hit (GMGM and Ted haven’t shown that they care too much about the cash outlay, so long as it makes the team better) and having that extra 2.6 million of cap space next year would be advantageous for the Caps as well.
Judging by how the Sabres looked yesterday, I think Tim Connolly has a very realistic shot at being a Cap by this time next week. I can’t imagine the price would be too, too high.
by JimCareyFanClub on Feb 21, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
It appears that Puck Daddy doesn’t have a high degree of confidence in the Sabres:
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The next four games will determine what the Sabres do at the deadline.
What insight! You could plug eight or ten teams into that sentence and say the same thing.
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by ThePeerless on Feb 21, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Peerless, I was just quoting Puck Daddy — that’s not my quote. Their opinion seemed to be in line with JimCareyFanClub’s opinion that the Sabres seemed to trending downward; hence, my quoting of it, especially the “sell, sell, sell……” part.
But, you’re right in that you could plug several other teams in that quote, as in choose your favorite bubble team.
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Replacing Semin with Hemsky would be a net positive, I think. You get a small loss in offensive production coupled with an extra $2.5 million to spend next season.
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by red army line on Feb 21, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
Only if there’s something available to spend it on that’s worthwhile. As we’ve seen this year, cap space is great, but only if there’s a piece out there you’re willing/able to acquire. Right now there’s a dearth of available centers that would be an upgrade over what the Caps presently have.
Moreover, Hemsky’s made of glass.
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All right, here goes:
To LA: Semin, Eakin
To Edmonton: Colten Teubert, Vyacheslav Voynov, LA’s 1st;
To Washington: Hemsky, Handzus
From LA: Handzus, Teubert, Voynov, 1st;
From WSH: Semin, Eakin
From EDM: Hemsky
Edmonton gets two stud D prospects and a first; LA gets an excellent goal-scoring wing who can play either side of Anze Kopitar and a prospective 3C/W; the Caps get a playmaking wing and a good rental center for this season. L.A. then has the depth at center to either put Loktionov or Oscar Moller at the 3C spot.
I feel like the Caps should be giving up a bit more than this, but if you think of it on the level of “Semin for Hemsky and Handzus for Eakin” in separate deals, it almost seems like it’s an overpayment.
My first reaction: LA is giving up a ton there.
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by red army line on Feb 21, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
But, I would argue Semin is the best player involved in this trade. And the cupboard isn’t left empty for them. They still would have some solid D prospects left over, along with Brayden Schenn.
If anything, I’m not sure I like the Caps’ return. Is Handzus/Hemsky that much better than (2C Acquisition)/Semin?
by JimCareyFanClub on Feb 21, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Laich-Handzus-Hemsky is like…think Ryan Kesler last year. That’s the sort of line that BB will have at his disposal with those three. They can take the hardest minutes and zone starts and come out on top.
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by red army line on Feb 21, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
But who is the finisher? That line is better with Semin than with Hemsky, so we could just do Eakin plus a mid round pick and get Handzus and not worry about Hemsky. Laich-Zeus-Jizz would be a great line.
I guess the big reason to throw in Semin would be to get some extra cap space next year with which the Caps could re-sign Hannan or Handzus..
I can see the value there, it’s just going to be subjective as to whether you think that’s enough to offset losing Semin for Hemsky. I don’t personally think it’s worth it. I’m even less convinced Hemsky can stay healthy for a playoff run than I am about Semin.
Total games/season since being drafted (Hemsky being drafted in ’01, Semin in ’02):
Hemsky: 59/82, 47/50, 71/82, 81/82, 64/82, 72/82, 74/82, 22/82
Semin: 56/82 (52 in DC, 4 in Portland), 50/50, 32/50, 77/82, 63/82, 62/82, 73/82
With the exception of Hemsky’s 22-game season (which was due to a knee injury that required surgery), the two are fairly comparable in the “brittle” department, no?
I don’t really care, honestly. I would expect all three to score 20 goals, or at least come close. Part of the reason there doesn’t appear to be a finisher is since Handzus and especially Hemsky don’t shoot the puck at all.
I do see a lot of value in making AO and Mojo’s jobs easier, though.
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by red army line on Feb 21, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
If that’s what Edmonton gets for Hemsky, Tambellini deserves a “GM of the year” award.
Hemsky’s a nifty player, but we’re talking about a guy who’s never played more than 74 games in a season and who has never scored 25 goals and isn’t exactly what you’d call defensively conscious.
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Would that be a fair trade for Semin, though? I think it might. The Kings are only going to lose three defensemen to free agency in the next two years (Mitchell, Scuderi, and 7th D Peter Harrold) and yet have five or six D prospects who are playing in Manchester (Muzzin, Voynov, Hickey, Teubert, and Mullen) or in college (Forbort). Jack Johnson and Drew Doughty will get locked up long-term, and all of the sudden the Kings have to ask themselves what they’re doing with this wealth of D-men.
I like it from the Caps and Oils’ perspectives. I guess if LAK are desperate they could pull the trigger, but given how the playoffs work, if I were a GM, I’d never be that desperate.
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by red army line on Feb 21, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Well, not never never, but I think y’all understand.
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by red army line on Feb 21, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
PP
1) I thought it played pretty well today. Hey, it used to be that they couldn’t get shots in at all. Today, they put a good number on net, several of which would have beaten a lesser goalie, one of which beat miller.
2) Is it just me, or have they picked up recently? Does someone have PP numbers for the past 5-10 games?
Also, Ovie’s been really trending up recently.
I don’t recall them being 2nd at shots for/60 before. (I don’t know whether SFON/60 here is shots or saves—meaning shots is GFON60 + SFON60—but it shouldn’t matter for the purpose of this post).
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by red army line on Feb 21, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
Bengt- (Åke) and Anton Gustafsson faced each other for the first time this weekend (in the Swiss league). Senior beat Junior. Anton got 1 assist in 8 games.
Link in Swedish. I can’t link to a Google translate page today for some reason. I don’t know if it’s on me or if it’s a SB thing.
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Regarding the Pens, Dreger has an item this morning:
It’s believed the Pens are willing to move defenceman Alex Goligoski for the right forward, and a trade involving Stars winger James Neal has been discussed.
That sounds to me like a good move for them, so I’d hope it doesn’t happen.
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by Knee high to a duck on Feb 21, 2011 11:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
If that’s a serious rumor, the Caps need to jump in on this. If anything, drive up the price. Gologoski plays worse defense than Mike Green, and isn’t nearly as talented offensively. No way that can be all of it.
by JimCareyFanClub on Feb 21, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Watch the Penguins closely at the deadline. If you are looking for indicators that Crosby is returning, an active Penguin team at the deadline suggests to me he will answer the bell for the playoffs. If Crosby’s recouperation is slow, the Pens might be silent at the deadline. Trades made by a club without their top two centers might be chasing smoke. They can’t add enough talent to make up the difference, and I don’t care how hard they work, the team they are icing can’t win four games four times in the spring against healthier, more talented teams.
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by ThePeerless on Feb 21, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
I know, but I thought that was interesting. Just because they discuss a trade doesn’t mean anything comes of it, either. Seems to me I read something late last week that Crosby wasn’t even taking workouts yet. I could, of course, have hallucinated that.
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You’re probably right, Peerless (and b orr below), but the Pens are likely fatally flawed without Malkin anyways.
If the chance to get Neal for Goligoski is on the table, I think you take it as fast as possible. Not necessarily to win this year, but for the over-arching point of adding a legit young, NHL skilled winger.
But overall, I do agree with what you said. I’m coming to expect the Pens to be relatively quiet at the deadline.
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by Hooks Orpik on Feb 21, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
That’d be a pretty epic coup for Shero. McKenzie just confirmed there was lots of chatter about it.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
I’d be amazed if it was straight up, but stranger things have happened. Apparently some in Dallas’ front office aren’t as impressed by Neal as most observers seem to be, but the asset still has a lot of value, even if they don’t agree surely they must realize that.
I’d be more than cool with throwing in a decent prospect and not first round pick if that’s what it took from the Pittsburgh side.
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by Hooks Orpik on Feb 21, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
If Dallas thinks they can contend in the West (I’m not convinced), though, why would they trade 1/3 of one of the NHL’s best top lines? Doesn’t add up, unless they’re ready to deal Richards too.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Richards has concussion symptoms. They may have the same problem Pittsburgh has.
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neal is only being moved if that team decides to out-and-out sell. like gfcaps fan says, i think there’s a good chance with richards still not on the ice (though it sounds like benn could play this week).
by Natty Bumppo on Feb 21, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
Depending on what Shero does (or doesn’t do) at the deadline will say volumes on Crosby’s future this season. If he doubts Crosby is returning, then he’d be crazy to make a big move in a season when they’ll be luck to get out of the first round.
Brandon at Defending Big D has a good article on the reasons why the Stars could be shopping around James Neal.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
From Rossi on Pens
James Neal is the target, and this isn’t being viewed through short-term prism. Multiple players being discussed.
and
Tangradi also being talked up as available by Pens.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
If they can get him without giving up Tangradi, Despres, or any of their core, that’ll be something.
by JimCareyFanClub on Feb 21, 2011 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
Penguins got him...
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Goligoski for Neal AND Niskanen? Oh man, did the Stars get fleeced on this deal..
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by cuqui on Feb 21, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
In the very short term this helps the Caps because the Pens aren’t going to be even more depleted tonight. I doubt that Neal and Niskanen can get to Pitt by game time, and they don’t have Goligoski.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 21, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
That is seriously a fucking joke. It would have been a steal to get Neal for Gogo but with Niskanen to boot, that’s the kind of trade that could and probably should cost Joe Nieuwendyk his job. The rich get richer I suppose.
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by red army line on Feb 21, 2011 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
NBC Cameras
Don’t know if this was discussed during the GDT yesterday but. . . did NBC let the interns run the cameras for the first period of yesterday’s game? They kept zooming in on the puck when it was in the offensive zone, so that every time there was a pass, the camera had to pan quickly to keep up, but it couldn’t so the camera was just constantly one step behind the play. Also, it seemed like the purpose of all the zooming was to fill up 1/2 of the screen with the stands whenever the puck was down low.
NBC/Versus: hockey is a fast sport – don’t try to follow the puck with the camera. Just pan back a little and show the whole offensive/defensive zone and let the viewer follow the puck. Thanks.
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NBC usually has one hockey game in a weekend. Yesterday they tried to do 4…. their top crew was in Chicago, so there were some amateurs out there….
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 21, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
Possible Center Source
After acquiring Jay McClement, the Avs have 5/6 centers on the roster (Duchene, Stastny, O’Reilly, McClement, Dupuis and Galiardi [who has been a center in the past]). In addition, their top prospect, Joey Hishon, is a center and presently lighting up the OHL.
Of all these guys the only two “untouchables” are likely Duchene and Hishon. Stastny has been underperforming his salary this year and it’s possible that the Avs would look to move him. Dater speculates that it’s more likely that the team moves O’Reilly instead.
As much as I love O’Reilly (oh, really?), he’s not a great fit for the Caps right now. He’d essentially be another 2/3 “tweener” to go along with MP and MoJo. Unlike those two, he’s a stud defensively, but he’s got much less offensive ability/upside.
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So if you don’t think ROR is a good fit and Stastny might be available, the course of action is pretty clear, no?
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, the question is, what would the Avs want in return?
I’d have to imagine they’d inquire about a goalie, since their only goalie prospect is Pickard, and he’s a few years away. I’d also imagine that they’d ask for winger and maybe a pick in return.
Dunno. Stranger things have happened.
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I bet Holtby and Semin would get it done if thats the direction the Avs are thinking.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Semin, Holtby and a pick for Stastny?
That’s a pile of loot for Stats, as much as I’d love to have him.
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Well, what would you give for Backstrom, if Backstrom were on Stastny’s deal?
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by red army line on Feb 21, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
No, but we know Tyler Dellow does. I think it’s safe to assume he’s not completely off-base in that comparison.
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by red army line on Feb 21, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Guess that depends on how closely you think Tyler hits the mark when he talks about Backstrom. I think he sells Nick far short. I also can’t get the Olympics out of my head when we talk about Stastny. Add in that COL already has him and they don’t think he’s worth the contract and I’m skeptical. It’s not like he’s too old to be part of the rebuild. They don’t have other guys that are commanding a ton of money that would force him off the team (which is the case with the Caps). He’s a nice player, but I don’t think it makes sense for us to pursue him.
The Olympics aren’t really fair to judge a player on, unfortunately. Take Erik Johnson – infinitely better for Team USA than he has been for the Blues. Stastny’s been better for the Avs than he was for the Americans, it happens.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
I know. And I’m conscious of that. If it were straight up for Semin I’d do it, but I doubt COL wants to make that trade. Given he’s already being paid a lot we aren’t going to get too much surplus production for him.
Well, no, but he’s really, really good. You wouldn’t give up Holtby and Semin for him?
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe. I don’t like the idea of moving Holtby and I doubt COL thinks too highly of him. I’d certainly think about it but there are other guys I’d rather move first.
Sure, the theory was though that the Avs would want a goalie and Holtby is the most moveable of the three, right?
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
Holtby temporarily dinged his trade value over the weekend. Some serious rust from those three weeks out.
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If the Caps are going to lure a center like Statsny away from Colorado, they have to part with a goaltender, esp. when that team sends out either Elliot or Budaj every night….
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 21, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure why the Avs would want Semin. I mean, talent, obviously, but they’re looking for younger players.
Well, the Caps don’t really have another scoring W to trade, really. Unless you think they’d do it for Laich?
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I don’t think they would.
The Avs are — like most teams on the outside looking in — looking for good prospects that are ready or nearly ready to jump in. That’s why they’ll want a high pick, one of Holtby/Varlamov/Neuvirth, and probably Orlov.
I know it’’s not proven, but Hockey futures says he has the skill of a top tier puck mover. Or something like that.
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by red army line on Feb 21, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think we could take the cap hit in the long run
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Really? Stastny has three more years left after this one @$6.6 million. He’s only 25. His numbers look to have come power versus power, as well.
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by red army line on Feb 21, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
In Semin, you’re giving up a legit top line winger who is about to turn 27 and is in the prime of his career. He may be streaky, but the guy has averaged a goal a game over the last five years. Only a handful of players can make that claim. Holtby has the potential to become a #1 keeper for a decade. And you’re throwing in a pick. Stastny’s a good player, but in five years he’s never scored more than 29 goals in a season or more than 79 points. Semin has scored over 29 three times and will probably do it again this year and has two seasons of 79 points or more. I’d trade Semin for Stastny, but no way I’d throw in Holtby and definitely not a pick, particularly since the Caps have some very promising centers in the pipeline.
but the guy has averaged a goal a game over the last five years.
Um, no. Not even close. He hasn’t even averaged a point per game.
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I meant point a game, my error. In 320 game games he has 318 points. That’s close enough in my book.
You realize that Stastny hasn’t been far behind that production rate, despite playing on a much, much worse team?
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I’m not downplaying Stastny’s ability. He’s an excellent player and if it were a straight up trade of Semin for him, I’d probably do it. I just wouldn’t trade Semin, Holtby and a high pick for Stastny, which was what started this discussion.
If Semin and Stastny were equals, then we could look at it as 2 yrs of Stastny for Hotlby and a pick. That sounds reasonable to me. More gets shipped for 2 months of a winger.
I think you’re overrating Holtby’s value. I think given how unpredictable goalies are in development, goalie prospects are most valuable to the organization in which they’re in.
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by red army line on Feb 21, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
would we not need some goaltending back? We don’t have much cushion in Hershey right now…
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I think she gets it, but it hurts. Same deal with Eakin.
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by red army line on Feb 21, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
My point is, with regards to this type of deal, I really don’t care that much if it leaves Hershey worse off. Not much at all. And if that’s stopping GMGM from making a deal like this, then he should be fired.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 21, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Was more thinking reinforcement from HER when/if #brittlegroin strikes Varly or Neuvy again. Sabourin is out for a good long while still, and I son’t think Ford or DeMike are ready even for bench duty.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
He’s not an NHL calibre goalie, but he’d be terrific for Hershey.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 21, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
Partly depends on the pick.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 21, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Are you kidding? A #1C for Semin and a goalie that’s third on the depth chart?
Look around the EC at the top teams. Every one of them has depth down the middle save for the Caps. Philly’s got Richards/Carter/Giroux/Briere, Pittsburgh’s got Crosby/Malkin/Staal, Boston’s got Krejci/Bergeron/Seguin, Tampa’s got Stamkos/Lecavalier. . . The Caps go Backstrom down to Johansson. Uf da.
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I know that no one’s favorite commenter suggested the other day that Stastny will be moved to make way for Joey Hishon. I don’t buy that, but I do know that the Avalanche have depth among centers but are thin on the wing. Stastny also has a $6.6 million annual salary, not an insignificant number for this cheapskate franchise. Bottom line, though, is that Stastny is the team’s best tradeable asset. If he’s moved, the return will be significant (or we might have to shut down this blog due to the outrage). Odds are, Stastny is staying and the Avs will continue to have that solid 1-2-3 punch up the middle. But, I no longer consider Stastny to be completely off the table.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
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DetAvs has real MarioD potential. he’s the closest thing i’ve seen. this was my favorite comment among many to choose from in the wake of the johnson/stewart trade:
1. Hishon hurt his hand training BEFORE camp.
2. You saw him in a couple drills in rookie camp and think you have the credibility to talk down to someone who watches him play – live – ALL THE TIME?
3. Well, when you have your education paid for, when you have the NHL fly you to the Draft a couple times, when you’re able to make a living evaluating talent, then you can get back to me about my ability to assess talent.
4. Which took gall in the first place, coming from the girl who thinks Saad is a hard hitting power forward.
You should really learn not to run your mouth about players you’ve never seen to people who have.
by Natty Bumppo on Feb 21, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder if anyone has shown that commenter that “Dangers (Limits?) of Observation” post.
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by red army line on Feb 21, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
I knew having a day off today so sleeping in so close to deadline would make me miss things but who cares. Oh and Stastny on the Caps….hell yeah!
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
From Bob McK regrding Stastny
With another three years at $6.6 million per yr, I personally would be surprised if Paul Stastny moves. Lot of teams don’t like that ticket.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
bobby mac is just lowering his trade value for us!
by Natty Bumppo on Feb 21, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
I haven’t watched the video in this link yet but it might be better.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Looked good to me.
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Feb 21, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
*shrug*
Bad angle for Suter to be at. I don’t think it was Doan targeting his head though. I dunno.
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Yeah I agree. I’m not sure that it was dirty persay, definitely uncalled for, though. It looks like he was trying to hit him in the head, and he wasn’t trying to play the puck. Knocked Suter out of the game and for at least the next week.
The problem isn’t really which part of his body he used on the hit, it was the timing + location.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Uncalled for? That’s every team’s gameplan against a stud D. Get the puck in his corner and murder him. That’s just hockey, man. Sucks it’s your guy, but I don’t see anything dirty about it.
by Rob Parker on Feb 21, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Right, I’m coming around to that perspective, the only thing I would point out is (which you can’t see on the video) it appeared to be retaliatory because Suter had just completely undressed Doan of the puck.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Oh in that case…
I’m sure Shea Weber never put a guy through the boards in retaliation.
by Rob Parker on Feb 21, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Or slash him on the wrist….
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
My recollection is that there wasn’t any supposedly about it, only whether or not the guy was hurt from it.
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Oh I know, I only say supposedly because there was no video; I don’t doubt it happened.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
Haha. I know, I’m a homer.
Weber would’ve taken his head off, and I would’ve applauded. Such is fandom…
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Jordin Tootoo has never committed an uncalled for hit.
Release the Mackan!
by Killer_Carlson on Feb 21, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
I know, I’m a homer.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t see a problem with it. The puck was right there and Doan drove laterally through him, not up at his head, and he kept his elbow tucked. If Suter is standing upright that’s a shoulder straight to his chest.
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by Killer_Carlson on Feb 21, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, its really hard to tell, unfortunately, but I’d tend to agree. Might should’ve been a penalty, but meh. Injury is the only thing getting me a little worked up about it.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Clean hit, no penalty. Doan wasn’t charging, didn’t leave his feet (it would have been better for Suter if he had), and hit him face forward. Suter may not have seen him with his head down, but there is a responsibility for player to protect themselves. Doan certainly wasn’t head hunting this time….
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 21, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
Per Emptynetters, Staal in, Kunitz out tonight.
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Feb 21, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Martin a game-time decision.
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That was a dangerous shove by Sharp. It didn’t seem intentional — and I think it was more of righting himself — but it could’ve been a lot worse for Martin.
Should’ve been a boarding call.
Not buying that it wasn’t intentional; thought it looked markedly similar to the shove AO gave Campbell, just without the injurious result.
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It definitely should’ve been a penalty. The only reason I’m giving Sharp the benefit of the doubt is that he was being checked at the same time so he was fighting through that defender to get to Martin.
If Martin had sustained a broken collarbone, he’d be talking to Campbell right now. It’s the way of the NHL, unfortunately.
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Mike Green out tonight, but taking hard practices w/team.
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by Malin A on Feb 21, 2011 12:08 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I wouldn’t mind, I don’t think. Quick look shows an outshooting tough minutes forward who’s signed for $3 million cap hit this year and next. Plays a lot with Jokinen, Bourque, Glencross, and Stajan.
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by red army line on Feb 21, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Souray clears waivers. He can continue his powerplay cannon reign of terror.
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Not disagreeing but isn’t that the same argument they’ve been making for soccer for the last two decades?
Hockey’s probably requires a bigger commitment than soccer, so that might help, right?
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Dunno about bigger, but there’s an accessibility/affordability issue that youth hockey will always have to overcome.
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Crap, context FAIL.
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Kaberle/Versteeg trades
This came up on another board about how the Capitals should have made a run at these guys. I couldn’t really fathom it — Kaberle, to me, is quite overpaid and underperforming. At premium pricing, a defenseman has to be more than just points. Kaberle looks more lost in his own zone than even Green does in the playoffs.
And Versteeg, didn’t we just get rid of Fleischmann? No real difference between the two other than proven 20g productivity. Same lax defensive effort and everything.
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Completely agree about Kaberle. I’d be furious if we gave up two first round assets for him.
Versteeg is better than Flash, but he’s paid more, too. I wouldn’t want that contract.
oh definitely better than Flash, just close enough to show that Versteeg would be a bad fit for the team.
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well that was interesting reply on my part, but, yeah, Versteeg is better than Flash hands down. Just saying he’s a similar enough player to show that he’d be a bad fit for the team.
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Talking to Burke about Kaberle is ok, I guess, but not paying the price Boston did.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
Also, a Sabres fan friend of mine just mentioned there were 23 scouts from 20 teams at the Sabres/Caps game. I don’t know who from the Sabres are movable, but, it sounds like MP85 is going to be some major tradebait to me.
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On the Sabres, Tim Connolly is movable and teams would be interested in him as a 2C. Alot of the scouts there were checking out which of the team doctors for BUF could be packaged with him in a deal.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
Just a thought: might Anaheim be a willing taker for one of our D on a not-great contract, either at the deadline or maybe at the draft/FA? They’re kinda thin (though Beauchemin now makes their situation at least manageable).
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Poti to the Ducks in exchange for get the fuck out of here, Poti, your cap space can be used better elsewhere.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 21, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I would hope we would have to give up more for GTFOOH.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Parros’ mustache.
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by red army line on Feb 21, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, yes. NHL.com went there..
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by bagace on Feb 21, 2011 1:53 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
It’s like when it was Mardi Gras, and their headlie was Marty Gras. AKA Marty fat.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 21, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
Holiday daytime hockey is a nice diversion, especially when streamed at yahoo. Isles up 3-0 over the Panthers in the second.
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4-0. Shots on goal 20-4 for the Islanders. Sheesh.
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Disregarding his play here, would people agree that Joe Corvo definitely had the worst facial hair on the Caps?
Greener is pretty bad, but its hard to compete when King Karl is on the team
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meh, I can find worse
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Tramp Stamps on men are tough to beat, especially when they look like Sasha’s hand prints from a far….but I gotta say, maybe the around the Navel just nudges it
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Except those don’t really fit the definition of tramp stamp.. at least not my definition of it. The traditional Tramp Stamp is located in the middle of the back whereas these are not. I will admit though that I can think of a hundred better places to get a tattoo about a dead sibling. That being said. tattoo’s in Russian Culture are treated a tad bit different then they are here or so Im told so no wonder he had them somewhere where it would be harder to see.
Ovie’s “Sergei” tattoo isn’t those chinese characters. it’s on his somewhere on his abdomen.
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Guess I’m not winning GAA again this week….
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by twistedlogic on Feb 21, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
just in time for us to play them 2 out of our next 9
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Am I the only one, or do other already have trade deadline fatigue? I really should shut down my browser entirely. It’s so exhausting.
I mean – is James Neal trending yet on Twitter? He’s the topic of the day, now that Souray has cleared. As soon as a new player name comes up, it’s a veritable feeding frenzy.
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God no. I love this part of the year. And what the hell? I have a day off and there are no deals being made. Effin GMs have to step it up.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
If I had a day off, I might be in a different mindset.
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Sadly the trade deadline falls on Feb 28 which is my year end. I am going to try to get as much done before then to have some free time that day.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
I’m with RB – trade deadlines rock.
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I find it completely mesmerizing.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
is the brad richards injury going to prevent him from being moved at all, i wonder.
by Natty Bumppo on Feb 21, 2011 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
I would think the opposite
if Richards is out longer-term, wouldn’t you want to see how much you can get for Neal since they’re not going far anyway? DBD seems to think Neal is their most tradeable forward.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
sorry, pronoun fail on my part. is the brad richards injury going to prevent richards from being moved at all, i wonder.
speaking of richards, great interview with him by the dallas media contingent (via the dallas morning news).
by Natty Bumppo on Feb 21, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, I gotcha. That makes more sense.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
I suspect he is moved for conditional picks at worst, if there is a chance he comes back. They’d be crazy to not try to get something for him if they can
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I wasn’t paying attention, but Florida was down three and pulled the goalie?
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Getting lots of ?s about Semin trade rumors. I am told WAS has NOT had single conversation with anyone about Semin since he signed new deal.
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And there we go, from McKenzie:
DAL trades James Neal and Matt Niskanen to PIT for Alex Goligoski.
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Damn I was just asking about Niksanen on the weekend. Shero knows how to do deals.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
Niskanen
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
Is he taking advice from Brett Hull???
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 21, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
Peyote.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 21, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
Meth?
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Grrrrr
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maybe this just proves the avalanche were correct to value a 1st-pair D over a 1st-line power forward. building with centers and defensemen is the way to go. wings can be acquired.
by Natty Bumppo on Feb 21, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
depending, of course, on whether or not Erik Johnson turns into the no. 1 defenseman he can be.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
That was a straight up fleecing by Shero. Goligoski gets soft minutes and a bunch of PP time that make his boxcars look good. That tells me that Nieuwendyk is also going to overvalue Richards’s numbers against easier minutes.
Niskanen, while being a soft-minutes guy, is also an upgrade over Lovejoy or Engellend. I’m going to kick Joe Nieuwendyk’s sac through the top of his head if I ever meet him.
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by Knee high to a duck on Feb 21, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
Niskanen doesn’t really help with Lovejoy/Engelland, though.
I don’t know if the Penguins have someone ready in the Wilkes-Barre for next year.
Sure he does – he prevents an Engellend/Lovejoy 3rd pairing, which has to get hidden like Philly hid Bartulis/Syvret in the playoffs.
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by Knee high to a duck on Feb 21, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
Not knowing about their work in the A, Bortuzzo and/or Strait are down there now.
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 21, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
Sneep to, if memory serves. Despres is also A eligible next season and may test the waters with the big club.
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by Knee high to a duck on Feb 21, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Despres looked good in the WJC this year. A nice stay-at-home guy. I bet Shero is hoping he can come in and take the place of Orpik (because if there’s one contract that he’ll probably want to send away it’s that one).
Really? I thought Despres had a largely forgettable WJC – I was watching for him and he certainly didn’t stand out to me.
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by Knee high to a duck on Feb 21, 2011 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
Yep. Sneep and Strait might make that ’06 Pens draft look pretty damn good.
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 21, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
Sneep is still pretty far away. He’s survived the whole year in WB/S, but he definitely needs to make a big jump from this year to next in order to stay a prospect.
Strait on the other hand, has been very impressive. I think he could have an NHL future.
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He’s been paired with Bortuzzo down there a lot, no?
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 21, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah that’s been the #1 shutdown unit down there. I have a huge man crush on Bortuzzo. He’s basically a BCCD…Or, at least as close as you can get in 2011.
IMO next year Despres starts the year in the A and one of Bortuzzo/Strait as the #6 defense. Engelland stays as #7 and Lovejoy is peddled for whatever Shero can get.
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Holy fucking Christ.
Ray Shero 49, Joe Nieuwendyk 3.
That’s a pummeling.
Fuck. My. Life.
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by Knee high to a duck on Feb 21, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe GMJN would be interested in Tom Poti and Matt Hendricks for Loui Eriksson.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Loui on the Caps? Be still my beating heart.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
I would do TERRIBLE TERRIBLE THINGS to get Loui on the Caps. Such terrible things.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 21, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
Too bad you wouldn’t be able to see him play for the Caps while serving that prison term.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Worth it.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 21, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
They would have to include offing me because I’d do the same to get him to Nashville. Loui has to make a first team all-underrated list.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
Just to see Loui and Nicky play together on occasion like they did at the last Winter Games…sighs.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
Wouldn’t Loui look good as the right wing to Ovechkin and Backstrom?
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 21, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
I would have to change my pants.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 21, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
I. Will. End. You.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 21, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
Please elaborate? I need something to make me laugh after this…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 21, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
I would, but I fear that might result in me being on an FBI watch list.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 21, 2011 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
Fleeced…..If the deadline passes without a move…is that GMGM saying he likes our team the way it is, or throwing in the towel on this year.
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yea but there is no way he thinks this team which “should be” is ready for a cup run
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In other words, everyone else gets sweetheart deals, but no one will deal with GMGM unless he gives them one of Carlzerson or Varlavirth?
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Unless one of those is an in-contract player over multiple years, I doubt it.
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 21, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
picks and prospects…doesnt need to be warm bodies
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The prospects GMGM has he won’t give up unless he splashes the pot (or if his dance partner’s looking for a flat out cash dump), neither of which I’d bet will happen.
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 21, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
its getting kind of ridiculous I think. We have obvious issues. Every team in the East ahead of us has improved and we are sitting on our hands.
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we wrung our hands over that exact issue last year.
of all his good sides, this is really GMGMs biggest failure, imho. He looks too hard for diamonds in the rough in the trade market (well, at least at the deadline). Chimera and Hannan are different story, I guess
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Not sure agree with you. Huet and Fedorov worked out great and despite the failures last year I don’t fault the Belanger trade at all. I don’t think any of those three are “diamonds in the rough”.
Huet was not favored/established as starter (iirc) and Feds was thought to be very far into his decline. We sent hardly anything back for either of them and got really good results. I’d consider them diamonds in the rough. Since then, deadline deals have been…underwhelming to say the least.
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Seems GMGM is too enamored with the long-term vision/window to be bothered with shaking things up in the short term. Problem is we’ll have to wait years to find out if this is/was the prudent approach.
After last season and the way this team is built, to have to push your chips in the pot and go for the Cup. GMGM is not showing that while everyone else around him, is.
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The trade deadline is a week away. McPhee’s made moves every year. I doubt he’s going to get left at the altar. That trade looks good for Pittsburgh but neither of those guys are what’s needed here unless they can play center or man the point on the PP.
I have hopes something gets done….In no way am I saying Neal or Niskanen are a miss by GMGM, I am getting worried by the solid moves the Pens, Flyers, Bruins made while we have done nothing.
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Flyers and Bruins, I’d agree. I wouldn’t worry about the Pens. They’re not going anywhere this year. Keep in mind, they hardly got Neal for his playoff experience. I’ve played as many minutes as he has in the playoffs.
This isn’t a short-term deal, it’s a long-term deal. All 3 players traded are under contract for next season and are relatively young players. Pretty sure all are RFA after their respective contracts expire in summer ’12.
yep, all are RFA’s following 2011-2012. grrrrr.
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I’m wary of that. In any one season any team is such a longshot to win the Cup.
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by red army line on Feb 21, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Fuck Nieuwendyk and the Stars front office. Fucking assholes just GIVE Neal and Niskanen to the Pens.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 21, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
The Hobos already know.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 21, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
You mean knew, don’t you?
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 21, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
Both. Word is spreading fast in the hobo community.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 21, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
It depends on whether or not you consider hobo stabbings “something”.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 21, 2011 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
Wonder what dirt the Pens have on Nieuwendyk or what money Nieuwendyk owes the Pens. Gee whiz, are the Stars a virtual farm team to the Pens — similar to what the KC A’s were to the NY Yankees baseball team in the 50’s?
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James Neal/Matt Niskanen to PIT for Goligoski, per McK. Shero’s a genius.
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Straight up. Crazy good deal for Pittsburgh especially if Sid comes back. Wowwwwww.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
Shoulda known a Cornell grad would fuck that trade up. Way to go, Joe. Ripped. Off.
by Rob Parker on Feb 21, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I honestly have no idea what Nieuwendyk is thinking here. That’s ridiculous, good to see Neal get out of the West.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Fucking Ray Shero being good at his job.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Feb 21, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Goligoski’s cap hit is 1.83 through 2011-2012, at which point he is RFA
Neal is 2.875 through 2011-2012, also RFA. Niskanen is 1.5, also through 2011-2012 and RFA.
again, what is Joe smoking?
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Might be the “I really need to re-sign Brad Richards” stuff.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
I would have rather seen Dallas take some draft picks in that case.
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seriously. how does PITT keep pulling this shit off?
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Feb 21, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe it’s just a matter of making offers or asking for a player. Some GMs just seem to be really reluctant to pull the trigger (not saying McPhee is or anything), and Shero is already known as a guy who will make a deal.
Exactly GMGM and Shero are two different cats when it comes to making trades. As a guy who loves watching trades unfold and the roster action, I like watching Shero maneuver. As a Caps fan, I can understand GMGM’s more conservative nature…..at times lol.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
It was like me in high school. I really wanted to take Jennifer Patterson to the Duran Duran concert, but I waited and waited for the right moment and the right moment never came and I ended up going with my older sister.
Was she hot?
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
Jenny or his older sister?
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by twistedlogic on Feb 21, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Gotta love those Nick Rhodes solos.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
I think that describes McPhee pretty well. Perhaps he has the best plans in mind, but sometimes I just want new toys, damnit. Not saying Neal was someone I wanted, but I want players other than walker and corvo.
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You got something against Eric Belanger? ;)
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t imagine not making a deal when something like that comes along. Even if he’s playing conservative, I couldn’t imagine McPhee passing up on a huge steal (like Sloan for Richards or something).
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by twistedlogic on Feb 21, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Dude, if that’s the offer then of course you pull the trigger. Goligoski is 25! It’s not like he’s John Carlson and will get significantly better from here!
Neal is goal-scoring RFA who’s huge and valuable. You’ve gotta be kidding me.
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by Knee high to a duck on Feb 21, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
There’ve been some strange trades this year but this one takes the cake. It’s not like JN gave up on a hit or miss draft pick, James Neal is, pardon the overused phrase, the real deal. I know I would’ve given up a whole lot more than Goligoski to get him.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
Brandon at Defending Big D wrote an article today saying that Neal isn’t as available to the Stars as one may think,
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
Sure, but the return you get has to be better than Alex Goligoski. It has to be. It’s not a question of whether or not Neal was going to get better from here, it’s a question of potential return. The Stars left a lot of asset on the table in terms what they could have gotten for James Neal. If they really wanted to save money, picks don’t cost a thing and they’re likely to help you in the future by getting more production than cost.
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by Knee high to a duck on Feb 21, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
Im shocked GoGo was it…no picks, Shero had to wear a mask when he cut that deal
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According to Rossi, Tangradi was also available for the Pens. I don’t know if the Stars made a bid for him. I think they are basically clearing salary to resign Richards when a deal seems as lopsided as this one comes off.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
but there are always picks, even low rounders. those cost nothing cap wise, or real-money wise, at least for a while
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Reading the comments at Defending Big D, alot of the commenters don’t seem to be as upset about it as we are. They see Neal as very streaky and leaves them with questions whether he will ever reach his full potential. They are excited about a new first line of Benn-Richards-Eriksson. Alot seem to agree that Niskanen is the biggest “facepalm inducer” on the team . They like Gogo because they need a PP QB eeven if he will likely be 3rd on their depth chart (behind Robidas and Daley I am guessing).
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Stars fans seem to be going through what a lot of fans do when their team trades a player who is often hated on – they love the deal because they don’t have to put up with his quirks/laziness/inconsistency anymore.
Also they think Goligoski is a 3rd defenseman. Haha.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
You see the Stars more than any of us CB. Can you see Benn replacing Neal adequately on the first line?
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
Benn’s a center by trade, iirc. I think they’ll move Morrow up.
Related, though, Jamie Benn is a stud.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
Ahh ok. I was just getting my info from one of the commenters on the DBD board who said this is how he sees the new Stars lines falling into place:
Maybe this is the thought process:
Benn-Richards-Eriksson
Morrow-Ribs-Langs
Vincour-Ott-Burish
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
Still a very formidable top 9.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 21, 2011 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
Not when Carlson and Alzner are defending him.
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by gfcaps fan on Feb 21, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
CB, they experimented with benn at center but he’s more natural at wing (which is where he played for the AHL club). i wouldn’t be surprised to see him take neal’s spot.
The Stars for a while even moved Benn from left wing to center, a position he had never played. He is back on left wing with the Texas Stars, but Nieuwendyk said Benn still takes a lot of faceoffs and understands the center position.
by Natty Bumppo on Feb 21, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
Huh. I stand corrected, good pull.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
knee high, now you know how i felt when you were trading for crosby, kane and hartnell in our fantasy league last year.
by Natty Bumppo on Feb 21, 2011 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
This seriously pisses me off. Neal for GoGo wasn’t even fair. I thought it was more about what Pitt would have to throw in. Horrible trade. Shero must have some compromising photos of Nieuwendyk.
by JimCareyFanClub on Feb 21, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Un-fuckin-believeable! I guess this means the Caps can get Brad Richards for Tyler Sloan and 12 of Ovi’s broken sticks.
by JimCareyFanClub on Feb 21, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Ok 11.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
EJHradek_ESPN In the Stars-Penguins deal, Dallas saves a bit more than $2.5 in both real dollars and cap space for the rest of this year and next season.
Richards extenstion forthcoming?
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"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
I’ve read that Stars ownership wants to cut costs, so it sort of makes sense from that perspective.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Feb 21, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
Man I sure hope Brian Sutherby is available ;).
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 4:25 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Bring back the Suds!
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 21, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
So agree with most as I like Neal the most…interesting from a dollars perspective for Dallas with the team for sale, etc., but still surprising.
What surprises me is this is another deal involving 3 players all under contract through next season; no rentals involved.
I know little about Goligoski, so maybe this means nothing, but I do find it curious that he plays almost 21 minutes a game and is +20, best among all Pittsburgh defensemen. I know he’s probably playing easy minutes but maybe Dallas believes he’ll really blossom there playing top four minutes. And maybe they know something about Neal that Pittsburgh hasn’t seen. I do think this is a trade made not so much for the playoffs as it is for the big picture.
He’s a PP specialist who draws soft minutes at evens. He’s got an outlandish PDO (1034) driving his +/-. I hate this trade so very much.
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by Knee high to a duck on Feb 21, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
quick question for the advanced-stat dunces in the room (such as myself): what is PDO?
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On-ice shooting percentage (of all players on his team while the guy in question is on the ice) plus shooting percentage against on the ice. So If you add up the Pens shooting percentage with GoGo is on the ice plus their save percentage while he’s on the ice, you get 103.4% – PDO regresses, hard, to 1000. There are some forwards that can drive S% higher and some D that can drive Sv% higher, but the noise effects are generally a lot bigger than the player effects.
Jeff Schultz was a +50 last season because he had an outrageous PDO (the highest on record, 1069). He’s not anywhere near that this season and his numbers have suffered as a consequence.
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by Knee high to a duck on Feb 21, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
thanks, makes sense now. So typically guys who get lots of PP time on elite PP teams are going to have a higher PDO?
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No, this is strictly even strength data. Guys who are on teams with high shooting percentages and good save percentages are going to have high PDOs. Boston’s is stratospheric this season, because Fuzzy The Floppy Goaltender is stopping everything in sight. That’s going to end at some point.
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by Knee high to a duck on Feb 21, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
okay. I think I got it now.
Fuzzy the Floppy Goaltender……sigh. I like Tim Thomas the person. But Tim Thomas the goaltender? I’m certain I’m getting bald spots from all the hair-tearing I do while watching him.
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I felt the same way about Hasek, not that Hasek and Thomas are even remotely in the same conversation, but they both have a way of emulating salmon on dry land that makes you cry a little inside every time they lead the league in GAA.
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by winterion on Feb 21, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
so so so very true. I wonder how Russia likes the salmon on dry land impression that Hasak is doing in Moscow?
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This is a big picture trade for both teams; I like Neal the best of the players involved. Niskanen had a solid rookie and I believe soph. season, but not so much since then. I’m not as negative on Goligoski as some, but it will be interesting to see how he does in Dallas.
Pittsburgh gets a top 6 winger that they really need and I’d think that would be worth more than Niskanen plus Neal…For Dallas moving real dollars was definitely part of this trade.
Steckel me Elmo, how’s the hobo stabbing going? I’d be happy to stab another dozen since Niskanen got thrown in, too.
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If you read Defending BIg D’s comments on the trade, alot of them are happy Niskanen was thrown in. One called him the biggest “facepalm inducer” on the team
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t want to come off as insulting Defending Big D’s commentators, because I know very little about them, but I’m hesitant to but too much stock in that. Imagine what the CI comments would look like if Schultz got traded.
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by RedBirdie on Feb 21, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
And compare that to what the comments here would look like if Schultz got traded. I think it balances out. I mean I just think these guys watch a lot more Stars games than we do. I would trust them more on how someone like Niskanen or Neal have looked this year.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
there’d be no comments here because we’d all be too busy rushing to stop JP from throwing himself off a bridge. “No, JP! There’s life after Schultz, we promise!”
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Either that or we would be seeing him on his way to Columbus to give Jan Hjeda that piggyback ride back to DC.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
The reaction here reminds me of that Dodge commercial for Snowmageddon. “Piitsburgh has acquired James Neal. The world as we know it is ending.”
the world as we know it in Capslandia is always ending when the Pens get shinny new toys and we’re still trying to figure out how to get our Tom Poti to work.
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by RedBirdie on Feb 21, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This sums it up well. That and the shock at how one sided the deal is. It would be less shocking I think if it wasn’t our rivals (no tampa and carolina, you still dont count).
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I assume you mean the other RB? Because I’m totally on board with screaming about how it’s so unfair that the Pens got two players for nothing. I think it’s my duty as a Caps fan to cry about it for 24 hours. I can return to rational, fact-based discussion tomorrow. :)
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Valium my dear? ;)
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
no….more alcohol! you only turn 30 once! and the hockey scheduling gods blessed me with a Caps-Pens game. I’ve been twitchy and drinking since noon. game time is not getting here fast enough.
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yes :) and I better see some goddamn inspired fucking hockey!
/channeling Bruce.
Last year, Team USA gave me the best damn birthday hockey game EVER.
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Happy b-day fellow RB :)
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
Happy Birthday! May they score 3 ovechtricks to celebrate.
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and thanks everyone for the wishes.
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So he’s their Tyler Sloan? Nice….
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 21, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH!
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 21, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
so, not well? did BizNasty step in and try and stop this Penguin-induced violence against hobos?
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That’s my hobo stabbin’ yell.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 21, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
oh, nice. Let me lend my support:
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH!
stab away!
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That sounded more like BizNasty heard what was going on and decided to join in!
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 21, 2011 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
Got this from SI.com, but then consider the source they pulled it from.
AM ET 02.21 | The Panthers are open for business. Florida GM Dale Tallon is trying to unload before the deadline. Pretty much anybody on the Panthers roster is available — including C Stephen Weiss, if somebody will give up a first-round pick. The list I’ve been given of available players in Florida: LW Cory Stillman, C Steve Reinprecht, D Bryan McCabe, RW Steve Bernier, D Dennis Wideman, RW Radek Dvorak, C Shawn Matthias and Tomas Vokoun. OK, that pretty much covers the team. The Penguins could acquire Stillman, while McCabe and Wideman are good possibilities to get moved. Ottawa Sun
And then consider the egg they laid this afternoon on the Island.
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Give up a 1st for Weiss, George. Get on the damn phone, do it right now.
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by Knee high to a duck on Feb 21, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed on that. Weiss, while not making this team a Cup favorite, damn sure makes it a contender.
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by Knee high to a duck on Feb 21, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
No love for Grissom?
"This leg...is stanky."
by Bald Pollack on Feb 21, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec’d for Atlanta Braves nostalgia.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
Jason?
Eakin and 1st and Joe Finley for Weiss. Finley to appeal to Tallon’s size queen fetish.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
Realistically, what is Eakin’s ceiling? And realistically, what are the prospects of keeping Weiss long term?
My only worry is that, because he is among the top players available at his position, that we’d get hosed. Such thinking got Jeff Finger and Ron Hainsey $4M contracts…
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Realistically, what is Eakin’s ceiling?
I believe the comparable someone came up with is Max Talbot. Don’t let Dale Tallon here that, though.
If he could bring Weiss in return, I’d do that deal in a second but I’m sure Tallon is going to want at least a second rounder as well and maybe a roster player.
Another comparable is Darren Helm. Same size, great wheels, similar junior numbers in a similar league.
and Helm has hands of stone. He’s mini-Chimera. drives me crazy.
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Given the choice between Chimera and Helm, I’d take Helm.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 21, 2011 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed...
Talbot could be to Eakin what Tod Krygier was to Chimera….
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 21, 2011 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
Brandon Worley from Defending Big D's initial reactions
My initial reaction is that this trade proves three things: James Neal is not as valued as many felt he was by the Stars, Matt Niskanen is more expendable than a draft pick and the Stars are more than prepared to re-sign Brad Richards.
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Interesting rumors about Liles after Burke reportedly stated earlier today he’d like to add a dman sooner vs later, Colorado’s activity, and Liles ups and downs as an Avalanche. This wouldn’t surprise me except Liles doesn’t seem like a Burke type player.
adater adater
“Howard Berger of Toronto radio saying John Liles might be in play to Toronto”
What the heck would Toronto have that Colorado wants in return? Possibly picks. . . maybe Nazem Kadri?
I blame Schultz
Avs are pretty loaded at C. Plus Howard Berger is an idiot, right?
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by Chris Burton on Feb 21, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah he is.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
His skin is too sensitive?
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by boutros23 on Feb 21, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree that Liles doesn’t fit the Burke mold either. Having said that, the Leafs could sure use a PP QB.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
in a total rosterbatory move, how would Liles fit in in washingon? the PP could use a major jump start…
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Let’s blow this baby up:
Stastny and Liles to the Caps for ____________________________ .
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
sasha & orlov and a 2nd
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Silly………….
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I assume for this that Hendricks and Poti are on their way out to Colorado as part of the deal? I doubt the Avs want Hendricks back….
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 21, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
Poti is eating Nachos, Hendricks swaps with Gordo. No way Poti plays with 52,55,27,74,23 and Liles.
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Ideally Sloan, Poti and a 4th round pick.
Realistically, the Caps would have to give up a goaltender and at least two draft picks… an early-mid this year and a very early one in 2012 (Possibly a first).
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 21, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
Neal/Goligoski trade
I’m surprised the Stars wouldn’t try to get a bigger return for James Neal if they were planning to trade him. I can understand valuing someone like Jaime Benn more but if they were going to trade Neal and needed an offensive defenseman, couldn’t they have traded for someone better than Goligoski? Throwing in Niskanen doesn’t matter much to me since he’s just awful, imo.
Definitely makes the Pens more scary down the stretch since Crosby has a winger now when he gets healthy. Reminds me of the Whitney/Kunitz deal a little bit.
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Neal is the best winger (barring Hossa) the Pens have had since the lockout, off the top of my head.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 21, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
Great deal for the Pens, obviously, but I wonder how Kunitz is taking it, as the now-former “winger Sid has always needed but never had.”
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Like a cross check to the neck.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 21, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
he’s got a lot of company in that category.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 21, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
the first step is admitting that you have a problem. The problem is you thought Sidney Crosby would share the puck.
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On paper it looks good for Pittsburgh, but after reading a pretty well thought out analysis over at Defending Big D (h/t Rather Bengt), it may not be as cut and dry a win as it first appears. The fact that he has one goal in his last 11 games (most of which he played with Richards and Ericsson) makes me wonder a little.
I forgot that Neal plays left wing and not right. Hmm, so I guess Kunitz gets bumped to the second line now. Neal’s ceiling’s definitely a lot higher.
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by MyFriendCorey on Feb 21, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
is there a viewing party tonight anywhere?
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is it officially SB Nation/Japers?
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no, it’s the Caps-sponsored party. Not sure there’s a SBN/Japers party.
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None I know of. I need to get out of the house though.
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Is 52 sweater ready today?
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by TheFuryUnleashed on Feb 21, 2011 5:46 PM EST reply actions
No.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 21, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
Beat me to the punch, SME, I see.
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