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Stat Pack: Jeff Schultz is second on the Capitals in goals against per 60 minutes among defensemen behind Karl Alzner at 2.22 and ranks third among the blue line corps in Behind the Net’s quality of competition ratings behind Alzner and John Carlson. That said, Schultz has been a healthy scratch the past three games.

Aw, Sarge.

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by EmilyB on Dec 17, 2011 8:56 AM EST reply actions  

Should GMGM be expecting a phone call from Holmgren soon with the request “Let’s Make a Deal”?

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by CapsFan75 on Dec 17, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Milbury has been taken off the air.

by wickedwitch on Dec 17, 2011 9:12 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

How fast can you ruin yiffy life? Mike sure learned how.

What doesnt kill you makes you stronger.

by BetterOffWith28 on Dec 17, 2011 9:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Your ‘life’

What doesnt kill you makes you stronger.

by BetterOffWith28 on Dec 17, 2011 9:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

by sailchef1 on Dec 17, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Braden Holtzig? Who is…? What…? (CLICK)

oh. i see what you did there!

by marky narc on Dec 17, 2011 9:16 AM EST reply actions  

I was planning to write a story with a character named Braden Kolzig (and his last name would be pronounced in the German fashion as “kolts-ig”).

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by CapsFan75 on Dec 17, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

kolts-isch in many areas.

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by Whiter Mage on Dec 17, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re the expert here, WM.

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by CapsFan75 on Dec 17, 2011 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Hah, not always. Some Germans do a hard almost Zick, mostly in the north. Where I’ve lived it’s always been “Zisch.” Either way, I like Holtzig a lot.

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by Whiter Mage on Dec 17, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I enjoyed seeing that jersey as well.

Oddly enough, the Russian word for hockey begins with a “k” sound (essentially the character derived from the Greek letter Chi)

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by CapsFan75 on Dec 17, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I sure hope Neuvy has another good game. It’d be nice to get some wins in a row.

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by caps&skins on Dec 17, 2011 9:33 AM EST reply actions  

Peerless keeps predicting 3 and 4 goal games for the Capitals. It’s cute. But I’m skeptical.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 17, 2011 9:34 AM EST reply actions  

I sure hope that when Semin finally score, it’ll be in bunches. Perhaps a hat trick

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by BetterOffWith28 on Dec 17, 2011 9:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

If he does. Trade value will go up. Get it done gmgm

by Twisted Wrister on Dec 17, 2011 9:49 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

It was a lot easier to score in bunches when MarJo was punching them in from zero angle, Chimera was getting on the board and the D were putting up a point or two every game.

Now that they’re not, and Semin isn’t scoring at all and AO is scoring only once every dozen games, it’s pretty hard to put up a big number on most nights.

The Avs have looked dreadful in their own zone the couple times I’ve seen them lately, though. Turnovers, blown coverages, lack of back pressure…so if Semin is going to get of the schneid, this would seem to be a good opportunity.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 17, 2011 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d be pleased if Semin’s scoring resumed a more “normal” rate for him for the rest of the season. His decline in productivity leads me to wonder if last year’s groin injury is a contributing cause.

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by CapsFan75 on Dec 17, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I blame Cheerless…he drinks a lot and keeps whining about wanting wings. But we do have limits.

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Dec 17, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Lottery Picks

Is it the bottom 5 or the bottom 3 teams that get a chance for the frozen envelope?

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 17, 2011 9:50 AM EST reply actions  

...

Hmmm

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 17, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Clever.

For a regular joe like me, it can be pretty intimidating sharing space with a fucking genius like yourself, so do me a favor and just pretend my posts don’t exist, and I will extend you the same courtesy.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 17, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

FWIW, I got a chuckle out of “frozen envelope”.

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Dec 17, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I was responding to this, from the Times article:


The Avalanche aren’t the worst team in hockey, but the bottom three teams in the league all have a shot at the No. 1 pick in June’s draft.

It stuck in my head that it was the bottom 5, which turns out to be correct.

As for the frozen envelope, good conspiracy theories never die, but like a fine wine they acquire character with age.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 17, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

What, you expected that if a reporter wrote it, it must be right?

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by gfcaps fan on Dec 17, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, he had on his blogger’s hat, so it’s important to get a few inaccuracies in there, just to keep the narrative afloat.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 17, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I got a chuckle out of “frozen envelope” as well.

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by CapsFan75 on Dec 17, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow, didn’t know this was a no fun zone. I hardly think linking to that site merits this kind of response particularly from someone like yourself who’s been here a while and probably has posted snarky comments a time or two.

I’ll make sure to consider your delicate sensitivities in future posts.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 17, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Technically, all teams are in the lottery if they didn’t get into the playoffs, but since you can only move up 4 spots at max, only the worst 5 get a crack for the first pick. And you can only move one spot down.

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by Whiter Mage on Dec 17, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I remember watching that Mike Green goal live. I don’t believe it was the first “holy shit moment” with Green – I seem to recall that was a stretch pass to spring someone on a breakaway after he deked some poor donk into a corkscrew – but it was one of the early ones.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 17, 2011 9:53 AM EST reply actions  

On the ice with him?

18 Pettinger
24 Beech
22 Fata – goes off
87 Brashear – comes on
26 Morrisson

One of Fata’s 31 games with the club. I looked and was stunned to learn that Beech played 64 games with the Caps that year (8-18-26, -9, 46PIM)

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by STLSpidey on Dec 17, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Shocking that they just weren’t very good, wasn’t it?

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 17, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

They showed this on the Flyers game the other night – I think the point was that Beech had almost as many points in his second stint with the Caps (26) as he did in his entire time as a Penguin (27).

by STLEdge on Dec 17, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Another head coach bites the dust. Martin out for the Habs.

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by boutros23 on Dec 17, 2011 9:59 AM EST reply actions  

Milbury’s available!

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 17, 2011 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think they’ll touch that with a ten foot pole!

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by CapsFan75 on Dec 17, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

A more serious suggestion — they can always hire Randy Carlyle.

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by CapsFan75 on Dec 17, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

If he doesn’t speak French, forget it.

I wonder if Dale Hunter might not be the only successful junior coach to get a promotion to the Show this season. Patrick Roy’s phone could be ringing today.

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by EmilyB on Dec 17, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Okey, Randy C, start brushing up on your high school French.

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by CapsFan75 on Dec 17, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

They did say Cunneyworth would be interim through the end of the season, so they’ve got plenty of time.

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by boutros23 on Dec 17, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Not sure he speaks French, so seems doubtful, but one never knows.

Interim: Randy Cunneyworth

Asst. Larry Carriere – He had been working as asst. GM; also, his most recent NHL job before he took the one with Montreal was as a pro scout with the Caps.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 17, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

From other things he’s written, clear Proteau isn’t a Gauthier fan; with the Gomez and Kaberle trades, the Pearn firing, other stuff, hard to argue about time for a GM change…

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Dear Montreal mirror stores: Please send an employee out to Pierre Gauthier’s house a.s.a.p. Clearly, all of his are broken.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 17, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Join the club in wondering on how Knuble played his way to the 4th line. At the very list, he should be on the 2nd line — his talents are wasted on the 4th line, even if our 4th line is not a typical 4th line.

On that note: the RMNB website has begun a “Knuble for the 1st Line” campaign.

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by CapsFan75 on Dec 17, 2011 10:26 AM EST reply actions  

I’m glad others are as bewildered as I am.

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by caps&skins on Dec 17, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I had thought that perhaps Hunter felt safer using two kids on the fourth line with Knuble functioning as a teacher and veteran holding down the line. But with Hendricks back and Eakin presumabley sitting I thought Halpern would drop back down. I seem to recall that Halpern and Hendricks had at one point some pretty good magic together (although that winning streak to open the season is ancient history). I get rewarding players but has Halpern really played significantly better than Knuble?

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by capsyoungguns on Dec 17, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Not really. Halpern’s much better used as 4C, where his faceoff dominance can be used to best effect. Knuble on the 4th makes no sense – he’s the best net presence guy we have.

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by timmyv38 on Dec 17, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting that once again, Montreal made a change on game day; Montreal plays tonight: NJD at MTL with Brodeur vs Price the expected goalie match-up.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 17, 2011 10:42 AM EST reply actions  

The PA Puck piece on how French utilizes video coaching is fascinating and wonderfully detailed. Well worth the read. I noticed that French keeps the lessons down to 7 to 9 minutes and that if he singles out the bad play of a particular player he’s good about not being unduly harsh (at least according to the author).

Knuble: "I am what I am. I play well with good players."

by capsyoungguns on Dec 17, 2011 11:12 AM EST reply actions  

yeah that was a great article

by Beakers Lab on Dec 17, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

From the Caps-Avs video vault, a very vintage Mike Green goal. Get well soon, @GreenLife52. [YouTube, via @rkfoster8]

I was there! (and no, I’m not the ginger fan in the clip…) Man I miss vintage Mike Green.

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by breed16 on Dec 17, 2011 11:13 AM EST reply actions  

Just watched. Boy was that pretty. Miss me some Greenie too.

Knuble: "I am what I am. I play well with good players."

by capsyoungguns on Dec 17, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Memorable game including the Green goal, Ovechkin checking Karlis Skrastins (R.I.P.) and breaking the penalty box glass. Sakic’s 1500 NHL point. Ovechkin getting hit by a shot (Morrisonn’s IIRC) late in the game and wondering if he was going to be ok.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 17, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

The whole game was nuts. Ovechkin also got stuffed on a penalty shot. And I think it was Dater who had a quote from an Avs player in the paper the next day, on the Caps’ tenacious effort: “Geez, who do these guys think they are? The Red Wings?”

I miss that too.

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by breed16 on Dec 17, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, memorable and snow the next morning in Denver, too.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 17, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Also worth a read, Brian Sutherby’s: WJC: The Phone Call ; sounds like first of a series, still to come? Svitov’s Spit???

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 17, 2011 11:25 AM EST reply actions  

That was a good read. Brutal to have his roommate find out at 5:30 am that he was cut—before the first 6:30 team meeting. After reading both of these pieces I’m beginning to wonder if coaches ever sleep.

Knuble: "I am what I am. I play well with good players."

by capsyoungguns on Dec 17, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm going Tonight

Get to see the Caps live every two years.

Section 104, row 14 – Ovie’s LW side for 1st and 3rd periods. Hopefully I get to see vintage Ovie that has been making an appearance as of late. Varlamov likely to start – here’s hoping he’s as dreadful tonight as he has been all year.

by fantasydope on Dec 17, 2011 12:57 PM EST reply actions  

I hope you bring the Caps some good luck.

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by CapsFan75 on Dec 17, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Isn’t a home-and-home for every team going to be part of the new realignment?

by discuit on Dec 17, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Believe it is supposed to be a home and home for all with realignment. Haven’t brought Caps much luck over the last 30 years, should be a fun evening in any case. Avs are usually fun to watch.

by fantasydope on Dec 17, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Dang. Giggy’s starting tonight.

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by boutros23 on Dec 17, 2011 12:58 PM EST reply actions  

And Neuvy is starting for the Caps, according to CI.

“I am the new landlord here! Get out of my crease!” (As the name Neuvirth means “new landlord”. I presume the “virth” was a Czech corruption of the German word “wirth” which means landlord.)

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by CapsFan75 on Dec 17, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Shoot. Would have been fun to see Varly again.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 17, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Katie tweeted that Varly aggravated a back injury vs. the Sharks.

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by boutros23 on Dec 17, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

But he’s still backing up. I’m with JP that it’s up to the Caps to make sure we get Varly in the game. :)

by Aliceanna on Dec 17, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Altitude TV interviewed Winnik about his Gordie Howe hat trick after the second period in the San Jose game Thursday night. In the background Varly walked by shirtless, holding his back and he had some patch thing on his lower back. He played the third period where he let in 3 goals. I guess it’s still bothering him. Honestly I’m surprised that this is the first injury that he appears to have gotten this season.

by vtcapsfan99 on Dec 17, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

And amazingly isn’t his groin. Or even a knee.

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by gfcaps fan on Dec 17, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

It starts.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 17, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Every player gets minor injuries. I don’t think this is the start of a month long absence. It’s not like it’s his groin or knee. Who knows though, but if it was really bad, I assume he wouldn’t be the backup. He’s already played 24 games which is almost equal to the total in his previous two seasons. Sacco likes to ride his #1 goalie, he has played Varly 6-7 games in a row before. Not sure if that is the best idea for a player like Varly, but something must be working for him health-wise so far in CO.

by vtcapsfan99 on Dec 17, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

SWhyno Stephen Whyno

Just saw Mike Green. He is with #Caps in Denver

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 17, 2011 1:00 PM EST reply actions  

And tonight he’ll keep Squeaks and Schultz company in the press box.

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by CapsFan75 on Dec 17, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Nonsense, he will be on the ice the whole time.

by discuit on Dec 17, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

We wish!

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by CapsFan75 on Dec 17, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Flyers getting curb stomped by the Bruins already. I sat Bryz last second. Thank. God.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 17, 2011 1:29 PM EST reply actions  

Lucky or wise, either way, those 3 goals on 11 shots in 12 minutes won’t be on your head. Humangous beeg problems for Bryz.

by Aliceanna on Dec 17, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll go with wise…

And yeah, Bryz has not lived up to the contract so far. At least he has 9 years to work it out, right?

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by Rob Parker on Dec 17, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Wish he could have been so leaky against the Caps.

by Aliceanna on Dec 17, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s the notable out-lier.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 17, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

4 goals now…leaky/soft goals, lucky goals, or are the Flyers just not playing any D?

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 17, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Mostly the latter.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 17, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I was rolling my eyes the other day while lurking on BSH…a substantial run of commenters were reassuring each other that with the way Simmonds, Jagr, Read, Zolnerczissisikqi, Bourdon, Carle and Timmonen et al were playing, the loss of Pronger and Giroux would not have much of an effect.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 17, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, they should be a good team regardless. They just…haven’t.

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by red army line on Dec 17, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

First one was super leaky. 2 PPGs – Bryz was well screened.

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by boutros23 on Dec 17, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

And the second was tipped too.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 17, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, the best team ever is losing? What’s up with that?

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 17, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, this is turning into a real shit show.

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by boutros23 on Dec 17, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

This game is crazy. 3 fights, constant PPs for either side, still 4-0.

by Aliceanna on Dec 17, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s blocked out on GCL.

If I knew how to get a proxy IP address I might be able to get around it. Maybe…

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 17, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

No NHLN?

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by boutros23 on Dec 17, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope. Sadly.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 17, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

You are a treasure.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 17, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

O my I have Tim and Rask I just kick back.

O my I have Tim and Rask I just kick back. My other pair Halak and Eiott, life is grand. Added a chap Bachman newby in big D. Team way over all, solid 1st place all season. I dealt OV early for Zetterburg and dealt Vokes early for Halak. Glad Stl good this year darkhorse.

by Bobby Baby on Dec 17, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Ooh, shit. Couturier hit by a shot. Right in the head.

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by boutros23 on Dec 17, 2011 1:55 PM EST reply actions  

Any chance that’s not a concussion? Brutal.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 17, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know how it couldn’t be.

by Aliceanna on Dec 17, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Horrible. He looked very dazed.

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by boutros23 on Dec 17, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Hell of a period of hockey.

by Aliceanna on Dec 17, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

So… odds he returns to the game?

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by Rob Parker on Dec 17, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I say no way.

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by boutros23 on Dec 17, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I don’t see that happening.

by Aliceanna on Dec 17, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

NHLFlyers Philadelphia Flyers

INJURY UPDATE: #Flyers GM Paul Holmgren announced that Sean Couturier will NOT return to the Flyers-Bruins game due to a head injury.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 17, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

From the Flyers
INJURY UPDATE: #Flyers GM Paul Holmgren announced that Sean Couturier will NOT return to the Flyers-Bruins game due to a head injury.

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by boutros23 on Dec 17, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

They’re just trying to send out misinformation.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 17, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s scary. Hit the helmet, but still…not good. Geez, at this rate, the Flyers might be able to ice an all-concussion team all on their own. Amazing how dead quiet it got there.

by Aliceanna on Dec 17, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn’t see the strike in question, but Mike Green was hit in the helmet last year, and yes it was a concussion.

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by gfcaps fan on Dec 17, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

That was the Pens game on Super bowl sunday. I was there and saw the whole play come together and damn it was ugly.

by JbCapsFan on Dec 17, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

It was similar to Green’s. Couturier turned his head, so it hit right behind the ear. He went down immediately and stayed down, longer even than Giroux did the other day. Looked really shaky when he got up.

by Aliceanna on Dec 17, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

And it looks like I’m not going to see the rest of the game either. Time for a Costco run.

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by gfcaps fan on Dec 17, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Turris to Ottawa accdg to Bob McK

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 17, 2011 2:04 PM EST reply actions  

@SunGarrioch …Turris now a Senator for young Swede David Runblad and a 2nd round pick.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 17, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously? Wow Brian Murray, wow. That is some brutal asset management. I get that Runblad hasn’t been great, but he’s still young, very talented, and then you hang a 2 on it? Add in the fact that they sent a First to get Runblad, and STL used that pick to take Tarasenko… that is a great example of turning something into something much less valuable.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 17, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Why reaction was surprise Phx/Maloney got that much.

Thanks for the reminder, I didn’t think Ottawa had drafted Rundblad. Was that trade simply Rundblad for the pick?

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 17, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, it was a draft day trade, Runblad for I think the 16th overall, which STL used on Tarasenko. So follow the asset-arc and you get Tarasenko and a 2 for Turris. Nice.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 17, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, I have now, just didn’t recall the details if it was 1 for 1, but looks that way.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 17, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I’m higher on Turris than you are, but I don’t think he’s worth a first and a second.

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by Whiter Mage on Dec 17, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

What do you like about Turris?

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by Rob Parker on Dec 17, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he’s a skilled player who could still pan out to be a pretty good 2C (But not quite a 1C, similar to Marleau, who could probably be a 1C but has Joe Thornton in his way). I don’t like his attitude, but he’s not a bad player, and I think behind Spezza as a 2C he’ll be fairly productive.

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by Whiter Mage on Dec 17, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember doing a quick query on H-R and the list of “comparable” guys (points/goals/age IIRC) was a few busts but mostly 2nd line types.

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by red army line on Dec 17, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean, I’d be pissed if the Caps offered a first and a second (basically) for him, especially since I think we have better options in the pipeline, but it’s high-risk high-reward to Ottawa, I think. He’ll either pan out and be fine, and then the trade will only look slightly bad (I’m not really high on Rundblad) or he’ll blow and it’ll be a major bust.

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by Whiter Mage on Dec 17, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Adorable

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by Aliceanna on Dec 17, 2011 2:05 PM EST reply actions  

Kid has his priorities in order. Just preparing for 2012.

by discuit on Dec 17, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Here comes Bob.

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by boutros23 on Dec 17, 2011 2:29 PM EST reply actions  

Another PPG for Boston. 5-0. Cue the “adversity” storyline on 24/7.

by Aliceanna on Dec 17, 2011 2:30 PM EST reply actions  

Thomas has been amazing this game.

by Aliceanna on Dec 17, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

So Coyle heads to Saint John and another Saint John player and Wild prospect signs his ELC, Zach Phillips. Still curious why Coyle didn’t sign with the WIld and go to the minors (like former BU player Bourque, it was possible) instead of going to the Q.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 17, 2011 2:33 PM EST reply actions  

That was the, what? 6th fight? 7th? Biggest of the night, though, it seems.

by Aliceanna on Dec 17, 2011 2:46 PM EST reply actions  

Lucic got a major for the hit, too. wow.

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by boutros23 on Dec 17, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

After the hit on Miller, I suspect this will lead to a suspension. Kudos to Rinaldo for getting up and fighting.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 17, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Afternoon, folks…quite a flurry of NHL news this afternoon! I haven’t even quite digested the Coach Milbs news yet. What a mess he is.

And no Varls is some sort of Sacco misdirection, yes? Suck on that, AHater.

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by bigonetimer on Dec 17, 2011 2:56 PM EST reply actions  

Anything more on Milbury than an NBC suspension? Will he be on HNIC tonight?

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by STLSpidey on Dec 17, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Never mind. Feel bad for the kid, but this news is great for hockey fans across the globe.

Analyst will not appear on HNIC, NBC Sports broadcasts for immediate future

More here.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 17, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Outstanding. Indefinite suspension is fitting.

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by bigonetimer on Dec 17, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

You have to pull him, even if it turns out to have been nothing. You don’t have to fire him until it all works through the system.

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by gfcaps fan on Dec 17, 2011 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

from Kevin Paul Dupont

Just spent 2 hours interviewing Mike Milbury.

Milbury’s account of alleged assault—his part in pulling two youth players apart in skirmish—in Sun. Boston Globe (boston.com).

Milbury not working CBC studio tonight. Mutual decision.

Milbury: 12-y-o son victim of verbal abuse/bullying over two-plus hours of game, pre-shootout. Eventually, pulled bully away from son.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 17, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

This isn’t the way Milbury should be taken off the air. He should be taken off the air because of what he says on the air.

This kind of stuff wasn’t all that uncommon when I was playing (though 12 years old is pretty young). I can think of several instances that would have been a much bigger deal if the parent involved was as famous as Mike Milbury. I’m obviously not a huge fan of his, but I hope this doesn’t turn into a witch hunt.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 17, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

His popularity makes it a witch hunt, but, if reports are true, I can tell you I’ve seen nothing like it in over 10 years associated with youth hockey. It is the job of the refs to separate the kids, not him. He should be on the bench.

Are you saying it was common for a coach to yell at an opposing player or curse at a parent? Not where I’ve coached.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 17, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Really? You’ve seen nothing? St. Loo must be tame.

I was involved in a full on brawl between my team and the opposing parents. We shut the door to the ice so their players were stuck on the ice while we fought their parents (17 years old).

One of my best friends was assaulted after the game and his dad fucked the kid up. It was awesome. As we were walking to the locker room the other kid swung a stick at my friend’s head and so his dad jumped in and dropped the kid with like two punches (17 years old).

And then in a game I wasn’t a part of the coach (former NHLer) grabbed a kid’s face mask in the handshake line and was charged with assault. There was a big deal made about it and when everything came out it turns out the kid had spit at the coach, and tried to spit again, so the coach just grabbed the face mask to avoid being spit at again. I’d just like to see all of the facts come out. Did he actually punch the kid?

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by Rob Parker on Dec 17, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

(My involvement on the brawl was limited to breaking it up/protecting a teammate. My dad was watching and would have dropped the hammer if I swung at an adult. But several of my teammates did really fuck up the opposing parents, including our goalie who threw a series of blocker punches.)

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by Rob Parker on Dec 17, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

bet that bus ride home was….something.

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by bigonetimer on Dec 17, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha, it was local enough that we all had cars. It was a crazy experience. Cops were called, lots of drama. We were quarantined in our locker room for a long time after it all was settled. Another fight still almost broke out in the parking lot. Their parents were mostly to blame for how it all started, and they took the worst of it. I can’t remember any of my teammates being hurt, but I know they had a few parents leaving bloody. I remember one kid on my team saying “have fun explaining to your wife how you got beat up by a 17 year old.”

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by Rob Parker on Dec 17, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Well – that reminds me. Last year, our team was escorted out of a rink. One of the opposing players was yelling racists comments at our one African-American player all game. One of their kids ended up swinging at our players on the bench, while he was on the ice. Our coach broker it up. Their parents then came down to our locker room after the game to say our coach touched their kid. We waited as a team, to be escorted out by cops.

Of course – my son, decides he has to pee right then. By the time he’s done, the entire team is gone. We got through fine, but learned from the police that it was the second time in two weeks they’d been called out to the rink. Amazing what you find in Illinois compared to Missouri.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 17, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

You midwestern boys are downright gentlemen.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 17, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve not seen that in Illiinois, but depending on where you were, I can believe it. I’ve had issues in Missouri too, namely Southwest Missouri.

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by Whiter Mage on Dec 17, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m racking my brain and haven’t come up with anything similar. I’ve seen kids swing a stick like a baseball bat and hit another in the head. I’ve seen parents threaten refs. I’ve seen coaches threaten refs and parents. I’ve not been part of a brawl between our teams.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 17, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve been in a brawl that got so out of hand that they turned the lights out on the ice, but that didn’t involve adults. Long Island has a pretty dirty reputation though, so I’m sure that has a lot to do with it. I’ve definitely seen some insane behavior.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 17, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Long Island hockey is teeming with douche bags.

Release the Mackan!

by Killer_Carlson on Dec 17, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s a wonder that Milbury didn’t stick there longer.

/rimshot

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by STLSpidey on Dec 17, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Lousy with ’em.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 17, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

While I myself was cuffed by an opposing coach – I had given him the finger after he complained about some aspects of my play – in an understandable reaction, I have to disagree here. Adults just can’t put their hands on children who are not their offspring.

Period.

With his high profile, this gets more media attention than the average guy would get. But if he did what he’s alleged to have done, the response is appropriate.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 17, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

In all seriousness, I hope your coach benched you or suspended you for that, assuming he saw. Unacceptable on my teams.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 17, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Equally appropriate: that coach gets the gate from the league for good.

No touchy. Period.

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by bigonetimer on Dec 17, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

So how about when the kid spits in the coach’s face? Does he get to grab the facemask to prevent more spitting? Or does he just have to take it?

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by Rob Parker on Dec 17, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m ok with what the coach did in that instance. I would do the same.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 17, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

If it’s self defense, that’s different; I’m talking about initiating any contact with a kid. Coach knows when things are escalating well before any loogie gets launched and should step away.

And the spitter gets the gate too, btw.

Cross check and all call.

by bigonetimer on Dec 17, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

@helenenothelen: Darryl Sutter has been hired as the Kings’ next coach and will take over on Tuesday.

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by boutros23 on Dec 17, 2011 3:20 PM EST reply actions  

All that’s left is immigration paper work.

They tuk are jaaaaaahb.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 17, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Be pretty humorous if he didn’t get his work visa for precisely that reason. INS saying that there are plenty of US Citizens that could do that job.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 17, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

“We have more than enough coaches that could get the LA Kings to not make the playoffs, thanks though.”

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by Rob Parker on Dec 17, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Hope the nets are secured down in Phoenix:

@reporterchris Chris Johnston
The #coyotes recall goaltender Justin Pogge from the AHL.

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by bagace on Dec 17, 2011 3:55 PM EST reply actions  

Reminder – with some great John Walton commentary.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 17, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmm. And one more.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 17, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

Justin Pogge has LOST HIS MIND!

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by boutros23 on Dec 17, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Pogge’s PIMs that game match Holtby’s totals to date this season, 22

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 17, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder what Micflikier’s version of that game story would be like. Ha.

Also possible there are some good stories about him in the Caps locker room, Pogge was teammates with Alzner and Schultz in juniors.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 17, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Does anyone know how often Halpern has played RW in his career versus C?

by seanconore on Dec 17, 2011 5:23 PM EST reply actions  

Didn’t he do it a lot for us every now and then in his first tenure here?

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