Monday Caps Clips: 'Yotes @ Caps Game Day
by EmilyB on Nov 21, 2011 6:42 AM EST
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- Previews of tonight's dangle with the desert dingoes from Vogs, NHL.com, Peerless, RMNB, Caps Basketball, @BizNasty2point0, and RtR, and be sure to check out our SB Nation partner Five For Howling for more coverage from the other side of tonight's match-up.
- Notes and assorted whatnot from yesterday's practice:
- A scheduled off-day became a mandatory practice. [Caps365 video (Kettler Report, Boudreau, Laich, Ovechkin), WaPo, CRtC]
- And hey, a new face in the crowd! Welcome to the National Hockey League, Dmitry Orlov. [@WashCaps, RMNB, DCEx, WaPo, WashTimes, PHT, Hershey Bears, SB Nation DC, Two Minutes of Kill (pics)]
- So, um ... why is Alexander Semin wearing that white fourth-line practice sweater? [DCEx, WaPo, WashTimes, PHT, KOL]
- Yes, Mike Green was at practice. But he was watching from the bench, and not wearing gear. Gulp. [WashTimes]
- The Week That Was, Volume Six. Ugh. [Peerless]
- The debate over Bruce Boudreau continues apace. Sure, if he stays there could be trouble. But if he goes there could be double. [Puck Daddy, RMNB]
- In which the team members stand up for their coach. [CSNW]
- And then we learn they had a players-only meeting prior to the Toronto game, which, judging from the final score, may not have accomplished much. [WashTimes]
- Related: the room is showing a lack of cohesion. [WashTimes]
- Is there a conflict between the coach and Alex Ovechkin? [WaPo]
- A little Sunday soul-searching. [Dump 'n Chase]
- Where do we go from here? [Rocking the Red in Pittsburgh]
- This line-shuffling business is getting a bit out of hand. [Blonde Girl's Guide]
- The debate over Bruce Boudreau continues apace. Sure, if he stays there could be trouble. But if he goes there could be double. [Puck Daddy, RMNB]
- In the midst of all the sturm und drang, photographer Pat Molnar has posted some simply smashing pictures of Ovechkin in Moscow (from his Bauer shoot(s)), as well as pix of Nicklas Backstrom in DC, also for Bauer. [Pat Molnar Photography (Ovi, Bäckis)]
- Along those lines, Upper Deck features Alex on the cover of its new release and includes a pretty neat card from the Winter Classic. [Ross Hollebon's Sports Pub]
- Looking to the Caps' future:
- Evgeny Kuznetsov reports he has received the requisite entry-level contract from the Caps, and that all that remains is for his signature, which he is not prepared to provide just yet. [Alex Ovetjkin]
- The latest look at the Caps' prospect pool. [Hockey's Future]
- And finally - Welcome back to hockey, Sidney Crosby (and may your return inspire all of those in need of a little inspiration. Ahem).
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At the moment, Boyd Gordon has as many points as Alexander Semin (9), as many goals as Brooks Laich (3), more game-winning goals (1) than Alex Ovechkin (0), has a better shooting percentage (11.1%) than Mike Knuble (7.4%), has more than twice as many blocked shots (31) as any Caps forward (Laich: 14), and would rank third on the Caps in plus-minus (+7).
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by ThePeerless on Nov 21, 2011 7:12 AM EST reply actions 9 recs
Uplifting way to start the week…
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Oh come one man. I was excited about tonight, thinking the caps are going to be turning the corner and the first think I read this morning is this. It Isn’t helping one bit.
Should I tell him that Bissonnette has more GW goals than Ovechkin, Semin, Knuble, and Laich…combined?
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by ThePeerless on Nov 21, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
But does he have more than Johansson?
Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.
by Davethecapsfan on Nov 21, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Well, on the other hand, Bissonnette has more than Sidney Crosby, too
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by ThePeerless on Nov 21, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Oh come one man.
Semin joke?
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by Bald Pollack on Nov 21, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
Don’t forget the great Fleischmann… he’d be at the top of our board
by Tommy Williams on Nov 21, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
“Dangle with the desert dingoes”
We also would have accepted:
“tussle with the torrid terriers”
“hullaballoo with the hell hounds”
“scrum with the sizzling salukis”
“fracas with the fevered foxhounds”
“confrontation with the calescent chihuahuas”
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 21, 2011 7:16 AM EST reply actions
With the juxtaposition of the Hockey Futures article and the fact that Kuznetsov is still waiting to sign, how do I feel about the Caps future as a result?
Rocking the Red for teams on the banks of the Potomac and at the Gateway Arch and Singing the Blues about Hockey.
Hey, Smails was clutch. That was a big time putt he sunk before Spackler blew up the course and got Noonan/Czervik/Webb the victory.
Never count out the ol’ Billy Barroo.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 21, 2011 8:13 AM EST up reply actions
He’s sentenced boys younger than Kuznetsov to the gas chamber. Didn’t want to do it. Felt he owed it to them.
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by J.P. on Nov 21, 2011 8:16 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Kooz….“I planned to go to the NHL after my contract was up, but it looks like my folks won’t have enough money to send me to Washington.”
Judge Smails: “Well, the KHL needs ditch diggers, too.”
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Too late on the ditch diggers.
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It’s easy to grin
When Kuznetsov comes in
And you’ve got the Southeast beat
But the man worthwhile
Is the man who can smile
When Ovi’s pants get too tight in the seat
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 21, 2011 8:46 AM EST up reply actions 9 recs
Bartender: Another Rob Roy, Mr. Ovechkin?
Ovi: You never ask a Russian man if he’ll have another drink. Because it’s nobody’s God damn business how many drinks he’s had already. Am I right?
Smails: Wrong! You’re drinking too much your excellency.
Ovi: Excellency, fiddlesticks. My names Alex, and I’m just a man, same as you are.
Smalls: You’re not a man. You’re The Great 8. For God Sakes!
Ovi: There is no God.
The debate over Bruce Boudreau continues apace. Sure, if he stays there could be trouble. But if he goes there could be double. [Puck Daddy, RMNB]
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Love the rhyme and conciseness, Emily. Brilliant.
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Great Clash reference, Em.
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It was perfect, no?
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by Christoph J on Nov 21, 2011 8:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
You really should respect your elders more ;).
by Rather Bengt on Nov 21, 2011 9:02 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
OK, another thought experiment. Let’s say Boudreau came into this year with a new behind-the-scenes accountability. Mightn’t the team go through an adjustment period as the new focus is imposed? Mightn’t that look a lot like what we’re seeing right now?
I think it’s always useful to remember that we don’t know what’s happening in the room. The test is, as always, in the games.
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I can’t remember the last time I was this uptight about going to a game.
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I can’t remember the last time I was hesitant to buy cheap tickets for a game because I was fearful they might lose and it’s easier to be annoyed and mopey about a loss at home rather than on the lawless wasteland that is the Gallery Place metro station.
I’m not looking forward to the 4-3 loss tonight whether I watch at home, at a bar or at the game.
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I’m not sure I follow. But I will say that when you have a guy who’s been here roughly six minutes (Brouwer) saying, “Sometimes I think we did maybe too good of a job of moving on; we didn’t learn from our mistakes from the game before,” that’s about as close to “there are guys who just don’t fucking listen” as anyone’s going to come. If everyone was on the same page behind-the-scenes, I don’t think you get quotes like that or team meetings and the like.
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by J.P. on Nov 21, 2011 8:52 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
I guess what I’m getting at, is that for 3 and a half years, those same guys haven’t been listening and the team’s found a way to have regular season success working around that fact.
If this year, Boudreau isn’t accepting that anymore, mightn’t you expect some rough games at the beginning as the team stops just working around the guys who are not on the same page and starts to integrate them, kicking and screaming, into a system that requires them to be on the same page? You might lose a few games ugly as you stop enabling them and working around them.
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by Gould Old Days on Nov 21, 2011 9:02 AM EST up reply actions
That makes some sense, but I’d expect to see more on-ice signs that these guys are freelancing less or at least trying to commit to the system. For example, I’d accept Ovechkin skating his ass off but going to the wrong spot on a backcheck under the auspices of “it’s new to him” (remarkable as that would be unto itself). But when we see him not in the right spot seemingly because of effort, it rings a little hollow.
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JP you’ve got a young kid, I think it’s the exact same as when a kid fights the rules in whatever way they can. How else is he going to be rebellious other than to not put in the effort to be in the right spots and not buy in when on ice? If BB can stay consistent and show that they won’t get away with this then they should come around and buy in.
Well, my kid can’t get me fired.
If AO doesn’t take to Boudreau’s changes, it’s because he doesn’t believe in Boudreau or he doesn’t place a high priority on winning.
And what does it say about the situation when the guy with the “C” on his sweater might need to “be rebellious”?
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I think it says more about the guy with the C then it does about anyone else. I think Friedman’s take of getting BB, AO and GMGM in a room and working it out is absolutely what needs to happen.
AOis clearly a world class talent and isn’t going anywhere
BB is a good coach and there’s nobody immediately available that I would consider an upgrade (argue if you like but this isn’t by accident)
He recorded more wins (184) in his first 300 NHL games than any coach in NHL history and his .679 career winning percentage is the best of any coach in league history with at least 250 games of experience.
GMGM is making the changes needed and I think he’s done a great job.
So nobody is going anywhere. Sit down and work this shit out because AO and BB are to talented to not make this work.
Regular season success only counts when there is postseason success. Andy Reid has a better winning % than Chuck Noll, but no one really ever argues that Andy Reid is a better coach than Chuck Noll.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 21, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
Yea, but how many of those wins came by the gimmick? Counting his wins in the shootout to give him the most wins in his first 300 is akin to counting Marty B’s shootout wins when he passed Roy for total wins.
Just sayin’.
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you play within the rules that you’re given. Who is to say that those games would not have been won in a traditional overtime?
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You have three possible outcomes: win, lose, tie. Doubt that all of the shootout wins would have ended as Caps wins in the old format.
I understand that you play within the rules you’re given, but to give Bruce the mantle of champ with most wins over first 300 games without considering the gimick wins really does slant the playing field his direction.
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08/09 – 4 SO wins
09/10 – 5 SO wins
10/11 – 5 SO wins
in 07/08 there were 4 SO wins but I don’t know the breakdown before/after the coaching change so I’ll just split it and give him 2 in 07/08.
I searched but I cannot find a listing of the current “wins at 300 games” list of NHL coaches.
by Beakers Lab on Nov 21, 2011 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
all 4 07-08 SO wins were under Bruce
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ok so 9.5% of his wins are from the gimmick
by Beakers Lab on Nov 21, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
I’d expect to see more on-ice signs that these guys are freelancing less or at least trying to commit to the system. For example, I’d accept Ovechkin skating his ass off but going to the wrong spot on a backcheck under the auspices of "it’s new to him" (remarkable as that would be unto itself). But when we see him not in the right spot seemingly because of effort, it rings a little hollow.
And this is making me think more about it too, in light of TEB’s piece. Let’s say you’re Boudreau. You’ve told other players to “cover for” Ovechkin in the past. And now you’re telling them not to cover for the guy anymore because he has to play like everyone else. And, of course, you’re telling him the same thing, but he’s just not doing it. He’s not adjusting. So there’s this huge defensive hole out there that others used to fill that they’re not filling anymore. And everyone’s despirited and demoralized about the whole situation.
Wouldn’t that look a lot like the last two games? What if you throw in the possibility that Ovechkin is honestly making an effort, but having a real hard time and getting frustrated and angry that he can’t play basic hockey as well as a 3rd liner anymore with his new responsibilities.
I’m not saying this is how it is. I’m saying this is consistent with what we’re seeing. But other things are consistent with that too. We just don’t know.
But if this is the situation, then there’s reason for hope. I honestly believe that Ovechkin is smart enough and dedicated enough to change his game. He desperately wants to win. But change is hard for anyone. And it can look real ugly when it’s happening.
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by Gould Old Days on Nov 21, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Do you think it would be easier for OV to adjust (particularly defensively) if he were having more success offensively? Perhaps the resistance is in struggling to get back his scoring mojo. I would think that if you’re used to the success that he’s had in scoring that not having it would kinda overshadow almost everything else. He’s thinking about it all the time, and that’s pushing the other stuff to the side in is head.
by kingbonehead on Nov 21, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
We just don’t know.
And that’s why being a Caps’ fan/analyst is as challenging as say, being a Kremlinologist during the Cold War.
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I agree with this. I think you’ve got some players (cough, Alex yeah both of you, cough) who have been coddled and never really been challenged and I’m guessing they are not particularly happy about the sudden set of rules and restrictions being placed on them.
They’ve been allowed to get away with everything and anything for 4 years now. So that’s on Bruce and the coaching staff. On the other hand—do they want to win, or do they want to keep doing what’s comfortable?
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I don’t disagree with that at all. I think BB has realized that he’s gone as far as he can with them in the happy go lucky scheme and is making changes to try to correct it and is getting resistance. As long as he stays consistent I think it will turn around and we will see a better team for it.
I hope so, I really do. Suddenly, I feel like there’s a handful of guys on this team holding everyone back. The other night, I was all ready to buy into the “Time for a coaching change” line of thinking. Now…..I’m not so sure as I was Saturday.
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by RedBirdie on Nov 21, 2011 9:49 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Mightn’t we, the fans,teamgo through an adjustment period as the new focus is imposed?
Applicable to us too?
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I’d like to begin the adjustment away from thinking that the team is playing like crap tonight, but that would require the team to refrain from playing like crap tonight.
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by Gould Old Days on Nov 21, 2011 9:06 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
It could get ugly. (Wile I generally would avoid such obvious references, it needed to be said).
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by Acer Jonesy's Laughker on Nov 21, 2011 9:16 AM EST up reply actions
I’m surprised more isn’t being made of the Tarik piece on the disconnect between Ovie and Boudreau. This is a HUGE story. A lot of folks have speculated on it but never before have we seen a reporter matter-of-factly state that Ovechkin is being told to make certain adjustments on defense, in the offensive zone and that he’s simply ignoring them.
Boudreau’s job security aside, this is a huge indictment on the Captain.
Agreed on all counts (and I thought the piece a little bombastic).
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by D'ohboy on Nov 21, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I’ll defer to S h a g g y on this one.
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BB: But your game seems to be stuck…
Ovi: It wasn’t me.
BB: The stat guys say it isn’t all luck…
Ovi: It wasn’t me.
BB: I tried to bench you against the Ducks…
Ovi: It wasn’t me.
BB: You even called me a fat fuck…
Ovi: It wasn’t me.
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by Scott in Shaw on Nov 21, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
Ha . Ovi youre my angel, youre my danglin angel…
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Coach Bruce Boudreau must reconnect with the Washington Capitals’ locker room, beginning with Monday’s game against the Phoenix Coyotes. That process starts with getting on the same page as Alex Ovechkin.
He lost me right there. Reconnect with the room? Are they disconnected, or is the problem with getting some players — the ones who have to be the best ones every night — “connected?”
And if might be splitting semantic hairs, but Boudreau needs to get on the same page as Ovechkin? The way it’s stated, Ovechkin is on the “right” page, and Boudreau needs to get there. I’m guessing there is a page out there on which both of them had better find themselves, or else Boudreau will be out of a job (not for long), and Ovechkin could diminsh both his legacy and his chances for ever winning a Stanley Cup (after all, he’s not getting younger any more than his fellow travelers are).
Sometimes I detect a little “bomb throwing” in his style.
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Sometimes I detect a little "bomb throwing" in his style
Likely intentional. Not being the beat reporter gives you that ability. And better coming from him than from Mike Wise.
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Right – because he is actually connected.
And I’m not saying this is the case here, but if the team wanted something out there, there’s a good chance they’d give it to TEB to get out there.
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And I’m not saying this is the case here, but if the team wanted something out there, there’s a good chance they’d give it to TEB to get out there.
Interesting. Never looked at it from that perspective. If that’s the case, wonder what good, if any, might come out of it?
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by Christoph J on Nov 21, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
If this is a longstanding issue and GMGM doesn’t believe that Boudreau is at fault for not finding the right button to push then McPhee should have done more from an acquisitions standpoint to further strengthen the surrounding cast. Brouwer & Ward have been fairly solid and all but they still lack the skilled consistency and experience of a savvy veteran presence like a Fedorov. Those players aren’t easy to find but pilling on more youth and depth players isn’t going to work…not if your biggest developmental experiment is failing. Nothing against Brouwer & Ward but the top six remains pretty off from a consistency standpoint and that type of presence would be really helpful.
Really? We’re drawing the conclusion after not even 25% of the season that the off-season acquisitions weren’t sufficient?
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by STLSpidey on Nov 21, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Brouwer & Ward have been fairly solid and all but they still lack the skilled consistency and experience of a savvy veteran presence like a Fedorov.
I think it’s that they’re not as good as Fedorov was, plain and simple.
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by red army line on Nov 21, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Yea, to me that’s setting the bar unfairly high.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Nov 21, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
I seem to have spoken too soon about Wiseguy.
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I ain’t readin’ it.
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Yeah, I agree with much of that.
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The piece is believable for me because it matches what I see with my own eyes at the game.
Ovechkin trying the same moves over and over that don’t work? Check.
Ovechkin out of place on defense? Check
Ovechkin not trying on defense? Check
I wonder then the 8-10 guys got up to speak at the players meeting if this topic was raised.
I agree, and I wonder where Tarik is getting his info. If it’s from sources who wish to remain anonymous, he should say that.
You know this team has some serious issues if there actually is an anonymous source providing Tarik this info and wishing to remain so.
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Well to be fair the last player who suggested a young gun might not be as engaged as he could be wasn’t even on the team when he made the remark and was criticized to the point where he had to publicly apologize.
But Brads didn’t remain anonymous and IIRC it wasn’t exactly like he spoke exclusively to Tarik, no?
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by Christoph J on Nov 21, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
Didn’t Steckel speak to Tarik though when confirming Brad’s opinion?
by vtcapsfan99 on Nov 21, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
He might’ve. If so, I missed that.
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by Christoph J on Nov 21, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
dammed if I can find it, but I’m almost certain it was TEB who Steckel talked to. searching for the CI post.
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He spoked to one of the NJD’s beat writers, don’t recall if he spoke to one of the Caps writers as a follow-up.
found it! It was not a TEB exclusive, but TEB was at Kettler when Steckel said it.
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by Christoph J on Nov 21, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
thanks for the excuse to not do work.
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by Christoph J on Nov 21, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
I think Tarik is reaching on 8’s dissatisfaction with the move 30 feet closer to the net on the PP. And I’d like to see the source of this:
Ovechkin has said he feels more comfortable on the point.
Cross check and all call.
The other night Joe B. made reference to Ovi asking the coaches for more point time on the PP, fwiw.
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Somehow it just seems more “damning” for lack of better term when put forth as factual and in the format of bullet points and in print as opposed to Joe B making reference to it verbally. Maybe that’s just me.
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by Christoph J on Nov 21, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
Joe B making reference to it verbally
As opposed to by interpretive dance or something? I think you mean “orally,” there.
Sorry. Pet peeve.
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Duly noted — no need for apologies.
As opposed to by interpretive dance or something
I’d kill to see something like that from Joe B, btw.
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by Christoph J on Nov 21, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
damnit, what’s wrong with me today. format FAIL.
As opposed to by interpretive dance or something
I’d kill to see something like that from Joe B, btw.
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by Christoph J on Nov 21, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
I have received verbal warnings and written warnings… is that not correct..
Isnt Joe B verbally saying it different then TEB writing it?
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And yes, I’m anal about oral.
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by J.P. on Nov 21, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
You never go ATM!
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Then how do you get cash?
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That’s what she said?
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by Christoph J on Nov 21, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
OT
Reminds me of the old Woody Allen joke, “I came across a new oral contraceptive. I asked a woman to sleep with me. She said no.”
by Rather Bengt on Nov 21, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
I also found it in a Whyno article I linked in the clips comments thread last night. Whyno article was dated Nov. 18, just after Jets game.
Just read the Whyno article, and—without trying to split hairs here—it’s important to note that the way he wrote that section of the piece, he doesn’t quote Ovechkin on this point. Whyno is inferring here.
Alex Ovechkin has spent much of this season on the left wall and moving around the offensive zone, rather than at the point. Boudreau said it’s an effort to make Ovechkin harder to defend.
But Ovechkin feels more comfortable out there because of his experience. Boudreau’s willing to move guys around until something works. [emphasis mine].
Maybe I need more coffee.
Cross check and all call.
by bigonetimer on Nov 21, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
I saw that and wondered, but given that Joe B made a reference that Ovi said it during a game, I think you can assume that Whyno didn’t make that up on his own.
by vtcapsfan99 on Nov 21, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
Right. When Whyno, Joe B and Tarik all mention it—in the space of a few days—I guess I can buy that something was said. But it seems very counter-intuitive, and so I am searching for context.
Cross check and all call.
by bigonetimer on Nov 21, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
You wanted more being made of it, you got it.
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Love how that first bullet went from El-Bashir’s “more comfortable playing the point” to Greg’s “wants to play the point.”
I’m all done here.
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by bigonetimer on Nov 21, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Another reason why the Caps made a big mistake making AO captain. He’s not Sidney Crosby, he’s not Jonathan Toews, he’s not Mike Richards….
Well considering the Flyers feelings on Mike Richards, he could easily be Richards
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just don’t understand the logic behind giving him the C. What about Ovechkin shows leadership. Maybe leadership by example but that’s it.
Ovi is the franchise. It would be really hard to not give him the C. And they even did it after Crosby got his. It might have been even more distracting if they passed over Ovi. Could you imagine the “No trust in $10m Ovechkin” stories that would have popped out if they chose anyone else?
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Crosby, I think, wasn’t a great captain his first year. Maybe by his fourth.
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by red army line on Nov 21, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
That’s how I remember it as well. Growth comes with experience.
by capsyoungguns on Nov 21, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t like the part about AO’s ice time. He says that AO hasn’t publicly complained, but then goes on to speculate that it’s an issue causing the rift anyway. I know TEB has his connections, so maybe he heard it way off the record, but that part rubs me the wrong way. If this is all true, it’s a huge problem, but I’m still a little concerned this is just narrative.
Please, call me F&B.
I think I’d like Ovechkin to be upset at less ice time. Wouldn’t it be worse if he didn’t mind reduced ice time at all? The way TEB wrote it (“hard to believe he’s fine with skating 18 minutes 46 seconds per game”) is really how I’d want it to be.
by kingbonehead on Nov 21, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Sure, but there’s still a pretty wide gulf from there to a rift with the coach.
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I really disliked that part too. Pure speculation. And of course Ovi wants more ice time, every player does. But does that want become a distracting problem? So far we haven’t seen any signs that it has.
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I’m surprised more isn’t being made of the Tarik piece on the disconnect between Ovie and Boudreau.
Count me in the camp as well. At first I thought Tarik was being Tarik yesterday and dismissed it … sort of. But who else in the local press has reported things as if they were factual in the manner Tarik did?
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I think he developed a bit of a rep around these parts for the “players despise Michal Neuvirth” comment.
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While deservedly so for that one, he’s still far and away the best-connected member of the DC press corps that covers the Caps. I wouldn’t dismiss anything he writes.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 21, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Unless Erskine’s shoulder was more than a bit “bumped” in practice yesterday.
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After pairing Hammer and Sarge on Saturday night, I’m half expecting BB to sit Alzner tonight.
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by Carl Putnam on Nov 21, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
Right. Same surgically-repaired shoulder that forced him out of the game (and Laich onto the blueline) ~10 days ago?
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Only #Caps taking their option at the morning skate: Ovechkin, Ward, Wideman and Semin.
That’s new.
I was just going for that. Ward still sick? Wideman skates the big minutes, and he’s taken the option before. Ovi better be watching film….
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and Wideman’s said his right leg needs to be babied. No sense in skating this morning after playing every other night last week when there’s a game tonight.
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So Bruce tries to scratch Semin, but the hockey gods won’t let him. Interesting.
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Semin saw it coming earlier and put something in Ward’s food? ;)
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maybe the very real threat of being a healthy scratch will cause Semin to snap out of his funk.
by Beakers Lab on Nov 21, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
Unfortunately, it’s a mobius leaf and only has one side.
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by boutros23 on Nov 21, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Someone call PPP, Semin to the Leafs trade rumors are flying.
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wha?
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by BetterOffWith28 on Nov 21, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
Should be the last place he should want to go to. Media will eat him alive up there.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 21, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
A little too soon to be mentioning the word ‘leaf’ around here don’t you think.
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by Carl Putnam on Nov 21, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
Was scratching Semin now the right strategy? If I was going to scratch him, I might do it after a game where he legitimately earned his penalties. Boudreau also said Semin is working hard and he cares, so I don’t really know what to think about his handling of Semin. Why would you scratch someone who you thought was working hard and wasn’t having scoring luck?
by vtcapsfan99 on Nov 21, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
I’ve occasionally seen someone say how much they learned by watching from the press box for a game. Sure, being a healthy scratch would be a punishment, but cushion it with, “I want to you watch how the game unfolds from up there” and maybe there’s value.
Not that I’m condoning Ovi in the press box, but he’s spent some time there before, just not as a healthy scratch.
Don’t try to figure Sasha out. Just ride the wave.
Ward is sick, Wideman skates monster minutes, and Ovie and Semin are ridiculous.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 21, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
Ah, crap, not another Caps game. Not this soon.
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I have the exact opposite feeling. With each loss, the next chance to stop the slide can’t come quick enough.
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by J.P. on Nov 21, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I felt a little like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football before last game. “The Caps are going up against the goalie with the worst save percentage in the league! Toronto’s defense is hurting!” And then they pull the football away.
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I find I anticipate the next game even more when in the middle of a slide like this. A kind of “Okay, now we have another chance” feeling.
I like Laich, but I <3 Green
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by RockinRed4Life on Nov 21, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
For anyone who missed it over the weekend, as seen Saturday night and posted yesterday, Friedman mentions JP and the Rink right around/before the 5 minute mark:
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockeynightincanadaradio/coasttocoast/video/#id=2169087670
Worth watching for the mention, but also, Bman21212 screen captured the visual part and I can’t get it to work when I try to link to the specific post in yesterday’s clips.
tutorial please, I know I’ve been given this tutorial before, but how do I link to a specific post from other clips? I clicked on the time/date but that doesn’t work for me.
(There’s a FanShot on the shoutout, too, btw)
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hmm, I tried that and it didn’t work, weird. Thanks, I’ll try again.
Also, here’s the fanshot you referenced, which has the video link and the screen capture. Too subtle, I didn’t see it, which tends to happen with this reader when the picture is there without a title. Anyway, it deserves the attention here, too.
Gene and Paul would likely agree.
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by Carl Putnam on Nov 21, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
What kind of crowd reaction does Gordo get tonight?
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Gordo! Gordo! Gordo!
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by Christoph J on Nov 21, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
Muffins tossed onto the ice.
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by ThePeerless on Nov 21, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
If he plays a typical Boyd Gordon game, most may not realize he’s playing for awhile :)
I’m a fan, think most people appreciated his game or were indifferent. My guess is positive if anything.
Given his tenure with the team, I expect the Caps to mention it during a break in the first period as they have with some other players returning and Nashville recently did with Ward, but nothing more than that, if they do that.
I hope there is at least a small recognition. I wish he were still here but, hey, if Phoenix was throwing crazy money art me, I’d go to Phoenix, too.
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He’s a bit more noticeable nowadays with the increased ice time. Plus with Langkow being out, he’s playing with guys with a bit more skill than Matt Hendricks.
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by Carl Putnam on Nov 21, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
I look forward to his patented leap on the puck to win faceoffs style of play.
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5 bucks he gets whoop’d.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 21, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
You hit on my concern. Hope its just one or two drunk morons.
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by Carl Putnam on Nov 21, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
As someone who doesn’t whoop anyone and doesn’t understand the extension of whooping from specific dmen to every former cap, I sure hope not; still think indifference is more likely.
After that one time Glen Metropolit got whoop’d, I’m prepared for anything
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 21, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t attend practices once the season starts, only during camp, but decided to go yesterday. Thought it was interesting to see Beninati, May and Koken there on a Sunday for an unplanned practice…for those who attend, are they typically in attendance for non-game day skates?
Probably special circumstances considering what happened the night before. I know Whyno mentioned something on Twitter about being there like 3 hours after the plane got back
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 21, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
Ups and Downs are up. Read them if you dare. MWAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Sure “UPS and Downs” is a proper description?
I like Laich, but I <3 Green
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by RockinRed4Life on Nov 21, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Mehs and Downs.
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by CapitalCentre on Nov 21, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Talk about no ‘Green’
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by BetterOffWith28 on Nov 21, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Thanks to a Carl Putnam retweet: Coyotes roster news:
#Coyotes have recalled defenseman Maxim Goncharov from the Portland Pirates. Goncharov recorded 1-2-3 and 16 PIM in 16 games with Portland. (RichNairn9 Rich Nairn)
Thanks Sk8.
This is likely good news for the Caps. My guess is he’s being brought up because Rusty Klesla was likely hurt on a Patrick Kaleta shot on Saturday night. Yes, on an actual shot, not the usual cheap shots Kaleta is known for. Klesla has been playing great. David Schlemko and he have been the Yotes best D pairing this season
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by Carl Putnam on Nov 21, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Easier to call up a guy when he’s in the same time zone too. They may just be stashing him on the plane for the trip home.
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Possible. Coyotes play 3 games in 4 games when they return home.
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by Carl Putnam on Nov 21, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Whoops. Should have read 3 games in 4 days.
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by Carl Putnam on Nov 21, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
FYI for tonight;s contest – Coyotes have called up Maxim Goncharov.
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Don’t like injuries, especially head injuries, so I’m not making light of the circumstances, but is Mason missing time a bad thing at this point?
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#CBJ G Steve Mason sustained a head injury in morning skate when he was struck in mask by Rick Nash shot. G Allen York recalled from Springy
Atta boy, JP!
So my question is whether they’re presenting Sid with the Masterton prior to the game or if they’re going to wait ’til the 1st intermission.
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by gfcaps fan on Nov 21, 2011 11:47 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
no matter how badly the Caps get smacked around tonight, at least I will be at the VC and not having to watch the fawning lovefest.
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Likewise. Thankful. I think. I’ll get back to you on that later….
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and to add to all of this:
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Anders Nilsson gets 1st NHL start tonight for #Isles. Niederreiter and Comeau scratched, Ullstrom and Okposo in.
Okposo sat for the last three games.
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what that, their 4th goalie this season? Crazy.
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Yes. He played a few minutes in one game earlier and I believe they are the only team to have 4 goalies play actual minutes this season.
Not as crazy as Columbus’ goalie situation, although only 3 have played minutes.
Columbus’ whole situation is crazy.
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How many times has TSN already shown the video of Mario’s first game back. Goal and an assist as I recall.
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Pens lost that game.
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by ThePeerless on Nov 21, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
5-4 to the Flyers.
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With a young Dave Steckel in the audience.
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I was going with a more subtle “Stecks gave Mario cancer” angle, but that works too.
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by Bald Pollack on Nov 21, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
When it comes to all the media coverage of this game, another word that starts with “master” came to mind. Extra Kleenex required in the Canadian press area tonight.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Nov 21, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
quick, someone pass the brain bleach!
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I just spent some time doing my daily lunch time perusing of hockey sites. I swear if JP hadn’t posted that the Caps are playing the ‘Yotes tonight it would be difficult to convince me that there wasn’t only 1 game tonight and Crosby was going to play all 5 skating positions PLUS goalie and take over the scoring title race tonight.
Who’s thinking that early on in the game Crosby and DiPietro bump into each other, and both go on the LTIR for another 2-3 months?
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Nov 21, 2011 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
sadly, Ricky DiPi isn’t getting the start tonight.
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Cap situation – I’m struggling to understand why the beat writers thought there was a possible cap issue with the Orlov recall.
So as is being reported, CapGeek is estimating about 300,000 under cap utilizing 100% of Poti’s cap hit as LTIR space. The GP bonused cap hits being removed are less than 300,000.
Anyway, in simple terms, if the way the mechanics work 100% of Poti’s cap hit can be utilized now even though at the time he was placed on LTIR they weren’t in need of all 100%, which was my assumption, they have room.
Also, Beagle has already missed the 24 days and 10GP required to return after being on LTIR so they have his cap hit to work with, too, in the short-term. Last game played was 10/13.
(not just venting, I actually worked this up yesterday and mentioned it to a couple of people via email, just seems like the time to post with Whyno’s newest blog entry)
Also, Green’s clock re-set when he played in the 11/11 game. IF and I doubt they’d to it at this point, IF he was placed on LTIR, 10 games and 24 days would mean 12/7 would be the first game he’d be eligible to return.
I’m getting the same numbers that you are.
The most likely scenario, to me at least, is the beat writers not being 100% familiar with the ins and outs of the cap. When Whyno uses phrases like, “With Tom Poti’s $2.875 million hit not counting because of long-term injured reserve” (emphasis added) it gives me the impression that they know enough to function, but get into trouble when we’re looking at very tight-fitting puzzle pieces.
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He’s a prospect worth watching and there’s need for some good news around here this afternoon….a Philipp Grubauer update for those who missed it this weekend.
Grubauer won 2 games this weekend, his record is now:
8W, 1L, 1SOL
GAA: 1.59
Save Percentage: .945
He leads the ECHL in GAA and save percentage. Tied for second in wins.
Also, the beat writer (Miller) and some diehard fans have posted a number of very positive comments about his play, no surprise.
Here’s the latest blog entry by Miller.
Lucky for Phillipp he was playing a team this weekend whose goaltender was out of work this time last week.
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I’m more focused on the reviews of his play and his stats; also, comments about rebound control, confidence, etc.; yes, Sauer was in goal for Gwinnett, including the win on Friday night (Machesney in goal for the Stingrays) in Gwinnett before the two teams traveled to Charleston for the other 2 games of the 3 in 3.
(and to Sydtron’s comment below, yes, Grubauer missed the end of the season in the OHL (Kingston) due to mono. He played in 38 games last season, but his last game was in early February.)
As you should be. I was just throwing the tidbit in for good measure. If it had been any other ECHL team but Gwinnett I wouldn’t have had a clue who he faced.
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Speaking of goalies, CP, what in the name of Dwayne Roloson is going on with Mike Smith? I never thought I’d feel relieved he wasn’t being rolled out between the pipes vs the Caps, even these Caps.
Cross check and all call.
Sean Burke & Dave Tippett. Amazing what happens when you have a goalie coach and head coach who believe in you. What Burke has done with Bryz, Labarera, and now Smith is amazing.
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Chris Clark released from his PTO with AHL Providence (as reported on twitter and shown in the AHL transactions.) He played 6 games. Link to stats
Curious if this is it or if he’s getting ready to sign a contract with a team.
Of note, Providence plays at Hershey Wed. night.
how exactly does an in-season PTO work? Did Clark get his expenses covered during that time, but no other compensation?
I do hope he lands somewhere, with a contract.
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The contract is for a salary, pro-rated, from what I understand pro-rated on a daily rate. The AHL minimum salary for this season is 39,000 USD and for ECHL contract recalls loaned to AHL the minimum (or maybe that’s a set number? is $31,500, but I assume Clark was playing for more than that amount pro-rated. They sign a contract for a PTO of up to 25 games; they can sign another one once the 25 games by the team are up, it does happen from time to time.
Transportation to the team, plus some expenses are covered. Once there, per diem’s like other players, as I understand it when team is on the road.
Does BB make it to New Years behind the bench?
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Orlov – I asked Leone if Orlov had been playing on the left side recently because last year and earlier this season he was primarily playing on the right side (as a lefty shot) and there had been a one game experiment early in the season where they put him on the left and switched back after only 1 game. Was glad to hear he played on the left side in the most recent Hershey games in a pairing with Flemming.
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Glad to see him up, although I am sorry circumstances require it. He really can’t be worse than Erskine or Hammer at this point in terms odd man rushes since that seems to be the one major criticism of him. I hope he doesn’t replace Sarge because, although he is not playing great now, he at least has more of an upside than Hamr and Erskine. Actually, I am worried most about Carlson. He, too, is having an off-year. I was hoping he would have stepped up more in Greener’s absence.
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