Sunday Caps Clips: West Coast Sting
Your savory breakfast links:
- Recaps and other assorted musings on last night's loss from us, Caps365 video (Boudreau, players), Vogs, Capitals Voice, NHL.com (Woodley), WaPo (Carrera: gamer, blog), WashTimes (Whyno: gamer, blog, blog), CSN Washington (Gormley: gamer, blog; Beninati: blog), SB Nation DC, KOL, RMNB, DSP, and RLS (#fancystats) and from the Canucks' side, The Province (blog, gamer), Vancouver Sun (photos, gamer), Kurtenblog, and Nucks Misconduct.
- How 'bout that third period? Ugh. [CW (Whyno)]
- But we'll take a moment to savor Alex Ovechkin's 100th career power play goal anyway. [YouTube via @WashCaps_Rus]
- Earlier in the week, Christine Simpson of SportsNet.ca sat down with Alex for an interview. [SportsNet.ca (video) via FanShot]
- At least the Hershey Bears had a good game. Oh, wait. [Patriot-News (Leone), SHoE]
- Speaking of the Bears, Graham Mink explains how he helps to keep the "professional" in professional hockey at the American League level. [PA Puck]
- It was a slightly better night for Caps prospect forward Stanislav Galiev, whose Memorial Cup-winning Saint John Sea Dogs raised their championship banners and presented the championship rings. Oh, and they also blew out the Chicoutimi Sagueneens 6-0. [Pictures: One, Two, Three, Four, Five]
- Joel Ward looks back on his early hockey career and some of his coaches and mentors. [The Hockey News]
- Say, that ice in Edmonton is pretty slick. Is there a correlation between fast ice and extra hooking penalty calls? [Caps Outsider]
- Finally, happy 59th birthday to Ron LaLonde, happy 44th birthday to Pat Elynuik, happy 34th birthday to Ivan Ciernik, and hey there, happy 28th to Sean Collins.
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Happy Birthday, K_C!
Once you take the fisting element out, it's not romantic anymore.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Oct 30, 2011 11:29 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Thanks. Steelers gave me a hell of a birthday present.
Release the Mackan!
by Killer_Carlson on Oct 30, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Prospect Updates
While waiting for the game to start last night, pulled together some prospect updates, but was waiting for the last game in Alaska to finish, so here’s the update:
Caps G prospects
Did a quick search Friday and didn’t find any new updates on Steffen Soberg.
Brandon Anderson had another not so pretty start for Brandon Wheat Kings Friday night; he was pulled in his first home start (and was pulled in the previous game, too) and didn’t get the start Saturday, as one would expect.
Caps D prospects
Garrett Haar – with the assist last night on WMU’s (Slater’s) OT GWG and was +3 in the 3-2 win. He has 1g/3a and is +9 through 8 GP.
Patrick Koudys – even in a 4-1 RPI loss last night. Through 7 games, he’s even and has 1 goal.
Sam Carrier – 3g/10a/+3 through 13GP
Patrick Wey – Injured
Caps F prospects
Caleb Herbert – A 5 game point streak (3g/3a) for the UMD freshman ended with last night’s 1-0 win. Through 8 games, he has 6 points and is a +2.
Travis Boyd – He had an assist Friday night in Minnesota’s win over UAA; his second point and assist of the season. Looks like he played second line center with Larson on his wing in the 3-1 win last night. He’s +2 through 6 games.
Nick Larson – He has played in 5 games for Minnesota and has 0 points and is +1.
Greg Burke – UNH picked up 2 wins this weekend; Burke remains w/o a point and is -3 through 7 games; he played 2nd line center this weekend from reports and game summaries, as was expected from mid-week reports; he was -1 in the 5-2 win over Northeastern last night. Strange game with weather related power delays in the third period. (Note: two local prospects, Sorkin and Thrush are having good starts to their seasons at UNH; Thrush with 2 assists tonight and Sorkin has points in 5 straight games.)
Evgeny Kuznetsov – Through 18GP, he’s got 9g/4a. I know there have been updates about him on an on-going basis, so that’s the summary.
Stanislav Galiev – injured, see EmilyB’s clips for more on Galiev.
(NCAA player stats were pulled from the college hockey inc and USCHO website profiles and boxscores; Q stats from the Q site; Kuznetsov’s stats from KHL site)
by sk84fun_dc on Oct 30, 2011 11:55 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
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Collecting his ring, busted wing and all.
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Thanks for all the updates. Not a very impressive list of prospects but I’m not too worried about the lack of depth at forward in the Caps system right now since the team has a lot of forwards signed to long-terms deals and prospects like Eakin and Kuznetsov could replace guys like Halpern and Semin as soon as next year and besides forwards are always easier and cheaper to find. The lack of quality D prospects; however, is another matter and taking into account that they usually take a little longer to develop shouldn’t the Caps draft another top D pretty soon? I mean Orlov could replace Wideman next year but who replaces Hamrlik in two years, another free agent? Caps might be able to find someone like Hannan or Harmlik, an older/experienced FA at a reasonable price to play with Green or they could always trade for one (not the best option considering what they would have to give up to get one) so ideally you want to draft one now and hope that he’s ready in two or three years. There seems to be a pretty strong crop of defensemen available in next year’s draft so maybe the Caps can use COL’s first round pick to grab one, especially if it’s a mid first rounder because the BPA at that point might be a defenseman anyway.
Also, Bruins are in second to last place right now. If they continue to struggle throughout the season, the Caps could have a pretty high 2nd round pick next year.
Lobbies: Green, Carlson, Orlov
I wouldn’t worry too much about the lack of prospects in the pipeline right now. Orlov, Kuznetsov, and Eakin (not to mention Holtby) seem to grade out as NHL players and Galiev seems to have a chance. Counting chickens is dangerous, of course, but given the number of quality young players on the NHL roster, that’s not too shabby.
I do expect GMGM to re-stock the system a bit in the upcoming draft, and I expect he will continue to take the best players available. If the Caps need to replace a D or two (hopefully not including Mike Green), they will hopefully have a ready Orlov and can supplement in FA. I very much doubt the picks from COL/BOS will be in the lottery, but hopefully they’ll be in the middle of the round.
Also, D take longer to mature, so he may be best off just signing in FA. It’s highly unlikely he can draft a guy who, at 20-21, will be as good or better in his own end than Hamrlik.
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by red army line on Oct 30, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree that the Caps will have to sign another FA to play with Green in two years. I doubt anyone who is drafted next year will be ready to play alongside Green so quickly. It’s unfortunate that Green has never had a stable D partner in DC for more than two years.
Lobbies: Green, Carlson, Orlov
2011 is supposed to be D-heavy. From 2008, Doughty, Bogosian, Schenn, Karlsson, Myers, Carlson, Pietrangelo, Jake Gardiner, Luca Sbisa, Michael Del Zotto, Slava Voynov, Roman Josi, Travis Hamonic, and Marco Scandella are all NHL-caliber already, I’d say (that’s after 3 seasons of development) and have all already played in the NHL (save Josi, but Nashville goes slow with their D prospects usually). If this draft is anywhere near that the Caps should be able to draft two guys that turn into quality D rather quickly—the first one being NHL-ready within two years and the other within another two.
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by red army line on Oct 30, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
The Caps have graduated a few prospects and with Carlson and Alzner on the Caps roster and Orlov in Hershey, not sure how much worry there should be about the younger Dmen in the organization short-term. Sure it would be nice if there was a constant pipeline (like Nashville), but there are some prospects worth watching in the organization.
As you noted, they have a number of draft picks this next draft, but too early to project where those picks will be, IMO.
Unfortunately, I haven’t caught a full NCAA game yet this season involving Caps prospects; I have watched portions of some games and video clips of some of the goals/assists for some prospects.
Of the NCAA D prospects, Patrick Wey (junior at BC) has looked like he has pro prospects and Haar is wait and see, but he received positive reviews this summer at development camp. Hopefully Wey’s injury doesn’t impact his hockey/pro future (reports are it won’t, but wait and see, IMO.)
Haar and Boyd are young, as is Herbert, so it’s worth watching to see how they develop as all are playing their freshman college seasons.
It’d be nice to have a D pipeline like Nashville, but we also draft forwards so that’s not going to happen. And props for them doing well on a tight salary cap, but they play the most boring hockey I’ve ever seen.
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Should Nashville be our trading partner, in that case?
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I don’t think so. I reckon because of development curves good young forwards become expensive more quickly than young D. Given that the team is up near the cap and have young D already, the Caps need those cheap forwards.
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by red army line on Oct 31, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
What does everyone think of this proposed realignment scheme?
Obviously it’s not perfect, but what scheme will be. They’re at least on the right track.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Oct 30, 2011 12:16 PM EDT reply actions
I like it, especially if CBJ ends up in the new “NE” and the Wings in the new “Central”.
Also offers the option to go to traditional division names.
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by winterion on Oct 30, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
While the geographical alignment is actually pretty good, for the most part, I also am not fond of the uneven divisions. Now, if we could expand to two more teams in the NHL, then, I would be in favor of 4 8 team divisions. I would favor expansion except that the current economic climate for the US in general (and hockey in particular) does not support that idea.
Of course, the question is… will the Coyotes still stay in Phoenix for the long term.
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Quebec City
Kansas City
Boom.
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by Scott in Shaw on Oct 30, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I like that a lot. It is a little tough for Pitt to get stuck with a lot of the Northeast teams…but since you probably have to put the two NY teams in one division and NJ/Philly are more East Coast that’s how it is. That’s about the best they could do geographically.
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by Davethecapsfan on Oct 30, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know that you have to put all the NY area teams together. Honestly, NY is closer to the teams in that divison (other than possible CBJ). Throw a bone to PIT by putting them in place of, I don’t know, the Islanders? That pretty much pleases Washington, PHI, NYR, NJD and PIT. Might not please NYI, though.
The one real problem with the four division alignment, of course, is that you need two more teams to even it out.
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You can’t break up NYI and NYR. That’s even worse than breaking up PHI and PIT. I think just getting rid of geographic names is the best way to do it.
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Okay. I wasn’t sure, given the state of the Islanders lately. It will be interesting to see what finally happens. And oh yeah, what the hell they’re going to do about Phoenix. They really can’t vote on realignment until they know what’s happening there. What if they end up in Quebec? (Hopefully not.)
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My feeling exactly on the 4 division alignment — we need two more teams to make it work.
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Or two fewer…
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Good point. Even if contraction’s one of the last thing I want to see. It would feel like a defeat.
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I think I like the idea that a (gasp!) pens fan had in the comments on PD;
-move maybe Cbus, Pitt, and Buff to the red region
-NJ and the two NY teams up into yellow.
Can you imagine a conference with Wash, Philly, Pitt, Buff and Tampa in it? Then you have NYR, Bos, Tor, Mon in that “northeastern” division (4 original six teams, yadda yadda)
I would say overall I’m a fan of the 4 division format. The only thing is will teams bitch if they’re in a division with 8 instead of 7?
The safe word will be "hwiskey"
I could see that alignment as well.
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by Davethecapsfan on Oct 30, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the one McPhee mentioned at the Convention when asked about realignment and what was being discussed as to a possible 7/8 division team realignment and possible division opponents for the Caps.
From my perspective, the biggest issue is the 7/8 team divisions and how they make that ‘fair’. Even a crossover process for the 8 team divisions is difficult to make fair, but at a minimum something would have to be done regarding the last playoff spots.
As to the comment below about Phoenix specifically, one thing this realignment does is that it allows for some flexibility if a team like Phoenix needs to move. For example, if Quebec City got a team again, there’s room in the 7 team division to add an 8th team and the division Phoenix is slotted for goes from 8 to 7.
Stingrays update: after 7GP: 5W/2L
Grubauer has started 3 games and has 3 wins, including last night’s win at Elmira; link to goalie stats season to date
video from Elmira of Friday night’s game and a helmet throwing incident (craziness); Machesney in goal; hockey clips start with a little more than a 1 minute to go in the video; Saturday night’s win with Grubauer in goal; a little video at the start of the next clip showing the goals.
How about that johansson kid. Nearly 10 games in and has the team lead for goals tied with ovechkin. Good enough for T-13 in the league with hossa, kopitar, and others ( ugh jagr )
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by breaklance on Oct 30, 2011 1:55 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
Very pleased, but wish he was creating a little more with his linemates. Would like to see him setting up Sasha more often.
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I was just looking at this issue. In general, I think the 2nd line was playing well, but these last 2 games have not been Sasha’s best. He’s assisted on at least 2 of Mojo’s goals, but Mojo did not assist either of Sasha’s, and in fact has only 1 assist. I don’t know what the stats say, but it appears that that line starts a lot in the D zone, then the D have trouble breaking out if/when we win the face-off, hence rarely get down for much time in the O-zone before a shift change. The 2nd line has had some good shifts of sustained pressure in some games, but little to show for it. I hope it’s just a matter of Sasha getting his groove back. He needs to be scoring. He’s now below last season’s points in the first 9 games. I’m not sure Knuble is a good fit with him, but we’ll see.
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I’m really disappointed in Semin so far this season. He’s made some really nice reads defensively on the rush, but as a guy who typically starts hot, well, we haven’t seen that player, not even for a couple of games (I just recall one game). I think he’ll be better, but I hope that comes sooner rather than later, since the better he is, the more rigid BB can be in assigning matchups, not having to worry at all about who the 2nd faces.
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by red army line on Oct 30, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
This is not the only year he’s not started off hot. In 2007-2008, he was injured for most of the first two months, so his statistics were “off”. He did do better later in the season for the ultimately successful playoff drive.
In 2009-2010, he did pretty well the first month. But then November was a lost cause, when he had the wrist injury, tried to play through it, and not very well, and then finally went to the doctor and sat out.
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Yeah, when he scored the first goal of the first game of the season I thought he’d be going good. There have been flashes and good plays both O and D, but not enough conversion. I have gotten frustrated with that line some because they don’t seem to be able to get in the O-zone and stay there. Not sure if that’s on them or the D at times. He’s been in some good positions and I feel like he’s been at the net more. Do you think he needs to shoot more or what?
With the PK failing a bit, I wish BB would try putting him back on the PK again. He is good at it and as has been noted here before, it seems to improve his overall game. I’m also puzzled about his use or lack thereof on the PP at times. Last season for a time he had the most PPG and had the primary assist on a pretty nice one for Backs recently. Most of all he needs to be scoring whenever.
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Well Ovi/Backs/Brouwer/Green/D-Wides was doing pretty well.
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I’m chalking it up to sophomore status, how young playmakers don’t trust their wings enough and tend to shoot more than pass
Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."
Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.
by breaklance on Oct 30, 2011 3:15 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Except Mojo looks for Semin quite a bit on the ice…it just so happens Semin actually trusts him enough to pass it to him as well instead of trying to dangle through everyone. The goals for Sasha will come with Mackan assisting on them.
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by Davethecapsfan on Oct 30, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Binghamton at Hershey link to game summary info
- Holtby and McKenna in goal
- Mink returning from injury
- Godfrey playing for Binghamton
- Wellar, Potulny, Greentree, Richmond out with injuries
Let’s hope Hershey can turn it around today.
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Hershey won 3-2, Micflikier with a 3 point night. Captain Kane now has a 6 game point streak. Aucoin has a point in all but one game this season. Eakin with an assist. PK 3 for 3; PP with 2 goals. As Emily noted below, Orlov with some eye-opening plays; French did comment on another hip check Orlov tried to throw which I didn’t see or hear, but sounds like it didn’t work out as well and the timing/decision wasn’t as wise.
Watch for #28 at the 28-second mark:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P24vL96qlV0&feature=youtu.be
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But we’ll take a moment to savor Alex Ovechkin’s 100th career power play goal anyway.
Ovechkin is # 139 on this list. And he’s 26 years old. Which puts him at #18 on this list.
Mind you, he’s got all season to work his way up that second list, and nobody else on there does. It’d be pretty sweet to see him break into the top 10 of that list.
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The return of Ovie scoring any PP goals is nice. Getting him into shooting positions in the slot when the puck is on Nicky’s side has paid dividends twice already.
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by Davethecapsfan on Oct 30, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
In the “What We’re Reading” section, here’s a comment that Chuck Gormley of CSN made about Ovi:
It’s amazing how Alex Ovechkin can dazzle you with an unbridled passion on one shift and infuriate you with a selfish penalty on the next.
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Chuck has been on the Caps beat for ~2 months. This is only the Caps’ second loss in a previously perfect season, and the only time Ovi has had a game-altering penalty (though it was a bad one.) Gormley needs at least half a season under his belt before he can sit in judgement.
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While Bruce should certainly hold players accountable for bad play, if he benched every player who’s recently taken a bad penalty, there wouldn’t be enough guys available to dress.
Granted, Chuck didn’t explicitly suggest any particular “sanction” for Ovi but did say that Bruce should hold him accountable.
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Guy who’s been writing on hockey for more than two decades isn’t allowed to express an opinion like the rest of us?
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by Bald Pollack on Oct 30, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Not when he confuses his Alexes
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by Gould Old Days on Oct 30, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Orlov broke his stick on a one-timer, then blew up the Baby Sens forward with a hip check. Heh.
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by EmilyB on Oct 30, 2011 6:14 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
What's up with all of the high-scoring games?
9-8, 7-4? All-Star Game previews?
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Well, gang, as bad as last night’s game was, here’s a bit of history.
The game immediately before the Caps record setting winning streak in 2010 was a 7-4 loss in a game similar to yesterday. The Caps were on a road trip to Florida where they were playing Tampa Bay. They had gotten off to a 4 goal deficit where the goalie (Neuvirth) was pulled in favor of Theodore. They roared back to tie the game, only to lose it in the end 7-4. The next game was in Florida. Likewise, they fell behind by a bunch, saw the goalie pulled but they roared back to tie it and won it in a shootout. And that was the 1st win of the 14 game winning streak.
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