Tuesday Caps Clips: Panthers @ Caps Game Day
by J.P. on Oct 18, 2011 6:41 AM EDT
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- Previews of tonight's
alumni gamereunionepisode of Welcome Back Kottergame against the Panthers from Vogs, NHL.com (Hunter), SB Nation DC (Vingan), Peerless, KOL, RMNB and CRtC, and be sure to check out our SB Nation partner Litter Box Cats for more coverage from the other side of tonight's match-up. - News from yesterday out at Kettler:
- In general. [Caps365 video (Kettler Report, Boudreau, Ovechkin)]
- Michal Neuvirth's injury revealed: bruised right foot. He's day-to-day. [WashTimes (Whyno), CI (El-Bashir), DCEx (McNally), SB Nation DC (Vingan), DSP, RtR, CRtC]
- Don't expect tonight to be particularly emotional for Tomas Vokoun... [Caps365 (video), CI (El-Bashir)]
- ... who's adjusting to life on a decent team. [WashTimes (Whyno)]
- The team continues to not use the c-word when discussing Jay Beagle, but not everyone's buying it. [CW (Whyno), DCEx (McNally)]
- A slow start for Alex Ovechkin? Not so bad. A slump for Alex Ovechkin? Not so good. How to avoid the latter. (Good read.) [WaPo (El-Bashir), DCEx (McNally)]
- Bruce Boudreau and new Panthers bench boss Kevin Dineen have some history. [CW (Whyno)]
- Matt Bradley apologizes for his comments regarding Alexander Semin (though he doesn't exactly try to distance himself from the substance of those comments)... [Sun Sentinel, CI (Applebaum), CW (Whyno), DCex (McNally)]
- ... while some of Sasha's teammates are still somewhat upset about them. [CSNW (Gormley)]
- How will the Caps' former teammates be received by the Verizon Center crowd tonight? Polite applause all around, says I. [Capitals Outsider]
- Vogs says the local media shouldn't have made such a big deal about Nicklas Backstrom's recently concluded 20-game goal-less streak, and I agree - there are only five no-goal games in there that bothered me. [Dump 'n Chase]
- Jason Chimera did a hit on Elliot in the Morning yesterday. [DC101 (video)]
- A bit on the "other" ex-Panther, Dennis Wideman. [OFB]
- (Over?)analyzing the Caps' opening video. [Chirps]
- A few GoToSleepgate leftovers. [Sports Radio Interviews, CBC (Friedman), CI (Carrera, with a few more Caps-related thoughts), PHT]
- Remember that cool "minimalist" Caps logo? This girl will. Forever. [Capitals Outsider]
- Taking a closer look at Braden Holtby's first start of the season down on the farm. [Stack the Pads]
- Checking in with Garrett Haar. [USHL]
- What're the odds of job-related news breaking for two dudes named Jo(h)n Gruden on the same day? [USHL, B&C]
- Finally, happy 32nd birthday to Alex Henry.
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We are getting Florida after playing last night, which is nice, and we can only hope they don’t get nine power plays against us. Five of nine was not too shabby, eh?
What’s going on with Tampa Bay?
Hopefully the Kitties are tired from scoring so much. Regardless, they’re clearly not last year’s Cats.
As for Tampa… LOLoson.
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Boucher is taking a page from Bruce’s book about putting a positive spin on a negative, saying after the game that they won the game on 5v5, but they just didn’t execute on the PK. Technically true, but…..
Heaven help the PK folks at their next practice; he’s one scary dude.
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how long before the tough guy/hard ass things burns out on the players? Seems like you get 2-3 years out of that before players stop responding to it.
Ask Vinny and Marty – they’d know.
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They were on the ice the whole time?
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by Gould Old Days on Oct 18, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not sure he’s a complete hard ass, the players don’t seem to talk about him like he’s Mike Keenan or even Andy Murray. He seems to know how to relate to his players pretty well. I’m sure he can crack the whip when he has to, but I don’t get the sense it’s his go-to move.
Obviously, this is all speculation.
ok, I haven’t studied him enough to know one way or the other. He definitely has the scowl down from the bench of a hard-ass.
Yeah, he’s got the look. But the players say he’s incredibly thoughtful, and he is undoubtedly a sharp guy, so I doubt he doesn’t see the burn out risk of being a constant hard ass.
Obviously, this is all speculation.
And he’s done stuff like eliminate morning skate. I don’t think he rides guys just to ride them. I don’t think he’s in it for the power trip.
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by Gould Old Days on Oct 18, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s scarry, err, scary.
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by J.P. on Oct 18, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Miss you Lowly Worm!
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/OT
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Em posted this in OT Hocky last night. It addresses this very issue.
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/17/guy-boucher-is-getting-a-little-antsy/
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There is a reason why coaches and managers like Mike Keenan, Ken Hitchcock, Billy Martin, etc. get fired every 2-3 years. You can yell at folks to get their attention for only so often. After a while they begin to tune it out. Boucher hasn’t been in Tampa long enough for it to happen (yet) but it will.
Sometimes these sorts of coaches learn to ease up some (Tom Coughlin in football is a good example), but most get hired, have some quick success, even win a championship, and then they get tuned out and begin to fail…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Jesus, that’s some fancy porcine lipstick.
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When Steve Downie’s looking at you quizzically you’ve achieved something.
Side note: this is reminding me of some Al Pacino (I think) role, but I’m drawing a blank…
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by fat_daddyo on Oct 18, 2011 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
“Life’s this game of inches… the inches we need are everywhere around us…”
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
“we claw with our fingernails for that inch.”
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
“You’re out of order!” – …And Justice for All.
That'll make your weagle wink!
The pants that bind us should be left behind us.
I’d like to see Guy Boucher in Serpico.
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by J.P. on Oct 18, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
15 minutes and I’m the first to rec this brilliance?
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by Bald Pollack on Oct 18, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d like to see Guy Boucher as Charlie doing Serpico.
Unleash the Apathy.
by D'ohboy on Oct 18, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
“Attica! Attica!!”
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by ThePeerless on Oct 18, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
BOUCHERRAGE
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by hankthetank5503 on Oct 18, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I do believe this should be a Twitter hash tag: “#boucherage”
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Isn’t that the French term for DIY?
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by Gould Old Days on Oct 18, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Neil: “I think it means Peerless.”
J.P.: You might be the king of all geeks here…
by Alz Well That Ends Well on Oct 18, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
His face is so animated, it’s like a silent movie clip.
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by Sombrero Guy on Oct 18, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Ha. I could see splicing that with old-timey text while Maple Leaf Rag plays over it.
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With high class, turn of the century English, rather than the expected Boudreauian use of 4 letter words.
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by Sombrero Guy on Oct 18, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
With high class, turn of the century English, rather than the expected Boudreauianusecarpet-bombing of 4 letter words.
FTFY
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by AMusingFool on Oct 18, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
FTFY
You mean FFTFTFY
Translation: [Franceschetti]ing Fixed That [Franceschetti]ing Thing For You
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, when you surrender 5 PP goals and a shortie, you’re losing the specialty teams battle.
Rolo looks horrible. Maybe it’s just a blip or maybe he fell off a cliff. We’ll have to see.
They got red smoking hot at the right time last year, which was nice for them. I suspect the team as a whole has a bit of a “deep playoff run” hangover.
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Maybe a defense whose best “shutdown” guy is Eric Brewer and which is giving regular minutes to Marc-Andre Bergeron and Matt Gilroy really DOES suck? Boy, who saw that coming?
Unleash the Apathy.
Here’s hint…
five goals on 43 shots
five goals on 18 shots
seven goals on 33 shots
That’s Dwayne Roloson’s line in his last three games. To be sure, Tampa’s defense is ugly (any team giving M-A Bergeron 19 minutes of ice time a night is playing with fire; and as a group it is not the most mobile), but maybe someone finally showed Roloson his birth certificate.
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So they’ve got room… trade for Nabokov and hope an Isles cast-off can save them again?
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Don’t the Isles kind of need Nabby?
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Depends on how much faith you have in Al Montoya… The Isles seem to like him enough to consider him the number one, in which case I guess they have to balance the value of Nabokov’s potential return against his usefulness as a backup goalie.
Personally, I’m hoping he gets traded somewhere he can start consistently. Halak is not cutting it for my fantasy team, and the only other FA goalie options are Dubnyk and Smith.
by Murshawursha on Oct 18, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I picked up Varly in the 18th round for my 3rd G… worked out pretty well so far, except I picked up Rolly in the 17th round, which hasn’t panned out so well.
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by iwearstripes on Oct 18, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Varly actually went in the 3rd in my league…I ended up taking Rinne in the 2nd and Halak in the mid-teens. Rinne’s been solid, Halak is bleeding me points.
by Murshawursha on Oct 18, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Halak is gonna get starts though. The Blues have no legit backup. They just have to hope he turns it around.
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Yeah, but how many days of .8xx save percentages will I have to suffer through before that happens? I don’t think I’m going to even play him tonight against LA.
by Murshawursha on Oct 18, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Who knows. Looking at last season, it seems as likely that you get a shutout as you get a .800. If the Blues D is ever fully healthy he’ll be a stud for sure, as he relies on them a lot to clean out rebounds and limit point blank shots.
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I picked Lundqvist in the 1st round and then got Ward later and Varly in the late teens as my 3g.
it hasn’t gone so well for me outside of Varly
by Beakers Lab on Oct 18, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Can the Islanders trade Nabokov free and clear this season? Waivers has reset, right?
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by Gould Old Days on Oct 18, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
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Actually, Nabby might not want to go anywhere.
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by J.P. on Oct 18, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Losing Ohlund is not helping. And, yes, giving MAB even-strength ice time is asking for trouble.
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Really? You’re that far down on Ohlund?
I’m no expert on his play, but I thought he was a reasonable top-4 guy.
I of course could be wrong, and if you hold strong opinions on his play you’re probably a better judge than I am.
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Classic “Eastern Conference Semi-Finals hangover.”
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by J.P. on Oct 18, 2011 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
The TEB piece on Ovi is probably today’s “must-read.”
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Maybe I broke the Internet, but the WaPo web site seems to have blown up.
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Seems to be working for me (could be cached or something… dunno).
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Peerless, do you want to revise your prediction for tonight’s game at all?
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Nope…Tampa Bay sucks so far, and Florida must be exhausted from running up and down the ice like that.
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by ThePeerless on Oct 18, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Obviously, this is all speculation.
by Rob Parker on Oct 18, 2011 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
And rec’d.
Directly on point:
Boudreau and his staff have been working closely with Ovechkin to help him become less predictable on offense.At least we now know the answer to, “They all have to realize how predictable he’s become, right?”
Ovechkin’s go-to move has been to carry the puck into the offensive zone from the left side, then cut hard into the high slot and use the defenseman as a screen. The past two seasons, defenders have been stepping up on him as an opposing forward applies pressure from the backside, often stripping him of the puck or forcing him into a low percentage shot.
That’s still happening too often and he’s still not using his linemates enough.
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And technically his cavalry had a broken thumb when they went to make that change.
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True. But if Nick Backstrom was well-enough to play, he was well-enough to carry a puck and receive a pass – I doubt his injury forced 8 to re-think his selflessness.
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see this is the thing that gives me hope. The coaching staff knows and is working on it. They aren’t just sitting around with their thumbs up their asses dropping f bombs hoping things will change.
by Beakers Lab on Oct 18, 2011 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
see this is the thing that gives me hope. The coaching staff knows and is working on it.
That’s the “glass half full” reaction.
Others might say, “This gives me no hope. The coaching staff has been working on it for a year and nothing’s changed – either they don’t know what to do or he’s not listening.”
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by J.P. on Oct 18, 2011 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And, as I intimated above, you could see it as a reactionary response rather than a critical, pro-active, analysis of his game.
Obviously, this is all speculation.
That’s fine, and the fact that they are working with him definitely is enough to give you hope that things will change. If that’s what you’re in to.
Obviously, this is all speculation.
I wonder if we’ll ever see that translate into a better cycle game from Ovechkin. There’s no reason that line shouldn’t run the most dominant cycle in the league. Again, nothing we didn’t talk about last year.
Yeah, and you’d think Brouwer could make the cycle even better with his speed.
Obviously, this is all speculation.
The Pens announcers actually commented at one point about the cycle the top line had going and that the Pens couldn’t get the puck and then the Caps promptly turned it over, but nevertheless it was noted by unabashed homers for the other team.
Well it happened at all, if even briefly. So that made it notable, compared to the past.
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by Gould Old Days on Oct 18, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey! What abou us?!
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Henrik
Yeah!
Signed,
Daniel
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by ThePeerless on Oct 18, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if cutting down the curve on his blade slightly might help him be more effective on the cycle. I’ve got to imagine it’s hard to handle the puck – especially on the backhand – with that banana curve he’s got.
Unleash the Apathy.
I tried playing a game with a stick with Ovi’s curve.
I dunno how he manages to ever hit the net… or make a pass… or receive a pass.
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by iwearstripes on Oct 18, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
He needs MORE curve. Look what it did for me?
Love,
Sidney
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by ThePeerless on Oct 18, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
PS. I’m coming back really, I - oooh, look at all the pretty colors…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I do think AO has tried to use his teammates more this young season.
Several times he’s carried the puck into the zone, made one hard cut and looked to dish. He’s, um, not the most natural setup guy in the world. In particular his backhand passes lack polish (and given the curve, you can see the challenge).
But It seems to me like he’s at least trying to do something different. Might be why they put Brouwer up there? Give him an opposite wing with slightly better wheels who can get to a good spot to receive a pass?
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Glad to see he’s taking time from making sure he’s clean shaven, endorsing the right stick and making funny commercials to actually care about his game.
Just curious, isn’t improving your game what players do in the off season? I’m getting more and more jaded by the day regarding Ovi.
It isn’t even anger-inducing. It does not seem to be worth that kind of emotional investment. It might not even be disappointing any more. It is expected.
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My heart sang when I read Boudreau’s quote “He’s not getting 21-22 minutes a night; he’s getting 18 – 19, because the team’s more balanced.”
My goodness, maybe the old dog can learn new tricks.
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Yeah that was encouraging to hear. It’ll be interesting to see what his PP TOI looks like the next few games.
Hopefully huge raw totals but relatively low percentage of total PK TOI.
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I tweeted this to JP this morning:
Ovi missing less this year (27.8%) than he did last year (29.2%) and the same as 2009-10 (27.9%) at 5v5. He is shooting closer.
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The above was in reference to:
Although Ovechkin has always possessed one of the hardest shots in the league, it can also be inaccurate. Too many this season, the two-time MVP said, have been off-target. In fact, 17 of his attempts have either been blocked or missed the net altogether. Hence the bucket.
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Any idea if any of this is related to the switch to Bauer?
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Could me related to not having a sore wrist… or related to coming into camp in good enough shape to be able to skate to better shooting areas.
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by iwearstripes on Oct 18, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Where do you go for missed shot data? Or are you counting from game video?
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by iwearstripes on Oct 18, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
So shooting closer and missing less, but scoring less, would mean the main thing is he is shooting less often, right? Can a direct correlation be made between the amount of reduced ice time and the 5×5 shots he has taken this year vs. past years? Seems sort of ludicrous to do this after 4 games, but it’s what we have, and BB is indicating this is a long-term change.
Terrifically juvenile.
What about misses + blocks (i.e. is he getting more shot attempts on goal)?
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Blocks/60 were lower at the time, despite people thinking more of his shots were being blocked. Missed shots the same but slightly higher as a % of shots.
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by dcsportsfan1 on Oct 18, 2011 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Who are you?
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s a good thing Irbe is gone. Can you imagine a conversation between those two?
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by Gould Old Days on Oct 18, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Meh to the Flyers one, pass to the Rangers one.
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by Bald Pollack on Oct 18, 2011 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I would have gone w/ the diagonal New York for the Rangers. Otherwise not bad. Flyers, um, it’s orange.
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by dcsportsfan1 on Oct 18, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions
They did that on their throwback jerseys last year for the Winter Classic they didn’t play in…
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by iwearstripes on Oct 18, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Really don’t like the way the Flyers’ jerseys have the all-white nameplate against an orange background.
by Murshawursha on Oct 18, 2011 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Numbers on the front of the jersey become redundantly redundant with the addition of teh numbers on the helmets.
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Not really. Numbers on the front of the jersey make the numbers on the front of the helmet redundant, since you can actually see the number on the jersey, whereas the number on the front of the helmet is useless.
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by iwearstripes on Oct 18, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Either way, it’s not a goddamned football jersey. Keep the numbers on the back, thanks.
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Yeah, hockey’s got a sense of decorum to uphold with respect to its sweaters…
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by J.P. on Oct 18, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He’s a lumberjack, and he’s alright?
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by AMusingFool on Oct 18, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, but I’ll add “it’s not a goddamned football jerseyhelmet. Keep the numbers on the back, thanks.”
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by iwearstripes on Oct 18, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
One Word...
BORING
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Rangers should have gone with this
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by Sombrero Guy on Oct 18, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
it’s going to be mighty cold out there without any pants on. But whatever floats your boat.
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by RedBirdie on Oct 18, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Following in the grand Mark Messier traditions.
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You just reminded me to verify that the Post was wrong when they said that Messier had won two Cups and two Harts w/NYR in today’s paper. I was pretty sure, but couldn’t check it at the time.
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by AMusingFool on Oct 18, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Like the Rangers—I adore the throwbacks they sported last season, but never been a huge fan of their current unis—and not so much the Flyers. It;s just way to similar to their current set.
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that would have been pretty awesome.
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I agree with the big thumbs-up on the Rangers sweater. Simple and old-schooly enough for a “Classic.” As for the Flyers, they suffer two things. They’re not an original-six team that can go back to the dim past for a theme like Chicago or Detroit did. And, they haven’t had many changes in their basic design (especially in the logo) since coming into the league (at least Buffalo and the Caps could do that).
They’re stuck with that “Flying P” and orange. Not great for tweaking unless they really wanted to go out of the box with a whole different logo and color scheme (like all black, or black jerseys with orange pants). Then again, they tried a futuristic theme once before and frankly, it sucked.
Maybe they should go all “Cooperalls?”
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by ThePeerless on Oct 18, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
black jerseys with orange breezers? Yikes. don’t give them any ideas!
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I’d have suggested all orange (helmets, pants, sweaters, socks), but that would look to “Syracuse-y” and the management here might get upset ;)
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by ThePeerless on Oct 18, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Black pants with solid black socks would be kind of a hilariously awesome tribute to the cooperall era.
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by iwearstripes on Oct 18, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I got it!…All black with an orange logo done in sequins!
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by ThePeerless on Oct 18, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Justin Bourne on The Day of A Healthy Scratch
Thought it was interesting enough to post here.
http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2011/10/17/the-game-day-routine-of-the-healthy-scratched/
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The first edition of that minimalist logo randomly only had two stars until enough people complained that the D.C. flag, in fact, has three. Good thing that girl waited for the second edition.
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Yeah, I’d noticed that. Maybe the first one wasn’t minimalist, but subtractionist.
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In the everyone is tweeting the news category and no surprise, a goalie has been called up to sit on the bench tonight, Dany Sabourin.
I had a question related to that. Could Holtby be waiver-eligible at any point this season? I’m just wondering why Sabourin was called up instead of Holtby, since Hershey last played on Saturday and isn’t playing again until Friday.
My mind is all twisted like a peanut.
Holtby is going to be fighting for the #1 job next year in the NHL, getting him some AHL time before the battle royale.
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But this doesn’t do anything for that, unless they’re sure Neuvy won’t be able to backup until the weekend. Hershey doesn’t play tonight or tomorrow.
My mind is all twisted like a peanut.
They’re not gonna ride Holtby into the ground and have him drive to DC only to turn around and head back to Hershey.
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Why not? Worked for me.
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by Bald Pollack on Oct 18, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, but if you recall, you had the flu.
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Before “Duncan Hines” became a cake mix, it was a real person who wrote a book (Adventures in Good Eating) about the restaurants he enjoyed across the country. Alzner is going to write one of his own…
“The Fast Food of Route 15: Adventures in Grease”
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by ThePeerless on Oct 18, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don’t want to interrupt his practice routine?
When last we saw him, Holtby was pretty obviously not ready for prime time. So I’d imagine the staff want him to get the maximum amount of work possible, including practice and games.
I don’t know for sure, but if hockey is anything like baseball, there’s no learning at the big league level. It’s all about winning a game. You do your learning and growing in the minors. And that’s what Holtby needed and presumably still needs.
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Holts gave up six in the home opener. Not all his fault, obviously, but still work to do.
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Roloson’s old enough to be Holtby’s father…
Ok, now, no jokes about maybe Rolo being Holtby’s father….
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Search your feelings. You know it to be true.
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by AMusingFool on Oct 18, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
No sense to uproot him and send him back I guess? Besides, if Neuvirth can’t go tomorrow, maybe he gets the call for Thursday at Philly.
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by Bald Pollack on Oct 18, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
*he being Holtby and call being recall.
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by Bald Pollack on Oct 18, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Is Holtby on parole in PA or something that prevents him from leaving the state? Back-up in PIT, maybe PHI…
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Sobourin has a lower cap hit. Every dollar counts.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Oct 18, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
So does Sabourin…
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Oct 18, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Not really. Unless you’re talking about Ted’s wallet.
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Nothing a few $8 bottles of Bud Light won’t remedy.
It isn’t even anger-inducing. It does not seem to be worth that kind of emotional investment. It might not even be disappointing any more. It is expected.
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by macvechkin on Oct 18, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Am I wrong? CapGeek has Sabourin at $525 and Holtby at $637.
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by dcsportsfan1 on Oct 18, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Here’s an explanation — short version is Caps aren’t banking any cap space cuz Tom Poti.
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by Gould Old Days on Oct 18, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Don’t want to swerve into a long cap discussion, but aren’t they at the cap already and therefore would be into the overage allowed by Tom Poti’s LTIR status? If so, doesn’t bringing up a lower cap hit guy help?
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by dcsportsfan1 on Oct 18, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Think of it this way – if Poti has them over the cap (which he does), they get no benefit from being under the cap minus Poti.
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Holtby’s not waiver eligible. And I think they’re calling up Sabourin because they don’t expect him to play. Might as well inconvenience him, and let Holtby keep to his routine in Hershey and get most of the starts (even if there’s no start tonight). Doesn’t do Holtby any good to sit on the Caps’ bench.
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by Gould Old Days on Oct 18, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe they saw a video of Holtby on the entrance and exit ramps of the highway for the drive, and they feared for the lives of the other drivers on the road. Takes talent to bang the corners of the window that way, with a stick that big. Or maybe that was just him telling the other drivers to stay out of his crease.
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by AMusingFool on Oct 18, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
As others have noted, Holtby could use some semblance of a routine and practice time. Saw the game Saturday night and not all the goals were due to Holtby, but he didn’t look sharp and I think the up and down and lack of practice at the end of last week contributed.
As far as waivers, he is waiver-exempt right now. However, you have asked a question I have been thinking about and it’s now time to get an answer as it relates to goalies and games played and waivers. There are places in the CBA where games played for a goalie includes being the back-up on roster, but not playing any minutes as a game played for a goalie. I was thinking about this yesterday when wondering which goalie would be recalled as I have never needed to know if this applied for the waiver table purposes for goalies before now; I assume it does, but now is time to confirm. I will get back to you on this after some reading.
By my tracker, Holtby has 14 games where he has played minutes and 17 NHL games where he has been the back-up but not played any minutes in the game for a total of 31 games dressed and on the roster for an NHL game. Even if NHL games played for waiver purposes counts games as the back-up, he has to hit 80GP before waivers would be an issue. Right now the count is either 14 or 31. My notes say he signed as a 19yo and he has one more season after this one of exemption if he doesn’t hit the games played number.
The more I read the CBA the more I think it’s possible it’s only the 14 games played which count, but seeking confirmation towards the 80.
Sk8, since you were at the game, could you see what the hell happened during that first (?) goal when Hanson was laying on top of Holtby for what seemed like forever? Did they get their skates entangled?
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Thought it was the second goal, but regardless, Holtby had no chance. Looked like Hanson got locked up in Hotlby’s pads of all things. Not quite sure from my angle. I have some pics from afterwards, the expression on Holtby’s face, ha ha.
Yeah, I wasn’t sure which goal it was. Stuccio seemed perplexed during the call.
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From DGB’s Hockey Fan’s guide to the World Series:
World Series: For the second straight year, the Texas Rangers have won their first two playoff rounds under the leadership of popular manager Ron Washington.
NHL: Nobody with “Washington” on their jersey ever wins two playoff rounds in the same season.
Burrrrn.
I am a hockey fan first, and a Caps fan second.
Texas’ jerseys read “Washington” on the front, once upon a time.
Rooting for the Caps from the OBX.
by Acer Jonesy's Laughker on Oct 18, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Not if you ask them… to the Rangers organization, their team was born in 1972…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess they would reject the historical reality of the Minnesota North Stars, as well.
(I don’t really give 2 shits about any Dallas fan, just trying to get back to a hockey-related topic).
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by Acer Jonesy's Laughker on Oct 18, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think the Dallas Stars organization rejects their Minnesota roots as much as the Texas Rangers do their roots from Washington. They don’t include the the Senators’ records and results in their team history…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like the new Jets.
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by iwearstripes on Oct 18, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
World Series: “Defensive indifference” refers to a play in which a runner is not credited with a stolen base because the defense did not make an effort to throw him out.
NHL: “Defensive indifference” will be the title of this season’s Sergei Gonchar highlight DVD.
Obviously, this is all speculation.
But true at this stage of his career. When he was with the Caps he was pretty good on D until about 2002…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
RealKyper Nick Kypreos
Confirmed 11:30 am today #Pens Kris Letang will have #NHL disciplinary hearing for boarding #Jets Alex Burmistrov last night.
I find this rather amusing after the discussion a few days ago about the dirty players on the Pens.
My mind is all twisted like a peanut.
apart from the slashing, Letang isn’t particularly dirty. If that boarding was anything like the boarding on Spezza it’s just lack of awareness.
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I don’t think he’s been called to the Principal’s office before… Heck, he might get away with stuff by pointing at Matt Cooke and saying “He did it…”
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
apart from the slashing, Letang isn’t particularly dirty
Similar could be said about O.J.
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by J.P. on Oct 18, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
“Other than the murders, we don’t have high crime rates.”
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by fat_daddyo on Oct 18, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
rec’d. letang was actually used as an example of letting up on a player in one of shanahan’s previous videos. but that’s not to say he isn’t nasty with the stick, and of course he had over 100 PIMs last year.
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 18, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, headshots are bad and all but Letang is probably responsible for more aggregate missed games than a lot of cheap shot artists. Dude is completely careless with stick checking. Fine, he lets up every once in awhile and doesn’t truck stick people but come the fuck on.
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It’s been too long since there’s been a Shanny video… I love how when he did the first one he seemed ok, but by the time the preseason had gone on a couple of weeks you could hear him sighing as he introduces himself yet again…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
And the Pens broadcasters were just tripping all over themselves to absolve Letang of any guilt and pin it all on Burmistrov last night. Disgusting.
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hey the player getting hit has to bear some responsibility… unless it was a Pens player getting hit in which case they are faultless
by Beakers Lab on Oct 18, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
That was a bad hit.
Kunitz should also have one for the cross check to the face. That was pretty brutal.
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Kunitz is without a doubt one of the dirtiest cheap shot artists in the league. I hate that prick.
by S h a g g y on Oct 18, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree. He’s a nasty little piece of work.
Can’t find a vid of it, but it was pretty clear cut. He had, however, just taken a high stick, so I’m not sure if that’s a mitigating factor in the mind of Shanahan/
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just taken a high stick, so I’m not sure if that’s a mitigating factor[…]
Made all the difference for Beagle… Oh.
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by redlineblue on Oct 18, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Kunitz? A cross-check up high? Why I never…
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I think people comment a lot on this board about cheap-shot artists, or guys who slash or make questionable hits. (A lot of them are Penguins.)
There are a ton of them in the league, and the Capitals have nobody on their team like that. They don’t have a Cooke or a Kaleta or Burrows.
But maybe they should.
Friedman made an interesting point in regard to enforcers and how SE teams don’t carry them. But Atlantic teams HAVE to have one. I wonder if the same thing applies to stick artists and the like.
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Not sure how much I’m buying Friedman there. The Caps face SE teams 24 times this year. They face ATL teams 20 times. Right? So is there that much less inter-divisional animosity (or that much more ATL-on-ATL violence versus SE-on-SE violence) so as to necessitate one division “needing” enforcers and the other not?
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Agreed. I’d also like to look at how much the respective enforcers even dress. That’s gotta make it even less of a difference among divisions, right?
Obviously, this is all speculation.
Likely. It’s like the Cold War (which D’ohboy misses terribly) – they have ‘em but don’t use ’em.
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by J.P. on Oct 18, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not one of those guys is a heavyweight fighter.
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Right. I’m not talking about heavyweights. I’m talking about chippy guys that hack, slash, pest, be an all-around dick.
Then Hendy probably fits the “pest” part (though he’s not much for stickwork, from what I’ve seen).
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I guess I think they need a pest that doesn’t play on the fourth line. Who knows.
There is something that this team is missing, right? It’s obviously not talent — they’ve got that in spades. So what is it? Coaching? Assholes on the ice?
Vokoun, Ward, Brouwer, Halpern and Hamrlik.
Duh.
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Anyone have a video of this hit?
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Oct 18, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like Brendan Shanahan does.
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In the pantheon of egregious boarding penalties, that one looks relatively tame.
All the same, I hope he gets a couple of games.
Yeah, that wasn’t so bad. It was a cross between Letang making a really stupid decision and Burmistrov turning and ducking at the same time. I don’t see that as a suspension.
I think if it is a suspension it’s because Letang continued and extended his arms through the hit. If he had tried to pull back I don’t think anything comes from it.
by Beakers Lab on Oct 18, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe.
The other thing that I noticed is that there wasn’t that much separation between the two players. It’s not like Burmistrov was against the wall and Letang had to take a few strides to get to him. They were both chasing the puck, Letang couldn’t catch up, and he boarded him.
I would’ve given him a 5.
that was the only video of it I could find. Surprisingly difficult to come across that one. There are plenty of the Letang hit on Spezza out there though.
by Beakers Lab on Oct 18, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
If you want to watch Kellie Cowan, Whyno and me talk Caps, you’re in luck – posted the latest “Lunchbox” on the front page.
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Are you sure that isn’t an episode of Big Bang Theory?
It isn’t even anger-inducing. It does not seem to be worth that kind of emotional investment. It might not even be disappointing any more. It is expected.
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by macvechkin on Oct 18, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Ha. There certainly is a beauty-and-two-beasts aspect to it, but that’s a little mean to Kellie and Steve.
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by J.P. on Oct 18, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
OT: Fun crazy story to watch with Columbus calling up Saint John (and unsigned Columbus draft pick) goalie, Corbeil, for tonight’s game due to injuries to all goalies under contract, except Mason.
they don’t have a video editor in their organisation?
by j762 on Oct 18, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Strangely enough, playing goal isn’t written in the job description.
I think.
Don’t try to figure Sasha out. Just ride the wave.
At my workplace every job description has a the bullet item “Other Duties as Assigned” as the last item in the responsibilities for jobs. So it may be that the video editor for the BJ’s may have to lace ’em up…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
So do Hendy and Bradley go tonight? Are the players that upset about Bradley’s comments?
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by Knubles and Bits on Oct 18, 2011 10:27 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Do people really fight over words in the NHL?
Did D.J. King kick Talbot’s ass for calling Ovi a douche (like he said he would)?
If they go, it’s not going to be because Bradley disrespected Semin.
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But if they don’t fight can we say that it’s because the Caps agree with Brads?
Obviously, this is all speculation.
I think that’s a rock-solid conclusion to draw from every player who does not challenge Brads, yes.
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So will we see Semin go bongos on him? If he doesn’t, is it because he agrees or doesn’t care?
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Oct 18, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d pay money to see that… no wait, I already paid money to see this game.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
What I don’t get is why it re-appeared as an issue. Why is Brads quoted as being really upset about the whole thing? I understand the whole media angle in bringing it up, but a once sentence dismissal might have been more appropriate from him. Something to the effect of, “I said some things that I regret, I’m sorry and it’s over.”
Don’t try to figure Sasha out. Just ride the wave.
I suppose it happens from time to time. Maybe it won’t be a forced issue, but you’d have to think that it will be in the back of Hendy’s head everytime he is on the ice. Or maybe not.
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Great screen name.
/OT
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by _Skullduggery_ on Oct 18, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks. I haven’t been around much lately.
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by Knubles and Bits on Oct 18, 2011 8:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If they go, it’s not going to be because Bradley disrespected Semin.
Right. Most of the team has never even had a conversation with Semin, no way they stick up for him on the ice.
Release the Mackan!
by Killer_Carlson on Oct 18, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
There’s really no way they can know anything about him really. I mean, they only spend time at the rink. How are they supposed to get to know the guy?
Once you take the fisting element out, it's not romantic anymore.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Oct 18, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Enough snarking – nothing to be gained here.
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by J.P. on Oct 18, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
disrespected Semin.
Sounds like a good flick.
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by _Skullduggery_ on Oct 18, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
nah.
I was semi-amusing to listen to Chimera dance around that question on Elliot.
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I can’t listen at work, but I’ll have to check it out when I get home.
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by Knubles and Bits on Oct 18, 2011 10:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It’s not a must-listen, but enjoyable. Lots of dancing around about Brads comments and if guys are mad at him, laughing that Chimera’s the team’s leading goal scorer, how much he and his family love DC and how excited they are to stay with the extension, some good stuff about how much he enjoys getting to play in Edmonton because everyone he knows goes to the game and how it’s such a dream come true.
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So Markstrom is expected to get the start (as, um, expected). Unfortunately, he doesn’t get the in-depth scouting report treatment in the Goalie Guild’s Style Guide (Clemmensen does, and it’s 2Gs per team). Rats.
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Backis and Markstrom at golf tourney this sumer
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by ThePeerless on Oct 18, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Goalie Guild has talked about Markstrom before on his site.
From October 3:
Jacob Markstrom is in a real interesting situation right now. Theodore is struggling and Scott Clemmensen is out for at least a month. As the current backup, he’s on the fast track to earning a full-time NHL gig. I personally feel like he’s not ready for this type of situation, but his performance will be the true testament of whether he’s ready or not. If he wins, he is capable of exploding and could be one of the NHL’s best rookie goaltenders.
That’s all well and good, but last I checked, Theo wasn’t struggling.
by Murshawursha on Oct 18, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, not at all. Despite the little goal-fest last night, Theo’s been looking pretty good.
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FLA lines, per Litterbox Cats
Fleischmann-Weiss-Versteeg
Booth-Kopecky-Upshall
Bergenheim-Goc-Skille
Bradley-Matthias-Carter
Pretty decent looking second line. First line is too soft (Flash) and not skilled enough (Versteeg) for my tastes. Weiss is playing a small tick above his talent level, but I do like his game.
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That’s not a terrible line-up. I agree that they need an upgrade at wing on the first line, but I don’t think it’s Versteeg that necessarily has to go. He’s a good two-way forward that could help out with more offensive-minded linemates.
Versteeg is a useful guy to have on your team, I agree. I think the same analysis applies to him as to Weiss, but to a more marked degree. He’s really a 2W kind of guy, and I can’t really even begin to see him as a legit first line player.
But I agree that the F corps is decent.
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Do feel free to repost the lines and discuss the game in the Noon Number comments – it’s FLA-centric, today, and likely will be opposition-focused on game days, sort of as a non-preview preview. (We half-ass it where we can.)
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(Didn’t mean it as a chiding at all, btw.)
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Third line is pretty good, also. Bergenheim/Goc/Skille should do pretty well at controlling the puck.
I disagree that Versteeg isn’t skilled enough for a first line – he’s a pretty skilled player, but his trouble has always been consistency.
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by Knee high to a duck on Oct 18, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
And the pairings, also via Litterbox Cats
Campbell-Garrison
Jovanovski-Gudbranson
Kulikov-Weaver
Jovo is just not a top-4 guy any more. He got burned by speed several times that I noticed last night. Gudbranson is a gorgeous skater but he could stand to be a bit stronger on his skates based only on one game’s worth of viewing.
In general, this is a weak D.
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And Garrison needs to take that freaking puppet off his hand
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by Gould Old Days on Oct 18, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
The pairs are listed in inverse order. Mike Weaver is obviously the 1D on that team.
Obviously, this is all speculation.
Let’s see how BB gets AO away from Weaver.
I wish I was kidding.
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http://www.nhl.com/ice/Recap.htm?id=2010020414
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Interesting Weaver made 3rd star in that game with no G/A/+-
is that the snark?
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by _Skullduggery_ on Oct 18, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Bruce, post-game:
“Every team knows that they’ve got to check this guy and check that guy,” Boudreau said. “We as individuals have to change a little bit of the way we play. That’s why I switched Alex from left wing to right wing because they had [Mike] Weaver out there every time against him. We’ve got to find a way to get around that.”
Did you ever think you’d see the day that Alex Ovechkin would have to be hidden from Mike fucking Weaver?
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I kind of thought Mike Weaver was the poster boy for defensive defenseman who are very effective at their jobs but don’t get a lot of recognition.
Tortorella: Can I get another question? I went in here in a pretty good mood today, too.
Larry Brooks: So did I.
Tortorella: Well, you obviously f***ed that up, didn't you?
If he wasn’t before, Bruce Boudreau made him that.
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But if he was the poster boy for a good defensive D, why five teams in seven seasons when his salary has never topped $900k?
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Partially because he’s 5’9", I’d imagine. But I’m not remembering this incorrectly – Mirtle highlighted him a couple of years ago as being pretty effective at shutting down opposing teams’ top lines.
Tortorella: Can I get another question? I went in here in a pretty good mood today, too.
Larry Brooks: So did I.
Tortorella: Well, you obviously f***ed that up, didn't you?
Yeah, I didn’t doubt it, just an odd bounce-around for a guy who’s cheap and ostensibly good.
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Mike Weaver?
No…
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by ThePeerless on Oct 18, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Gudbranson is on a pace for 492 penalty minutes.
That would be a record.
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I knew only the name going into the game last night – which is usually an indication that he’s a hyped-enough prospect that F&B has mentioned him here – so I don’t know much about him.
He’s a big kid, and I thought he skated beautifully last night. Does have a reputation as a rough customer too?
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105 PIMs in 44 games in his last year at Kingston. Might not be a brawler, but he doesn’t seem to be a shrinking violet.
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He’s a fighter and his younger bro alex (also playing for kingston) is the same type of player (not as skilled) and available in this yrs draft.. the two of them together are a scary thought, “The Bash brothers” if you will.. strong defense good skating and passing and monster hits/ability to drop the gloves
by Rob PKane McMahon on Oct 18, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Gubranson vs Downie 10/15
http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/105699
Gubranson vs Malone 10/17
http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/105876
I did enjoy the way Gudbranson casually took off his helmet against Malone.
Anyone that beats up on Downie like that is OK with me.
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I noticed three or four times last night where the Bolts looked to have him hemmed in and he created some space and an angle with some really slick edge control to get a lane for a breakout pass (which was accurate).
Only one game of course but I was impressed with him last night.
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The scary thing is not by much. Somehow Dave Schultz managed to accumulate 472 PIMs in one season…. and he did that in 76 games!
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
From SI article on an old Capital
He was one of the most decorated players in the NHL during his 17 brilliant seasons, from 1990 to 2008—winning a Hart Trophy and five scoring titles, and earning seven first-team All-Star selections
Shouldn’t that be “during his 15 brilliant seasons and two in Washington?”
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He really loves hockey…except for that part that occurs at the end of the rink where you don’t score goals.
And he skates to keep his legs in shape…until it’s the 3rd period of an elimination game, at which point he becomes too tired to even move those legs.
Ptui.
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I sure wouldn’t have him in my top-10 ever.
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Why not? Does your memory go back before 1992?
Obviously, this is all speculation.
by Rob Parker on Oct 18, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Um, I’ve been following the NHL since its inception at the 2004 Entry Draft. Why are you talking about the 90s?
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Oct 18, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Let’s see, 1992 was my senior year in high school, so yeah, pretty much.
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Oh to be young again….
Still Jagr isn’t a top-10 all time player. Top 20 or 30, you can make a case. Top 50 definitely.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll play - skaters only
Gretzky
Orr
Lemieux
Howe
Richard (Maurice)
Messier
Lafleur
Hull (Bobby)
Belliveau
Coffey
Ronnie Francis
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Mark Howe is not one of the best… Oh, wait.
I think we really have to separate pre- and post-expansion when judging players. There were only 6 teams for 20-odd years.
I could do a Top-3000 list and Jagr would not appear on it, just so you know where I’m coming from.
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You’re not the boss of me?
The Top 10 list is a serious listing, though. And if we added in Goalies, which is a legit addition imo, it’s not even close for Jagr.
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The biggest thing in his favor was that, for about 6 years, Jagr was the greatest threat to score on every shift. He was bigger than nearly everyone else. He was more talented than nearly everyone else.
And then he was traded to the Capitals.
Yes, Jaromir Jagr is easily a post-expansion top-10 player… for video games.
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Ha. Yes. A top-one player, JR.
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Not even sure I agree with this.
More of a threat than (at various times) Bure, Selanne, Forsberg, or Fedorov?
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Bure could beat you with speed, Selanne with his shot, Forsberg and Fedorov with their overall game. I don’t think they were as frightening on the ice as Jagr.
No, they weren’t. Not as offensive forces. But Foppa and Feds were more complete players by miles.
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Obviously, but their two-way play (which was amazing) wasn’t enough to overcome Jagr’s offensive superiority.
That said, this highlight reel is a little bit money.
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Fedorov could have been close in a more open system but he wouldn’t have been recognized as such an astute defender.
He finished 10 points behind Gretzky in 93-94, the year Fedorov won the Norris.
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Fedorov won the Norris
I’m pretty sure that never happened.
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by iwearstripes on Oct 18, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m pretty sure it could have if he wanted it to.
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Missing Bossy!
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He was great. Didn’t play long enough for my Top 10, but I understand how YMMV.
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he got Orr’d, but he’s still supremely underrated.
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I keep Orr in there because he changed the game all by himself, just for information’s sake.
I think Bossy was great, but I can’t see who I’d take off the list in his favor.
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Orr is the greatest defenseman ever to play the game. Period. He belongs as number one or two on any list of greatest players (Only Gretzky is in that argument with him).
That he was able to accomplish all he did before injuries ended his career at age 30 was incredible.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
In my mind, Orr is the best player ever. Just an unparalleled talent in both ends (and had a higher defensive GVT than Rod Langway per game, in addition to his offensive abilities). I’d give a body part to see him in his prime, live.
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by Knee high to a duck on Oct 18, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Like I said, the only player who can be compared to Orr is Gretzky because he was so far ahead of everyone. Orr was better than Paul Coffey at being Paul Coffey and better than Langway at being Rod Langway.
A shame he never got to finish his career. He would have had 6 more years if not for his knees…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
My dad never ceases to remind me that he saw the first NHL game Orr ever played.
Unleash the Apathy.
Does he accept middle toes and does he have a time machine?
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by Knee high to a duck on Oct 18, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Big toes only.
Once you take the fisting element out, it's not romantic anymore.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Oct 18, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Skaters only Top 10
Wayne Gretzky
Bobby Orr
Mario Lemieux
Gordy Howe
Maurice Richard
Bobby Hull
Mark Messier
Guy Lefleur
Gilbert Perreault
Jean Beliveau
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Perreault was an amazing player, and had the talent to be Wayne Gretzky before Wayne Gretzky. He never had the drive or work ethic Gretzky had…. guy had serious talent. He was his generation’s Alex Semin, albeit without the lazy penalties…
Think about it this way. The Sabres were expanded into existence in for the 1970-71 season. In their third season they were in the playoffs, and they played in the Finals in their 5th season. Thing is, they were expanded into the East, where five of the original six teams were still playing at the time. A lot of that was Perreault.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d have Fedorov up there before Francis, but he might be my favorite not-in-his-prime-Capital ever. There’s also no chance I have Coffey on there before Lidstrom.
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by Knee high to a duck on Oct 18, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
YMMV, top 10 lists are tough with so many incredible players.
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by Knee high to a duck on Oct 18, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I also wouldn’t have Coffey on there over Bourque. But I’d have both of them and Lidstrom on over Jagr.
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by Killer_Carlson on Oct 18, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Here’s an interesting one for you – Niedermayer. Unquestionably one of the best defenders ever, but played a bunch of time in Lidstrom’s shadow. Also, playing the tail end of your prime with Pronger on another pair means that you get some easier minutes than you otherwise might.
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by Knee high to a duck on Oct 18, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Niedermayer is a tough one. I love the guy but he no doubt was put in a lot of great situations playing with Stevens and Rafalski in front of Brodeur (and behind a stifling trap) and then as part of the two-headed Prongermayer monster. Although he is basically a prototype for the ideal post-lockout defenseman.
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by Killer_Carlson on Oct 18, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
How so? Bourque was terrific, but Coffey’s numbers were phenomenal. For all his failure in his own end (and it was pretty big), he was an offensive juggernaut. He scored a point-per-game in the playoffs over his career (196 in 1994).
Bourque was the second best offensive defenseman at the time, while also being the best defensive defenseman. He was the best all around defender for probably ten years in his prime. I don’t think there’s a question about who the better hockey player was.
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by Knee high to a duck on Oct 18, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Best all-around defender? You’re nuts.
And Coffey and Bourque pretty much played the exact same career (80-01 for Coffey, 79-01 for Bourque).
Well, Langway was better for a bit and you could make an argument for Chelios. But Bourque really was an incredible player and you’re giving him short shrift. If I want to win something, I want Bourque over Coffey every time.
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by Knee high to a duck on Oct 18, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe, maybe if you’re playing a video game. Otherwise, there’s no way.
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by Knee high to a duck on Oct 18, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, comparing points across eras doesn’t mean as much if you don’t adjust for the overall scoring level.
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by Knee high to a duck on Oct 18, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
He is the best skater to play his best seasons during the NHL’s lowest scoring. He came into the league just as scoring was starting to collapse and left (the first time) just as it was allowed to come back.
How much was he able to accomplish without arguably the greatest player in history on his team?
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Players who were unquestionably better:
Gretzky, Lemieux, Bourque, Lidstrom, Yzerman, Roy, Brodeur
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Why not? He’s right up there in points (6th, I want to say) and has all those intangible accolades and awards.
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by red army line on Oct 18, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess because during his best offensive seasons, the Red Wings were horrible. He never led the league in goals, assists, or points. And in his team’s three Stanley Cups, he wasn’t the best player on his team.
Yes, because he played against the primes of Wayne Gretzky and Mario Lemieux. That’s like saying Larry Robinson was a bad defenseman because he couldn’t win a Norris over Bobby Orr.
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by Knee high to a duck on Oct 18, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Add in Hasek, Sakic and Francis and that makes 10. And that leaves off Dionne, Esposito, Coffey, and Bossy. And Howe technically played after expansion too.
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by Killer_Carlson on Oct 18, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Bossy just didn’t play enough to be a top 10 guy. Dionne was great, but played even less defense than Jagr. Francis is the best second-best-player-on-a-team to ever lace up skates.
Yeah, but Francis was 2nd best player behind Lemieux on the Penguins, not Jagr.
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by Killer_Carlson on Oct 18, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on. Crosby’s been in the league 5 years. Coffey played for them for 4 seasons. Francis would be my number three, but he’s not better than Jagr.
Talbot.
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by J.P. on Oct 18, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Not Rob Brown?
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure I agree. For one Francis was only on the same team as Jagr for one year after Lemieux retired the first time. And he’s also a much more well rounded player than Jagr, even if he isn’t the same goal scorer.
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by Killer_Carlson on Oct 18, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Bossy played more NHL games than Bobby Orr. Yes, I know Orr revolutionized the game and Bossy isn’t on his level, but Bossy was a ridiculous goal scorer. Over 750 games at .76 goals per game (best all time) and only behind Lemieux and Gretzky in points per game, all while being a key part of one of the best dynasties ever is enough to get in the conversation.
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by Killer_Carlson on Oct 18, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
If we’re going Top-10 post expansion, does Scott Stevens get on the list before Jagr does?
I think he might.
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Stevens is the reason some players AREN’T on the Top 10 post expansion list. That’s merit enough.
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by sydtron on Oct 18, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The names Kariya and Lindros ring a bell, don’t they?
(Yeah, I know, it was an easy joke… but why not…)
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I always wonder how Lindros would have done in a league without Stevens and Kasper.
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He did pretty well before he met them…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Here’s a list of guys who were better than Jagr and active during his main time in the NHL:
Gretzky, Lemieux, Bourque, Lidstrom, Yzerman, Roy, Brodeur, Hasek, Sakic, Messier.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Hockey-reference now has similarity scores and Adjusted Point Shares (similar to baseball win shares). Jagr blows most of those guys away. I don’t know much about this stat — and it’s something that I just discovered today — but compared with Sakic, Yzerman, and the others, he’s behind really only Lemieux and Gretzky. Phil Esposito had a better peak, but not career.
Look down near the bottom of Gretzky’s page:
I completely disagree on Brodeur. Very good, not great. Longevity and an incredible defense in front of him. He’s not in Roy or Hasek’s league.
Is Lafleur pre or post expansion? That guy was a boss.
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by Knee high to a duck on Oct 18, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
If you want to limit it to the expansion era, well all 10 of the guys on my list above all played in the expansion era. Admittedly Gordie and Beliveau were past their prme. If you want to replace them with Sakic and Yzerman, I’d be ok with that. Or maybe Brian Trottier, or Ron Francis, or Paul Coffey, or…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Ten Players Better than Jaromir Jagr:
1. Wayne Gretzky
2. Mario Lemieux
3. Bobby Orr
4. Gordie Howe
5. Skank Marden
6. Ned Braden
7. That guy who wore No. 7 for the “Presidents” in Slap Shot
8. Dean Youngblood
9. Jacques Grande
10. “Jack”
10.
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by ThePeerless on Oct 18, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Eddie Shore!
Toe Blake!
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Whyno chimes in on what Walton wrote about last night re. Dineen and Boudreau and the 2006 Calder Cup playoffs practice saga.
Mink,, the tying goal scorer making Fehr’s OT goal possible, chimed in last night, too:
@WaltonCaps Remember the “closed” practice confrontation? “You talking to me numb nuts?!?” Hilarious!
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Had this in the OT, but it’s really hockey related. I just got a text message from my husband, who’s on Metro going downtown for a seminar. He says there are people in Caps jerseys on the train. At 1 pm for a 7 pm puck drop. Nah, Washington’s not a hockey town. Nope.
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Sounds more like they’re an early tailgating town, but to each their own.
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by Bald Pollack on Oct 18, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t inquire as to their ages, actually. Could easily be college age kids headed to the Turtle. I thought it was cute, though.
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And to be fair, I’ve gone down there several hours ahead of time occasionally myself, often to catch a flick that was in limited release down there. #filmsnob
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by Bald Pollack on Oct 18, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too. Except the flick was called “Bells Two-Hearted on tap at Matchbox.”
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stop, not fair!
As to the jerseys…there’s also a chalk talk tonight for STHs before the game; still not this early, but some might be headed down early to grab a bite and attend the talk.
We’ve had that in kegs all year at Lot 8. You’re running out of excuses!
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by Bald Pollack on Oct 18, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve never been invited! (Or have I?)
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Always open to anyone. And as D’oh will tell you, watching me drink Two-Hearted from a crystall skull while smoking a La Gloria Cubana is a…spectacle.
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by Bald Pollack on Oct 18, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Missed the tailgate, but had a blast with Barra Brava at the game on Saturday. Your signature pretty much sums it up. Pretty sure I dreamed a weird freak ending to the match, though.
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OK, going over there now to discuss…
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by Bald Pollack on Oct 18, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Tailgating on the Metro? I like the way you think.
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Via Wysh, the VanSun article on Bieksa reflecting on Rypien’s death is a must-read.
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Super sad. While Rypien (according to Bieksa) wouldn’t have wanted a pre-game memorial, the media storm surrounding his depression gives an important voice to a tragic illness.
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Eric Lindros on concussions
I know it sounds ridiculous but sometimes the worst person to ask is the person who is concussed. I mean, you know when you’re flat out out. I remember being in Pittsburgh thinking that I was traded in the showers because I thought that we were playing at home, and these were not the showers we had at the First Union Center.
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In sum, Brooks Laich might need to STFU.
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by J.P. on Oct 18, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
In sum, we didn’t need to read this to know that he needed to be quiet. His comments on the topic were ridiculous.
Yup. Incredibly irresponsible, especially coming from the team’s PA rep.
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By definition there’s plenty of gray area related to concussions and everything about this, but I was very surprised by his comments. Sure sounded like PA talk.
It’s like saying a grown man should be able to get up and walk-around instead of having a collar put on when there’s a possible neck/spinal injury. Yeesh.
The thing that struck me about it is how unaware it is with regards to fringe NHLers. A guy like Laich, sure, he can wait around and play when he feels 100% (theoretically). But a Jay Beagle? A guy who’s fighting for a sweater? He’s gonna get to “good enough, I think, maybe” and play. Hell, Perreault essentially said he played through a concussion after the hit in Carolina and hid it from the team.
These guys literally are incapable of making informed decisions on this matter – the League has to take the call out of their hands as much as possible.
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Did Perreault say that he hid it, or that he didn’t realize at the time he was concussed? Of course, either answer is sufficient evidence for why a hit player shouldn’t make the call on his own brain health.
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by CapitalCentre on Oct 18, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
"I think I had a concussion, but I didn’t really want to admit it," he said. "I had headaches the whole time I was here after that. I didn’t want to stop playing because I wanted to stay here. I felt like if I stop playing maybe I’ll go down. . . . Looking back, I would have stopped playing and waited until I was fine. But that happened."
I don’t know how that could be any more damning unless it didn’t include “I think.”
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What did he say about this subject?
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Oct 18, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
"I really don’t care about that awareness stuff. To be honest I’m sick of hearing all this talk about concussions and about the quiet room," Laich said Friday. "This is what we love to do. Guys love to play, they love to compete, they want to be on the ice. How do you take that away from somebody? We accept that there’s going to be dangers when we play this game and know that every night that you get dressed.
"Sometimes, it just feels like we’re being babysat a little too much. We’re grown men and we should have a little bit of say in what we want to do."
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/14/capitals-brooks-laich-criticizes-nhls-concussion-p/
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(FWIW, Gormley has the quote as "I really don’t care about that awareness crap.")
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Ha. That’s great. I’ll assume “shit.”
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by J.P. on Oct 18, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bravo, Brooks. Bravo indeed. That’s just ridiculous.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Oct 18, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
He just wants to play hockey, dontcha know?
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“I really don’t care about that awareness crap,” Laich said. "To be honest, I’m sick of hearing all this talk about concussions and about the quiet room.
"This is what we love to do. Guys love to play, they love to compete, they want to be on the ice. How do you take that away from someone? We accept that there’s going to be dangers when we play this game. We know that every time we get dressed.
“I don’t know, sometimes it just feels like we’re being babysat a little too much. We’re grown men and we should have a say in what we want to do.”
by Murshawursha on Oct 18, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
OT: Markstrom, @Capsgoalielove tweeted this amusing youtube with Markstrom, starting around 30 second mark. link
if it’s already here and I missed it, sorry.
Hey guys random question..
I’m new to following the game and not sure what it’s called exactly when the goalie doesn’t allow a goal during the entire game? Can anyone help me out I’m drawing a blank
by Rob PKane McMahon on Oct 18, 2011 2:57 PM EDT reply actions
Pretty sure it’s called “trolling.” Stop it.
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by J.P. on Oct 18, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
lol I’m sorry guys, just popped over to read the comments on the game n such. hope the best to you tonight, I still love Vokie
by Rob PKane McMahon on Oct 18, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh. Thanks – good luck to your boys as well. Enjoy Brads… and good luck with the other two.
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he has some flashes during games that make us like him just enough but nothing spectacular yet (no bloody fights) Altho we have had Gudbranson to fill that roll. kid racked up 19 PIM in one fight on Saturday alone
by Rob PKane McMahon on Oct 18, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
If he doesn’t come through there’s always Upshall, Versteeg, Bradley, Jovo.. all of which aren’t affraid to drop gloves in the right situation, should make for an exciting match tonight
and yeah I said Versteeg lol guy can actually throw em
by Rob PKane McMahon on Oct 18, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Huhuhhhuhuuhuh… he said “Flash”
Yeah! Yeah! “Flash!”
Huhhhuhuuhhhuhh…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Saying or writing the word SHUTOUT doesn’t jinx a SHUTOUT anyway. In fact, there’s nothing we can write here that will actually affect the game at all…
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by Gould Old Days on Oct 18, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Shutout? Shutout.
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by Knee high to a duck on Oct 18, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Humperdink! Humperdink!
Ok, it’s not that related, but it’s better than saying the 7-letter S-word.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
No, no… you have to say it three times in front of a mirror. And then, if you do, the ghost of Stephen Whyno will appear behind the Caps’ goalie and haul him down when the puck is in the Caps’ end.
Tortorella: Can I get another question? I went in here in a pretty good mood today, too.
Larry Brooks: So did I.
Tortorella: Well, you obviously f***ed that up, didn't you?
by Wheeler on Oct 18, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I try to say shutout as much as I can to ruin the shutout, even if it’s the Caps getting the shutout. I’d happily trade a Caps shutout for knowledge of my powers.
Release the Mackan!
by Killer_Carlson on Oct 18, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Can’t believe you went all the way back to find that one…
I suspect the Caps shutout the Cats tonight, while we’re on the topic.
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Scary thing is the Caps and Cats now play a similar game, fast paced creating a lot of turnovers etc..
granted we dont have anywhere nearly as talented as washington does it’s worked pretty well so far this yr
by Rob PKane McMahon on Oct 18, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
SBNation has a pretty sweet search engine
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by Gould Old Days on Oct 18, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
because I enjoy every opportunity to smack (smake?) down the smug superiority of incredibly wrong red Wings fans, I present to you this little gem by the Chief at A2Y:
If it’s as simple as swapping Winnipeg with the Wings, putting us in with Ovechkin and the three expansion sisters? Great. Do it.
Yeah, about that? Carolina isn’t an expansion, they’re a relocation (sort of like of the Red Wings came to be). And come on over. Because it’s not going to be a cakewalk.
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Leone’s Hershey update, no surprise, Greentree has a broken arm
<a href=“http://French said Greentree suffered a broken arm. "I assume,” he said, “it’s going to be more than week to week.” target="new">link
Broken limb for Greentree. Sadly ironic.
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by J.P. on Oct 18, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ouch
more OT: recently reported he became a first time dad so silver lining…gives him time with the new baby
by sk84fun_dc on Oct 18, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Roughly 2 hours until FLA starter is announced..
encase it happens to be Markstrom who may be relatively unknown to you guys here in Washington a brief rundown on him (since you clearly don’t need one if Theo happens to start lol)
Jacob Markstrom (6’4 185lb) He might be a little underweight but in goalie standards all that does is make him quicker, and he definitely is QUICK. After watching a few replays of him from his time in the Swedish Elite League it seemed like nothing could get past him, and in face very little did in his first season there posting an impressive (in Euro standards) 2.01GAA. He became the youngest starter in SEL history I believe and practically carried his underskilled team into the Playoffs. Was awarded best goaltender in the 2009 World junior Championship despite not winning the Gold (Silver second place finish) Also named rookie of the year for the SEL in 2010. Made North American debut last season in the AHL getting off to a slow start and finishing strong before his season was ended with knee surgery.
Kid’s the real deal and has stated that he wants to be the best goalie in the NHL World and has been working towards that since he first threw on the pads
A few highlights for your viewing pleasure (even if you hate the Cats which is acceptable check it out) he’s definitely impressive
by Rob PKane McMahon on Oct 18, 2011 3:38 PM EDT reply actions
Here’s another scouting report: http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/capitals-watch/2011/oct/18/scouting-report-panthers-goalie-jacob-markstrom/
And Markstrom has been confirmed, fwiw.
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For What It’s Worth. Panthers confirmed Markstrom as the starter this morning.
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interesting, I guess news travels better up there I hadn’t heard anything and one of our media guys said it’d be announced around 5:30 before the game lol
thanks for the info!
by Rob PKane McMahon on Oct 18, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
So he’s going to join this impressive list
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by Gould Old Days on Oct 18, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
That is one fast glove hand. He’s got the skills. Have you heard why it’s him tonight instead of Clemmensen?
My mind is all twisted like a peanut.
Clemmensen’s been injured since before the seasons started.
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^ What they said
Chances are soon as Clemmer is back he’ll be back in the AHL to get more starts (experience) and by the end of this season or next year he’ll be ready for the full time NHL spot (Clemmer is a UFA after this season and could be traded at the deadline if theres interest)
by Rob PKane McMahon on Oct 18, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate it when the Caps face a guy – particularly a young guy – for the first time.
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makes it tough to adjust..
kind of like when the opposing PP changes on every attempt and you never know whats coming next.
by Rob PKane McMahon on Oct 18, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah. Shoot a lot. Get traffic. Doesn’t matter if it’s Dominik Hasek or Dan Ellis, a guy who’s played a thousand games or one.
As for the Cats’ PP, if the Caps are disciplined within their PK system and don’t spend the whole time chasing the puck, they’ll be fine there, too. I don’t think Dineen has stumbled upon unsolvable PP magic.
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i was actually surprised with TB taking so many penalties last night. Even St Louis was in the box at some point.. thats when you know something is wrong
by Rob PKane McMahon on Oct 18, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
and some ill-timed ones, too. Gotta love then your team kills a DOG penalty only to have a guy hook someone 5 seconds later. Essentially a 4 minute PP for the Cats, which they cashed in on.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 18, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Perreault saw him a few times last year (when Hershey played the Amerks), and so did Jay Beagl…oh, never mind.
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I’m curious if Mackan played against Markstrom in the SEL. I have no idea where to find SEL stats though.
My mind is all twisted like a peanut.
it's one of these two (the years Markstrom played there)
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/sel19982009.html
or
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/sel19982010.html
by Rob PKane McMahon on Oct 18, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks. Mackan did play in both those seasons, for Farjestads. I don’t see any way to find game-by-game stats though.
My mind is all twisted like a peanut.
ill take a look and try to post it if i find it
by Rob PKane McMahon on Oct 18, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
ahhhh right thanks..
now can you tell me what a Matchguide: Figren jagar revansch mot DIF is?
lmao I need to learn Swedish
by Rob PKane McMahon on Oct 18, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
ha, it’s not that crazy to navigate for game by game player stats, well at least not for the current season; didn’t spend anytime to find the historical info.
ok, yeah not so hard, here’s Johansson’s game by game info. for his last season in the SEL
For example, on 10/17/09, he had an assist on the power play against Brynas; looks like Markstrom started the game, btu Lack played also?
5 games against Brynas that season…looks like that was Johansson’s only point. I love the visual point display.
and here’s the link to the 08-09 season stats for Johansson; again 5 games; points in 3 of 5, look like all goals.
It was. Now I just need to figure out what it means when there’s an “A” listed under goals/assists in a game. Dang translated websites.
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Mackan had 3 of his 5 goals in 2008-9 against Brynas, and 1 assist in 2009-10. I think Markstrom played in all of the games where Mackan had a goal, but I can’t find game-by-game goalie stats.
My mind is all twisted like a peanut.
Guess I did read it right. I find it very amusing that Farjestad had 3 M. Johanssons on the squad in 2008-9 – Mikael, Martin, and Marcus.
My mind is all twisted like a peanut.
Thanks for the info. Is Mikael related to them? Or is that just weird coincidence?
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Thought that might be the case. Did you ever see Mackan play against Markstrom?
My mind is all twisted like a peanut.
And if I have my facts straight, I believe that Johnson is the most common surname in the US of A. Or at least that’s what a friend with that last name told me.
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I think Smith still is…. although Johnson is probably one of the most common.
My mind is all twisted like a peanut.
http://names.mongabay.com/most_common_surnames.htm
Smith
Johnson
Williams
Jones
Unsurprisingly, my last name isn’t on that list at all, although it is on this page.
Geeks of All Nations, Compile!
Twice, by my count (and he had one helper in the two games). Did I miss one?
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Not necessarily. I just know I watched the Bears get frustrated by Markstrom in the home opener, and after that I didn’t keep track of when MP85 was up with DC or back on the farm when Rochester came a’calling.
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What do you know? Letang gets two games. Per Dreger on twitter.
Don’t try to figure Sasha out. Just ride the wave.
I like puck daddy’s coverage of the hit (no update on the suspension yet)
The Penguins broadcast managed to cram a lot of comedy into that one clip. We can’t decide if we like Bob Errey’s “Burmistrov lost his footing” claim or his “there won’t be any further call anywhere” prediction better. We’re also quite fond of the camera cut to Matt Cooke(notes) during a discussion of boarding penalties.
Thanks for the link – that’s the first time I’ve seen the hit. I’m not surprised about the suspension after seeing that.
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I eagerly await Mario’s response on how he’s going to clean up his team.
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