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Who are your favorite hockey writers? (Rink writers excluded...or not, whatever.)

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Justin Bourne.

read my crap at http://somethingsbruin.net or I'll fling milkcrates at you.
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by sarahconnors on Sep 8, 2010 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Great call. His blog gives you a view of the game through a very different set of eyes.

I am a hockey fan first, and a Caps fan second.

by iwearstripes on Sep 8, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

today’s Puck Daddy column was great. “Sometimes you win, sometimes you get traded to Boise.”

Watching the O’s try to use strategy is like watching Mike Green trying to figure out the difference between "your" and "you’re"--Terpgrrl
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by RedBirdie on Sep 8, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could be worse… he could have landed in Toledo, home of one of the dumbest mascots, yet also one of the coolest logos ever.

http://www.toledowalleye.com/

I am a hockey fan first, and a Caps fan second.

by iwearstripes on Sep 8, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

having spent way too much time in Toledo, yes, could be worse! Mr. B actually owns a Walleye shirt, proudly wore it to games last season.

Watching the O’s try to use strategy is like watching Mike Green trying to figure out the difference between "your" and "you’re"--Terpgrrl
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by RedBirdie on Sep 8, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really like Bourne’s stuff that gives an inside look at moving up through the ranks of the major amateur leagues and trying to make it to the NHL. I’m not as impressed with his stuff when he actually tries to talk about the NHL teams and games. It comes off as though he doesn’t watch the NHL much at all and just buys into the old irrelevant cliches and major talking points.

Release the Mackan!

by Killer_Carlson on Sep 9, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Kevin Allen is always a dependable read.

by marks4java on Sep 8, 2010 2:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Cheerless

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Sep 8, 2010 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Seriously, Eric Duhatschek

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Sep 8, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Duhatschek myself. Guy has some of the best sources in the business and it very well informed

A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory

by Rather Bengt on Sep 8, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t care what anyone says, I love Bucci. You guys can go to hell.

I am also a big fan of Justin Bourne.

Also, Ken Campbell is always offering up brilliant articles full of fresh thoughts and ide…hhahahaha…sorry. I couldn’t keep a straight face when saying that.

by Link_Gaetz on Sep 8, 2010 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Bucci is OK, but he’s also a Pittsburgh homer, which it took me a while to realize.

"It's always good to have vikings."

Proud member of the Oxford dictionary police.

by gfcaps fan on Sep 8, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is. But it’s very rare that he puts down any team. It’s sort of like when he “slighted” the Wings by saying that Datsyuk and Zetterberg’s best years were behind them. He then devoted an entire column to all the good things he had said about the Wings after he got an email barrage from Wings fans.

Bucci is a hockey homer. He can be a little over-sentimental, but I love the guy.

by Link_Gaetz on Sep 8, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly, it’s not that big of a deal, but every once in a while it pokes through. Occasionally something he wrote didn’t seem to make sense, and then I discovered he grew up in Ohio. Made sense then. Writing takes all types, and he does manage to bring out some of the nicer human interest stuff.

"It's always good to have vikings."

Proud member of the Oxford dictionary police.

by gfcaps fan on Sep 8, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has more loyalties to the Bruins than any other team, though he is partial to the Pittsburgh region more so than the Penguins team, in my opinion.

SB Nation PIttsburgh

"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."

by Hooks Orpik on Sep 8, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh, he was raised in Ohio and was a Pens fan growing up. I think for a guy like him — not a reporter, but a columnist — those types of allegiances are hard to break.

by RCheli on Sep 8, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Justin Bourne, Earl Sleek, Rudy Kelly, Mr. Plank for entertainment. Alan Ryder for analysis. Hooks Orpik when I need to kill some brain cells.

Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman

by Rob Parker on Sep 8, 2010 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s the equivalent of chugging bleach!

SB Nation PIttsburgh

"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."

by Hooks Orpik on Sep 8, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m convinced that’s how Jordan Staal keeps his hair platinum blonde

It's The Wait for Red October. Except rather than Sean Connery, Alex Baldwin, and Sam Neill, it's George McPhee, Bruce Boudreau, and Alex Ovechkin.
Not Tom Clancy, but Gary Bettman. Not the Soviet Kremlin, but. . .well. . . .yeah, the Soviet Kremlin

by kingzman264 on Sep 8, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m assuming this includes columnists.

Bob McKenzie
James Mirtle
Elliotte Friedman
Helene Elliott

"The most important thing - to get to the playoffs and move on." Evgeny Kuznetsov

by Carl Putnam on Sep 8, 2010 2:55 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Good choices.

Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman

by Rob Parker on Sep 8, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks. I like your Ryder choice. I need to remember to read him more.

"The most important thing - to get to the playoffs and move on." Evgeny Kuznetsov

by Carl Putnam on Sep 8, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seconded on Friedman and McKenzie. And when he wrote hockey, I liked Dryden.

"#DCU is like senior prom. A bunch of people standing around waiting for a 17-year old to score."

by Bald Pollack on Sep 8, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damien Cox

Money don't make my world go round...i'm reaching out to a higher ground

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 8, 2010 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I see your answer and I raise you a Pierre LeBrun.

Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."

Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.

by breaklance on Sep 8, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

LeBrun is alright, but I’d have raised him a Scott Burnside.

"It's always good to have vikings."

Proud member of the Oxford dictionary police.

by gfcaps fan on Sep 8, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll throw out a Don Cherry(as a journalist in the same way news anchors are) and call.

All i got it a pair of 2s.

Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."

Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.

by breaklance on Sep 8, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

You could even throw him in for best baseball writer. Only incredible writers can accuse a player of taking steroids with no real evidence

It's The Wait for Red October. Except rather than Sean Connery, Alex Baldwin, and Sam Neill, it's George McPhee, Bruce Boudreau, and Alex Ovechkin.
Not Tom Clancy, but Gary Bettman. Not the Soviet Kremlin, but. . .well. . . .yeah, the Soviet Kremlin

by kingzman264 on Sep 8, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy F.

"#DCU is like senior prom. A bunch of people standing around waiting for a 17-year old to score."

by Bald Pollack on Sep 8, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

…can’t even describe the sound I just made :P

(And this is what brings you out of hiding??)

If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.

by Becca H on Sep 8, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

To clarify, my explanation is because of the return.

"#DCU is like senior prom. A bunch of people standing around waiting for a 17-year old to score."

by Bald Pollack on Sep 8, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Welcome back.

Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman

by Rob Parker on Sep 8, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

.....

HE’S ALIVE!!!!!!

Money don't make my world go round...i'm reaching out to a higher ground

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 8, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

.

I was thinking along these lines:

"#DCU is like senior prom. A bunch of people standing around waiting for a 17-year old to score."

by Bald Pollack on Sep 8, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Kaiser Soze insta-Rec.

Great. Now I have to change my name to "Jaromir meet Alex".

by Chris meet Alex on Sep 8, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

National holiday? No art exhibits left to see?

"The most important thing - to get to the playoffs and move on." Evgeny Kuznetsov

by Carl Putnam on Sep 8, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy Lurking, Batman…..

by Pi on Sep 8, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

SB Nation – Mr. Plank and DMG. Otherwise, Friedman.

by Chris Burton on Sep 8, 2010 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Elliotte Friedman. Can’t wait for ‘30 Thoughts’ to come back – just a few more weeks!!

If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.

by Becca H on Sep 8, 2010 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Bourne has been enjoyable for his player’s insights and humor.

He’s not a writer, but I like EJ Hradek’s commentary on NHL Live.

Larry Brooks is fun, too.

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Sep 8, 2010 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Hradek is a writer, but I guess you think of him otherwise. I like him on NHL Live, too, but I know a lot of people don’t care for him. I appreciate his approach, but I hate that his content is behind the ESPN pay wall most of the time.

"It's always good to have vikings."

Proud member of the Oxford dictionary police.

by gfcaps fan on Sep 8, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Friedman and McKenzie.

John Carlson - Glory follows him.
Six Beers Too Many Fantasy Team - BizNasty's Hobo Rodeo

by boutros23 on Sep 8, 2010 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Love me some Dirk Hoag from OTF.

by Alex Reed on Sep 8, 2010 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

SBN wise I like the crews at OTF, BSH, C&B, PPP, Gabe at BTN, Travis at FFH and Dominek at Lighthouse Hockey. That being said none of them come close to the six folks that call this place home. Seven if you count Peerless.

"The most important thing - to get to the playoffs and move on." Evgeny Kuznetsov

by Carl Putnam on Sep 8, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t for get Habs Eyes on the Prize. Robert L wrote some epic posts this past postseason (constant complaints about Mike Knuble in the crease notwithstanding).

by Alex Reed on Sep 8, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve been a fan of couple of pieces he’s done and not a fan of some others.

"The most important thing - to get to the playoffs and move on." Evgeny Kuznetsov

by Carl Putnam on Sep 8, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

good call on Dominek. ..i’ve seen him write some epic stuff

It's The Wait for Red October. Except rather than Sean Connery, Alex Baldwin, and Sam Neill, it's George McPhee, Bruce Boudreau, and Alex Ovechkin.
Not Tom Clancy, but Gary Bettman. Not the Soviet Kremlin, but. . .well. . . .yeah, the Soviet Kremlin

by kingzman264 on Sep 8, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree. Lighthouse Hockey is a highly underrated SBN site – guess that’s what happens when you cover the Isles :P

If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.

by Becca H on Sep 8, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Whale4Ever doesn’t get a lot of mentions, but he does some damn good stuff.

"Essentially, all models are wrong, but some are useful" George E.P. Box

by Knee high to a duck on Sep 8, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he works real hard as well. It must be tough to have to cover that team but he’s relentless.

Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman

by Rob Parker on Sep 8, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m ashamed that I overlooked Dom. He’s really great. The guys at BSH do a real good job as well. There are a lot of very good sites on SBN.

Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman

by Rob Parker on Sep 8, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Justin Bourne
Greg Wyshynski
Michael Russo
Elliotte Friedman
Bob McKenzie
Sean McIndoe (a.k.a. Down Goes Brown)

My oddball choice: though he infuriates me sometimes, but I kind of like reading The Chief over at Abel to Yzerman.

by Wheeler on Sep 8, 2010 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

You can actually read A to Z? You are a braver man than I.

When it comes to humor its hard to beat McIndoe.

"The most important thing - to get to the playoffs and move on." Evgeny Kuznetsov

by Carl Putnam on Sep 8, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I enjoy the Chief, because his writing totters between religious fervor and winking, which is nearly pitch-perfect and unmatched, really, in other fan blogs.

The guy who’s been posting over there in his absence (VooX) drives me through the wall, though, because he falls a little too much on the sports-as-religion side. It’s a hard thing to get right.

by Wheeler on Sep 8, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

more than once, I’ve been tempted to hurl my laptop out the window after reading A to Y. Most Caps fans get their stupidity fix reading PensBlog, I apparently feel the need to get it from the founder and President of the Tin Foil Hat Club.

Watching the O’s try to use strategy is like watching Mike Green trying to figure out the difference between "your" and "you’re"--Terpgrrl
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by RedBirdie on Sep 8, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pensblog crew are trying to be funny on purpose. Those loons are actually serious.

"The most important thing - to get to the playoffs and move on." Evgeny Kuznetsov

by Carl Putnam on Sep 8, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pensblog crew are trying to be funny on purpose

News flash — massive fail.

"It's always good to have vikings."

Proud member of the Oxford dictionary police.

by gfcaps fan on Sep 8, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I said ‘trying’.

"The most important thing - to get to the playoffs and move on." Evgeny Kuznetsov

by Carl Putnam on Sep 8, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

DGB is another great call. The first time I stumbled on his blog I laughed for a solid hour.

I am a hockey fan first, and a Caps fan second.

by iwearstripes on Sep 8, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

DGB + Bloge Salming + Pension Plan Puppets = all the inter-division reading i ever need to do

:D oh, and occasionally Four Habs fans. Their Halak’s Journal entries had me ROLLING.

read my crap at http://somethingsbruin.net or I'll fling milkcrates at you.
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by sarahconnors on Sep 8, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a sad fact of life that the damn Leafs have some of the best writers in their blogosphere.

And FHF is hiiiiilarious, holy crap.

If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.

by Becca H on Sep 8, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

there are zero funny bruins fans. I mourn this fact every day.

read my crap at http://somethingsbruin.net or I'll fling milkcrates at you.
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by sarahconnors on Sep 8, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great call on DGB. Occasionally his humor gets a little tired (usually when he overuses a joke) but more often than not he’s hilarious.

Fantasy Teams: Baby Got Backstrom (Ladies of Twitter) and All's Fehr in the Crease (Six Beers Too Many)
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Sep 8, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Though I think making fun of fat people is just.plain.rude, his Wellwood placements always make me laugh.

back to cool special

by bigonetimer on Sep 8, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, another (set) of hockey writers who are really funny and actually don’t reuse jokes in the same way as DGB are the Kurtenbloggers. I love their stuff.

by Wheeler on Sep 8, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks…I’ll have to check that out.

back to cool special

by bigonetimer on Sep 8, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

This comment thread is snarktabulous.

I gotta go with McKenzie and Mirtle. Both of them make sense and are pretty evenhanded.

Fantasy Teams: Baby Got Backstrom (Ladies of Twitter) and All's Fehr in the Crease (Six Beers Too Many)
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Sep 8, 2010 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Kevin Paul Dupont, followed by Friedman.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Sep 8, 2010 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I just threw up in my mouth a little. KPD? really?

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by sarahconnors on Sep 8, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep. I’ve always liked his writing. Over the last couple years, I think he’s slipped, but for a long time, I think he was one of the better hockey writers in the US.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Sep 8, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also see Wilbon, Michael.

"If you want money go to the bank, if you want bread go to the bakery if you want goals go to the net." - #21

by snakegriffin on Sep 8, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

What, no love for Ken Campbell?

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Sep 8, 2010 3:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Link took care of that issue above.

"The most important thing - to get to the playoffs and move on." Evgeny Kuznetsov

by Carl Putnam on Sep 8, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m with you. I like a lot of Ken Campbell, tho I admit occasionally I think he’s on Mars.

Great. Now I have to change my name to "Jaromir meet Alex".

by Chris meet Alex on Sep 8, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t even hate Ken Campbell. Just had to take a shot at someone. I agree with some stuff he says, but when I disagree with him, I REALLY disagree with him.

by Link_Gaetz on Sep 8, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can buy that…

Great. Now I have to change my name to "Jaromir meet Alex".

by Chris meet Alex on Sep 8, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

btw, looking for someone to take a shot at, aim squarely at Larry Brooks, who is a joke, yet often taken seriously.

Great. Now I have to change my name to "Jaromir meet Alex".

by Chris meet Alex on Sep 8, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brooksy is bi-polar. Either he is hilariously ridiculous or he is right on the money. When he’s not in “everyone wants to play for the Rangers because they are the best team ever” mode he actually writes some insightful pieces.

Release the Mackan!

by Killer_Carlson on Sep 9, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ain’t gonna lie: I like Peerless’ style.

back to cool special

by bigonetimer on Sep 8, 2010 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I like your style, Dude.

Great. Now I have to change my name to "Jaromir meet Alex".

by Chris meet Alex on Sep 8, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Oddball favorite – Justin Goldman over at The Goalie Guild. He provides another really interesting perspective on the game.

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by sarahconnors on Sep 8, 2010 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree. I think his breakdowns of the game of a goalie are a great way to gain insight onto the position. Most coaches (Bruce included) could probably learn a bit about dealing with goalies reading his work.

by jblonz on Sep 8, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great choices cited already. I’d add Michael Russo at the Minneapolis Star-Tribune.

For grating entertainment value and the occasional scoop, Larry Brooks at the NYP keeps delivering. He and Torts have a great tag team going.

The ice will show everything.

by cuqui on Sep 8, 2010 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Russo is a stud.

Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman

by Rob Parker on Sep 8, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

New(ish) Capsblogger I want to know more about – Kevin at Jumping the Glass. His stuff is good, it’s different, and (important for the ever-hungry beast that is Clips) – pretty much daily.

You perhaps knew me better as "Your Nation's Capital." Same great commentary, now with 100% more transparency!

by EmilyB on Sep 8, 2010 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

My favorite hockey writer, hands down, is Slava Malamud. He writes mostly in Russian so I either have to wait for Tuvan to wrestle with it or go slumming with Googletranslate, but Slava has a very deft touch with words and ideas.

His wordsmithery best illustrates the fierce poet deep in our Russians’ souls.

You perhaps knew me better as "Your Nation's Capital." Same great commentary, now with 100% more transparency!

by EmilyB on Sep 8, 2010 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Online interviews posted at Hokej.cz

"Inglewood Jack! Inglewood Jack!" - Coach Jules

by Alz Well That Ends Well on Sep 8, 2010 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

The original, or the Dave Fuller translation?

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by sarahconnors on Sep 8, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’re different?

"Inglewood Jack! Inglewood Jack!" - Coach Jules

by Alz Well That Ends Well on Sep 8, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

dickie dunn, of course

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Sep 8, 2010 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Present company excluded, I’ll go with Hockey or Die, Copper N Blue and On The Forecheck.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by fat_daddyo on Sep 8, 2010 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Some major omissions so far

Michael Farber
Allan Muir
Scott Burnside
Pierre Lebrun
Darren Dreger
The Maven

by S h a g g y on Sep 8, 2010 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Well. . .some of those were omitted for obvious reasons. .

It's The Wait for Red October. Except rather than Sean Connery, Alex Baldwin, and Sam Neill, it's George McPhee, Bruce Boudreau, and Alex Ovechkin.
Not Tom Clancy, but Gary Bettman. Not the Soviet Kremlin, but. . .well. . . .yeah, the Soviet Kremlin

by kingzman264 on Sep 8, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed, espn’s coverage of hockey is what you’d expect from a kindergardener.

Case in point, Barry Melrose as TB Lightning coach saying Stamkos will never be a nhl regular. hmmmmmm

Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."

Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.

by breaklance on Sep 8, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Maven? Is this a “worst of” list? The Fucking Maven?

Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman

by Rob Parker on Sep 8, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha… a “worst of” list would be fun. I think The Maven would make the top 5.

"If you want money go to the bank, if you want bread go to the bakery if you want goals go to the net." - #21

by snakegriffin on Sep 9, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m going to go with Earl Sleek at Battle of California. . some of the most creative stuff i’ve seen

It's The Wait for Red October. Except rather than Sean Connery, Alex Baldwin, and Sam Neill, it's George McPhee, Bruce Boudreau, and Alex Ovechkin.
Not Tom Clancy, but Gary Bettman. Not the Soviet Kremlin, but. . .well. . . .yeah, the Soviet Kremlin

by kingzman264 on Sep 8, 2010 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess that was my point ;)

I like Tom Benjamin, our boy Peerless, and McKenzie.

by S h a g g y on Sep 8, 2010 4:31 PM EDT reply actions  

damn. . .i’ve got to get my sarcasm detector ready for this season. .

It's The Wait for Red October. Except rather than Sean Connery, Alex Baldwin, and Sam Neill, it's George McPhee, Bruce Boudreau, and Alex Ovechkin.
Not Tom Clancy, but Gary Bettman. Not the Soviet Kremlin, but. . .well. . . .yeah, the Soviet Kremlin

by kingzman264 on Sep 8, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

JP
Peerless
McKenzie

proud 4th line advocate
ECS Member

by iced on Sep 8, 2010 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

No love for Corey?

I’m not a huge fan, but I thought JP and many others in the commentariat surely are…

He’s a “writer”, but perhaps people are thinking only columnists and not those considered beat writers?

As a beat writer, I would have had TEB on the top of my list.

Great. Now I have to change my name to "Jaromir meet Alex".

by Chris meet Alex on Sep 8, 2010 4:53 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

As for beat writers, I desperately miss “In the Room”. I thought Corey was head-and-shoulders above TEB.

"Essentially, all models are wrong, but some are useful" George E.P. Box

by Knee high to a duck on Sep 8, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

This. Nothing wrong with Tarik, but Corey’s better.

Brian McNally of the Examiner’s pretty good, too.

"It's always good to have vikings."

Proud member of the Oxford dictionary police.

by gfcaps fan on Sep 8, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I agree. As for beat coverage, I’d love to get coverage like Russo (MIN), Malik (FLA), or Hammond (LAK).

Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman

by Rob Parker on Sep 8, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Easy...

Sean McIndoe aka DownGoesBrown.com :)

Washington Capitals 2009-10 = Quebec Nordiques 1994-95
--- D'ohboy

by MikeL-Pivonka on Sep 8, 2010 4:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ll stop and read just about anything written by Friedman, Wyshynski, Mirtle and Down Goes Brown.

Elliotte Friedman’s 30 thoughts are must reads each week. DGB is generally hilarious and I love Wyshynski’s sense of humor at Puck Daddy even if I don’t agree with his view point all the time.
I disagreed with Mirtle’s take on the Ovechkin/Campbell incident last year but I still find most of his columns worth reading.

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by Sombrero Guy on Sep 8, 2010 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Of those not really talked about, I like Pierre LeBrun. He’s very calm in his analysis, and even when he’s on HNIC, he’s able to say his peace without having to act like a clown (as some other on the after-40-minutes section do).

by RCheli on Sep 8, 2010 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

It took me a while to come around on LeBrun, probably in no small part because I always saw him on ESPN. But he’s very good on HNIC and he worked his balls off this summer so I give him a lot of credit.

Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman

by Rob Parker on Sep 8, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tom Awad
Alan Ryder
Gabe Desjardins
Vic Ferrari
JLikens
Sunny Mehta
Sean McIndoe
Bruce McCurdy
Elliotte Friedman
Bob McKenzie
Adam Proteau
Corey Masisak
James Mirtle

"Essentially, all models are wrong, but some are useful" George E.P. Box

by Knee high to a duck on Sep 8, 2010 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Of course you’d have the murderer’s row of statisticians in there.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 8, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha, you knew it was coming.

"Essentially, all models are wrong, but some are useful" George E.P. Box

by Knee high to a duck on Sep 8, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem is, I think most of the statisticians are actually not great writers, even though their ideas are interesting.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Sep 8, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is a problem, most of them can’t write their way out of a paper bag (but I really ought not to cast stones while living in a glass house).

As far as writing artistry goes, Peerless and Proteau are my go-tos. Elliote Friedman is also very clean in his prose, even if it’s not the most evocative thing ever written.

"Essentially, all models are wrong, but some are useful" George E.P. Box

by Knee high to a duck on Sep 8, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve been keeping the local writers out of it so far, but as far as writing artistry I’m putting Pepper right at the top with anyone else you’d care to name.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 8, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only reason I didn’t name Pepper is because I’ve not been mentioning Rink-Writers at all, yeah. All the contributors here have pretty serious writing chops.

"Essentially, all models are wrong, but some are useful" George E.P. Box

by Knee high to a duck on Sep 8, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 8, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I think that most of their ideas are more interesting than they are useful.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 8, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a be-all end-all, stats have a long way to go and I don’t think any of the guys on my list would tell you any differently. The hockey stat community is still in the stage where they’re figuring out basic truths about the game and not even all of those have been uncovered.

"Essentially, all models are wrong, but some are useful" George E.P. Box

by Knee high to a duck on Sep 8, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

My main problem is that a lot of them use the baseball stat revolution as the model and I have a fundamental problem with that because the teams aren’t constructed the same (so replacement player doesn’t mean the same thing in each sport) and played differently (so you have discrete events in baseball but not hockey). As you know, by far my biggest problem with the stat community in hockey is the attempts to quantify “quality” and the faith and confidence the proponents put in those “quality” stats.

Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman

by Rob Parker on Sep 8, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Duhatschek (for sources), McKenzie (not a great writer per se but well informed and very dependable and a must around the trade deadline), McIndoe (for humour), Friedman (very steady and good sources), Bourne (good writer) and here at the Rink DMG (fair minded and always well thought-out pieces, Thanks David)

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by Rather Bengt on Sep 8, 2010 5:21 PM EDT reply actions  

McKenzie is also one of the best people to listen to at draft time.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 8, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a media talking head, he’s great, but his written pieces are too rare and sparse for my tastes.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Sep 8, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don’t look for his written stuff all year, which is why he wasn’t on my list, but in terms of draft he really knows the prospects and in terms of trades he is extremely well-sourced.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 8, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still waiting for Schultz to chime in……

by Pi on Sep 8, 2010 5:30 PM EDT reply actions  

The Peerless, Alan Ryder, and Mirtle.

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by turnituptoeleven on Sep 8, 2010 5:41 PM EDT reply actions  

in that order.

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by turnituptoeleven on Sep 8, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

speaking of Ryder, is his 2009-2010 analysis out yet?

Watching the O’s try to use strategy is like watching Mike Green trying to figure out the difference between "your" and "you’re"--Terpgrrl
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by RedBirdie on Sep 8, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Alan Ryder, does anyone know if he’s going to publish another analysis this season?

"Essentially, all models are wrong, but some are useful" George E.P. Box

by Knee high to a duck on Sep 8, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I assume he will, I just don’t know when. When did he release the last report?

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by Rob Parker on Sep 8, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I couldn’t rightly tell you. I want to say that it was late summer, but I wouldn’t swear to it.

"Essentially, all models are wrong, but some are useful" George E.P. Box

by Knee high to a duck on Sep 8, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was my recollection as well, by I’ve also been off by months on occasion.

Watching the O’s try to use strategy is like watching Mike Green trying to figure out the difference between "your" and "you’re"--Terpgrrl
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by RedBirdie on Sep 8, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eklund. He always seems to know everything before everyone else.

#NeedsMoreBradley

by Addison H. on Sep 8, 2010 6:04 PM EDT reply actions   4 recs

TARIK!!

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by ovechkinmvp on Sep 8, 2010 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Stan Fischler, and that other guy.

If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.

by hotdog88gt on Sep 8, 2010 9:05 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

This gets a rec just for not calling Fischler “The Maven”.

Release the Mackan!

by Killer_Carlson on Sep 9, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

maven – a person who has special knowledge or experience

“Special” is the key word.

If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.

by hotdog88gt on Sep 9, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha, I guess I’ve been wrong about him all along.

Release the Mackan!

by Killer_Carlson on Sep 9, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

The only writer in the hockey universe who calls Henrik Lundqvist “Henny” and Alex Ovechkin “Al”

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Sep 9, 2010 6:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m biased, but I would have to go with the writers of BoC and FTF. Also Gabe of Behind the Net – love his analysis. There are really too many to name.

Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin

by Angy on Sep 9, 2010 12:50 AM EDT reply actions  

As a group, hockey and baseball have the best writers, football and basketball the worst. I don’t include NASCAR writers because their fans can’t read.

Signed,
Effete Snob

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Sep 9, 2010 6:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Having only found JR via Caps Report last season it was immediately clear that this is a whole other level of hockey fandom, . But seriously, how does everybody find time to read all these writers’ columns/articles/blogs? Between job, school, errands, pets, and friends it’s a wonder I make it to most of the home games and catch an away game once a week. After counting 10 sets of initials referring to either writers or sites/publications about which I was clueless, I took the dogs—and my sad-sack hockey fan status—for a long walk in the ignominy obscuring morning fog.*

*self-pity hyperbolized

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by Boggles on Sep 9, 2010 7:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Mike Heika’s one of my favorites. My non-homer pick would have to be the BoC and PPP people. I like a little humor in my hockey reading.

Here's to all us girls who love hockey...and the men who play it.

by Brad_Richards_Rocks on Sep 9, 2010 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Rudy Kelly.

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on Sep 9, 2010 7:50 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

So many to name.

A lot of guys I like you all have already picked, but I gotta go with some West Coast bias here and go with the trio at BoC as well as the guys at FTF.

Don't let the name deceive you, I'm not just a Sharks fan but a Lakers, 49ers, Angels, Giants (and to a lesser extent) Capitals, and Titans fan.

by SharksFanEst.1994 on Sep 9, 2010 9:00 PM EDT reply actions  

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